1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Bryce Harper and welcome to the Philly Show. 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: Hey everybody, welcome to the Philly Show, brought to you 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 2: by Citizens. From making a plan to reaching your goals, 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 2: make sense of your money with Citizens Official Bank of 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: the Phillies. We've got Reuben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury. I'm 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: Todd's a lucky It is Friday, April eleventh, twenty twenty five. 7 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: The Phillies drop two or three this week in Atlanta. Jim, 8 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: last night was along when I know you love talking 9 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: rain delays and the difficulties. 10 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 3: That they. 11 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 4: Can lay on top of a ball rider right here? 12 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 5: Can we talk about your weave right now? Can we 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 5: talk about the weave? 14 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 3: Well, that's a product, that's a product of his late night. 15 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, if you're watching on YouTube, I literally this 16 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 4: is this is uh I got out of. It's a 17 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 4: it's a travel weave. 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 2: This is a definitely travel we've I got my glasses 19 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: on a day late night at the ballpark. 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 3: Where's that old Remember you had that old Minnesota hat 21 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: that crunchdown growth. 22 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, called a napkin like freak. 23 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: Put a napkin on your head you always just wear. 24 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 5: You got to break that out next. 25 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 3: Time travel on travel days and you didn't you didn't 26 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: pack a hat. You knew you were going to have 27 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 3: a tough turnaround. Jim. 28 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 4: Jim shamed me and getting rid of that Gophers cap. 29 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 3: I had. 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: No but it was Yeah, so it was crazy, long 31 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: night guy. I'm in Saint Louis now, thankfully. Uh but 32 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: Billies lose two out of three. They had that two hour, 33 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: forty five minute rain delay, and then they go on 34 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: to extra innings and they just could not knock that 35 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: final runner two home to win that series. 36 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 4: You were watching it late night video. 37 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was doing a pre and post and obviously 38 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 6: waiting it out in the studio was not the most fun. 39 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 6: I mean a lot of things to unpack. Obviously. On 40 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 6: the negative side, they just basically didn't get a hit 41 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 6: after the what fifth or sixth inning? I mean they 42 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 6: literally did not get any hits at all. I mean, oh, 43 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 6: for ten with runners in scoring position. You just can't, 44 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 6: you know, win baseball games against the Atlanta Braves or 45 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 6: any team if you're not picking up a base knock 46 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 6: or two with runners in scoring position. 47 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: That's them. They've done this for years. 48 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 5: YEA. 49 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 7: A couple of situational, a couple of situational. 50 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 5: At bats that were great. 51 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 6: I mean, we ended up having Kylee Schwarber with two 52 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 6: strikes pull a ball on the ground to move this, 53 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 6: you know, the ghost runner to third base, lesson too out. 54 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 6: The same thing with Max Kepler, who's been you know, 55 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 6: swunging the bat well over that the course of that series. 56 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 5: I thought for a. 57 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 6: Few games, for a couple of games, but then you know, 58 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 6: Alec Bohm couldn't come through with a with a. 59 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 5: Sackfly didn't hit one deep enough. 60 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 6: You know, they ended up scoring a run and going ahead, 61 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 6: and then you know, Joe Ross ended up giving up 62 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 6: the the you know, the double and the home run 63 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 6: to lose the ball game. But a couple of really 64 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 6: good things to talk about. Prior to Joe Ross, it 65 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 6: was kind of struggling at the end. He was supposed 66 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 6: to be an emergency guy and he wasn't supposed to 67 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 6: be pitch. The fact that you know, they had about 68 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 6: five innings worth four or five innings worth of excellent pitching, 69 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 6: and you know, Hernandez pitched well. 70 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 5: Strom looked sharper. You know, you saw a lot of 71 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 5: good things. 72 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 6: The best part of yesterday and I think for the 73 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 6: Philly fans, the biggest thing was that Jordan Ramono looked 74 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 6: like Jordan Romano. 75 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 5: He had a ninety seven mile hour fastball that he planned. 76 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 5: I think it was on Olsen. 77 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 6: He went right through their middle of their lineup, Riley 78 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 6: Olsen and I forget the third hitter, but for him 79 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 6: to have gone through that lineup the way he did, 80 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 6: with the sharpness of his slider and the velocity and 81 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 6: control of his fastball, that was a great sign for him. 82 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 6: I think Rob Thompson talked about it afterwards. I think 83 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 6: maybe it was a little bit of rest. 84 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 5: I'm not sure. 85 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,679 Speaker 6: To me, mechanically, he looked better in sync. 86 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 5: He looked like the ball the ball was coming out 87 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 5: of his arm, out of his hand better and more crisp. 