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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to the Hammer Territory Podcast.

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Speaker 1: This episode Tune five nine. I am your host, Spratt Rowland,

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Speaker 1: coming to you on a Sunday evening. As we're recording,

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Speaker 1: this is probably gonna turn to September. It's the end

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Speaker 1: of August in September. It's almost midnight, and I am

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Speaker 1: joined as I rarely am, honestly by Steven Tolbert. Steven,

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Speaker 1: thanks for doing this on Labor Day weekend.

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Speaker 2: What's going on, hey, buddy? Yeah, one of the not

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Speaker 2: a combination we typically go with Scott's out of town

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Speaker 2: for a little while. You were out of town for

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Speaker 2: a while. It's that time of year people are traveling,

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Speaker 2: so you know, we do we do what we can

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Speaker 2: to get a pair on here. But yeah, it was

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Speaker 2: it was not a great weekend for the Braves, to

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Speaker 2: be honest. They did salvage a game Sunday night, which

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about, but it was a rough

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Speaker 2: series up in Philadelphia, lost three or four offense, didn't

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Speaker 2: have a great weekend, but there were some things to

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Speaker 2: talk about. There's some interesting storylines that we're gonna get to.

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Speaker 2: But it's always good to be with you, man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you as well. We have not broken the glass

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Speaker 1: on the the most rarely seen combination me and Sean.

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Speaker 1: That might happen this week, that might happen. Well, just

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Speaker 1: stay tuned everybody. But if you're new to the podcast,

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Speaker 1: please subscribe to Hammer Territory anywhere you get your podcast.

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Speaker 1: We cover the braves all year round. We don't slow

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Speaker 1: down at all and that includes right now on Labor

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Speaker 1: Day weekend. So here we go. Yeah, it was, like

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Speaker 1: you said, not the best weekend. They did salvage a

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Speaker 1: win on Sunday evening to avoid what would have been

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Speaker 1: Look the results, we've all covered this, but the results

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Speaker 1: don't matter of a ton right now. We get that,

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Speaker 1: but you don't want to You don't get something in

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Speaker 1: four games by the Phillies like that's that's no fun

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Speaker 1: for anybody. So going out and winning a game on

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Speaker 1: Sunday night Baseball ESPN prior time game, standalone game to

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Speaker 1: get that win, do it also in like pretty fun

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Speaker 1: fashion at the end with Drake Balwin hitting a two

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Speaker 1: run homer to win it, not walking off, but to

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Speaker 1: win it in the ninth inning. That was fun and

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Speaker 1: the vibe is just way better. And look, Drake Balwin

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Speaker 1: has been a positive story in a season that doesn't

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Speaker 1: have a ton of those. All year round, we've talked

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Speaker 1: about him quite a bit. There's been the persistent, i

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Speaker 1: would say, National League Rookie of the Year race around him,

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Speaker 1: as there should be. He is certainly one of the favorites.

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Speaker 1: I know, Braves fans think that he is the only favorite,

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Speaker 1: and he's not. He's right up there with other guys.

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Speaker 1: But this is a big moment for him. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to overstate it, but this is the kind of

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Speaker 1: thing that kind of perhaps have a outsized impact on

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Speaker 1: the National League Rookie of the Year race because it

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Speaker 1: was a standalone National TV game. Like, voters are human

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Speaker 1: and they remember, Hey, Drake Balwin had this walk. Whatever

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Speaker 1: it could be, it's probably little, but it could matter

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Speaker 1: a little bit. And I have to add but before

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Speaker 1: I thought it was fun to see that he didn't

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Speaker 1: even start the game, Like it was an impressive swing

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Speaker 1: as well, like opposite field against the lefty is like

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Speaker 1: not what you expect him to do. So a nice

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Speaker 1: moment for him in the midst of a rough weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, there's this ongoing debate about

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Speaker 2: Drake Baldwin and sitting versus lefties and righty's and how

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Speaker 2: much he's playing. I thought it was notable that he

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Speaker 2: hit this homer off a lefty. Obviously came off Alvarado.

