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Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields.

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Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

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Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even

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Speaker 1: in the stratosphere of normalcy. Welcome to the Wednesday of

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Speaker 1: version of One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker here with you

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Speaker 1: as well. Chris Brown is still on vacation and joining

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Speaker 1: me again once again like we did on Monday as

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Speaker 1: Fad Brown from Rochester Television. Thad, how are you doing.

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Speaker 1: It's good to see you again, Thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 1: I you and I just in full disclosure, the first

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Speaker 1: fat half hour of this show may turn into a

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Speaker 1: golf caught topic because you and I played in the

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Speaker 1: same golf team yesterday in this Semetra Tour pro am,

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Speaker 1: and it was kind I've never been involved in an

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Speaker 1: event like I'm I'm certainly I've played in hundreds, maybe

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Speaker 1: of golf events and a lot of pro ams. This

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Speaker 1: was a little bit different because they had like a

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Speaker 1: frontline COVID healthcare worker. They had a corporate sponsor, which

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Speaker 1: is as we all know, is always important to these things.

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Speaker 1: We had a member of the media, which in our

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Speaker 1: case was you, not me, and then we had a

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Speaker 1: celebrity which was me, not you, and then we played

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Speaker 1: which we had never not going to be the case.

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Speaker 1: You are going to be the celebrity in that group

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Speaker 1: every time. Well yeah, we'll get to that in a minute.

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Speaker 1: But then we also had the Symetra Tour player, which

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Speaker 1: was in our case was Bailey Tardy. It was great.

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Speaker 1: She was a She's a good stick. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: and I'm right, so I felt like I played like

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Speaker 1: a fat pig on three legs. I mean, I just

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Speaker 1: I had no idea what was going on. I hit

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Speaker 1: a couple of good shots, but man, oh man, I was.

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Speaker 1: It was smoking hot yesterday and you feel like you

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Speaker 1: needed gills to breathe the air. It was so I

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Speaker 1: mean it was I mean I looked like somebody. I

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Speaker 1: looked like a football coach after they won their first

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Speaker 1: game and they got gatorade dumped over them. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I was sopping wet. It was a hot day. It

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Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. And we got fifth, right,

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Speaker 1: we did. We definitely got fifth. There were only four

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Speaker 1: teams ahead of us. That's exactly how it went down.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, that's the only way we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about it today because there's only all that there

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Speaker 1: were only five teams in the turn. Right. Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 1: sell the fact that there were only five teams and

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Speaker 1: we got our absolute heads caved in by everybody else.

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Speaker 1: Let's be fair now. I will say this, the best

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Speaker 1: play of the day that you had all day long

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Speaker 1: was bringing a change of clothes and being ready to

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Speaker 1: We had the last tea time of the five, so

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Speaker 1: they wanted us all there to kind of hang out

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Speaker 1: and talk to people. Steve was signing autographs like an

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Speaker 1: hour straight, and we had the last tea time. In

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Speaker 1: the hour, we stood around doing nothing. I got obscenely

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Speaker 1: sweaty and uncomfortable. And then we went out and played

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Speaker 1: nine holes in carts. I mean it was you know,

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Speaker 1: we're driving around. It wasn't bad at all. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to around the circles. I want to drive around circles

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Speaker 1: to kick up a breeze, you know. I mean that

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Speaker 1: was only what you hit in your relief. But as

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Speaker 1: that is, And look now, Steve's gonna put down his

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Speaker 1: golf game, folks, I don't know how long how often

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Speaker 1: you've talked about your golf game on this show. I

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Speaker 1: am here to confirm that Steve is absolutely a stick

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Speaker 1: And you know, for for anybody who's ever played in

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Speaker 1: some of these I know some people at home have.

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Speaker 1: When you're on the first team, it's way different than

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Speaker 1: when you're playing with your buddies because there's other people

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Speaker 1: there watching that you don't know. Yeah, not only are

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Speaker 1: you playing in a group of people you never to

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Speaker 1: play golf with before, but there's tournament officials and in

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Speaker 1: my case, people I gotta deal with and cover the

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Speaker 1: you know, Joe Saturday, you know, eighteen hole guy, you

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Speaker 1: least make contact. So Steve, I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: realize this. So we finally we lait all that hour.

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Speaker 1: and you go, now, fat, You're not gonna melt on

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Speaker 1: me right now, Steve, I was already tight as it was.

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Speaker 1: brief and tasker, I can't let him die. It is

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Speaker 1: no joke. That atmosphere is no joke. You hit a

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Speaker 1: good one, You hit a good one. It is. I

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Speaker 1: was very proud of that. It is really really no

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Speaker 1: our We had Susan was in our group. Susan Coonan

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Speaker 1: Sea Comb from Philly. We had Bay and Bailey's used

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Speaker 1: picture this, folks. I mean, you get up there. There's

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Speaker 1: and none of us deserve it. But then it gets

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Speaker 1: And I remember Steve, the other Steve, he gets up there.

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Speaker 1: hand is quivering, right, I mean it is my hand.

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Speaker 1: Oh you just you know, everybody in our group did well.

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Speaker 1: the middle. In fact, he put it through the fairway.

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Speaker 1: still like, you know, I'm one of her four boys. Right,

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Speaker 1: So I pictured my mom sitting on the porch and

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Speaker 1: Because if you get it, if you mess it up,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna show off because it takes the pressure off.

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Speaker 1: You watch me, watch me, watch it like you embrace it, right,

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Speaker 1: But I'm telling you what I've done that where it

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Speaker 1: I remember once didn't it. I've done it in Rochester

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Speaker 1: or two at the very least compete for that second spot.

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Speaker 1: I'd preferred Steve Nelson or Richard Sherman. But yesterday, if

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Speaker 1: you told me the bills we're gonna sign Richard Sherman,

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Speaker 1: I'd think a good move. You know, that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: And now you know, I agree also with you that

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Speaker 1: I think he's probably done, you know, at the age's at.

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Speaker 1: And now, look, one thing where we got to point

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Speaker 1: out here is we're making some fairly sizeable assumptions about

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Speaker 1: the nature and scope of these charges because of the

436
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Speaker 1: denied bail. You know, um added line to this this situation, right,

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Speaker 1: so you know, we'll see where it goes, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, in a month or in a week, we

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Speaker 1: might find out something different. He might be even available

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Speaker 1: this year. But right this second, sitting here, I think

441
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Speaker 1: Richard Truman's career in the NFL's over. Yeah, well, it's

442
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Speaker 1: certainly not going anywhere for the time being. Nobody would

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Speaker 1: touch him with a ten foot poll right now, and

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Speaker 1: this could all be washed away or whatever. Tomorrow it

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Speaker 1: might come out that it was a mistake or whatever.

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Speaker 1: We don't know. But that hit at about eleven ten

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Speaker 1: eleven five, six o eight this morning on the West coast,

448
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Speaker 1: which is just you know, a couple of it just happened.

449
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Speaker 1: It had just happened, um, a couple of hours ago

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Speaker 1: when it came over at eleven p eleven am. Our

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Speaker 1: time was. I do got an update for you here. Um,

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Speaker 1: there's an ESPN story that, uh it says the denying

453
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Speaker 1: bail part of it is actually a standard procedure for

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Speaker 1: the police department in Washington State where it happened for

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Speaker 1: suspects of domestic violence until they can appear before a judge.

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Speaker 1: So maybe the denying bail part is not as serious

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Speaker 1: a thing as you and I both thought it was,

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Speaker 1: you know two minutes ago. That's a yeah, that seems

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Speaker 1: it's a regional or local, normal local loss like that. Yeah, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: So and perhaps it because it happened at the time

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Speaker 1: of day it did, he couldn't get in front of

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Speaker 1: a judge that quickly. Very possible, right, And I get you, okay,

463
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Speaker 1: So that so already we're finding out more that makes

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Speaker 1: it look a little bit less heinous than it appeared

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Speaker 1: at first at first blush. We've also got a fat

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Speaker 1: brown Steve Tasker here on One Bill's Live. We also

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Speaker 1: got some stuff to talk about. We put a poll

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Speaker 1: out today, a Twitter poll that we've talked about how

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Speaker 1: this kind of time of year is really tough to

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Speaker 1: live with for all of us built all us football fans,

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Speaker 1: you know, fans of the NFL, because nothing's going on.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the coaches are on vacation, the players are

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Speaker 1: out of the building, all that stuff. It's all nothing's

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Speaker 1: going on. And so this is the time of year

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Speaker 1: where there's all kinds of rankings and Twitter polls and

476
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Speaker 1: all this kind and we do it all the time too,

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Speaker 1: put out Twitter polls. But it's all about you know,

478
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Speaker 1: what's going to happen, you know, you know, prognostications, you know, well,

479
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 1: we all know the story. So we put this Twitter

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Speaker 1: question out and gave you some choices so we can

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Speaker 1: have a poll today instead of just a question. And

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Speaker 1: the question is this, do you find these summer NFL rankings, polls,

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Speaker 1: rankings or polls interesting or are they irrelevant? Now, certainly

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Speaker 1: for all of us out there, for the teams and

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Speaker 1: the players. Let's just go on record here and get

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Speaker 1: it out of the way. It's irrelevant to those guys.

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Speaker 1: They got a lot of work to do, and there's

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Speaker 1: so much we don't know, and it's not gonna say anything.

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Speaker 1: But for fans who want information, I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about this stuff like you and me and Brown and everybody.

491
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Speaker 1: We want to We talk about it as for a living.

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Speaker 1: So this is you know, it's our bread and butter.

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Speaker 1: You know, I love these polls and rankings, and so

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Speaker 1: we gave them some choices. A you're interested because you

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Speaker 1: love the NFL. B you're interested only when the Bills

496
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Speaker 1: are involved. See you're interested because the Bills aren't involved

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Speaker 1: where you think they should be involved. Or B you're

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Speaker 1: not interested at all. D And right now, D is like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not interested at all, And I get I get,

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Speaker 1: you know, particularly at this time, right in this particular

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Speaker 1: moment in the off season, a lot of people aren't

502
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Speaker 1: interested in Some of that has to do with what

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, the NBA playoffs, the hockey season that

504
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Speaker 1: just wound up with a champion, the euro Cup that

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Speaker 1: just wound up with Italy as their champion, the Copa Cup,

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Speaker 1: you know, the all the soccer stuff that's going on

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Speaker 1: around the world. Golf, the PGA's going on with and

508
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: this is the week the Open weekend in the British

509
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Speaker 1: Open weekend, this coming up this weekend. It starts tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: So all of this other sports stuff is going on,

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Speaker 1: and kind of the NFL is like, you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't really care who they think the best. You know,

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Speaker 1: offensive improvements have happened over there, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: all these polls that we dream up. So I get that,

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Speaker 1: and I'm kind of with them because when I when

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Speaker 1: I get out of this chair, I'm I'm watching golf

517
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Speaker 1: and I'm watching in the NBA playoffs. You know, I

518
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: don't and you laugh, but I don't watch any Major

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Speaker 1: League baseball, including the All Star Game. By the way,

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Speaker 1: what's the difference between the All Star Game and the

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Speaker 1: Home run derby? What is there a difference? There are

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Speaker 1: outs and balls that are not home runs are played,

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Speaker 1: But I wouldn't different baseball thing, don't. I don't. I

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Speaker 1: have not watched a full baseball game start to finish

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Speaker 1: in ten years. Maybe there's anybody else, Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: in my job. You know, I'm the sports anchor here

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Speaker 1: at you know, w LC and Rochester and you know

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00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: I cover baseball games. But to sit there and actually

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Speaker 1: watch a full game, you know, it just doesn't feel

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Speaker 1: like to me a good use of my time. Now.

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Speaker 1: Do I sit in my office with a game on

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Speaker 1: in the background while I'm doing something else? Sure, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that counts is actually watching a game,

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Speaker 1: you know. But going back to the poll, you know,

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Speaker 1: I kind of I see both sides, like I'm I

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Speaker 1: know that the polls are irrelevant, but I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I find them super interesting. And for me, I like

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Speaker 1: the idea of there have been thirty two teams that

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Speaker 1: have done any number of things between the end of

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Speaker 1: last January and now, and you know what a team

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Speaker 1: looks like on paper, how it all puts together. I'm

542
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: not gonna sit here and tell you that I have

543
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,239
Speaker 1: a handle on what the Panthers defensive backfield situation looks like. Right,

544
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: And to have these polls and to think, wow, you know,

545
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: here's a group of teams that, you know, if you

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Speaker 1: want to talk about who the best corner group in

547
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Speaker 1: the NFL is all of a sudden a team like

548
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Speaker 1: the Chargers pop up and you're thinking, wow, oh yeah,

549
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Speaker 1: they got this guy and this guy. So for me,

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Speaker 1: you know, I like the fact that I kind of

551
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Speaker 1: get the review, what people are looking at, what's hot,

552
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: what's interesting, what might be good this year, And to

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Speaker 1: to you know, see them all put together, where the

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00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: Bills rank and all that. I find it extremely fascinating. So,

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00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: although I know it's totally irrelevant, I'm as hooked down

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Speaker 1: him as anybody else's. And and you'll get me put

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Speaker 1: a list or a poll up, I'm almost certainly clicking

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Speaker 1: on it. Here's the thing. Yeah, I'm on the I'm

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00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: on the payroll here in the building, right, I'm It's

560
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 1: like I take a little ownership, even though I haven't

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Speaker 1: played it down in like twenty five years. Whatever. You

562
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: take some ownership as a Bills fan. It's your family, right, So,

563
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: and if you know somebody outside the family's talking about

564
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: your family, you want to know what they're saying. I

565
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: mean you, you're not letting that slide, right. And Bill's

566
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: fans are notorious. I mean they are. They'll crush you

567
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: on your timeline if you they are the fan base.

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Speaker 1: They are the fan base. Not to poke a stick

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Speaker 1: at right, um ask depending depending what your goals are, right,

570
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: maybe they're a fan base too, pokus stick at right? Yeah,

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00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: and you know ask Nick Wright? Um, I mean how

572
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: bad fans you know, will they'll rise up? But and

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Speaker 1: also too, And I always crushed baseball and it's it's

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Speaker 1: in good fun that I do. I know, it's a

575
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: you know, those guys are great, it's a great sport

576
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Speaker 1: and everything. But I crushed baseball all the time. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know how anybody watches an entire game though.

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00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: It's I mean, some of those things take hours to finish.

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Speaker 1: And who's you know? You you drop back in on it.

580
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: You can't watch it start to finish. I don't know.

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00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: I mean not very many people can. Um not some dude,

582
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: I get it, but man, oh man, it's rough. So

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Speaker 1: that's why I'm we got into that baseball thing. I

584
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: don't want to crush baseball, so I want to I

585
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: will backpedal a little bit. I took a pot shot

586
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: at the All Star Game last night. But anyway, the

587
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: thing about these polls are if you're if you got

588
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: somebody talking about your team, you want to hear what

589
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: they're saying, and I think most fans are like that,

590
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: whether it's irrelevant or not. And Bills fans are pretty

591
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: sensitive given what's happened to the club and the development

592
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: of this team over the last four years during the

593
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott era. The you know, the second year was

594
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: a down year of six and ten year, but the

595
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: first year they broke the drought and went to the playoffs.

596
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: Third year they went back to the playoffs, and now

597
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: they went to the AFC Championship Game last year, and

598
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 1: of course the expectations are through the roof. So the

599
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: Bills fans who have lived through the rest of the

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00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: football world starting to come around and saying, okay, they're

601
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: pretty good, you know, kind of begrudgingly saying, yeah, okay,

602
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: the Bills have got their guy, Josh Allens. Okay. You know,

603
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: even his critics are like going, okay, you had a

604
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 1: good year last year. Now that all they can say is,

605
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: I'll Betty can't do it again. Right, So we get

606
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: to that point and I think you gotta take some

607
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: interest in what people are saying about your team in

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Speaker 1: all these preseason polls and rankings, Right, I think it's

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Speaker 1: I think it's more than that, especially if you're a

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Speaker 1: Bills fan and just like you laid out all the

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00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: down years Bills fans had to go through. The interest

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00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: isn't just to see what people are saying. It's the

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00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: revel and the fact that what people are saying is

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00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 1: almost always good now, and I mean, in some cases

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00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: really really good, and that's fun. I mean to me,

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Speaker 1: that's that's part of being a fan, you know, like

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00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: as a Sixers fan, just coming off this last NBA

618
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: season didn't end the way I wanted it to, but

619
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: when they were first in the conference and Joe all

620
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: Embiad's playing at an MVP level, it's fun to read

621
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: people say good things about your team on the Internet.

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00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: I get that. I understand that. And if you're a

623
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: Bills fan, you know, reading these lists has never been

624
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: this good. Maybe the last time the Bills were this good,

625
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: there weren't lists like this because the Internet didn't basically exist.

626
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: So to do this for the first time ever, essentially

627
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: in Bills fan history, I totally understand and endorse all

628
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: the interests. I mean, I actually surprised that our pole.

629
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: If you can bind the first two answers I think

630
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: is fair, is basically still fifty fifty over. You know,

631
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 1: are they interesting or are they irrelevant? Maybe interesting might

632
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: not be the best word to use in this situation.

633
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: But if you're a Bills fan and you're reveling, and

634
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: I think that's absolutely inappropriate word, more power through you

635
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: enjoy it, you deserve it. Absolutely. Steve task along with

636
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: Thad Brown here till three o'clock today, we're gonna be

637
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: at the top of the hour, we're gonna have Mike

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Speaker 1: Clay And for those of you who are fantasy players,

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Speaker 1: he's an ESPN fantasy analysts. He's also the managing editor

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Speaker 1: of Pro Football Focus, their fantasy work that they do.

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Speaker 1: He's a contributor to NBC's NBC's roto World Athlon Sports,

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Speaker 1: also the Philadelphia Eagles dot com. He contributes there to

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Speaker 1: Mike Clay ESPN coming up at the top of the hour,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker Thad Brown lots more to talk about over

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Speaker 1: the course of this afternoon. You can chime in if

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Speaker 1: you want at eight oh three oh five fifty or

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Speaker 1: one eight to eight five fifty two five fifty will

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Speaker 1: call in and get in on the conversation Thad Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker along with Thad Brown, here with you for

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Speaker 1: the next two and a half hours, I suppose. And

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Speaker 1: at the top of the hour, we've got Mike Clay

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Speaker 1: coming on with us too, you know, talk about fantasy stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I've said he used to be with do a

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Speaker 1: little work for Roto Rohto World Sports. Doesn't do that

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Speaker 1: so much anymore. He contributes to NBC, ESPN, NFL Live,

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Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Now the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Um. He's

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Speaker 1: ESPN's NFL analysts and fantasy football writer. That's Mike Clay

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Speaker 1: coming up at the top of the hour. One of

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Speaker 1: the things that's happening too, we have this poll going

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Speaker 1: on about um, you know, these offseason polls and rankings,

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Speaker 1: you know, for the teams coming up, and it's a

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Speaker 1: little prognostication, but also one of the things, and one

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Speaker 1: of the things that makes it interesting, as you said

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Speaker 1: that for Bills fans, is the fact that the Bills

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Speaker 1: are involved in all the top the top rankings of

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Speaker 1: the of the league. You know, you gotta got a

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Speaker 1: quarterback that's up there. You gotta passing game this up there,

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Speaker 1: you gotta receiving cord of this up there. You know

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Speaker 1: all these things that are you know that that they

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Speaker 1: quantify h with, you know, forecasting how good an offense

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Speaker 1: or whatever your team's gonna be, expectations. The Bills are

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Speaker 1: at the top of a lot of these pills, and

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Speaker 1: that makes it fun. Now. One of the offshoots of

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Speaker 1: that is the Bills quarterback coming to the end of

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Speaker 1: his rookie deal and now they're starting to talk about, Okay,

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Speaker 1: when is Josh Allen gonna get extended. We've just seen

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Speaker 1: a bunch of examples of quarterbacks who who how this

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Speaker 1: process went kind of good and kind of sideways. And

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, the Dak Prescott thing went sideways.