88 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 6: And the other part of this is that I just 89 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 6: having watched him, he looked like it was across his body. 90 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 5: More than he had been in the past. 91 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 6: And I think that's creates some deception for the hitter 92 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 6: when he pitches across his body. 93 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. 94 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 5: I'd have to go side by. 95 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 6: Side and take a real good look at his earlier 96 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 6: offerings to see whether or not he was he had 97 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 6: really changed mechanically, but he just looked like the Jordan 98 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 6: Romano that I have seen in Toronto when he was 99 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 6: throwing the ball really well. 100 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: Well before the game, I well before the game, I 101 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: went up to his uh, went up to him in 102 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: his locker and I just said, hey, I just kind 103 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: of want to follow up from Sunday. He said, you 104 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: were going to dig into stuff, dig into some stuff. 105 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: Did you dig anything? And he said, oh yeah. He said, well, 106 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: what do you think it is? Like, I think there's 107 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: I think we found something mechanically that might have been 108 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: affecting me. And he kind of started. He kind of 109 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: just kind of chuckled, said what's so funny? And he said, 110 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: you know, I don't. I don't know what's funny. But 111 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: he's like, I just think we found something. I said, well, 112 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: I guess it's better than digging for something and finding nothing. 113 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,559 Speaker 4: And he goes, right, this is true. 114 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 2: He goes, this is true and he kind of laughed again. 115 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: So he really seemed kind of unconcerned about where he 116 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: was and maybe kind of like reassured that whatever mechanical 117 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: adjustment or flaw that they found, that he'd be able to. 118 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 4: Recapture that velocity, and he was he ninety five to nine. 119 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: Last night he touched ninety six nine, and that's where, 120 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 2: you know, that's where he kind of needs to be. 121 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: He was at what the last two appearances over the 122 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 2: weekend against the Dodge last weekend against the Dodgers, he 123 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: was like ninety three five. He's throwing ninety one once. 124 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's that's definitely encouraging for him for sure. 125 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 3: Very important, very important guy because I mean when you 126 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: look at that bullpen, they're using leverage guys every night 127 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: because they're playing so many close games. And when you're 128 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 3: down a leverage guy in terms of you know, just 129 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: you can't put him at the end of the game 130 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: one and then when you do, he's ineffective. It's it's 131 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: a big problem. So he was the major move in 132 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: that bullpen. They need him to be a major contributor. 133 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 3: So that was a you know, one outing does not 134 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: a turnaround make, but it has to start somewhere, and 135 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: that was definitely encouraging. 136 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 5: Rubin. 137 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 4: You mentioned Alec Bouma. 138 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: Of course, he's like the hot topic this week, and 139 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: so I think we got to dig into Alec bum 140 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: but we're gonna do it right after these words. 141 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: Skrats, Do you like spending an hour on grocery shopping? 142 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: Nope? 143 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 8: Speed up the process please introducing Hungry Root to the ftfan. 144 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 8: Now we can all be boogy with our own personal 145 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 8: shopper to handle the food shopping, including RECs based on 146 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 8: what you're looking to put in your body. 147 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: I stack my Hungry Root box with items like gluten free, 148 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: dairy free blueberry waffles for breakfasts, shrimp vegieboles for lunch, 149 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: and a little filet mignon with potatoes and broccoliini for dinner. 150 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 8: You can also say just hey, Hungry Root, I eat 151 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 8: paleo or I'm vegetarian, and they load up your car 152 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 8: with personalized recommendations. 153 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: And those recks keep evolving as they learn about what 154 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: you're into. 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I'm down 180 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: in in Atlanta on Tuesday and I'm getting all these 181 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: buddies texted me going like, O, what's. 182 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 4: Up without Boom? And you know, Alec Boom this and 183 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 4: Alec Boom maam going something going. 184 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: People riled up about Alec Boum batting one sixty no 185 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: home runs, three RBIs, three fifty six ops. He went 186 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: oh for five on Thursday. He went oh for four 187 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 2: with four strikeouts on Wednesday. He's got four hits in 188 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: his last forty two at bats, eight strikeouts in that stretch. 189 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: He doesn't have an extra base hit since the second 190 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 2: game of the season. I think you know, he strikes 191 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: out in his first step bat on Wednesday, he slams 192 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: his bat into the dirt, into the dirt. He hit 193 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: that hard line out in his first st at bat 194 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: on Thursday. Yes, last night's game, he kind of flips 195 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: his bat into the air, and myself and a couple 196 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: of reporters in Atlanta, we tried to talk to him 197 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 2: about just his start, the good end, the bad, and 198 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: he declined comment before the game, and they need to 199 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 2: climb comment after the game. So clearly this is a 200 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: man who is very, very frustrated. 