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Speaker 2: I think it was like a ninety nine on hour

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Speaker 2: We've talked about that. Other guys around the National League

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Speaker 2: have had better August and that's why the National League

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Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year race is where it is. But

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Speaker 2: he still shows you from time to time what he's

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Speaker 2: And I know he did play against the LEFTI the

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Speaker 2: I can't remember which one. But the Phillies did throw

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Speaker 2: He sat two of them. I don't love it, but

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Speaker 1: I would I would like it very much if the

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Speaker 1: that's happening right now. But as Alex always always says,

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Speaker 1: as you know, Stephen, that the lanneup card is snits.

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Speaker 1: He always says that, I don't think that's the best

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Speaker 1: always going to defer to Ozuna. And I have the

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Speaker 1: up August heading in September. In the month of August, Baldwin,

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Speaker 1: I should say played Balwin started nineteen games. He did

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Speaker 1: Remember at the remember at the deadline when we were

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Speaker 1: Well he's he's not. He's not doing that. Seven He

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Speaker 1: and as a reminder, Marcel was kind of I mean,

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Speaker 1: at ops in the seven hundred. It's like he was fine.

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Speaker 1: But this is a thirty four year old DH only

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Speaker 1: player who's on an expiring contract. The definition of a

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Speaker 1: guy who you should not be prioritizing right now in

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Speaker 1: a law season. And Drake Bowlin sat ten times the

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Speaker 1: but because he homeward against the lefty, that was it.

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Speaker 1: It was like, Hey, the barrage of tweets happened. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: see what has many plays against lefties? And I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying he's always gonna kill lefties. He may not, but

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Speaker 1: you wanted to like just face liftaned pitching and like

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Speaker 1: and all kinds of things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now they're doing this thing where they're dhing acunya.

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Speaker 2: I think this is the second game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm okay. By the way, I don't know

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Speaker 1: about you. I'm I'm okay with that if they think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what happened tonight. They dh tcunya. So

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Speaker 2: I think Eli White got the start and Jake Freiley

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Speaker 2: is Listen, it would have been a hell lot easier

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Speaker 2: if they just traded at Zuna. I mean, it would

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Speaker 2: just made it life. Because Alex does defer to snit

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Speaker 2: that works. Like if you're a GM, you acquire the

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Speaker 2: possible to just defer the lineup to somebody else completely

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Speaker 2: like it seems like it would have to be in tandem.

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Speaker 2: But Alex has always said Snid has the lineup. I'm

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Speaker 2: not enterprise. It's his. It's his call. And we knew.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we said it. You guys said it the

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Speaker 2: team's gonna pla him a bunch And that's what's happened,

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Speaker 2: and you know that's what's going to happen the rest

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Speaker 2: matchups for that night against that picture on that day,

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Speaker 2: that's all he's thinking about. He's not thinking about twenty

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Speaker 2: would like the organization to have a little bit broader

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Speaker 2: lens here of things that matter more than the individual

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Speaker 2: it just doesn't make much sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if the Braves were even even like seven or

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Speaker 1: eight games out of the wild card right now, I

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Speaker 1: some organation just want to keep. Alex believes in that,

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Speaker 1: obviously has more power that it's ever had in baseball.

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Speaker 1: The manager does less than they ever did thirty years ago,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, but for whatever reason they're

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Speaker 1: drawing that line, and you're right. I mean, I at

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Speaker 1: least if if Snit's entire focus is winning that night,

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Speaker 1: even in that lens, Snitt tends to over rely on

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Speaker 1: righty lefty like I pitching wise too, who does the

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Speaker 1: same thing pitching wise. He's very traditional in that way.

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Speaker 1: And sitting ball win. I mean again, I actually love

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Speaker 1: to know what people think Baldwin's baseline against left handed

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Speaker 1: pitching actually is, because it's his numbers are pretty good

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. But he isn't like

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Speaker 1: a profile of a guy who like can't hit lefties.