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Speaker 1: They got him signed. Finally, Kirk Cousins maxed his monetary

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Speaker 1: potential out with a couple of m couple of franchise

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Speaker 1: tags in Washington before hitting a home run deal with

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings, where he has been m nothing if

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Speaker 1: not mediocre for the for the Vikings, after hitting a

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Speaker 1: home run financially, now they're you know, and so all

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Speaker 1: these and the Mahomes deal, the Deshaun Watson deal, the

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott deal, you can get down the list. Now, Josh,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be Josh's turn, and it would seemingly be

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Speaker 1: with with you know, Baker Mayfield standing there, Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: having just signed his deal, with Sam Darnold going down

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Speaker 1: to Carolina. You know, all these quarterbacks are in line.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson there, they've got to be talking to him

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Speaker 1: about his extension. So when's gonna be when's Josh? What's

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Speaker 1: your gut tell you about Josh's situation. It feels like

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be soon, you know. I just remember the

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Speaker 1: Bills not too long ago restructures to find Diggs's contract

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Speaker 1: to create extra kaprom this year, and they still have

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Speaker 1: not spent that money. And to me, you don't make

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Speaker 1: that restructure move unless you had some sort of plan

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Speaker 1: for what you're gonna do with it. Now, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe the Bills will go out and sign a corner

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Speaker 1: like Steve Nelson, the zach Ertz trade, which is now

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Speaker 1: the rumor that cried Wolf, you know, could return again,

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Speaker 1: and that could be a thing. But you know, Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen signing an extension could also be you know, one

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Speaker 1: potential use of that money and the one there are

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Speaker 1: two things about this that I feel pretty confident are

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. Number One, Josh Allen's gonna sign a contract.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to hamstring the bills. You know, this

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Speaker 1: is a guy that has shown over and over and

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Speaker 1: over how much he likes playing for this team, for

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Speaker 1: this franchise in this city, and how much he wants

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Speaker 1: it to win a championship and to break the bank

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Speaker 1: and to just use every squeeze, every available dollar a

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Speaker 1: cap room out of the bills. And this extension does

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Speaker 1: not jive with all those other things we just talked

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Speaker 1: about with Josh Allen. You know, he's a he's a

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Speaker 1: student of Sean McDermott. He's a one eleventh guy. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna, you know, do his job and play his part,

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Speaker 1: even if that means off the field signing a track.

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Speaker 1: But in addition, by the same token, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think Josh Allen's gonna be respectful of what the NFLPA

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Speaker 1: needs and not be a guy that takes such an

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Speaker 1: undermarket deal that it hurts other players around the league,

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, Lamar Jackson, whoever it will be. So I

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Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, Josh Allen's gonna

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Speaker 1: sign something that's gonna be fair to the Bills, fair

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Speaker 1: to the NFLPA, fair to himself, and I think everyone's

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Speaker 1: gonna come out of this happy. The question is windmill

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Speaker 1: because if he signs now, you know you're gonna base

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Speaker 1: it on probably Deshaun somewhere between the Shawn Watson and

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. Well, if you wait a while or you

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Speaker 1: signed an next offseason and Lamar Jackson and Baker Mayfield signed,

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Speaker 1: they may reset the market in a way where Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen in order to be respectful the NFLPA has to

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Speaker 1: take a little more, you know than maybe he could

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Speaker 1: have right now. So I think it does generally behoove

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Speaker 1: the Bills to get this done sooner than later. It

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Speaker 1: just has a like it's something that might get done

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Speaker 1: before the start of the season. I think once we

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Speaker 1: get into the season, it feels like it'd be hard

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Speaker 1: for the Bills to want to, you know, have a

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Speaker 1: contract negotiation interrupting their quarterbacks preparation for you know, whatever

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Speaker 1: game is coming up. But there's still plenty of time

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Speaker 1: between now and September twelve to get this done. And

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Speaker 1: you know, my gut is that it does happen in

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Speaker 1: that period of time. So you think it's gonna happen

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Speaker 1: before this regular season kicks off. I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: got to put me down for a gut for you, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, i'd say it's sixty forty. But yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: what I think it's gonna happen. I'm kind of with

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Speaker 1: you on that. I think it's gonna happen this offseason

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Speaker 1: because the Bills know it's because they've seen the guy,

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Speaker 1: and they look at the guy, they watch him, they

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Speaker 1: know him, and this coaching staff will tell ownership and

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Speaker 1: Brandon Bean. If Brandon Bean doesn't already know it and

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Speaker 1: see it for himself, they'll say, listen, this guy's not

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Speaker 1: going anywhere but up. You know, I mean, he if

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Speaker 1: that's the case, do it now because it's gonna get

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Speaker 1: more expensive. And I say this too, there's no reason

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Speaker 1: that any of us would expect or feel it. It's

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's duty to take a discount to stay in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: But I will say this, I do think while he'll

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Speaker 1: get a big chunk of cash, and he may set

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Speaker 1: them marketing who I don't know, he may set the

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Speaker 1: market again. But I will say this, the Pat Mahomes

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Speaker 1: deal did something for NFL teams that I think really

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Speaker 1: kind of expanded the envelope for what's possible in that

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Speaker 1: a quarterback can make a ton of cash, but they

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Speaker 1: can structure it in such a way with length and

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Speaker 1: whatever and guarantees and whatever bonuses. There's enough flexibility in

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Speaker 1: the NFL salary cap system so as to give the

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Speaker 1: team a chance to be competitive even if they've got

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Speaker 1: a quarterback making top dollar. I think, I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: I wonder, go ahead if Josh Allen signs a similar contract,

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Speaker 1: and it wouldn't stun me. You know, my prediction would

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Speaker 1: be something more in the five to six year range

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Speaker 1: than it would be a ten year contract. But you

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Speaker 1: do wonder if that does become a norm for look

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Speaker 1: locked in franchise quarterbacks. And to be fair, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I agree with what you're saying that the coaches

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Speaker 1: go to ownership and say this guy's only going to

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Speaker 1: get better. There's every reason to believe that's true, because

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Speaker 1: whatever Josh Allen's done on the field, off the field,

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Speaker 1: he's been one hundred percent as good as it can

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Speaker 1: be from pretty much the day walk into the door.

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Speaker 1: But on paper, Josh Allen right now is still a

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Speaker 1: one year elite quarterback. And the world of football is

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Speaker 1: replete with guys who are great for one year and

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Speaker 1: then never again. Matt Ryan comes to mind. So it's

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Speaker 1: not like the Bills have zero risk in signing, you know,

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Speaker 1: early or as soon as possible. But everything, all the intangibles,

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Speaker 1: all the off the radar stuff, from what we can tell,

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Speaker 1: seems indicate a guy that's worth a ten year contract.

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Speaker 1: And you're right, it does give teams more flexibility than

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Speaker 1: certainly what Kirk Cousins signed in Minnesota. So this may be,

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Speaker 1: you know, Pat Mahomes is the pioneer and Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: might be the contract that solidifies this is what you

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Speaker 1: do with a guy who you know, you know, and

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson would be next. I don't know if Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield falls in that category, but I could easily see

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Speaker 1: justin Herbert Trevor Lawrence, if he is what we think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be, all signing these six to eight to

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Speaker 1: ten year deals to where Yeah, the QB cash is

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Speaker 1: in big time, but there's flexibility for the team options

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Speaker 1: down the road. Things you can do with a contract.

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Speaker 1: They don't just kill you going forward, right, But I

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Speaker 1: think that flexibility does come from a longer term deal.

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Speaker 1: And even so, exactly like the Mahomes deal, they could

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Speaker 1: sign Josh Allen to a big contract with an enormous

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Speaker 1: percentage guaranteed or at least an enormous number guaranteed, so

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Speaker 1: he knows he's taken care of, but they could forego

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Speaker 1: the start of that contract until after his rookie deal

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Speaker 1: is up. It's because even if he gets the guaranteed

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Speaker 1: fifth year of his rookie deal is twenty three million dollars.

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Speaker 1: And this just in Folkes, twenty three million bucks for

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen is a bargain in today's market. So if

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Speaker 1: they can get him to say, listen, play out your

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Speaker 1: rookie deal and then when it's over, this deal kicks in,

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Speaker 1: but you get a chunk of money, now, that is

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Speaker 1: still a win win as well. So that's all on

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Speaker 1: the table too. And I would I wouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 1: if they asked him to do that, like and I

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Speaker 1: because I think that's what the Chiefs did with Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: His money doesn't kick in until twenty twenty three, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, right, But you can you can easily,

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Speaker 1: You easily signed Josh and you can givehim Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: what forty million dollars signing bonus right now? That'd be

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Speaker 1: a check that the Pagoulas would scratch right to him

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Speaker 1: right this second. If you sign it over the course

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Speaker 1: of a four year or a ten year deal, it's

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Speaker 1: only a four million dollar capit this year. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's next to nothing, well within the Stefan Diggs restructure

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Speaker 1: we talked about before, and certainly you know, unbelievably affordable

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Speaker 1: for a quarterback that was almost an MVP last year.

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Speaker 1: So there's any number of ways, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: the way the contract will look. It'll be a big

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Speaker 1: signing bonus now a lot of years spread the bonus over.

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Speaker 1: Josh in terms of actual money, gets the bonus now

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Speaker 1: on top of whatever his annual salary would be this year,

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Speaker 1: plus like you said, the fifth year options. Then you

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Speaker 1: go into twenty twenty three when he's finally putting up

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Speaker 1: the big thirty five forty million dollars Cappit allows the

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Speaker 1: Bills to have two more years essentially finger quotes on

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Speaker 1: a rookie contract before really the quarterback gets going something bigger,

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Speaker 1: and then maybe by then it's not that much of

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Speaker 1: a percentage of the salary cap to where it really

851
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: hamstrings you. That's THEWS A lot of numbers people might

852
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: have glazed over in that. I tend to get, you know,

853
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: going all that stuff sometimes with these contracts, I enjoy it.

854
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: But that's where the Bills could go, right that's exactly

855
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: right after the coming up at the top of that,

856
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break here. We've got some more

857
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: stuff coming at yet two in an a little over

858
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: an now, we're gonna have Mike clayon from ESPN to

859
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 1: talk some fantasy stuff and some league wide stuff. We've

860
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: also got something that I think most Bills fans are

861
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: kind of it's on their radar. It's a give Give

862
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: seven one six day, Give seven one six dot Org

863
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: is coming on. It's gonna start tomorrow afternoon at seven

864
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: sixteen pm. And for a Bills, for a fan base

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00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: like the Bills have in the Bills Mafia and the

866
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: generosity they've displayed over the course of the last few years.

867
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Speaker 1: We've got a lot to talk about with Bills Fans,

868
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: Lots more coming up. Steve Tasker, Sad Brown here on

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live, presented by Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo

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00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: Bills Radio Buffalo. We're the city of good neighbors. You

871
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: know you guys have been through a lot this year.

872
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: We feel you. So it's time we come together and

873
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: celebrate this community. On July sixteenth, we're asking for your

874
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: support to help those who help others on Give seven

875
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: one sixth day. Our goal is to unite Bills and

876
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: Sabers fans and an epic day of giving for Western

877
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: New York nonprofits. We need you Bills Mafia. Hey, hey,

878
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: we need you Sabers fans. Let's go Buffalo. Let's go Buffalo.

879
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: Let's do this together. Let's go Buffalo. Let's go Buffalo

880
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: and do what you do best. Launching this Thursday at

881
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: seven sixteen pm, that's tomorrow night at seven sixteen pm,

882
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: Give seven one six will unite Bills and Sabers fans

883
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: in an epic day of giving. The program will raise

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00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: funds and awareness for nonprofits who on profits who do

885
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: amazing work throughout Western New York. It's the perfect opportunity

886
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: to discover causes you're passionate about and to help support

887
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 1: local organizations with the funding they need to continue making

888
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: our community a better place. You can donate from July

889
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: fifteenth at seven sixteen pm through July sixteenth at eleven

890
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: fifty nine pm, so it's that twenty four hours plus

891
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: starting at seven sixteen tomorrow night, all the way through

892
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: midnight the next night on seven sixteen plus. The first

893
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: two thousand people who donate at least seventy one dollars

894
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: and sixty cents or more will receive a complimentary T

895
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: shirt as a gift. Visits give seven one six dot org.

896
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: Give seven one six dot org for more information. I'll

897
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: be wearing one of the T shirts tomorrow on the air.

898
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 1: And for a fan base that has gotten its share

899
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: of notoriety for being generous, I think the Bills and

900
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: Sabers coming together and doing it. It's a smart idea

901
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: that you know, you think all the way back to

902
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: the you know, to the Andy Dalton Tyler Boyd thing

903
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen's grandmother and you know, fans given to

904
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's backpack thing after he banged his head in

905
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: the playoff game. This is a fan base that takes

906
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: pride in being generous. And this on seven one six day,

907
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: the area code of the of the region and you

908
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: know July sixteenth being that on the calendar, and putting

909
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: the Sabers and the Bills together in this plus there's

910
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: four hundred different nonprofits involved in this and high Mark,

911
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 1: Blue Cross, Blue Shield of Western New York, Key Bank,

912
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: David Adams, Card World, Hunt Real Estate and Hunt Mortgage,

913
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: m ANDT Bank, Wegman's Most Southwest West Grill, Rachel's Mediterranean,

914
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: Total Sports Enterprises, Bills, and the Sabers Foundations. You know, Emmon,

915
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: you know they're all gonna be hosting these power hours.

916
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: And what that means is this, folks, if you want

917
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: to maximize your money some of these companies that I

918
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: just mentioned, M and T and all of that, when

919
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: they have their power our going on, if you donate

920
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: during that, they'll match it up to like twenty five

921
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: grand for one of fifteen grand for another, so you

922
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: can double your donation for that. And so it's I

923
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: think it's a great idea. Certainly, it gives people a

924
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: chance to pick something that they're passionate about and you

925
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: can make it specifically to one of those nonprofits, or

926
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: you can just give in general to seven one six

927
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: dot organ and they'll spread that money around as well,

928
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: so it all goes to nonprofits here in the region.

929
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: I think it's a great idea. I think the Bills

930
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: and say, I gotta take my hat off to them.

931
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: I don't remember this ever, anything like this ever going on.

932
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: I mean, certainly the Bills, and I've been involved with

933
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: countless bills fundraisers, golf fundraiser like we've been talking like

934
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: we did yesterday, stuff like that, banquets, auctions, all of

935
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: that stuff we've all been a part of. But to

936
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 1: have two organizations, Bills and Sabers do this online throughout

937
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: the entire region, with all of these companies jumping on board,

938
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: it's going to be It's really awesome. It's really awesome,

939
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: and I gotta tip my hat to the whole both organizations.

940
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: The thing that that blows me away is, and you

941
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: mentioned it, the number of charities that will benefit from this.

942
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: Over four hundred and thirty one, I think is the

943
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: exact number. And they're the variety of charities. I mean,

944
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: it is you know, it is not just you know,

945
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: maybe the typical things you might think of it is,

946
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: you know, like youth teams. You know, if there's a

947
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: youth league out there that you know might need a

948
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: benefit for uniforms or you know, for fields or something

949
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: that's part of the animal shelters. I mean, the variety

950
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: of charities that will benefit from this effort, you know

951
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: does Uh. It's certainly eye opening, and I'm impressed with

952
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: the way. You know, I'm reminded a lot that fan

953
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: is short for fanatic, you know, which just means that,

954
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of sports fans are just bananas

955
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: crazy in one direction or another. And for Buffalo and

956
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: Western New York, to kind of harness that part of

957
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: bills fanship and sabers fanship and push it towards a

958
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: good outcome, a good cause in so many, you know,

959
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: so many different times has been one of the better

960
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: trends of the last three years. And this is just

961
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,959
Speaker 1: another opportunity to kind of harness into one lightning bolt

962
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: and try and you know, put it into one fun day.

963
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm glad that you didn't end up

964
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: with five A fives. I don't know what they they

965
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: do this, you know, as an area code. So that

966
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: worked out well perfect. But it's been impressive. And Steve,

967
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, you know, from like you said,

968
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: for someone who's been involved in this for literally decades,

969
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: is it different now that it was when you played?

970
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: Because to me, it feels different because of the notoriety

971
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: of it, because of the viralness of you know, the

972
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: Josh Hallend donations and the Andy Dalton donations. That doesn't

973
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: mean that, you know, you and Bruce Smith and Jim

974
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: Kelley and Therma Thomas didn't contribute in the same way,

975
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: but in terms of getting the fans all hyped up

976
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: in one direction this way, how much different is it

977
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: now than it was when you played? It seems let

978
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 1: me just use a big word, it seems more ubiquitous.

979
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: Everybody's involved, you know, I mean you everywhere you go

980
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: there are and Bills fans, bless their heart. That thing

981
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: that happened when it first began. The first time I

982
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: remember is when Andy Dalton and Tyler Boyd connected on

983
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: a fourth and twelve and the ball goes over the

984
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: end zone in late against the Baltimore Ravens to Cincinnati

985
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: Bengals win, and that put the Buffalo Bills in the playoffs,

986
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: and we've all seen the video of the Bills in

987
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 1: there the Miami locker room after they won that game

988
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: and then needed some help and Cincinnati gave it to them,

989
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:34,959
Speaker 1: and Bills fans donated like up to like a half

990
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: a million bucks over all told, over the course of

991
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: the next few months to Andy Dalton in seventeen dollar

992
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: increments from the seventeen years of the drought they and

993
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd benefited from his foundation. And then last year

994
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: when Lamar Jackson went got his head banged and got

995
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: a concussion in the playoff game, Bills fans went to

996
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: his organization. His charity is Backpacked for Kids in Baltimore,

997
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: and started, you know, donating to that. Um. It's something

998
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: I think the Bills fans should rightly take great pride

999
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: in and kind of cultivate. Don't let that go away,

1000
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, stay with it, do it more.

1001
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: Make that be your identity. Because if that was your

1002
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: identity and it was emulated by other fan bases around

1003
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: the country, what a force it would be. And it

1004
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: would be nice to have the Bills fan based Bills

1005
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: Mafia to be kind of the face of that and

1006
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 1: that's starting the you know, the the genesis of that.

1007
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: That would be awesome, but yes, it's very different. This

1008
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: give seven one sixth day is something we've we haven't

1009
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: seen before and it's and it's made possible and to

1010
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: raise awareness through social media. I mean we kind of

1011
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: take it for granted now because it's so much apart

1012
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: particularly you and I in the media. I mean, it's

1013
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: all we do is I mean, you scroll down the

1014
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: timeline you're looking, you know, your feed is you have

1015
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: lists and things like that you go to to find

1016
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: out what's going on, and it happens immediately and it

1017
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: comes out. We know it because we have to have

1018
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,959
Speaker 1: it for content for this show, for your sports cast,

1019
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. Certainly, that atmosphere has made it,

1020
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: like I said, more all encompassing and all ever present.

1021
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: And I think it's one of the things that technology

1022
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: is enhanced made better for all of us and I

1023
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: for this kind of stuff. In particularly there's and you know,

1024
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: not for nothing, but it's some of the organizations this

1025
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: some of the top maybe it's halp half a dozen organizations.

1026
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: I'll just mentioned the Buffalo Center for Arts and Technology.

1027
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: They provide you know, resilient learners needing targeted supports, educational

1028
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 1: career centered opportunities. The Charter School for Applied Technologies it's

1029
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: called CSAT. It's a huge campus consisting of elementary and

1030
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 1: middle school, high school students, twenty three hundred students involved.

1031
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: It's going to go for that. Dreamer's Corp is a

1032
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: five oh one C three with a mission to inspire

1033
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: and empower black and brown youth to become creators, producers,

1034
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: and innovators in technology. Goodwill of Western New York, where

1035
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: I think most of us are familiar with what Goodwill

1036
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: of Western New York does, mission ignite since there's been

1037
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 1: a an ongoing cause since nineteen ninety seven. They're part

1038
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: of this Western New York stem hub. You know, all

1039
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: these organizations are going to get this, and you say,

1040
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: it goes to education, it goes to great worthy causes

1041
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: of all kinds, and this is all gonna hit tomorrow night.

1042
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: It starts at you know, seven sixteen pm, and a

1043
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: bunch of companies are on board with and I think

1044
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: it's one of the it's I think it's almost a

1045
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: paradigm shift in that Back when I first started at that,

1046
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: and you remember this fundraisers were fundraisers. You had to

1047
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: get dressed up, sometimes in a black tie, go out,

1048
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: go to a banquet center, sit down, have a piece,

1049
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 1: have a steak or a piece of chicken, buy the ticket,

1050
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: buy something at all, you know, having they'd have a

1051
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: live auction, they'd have people donate whatever, whatever, And they

1052
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: still do those things. This is different than that, and

1053
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: I think it has the potential to be even better. Um,

1054
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: it's convenient for people. It involves things they care about,

1055
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: like bills and sabers, like the region, like these causes.