201 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 4: What do you guys see, Well. 202 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: He clearly it's weighing on him. And I'm surprised because 203 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 3: he had such a good spring, he seemed to be 204 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: in such a good frame of mind. I think what 205 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 3: we're losing sight of here is he has hit a 206 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 3: lot of balls hard, and the stats bear it out. 207 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 3: The metrics bear it out. He's hitt into a lot 208 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 3: of bad luck and then you know, the frustration eats 209 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: him up. You can't let that happen. It's easier said 210 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 3: than done. But my big fear is this, they need 211 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: this guy. He's a good player. They need him in 212 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: the middle of that lineup. He's drive, drove in ninety 213 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 3: seven runs two years in a row, forty four doubles. 214 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: He is a force in that lineup. But if he 215 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 3: beats himself, he can't a force. And it's it feels 216 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 3: like it's just becoming the issue that we didn't want 217 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: it to become, and we didn't think it would become. 218 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 3: I honestly thought he would bounce back for it become 219 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: an issue ever since they benched him, and the benching 220 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 3: in the playoffs brought so much attention to it because 221 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 3: of the timing, because of the you know, the playoffs. 222 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 3: You bench a guy in the playoffs is going to 223 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 3: get noticed. And it just feels like it's it's happened 224 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 3: right before our eyes. It's a test for him he's 225 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 3: got to dig himself out of it. He's got to 226 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 3: focus on the fact that he is squaring balls up, 227 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 3: he is hitting the ball hard, and sometimes it only 228 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 3: takes one to break through. But you know, sometimes that's 229 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: easier said than done. But the thing that bothers me 230 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: a little bit is, like, you know, he almost feels 231 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 3: like a bug under a magnifying glass in the hot sun. 232 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 3: Everybody's just you know, bearing down on him and bearing 233 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 3: down on him. And and I understand it's pro sports 234 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: and it's a very public business and there are ways 235 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: to handle yourself. I just wish you could take a 236 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 3: deep breath, relax, and let that talent take over, because 237 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: he is a talented guy. 238 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's no question about the fact that he's under 239 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 6: a microscope right now, and it's the hot button issue. 240 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 6: I sort of feel bad for him right now in 241 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 6: some ways, just because I agree with you, Jim. He's 242 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 6: hit some balls on the screws last night. I mean, 243 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 6: he hit like two or three balls really really well. 244 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 6: Unfortunately in the one situation he had first and third 245 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 6: late in the game. I was in the tenth or 246 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 6: eleventh inning, you know, he had first and third and 247 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 6: had a chance to drift some some folks in with 248 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 6: the left hander Suarez who was really struggling and he 249 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 6: could not get it done. Should hit a short fly 250 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 6: ball to center field. Yeah, he's definitely the lightning rod. 251 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 6: And in some ways he has sort of put it 252 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 6: on himself a little bit, just because he's shown his 253 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 6: frustration openly pretty consistently over the last I don't know, 254 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 6: a year or so, and and sort of carried over. 255 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 6: And I agree with you. Jimmy came in with a 256 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 6: great attitude in spring training. He was doing really well, 257 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 6: swinging the bat really really well. And I think back 258 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 6: to the times when Charlie Manuel used to say, hey, man, 259 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 6: sometimes you gotta try less. 260 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 5: Sometimes you got to care less, and sometimes you. 261 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 6: Gotta try less because the game can start to eat 262 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 6: at you. 263 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 5: And it's you know, you think about Alec Bohm's career. 264 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 6: The man gets He's a highly touted one of the 265 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 6: best hitters coming out of college in you know, in 266 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 6: the history of the game, I could really really re 267 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 6: rake and never did not have success. And so when 268 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 6: people have success their whole lives basically and don't really 269 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 6: struggle a lot, and it becomes you know, a little 270 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 6: bit of a slap in the face. And when you're 271 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 6: doing it and having a success that he has had 272 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 6: in the major leagues, and now you know there's been. 273 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 5: This hot button issue. 274 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 6: He starts off the season struggling and not really driving 275 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 6: the ball, not really having the kind of success even 276 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 6: though he's hit some balls hard. You know, it becomes 277 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 6: more and more frustrating. I do say this still, I'd 278 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 6: rather have a guy who cares than the guy who 279 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 6: doesn't care, right, And so this guy wants to be good, 280 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 6: and that's an expectation to be good, and that's sort 281 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 6: of a double edged sword, right, you know, it's you know, 282 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 6: you want the guy to really, you know, do his 283 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 6: job and really grind it. But at the same time, 284 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 6: you know, when things aren't going well, you hope that, 285 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 6: as Jim said, you sometimes you just have to reset 286 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 6: and just say, okay, let me just try to play 287 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 6: baseball and have fun with it, because it's a hard 288 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 6: thing to do when you're not having success and you 289 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 6: have a high expect of yourself. 