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Speaker 1: It's not like he's gonna be a disaster up there.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, we don't have to labor it

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Speaker 2: But yeah, and Snid has always been huge on individual

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Speaker 2: of history against the dude, it could be four at

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Speaker 2: he's he's big on that. I've never personally put much

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Speaker 2: value in sample sizes. It's because it's always tinyam, It's

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Speaker 2: always like seven at bats, twelve at bats, but snit

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Speaker 1: Especially in this season, this part of the season where

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Speaker 2: I think they were third this morning. The wind might

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Speaker 1: All right, Stephen, let's go to the weekend's results that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, how the Braves, How the Braves won

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's still nineteen and thirty one in one

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Speaker 1: But anyway, Friday's game was another one of those we

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Speaker 1: The headliner of the weekend is the return of Chrisale.

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Speaker 2: I was stunned how good he looked.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just a dog. We all understand that. But man,

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Speaker 1: a lot, but we were not wrong about Chrissale. We

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Speaker 2: if he had just pitched all the way through like normal,

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Speaker 2: he had gotten so hot. You know. He obviously got

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Speaker 2: off to a rough start in like the first two

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Speaker 2: weeks of April, but since then he's been as good

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Speaker 2: as he was last year. I think he would have

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Speaker 2: won the cy Young if he had stayed healthy. The

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Speaker 2: whole year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he certainly would have been right there. I

436
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Speaker 1: think I think Skins in Sanchez is like the one

437
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Speaker 1: two right now. But even look, I just pulled this up,

438
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Speaker 1: even if you include everything, so he missed all his time.

439
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Speaker 1: He is currently fifteenth in the National League and Fangrafts

440
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Speaker 1: war for pitchers. Yeah, and he missed two and a

441
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Speaker 1: half months, so he would be comfortably in the top

442
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Speaker 1: three or four if he had not gone.

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Speaker 2: And in terms of like name value, now Skens is

444
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Speaker 2: well known, but he's he's not more well known than

445
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Speaker 2: Chris Sale. I mean, at least in baseball. Like if

446
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Speaker 2: Chris Sale is up there, he's got the cachet, you know. Obviously,

447
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Speaker 2: if the Braves had a better season, it would have helped.

448
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Speaker 2: But I think he will. I think he had a

449
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Speaker 2: really good shot at winning so young if he'd stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad he won it last year, and he deserved it.

451
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Speaker 1: He was awesome on the Chris Sale front. It's not

452
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Speaker 1: what about Chrisale. But I already teased that I would

453
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Speaker 1: wind you up, so I have to. I think a

454
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Speaker 1: lot of us assumed, not for sure, but assumed that

455
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Speaker 1: when Sale came back, they were probably going to part

456
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Speaker 1: ways with cal Quantrill. I know you talked about Sean

457
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Speaker 1: on our last episode on the Feed after the debacle

458
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Speaker 1: on Thursday? Was it Wednesday? One of those Thursday? But

459
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Speaker 1: as of now and on Saturday Snith was asked about this,

460
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Speaker 1: Snid told the media that he's going to actually stay

461
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Speaker 1: on the roster and be in long relief. That has

462
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Speaker 1: not happened yet because they have played two close games

463
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Speaker 1: and I assume he is going to be the last

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Speaker 1: person in the bullpen. We saw John Reba today in

465
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Speaker 1: a one run game. But John Rebby has not been

466
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Speaker 1: in the majors for like months and he came up

467
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Speaker 1: today and it is clearly ahead of Quantrill in the

468
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Speaker 1: pecking order of the bullpens, and that would put Quantrill

469
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Speaker 1: dead last in the bullpen. But hey, Steven, what do

470
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Speaker 1: you think about Cole Quantrill being still on the roster

471
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Speaker 1: and in the bullpen now seemingly?