1056
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: There's it touches so many people. It's not you know,

1057
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: did you go like you know this, Remember if you

1058
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 1: went to a fundraiser it was for one organization. That's it.

1059
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: That's it. This is just way better. And I think

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Speaker 1: about the effort that had to be taken to put

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Speaker 1: those together. You had to you know, put out flyers

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Speaker 1: or mail things or you know cold call people. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, round up your fundraiser. You know, the old

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Speaker 1: it to go. First of all, but It just makes

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Speaker 1: it something that you know, it is so easy you

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Speaker 1: almost can't not do it. You know, you almost can't

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Speaker 1: avoid it. You know you feel like, geez, all you

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Speaker 1: or clickup buttons and I can make a difference, you know,

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Speaker 1: in this person or this organization's life. It's hard not to.

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00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: And and again credit to the Bills fans for in

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00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: large part being the driving force behind us. Steve Tasker,

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00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: Thad Brown, Give seven one six dot org go on

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night seven sixteen is give seven one sixth day

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Speaker 1: tomorrow at seven sixteen. It starts tomorrow, it ends on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Of course, on July sixteenth at midnight. You'll have all

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Speaker 1: that time to go in. There's some certain times of

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00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: the day we can log on give a donation that

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Speaker 1: will be matched as well. We're gonna come back right

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Speaker 1: after this break. We'll talk a little bit more about

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00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 1: the Priests offseason polls and offseason rankings, and also Josh

1085
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: Allen extension. If you want to call and talk to us,

1086
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: do so now at eight O three five fifty or

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Speaker 1: one eight eight five fifty two five fifteen. We'll get

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Speaker 1: you on right after the break. This is Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: Radio at a Steve Tasker who has been all over

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00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: the fields. Kind of unique. He was kind of a

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00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: dual role player for you, Steve a blimp. We're not

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00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: even in the strated here of normalcy here. Welcome back

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00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: to one of Bill's live Steve Tasker, Thad Brown. Here.

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Speaker 1: Just before we came on the air today, if you've

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00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: been listening to the show, came across the wire that

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Speaker 1: Richard Sherman, the free agent cornerback of a ten year

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00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: veteran who is Super Bowl Champion, had been with the

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00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: forty nine ers for the past three years. He was

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00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: arrested on a domestic violence charge and burglary charge in Seattle, Washington.

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Speaker 1: And you know, bail was denied, and we've been informed

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00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: since we came on the air that that's kind of normal.

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00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: The way this is progressing is normal. If the police

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00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: show up, which obviously they did in this case, and

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00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: they believe or come to believe that there was a

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00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: violent act that happened in the last four hours, the

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00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 1: person responsible has to be arrested and he's not available

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00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: to get bail until he appears before a judge. And

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00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: that has not happened yet, and so that's why Richard

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00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: Sherman is probably still in the lock up there in Seattle.

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00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: So we're keeping track of that. And it's the guys

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00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: on the Executive Committee for the NFLPA. The NFLP has

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00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: come out with a statement saying there until the more

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00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: facts are made, they're they're they're intervening on behalf of

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00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: obviously the family and the protocols that they have in

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00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: place for this um are kicked in for the protection

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00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 1: of everybody involved, and then they'll wait wait more facts

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00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: as they come out. But certainly Richard Sherman, who is

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00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: a prominent member of the Players Association, this does not

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Speaker 1: look good for him at this early stage. Well it

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Speaker 1: Steve just a prominent member of the NFL. I mean, yes,

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00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: whether he was connected the NFLPA or not, this is

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00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: guy that's been outspoken, you know, from a leadership point

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Speaker 1: of view in a variety of ways. Not everybody agrees

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Speaker 1: with everything he said, but he certainly has taken the

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Speaker 1: stand up. I am going to be, you know, a figurehead,

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Speaker 1: a person who's going to try and you know, initiate

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00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: change and what I believe and what you know in

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00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: many cases has been you know, a positive direction for

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00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: the league, and you know, trying to to interpret the

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00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: laws in this case and what they might mean. You know,

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00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: you say that he has to be denied bail because

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00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: police suspect there was a violent act in the last

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Speaker 1: four hours. Well, there's also a part of this story

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00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: where when the police showed up, Sherman fought with them.

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00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: So I think very likely the violent act could be

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Speaker 1: that to where police don't have to guess or wonder

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00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: or suspect they witnessed the violent act because Sherman fought

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Speaker 1: with them. And for a guy to fight with police,

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00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: now there's no injuries that we've been told or that

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00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 1: have been reported. For a guy to fight with police,

1141
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: that tells you that's probably a guy that's really upset

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00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: about something. To put it, you know, kind of lightly,

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00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: and they're being held in jail. I would think the

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00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: law would would this is the logic behind it, to

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00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: prevent a guy from going right back out and maybe

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00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,919
Speaker 1: pursuing or you know, going after what made him angry

1147
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: in the first place. Well, so yeah, to me, it

1148
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: feels like something really take Richard Sherman off. He tried

1149
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: to go settle it and the police intervene and that's

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00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: about all we know at this point. Yeah, and it's

1151
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: easy to construe we don't know anything happened, we weren't

1152
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: there or whatever. But and you know, it's easy to

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00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: construe a guy like Richard Sherman if he was there

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00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: at the residence and he didn't live there and was

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00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: confronted by police officers, if he feels it was unjust.

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00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: You can picture a guy like Richard Sherman say hey,

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00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: you gott I am done anything and whatever they're saying

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00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: is a lie. And then if they were going to

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00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: take him in any way, you could see a guy

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00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: getting mad about not having done anything and then you know,

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00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: being taken away for no reason. I got like Richard Sherman,

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00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: you could not he would. You could see him losing

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00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,439
Speaker 1: his mind over not doing anything, showing up a place

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00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: where he's been before and has been welcome in the past,

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00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: all of a sudden that changes. You can see a

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00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: guy getting mad about threatening to be arrested for something

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00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: he hasn't done. That's his side of it, And obviously

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00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: the other side is something we've seen all far too often,

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00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: where somebody was somebody was physically abused and the guy

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Speaker 1: thinks he can get away with it. And one thing

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00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: to the point out two, to this point, there's been

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Speaker 1: no report that whoever Sherman was going after is a female,

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00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: you know where you just talk about it normally when

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Speaker 1: you hear the word domestic you know, incident abuse, whatever

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00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: you think of a male against the female. Now that

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00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: that may be the case, but to this point that

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Speaker 1: hasn't been reported. And this could easily have been you know,

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00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: some guy who you know, maybe didn't pay off a

1179
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: bat or any kind of dumb thing you can think

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Speaker 1: of that take Richard Sherman off and he went, you know,

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00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: chasing that down. So again the most important thing that

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00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: you said before, and that's right, we don't know. But

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00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: also I just want to point out no female involvement

1184
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: has been reported in this case. Yeah, we don't know.

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00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: We don't know who this person was and or what

1186
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: the situation was. I'm sure it'll come out, you know,

1187
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: bit by bit, like everything has. But it's you know,

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00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: it's bad because Richard Sherman, like you said, he's one

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00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: of even though he's a free agent, not hired, not

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00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: on any team at all in the NFL now he

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00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: is a member of the Executive Council of the NFLPA.

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00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: I believe that's his title, but that is he's a

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00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: prominent NFL figure and he is a vice president of

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00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: the NFL Players Association Executive Committee. This is I think

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00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: it's bad. I think it's bad. No matter what about it,

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00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: it's bad. It's bad. And we're we've been talking about

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00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: a little bit today. If you want to chime in

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00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: on it, you can. You can call us at eight

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Speaker 1: O three oh five fifty or one eight fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty. Bill's face. Probably want to talk about today

1201
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: is some of the other stuff we've been talking about

1202
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: with josh Alan and his contract extension. You and I

1203
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: both think and I and let me just say this, right,

1204
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I don't talk to Brandon Bean,

1205
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: I don't talk to Sean McDermott. I certainly don't talk

1206
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: to Kim and Terry. And I say Kim and Terry

1207
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: because they're part of the family, right everybody, you know,

1208
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: they're all you know, all right, So Kim and Terry,

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00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: I don't talk to them. You're good, right, So we

1210
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: don't have to say their last names, right, So I

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00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: don't talk to Sean or Brandon. I don't talk to anybody,

1212
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: but I'm with you. My gut tells me they want

1213
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: to get this done. I mean, like now right and

1214
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: probably and I think before Lamar goes, before before Baker goes,

1215
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: they want to get Josh tied up because it's only

1216
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: gonna get the price, it's only gonna go up. And

1217
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: I think the real challenge is structuring this thing so

1218
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: the bills can still you know, sign guys and be

1219
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: competitive when it kicks in. And we talked about it

1220
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: earlier that the Patrick Mahomes contract kind of sort of

1221
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: you laid the blueprint for how to make that happen.

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01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: How to you know, structure a contract so that teams

1223
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: can still have um, you know, flexibility. And the one

1224
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: thing I say about you know, I tell people all

1225
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: the time with trying to read what teams want and

1226
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: what they're thinking, don't listen to what they say. There

1227
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: are things they have to say to keep keep a

1228
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: look up or to keep you know, possibilities open, keep

1229
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: doors open to them, look at what they do well.

1230
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: The bills restructures to find digs this contract a little

1231
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: while ago. Haven't done anything with that money yet so

1232
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: there's some move coming. There's some other shoe in my opinion,

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01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: that has to drop, you know, in response to that,

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01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: to that initial move, and it could very easily be

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's contract. And you know, now with with one

1236
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: corner off the board, you know, if we want to

1237
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: take the Richardsterman situation and look at it from a

1238
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: football perspective, that makes a free agent signing a little

1239
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: less likely Josh Allen and a new contract would be

1240
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 1: that now the more certainly more than than it was

1241
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: this morning. But I think the more likely situation altogether, right.

1242
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Speaker 1: And we've also been talking about, you know, these preseason rankings,

1243
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: preseason polls as well, that Bills are how interested are

1244
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: you in them? Are they irrelevant to you? Or are

1245
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: you interested? Only when the Bills are involved in about

1246
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: half the people have said, yeah, I'm not interested, and

1247
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: then then the other most of the other half will

1248
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 1: say yeah, if the I'm interested because I love the

1249
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: league and I'm interested because now the Bills are at

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01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: the top of a lot of them, you know, and

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01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: I we see this a lot on the three point

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01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: two percent is I'm interested when I don't agree that

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01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: the Bills should be on and they aren't, or they

1254
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: are and they shouldn't be. There's only three percent of

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01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: the people who say, yeah, that's when I that's because

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01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: that's why I'm interested. You get a lot more than

1257
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: that on Twitter usually people. I mean, Bill's mafia is

1258
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: notorious for crushing descent on the Josh Allen bandwagon, right,

1259
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: I mean they are notorious for that, but only three

1260
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: point two percent of the people say that's why they're interested.

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01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: They'll come to his defense, but that's not why they

1262
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: They either are interested or disinterested when these rankings polls

1263
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Speaker 1: come out, most people are not interested. I don't know

1264
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: what I don't know what you're thinking. Thought is you

1265
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: and I have said both we I love this stuff

1266
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: because people like you and I come up with questions

1267
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: for fans like what are you interested in? You know,

1268
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: and they'll come up and say, listen, here's the way

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Speaker 1: I rank this type of player, or here's the way

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01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: I rank this position in the league. You know, quarterbacks,

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01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 1: wide receivers, wide receiver groups, offensive line, free agent classes,

1272
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: draft classes. I mean, you can slice a you know,

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01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: an NFL football team fifty three different ways and come

1274
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: up with a poll for it. You and I have

1275
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: admitted and we lap that stuff up, man, I mean,

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01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: I guzzle it down. People are always kind of and

1277
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: I love people coming up and talking to me. You

1278
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: thad it happens. You saw yesterday. People come up and

1279
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 1: talk to me and they want to and I love it.

1280
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: I am absolutely open for that, and they go listen.

1281
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: They're always apologetic. I'm sorry. I know you probably don't

1282
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 1: want to talk about football. I were like, now, I

1283
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: do it for a living as because I love doing it.

1284
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: So what do you got, what's your take? I want

1285
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: to hear it. So that's why I drink this stuff

1286
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: down like kool aid, all these polls, all these rankings,

1287
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 1: all this stuff, because I like to get in the

1288
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: mind of what people are thinking about, not only the Bills,

1289
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: but the league at large. So for me, I'm dead

1290
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: in a I mean, I'm I'm like, listen, I'm interested

1291
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: because I love the NFL and it for obvious. I mean,

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01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: I'm this is not you know, this is not a

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01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: revelation for most people listening to the show. But I

1294
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: think most people underestimate my appetite for all things that

1295
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: that all of guys like me spew out constantly. I mean,

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01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: I let me let me second the opinion that I'd

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01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: ever get tired of talking about it. And for anybody

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01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: who I do get the same question that you get

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01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: every once in a while, don't you get tired of

1300
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: talking about sports? Nope? Nope, whatever you want to talk?

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01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: Are you want to ask me a question? I am

1302
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: totally downe whatever you want. What do you think of

1303
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: the Bills, Syracuse basketball rush, Henrietta High School? Whatever you want?

1304
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: This is what I do. You know, totally fine. Yeah.

1305
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: And then when it comes to the polls, you know,

1306
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: on the one hand, I know they're irrelevant. You know

1307
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: the recent ESPN Quarterback one that said Josh Allen was

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01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 1: QB number five. Does that mean he's gonna be the

1309
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,919
Speaker 1: fifth best quarterback this year? No? He might be two,

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01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: he might be fifteen. Who knows. I think I lean

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01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: more towards two than fifteen. Regardless, it doesn't it's irrelevant.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm with you. I mean, just you know,

1313
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: put it as a trough and I'm a pig, you know,

1314
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm just happy to be there and starting it all up.

1315
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 1: And and the thing to me too, is you talk

1316
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 1: about getting fans perspectives I like these because most of

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01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: these are put together by people I respect to cover

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01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 1: the league, people who have a fascinating take. That's, you

1319
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: know why they're you know, national level writers, so to

1320
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: get their opinion. And you know, you and I cover

1321
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: the Bills primarily among the thirty two teams. We follow

1322
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: the other ones, but we cover the Bills a whole

1323
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: different deal to get someone's interesting take on you know,

1324
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: why the Rams of a better receiver group than the Seahawks.

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01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: That's something that I find, you know, unendingly fashionating. And

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01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: I'm happy to read as many of them as I

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01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 1: can get my hands on, you know, between now and

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01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:09,439
Speaker 1: when the real work starts in a couple of weeks.

1329
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: You know, we're talking about this Josh Allen extension, and

1330
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: it's and you think about how good a season he

1331
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: had last year, and how how eye popping it was,

1332
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: and all the unbelievable plays he made and the throws

1333
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: and the step forward he took, and the team getting

1334
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game. Just I mean, and I watched

1335
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 1: every game, and the all the home games, I was

1336
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 1: in person. I was in the building looking at it

1337
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 1: up close from the from the booth and Bill's fans

1338
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 1: missed out on a what was just an unbelievable show.

1339
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: It was unbelievable to be in that building watching those

1340
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: guys play. They were amazing. And having said that, I

1341
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: was asked yesterday about what happens if Josh regresses, what

1342
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: if his stats aren't I and I had this answer.

1343
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 1: I said, listen, there's every chance that Josh won't have

1344
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: as good as statistics as he did last year. But

1345
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: it won't be because he's not the same player. It'll

1346
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: because teams have a way to take him away. He'll

1347
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: do this. The guy's still gonna be this. I think

1348
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna be exact same guy last year, if not

1349
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 1: better this year. His stats are going to change. He's

1350
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: not gonna have an identical season. He may have three

1351
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: less three less touchdowns, or hat and half the interceptions,

1352
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: or three more touchdowns and three more interc who knows,

1353
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 1: it'll be in that ballpark. He may regress a little

1354
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: bit or whatever, but he's gonna be the same quarterback.

1355
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: He's gonna be really really good, and everything else around

1356
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: him may change. The results might not look quite as

1357
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: eye popping as they did this last year, but he's

1358
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: gonna be He's gonna be the atomic bomb. I mean,

1359
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: he's the the ultimate weapon in the league. His physical abilities,

1360
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 1: his running ability, his arm strength, his leadership, his command

1361
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: of the offense, the weapons he's got around him, the organization,

1362
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: the way they're playing, the power of the empowerment they

1363
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: give him, and the leadership and the coaching and the

1364
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 1: play calling they give him, He's gonna be fantastic. His

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01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: stats may be different next year. They may not be

1366
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,919
Speaker 1: his eye popping I've said though, I think they're gonna

1367
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: go up another notch. But they may not be. But

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01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean he's not gonna be just as dominant

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01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: as he was this year. I mean, there's we said,

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Speaker 1: if he takes us he I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: possible for him to take a leap as big as

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Speaker 1: he did last year. I don't know what that even looks.

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Speaker 1: I've said it a ton, I don't know what that

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01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: would look like. In quarterback play, I've never seen a

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01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: guy play that good. Because if you put last year's

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01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: step and put it and double it this year, like

1377
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna take that biggest step this year, I don't

1378
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: think we've ever seen a quarterback play that good. So

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01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how you predict that. So I don't

1380
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 1: you know sooner or later he's gonna plateau at least,

1381
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 1: but I even so, he's still gonna be at least

1382
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 1: as good as he was last year. And so having

1383
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: said that, that's that's where you're at. I think the

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Speaker 1: thing that's been most impressive about Josh Allen has been

1385
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 1: the improvement he's made in his second and third years

1386
01:07:58,360 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: in the league. Year one to two and year two

1387
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: to three, and both years have been incredibly large jumps.

1388
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 1: And you're right, I don't. I think I'm at a

1389
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 1: point now where I've seen him improve and get better,

1390
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: and I believe in that ability in Josh Allen so

1391
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: much that if you go into this season and think

1392
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's gonna regress, you know, that's the wrong take

1393
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,759
Speaker 1: to me. I don't see how you expect that, because

1394
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 1: of what we've seen him do, improving from from you know,

1395
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 1: where he started as a rookie to now, I expect

1396
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:27,600
Speaker 1: another improvement. Now, you're right, you know the ceiling is

1397
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: he's getting close to the ceiling to where you just

1398
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 1: can't make that jump again, because I don't there's nowhere

1399
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,640
Speaker 1: else to go, But I don't I think if you

1400
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: want to see what direction Josh Allen's gonna go this year,

1401
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 1: Even as good as he was last season, I expect

1402
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 1: Josh Allen to get a little better now. Are there

1403
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 1: areas where he could regress? Sure? You know, the the

1404
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: off platform accuracy last year was off the charts, and

1405
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 1: it's not something we thought we would get in Josh

1406
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 1: Allen coming out of college at any point, and to

1407
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: expect that to continue, or maybe a better way to

1408
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: put it is, So I'm gonna pick an area where

1409
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen might regress. It's there, you know,

1410
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 1: because he put balls in spots. The one that always

1411
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: comes to mind is the John Brown throw against the

1412
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: Raiders where his feet are, you know, pointed to left

1413
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: field and he's throwing the right field and put it

1414
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 1: between two defenders right here. You know, doing that, I

1415
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: don't know how you teach it. That's light years over

1416
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: my head, but I know from just watching different quarterbacks

1417
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: expecting it to happen year in year out is probably

1418
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 1: not reasonable. So that would be to me the most

1419
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,600
Speaker 1: likely spot. But again, the guy keeps getting better, and

1420
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 1: why you expect anything else at this point I think

1421
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: is incorrect. Steve Tasker along with that Brown here on

1422
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: One Bills Live, we're talking about the Josh Allen and

1423
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: the way he played, what his future looks like, and

1424
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 1: also the contract extension that he's in line to get.

1425
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 1: They obviously picked up his fifth year contract. He's guaranteed

1426
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: twenty three point something something million in his fifth year.

1427
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 1: He's got his fourth year still to play, and when

1428
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 1: will the extension happen. Here's one of the logical reasons

1429
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 1: why the extension may happen like like soon, is because

1430
01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: they don't want him to get disgruntled playing for whatever

1431
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: seven million he's playing for this year or whatever it's.