290 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 5: So I think it'll happen. 291 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 6: He's one of the best pure hitters they have on 292 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 6: the team. He's one of the guys that has been 293 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 6: one of the most prolific run producers on the team 294 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 6: over the last two or three years. And he's a 295 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 6: you know, former All Star for a reason. 296 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 5: Guy can hit. 297 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 6: It's just a matter of him having a few drop 298 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 6: in and then you know, kind of loosening things up 299 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 6: and letting it go. I could totally understand why Rob 300 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 6: Thompson dropped him in the lineup. 301 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 5: Sure, try to back him off and just let him 302 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 5: breathe a little bit, let him exhale a little bit. 303 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:42,239 Speaker 5: It does, however, affect how the lineup is now formulated, 304 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 5: because you. 305 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 6: Know, you gotta protect somebody's got to protect him. And 306 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 6: I know Casianos, who had been swinging the bat well, 307 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 6: had a really tough night on Thursday night. Five strikeouts 308 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 6: over five rough day, without question, probably one of. 309 00:15:59,080 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 5: His roughest days. 310 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 6: Don't know if you had any quotes after the game, 311 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 6: but it was probably not a happy place for him. 312 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 5: But I think he'll be back in there. 313 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 6: Again and uh and it'll be back swinging the bat, 314 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 6: hopefully much better, so they can get protection for Harper 315 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 6: in that lineup. 316 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted to make I was gonna say maybe 317 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 3: like the fact that last night was such a late night, 318 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: and it was travel night with the delay and all. 319 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: It probably have a late report, I would imagine. 320 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 6: Oh, I would say, I think they got in what 321 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 6: four in the morning or so, I mean the front 322 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 6: of the hotel, right, they got four in the morning. 323 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 3: Of Saint Louis, have a late report and come in 324 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 3: and get a stretch. And I'm talking about Alec Bahman 325 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 3: and and and just go be Alec Bohm. You're a 326 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 3: natural ballplayer. Go out and let it happen. Don't think 327 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 3: too much. So maybe that'll benefit him a little bit. 328 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Saint Louis is kind of his happy place in 329 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: a lot of ways. He went to games here growing 330 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: up as a kid. And I looked this up Blast Night. 331 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: Sixteen career games at Bush Stadium, including the postseason. He 332 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 2: played two postseason games here. He's betting three forty six, 333 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 2: four doubles, three home runs, nine RBI's one point zero 334 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: one three ops. So he's had some success here. Kind 335 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: of reminds me of when Ryan Howard would come here. 336 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 4: You're just like, Okay, here we go. 337 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 2: Ryan Howard is going to have a big weekend, and 338 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 2: maybe Alec Bohm will have a big weekend here. 339 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 3: Do you enjoy You're you're an enjoyer of Saint Louis as. 340 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 2: Well, right, Yeah, I love Saint Louis. I listen, my 341 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 2: favorite trip in the National League. As a matter of fact, 342 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: No it is not, but uh, it's become a. 343 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 5: Little bit of a ghost town there. 344 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,719 Speaker 4: It's a little bit of a ghost town downtown, very 345 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 4: very sadly. 346 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: They have a little ballpark area kind of like the 347 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 2: Battery in Atlanta, right next to Bush Stadium, which is nice, 348 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: but at night time there's not not a heck of 349 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: a lot going on in downtown Saint Louis. 350 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 5: Sadly. 351 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 3: You got to nowhere to go. You got to go 352 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 3: over to Hodax Fried Chicken and Tuckers for stake. You 353 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 3: got to know where to go to a couple. 354 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 6: There are a couple of barbecue places downtown. I can't 355 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 6: remember one on one or two of them there. 356 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 2: Happy, you guys are gonna have to text me a 357 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 2: couple of these suggestions because I've been striking out big time. 358 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 4: But Jim, I wanted you both. 359 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 2: You guys mentioned Ow Boom, so I wanted to throw 360 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: these numbers out there as well. Alec Bohm has that right, 361 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 2: small sample size and That's another. 362 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 4: Thing you have to remember. Yeah, small sample size. Everybody 363 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 4: who's killing Alec Baum it's uh, you know, frustrated. It's 364 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 4: twelve games into the season. 