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, if you're somebody who wants the Braves

473
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Speaker 2: to lose games for like draft position, this is a

474
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Speaker 2: fantastic news. I mean, I was right. I mean, that's

475
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Speaker 2: as good a guys you could have on the roster

476
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Speaker 2: if you want to lose games. I was stunned. I mean,

477
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Speaker 2: we did a whole like the last half of our episode.

478
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Speaker 2: We were we were already opening up you know, Quantrell's

479
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Speaker 2: dealership and whatever his hometown is.

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Speaker 1: I had a healthy laugh about that. By the way,

481
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Speaker 1: as I was putting together the YouTube video, I was

482
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Speaker 1: I was laughing quite a bit at the at the outro.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he's still around. Yeah, very surprise. I mean, I

484
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Speaker 2: don't know. Obviously, tomorrow September, so there'll be a couple

485
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Speaker 2: of September call ups. One of them is always a picture,

486
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Speaker 2: so the the bullpen is going to get deeper, so

487
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Speaker 2: you might not ever see this guy. But I was,

488
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Speaker 2: especially since the Braves have some like legitimate, young, interesting,

489
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Speaker 2: possible future bullpen pieces that are kind of ready to

490
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Speaker 2: go in triple A. I don't know why you're wasting

491
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Speaker 2: a roster spot on this guy who's not it's a

492
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Speaker 2: free agent at the end of the year. He has

493
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Speaker 2: no value for twenty twenty six or beyond. He's not

494
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Speaker 2: good now, he's terrible. Actually, like it's it seems like

495
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Speaker 2: a Correctsco situation, except with Carrasco. They let him go

496
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Speaker 2: and and this guy he stayed. I don't. Maybe you

497
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Speaker 2: have maybe you have insight on that. I I was

498
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Speaker 2: for sure he was off the roster when sale came back,

499
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Speaker 2: and that wasn't the case.

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Speaker 1: Uh, I do not have insight. I that was one

501
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Speaker 1: that I was surprised as well. I don't think it

502
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: matters that much, to be honest, Like the outrage is

503
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Speaker 1: probably bigger than the impact. But it was a weird one.

504
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Speaker 1: I I'm kind of glad that Walker Buehler signed somewhere

505
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Speaker 1: else before we did a podcast, because I'm sure everyone

506
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Speaker 1: was asking, I'm not sure if you've got the same

507
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Speaker 1: place that I got, was like, are the brisk side

508
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Speaker 1: Walker Bueller? I was like maybe, I mean, they've signed

509
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Speaker 1: everybody that they could have signed. Carrasco fed, who did

510
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Speaker 1: who did he sign with Philly? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Okay, that must have happened today.

512
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Speaker 1: It did, it was today, So anyway, that's another guy.

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Speaker 1: I think our guy, Gore Vadak reported that Munnos is

514
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Speaker 1: coming up. He's probably he's probably Monday. Yeah, that'll be

515
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Speaker 1: an extra arm. And I know when I thought to

516
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Speaker 1: Eric Cole last week on the podcast we talked about

517
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Speaker 1: about the Hayden Harris weirdness, I don't know why he's

518
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Speaker 1: not up. But anyway, we're gonna do kind of the

519
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Speaker 1: reaction to that versus the pre reaction to who they

520
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Speaker 1: call up because we don't know, so we'll see later

521
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Speaker 1: on probably on Monday morning, we might hear who would

522
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Speaker 1: they call up for September.

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Speaker 4: Okay, KP, this is your first arena club experience. We're

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Speaker 4: going to open a slab pack together. So first off,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna buy one of those twenty five dollars slab

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Speaker 4: packs and we get to see what is in the pack.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 4: It is the Grail, which is the best card in

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Speaker 4: the pack and worth the most. There are some other

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Speaker 4: cards that we're chasing, and you can see the entire

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Speaker 4: lineup so that you know what you're in the running for.