1432
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: It's a small number quarterback NFL quarterback speaking, particularly one

1433
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: who finished second in the end of MVP race. That's

1434
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: a small number, and that's something you want to fix

1435
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 1: as an organization. So if you can give him a

1436
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: long term deal and have it kick in after next

1437
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 1: year when he makes twenty three points some four million

1438
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: or something like that on the fifth year of his

1439
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 1: rookie franchise, but you can give him the signing bonus

1440
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 1: now and then that gets spread out as well. So

1441
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 1: if that happens. Now is the time because he's not

1442
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: making anything this year. So any excess money you have

1443
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 1: under the cap, throw it at the guy. Extend him

1444
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: as far as you can feasibly extend him and keep

1445
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 1: him happy for the season he put together last year

1446
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 1: and for the season that you and I've been talking

1447
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: about he may put together this year. Whatever you're gonna

1448
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 1: pay him, you got a pretty good idea it's gonna

1449
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: be worth it. He's gonna give your money's worth. And

1450
01:10:56,200 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 1: so I'm I'm totally with you. I'm I feel, I

1451
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 1: feel it in the next two months that's gonna get done.

1452
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 1: I have no insight information other than the fact that

1453
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense and if they've got

1454
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 1: the money, spend it in the right place. So you

1455
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: really think, Steve, do you really think he would get

1456
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: disgruntled if they didn't get the count, if he had

1457
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 1: to play out the rookie contract this year, Because Josh

1458
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 1: strikes me as a kind of guy that would understand

1459
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 1: the situation to where, you know, they're not going to

1460
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 1: just come up with a band aid extension to where, hey,

1461
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: let's let's give you a raise. Maybe they would, you know,

1462
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 1: maybe they'd say, you know, we got five million land around,

1463
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: let me let me get to you. We'll help you

1464
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 1: out for now and help you out well, we'll improve

1465
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: your contract situation for now and then come up with

1466
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 1: a big extension down the road, because I think both

1467
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: sides probably understand that this next contract is a pivotal

1468
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 1: deal in the future of both the player and the

1469
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 1: organization to where it needs to be handled, you know,

1470
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 1: with the utmost care and foresight, and uh, you know,

1471
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 1: an opportunity where both either opened the discussion to where

1472
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: I don't think if I think Josh would understand if

1473
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't get done between now in September twelve, understand

1474
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 1: why that is and not be disgruntled. Now, I've never

1475
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:11,719
Speaker 1: been an NFL player. I've never been in an NFL

1476
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: locker room. You've been in a locker room with guys,

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Speaker 1: multiple guys who merrited that kind of contract. So you know,

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Speaker 1: that's why I go back to my start of the question,

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01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,719
Speaker 1: which is, do you really think you wouldn't get disgruntled. Well,

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01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: it's not that long ago. We didn't think Aaron Rodgers

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01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 1: is gonna get disgruntled, or Deshaun Watson, who would before

1482
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: all his other problems. Hit was never gonna play for

1483
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 1: the Texans again, just forget the sexual misconduct that he's

1484
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: been accused of before that he said, I ain't playing

1485
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: for those guys anymore. You lied to me. Russell Wilson

1486
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 1: who had to come out and said this week, Hey,

1487
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,480
Speaker 1: me and coach Carroll have never had a better relationship.

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01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: Rights he's mending fences that because he seemed to be

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01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: a little bit disgruntled. Brett Farve is notorious for how

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01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 1: he left Green Bay. Carson wentz how to go south

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01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: that fast for him In Philadelphia. Ben Roethlisberger, who took

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01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: a pay cut this year and now has been Howard

1493
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 1: and Jeremy were Howard and the crew were talking about

1494
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 1: it early this morning, had a guy from Pittsburgh on saying,

1495
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:15,520
Speaker 1: how Ben has really rededicated himself this offseason. You know, yeah,

1496
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 1: guy's dick get disgruntled. It had Dak Prescott. You don't

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01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 1: think he was like even looking sideways at Jerry for

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01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: that time. Now he's you know, yeah, it happens. I'm

1499
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: now Josh a different guy into different here in Buffalo,

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01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 1: and it is in some of those other places. But

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01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 1: they're all human beings. At some point they're gonna start going,

1502
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 1: what's the deal and what are you doing? What are

1503
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 1: we doing here? You know, at some point. I'm not

1504
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: saying it'll happen in the next it may not happen

1505
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 1: for Josh. Maybe Josh, it's okay, it's cool. I know

1506
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 1: they'll take care of me. But a lot of it

1507
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 1: has to do with what this coaching staff and organization

1508
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 1: has been really good at lately communicating to their players

1509
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 1: and being brutally honest, brutally honest to the point where

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01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 1: it motivates players. And also the communication between Josh and

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01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 1: his representation. It I'd be hard, You'd be hard. It'd

1512
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 1: be hard to convince me that Brandon Bean hasn't said

1513
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 1: all the right things to Josh and his representation, both

1514
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 1: to Josh face to face casual conversations and also to

1515
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 1: his representation said here, you know, we're getting there and

1516
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna be closed. Whatever it would. You'd be hard

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01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 1: pressed to tell convince me that there hasn't been multiple

1518
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 1: multiple conversations both from Josh and to Josh about you know,

1519
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 1: where they both stand in the conversation and the club

1520
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 1: making sure that Josh is not going to get to

1521
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 1: that point where he turns into Ben Roethlisberger a couple

1522
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 1: of years ago, Aaron Rodgers currently, Brett Farve years ago,

1523
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz in Philadelphia, Deshaun Watson before the draft and

1524
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 1: all this stuff. Stuff aside, what hit You know, it happens,

1525
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: and you got us look around and say, man, you

1526
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 1: can't let it happen to your guy. Whatever it takes.

1527
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: So yeah, it can happen. But like you said, if

1528
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 1: we're talking about it, you know, the team has been

1529
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 1: way out in front of us saying, listen, we got

1530
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 1: to make sure that this is an open communication between

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01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: us and Josh and his representation. And I'm sure without

1532
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 1: having even been told that that that has happened to

1533
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 1: some extent, do you agree? I would think so. Yeah,

1534
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 1: And it goes back to the way this organization is

1535
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,560
Speaker 1: has handled everything. I mean, it's been you know, the

1536
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 1: most surprising part of the Brandon being Sean McDermott era

1537
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: is that off the field, they don't do anything wrong seemingly,

1538
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: you know. And I'm sure if we want to dive

1539
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 1: into all, you know, four season, we'll find something, but

1540
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,080
Speaker 1: you know, for the big things, for the important things,

1541
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: you know, everything. This is not a team that deals

1542
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 1: with contracts squabbles. You know, this is not a team

1543
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 1: that deals with disgruntled players yet. But you're right, and

1544
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: you bring up a litany of examples about guys we

1545
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 1: never thought of would have fallen in the category of

1546
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 1: disgruntled and then suddenly they are. So yeah, I agree

1547
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: what you're saying, and thank you for asking my own questions. Steve.

1548
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 1: That's a very good reporter athlete interaction. I appreciate that.

1549
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 1: All right, Steve, Tasker, Thad Brown. We're gonna come back

1550
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 1: talk more about the Josh Allen extension, talk more about

1551
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 1: what are these preseason polls and rankings that you like,

1552
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: and also we're gonna get into some of the stuff

1553
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 1: on Buffalo bills dot Com Camp countdown coming up after

1554
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 1: the break. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to

1555
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 1: one of those lives. Keep Tasker, Fad Brown in for

1556
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 1: a vacationing Chris Brown. We're gonna take a couple of

1557
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 1: minutes here. We've been talking about Josh Allen, his contract extension,

1558
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:40,679
Speaker 1: when what it looked like, when it is going to happen. Also,

1559
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman his arrest this morning or last night on

1560
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 1: domestic violence charge. And also we want to get into

1561
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that we're hap is happening here

1562
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: in Buffalo about about this team and who might be

1563
01:16:56,280 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 1: a surprise contributor this year, particularly from the free agent class.

1564
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 1: You can go on Buffalo bills dot com. Mattie Glaban

1565
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 1: I have a short video that we talk about some

1566
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 1: of the possibilities and you look at the free agent

1567
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: class of the Bills brought in Matt Breda, Emmanuel Sanders,

1568
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 1: fa Obadau, Mike Hollister, the tight end um, which of those,

1569
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 1: which of these free agents, which of these new additions

1570
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 1: fad do you think may have a chance to be

1571
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 1: a surprise contributor. That's like, wow, hey look at that guy.

1572
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 1: Which one do you think is has the best chance

1573
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: to do that? There's it. Hold on a minute, Hold

1574
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 1: on a minute. We we I don't I can't hear him,

1575
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 1: is he on? Hold on? Yeah? His microphones down? Hold on,

1576
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 1: hold on, Sorry, Sorry, there you go. I'm at home

1577
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 1: and I had to I had to check in what

1578
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 1: the daughter was doing. Um there was noise made upstairs.

1579
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 1: Even though she's thirteen, I still gotta you know what's

1580
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 1: going on? Nothing's burning right, so that I had the

1581
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 1: mute and I didn't need you guys to hear about it.

1582
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,679
Speaker 1: But now all Western New York knows because I screwed

1583
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 1: up the zoom. So that's where we are anywh perfectly.

1584
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 1: To answer your question, go ahead. Now we all know

1585
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 1: what's we've all done. And now it's particularly the last

1586
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:10,879
Speaker 1: eighteen months, sometime we've all been muted. We've muted ourselves

1587
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: and didn't know it. So go ahead, Yeah, to answer

1588
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 1: your question, I think fo about is the guy the

1589
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 1: Bills have talked him up, you know, Sean McDermot and

1590
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,640
Speaker 1: Leslie Frasier, especially unprompted. You know this is this is

1591
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: not a guy that I think most of us in

1592
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 1: the media thought would be a priority on the on

1593
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 1: the radar in terms of going into this season. When

1594
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 1: you got Jerry Hughes and Mario Addison, you're spending draft

1595
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 1: picks high draft picks left and right on pass rushers

1596
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 1: that fa Obada would be a primary guy. But here's

1597
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 1: a guy that that broke out a little bit last year.

1598
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 1: I think with five or six sacks with the Panthers

1599
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: last season. He's got a monster wingspan, so you know,

1600
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 1: kind of like Greg Rousseau, but without the first round

1601
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: pick being invested. And when you talk about impact or

1602
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 1: away a guy can contribute. When you look at the

1603
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 1: other free agents, put Emmanuel Sanders aside for a second

1604
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 1: because he's been signed for a specific purpose. But Matt

1605
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 1: Brida and Jacob Hollister both kind of play at spots

1606
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 1: that are not priority spots or's priority usage areas for

1607
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 1: the Bills. This is not a running team he and

1608
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 1: b There's so many good receivers it's hard to see

1609
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,560
Speaker 1: tight ends getting enough targets, whether it's Jacob Hollister or

1610
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox, to really have an impact. So to me,

1611
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 1: where there's an opening to have an impact is certainly

1612
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 1: on the defensive line. And if the Bills can get

1613
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: out of Faobada even what they got last year in Carolina,

1614
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 1: which is half a dozen sacks, that's a huge impact

1615
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 1: for this team. If you tell me that someone not

1616
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 1: named Edmund's Milano Klein Addison Hughes has six sacks this year,

1617
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 1: then that guy is gonna be a big deal for

1618
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 1: this Buffalo Bills team. Well, I'll say this. A lot

1619
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 1: of people know I've seen the interview I did with

1620
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 1: him after his first game as a pro. That guy

1621
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 1: passes the eye test, just like a lot of the

1622
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 1: guys the Bills drafted this year and Greg Rousseau and

1623
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 1: Spencer Brown, Tommy Doyle. This guy walks in the room

1624
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 1: and he is a pro athlete and he looks the part.

1625
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:05,560
Speaker 1: I think the Bills, and I'm not saying that this

1626
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 1: is like a cosmetic thing or ant, but I think

1627
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:13,680
Speaker 1: the Bills look first and foremost for physical traits in

1628
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 1: their players, the players that they get to choose, the

1629
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,679
Speaker 1: free agents in the draft picks. They look for physical traits.

1630
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 1: Josh Allen first and foremost. They look for physical traits,

1631
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 1: and then they go deeper and say, Okay, is he

1632
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 1: a great teammate, a great guy as he motivated by

1633
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 1: the right things in his life? Does he want to

1634
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 1: be great? Or is he after the money in the fame?

1635
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 1: Because as soon as he gets in the league and

1636
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 1: all that stuff, is he gets it, he shuts his

1637
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 1: engine off. That kind of thing. They they look for

1638
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,839
Speaker 1: physical traits and players, then they look for the character

1639
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 1: and what makes the guy tick and is he going

1640
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:48,799
Speaker 1: to be a good teammate? Is he going to strive

1641
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: to be as good as he can possibly be. Is

1642
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 1: he gonna make guys around him better? Fa Obada seems

1643
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 1: to fit all that stuff. He certainly passes the physical

1644
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: trait test. And I think that is as much as

1645
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 1: anything the philosophy that we're seeing played out in the

1646
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott team here in the fourth year we're there. Now,

1647
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 1: they're getting to a place where they can they can

1648
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: pick some guys they want to play. People are kind

1649
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:14,640
Speaker 1: of like, yeah, looking forward, Lay, I'd like kind of

1650
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 1: like to play in Buffalo. We've never seen that, and

1651
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 1: it's a testament to Sean McDermott and this coaching staff

1652
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: and the culture they've built and Brandon Bean's ability to

1653
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 1: go out and say, you know what, this guy checks

1654
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: the boxes we think are pretty important and getting them.

1655
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 1: That's why this team got to the AFC Championship Game

1656
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:34,640
Speaker 1: last year. That's why they were in the playoffs the

1657
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 1: year before. That's why they were in the playoffs with

1658
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,799
Speaker 1: it in their first year on the job, when everybody

1659
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 1: thought they were tanking with that roster. This is the

1660
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 1: coaching staff gets the most out of its people, and

1661
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 1: when you've got a lot of people on there that

1662
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:53,760
Speaker 1: click off a lot of boxes, including some elite traits. Yeah,

1663
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 1: you're a handful, so fa Obada is a good call

1664
01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 1: by you. And I think when I do the I

1665
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 1: did the video for this, who I think one of

1666
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 1: these free agents that's gonna make a difference. I think

1667
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Matt Brita because they're gonna they're gonna

1668
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 1: give him some touches and he gives you something this

1669
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 1: team hasn't had for a while. Shady McCoy was good,

1670
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 1: he didn't have he was shifty and he was gonna

1671
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: leap back, but he was longer than the tooth. He

1672
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 1: didn't have four three speed. Matt Brida has four three speed.

1673
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 1: That guy is gonna get to the edge of the

1674
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: defense fast. He's gonna be a level of difficulty for

1675
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 1: a defense to defend that they haven't had to look

1676
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 1: at with this offense in the past couple of years.

1677
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 1: So I think it will all come down to this too.

1678
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 1: And and you know this kind of is basic football fad.

1679
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 1: If Brita comes out and does a couple of things quick,

1680
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 1: he's he's gonna get more opportunities. He's gonna earn more touches.

1681
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 1: That's one thing this coaching staff does really, really well.

1682
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 1: They go to they give the ball to guys who

1683
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 1: are making a difference today right now, they get more opportunities,

1684
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: and I think Brita has a chance for that to

1685
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 1: be his calling card this season. On Brandon being said

1686
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 1: before the draft openly that this is a running game

1687
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 1: and a bat field that lacks home run hitters. Well,

1688
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:17,679
Speaker 1: Breeda is that guy, or it can be that guy,

1689
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 1: And I think you're right. If he can be a

1690
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 1: home run hitter quickly early, you know, weeks one, two, three,

1691
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: something like that, maybe even in the preseason, he's gonna

1692
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 1: get more chances. Because if you can open up, if

1693
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 1: you can force teams to respect the Bills running game

1694
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 1: and worry about you know, the fact that one touch

1695
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 1: by Brita could be a fifty yard touchdown, you know

1696
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 1: what that does for the box and you know what

1697
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,799
Speaker 1: Stefan Digg wants to do down the field. It changes everything.

1698
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 1: So it does make a big difference. I'm a little

1699
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 1: skeptical about Brita, you know, for a guy that's you know,

1700
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: lost touches to undrafted free agents and low draft, low

1701
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: round draft picks in the last two spots, he's been

1702
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 1: at you know, to me, I think that you got

1703
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 1: to respect what that probably says. But there is going

1704
01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 1: to be an opportunity here, and you're and you know,

1705
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 1: the GM has openly stated that the guys he already

1706
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 1: had we're lacking something that Breeda does have. So there's

1707
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 1: gonna be there's gonna be chances for sure. But I

1708
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 1: said this side, by the way, go ahead, I just

1709
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 1: want to say that my daughter also has elite stay

1710
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 1: at home traits before Western New York thinks that she's

1711
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 1: some irresponsible kid that I'm gonna have to hear about

1712
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 1: later because I ruined her rep on TV and in

1713
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 1: the radio. She's a good kid, did good with the COVID,

1714
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 1: generally responsible, but every once in a while. Get all right,

1715
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 1: we'll keep her on our list I possible free agent signings.

1716
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 1: Then there you go. I think you're right, but I

1717
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 1: say this, Yeah, Breed has got elite speed, he's got breakaways,

1718
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 1: he's got something that the other two other backs don't have.

1719
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 1: But I'll say this too, that doesn't mean that the

1720
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 1: Bills think they can't win without home run hitting speed.

1721
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it'd be nice. It'd be nice if

1722
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 1: you had that option. But if he's not good enough,

1723
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:54,680
Speaker 1: he's not good enough. And just because he has that

1724
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 1: trade doesn't mean they can't just hand the ball off

1725
01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 1: to Isaiah McKenzie. You know, if they need an elite

1726
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 1: breakaway speed somebody to get to the edge of the defense,

1727
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 1: just hand the ball to that guy. Certainly it'll look

1728
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 1: different coming from a wide receiver, but you know, a

1729
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 1: running back. Sure he's got some elite trades, he's got

1730
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: that speed that that works at. But you're right that

1731
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:18,640
Speaker 1: to me, when a guy bounces around the league the

1732
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 1: way he has the last couple of years, you want

1733
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 1: to find out why. Certainly, the Bills probably looked into

1734
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 1: that and said, you know, what's the story and probably

1735
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 1: got answers they didn't they had they were comfortable with,

1736
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 1: and said, okay, yeah, okay, we can live with that. Well,

1737
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 1: we got him, and they'll give him the opportunity and

1738
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 1: let him and let him prove himself in training camp,

1739
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 1: in the OTAs and in the preseason just what kind

1740
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:41,680
Speaker 1: of player he is and what kind of student he is,

1741
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 1: and you know how committed he is. But I think

1742
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 1: for a team that we've we talked about a lot

1743
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 1: that and you can I'll ask you for your take. Yeah, okay,

1744
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 1: their running game was not everything they wanted to be

1745
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,600
Speaker 1: last year. For me, for the most part, I do

1746
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 1: not care. I do not care. I think you want

1747
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 1: to have an ability to run the ball, you know,

1748
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not in the in the camp

1749
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 1: of I don't care at all. You know, there are

1750
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 1: certainly situations where you could use it. You know, I

1751
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 1: go back to we talked about this on Monday a

1752
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 1: little bit that you know, the Bills and it comes

1753
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 1: to scoring touchdowns from inside the three are not very

1754
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: good without having to us the quarterback. And you know,

1755
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 1: exposing Josh Allen to all those hits in the in

1756
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:25,640
Speaker 1: the red, in the in tight end, goal, goal to

1757
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 1: goal kind of situations might be something you want to avoid.