365 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 3: Games you're killing them because of the winter. Everybody's been 366 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: waiting for this, right Breathe a little bit. Let his 367 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 3: season unfold a little bit, like they did with Castianos 368 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,479 Speaker 3: last year. He struggled for a good bit and then 369 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 3: he got going mid May and he had a heck 370 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 3: of a season from that point on. 371 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 4: You know what. 372 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: Nick Castianos was batting through the team's his first twelve 373 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 2: games last season, one sixty eight four twenty eight ops. 374 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: He was just as bad as Alec Bohm was the 375 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: first two weeks of this season. And Nick Castianos was 376 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: batting one eighty five with a four to eighty five 377 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: ops on May fifth. He was betting one ninety nine 378 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 2: with a five seventy two ops on May twenty eighth, 379 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 2: and Rob Thompson kept sticking with him. 380 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 4: We kept going up to Nick talking about. 381 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 2: How bad he was, and we kept asking Rob why 382 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 2: you don't sit him for a few days clear his head. 383 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: He says, I'm gonna keep throwing this guy out there, 384 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 2: and Nick Castdawles turned around. 385 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 4: He's one of their best hitters the final four months 386 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 4: of the season. 387 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: So it's only been twelve games, everybody, you know, I 388 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 2: think that's important to kind of keep in mind. 389 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 4: Now, Yeah, he's frustrated. 390 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: He's been swinging a lot of first pitches, getting himself 391 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,479 Speaker 2: out early, and a lot of it bats, you know. 392 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 2: But you're right, Jim. I think everybody saw saw what 393 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 2: happened last season. They saw the benching. They know they 394 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: tried to trade him. Now he's off the really bad 395 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 2: start and it's just like open season on the guys. 396 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 2: So I think everybody kind of needs to chill ax. 397 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 9: Yeah, And I think one of the things, one of 398 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 9: the reasons why he's swinging a lot of a lot 399 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 9: of first pitches is because that's what you do when 400 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,479 Speaker 9: you want to get out of the sloping want you 401 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 9: want your overly aggressive at times either become not aggressive 402 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 9: at all. 403 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 5: Or just overly aggressive. 404 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 6: And and you know, he again two outs, nobody with 405 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 6: runners in scoring position. He's been invest in baseball for 406 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 6: like the last couple of years, and you're not seeing 407 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 6: that at him right now. 408 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 5: That's just not him. 409 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 6: His typical approach is a little bit different one, and 410 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 6: that's because he's pressing. And he probably won't admit that 411 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 6: or say it, but it's pretty obvious. 412 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, pressing is a big, bad enemy in baseball. 413 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, he seems he's very frustrated, you can tell. But 414 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: so yeah, we'll see what happened to be Alcahulm. Like 415 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: I said, Saint Louis has been a great place for 416 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 2: him in his career. Maybe this is the weekend where 417 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 2: he kind of gets things turned around and gets going. So, gentlemen, 418 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 2: it's time for money Moves the Citizens. Money Moves are 419 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: brought to you by Citizens for making a plan to 420 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: reaching your goals. Citizens has the personalized advice and tools 421 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 2: to help you make sense of your money. Citizens Official 422 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 2: Bank of the Phillies. Guys, this is where we kind 423 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 2: of talk about something good performance during the week. And 424 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 2: I gotta think the Phillies only won one game in 425 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 2: Atlanta this week and guests who pitched that game, Taiwan Walker. 426 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: Taiwan Walker four and two thirds innings does it again? 427 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: Ten and two thirds scoreless innings this season, Taiwan Walker 428 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 2: has been money for the Phillies. 429 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 4: And you talk about a guy who. 430 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 2: Was fans were waiting just to get on. They were 431 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: getting on before you even threw a pitch. 432 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 5: This sease them. 433 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't believe he didn't release them. Yeah, exactly, 434 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 2: And man is he stepped up and pitched. Well, what 435 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: has impressed you guys about Taiwan Walker? 436 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 3: I really liked the way he got out was a 437 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 3: two bases load of gyms the other night in Atlanta, 438 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 3: I mean, kept his poise just once. Impressed me the 439 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 3: most is that he didn't turtle from a really tough season. 440 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 3: He's come back and he's contributed. I mean I have 441 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 3: questions about the stuff and whether he can sustain this success. 