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Speaker 4: There's the Yamamoto signed card. Now let's open up our

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Speaker 4: pack and see how we do. We have ourselves a

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Speaker 4: really cool graphic and then a show heo Tani fifty

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Speaker 4: for sixteen or should.

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Speaker 1: We keep it? You should give it to me, I'll keep.

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Speaker 4: Good answer, fine, I will give it to you. Since

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Speaker 4: the Blue Jays didn't getto tany you can get this

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Speaker 4: to get yourself twenty percent off your first slab pack

543
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Speaker 4: or card purchase. Yes, you get to keep that card

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Speaker 4: if you want it, They send it to you foul

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Speaker 4: at Arena club dot com slash.

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Speaker 1: Foul okay Steven. Another positive thing from Sunday. So Baldmoan

547
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Speaker 1: was the hero of the game, but herson Waldrip has

548
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Speaker 1: been an awesome story for a full calendar month now.

549
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Speaker 1: He pitched today in Philly. It was his biggest test

550
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Speaker 1: to date. Like by far, we've given him credit while

551
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Speaker 1: also acknowledging he has not faced the most difficult schedule

552
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Speaker 1: of opposing offenses and things. But there's no frills here

553
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: on the road against your rival ESPN National TV standalone

554
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Speaker 1: game Philadelphia's left handed bats all that and he goes

555
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Speaker 1: out and he throws five to two thirds. He did.

556
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Speaker 1: He did walk four, but start out nine. Only only

557
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: a run that he allowed was a solo home run.

558
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: There was some jams, but he got out of him,

559
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: pitched really well, and at the end of August he

560
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: throws five starts and has a one point zero one

561
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Speaker 1: ERA thirty five to two thirds innings, four runs allowed,

562
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Speaker 1: thirty three k's eleven walks. Like, actually, our guy, Sean,

563
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Speaker 1: I'm not I don't know, I know you were eating

564
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Speaker 1: out today. Our guy Sean pulled the stat it's the

565
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Speaker 1: lowest era by a rookie over a month with at

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Speaker 1: least as many innings in a month since a Deo

567
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Speaker 1: nomo in nineteen ninety five. Like, that's very, very, very impressive,

568
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Speaker 1: And I thought it was a real test for him,

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Speaker 1: and he obviously passed it with flying covers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Sean and I talked about it on

571
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Speaker 2: the last show, like he has a legitimate case for

572
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Speaker 2: not just Rookie of the Month, but like picture of

573
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Speaker 2: the Month of the whole league in August. You know,

574
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Speaker 2: we were looking at some of the guys, but it's

575
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Speaker 2: not like not be surprised at all. In a couple

576
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Speaker 2: of days when they announced all the players of the

577
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Speaker 2: months pictures of the month, a person Waldrip wins that award,

578
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Speaker 2: again not as Rookie of the Month, but as just

579
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Speaker 2: picture of the month, because that's how good he's been.

580
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Speaker 2: I can't, I mean, I really can't believe in a

581
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Speaker 2: good way. This is where we are with him. He

582
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Speaker 2: really looked like he was kind of lost and at

583
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Speaker 2: a dead end. Not that long ago. And you know

584
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Speaker 2: that last start against Miami, Yeah, Miami where he had

585
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Speaker 2: no strikeouts, at base runners everywhere. You're like, all right,

586
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Speaker 2: you know, are they making adjustments? Are they starting to

587
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: figure them out? Comes back to nine against a really

588
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 2: good lineup, a bunch of lefties. It has nine strikeouts

589
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: and six innings or five and two third innings, did

590
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Speaker 2: have four walks. I think one of them was intentional,

591
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Speaker 2: So three walks just incredible. I mean, what he's done

592
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Speaker 2: with his repertoire, what he's done with his mechanics. The

593
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Speaker 2: I mean outside of Drake Baldwin, let me think, let

594
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Speaker 2: me think about this before I say it. Outside of

595
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Speaker 2: Drake Baldwin, is Hurston Waldrup like the second best story

596
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Speaker 2: of the year as we sit here right now, I mean,

597
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Speaker 2: what's now, What's what's on? What else is on that list?