1758
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 1: But there's no doubt this is the passing league, and

1759
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 1: if you can throw the ball the way the Bills

1760
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 1: did last year, they're not going to really need the

1761
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 1: running game. But you know, we saw the Patriots. Now,

1762
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 1: grant the weather was an issue that day, but the

1763
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 1: Patriots in Orchard Park played Buffalo exclusively the entire game

1764
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 1: with six or seven defensive backs. They played one snap

1765
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 1: of Nickel and never played anything less than six d

1766
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 1: backs other than that, So there are things that you

1767
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 1: can do to teams if you're gonna totally disrespect their

1768
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 1: running game. Not saying teams are doing that or think

1769
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 1: that a buffalo, but there are ways around that. If

1770
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 1: your running game is in absolute zero. Well, here's the thing,

1771
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 1: and we're gonna go to break right now, Mike Clay

1772
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 1: coming up at the top of the hour. We got

1773
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 1: one more quick segment before that happens, before we go

1774
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 1: to break. Here, I'll just say this about John. Yeah,

1775
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 1: the running game was good, Like Josh was the X factor,

1776
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:18,639
Speaker 1: and he was a big X factor two years ago,

1777
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 1: of course, and he's got this reputation for being a big, strong,

1778
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 1: really good athlete. I think at some point this offense

1779
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 1: would love to get to the point where Josh is

1780
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 1: not the X factor in the running game. You don't

1781
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 1: want him to have to do that like cut his

1782
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: runs in half or less. He doesn't need and you

1783
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 1: certainly and certainly he is a huge threat in the

1784
01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 1: red zone in the running game, which is a big

1785
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 1: plus for this team. But sooner or later, and maybe

1786
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 1: right as soon as he signs this contract extension whenever

1787
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 1: it happens. Maybe that's when you think, you know, he's

1788
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 1: too valuable. We've said that before, and they certainly he's

1789
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 1: certainly cut down on his attempt last year. Certainly they

1790
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 1: cut down on the called attempts, you know, the the

1791
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 1: deliberate quarterback runs. They cut down on it. But I think,

1792
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 1: you know, you're they're looking for a way to get

1793
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 1: this running game to a point where Josh doesn't have

1794
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 1: to be really involved that much because he's just too

1795
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 1: valuable as a thrower, and he's too valuable as a leader.

1796
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 1: He's too valuable as a quarterback to be used in

1797
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: that way. Certainly, you want the threat and all of that,

1798
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 1: but man, oh man, I think the time is coming

1799
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 1: for them to get an running game that evolved away

1800
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 1: from the quarterback being that big a threat. Certainly is

1801
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 1: a huge benefit to the offense rather than the DP,

1802
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 1: and it puts the defense in a bind. But isn't

1803
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:41,640
Speaker 1: he just a little bit too valuable to continue that,

1804
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:44,640
Speaker 1: especially like I said, in the red zone? You know,

1805
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 1: I mean how many times you know, the majority of

1806
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 1: those and you know our quarterback call runs are a

1807
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 1: lot of times from the two yard and end, and

1808
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 1: look the naked bootleg. Everybody's cool at that, but when

1809
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 1: we're watching against the Colts right here, I mean Josh

1810
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 1: is running like power off tackle plays. You know those

1811
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 1: are things you don't want quarterback doing all the time,

1812
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 1: right Steeve Tasker Thad Brown coming up after the break,

1813
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 1: Mike Clay, ESPN Fantasy Analyst. He's gonna come talk to

1814
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 1: us on One Bills Live. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

1815
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:24,719
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Those Lives. Tea Tasker Fat Brown

1816
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 1: in for the vacationing Chris Brown. That we've got the

1817
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:31,680
Speaker 1: Twitter poll going on. Do you find summer in summertime

1818
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 1: NFL rankings polls interesting or irrelevant? You and I have

1819
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 1: said we drink it up, like you know, like kool aid.

1820
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 1: A lot of people are kind of interesting. And if

1821
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 1: we got it, we'll go to the tweet sheet. Tweet

1822
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:48,679
Speaker 1: sheet brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems, the official

1823
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 1: equipment moving company of Buffalo Bills. From Rusty, he says,

1824
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see where the talking heads around the

1825
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 1: media think the Bills will fall. And it's nice to

1826
01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:00,040
Speaker 1: hear them say nice things about our boys, but I

1827
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 1: really don't care much about any other team. I think

1828
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 1: these rankings are largely hogwash. Nobody can predict the future.

1829
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 1: It's a fool's errand and I get that. I get that,

1830
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 1: and I think we're a lot that. I mean, for

1831
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 1: the first time in a long time, the Bills are

1832
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:16,599
Speaker 1: starting to be at the top of these rankings on

1833
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 1: the good side of it, and I think a lot

1834
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:21,560
Speaker 1: of people kind of enjoy sipping that in the offseason.

1835
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 1: Tiffany also says this, I think they have no relevance

1836
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 1: at this point. The league is ever changing from season

1837
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 1: to season. It's nice to form an opinion, but at

1838
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:33,639
Speaker 1: this point it's pure speculation. Most teams need the first

1839
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 1: four weeks of the regular season to round into a

1840
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 1: contender or a pretender, and I would agree with that

1841
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 1: as well. And let's face it, even when you talk

1842
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 1: about the schedule fad, we don't even know how good

1843
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 1: those teams and Bills are gonna play, are gonna be

1844
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: this year, you know, I mean, even the schedule and

1845
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,639
Speaker 1: the course, It's gonna be tough games, and there's gonna

1846
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 1: be some teams that improve and some teams that aren't

1847
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 1: quite up as good as they were a year ago.

1848
01:30:57,200 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 1: But I mean, right now, all of us, and I

1849
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 1: mean I would define to find one person who can't

1850
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 1: doesn't go down the list, who knows anything, or as

1851
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 1: a fan of any team, who doesn't go down and

1852
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 1: go okay, win win loss, win loss, win win when

1853
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:16,520
Speaker 1: things every week and they do it, you know everybody

1854
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 1: does that, so we all fall into the track. Remember

1855
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:23,559
Speaker 1: two years ago when the Bills made the playoffs, they

1856
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 1: play what we all thought was an easy schedule. They

1857
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 1: had the NFCAS which was terrible that year, and when

1858
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 1: we talked all season about all that's a that's a

1859
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 1: soft schedule. And then you look ahead to what the

1860
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 1: Bills did last year playing the NFC West, getting the Chiefs,

1861
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 1: you thought, oh, that that schedule is gonna be a bear, right,

1862
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 1: And while last year's schedule was harder, the Bills faced

1863
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:43,799
Speaker 1: five playoff teams in twenty nineteen, they faced five playoff

1864
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 1: teams in twenty twenty. So you don't know, you don't

1865
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 1: know what it's gonna be, like, how difficult it's gonna be.

1866
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 1: And look to what the two tweeters both said that

1867
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:55,639
Speaker 1: these rankings don't matter. Yeah, you gotta take the rankings

1868
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 1: for what they are. Though these rankings are not here

1869
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:00,640
Speaker 1: to predict the future. They are kind of here to

1870
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 1: assess where we're at right now. And I think the

1871
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 1: implication is, well, nothing has happened yet, so why do

1872
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:09,680
Speaker 1: we care. Well, things have happened. All these teams are

1873
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 1: different on paper than they were six months ago, then

1874
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 1: they were last time we saw them on a field,

1875
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:17,680
Speaker 1: So how are they now, at least on paper? And

1876
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 1: to me, I think that's very interesting. Yeah, I do too.

1877
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 1: I'm like you, and we're in the media. We do

1878
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 1: this all the time, so it's more important to you

1879
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 1: and I than it is any of our fans listening,

1880
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:28,639
Speaker 1: because we you know, we're paid to drink this stuff

1881
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 1: up like mama's milk, and we do so. All right,

1882
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna you can't apologize for it. I like it,

1883
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna do it. I do it for living,

1884
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:37,719
Speaker 1: so and that's why I do it for a living.

1885
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:40,719
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break though. Mike Clay from ESPN

1886
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 1: Fantasy is coming back to talk to us. He's managing

1887
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:46,680
Speaker 1: editor of Pro Football Focus and their fantasy stuff. He's

1888
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:48,639
Speaker 1: gonna come back and talk to us right right after

1889
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 1: the break. Steep Tasker that Brown or one Bills live

1890
01:32:50,800 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Add a Steve Tasker who

1891
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 1: has spent all all other fields. Kind of unique. He

1892
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Speaker 1: was kind of a dual role player for you, Steve,

1893
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Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the stratgyre of normalcy.

1894
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Lives, Chief Tasker Thad Brown.

1895
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Speaker 1: In a moment, We're gonna have Mike Clay from ESPN.

1896
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Speaker 1: He's an NFL analyst and fantasy football writer who appears

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Speaker 1: on ESPN Sports Center, NFL Live, Fantasy Football, in Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Football Now, and the Fantasy Focused Football Podcast. He's a

1899
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Speaker 1: member of the Pro Football Writers of America. And why

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Speaker 1: don't we just welcome him in now, Mike Clay, Steve Tasker,

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01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:49,760
Speaker 1: Thad Brown up here in Buffalo and Rochester. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: coming on and making a few minutes for us. How

1903
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:55,800
Speaker 1: you doing. I'm doing well, guys. Looking forward to a

1904
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:58,400
Speaker 1: little vacation coming up here, getting a little breather because

1905
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 1: training camps coming free Season's comment. It's about that time,

1906
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Speaker 1: fell us. Yeah, we've we've been We've been talking about it.

1907
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:07,559
Speaker 1: It's like we're on a skeleton crew here. I mean, everybody, now,

1908
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:10,479
Speaker 1: this is the month everybody's gonna leave now or it's forever.

1909
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 1: Hold your piece. You're you're locked in up until February, right,

1910
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Speaker 1: I mean so, And it's the same for you for

1911
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Speaker 1: the fantasy side of things as well. What do you got,

1912
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Speaker 1: What's what's front and center for you these days in

1913
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Speaker 1: that world? Yeah, so, um, I do the projections at ESPN,

1914
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Speaker 1: and you know a lot of the ranking work. You know,

1915
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Speaker 1: if you're in a draft on ESPN, there's an order

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Speaker 1: of players in there. I kind of sort those out too.

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Speaker 1: So I'm working on that now, getting everything set up

1918
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Speaker 1: before I go on vacation. So we have no issues

1919
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 1: making sure all the latest transactions, even the minor ones

1920
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Speaker 1: are covered. So that's all set to go over the

1921
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Speaker 1: next week or so. So working on that chip in away,

1922
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Speaker 1: just at Dynasty, Dynasty Ranking Update, stuff like that. Just

1923
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Speaker 1: file a whole bunch of NFL and fantasy content, so

1924
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Speaker 1: you'll see that on the site over the next few weeks.

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Speaker 1: I'll be on vacation, but it might not seem like

1926
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Speaker 1: it because there's gonna be content coming out while I'm gone.

1927
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 1: It's kind of a you know, a little a little

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01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:03,639
Speaker 1: cheat code there, so it looks like I'm working when

1929
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 1: I'm not Mike, I just want to say, first of all,

1930
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Speaker 1: your free agent cheat sheet that comes out every Want

1931
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 1: March or whatever in the sports office at my station.

1932
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Speaker 1: That is an instant print out and put up on

1933
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Speaker 1: every Bolton board. So a personal thank you to that

1934
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Speaker 1: for something that every year a handy guy to, you know,

1935
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Speaker 1: keep track of all that stuff that's going on. But

1936
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Speaker 1: looking ahead to this season, one of the things I

1937
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Speaker 1: was just looking at that is incredibly fascinating is the

1938
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver cornerback shadow breakdown, And right at the top

1939
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Speaker 1: of that cornerback shadow list is Tredavious White, who you know,

1940
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 1: obviously here in Buffalo is you know, revered for his

1941
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Speaker 1: abilities all pro and all that stuff. But when you

1942
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 1: look at him as a shadow, you know, as someone

1943
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Speaker 1: when I watch him, I don't think of him as

1944
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 1: the number one shadow guy in the league. And you know,

1945
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 1: the Bills play a lot of his own defense. They

1946
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 1: don't necessarily move a corner around as much. To me,

1947
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 1: it was a little surprising that Trdavious White ended up

1948
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:56,600
Speaker 1: at the top of that list. Yeah, so he does

1949
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 1: shot out quite a bit throughout his career, So you're right,

1950
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 1: it's not all the time, but there's very few corners

1951
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 1: in the NFL who every single week are shadowing, right.

1952
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:07,200
Speaker 1: You'll see a creative team like New England, for example,

1953
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 1: that's going to do that almost every single week, and

1954
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 1: they'll move Gilmore all over the place, and Jonathan Jones,

1955
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,599
Speaker 1: JC Jackson and the mccordy you know and Jason mccordy.

1956
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:18,600
Speaker 1: They they're very flexible with that kind of thing. But

1957
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Speaker 1: a lot of teams just have guys play side, just

1958
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:23,919
Speaker 1: purely play their sides all of the time. But Buffalo

1959
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 1: does a bit of both. And if I had to

1960
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Speaker 1: say which way do they lean, it's usually towards shadowing.

1961
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Speaker 1: The number one with Turdabus, why you see that quite

1962
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 1: a bit, doesn't go to the slot very often, so

1963
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Speaker 1: it's usually the perimeter. It's you know, guys like Preston

1964
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:37,759
Speaker 1: Williams in Miami last year, a J. Brown in Tennessee,

1965
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 1: he shouted him almost the whole game. They put him

1966
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:41,760
Speaker 1: on Travis Kelsey, which you don't you know, actually do

1967
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 1: not see teams but their number one corner on a

1968
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 1: tight end. They did with Travis Kelsey in weeks six

1969
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 1: last season when he was on the perimeter, not when

1970
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 1: he was inside, and there was an he didn't do

1971
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:53,240
Speaker 1: it a lot in the second half of the season

1972
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 1: until the playoffs. They had him on Hollywood Brown in

1973
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 1: the Baltimore game, and then again they had him on

1974
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 1: Kelsey on the perimeter routes again in that Chiefs game.

1975
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 1: So again it's it's last year. Is probably like more

1976
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 1: like fifty fifty earlier in his career, you know, like

1977
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:08,000
Speaker 1: late I remember late in twenty nineteen, like the whole

1978
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 1: second half you get shadowing. So it's been on and off.

1979
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Speaker 1: But the guy has the talent, he is the ability,

1980
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:14,320
Speaker 1: is one of the best corners in the league, and

1981
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 1: relative to other corners he is, you know, he shadows

1982
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 1: quite a bit. And how much because I'm I'm not

1983
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 1: I'm not a big fantasy football guy, and I want

1984
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 1: to know because you pick defenses and you know, you

1985
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 1: kind of want to highly rank defense and that kind

1986
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 1: of thing, And why is it the corners are your

1987
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 1: go to stat I mean it's you know, what pass

1988
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 1: rush would be a difference maker? And how difficult is

1989
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:39,719
Speaker 1: it and how relevant can it be to pick one group,

1990
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Speaker 1: like a one position group on a defense when you're

1991
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:47,720
Speaker 1: trying to you know, gauge the entire defense. Well, look,

1992
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Speaker 1: as you guys know, and of just evaluating NFL players

1993
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Speaker 1: not there's not one stat that covers everything, right, So

1994
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Speaker 1: that's kind of my answer here, right, this is just

1995
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Speaker 1: one part of a ton of analysis, and it's this

1996
01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:02,360
Speaker 1: just comes down to what the coverage, what the scheme,

1997
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 1: and what the personnel of the defense means to the

1998
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:08,479
Speaker 1: wide receivers or again occasionally the tight end. What does

1999
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:10,600
Speaker 1: it mean for them? How can we value them? How

2000
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:12,640
Speaker 1: should we on a weech week basis. Obviously it's a

2001
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 1: it's a much bigger deal should we downgrade a player

2002
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 1: because they're playing Buffalo and we do expect one on

2003
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 1: ones with Tridevious White on sixty seventy percent of his routes,

2004
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 1: that matters, right, that's a big deal that that makes

2005
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:25,600
Speaker 1: a big difference if you're going to be covered by

2006
01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 1: him or one of the lesser corners or lesser secondaries,

2007
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 1: like as if you were if you're playing Detroit for example,

2008
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:34,120
Speaker 1: last season, big difference between facing Tredevious White and facing

2009
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 1: what Detroit was thrown out there in the secondary. So

2010
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:39,680
Speaker 1: that's why it's important. Again, it's very important on a

2011
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 1: week to week basis. But um, you know, as you

2012
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:44,680
Speaker 1: kind of pointed out, I just had this article up

2013
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 1: and I looked at it for the whole season, you know,

2014
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:49,120
Speaker 1: and again you don't want to get too caught up

2015
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 1: at it because things change, Guys get hurt. We you know,

2016
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:53,880
Speaker 1: we miss on players, we're wrong, we're right, there's transactions,

2017
01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 1: so forth and so on. But you know, as we

2018
01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:59,599
Speaker 1: saw last year, you know, you kind of can get

2019
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:02,160
Speaker 1: into the right department, right you can kind of find out, Okay,

2020
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 1: this this team has a really tough situation. They don't

2021
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 1: really have any standout players. Maybe stay away from them

2022
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 1: this year, And it kind of plays out that that

2023
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:10,720
Speaker 1: way because you know, at the end of the day,

2024
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:13,720
Speaker 1: six of your games are coming against division rivals, and

2025
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 1: if that team's loaded with good secondaries or vice versas

2026
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 1: bad secondaries, you can kind of move the needle and

2027
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:21,320
Speaker 1: it seems to work out pretty well in terms of

2028
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 1: analysis for the full season. Yeah. I like reading them, Mike,

2029
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 1: because it was a nice way to look at a

2030
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:28,760
Speaker 1: receiver group versus a defensive backgroup and say, you know what,

2031
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, these guys are gonna face the top defensive

2032
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 1: backs or these guys won't. You know, as someone who's

2033
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 1: thinking about keeping Terry McLaurin on a fantasy team this year,

2034
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 1: seeing him in the easy cornerback group certainly encouraged me

2035
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 1: to think, well, that's a guy you know, I might

2036
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 1: want to hold on to. But moving over to an

2037
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 1: an article you wrote about which teams have most likely

2038
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna put out three receivers, the Bills were number

2039
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:50,880
Speaker 1: one for the second year in a row, and I

2040
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:53,360
Speaker 1: think going into this year we expect that last year.

2041
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:55,679
Speaker 1: I'm impressed that you you know, able to see that coming.

2042
01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 1: But I think from a fantasy point of view, if

2043
01:39:58,280 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 1: the Bills are going to be the number one fe

2044
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,799
Speaker 1: receiver team in the league, are you endorsing Emmanuel Sanders

2045
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 1: is a late round idea if you're trying to, you know,

2046
01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 1: fill out your receiver depth chart this year. Well, look,

2047
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm okay with the late round flyer on Sanders, I am,

2048
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:15,640
Speaker 1: but remember he's thirty four years old right now, and

2049
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 1: I do expect him to kind of rotate with Gabriel

2050
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 1: Davis right like. Look, the Bills last season were number

2051
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:23,559
Speaker 1: one in three wide receiver sets the ninety four percent

2052
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 1: of the time they at least three receivers on the

2053
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 1: field when they were throwing. They were also second and

2054
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 1: four wide receiver sets, but that was only seventeen percent, right,

2055
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, you're usually gonna

2056
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:35,560
Speaker 1: have three out there in this Buffalo offense, and we

2057
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:37,560
Speaker 1: know it's gonna be digs. We know they're gonna have

2058
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley in the slot, which, again, if there's three

2059
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 1: receivers on the field, he's gonna be in there. And

2060
01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 1: then it comes down to who the third guy is.

2061
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:47,519
Speaker 1: And I think Gabriel Davis did enough last year that

2062
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 1: you have to work him in. You have to keep

2063
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:50,560
Speaker 1: him busy, right he was top I think he was

2064
01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:53,840
Speaker 1: top thirty five and in snaps among wide receivers last season,

2065
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 1: and that was with John Brown there. Obviously he missed

2066
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:58,800
Speaker 1: time with the injuries. But nonetheless you're gonna have to

2067
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:01,639
Speaker 1: find a way to keep all four guys in busy,

2068
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 1: get them targets, and I think they'll find a way

2069
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:06,639
Speaker 1: to do that. So, you know, if we're talking fantasy,

2070
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:09,559
Speaker 1: Diggs is obviously far and away the number one option here.

2071
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:12,640
Speaker 1: Coleby easily probably underrated as usual in drafts. You know,

2072
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:15,759
Speaker 1: could perhaps be a flex option in your fantasy leagues,

2073
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 1: and then late in your draft that's when you take

2074
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 1: flyers on Davis and Sanders personally, guys, I'm gonna take Davis.

2075
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with more upside, a guy that could

2076
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:25,800
Speaker 1: develop in his second season, maybe take another step forward

2077
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 1: and perhaps says there's a higher ceiling than a guy

2078
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 1: who's now thirty four and probably more of a situational

2079
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 1: player at this point, an asset for the team, don't

2080
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 1: get me wrong, but from a fantasy perspective, you know,

2081
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:37,920
Speaker 1: and probably lacks them upside. I know we see it

2082
01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 1: a lot here in Buffalo that you said they were

2083
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 1: number two in the league at four wide receivers sets.

2084
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 1: Do you see a trend, albeit maybe a slow trend,

2085
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:47,679
Speaker 1: that more and more teams are going to run four wides?