442 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 3: I really do, just to be honest. But the fact 443 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 3: of the matter is he taking them ound twice, kept 444 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 3: his team in the ballgame twice, done a good job, 445 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 3: and he will get another shot on what Monday and 446 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 3: Tuesday night back home against the Giants. So I think 447 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 3: it's been really heartening to see the adjustments he's made 448 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 3: a little more arms, arm strength, a little more velo. 449 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 3: And you know, that's what That's what pro sports are 450 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 3: all about, any sport, you know, picking yourself up one 451 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 3: more time than you get knocked out. He got knocked 452 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 3: down a lot last year. There was a lot of 453 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 3: skepticism whether he could contrie was his team, and I 454 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 3: think it's a great thing for him that he has 455 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 3: so far so rid ride it right to the bank. 456 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 6: If you said before the after the end of the 457 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 6: season last year, he'd come in here and throw ten 458 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 6: to two thirds of scoreless baseball with a zero er, 459 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 6: you would probably say, I call bs. Well, I mean, 460 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 6: you got to give him some credit. I've talked about 461 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 6: this a little bit. You got to give him some 462 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 6: credit for working on some things, getting himself a little 463 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 6: bit more athletic. He could have just hung out, done 464 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 6: nothing about it, and collected his glue, but he decided that, 465 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 6: you know, he's going to do something about it, try 466 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 6: to improve it. And you know, this guy was the 467 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 6: sixth starter or a long man before the season started 468 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 6: at Suarez went headed back issues. You know, if you 469 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 6: were to tell me that he was going to be 470 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 6: able to do this in the first couple of starts, 471 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 6: I mean, that's all you really asked for for a 472 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 6: guy who's like a fifth starter anyway. And I know 473 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 6: it wasn't signed as a fifth starter, but his stuff 474 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 6: is back. But for him to bounce back and to 475 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 6: give the Phillies basically eat some innings and give the 476 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 6: Phillies a chance to win the game. And he's done 477 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 6: that two times now, and two times is better than 478 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 6: zero times, and it does have a long term effect 479 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 6: as you go. I don't disagree with the Jim about 480 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 6: how the sustainability is. But you got Suarez coming, he's 481 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 6: starting to he's starting to rehab, he's throwing the ball. Well, 482 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 6: we'll probably maybe talk about that a little bit too. 483 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 6: And then you know, somewhere down the road Andrew Paynter, 484 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,479 Speaker 6: that's another name that we'll have some discussion about. It 485 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,959 Speaker 6: creates a lot of depth and hopefully that you have 486 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 6: that embarrassment of riches. 487 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 5: When those guys are ready to. 488 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 3: Go, they're gonna need bullpen help. Do you think Taiwan 489 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 3: can contribute out of the bullpen when Ranger gets back, Well, he's. 490 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 5: Done it before. 491 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 6: I don't know how fag he wasn't as a affected 492 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 6: because he didn't have the arm speed, he didn't have 493 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 6: like the stuff that he has. 494 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 5: He's gotta tick better stuff right now, so maybe I 495 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 5: can't rule it out. 496 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 6: And he's he's one of those guys that's he's not 497 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 6: gonna balk at the you know, at the idea that 498 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 6: he's gonna have to be put back there because he's 499 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 6: a team player. 500 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been, he's been. He's been nice. Velo's up, 501 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 4: you know, he's it's been. 502 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 2: It's been a nice early season development, like you said before, 503 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: while Ranger Suarez is on the injured list and coming 504 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: back Ranger Suarez Rubin, as you mentioned, made a rehab 505 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 2: start on Thursday night for Class A clear Water. Pitched 506 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 2: three scoreless sittings. I think it was a four strikeouts. 507 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 2: Vello was pretty solid, so that's good. So, I mean 508 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 2: they feelies haven't told us what the official plan is 509 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: going to be. But he threw three innings last last night. Man, 510 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,239 Speaker 2: he's going to go up to four, then go up 511 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: to five, and then maybe he's ready after that. I mean, 512 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 2: I don't know if he needs to make four rehab 513 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 2: starts down there unless they I don't know how. 514 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 5: I would think, you go three. 515 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 6: Five seven, three five seven, that's my that's my I 516 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 6: think after three. 517 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 4: To jump by jump by two every start. 518 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 6: I think after three, I mean, depending on how he 519 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 6: bounces back from that. 520 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,479 Speaker 5: You know, Yesterday's outing. 521 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 6: I think that they'll progress him fairly quickly, I would 522 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 6: I would think, but a lot of on his overall health. 523 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 3: And if if Walker gives him a couple more good ones, 524 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 3: I think that buys them maybe one start of patience 525 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 3: with with range or just kind of you know, and 526 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 3: make sure start because you know, get as much as 527 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 3: you can out of Walker while he's riding some confidence here. 528 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 6: Now. 529 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 5: The other question is do you consider throwing rangers wars 530 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 5: in the bullpen? 531 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 6: I mean, is it something that we that the Phillies 532 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 6: should consider. 