2086
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 1: Because every year we see another elite class of wide

2087
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 1: receivers pop out, colleges churn and good wide receivers out

2088
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:58,640
Speaker 1: at an alarming rate. Do those guys find their way

2089
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:01,679
Speaker 1: on the field more and four wide receiver sets coming

2090
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:06,680
Speaker 1: in in the coming years. You know, the pushback I'd

2091
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 1: give you on that is that you also have a

2092
01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:10,160
Speaker 1: lot of tight ends coming and the average age of

2093
01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:14,040
Speaker 1: impact tight ends in terms of pass catching is down right,

2094
01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 1: which is good, right, It's I think the average last

2095
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:19,160
Speaker 1: year of like the top twenty tight ends in terms

2096
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:21,640
Speaker 1: of Fantasy points was like twenty six, whereas it was

2097
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:23,559
Speaker 1: twenty a couple of years ago. Now, generally it's going

2098
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:26,599
Speaker 1: to be up and down depending on how guy's age. Obviously,

2099
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:28,640
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey's been number one five years in a row,

2100
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 1: and he keeps getting older, so it's gonna bump the

2101
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 1: age up. But you are seeing an injection of youth

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Speaker 1: to that position with Noah Fant, t J. Hawkinson, Dallas Goddard.

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01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 1: Of course Kyle Pitts this season coming in, so I

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01:42:39,479 --> 01:42:41,599
Speaker 1: think that's going to keep tight ends involved as well.

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01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 1: You're also seeing a lot of teams happy with their

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01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 1: running back situation, right, so they're trying to find ways

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01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:49,240
Speaker 1: to get two running backs onto the field. Right. You

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01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 1: think about a team like the Raiders, who had Josh Jacobs,

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01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:54,599
Speaker 1: who's been a standout since he since he was picked

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01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:56,080
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. They go out and signed

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01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake, right, so they want to utilize him at

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01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:01,320
Speaker 1: wide receiver and mix him in, so you know, the

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01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:04,840
Speaker 1: fullback's pretty much gone right, we've we've kind of reached

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01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 1: that point where over the past decade fifteen years, we've

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01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:10,120
Speaker 1: seen this upswing and three and four wide receiver sets,

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01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 1: and the two running back sets have dropped with fullbacks

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01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 1: off the field. But it's kind of leveled off, right.

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01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 1: If you look at three wide receiver sets over the

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01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 1: past five years, it's pretty much leveled off anywhere from

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Speaker 1: say seventy three to seventy five percent, and four wide

2121
01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:23,479
Speaker 1: it's pretty much the same thing, right. The NFL averages

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01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:25,519
Speaker 1: three to four percent, and that's been the case for

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01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 1: five to six seventy eight years, somewhere in that range.

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Speaker 1: So actually, no, I don't think we'll see more four

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01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:32,760
Speaker 1: wide wide receiver sets, and if we do, it'll just

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01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 1: be slight. Mica. The run on Twitter lately for a

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01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:40,320
Speaker 1: lot of you Fantasy mainstays and maybe for you know,

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01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:43,600
Speaker 1: the general public is the hashtag SFB eleven at a

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Speaker 1: draft that's going on. Now. I'm a little familiar with this,

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01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:50,240
Speaker 1: but it seems fascinating all you guys are dialed into it.

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01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:52,200
Speaker 1: Can you explain what that is and why it seems

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01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 1: like every fantasy expert I follow is a part of

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01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:58,400
Speaker 1: this draft. Yeah, so that's It's a Scotch fish Bowl,

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01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:00,040
Speaker 1: is what it's called. It's in it's eleventh year, and

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01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 1: it's just a huge industry wide tournament. It's people from

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01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:07,040
Speaker 1: the industry, it's people that kind of apply to join.

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01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 1: There's some celebrities, former athletes, that kind of thing, and

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01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 1: it's just a ton of twelve teen leagues up to

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01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:16,160
Speaker 1: about a two thousand people and we all compete for

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01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 1: the whole season to see what comes out on top.

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01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 1: So I gotta pat myself on the back. I won

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01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 1: the first one ever eleven years ago, back when I

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01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:26,160
Speaker 1: was much much younger. We're now in the eleventh year,

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01:44:26,280 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 1: and yeah, you know what, it's one of them weird

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01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 1: things where we're all talking about it, right, and to

2146
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:32,840
Speaker 1: the casual player, it really doesn't mean much, right because

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01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 1: it's such a unique format. We're doing kind of crazy things.

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01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:39,280
Speaker 1: But guys, the goal is charity. We're raising money out here,

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01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:41,760
Speaker 1: and that's why you see so much about it. It's

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01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:44,280
Speaker 1: just one of the most positive things in the industry

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01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:47,360
Speaker 1: right now. So any opportunity you have to push the

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01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:50,719
Speaker 1: content is great because it's just it's making money for charity,

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01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:52,880
Speaker 1: and that's what's most important. So st shout out to

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01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:56,280
Speaker 1: Scott fish SFB is a Scott Fish Bowl. He runs

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01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:58,479
Speaker 1: the show and he's just done a tremendous job. He's

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01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:00,680
Speaker 1: just a great person and it's been fun to be

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01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:02,560
Speaker 1: part of over the past eleven years. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: one Bill's Live. We're talking to Mike Clay ESPN Fantasy

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01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 1: analyst Mike. Offseason transactions, teams, draft classes, all these changes

2160
01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:15,759
Speaker 1: that happened that, you know, make it impossible to predict

2161
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 1: how these teams are gonna go. Which teams do you

2162
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 1: think got better at their wide receiver spot, and unbelievably,

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01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 1: who got worse. I mean, most of these teams will

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01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:28,640
Speaker 1: try to spend everything positive in this offseason order to

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01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 1: sell tickets if nothing else, but everybody tries to get

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01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 1: better every offseason. Which teams did it as far as

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01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:38,760
Speaker 1: their wide receivers go, and which teams did not. Yeah,

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01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:40,519
Speaker 1: So if you're looking at the top units in the

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01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:43,360
Speaker 1: NFL right now, like Tampa, Dallas, Pittsburgh, they pretty much

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01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 1: stayed the same, right so, Eric, Tampa, Dallas Pittsburgh would

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01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:50,479
Speaker 1: be another one teams that improved that kind of joined

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01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:52,880
Speaker 1: that conversation. I would say Cincinnati. Right, anytime you spend

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01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:55,000
Speaker 1: a top five picked on a wide receiver, as he

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01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:57,040
Speaker 1: did with Jamar Chase, you put him with Tyler Boyd

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01:45:57,080 --> 01:46:00,400
Speaker 1: and t Higgins, that's a big improvement for them. Tennessee

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01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:02,600
Speaker 1: looked like they would be a big faller after they

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01:46:02,680 --> 01:46:05,479
Speaker 1: lost Corey Davis and Adam Humphries. But you go get

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01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:08,439
Speaker 1: yourself some Julio Jones and suddenly you're looking pretty good

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01:46:08,439 --> 01:46:09,960
Speaker 1: there with one of the better one two punches in

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01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 1: the NFL. Miami a big riser for sure. You'd signed

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01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:17,200
Speaker 1: Will Fuller, you drafted Jail and Waddle, so they have

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01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 1: a ton of depth and a ton of top end

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01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:23,559
Speaker 1: talent there, you know it. Actually, you know, Buffalo could

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01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:24,840
Speaker 1: have been a team that fell a little bit with

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01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 1: John Brown leaving, but they bring in Sanders to go

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01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 1: with a second year Gabriel Davis, so they kind of

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01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:31,760
Speaker 1: hanging there. Actually, at them ranks seventh seventh best unit

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. So those are some of the top

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01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 1: teams in the league. On the other hand, you know,

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01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:38,439
Speaker 1: Detroit is the one that jumps out, guys. I mean

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01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:42,080
Speaker 1: it was rough, you know, when you lose Kenny Galladay,

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01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:46,120
Speaker 1: Marvin Jones, Danny m and Dola. Even Mohammed Sanu was

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01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:48,160
Speaker 1: running as one of their top guys last year. All

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01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:50,360
Speaker 1: of those guys are gone, so they're going with guys

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01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:54,160
Speaker 1: that had pretty much been on ir or depth receivers

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01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:56,799
Speaker 1: for years now. Is their top guys for Sean Perriman,

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01:46:56,880 --> 01:47:00,960
Speaker 1: Tyroll Williams missed all last season. I'm Mon Ross, Saint Brown, Equanimius,

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01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 1: Saint Brown's brother. They drafted him in the fourth round.

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01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:05,080
Speaker 1: Those are the kind of guys are gonna be running

2200
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:09,200
Speaker 1: outcome Week one. So good luck to Jared Goff there,

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01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:12,320
Speaker 1: but their team definitely fell for sure. I guess Houston

2202
01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 1: will throw in there right they lose. Will Fuller is

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01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 1: an interesting one there for sure. So a lot of

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01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 1: talent at the position you mentioned earlier, lots of it's

2205
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:22,360
Speaker 1: really hard to pick apart too many of these units

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01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:26,599
Speaker 1: guys because there's been so many high pedigree receivers drafted

2207
01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:28,720
Speaker 1: the past couple of years on Day one and Day two,

2208
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:30,479
Speaker 1: and it's just filling up the league, and it's just

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be really exciting to watch passing games continue

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01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 1: to evolve with all this talent. What about the AFCAS,

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01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:39,599
Speaker 1: the Patriots, the Jets, the Dolphins. Give us a quick thumber.

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01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 1: You mentioned the Dolphins that they got a lot better,

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01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:43,960
Speaker 1: and that seems obvious at least at first blush. What

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01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:47,120
Speaker 1: about the Patriots and the Jets. Yeah, so I have

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01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:50,200
Speaker 1: Dolphins six to Bill seven. I have the Jets at nineteenth. There.

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01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:52,160
Speaker 1: That's actually a good point. Their team that got better,

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01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:55,880
Speaker 1: still a lot to prove, right, You have Corey Davis,

2218
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:58,840
Speaker 1: who you know, is he a number one? You know,

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01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 1: we'll find out. You know, the efficiency wasn't there when

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01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:04,000
Speaker 1: he was running as the one in Fort Tennessee. They

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01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:06,400
Speaker 1: ended up drafting AJ Brown and he kind of took

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01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 1: control of that, so we'll see if he gets a

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01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 1: job done. Elijah Moore. All indications are this guy's going

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01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:13,479
Speaker 1: to be a future star. Second round picked this season,

2225
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 1: so that's good, but again, he stilts to prove it

2226
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:18,439
Speaker 1: come game time. Jamison Crowder, Denzel Mims, Keel and Cole

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01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:20,760
Speaker 1: If you're talking five deep at receiver, they're one of

2228
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 1: the best in the business, much like the Bills are.

2229
01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:25,400
Speaker 1: And then the Patriots guys, I have them still ranked

2230
01:48:25,439 --> 01:48:26,960
Speaker 1: thirty first. I mean, they are one of the weaker

2231
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:30,759
Speaker 1: teams at that spot. Nelson Aguilar's a guy they signed

2232
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:32,760
Speaker 1: away from the Raiders. He kind of emerged as their

2233
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:35,479
Speaker 1: number one last year, but obviously he was very much

2234
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:38,200
Speaker 1: up and down during his time in Philadelphia. They've Jacoby Myers,

2235
01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:42,160
Speaker 1: who's their de facto Julian Edelman replacement member Edelman's retired now.

2236
01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:45,559
Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne was basically the fourth stringer for the forty

2237
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 1: nine ers. He's up there and could run as high

2238
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:50,080
Speaker 1: as number two on the depth chart. Kiel Harry would

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01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 1: be there number four. As we know, he's asked for

2240
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Speaker 1: a trade. So the Patriots still weak at that spot.

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01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:57,360
Speaker 1: But I have you know, we just talked about three

2242
01:48:57,439 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 1: wide receiver set projections for next season. I have the tree.

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01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:02,519
Speaker 1: It's I think thirtieth or twenty ninth on that list

2244
01:49:02,920 --> 01:49:04,839
Speaker 1: because I think they'll run a ton of twelve personnel.

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01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:06,360
Speaker 1: They didn't do it at all last year. They'll do

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01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:08,639
Speaker 1: it a lot this year. After they assigned John who

2247
01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:11,439
Speaker 1: Smith and Hunter Henry, so two really good tight ends.

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01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:13,439
Speaker 1: Expect to see a lot of that when the Patriots

2249
01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:15,719
Speaker 1: are on the schedule. You know, Mike, you talk about

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01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 1: how much talent there is a receiver tight end when

2251
01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:21,280
Speaker 1: it comes to fantasy situations is almost the opposite. If

2252
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:23,920
Speaker 1: you don't have you know, Waller, Kelsey Kittle or Andrews,

2253
01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:26,439
Speaker 1: it's almost a you know, a crapshoot out there is

2254
01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:29,280
Speaker 1: there a guy that maybe you look at that might

2255
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:32,719
Speaker 1: be able to take the leap in that elite category

2256
01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 1: this season. And one guy I want to point out,

2257
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 1: whether you think he's the possibility or not, is a

2258
01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:40,479
Speaker 1: former Buffalo Bill Logan Thomas, who when he was in Buffalo,

2259
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:43,040
Speaker 1: he's a converted quarterback. You're wondering how this guy ever

2260
01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:45,479
Speaker 1: becomes effective and in the old behold last year he

2261
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:50,160
Speaker 1: had a pretty respectable fantasy season at tight end for Washington. Yeah,

2262
01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:52,680
Speaker 1: and I actually just wrote an entire article like eight

2263
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:55,439
Speaker 1: hundred nine hundred words something like that, just on Logan

2264
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:58,160
Speaker 1: Thomas because I feel like right now he's maybe the

2265
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:01,000
Speaker 1: most undervalued player in fantasy drafts at this point in

2266
01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:03,840
Speaker 1: the off season. So one with you, I think he

2267
01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:07,400
Speaker 1: could join that conversation. One year ago, I feel like

2268
01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:10,559
Speaker 1: we were having the same conversations about about Darren Waller

2269
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:13,200
Speaker 1: that we're having about Thomas now, and it was okay, yeah,

2270
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:15,960
Speaker 1: he came out of nowhere, had this breakout year, but

2271
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:19,559
Speaker 1: they added Henry Ruggs and Nelson Agilare and Brian Edwards

2272
01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:21,519
Speaker 1: in the third round. There's just two. All the targets

2273
01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 1: are going there. He's not gonna He's gonna see a

2274
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:26,800
Speaker 1: big drop and it's just not gonna work out in fantasy. Well,

2275
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, the cream rises to the top. He was

2276
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:33,120
Speaker 1: their best offensive target for sure. He showed that and obviously,

2277
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:35,560
Speaker 1: had he had an even better season, I think that

2278
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 1: could be the case here for Thomas. I mean, think

2279
01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:40,360
Speaker 1: about it. Last year, he was the number three scoring

2280
01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:44,120
Speaker 1: fantasy tight end, right, he had four He had a

2281
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:47,160
Speaker 1: top ten fantasy with with four different quarterbacks, and guys,

2282
01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 1: none of those four quarterbacks are projected starters this season. Right,

2283
01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:54,679
Speaker 1: We're talking Alex Smith and Dwayne Haskins, Kyle Allen and honestly,

2284
01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:56,760
Speaker 1: I'm toronto blank on the fourth one at this point.

2285
01:50:56,840 --> 01:51:01,280
Speaker 1: So it was it was rough quarterback. Well, what was that? Heinick?

2286
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:04,439
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, doesn't That's it? That's it? Yep, yep,

2287
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 1: Taylor Heinick. You get the point. So nonetheless, he goes

2288
01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:09,880
Speaker 1: to Ryan Fitzpatrick. I think he'll his targets could come

2289
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:11,400
Speaker 1: down a little bit when they had you know, they

2290
01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:14,920
Speaker 1: had a Curtis Samuel. They added Adam hump Frieze, Diami Brown. Fine,

2291
01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:18,080
Speaker 1: but Thomas his targets had come down a little bit more.

2292
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:20,519
Speaker 1: If he gets more vertical work with Ryan Fitzpatrick there

2293
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:23,400
Speaker 1: yolo fits, he'll chuck it down field to you. If

2294
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:26,960
Speaker 1: he gets more big plays and touchdowns, he'll he'll carry

2295
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:30,360
Speaker 1: plenty of fantasy volume. So I do fantasy production, So

2296
01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think Thomas can make that leap

2297
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:35,439
Speaker 1: into the elite this season, and he's very undervalued right now.

2298
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:37,200
Speaker 1: When you talk about the running back position of how

2299
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:39,160
Speaker 1: it has been devalued in football, you know over the

2300
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:41,720
Speaker 1: last decade, decade and a half, whatever, however far back

2301
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:43,559
Speaker 1: you want to go, what are some running backs coming

2302
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 1: up this year? Certainly, um, you know sae Quon Barkley

2303
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:50,000
Speaker 1: will be back in the mix. Uh, you know McCaffrey

2304
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:51,920
Speaker 1: will be back in the mix. Who are the running

2305
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:53,600
Speaker 1: backs that you were looking at that are gonna be like,

2306
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:57,720
Speaker 1: probably can't miss guys, and some that some people are

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01:51:57,800 --> 01:51:59,479
Speaker 1: high on that you may not be. Give me a

2308
01:51:59,560 --> 01:52:03,439
Speaker 1: probably you can't miss and I probably will miss. Yeah,

2309
01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:05,679
Speaker 1: a good question. How about we stick with the Washington

2310
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:08,400
Speaker 1: theme because you know, the you just mentioned some of

2311
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:10,400
Speaker 1: the obvious first guys off the board, but I think

2312
01:52:10,439 --> 01:52:12,599
Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson's gonna be one of those guys that joins

2313
01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:17,040
Speaker 1: at MIX this season. Gibson was terrific last season. But

2314
01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:18,960
Speaker 1: this is a guy that came into the NFL in

2315
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:22,919
Speaker 1: the third round and had about thirty five career carries

2316
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 1: in college. Okay, so we thought, okay, maybe this guy

2317
01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:29,840
Speaker 1: plays receiver. You know, they had a receiver depth problems

2318
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 1: last year in Washington. Obviously they addressed at this offseason.

2319
01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:34,400
Speaker 1: But no, they decided, Okay, this guy's gonna be a

2320
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:36,360
Speaker 1: running back, and not only that, he's going to be

2321
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:39,599
Speaker 1: our primary ball carrier, not our primary pass catcher because

2322
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:42,120
Speaker 1: he has the wide receiver background ball carrier. So he

2323
01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:44,640
Speaker 1: was super efficient on the ground. He scored a ton

2324
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:47,800
Speaker 1: of touchdowns on the ground, and he did we have

2325
01:52:47,960 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 1: not seen his ceiling as a pass catcher. You know,

2326
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:52,639
Speaker 1: he saw about a nine ten percent target share. There's

2327
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:55,200
Speaker 1: room for growth there, especially after Janie mckiszock was top

2328
01:52:55,240 --> 01:52:58,200
Speaker 1: five and targets, catches, yardage, all that among running backs

2329
01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:00,760
Speaker 1: last season. So I think Gibson in the second round

2330
01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:02,679
Speaker 1: is a great guy. To look at. You're not drafting

2331
01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:04,679
Speaker 1: him at his ceiling At that point, I think there's

2332
01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:07,800
Speaker 1: still more to be seen from Antonio Gibson, So I

2333
01:53:07,960 --> 01:53:10,720
Speaker 1: like him a lot. On the other hand, you know,

2334
01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:14,799
Speaker 1: I still think people are reaching too far on James Robinson.

2335
01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:17,559
Speaker 1: He was the number seven scoring running back last season.

2336
01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:19,360
Speaker 1: Actually missed action later or he would have done an

2337
01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:23,920
Speaker 1: done even better. Undrafted free agent last year, great story

2338
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:27,400
Speaker 1: steps in and was tremendous for Jacksonville. But teams don't

2339
01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:29,439
Speaker 1: spend a first round pick on our running back for

2340
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 1: him to chill out on the sidelines, right. I mean,

2341
01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:33,680
Speaker 1: Travis Etn is going to play a big role. He

2342
01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:36,400
Speaker 1: was arguably the best prospect in this class at that position,

2343
01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:39,160
Speaker 1: and even if he starts out purely in a passing

2344
01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:41,600
Speaker 1: game role with a few carries, his role is just

2345
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:43,960
Speaker 1: going to increase as the year goes on. Right, So

2346
01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:47,840
Speaker 1: he's going in about the fifth round right now. Sometimes

2347
01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:49,720
Speaker 1: you see him go in the fourth round. Robinson is

2348
01:53:50,120 --> 01:53:52,320
Speaker 1: I think that's living too much in twenty twenty, It's

2349
01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:55,040
Speaker 1: just gonna be hard for him to be a consistent

2350
01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:58,479
Speaker 1: RB one or RB two with Etn in the mix.