533 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: I think about that all the time. Ruben is is 534 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 3: there an ethical dilemma because he's a free agent? I 535 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 3: know it's unpopular. Fans are gonna say, pitch where they 536 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 3: tell you to pitch, But you know, I'm just I'm wondering, 537 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 3: do you have an obligation because of what he did 538 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 3: for almost three months last year before the back injury 539 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 3: and the hamstring and everything else, the fact that he's, 540 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 3: you know, approaching free agents, he's gonna be a free 541 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 3: agent after the year, is there an obligation to bring 542 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 3: him back as a starter, Because when I look at 543 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 3: this bullpen, I think they're gonna need help, and I 544 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 3: think about it. Maybe Ranger can help them there. Maybe 545 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 3: Ranger should help them there. What is the thing? What 546 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 3: would be the thinking at the front office level if 547 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 3: you were dealing with this. 548 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,479 Speaker 5: I think that you'd have to consider it. 549 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 6: I think you'd bring him back and prepare him as 550 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 6: a starter because you just don't know what's going to 551 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 6: happen with. 552 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 5: Taiwan and how effective he'll be. So you get him 553 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 5: stretched out so he can do that. 554 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 6: You put him in the rotation. You see how effective 555 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 6: he is in the rotation, You. 556 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 5: Slide Taiwan Walker. 557 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 6: If everybody's healthy, you slide time walk Walker back into 558 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 6: whatever role that he was going to play, sort of 559 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 6: the long long man, swingman, spots starter type role that 560 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 6: he had, and kind of go from there and see 561 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 6: how things shake out. As far as the bullpen is concerned, 562 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 6: I mean, he can never have enough arms, and we 563 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 6: know and everyone knows that Ranger has been super effective 564 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 6: in the bullpen. That's maybe an option later on, particularly 565 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 6: when Andrew Painter comes on then and everybody healthy. Of course, 566 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 6: this is assuming everybody stays healthy. 567 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 5: Which never happens. 568 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 6: But it's a great problem to have, and it's as 569 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 6: far as Delima is concerned. I got no problem throwing 570 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 6: Ranger swar if it's best for our team, and that's 571 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 6: the thing that we think is the best to help 572 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 6: this team win the World Series. 573 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 5: Putting Ranger Suarez in the eighth inning or the. 574 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 6: Ninth inning because he's closed and he's got the gumption 575 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 6: to do it, seventh, eighth, whatever the case may be, 576 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 6: maybe not the worst thing. I just don't know that 577 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 6: that's the best thing for the Phillies now. It might 578 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 6: be later, and it might be during playoffs, and it 579 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 6: might be in another time, but it's definitely an option. 580 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 6: But I would prepare him to be a starter for 581 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 6: now because when he's good, he's as good as left 582 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 6: hander as there is in the game. Especially the first 583 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 6: what ten or twelve starts of the season last year, 584 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 6: he was the best pitcher in the game. 585 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I always think back that. 586 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 2: I always think back to our show with Caleb Kaffin 587 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: in the offseason when he was talking about Ranger throwing 588 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: bullpen sessions and now you would like dot twenty five 589 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 2: pitches exactly where he wanted to throw him, and just 590 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: how good he can be when he is on. So 591 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: that I always plays in my mind when I think 592 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: about this, well, I. 593 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 3: Agree with you. I think down the road, but I 594 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 3: think in terms of good faith. You bring it back 595 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 3: to the Star and you can and you see what 596 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 3: he can do over a decent course of time. And 597 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 3: then if Painter comps is putting pressure on people and 598 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 3: the other four guys are dealing, you might be ranger, 599 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 3: might be mid season bullpen upgrade. So maybe these these. 600 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 5: And then we go to a six man rotation. 601 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 7: We've talked about that too, just to protect Painter, protect 602 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 7: the rest of the guys for September and October, because 603 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 7: this team's going to contend, and I mean, I can't 604 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 7: I'm not Nostra Damas. 605 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna you know, say they are could be 606 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 5: on the playoffs. 607 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 6: But they're definitely a team that should be in the 608 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 6: playoffs come September October. 609 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 2: Andrew Painter is making a start tonight Friday night for 610 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 2: Class A Clearwater. He's going to pitch two innings, thirty 611 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: five pitches, So I imagine he'll probably come back next weekend. 612 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 2: You know, they only pitch basically once a week at 613 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 2: that level, and it sounds like they might, you know, 614 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: keep it two innings, ish of the first few times 615 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 2: through and then slowly build them back up. So uh good, 616 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 2: interesting day to day for Andrew Painter. Big day to 617 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: day for Andrew Painter. Finally getting back on the Mountain 618 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: Minor League game, first time in the minor league game 619 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: since September of twenty twenty two. 620 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 4: It's pretty wild it's been that long. 621 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's going to pitch against the Daytona Tortugas. 