2351
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:00,559
Speaker 1: There Not to mention a rookie quarterback and a lot

2352
01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:03,519
Speaker 1: of mouse defeat suddenly a wide receiver. So those are

2353
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:05,640
Speaker 1: two guys I would say, you know, Gibson higher on,

2354
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:08,719
Speaker 1: Robinson lower on. You know, Mike. You started this interview

2355
01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:10,160
Speaker 1: by saying that one of the last things you have

2356
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:12,960
Speaker 1: to do before vacation is set up the entirety of

2357
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:15,880
Speaker 1: the ESPN Fantasy rankings before you're ready to go. And

2358
01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:17,960
Speaker 1: I will admit, as someone who's been on those sites,

2359
01:54:18,240 --> 01:54:19,880
Speaker 1: I have wondered what it's like to do that job.

2360
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:23,400
Speaker 1: You know, we're having to rank Keelan Cole versus Hayden

2361
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:28,000
Speaker 1: Hurst versus Salvin Akhmed. I mean to me, it sounds tedious.

2362
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:30,280
Speaker 1: As much as I love football and fantasy football, What

2363
01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:32,880
Speaker 1: is it like? And what kind of person you know

2364
01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:35,120
Speaker 1: ends up in a job like yours? Like? What what

2365
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:37,480
Speaker 1: kind of interests or abilities you know when you end

2366
01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:42,840
Speaker 1: up doing this hardcore, detailed fantasy type role. Yeah, lifelong nerd.

2367
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:45,560
Speaker 1: That's what I didn't want to say it. I didn't

2368
01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:48,000
Speaker 1: want to say it. I'll say it. I'll say it.

2369
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:51,040
Speaker 1: I'll uh yeah, there's nothing wrong, nothing wrong with that. Look,

2370
01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:53,040
Speaker 1: it's sports has been a hobby since I was a kid.

2371
01:54:53,120 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 1: Whether it was playing everything terribly. You know, I spent

2372
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 1: a lot of times on the bench. I was always

2373
01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:59,000
Speaker 1: under size and just couldn't really stack up, and I

2374
01:54:59,080 --> 01:55:01,080
Speaker 1: loved I had passion for it. I played everything. I

2375
01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:03,320
Speaker 1: raised go cards, I played basketball, football, you know, you

2376
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:05,320
Speaker 1: name it. And when I was at home then I

2377
01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:07,600
Speaker 1: was reading stats and reading the paper and reading books

2378
01:55:07,640 --> 01:55:09,680
Speaker 1: and watching games and traveling to games. I was got

2379
01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:12,480
Speaker 1: at teams almost like every other weekend growing up. But

2380
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:15,240
Speaker 1: there was Baltimore, Philly, New York, you name it. So

2381
01:55:15,680 --> 01:55:18,440
Speaker 1: it was just passion for sports really and then you know,

2382
01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:22,160
Speaker 1: I got a business degree, got really into football. You know,

2383
01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:26,240
Speaker 1: at that point, twelve thirteen years ago, analytics wasn't much

2384
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:28,200
Speaker 1: of a thing with NFL, and I got really into

2385
01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:31,760
Speaker 1: that and started creating my own projections, and I eventually

2386
01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:33,680
Speaker 1: worked my way to Pro Football Focus. I spent some

2387
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:37,240
Speaker 1: time there, started their fantasy section and helped help with

2388
01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:39,640
Speaker 1: their growth. So it was awesome to be part of

2389
01:55:39,720 --> 01:55:41,480
Speaker 1: that with all the new data they had there, and

2390
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 1: it's kind of just grown from there. You know, I

2391
01:55:43,080 --> 01:55:47,879
Speaker 1: have a projection model. I'm constantly studying. I'm constantly ranking

2392
01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:51,520
Speaker 1: and grading players and everything I could possibly do to

2393
01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:54,640
Speaker 1: have an all inclusive understanding of the NFL, and as

2394
01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:56,800
Speaker 1: you guys know, that's impossible. But you know, the all

2395
01:55:56,840 --> 01:55:58,680
Speaker 1: you can do is work all offseason long and try

2396
01:55:58,720 --> 01:56:00,640
Speaker 1: to soak up as much as you can and then

2397
01:56:00,920 --> 01:56:03,120
Speaker 1: you can rank fullbacks, you can rank punters, you can

2398
01:56:03,200 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 1: you can really do it all, guys. So it's it's

2399
01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 1: a fun job. I really can can't ask for much more. So,

2400
01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:09,760
Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun. Well, thanks a lot for

2401
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:12,120
Speaker 1: sharing your expertise with us today, Mike. We hope to

2402
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:14,280
Speaker 1: have you on soon as when the season comes into

2403
01:56:14,320 --> 01:56:16,200
Speaker 1: sharper focus, when we get a better handle on who

2404
01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:17,880
Speaker 1: and what we're dealing with, we man have you back on.

2405
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:21,000
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Let's do it, guys. Have a good one.

2406
01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:24,400
Speaker 1: Mike Clay ESPN NFL analysts and fantasy football writer. He

2407
01:56:24,440 --> 01:56:28,960
Speaker 1: appears on ESPN Sports Center, NFL Live, NFL Fantasy Football Now,

2408
01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:32,120
Speaker 1: and the Fantasy Focused Football Podcast. He's also a member

2409
01:56:32,160 --> 01:56:34,400
Speaker 1: of the Pro Football Writers of America. Steve Tasker, Thad

2410
01:56:34,440 --> 01:56:37,560
Speaker 1: Brown coming along right after the break. The NFL got

2411
01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:40,920
Speaker 1: a little bit of a kick to the chin punch

2412
01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 1: to the face in the latest litigations with the City

2413
01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:45,440
Speaker 1: of Saint Louis. We'll talk about that when we come back.

2414
01:56:45,480 --> 01:56:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live

2415
01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:54,760
Speaker 1: step tasker Sad Brown. We just got off the phone

2416
01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:58,840
Speaker 1: with Mike Clay ESPN NFL fantasy analysts. He's fantasy football writer.

2417
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:02,160
Speaker 1: He appears on Sports Center NFL. I've talked about fantasy

2418
01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:05,560
Speaker 1: football and the ramifications and projections about who's going to

2419
01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:07,040
Speaker 1: be really good, who's going to be really bad. A

2420
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:09,200
Speaker 1: lot of not too much going on around the National

2421
01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:11,720
Speaker 1: Football League at this point, but something that came up

2422
01:57:12,160 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 1: over the last couple of days is for those of

2423
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:16,160
Speaker 1: you who don't know, and I didn't know this, there's

2424
01:57:16,160 --> 01:57:19,520
Speaker 1: a massive lawsuit filed against the National Football League by

2425
01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:21,920
Speaker 1: the city of Saint Louis, and for obvious reasons, the Rams,

2426
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 1: the Saint Louis Rams moved to LA and some of

2427
01:57:25,080 --> 01:57:28,440
Speaker 1: the inner workings that happened during that the city took

2428
01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:31,360
Speaker 1: issue with whether it's breach. I have no idea the

2429
01:57:31,440 --> 01:57:35,760
Speaker 1: specifics of the contract of the lawsuit and what the

2430
01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:41,680
Speaker 1: NFL is being accused of doing wrong, But as a

2431
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:46,200
Speaker 1: judge in Saint Louis, or yes, a judge in Saint

2432
01:57:46,280 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 1: Louis has ruled that, as a result of this litigation,

2433
01:57:53,640 --> 01:57:58,600
Speaker 1: that Roger Goodell and five NFL owners would be Stan Crunky,

2434
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:01,640
Speaker 1: owner of the Rams, Jerry Jones, owner of the Cowboys,

2435
01:58:01,880 --> 01:58:05,280
Speaker 1: Robert Kraft owner of the Patriots, Giants owner John Mara,

2436
01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:10,040
Speaker 1: and of course former Patriots former Panthers owner Jerry Richardson

2437
01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:12,400
Speaker 1: who no longer owns the team. Those five guys and

2438
01:58:12,560 --> 01:58:15,680
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell all have to disclose financial statements to the court,

2439
01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:22,600
Speaker 1: which is interesting because even poor people don't want people

2440
01:58:22,600 --> 01:58:25,480
Speaker 1: to know what their money's doing. Rich people are the

2441
01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:27,760
Speaker 1: if far into the spectrum of the last people. They

2442
01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:29,920
Speaker 1: want to know what's going on with their money. And

2443
01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:32,720
Speaker 1: now they're being ordered by the court to divulge their

2444
01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:38,280
Speaker 1: financial their financials. Now, the speculation is, and this is

2445
01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:41,080
Speaker 1: from Pro Football Talk, NBC's Pro Football Talk website, and

2446
01:58:41,160 --> 01:58:44,320
Speaker 1: they they're into this trial. This was ruled on by

2447
01:58:44,360 --> 01:58:46,480
Speaker 1: the court, and so these five guys are gonna have

2448
01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:48,440
Speaker 1: to come up with financial statements to give to the court,

2449
01:58:49,160 --> 01:58:54,120
Speaker 1: These five owners and Roger Goodell, the commissioner over conversations

2450
01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:56,760
Speaker 1: and things and whatever whatever the NFL is being accused

2451
01:58:56,800 --> 01:58:59,440
Speaker 1: of in this lawsuit. I do not know. Obviously, it

2452
01:58:59,560 --> 01:59:02,040
Speaker 1: has to do with the RAMS relocation efforts and when

2453
01:59:02,120 --> 01:59:05,000
Speaker 1: that happened, how it was discussed, what was legal about,

2454
01:59:05,120 --> 01:59:07,200
Speaker 1: what was illegal? Who knew what who when did they

2455
01:59:07,280 --> 01:59:10,640
Speaker 1: know it. Whether this gets settled out of court or

2456
01:59:10,880 --> 01:59:17,240
Speaker 1: gets goes to trial is a big deal. But the

2457
01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:20,880
Speaker 1: league took a punch to the gut when this because

2458
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:22,880
Speaker 1: they want to know is the reason they want to

2459
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:24,880
Speaker 1: know what the financials are? Says listen, we gotta if

2460
01:59:24,920 --> 01:59:28,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna punish these guys, how much money is it

2461
01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:31,320
Speaker 1: gonna take to punish them? When who are they gonna feel?

2462
01:59:31,360 --> 01:59:33,240
Speaker 1: We're not gonna find these guys, you know, fifty dollars

2463
01:59:33,280 --> 01:59:37,440
Speaker 1: parking ticket? This is gonna hurt. So how much is

2464
01:59:37,480 --> 01:59:38,760
Speaker 1: it gonna take for each of them to hurt? A

2465
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:41,840
Speaker 1: little bit? I guess is what has been written in

2466
01:59:41,880 --> 01:59:44,440
Speaker 1: this report by Pro Football Talk. That's why they want

2467
01:59:44,440 --> 01:59:46,840
Speaker 1: their financials. What do you think about all this? This

2468
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:50,000
Speaker 1: is they say it's a massive lawsuit, and you can

2469
01:59:50,040 --> 01:59:52,520
Speaker 1: imagine the numbers that the City of Saint Louis would

2470
01:59:52,520 --> 01:59:55,120
Speaker 1: be talking about when their NFL's involved. What do you

2471
01:59:55,200 --> 01:59:57,960
Speaker 1: think is going to happen with this well, first of all,

2472
01:59:58,120 --> 01:59:59,760
Speaker 1: I think this is something that's I gonna resonate with

2473
01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:03,160
Speaker 1: the average fan too much because it's the cliche battle

2474
02:00:03,240 --> 02:00:05,800
Speaker 1: between the government and rich people that just happens in

2475
02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:07,920
Speaker 1: the world that most of us don't exist in. But

2476
02:00:08,080 --> 02:00:11,240
Speaker 1: it is, you know, like you talked about a black

2477
02:00:11,320 --> 02:00:13,000
Speaker 1: eye for the NFL, or a punch to the gut,

2478
02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:15,920
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, because they're being caught

2479
02:00:15,960 --> 02:00:17,360
Speaker 1: in a lie here. You know. One of the big

2480
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:21,240
Speaker 1: parts of this lawsuits that Stan Cronkie purchased land in

2481
02:00:21,400 --> 02:00:24,120
Speaker 1: LA with the intent on building a stadium while there

2482
02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:26,600
Speaker 1: was a press conference, a State of the League Super

2483
02:00:26,600 --> 02:00:29,640
Speaker 1: Bowl week press conference that Roger Goodell did in early

2484
02:00:29,720 --> 02:00:33,040
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen after this land had been purchased, where he

2485
02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:35,879
Speaker 1: stands up and says, I don't know why it was purchased.

2486
02:00:35,920 --> 02:00:37,880
Speaker 1: No one told me it was for a stadium, but

2487
02:00:38,200 --> 02:00:40,240
Speaker 1: it was revealed in this court document. Is why we're

2488
02:00:40,240 --> 02:00:43,680
Speaker 1: talking about this yesterday or in this court proceeding that

2489
02:00:44,960 --> 02:00:47,200
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell very well knew exactly what was going on.

2490
02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:49,840
Speaker 1: He was told what was going on in he told

2491
02:00:49,880 --> 02:00:53,200
Speaker 1: Stan Cronki he would make sure no one else found out. Now,

2492
02:00:53,640 --> 02:00:55,600
Speaker 1: in the Grand scheme for someone who doesn't live in

2493
02:00:55,680 --> 02:00:58,680
Speaker 1: Saint Louis. The fact that the NFL was planning to

2494
02:00:58,720 --> 02:01:00,680
Speaker 1: move to LA which we all was going to happen

2495
02:01:00,720 --> 02:01:04,040
Speaker 1: for years, and that executed a plan to move to

2496
02:01:04,240 --> 02:01:06,640
Speaker 1: LA and kept the city that was going to lose

2497
02:01:06,720 --> 02:01:08,880
Speaker 1: the team in the dark while it was happening. I

2498
02:01:08,960 --> 02:01:11,360
Speaker 1: mean to be honest, that makes logical sense to me.

2499
02:01:11,880 --> 02:01:14,560
Speaker 1: But it's still the NFL being caught in a lie

2500
02:01:14,640 --> 02:01:16,400
Speaker 1: and the NFL commissioner being caught in a lie. And

2501
02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:20,000
Speaker 1: like you said, the consequences of that lie are going

2502
02:01:20,080 --> 02:01:22,200
Speaker 1: to be are going to start with a lot of

2503
02:01:22,280 --> 02:01:25,240
Speaker 1: rich people having to open up their books and kind

2504
02:01:25,280 --> 02:01:27,200
Speaker 1: of show what's underneath the mattresses and all that, and

2505
02:01:27,560 --> 02:01:29,560
Speaker 1: not ideal situation for any of them. I'll just read

2506
02:01:29,640 --> 02:01:33,200
Speaker 1: one paragraph from the Pro Football Talk report and it

2507
02:01:33,280 --> 02:01:36,440
Speaker 1: says this the reason for the conclusion has significance as well.

2508
02:01:36,520 --> 02:01:38,640
Speaker 1: The judge who made the ruling from the bench, which

2509
02:01:38,720 --> 02:01:42,480
Speaker 1: means the evidence pointing to this was clear, concluded that

2510
02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:46,880
Speaker 1: clear and convincing proof exists to support a finding that

2511
02:01:47,000 --> 02:01:51,440
Speaker 1: those individuals operated in a fraudulent manner. As to the

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02:01:51,520 --> 02:01:54,800
Speaker 1: rest of the owners, Saint Louis has ten days to

2513
02:01:54,920 --> 02:01:58,040
Speaker 1: present evidence supporting that they should be forced to surrender

2514
02:01:58,080 --> 02:02:00,400
Speaker 1: their information as well. That means the City of Lewis

2515
02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:05,640
Speaker 1: needs to surrender their financial information as well. So, yeah,

2516
02:02:06,520 --> 02:02:10,280
Speaker 1: did the league and Roger Goodell lie to Saint Louis?

2517
02:02:11,120 --> 02:02:14,960
Speaker 1: Now that seems like a pretty slippery slope when you're

2518
02:02:14,960 --> 02:02:17,280
Speaker 1: talking about a football team and even a football league,

2519
02:02:17,760 --> 02:02:20,480
Speaker 1: because there are obvious reasons why Roger Goodell would not

2520
02:02:20,600 --> 02:02:22,800
Speaker 1: want to say that, because they've got fans that they

2521
02:02:22,920 --> 02:02:27,240
Speaker 1: want to they want to honor their fanship by not

2522
02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:28,880
Speaker 1: telling them that they're not going to have a football

2523
02:02:28,960 --> 02:02:32,720
Speaker 1: team anymore. They've still got business to do in that town. Um.

2524
02:02:33,240 --> 02:02:35,000
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna lie to the people you're in

2525
02:02:35,080 --> 02:02:40,560
Speaker 1: partnership with, yeah that might be. That might be wrong. Right, Yeah,

2526
02:02:40,680 --> 02:02:42,680
Speaker 1: that's much I'll think so much. Team's about lying to

2527
02:02:42,760 --> 02:02:45,320
Speaker 1: the fans. I think it's about lying to the Saint

2528
02:02:45,400 --> 02:02:47,880
Speaker 1: Louis will work in the St. Louis right right? Who

2529
02:02:47,960 --> 02:02:50,880
Speaker 1: are your partners? They're not they're not your customers. They

2530
02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:54,880
Speaker 1: are your your partners in making this team successful. So

2531
02:02:55,320 --> 02:02:57,440
Speaker 1: if I'm in the city of Saint Louis, yeah, I'm

2532
02:02:57,560 --> 02:02:59,280
Speaker 1: upset about that. And I want to, you know, drop

2533
02:02:59,320 --> 02:03:01,960
Speaker 1: a lawsuit out. Um. You know the other part of

2534
02:03:02,000 --> 02:03:04,000
Speaker 1: this too is and and I read an article from

2535
02:03:04,040 --> 02:03:07,320
Speaker 1: the point of view of Boston and they immediately spun

2536
02:03:07,400 --> 02:03:10,160
Speaker 1: it into well, if Roger Goodell is lying about this,

2537
02:03:10,280 --> 02:03:12,680
Speaker 1: what else have you been lying about with the implication

2538
02:03:12,800 --> 02:03:16,280
Speaker 1: being spygate, the flake gate, Tom whatever other gate you

2539
02:03:16,360 --> 02:03:18,680
Speaker 1: got coming out of the Patriots that Now, this is

2540
02:03:18,720 --> 02:03:21,040
Speaker 1: another way that we hear in New England can look

2541
02:03:21,080 --> 02:03:23,440
Speaker 1: at Roger Goodell and all the things that we've been

2542
02:03:23,480 --> 02:03:26,600
Speaker 1: caught cheating at and cast out upon that because look,

2543
02:03:26,920 --> 02:03:29,200
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell at the city of Saint Louis, he must

2544
02:03:29,240 --> 02:03:32,000
Speaker 1: be lying about us too. How many head coaches lie

2545
02:03:32,040 --> 02:03:37,840
Speaker 1: to the media every week during the season thirty two? Yeah, yeah,

2546
02:03:37,920 --> 02:03:39,600
Speaker 1: this is a yarner for me, like it is you

2547
02:03:40,080 --> 02:03:44,280
Speaker 1: now listen, I think this could dent the NFL shield,

2548
02:03:44,360 --> 02:03:48,240
Speaker 1: no question about it. Um. Oh yeah, I'll say this though,

2549
02:03:48,320 --> 02:03:52,800
Speaker 1: Saint Louis has lost the teams like what three times? Um,

2550
02:03:53,720 --> 02:03:58,320
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, the Rams, the Cardinals what once? The Rams?

2551
02:03:58,360 --> 02:04:01,080
Speaker 1: What twice? I don't know. It's like they've lost him twice.

2552
02:04:01,520 --> 02:04:07,760
Speaker 1: So you know, I yeah, and I agree. If there's

2553
02:04:07,800 --> 02:04:11,000
Speaker 1: no reason that the League needed to lie to get

2554
02:04:11,040 --> 02:04:13,440
Speaker 1: out of Saint Louis. If if stan Cronky wanted to

2555
02:04:13,520 --> 02:04:15,400
Speaker 1: take it on the chin and move that team and

2556
02:04:15,480 --> 02:04:17,560
Speaker 1: start making plans to do it three years before he

2557
02:04:17,600 --> 02:04:21,160
Speaker 1: should have, then you got to you gotta come clean.

2558
02:04:21,280 --> 02:04:23,000
Speaker 1: That's the way it is. If it hurts your business, now,

2559
02:04:23,080 --> 02:04:25,120
Speaker 1: you got to take that on the chin. You can't

2560
02:04:25,200 --> 02:04:27,280
Speaker 1: lie to make it better, particularly the people who have

2561
02:04:27,520 --> 02:04:30,160
Speaker 1: got skin in that game, meaning the city of Saint

2562
02:04:30,240 --> 02:04:33,760
Speaker 1: Louis and the Saint Louis proper, the government whatever, the

2563
02:04:34,600 --> 02:04:38,320
Speaker 1: tax paying citizens and the government of that city is

2564
02:04:38,360 --> 02:04:40,560
Speaker 1: in a partnership with your business. You can't lie to them.

2565
02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:43,840
Speaker 1: And that's what the league. To find out how this

2566
02:04:43,960 --> 02:04:46,000
Speaker 1: all got out. Maybe there's more research of al I

2567
02:04:46,040 --> 02:04:49,440
Speaker 1: could do to look into it, But this ostensibly is

2568
02:04:49,480 --> 02:04:52,640
Speaker 1: a conversation between stan Cronky and Roger Goodell and the

2569
02:04:52,720 --> 02:04:54,760
Speaker 1: four other power brokers that you mentioned there. Who are

2570
02:04:55,160 --> 02:04:57,240
Speaker 1: you know, these are not guys that would want to

2571
02:04:57,320 --> 02:04:59,640
Speaker 1: leak things because it's bad for all of them. So,

2572
02:05:00,240 --> 02:05:03,040
Speaker 1: you know, how do we get from what frankly I

2573
02:05:03,080 --> 02:05:05,440
Speaker 1: would think would be a fairly easy cover up to

2574
02:05:05,560 --> 02:05:08,360
Speaker 1: the point where we're now you know, it's moving along

2575
02:05:08,480 --> 02:05:11,200
Speaker 1: in a Saint Louis courtroom to where there feels like,

2576
02:05:11,280 --> 02:05:12,840
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the NFL is going

2577
02:05:12,880 --> 02:05:14,680
Speaker 1: to scratch a check for the city Saint Louis with

2578
02:05:14,800 --> 02:05:16,360
Speaker 1: a lot of zeros at the end of it. And

2579
02:05:16,960 --> 02:05:19,840
Speaker 1: the idea that that this league can't, you know, make

2580
02:05:19,960 --> 02:05:22,520
Speaker 1: that happen, make this cover up happen. And I know

2581
02:05:22,600 --> 02:05:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like endorsing villainy from the port of

2582
02:05:25,280 --> 02:05:28,440
Speaker 1: view of the NFL. But why they couldn't execute this scheme,

2583
02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:31,720
Speaker 1: to me is the more interesting part of this whole deal. Yeah,

2584
02:05:32,040 --> 02:05:35,880
Speaker 1: it's there are quotes from the phone call, and I

2585
02:05:35,920 --> 02:05:41,000
Speaker 1: don't know how those come about, right unless they unless

2586
02:05:41,080 --> 02:05:44,480
Speaker 1: they record it with the intent of spreading it among

2587
02:05:44,520 --> 02:05:46,280
Speaker 1: the owners, say hey, here's what's going on, so you

2588
02:05:46,360 --> 02:05:48,480
Speaker 1: just so you're aware. I don't know why they would

2589
02:05:48,520 --> 02:05:52,200
Speaker 1: do that either. I don't know whether there's maybe there's

2590
02:05:52,200 --> 02:05:55,360
Speaker 1: a whistleblower involved. I don't know somebody else who was

2591
02:05:55,400 --> 02:05:58,200
Speaker 1: on the call or what. Yeah, I'll tell you what if.

2592
02:05:58,640 --> 02:06:01,120
Speaker 1: And that's a logical thought, I think, And if that's

2593
02:06:01,160 --> 02:06:03,840
Speaker 1: what the idea was, to record the call so that

2594
02:06:03,920 --> 02:06:06,120
Speaker 1: they could spread it out to the rest of the ownership.

2595
02:06:06,640 --> 02:06:09,360
Speaker 1: The way that LA deal went down, with the Raiders

2596
02:06:09,440 --> 02:06:11,320
Speaker 1: and Chargers being in and out and in and out.

2597
02:06:11,760 --> 02:06:13,240
Speaker 1: You know, if you wanted to make the argument the

2598
02:06:13,320 --> 02:06:15,640
Speaker 1: Raiders owner at Mark Davis was the one that leaked it,

2599
02:06:15,840 --> 02:06:19,320
Speaker 1: I'd buy into that in a heartbeat. A good call

2600
02:06:19,440 --> 02:06:24,560
Speaker 1: by you, right, I mean, that's somebody's unhappy. And and

2601
02:06:24,640 --> 02:06:26,440
Speaker 1: the fact that you know and the other owners are

2602
02:06:26,480 --> 02:06:28,440
Speaker 1: on the call, I mean they are Essensibly they were

2603
02:06:28,480 --> 02:06:30,560
Speaker 1: on a call for a number of reasons. You don't

2604
02:06:30,560 --> 02:06:32,720
Speaker 1: get those five guys on for one call for five minutes.

2605
02:06:32,720 --> 02:06:35,080
Speaker 1: I mean, they probably had some business other than this

2606
02:06:35,200 --> 02:06:37,840
Speaker 1: to take care of. Stan Cronky made his wishes known,

2607
02:06:37,920 --> 02:06:39,880
Speaker 1: they moved on to other things where they went from

2608
02:06:39,920 --> 02:06:41,880
Speaker 1: other things to this and the last thing. On the addition, oh,

2609
02:06:41,960 --> 02:06:43,680
Speaker 1: by the way, I bought this land in LA and

2610
02:06:43,720 --> 02:06:46,560
Speaker 1: I want to move my team there. And then this

2611
02:06:46,760 --> 02:06:48,760
Speaker 1: was That was in twenty thirteen, and then of course

2612
02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:50,680
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell was asked about it at the Super Bowl

2613
02:06:50,720 --> 02:06:52,240
Speaker 1: in his press conference, he says, I don't have any

2614
02:06:52,280 --> 02:06:55,200
Speaker 1: knowledge of it, of anything like that going on. That's

2615
02:06:55,240 --> 02:06:59,040
Speaker 1: where the rub is. So anybody that was on that

2616
02:06:59,160 --> 02:07:03,000
Speaker 1: phone call is is in on the secret. Now whether

2617
02:07:03,040 --> 02:07:05,480
Speaker 1: they were asked publicly about it or not is another story.

2618
02:07:05,560 --> 02:07:08,960
Speaker 1: But nevertheless, it's this is big. I mean, it's a

2619
02:07:09,000 --> 02:07:10,720
Speaker 1: big deal, and this is probably one of the things

2620
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:13,960
Speaker 1: that goes gets washed under because this is you know,

2621
02:07:14,040 --> 02:07:17,600
Speaker 1: this is fun. This is like way above everybody's pay grade, right,

2622
02:07:17,680 --> 02:07:21,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, this is way up there. It's

2623
02:07:21,280 --> 02:07:23,520
Speaker 1: a big deal at the country club. You know, it's

2624
02:07:23,560 --> 02:07:25,240
Speaker 1: not a big deal on main Street. You know, I

2625
02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:27,360
Speaker 1: just don't. Maybe for the city of Saint Louis it

2626
02:07:27,440 --> 02:07:29,840
Speaker 1: will be, you know, because they lost their team, but

2627
02:07:30,120 --> 02:07:32,280
Speaker 1: they won the court battle, for for whatever that's worth.

2628
02:07:32,360 --> 02:07:34,360
Speaker 1: That that at least be a thing for them. But

2629
02:07:34,600 --> 02:07:36,560
Speaker 1: you know, I think for most of the NFL, you know,

2630
02:07:36,600 --> 02:07:38,400
Speaker 1: it's good. Now you and I'll talk about it, because

2631
02:07:38,800 --> 02:07:40,880
Speaker 1: you know, media circles, these are the things we're supposed

2632
02:07:40,880 --> 02:07:43,360
Speaker 1: to pay attention to and understand. But I think for

2633
02:07:43,680 --> 02:07:46,520
Speaker 1: for you know, Joe six Pack, who's sitting in row

2634
02:07:46,760 --> 02:07:49,600
Speaker 1: G of section three oh five on a Sunday, probably

2635
02:07:49,640 --> 02:07:51,520
Speaker 1: won't matter too much. No, it won't matter unless it

2636
02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:54,920
Speaker 1: affects the rosters, salary caps and all of that stuff.

2637
02:07:54,960 --> 02:07:57,080
Speaker 1: If it's a fundamental change across the league where the

2638
02:07:57,120 --> 02:07:58,800
Speaker 1: league has to pony up an all thirty two owners

2639
02:07:58,840 --> 02:08:00,520
Speaker 1: have to pony up some money to to pay this

2640
02:08:00,680 --> 02:08:04,480
Speaker 1: thing off. Um. Yeah, that that's big. Um and the

2641
02:08:04,560 --> 02:08:06,280
Speaker 1: players UNI will get involved in that as well. So

2642
02:08:06,400 --> 02:08:09,320
Speaker 1: it's it's uh, it could be big. I don't know

2643
02:08:09,400 --> 02:08:11,600
Speaker 1: that it will. It could also obviously also be settled

2644
02:08:11,600 --> 02:08:16,400
Speaker 1: out of court as well, but we're kept remains to

2645
02:08:16,480 --> 02:08:19,000
Speaker 1: be seen what will happen going forward. But that just

2646
02:08:19,160 --> 02:08:21,400
Speaker 1: in this number. Did you know, Steve, what what the

2647
02:08:21,560 --> 02:08:23,200
Speaker 1: what the size of the lawsuit is. I couldn't. I

2648
02:08:23,200 --> 02:08:25,080
Speaker 1: couldn't see that anywhere. I haven't seen it. That would

2649
02:08:25,240 --> 02:08:27,520
Speaker 1: be change the discussion. You're right, if we're talking about

2650
02:08:27,800 --> 02:08:31,360
Speaker 1: the city Saint Louis suing for five billion dollars, well

2651
02:08:31,400 --> 02:08:33,880
Speaker 1: then yeah, now you're talking about salary cap and roster

2652
02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:36,880
Speaker 1: and all other stuff being affected. Right, So we won't know, Well,

2653
02:08:37,480 --> 02:08:40,600
Speaker 1: it'll come out sooner or later, but we may not

2654
02:08:40,760 --> 02:08:43,240
Speaker 1: find out for for months and until this thing comes

2655
02:08:43,280 --> 02:08:46,080
Speaker 1: to fruition. Steve Tasker, Thad Brown here at one Bill's Live.

2656
02:08:46,120 --> 02:08:47,960
Speaker 1: We'll be back. We're gonna wrap this thing up in

2657
02:08:48,000 --> 02:08:50,360
Speaker 1: the next segment. And uh, this is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

2658
02:08:50,400 --> 02:09:06,880
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. What have we learned? Brought to

2659
02:09:06,920 --> 02:09:10,240
Speaker 1: you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental company of

2660
02:09:10,400 --> 02:09:13,680
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. What are we learned today? Richard Sherman,

2661
02:09:15,040 --> 02:09:19,920
Speaker 1: superstar free agent cornerback in the NFL, arrested on domestic

2662
02:09:20,000 --> 02:09:23,360
Speaker 1: charges and domestic violence and burglary charges last night. He

2663
02:09:23,400 --> 02:09:26,000
Speaker 1: was also reported that he crashed or was involved in

2664
02:09:26,040 --> 02:09:30,120
Speaker 1: a one car collision last night, no other vehicles involved,

2665
02:09:30,160 --> 02:09:32,200
Speaker 1: and he left the scene of that just about an

2666
02:09:32,240 --> 02:09:36,320
Speaker 1: hour or two before he was arrested. Or at least

2667
02:09:36,360 --> 02:09:39,960
Speaker 1: a car was registered in his name, So a lot

2668
02:09:40,080 --> 02:09:42,720
Speaker 1: going on in Seattle. Richard Sherman's beat was being held

2669
02:09:43,200 --> 02:09:46,920
Speaker 1: pending appearing before a judge before he could be awarded bail,

2670
02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:50,480
Speaker 1: if indeed he was allowed to have bail. A really

2671
02:09:50,640 --> 02:09:53,480
Speaker 1: rough case for a guy who up until this point

2672
02:09:53,600 --> 02:09:56,920
Speaker 1: was pretty highly respected around the National Football League. It's

2673
02:09:57,000 --> 02:10:00,480
Speaker 1: it's difficult to see. Yeah, it's still details you to

2674
02:10:00,480 --> 02:10:02,680
Speaker 1: come out though, as you pointed out, and justifiably so.

2675
02:10:03,080 --> 02:10:05,760
Speaker 1: The car accident, the cars registered to him, but we

2676
02:10:05,840 --> 02:10:07,480
Speaker 1: don't know if he was the person there because the

2677
02:10:07,560 --> 02:10:10,160
Speaker 1: car was found not the driver. And after the car

2678
02:10:10,360 --> 02:10:13,800
Speaker 1: was crashed at at one am. Sherman gets arrested about

2679
02:10:13,840 --> 02:10:16,760
Speaker 1: an hour later. One other details that apparently a canine

2680
02:10:16,880 --> 02:10:20,920
Speaker 1: unit had to be deployed after Sherman essentially resisted arrest

2681
02:10:21,760 --> 02:10:23,840
Speaker 1: and became and got to a fight with the police. So,

2682
02:10:24,440 --> 02:10:26,920
Speaker 1: you know, it could easily be someone he knew took

2683
02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:29,080
Speaker 1: his car out, wrecked it and he heard about it,

2684
02:10:29,240 --> 02:10:30,720
Speaker 1: was mad about it, and then when the police came

2685
02:10:30,960 --> 02:10:34,400
Speaker 1: to arrest him for breaking into the house, that's where

2686
02:10:34,440 --> 02:10:37,840
Speaker 1: this you know, misunderstanding could have happened. But we are

2687
02:10:37,960 --> 02:10:40,000
Speaker 1: still way early in this and in the three hours

2688
02:10:40,040 --> 02:10:42,320
Speaker 1: we've been here, it seems like every hour we get

2689
02:10:42,360 --> 02:10:44,800
Speaker 1: a new turn from this story. It won't end, you know,

2690
02:10:44,960 --> 02:10:46,520
Speaker 1: here at two fifty one pm. And one of the

2691
02:10:46,600 --> 02:10:48,880
Speaker 1: other things we've been talking about is this summertime. Is

2692
02:10:48,880 --> 02:10:50,720
Speaker 1: this kind of the time of the year where lots

2693
02:10:50,760 --> 02:10:53,440
Speaker 1: of rankings and polls are brought out around the National

2694
02:10:53,480 --> 02:10:56,960
Speaker 1: Football League. We asked your listeners what you thought about them.

2695
02:10:57,000 --> 02:11:00,000
Speaker 1: Are they interesting or relevant? And we gave you some choice.

2696
02:11:00,320 --> 02:11:03,160
Speaker 1: Is interested because I love the NFL. Interested only when

2697
02:11:03,160 --> 02:11:06,000
Speaker 1: the Bills are involved. Interested because the Bills aren't involved,

2698
02:11:06,040 --> 02:11:08,200
Speaker 1: and I think they should be or not interested at all.

2699
02:11:08,360 --> 02:11:10,480
Speaker 1: Half of you said I am not interested at all,

2700
02:11:10,560 --> 02:11:13,360
Speaker 1: and the other two and the other at three choices

2701
02:11:13,480 --> 02:11:16,360
Speaker 1: two A and B, I'm interested because I love the NFL,

2702
02:11:16,480 --> 02:11:18,480
Speaker 1: and I'm interested only because the bills are involved. He

2703
02:11:18,560 --> 02:11:21,320
Speaker 1: kind of split up the remaining percentages there, with about

2704
02:11:21,400 --> 02:11:24,120
Speaker 1: forty six forty six and a half percent of you

2705
02:11:24,280 --> 02:11:27,240
Speaker 1: saying yeah, if the bills are involved, I find them relevant.

2706
02:11:27,280 --> 02:11:31,720
Speaker 1: Everybody else I'm not interested, So that's interesting as well. Tomorrow,

2707
02:11:31,760 --> 02:11:33,760
Speaker 1: and by the way, I want to thank Thad thanks

2708
02:11:33,800 --> 02:11:36,160
Speaker 1: for coming on spending You were here Monday, you're here today.

2709
02:11:36,200 --> 02:11:38,800
Speaker 1: We spent yesterday afternoon together on the golf course off

2710
02:11:38,880 --> 02:11:40,680
Speaker 1: the air, but thanks for coming in spending some time

2711
02:11:40,720 --> 02:11:43,480
Speaker 1: with us and co hosting this week. Thanks for having

2712
02:11:43,480 --> 02:11:45,480
Speaker 1: me on. Steve great time, man, I mean good. Good

2713
02:11:45,560 --> 02:11:47,840
Speaker 1: couple of shows and definitely the golf day yesterday it

2714
02:11:47,920 --> 02:11:51,200
Speaker 1: was fantastic. Yeah, it was fun. Tomorrow Tomorrow CBS Sports,

2715
02:11:51,280 --> 02:11:53,800
Speaker 1: Chris Trepasso is going to be in studio sitting with me.

2716
02:11:53,960 --> 02:11:59,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna have our guest what's that, oh two minutes

2717
02:11:59,240 --> 02:12:01,800
Speaker 1: I got you. Mark Scofield from USA today is going

2718
02:12:01,840 --> 02:12:04,440
Speaker 1: to be our guests Chris Trapasso from CBS Sports on

2719
02:12:04,600 --> 02:12:07,840
Speaker 1: with us tomorrow. It's been a nice week so far.

2720
02:12:08,800 --> 02:12:11,160
Speaker 1: Continue to hang in. There are faithful listeners, and I

2721
02:12:11,240 --> 02:12:13,040
Speaker 1: know that you're the same way as I am. That

2722
02:12:13,920 --> 02:12:15,800
Speaker 1: it's a tough time a year, but it's also a

2723
02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:18,320
Speaker 1: fun time a year because the anticipate it's right around

2724
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Speaker 1: the corner. We've been through a ton of stuff this offseason.

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Speaker 1: The masks are coming off all around us, and it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a much different preseason and training camp that

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Speaker 1: we were in last year, and a much different regular

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Speaker 1: season too. And I you know, I cannot wait for

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Speaker 1: Week one Bill Steelers to see a full house, to

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Speaker 1: see you know, someone leading the charge, all all the

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Speaker 1: things we've come to love about NFL football being one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent back, you know, assumably for early September. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be, you know, especially in Buffalo, it's going to

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Speaker 1: be one of the most anticipated seasons, and you know

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Speaker 1: what should be one of the best Bill seasons we've

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Speaker 1: had in a long time. And don't forget this Thursday

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Speaker 1: at sept tomorrow, at seven sixteen pm tomorrow and I

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Speaker 1: give seven one six will unite Bills and Sabers as

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Speaker 1: in an epic day of giving. Everybody, get out and

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Speaker 1: go online and give to it. It's going to raise

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Speaker 1: funds and awareness for nonprofits over four hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: of them around Western New York's perfect, perfect opportunity for

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Speaker 1: you to discuss, discover causes that you're passionate about, help

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Speaker 1: support him locally. Bill's Mafia has been huge about this

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Speaker 1: over the last few years. Now we can do it

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Speaker 1: not just for Andy Dalton and Tyler Boyd and Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: but also for causes here in Western New York locally.

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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, thanks to Jay Harris, thanks to Jeff Colton,

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Speaker 1: act Thomas Hollander and making a cameo doing Yeoman's work.

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Speaker 1: James Roble was in the house today helping us get

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Speaker 1: this thing on the air. Sad Thanks a lot, appreciate

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Speaker 1: it everybody out there. We'll be back tomorrow. Chris Trapasso

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