622 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 10: Oh and tough for those tough for those teams in 623 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 10: the farther state league, with the Ranger Suarez back in 624 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 10: it up, you know, backing it up with Andrew Chan. 625 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 4: Is this what it's going to be like in the 626 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 4: big leagues. 627 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 5: That's what it's going to be like in the big leagues. 628 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 3: The Painters journey towards the big leagues. I look at it, 629 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 3: you know, he had those spring training ramp up slow 630 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 3: and now competitive innings in game situations, sort of in 631 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 3: second gear, and eventually he will be here. I want 632 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 3: to throw something at you, and I don't think I'm 633 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 3: in favor of it for a lot of reasons, but 634 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 3: I get I hear this from people that Painter could 635 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 3: be a bullpen stun gun down the stretch I'm a 636 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 3: I know the Tigers. 637 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 5: Having to be a stunt gun for seven innings then 638 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 5: for one. 639 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: So do I. And this is this thing he's coming 640 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 3: off Tommy John and there's a warm up route, a 641 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 3: warm pregame, warm up routine, and I want to develop 642 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 3: it as a starter. But you look at the Tigers 643 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 3: with Jackson Job. They brought him last years as a reliever. 644 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 3: I'm not in favor of it. I'm just not because 645 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 3: I think there's a kind of an extensive pregame that 646 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 3: a starting pitcher like that has to go through that 647 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 3: you just can't go through in the bullpen. And I 648 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 3: think it would be too risky. But I hear people 649 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 3: talking about it, but I agree. I'd rather I want 650 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 3: this kid to be a starter. 651 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 4: It would be funny, did it. 652 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 6: There's other guys who've done it. But I mean, listen, 653 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 6: I just don't like the idea. You're putting yourself in 654 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 6: a tough pozi for a guy bouncing back from a 655 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 6: serious injury. 656 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they would do it either, but 657 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 3: I hear people talking about it. 658 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd be fun to think about, It'd be fun 659 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 4: to see. It would be fun to see, for sure. 660 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,479 Speaker 2: No doubt late in the season, in the postseason, and 661 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: your painter coming out of the out of the bullpen 662 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 2: eighth inning, big spot. 663 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 4: That would be a lot of fun. 664 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 2: Phillies open a three game series beginning tonight Friday Night 665 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 2: against the Cardinals. It's and Aaron Nola against Andre Polante, 666 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: so Philly trying to bounce back from losing two out 667 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 2: of three in Atlanta. 668 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 6: Gentleman means it's sort of a slang in Spanish. 669 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 5: You know what it means, Balante, go ahead much move forward? 670 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 5: Is that right? 671 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 6: I like that? 672 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 5: All right? 673 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 3: That's what Todd was saying for that game. 674 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 4: That's what I was saying for that game. 675 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 2: I I don't know what you guys do, like Rubin, 676 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 2: what you do in studio. I can't remember what Jim, Jim, 677 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: you go back to the press dining and grab some food. 678 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 4: You just end up eating so much junk food all night. 679 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 5: I had. 680 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 2: I had Crackerjack, which is so overrated, starbursts. 681 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 4: I was eating the hot dogs. 682 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 2: I'm just sitting there trying to entertain myself by like 683 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 2: gorging myself with food. 684 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 4: So I went to bed last night and I felt 685 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 4: so bad. I still don't feel good. 686 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 3: The worst is those early after a late game like that, 687 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 3: is that four point thirty am wake up call. I 688 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 3: wouldn't even go. I would just sit in the chair 689 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 3: in the hotel. And because you get back at like 690 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 3: two in the morning. 691 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what happened to me. 692 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 2: Actually, I had my alarm set for whatever time it 693 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 2: was like six am, to get up to go to 694 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 2: the airport, and my alarm for the flight notification went off, 695 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 2: and I thought that was my alarm. I get up 696 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 2: hopping the shower, and I realized it's only five am. 697 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 4: So I woke up an hour earlier than I needed 698 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 4: to get up another The balls. 699 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 2: As we get, as we get the Saint Louis, so 700 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 2: it can only go. 701 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 4: It can only go up from here, lit guys. 702 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 5: Right, one can only help. And Cardinals they're playing decent baseball. 703 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 3: They're putting the ball in play. 704 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 5: Your last year. It's not gonna be it's gonna be 705 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 5: a challenge. 706 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 4: Well, we'll be back. We'll be back next week. To 707 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 4: wrap it up. 708 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 2: The Philly Show, guys, is brought to you by Citizens. 709 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 2: Make sense of your money with Citizens, Official Bank of 710 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 2: the Phillies. 711 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 4: See you, guys. 712 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 3: Smell lady Boys and Jim