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Speaker 1: It's it's probably it's one where like it might change,

599
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Speaker 1: like if he cools off, it might change, But at

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Speaker 1: this very moment, yeah, he's up there. I mean, how

601
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Speaker 1: many how many positive stories are there? There aren't There

602
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: are not that many Baldwin is the only one that's

603
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Speaker 1: like shine through the entire way. Everything else has either

604
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Speaker 1: been you know, in and out or kind of like

605
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Speaker 1: just meeting expectations. Like guys like Sale and the Kunya

606
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: are supposed to be good and they have been good,

607
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: right like that, But as far as like guys who

608
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: have exceeded expectations are like broken out. You could have

609
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: said Schwamabach earlier in the year that got hurt. But yeah,

610
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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's Baldwin, and maybe it's wald by

611
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Speaker 1: the way, to your point about a picture of the month,

612
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Speaker 1: the only other person like there are a couple of

613
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Speaker 1: guys who have similar months going right now. Cad Horton,

614
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Speaker 1: who's also a Rookie of the Year candidate that Baldwin

615
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Speaker 1: is battling with, has a one point two era in August.

616
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Speaker 1: There are not that many guys though that have worse

617
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Speaker 1: or sorry better eras and better like peripheral stuff. And

618
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Speaker 1: I think it'd be small. I mean, Trevor Rodgers, but

619
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Speaker 1: that's an American League pitcher. Yeah, I mean, I don't

620
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Speaker 1: want to see a ton of other competition for him,

621
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, as far as the great story list,

622
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Speaker 1: he came out not nowhere. We all know question of

623
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Speaker 1: Walter if he's first round pick, but given where we were,

624
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Speaker 1: I mean, think about it, Steven a month ago, if

625
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Speaker 1: anybody told any of us that he was going to

626
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Speaker 1: even make five starts of the month of August, it

627
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Speaker 1: would have been like whoa, Okay, that's weird. And then

628
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Speaker 1: for him to do that and then have a literally

629
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Speaker 1: a one RRA and yeah, his fip's like two and

630
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Speaker 1: a half. Okay, cool, Like no has a one fip.

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Speaker 1: So it's a little bit it's a little good fortune.

632
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Speaker 1: But like he looks like a real starting pitcher. Was man,

633
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: that's that was far away, like not that long ago.

634
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Speaker 2: Well, not only that, but what if the Speedway Classic

635
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: didn't have a rain delay and Spencer Strutter just pitched that.

636
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Speaker 1: Game, right, I mean, I'm assuming he would come up

637
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Speaker 1: at some point because he was not coming up that

638
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: that's a grid. It's a thing I can remember about

639
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: this is that he was not scheduled to pitch. He

640
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: had to get in his car and go to Bristol,

641
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Speaker 1: Tennessee to pitch, and then he pitched so well and

642
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Speaker 1: they are and he was.

643
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Speaker 2: Not he was not pitching this well at Triple A either.

644
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Speaker 1: No, I mean the prospect guys that we trust. I

645
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Speaker 1: mean dating back to like in this season, like April

646
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: and May, there was like, man, I don't know if

647
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: he's going to be able to be a starter. That

648
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: was like a thing that was happening and not like

649
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: nobody said he definitely couldn't be. But it was not

650
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Speaker 1: a luck and to him him do this for five starts,

651
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: so I don't, I mean, we could, we can move on.

652
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: But it's like awesome, awesome story bright Spot. I'm glad

653
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: they won the game, not to get he didn't get

654
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: the loss or what, but like it's cool that they

655
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: won this game because it's just all the vibes are

656
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: better with everything. But he was, he just deserved to

657
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: win this game. And he went, you know, when's the losses?

658
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't care about that at all. But

659
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: he did go four and oh this month, I didn't

660
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,239
Speaker 1: lose today, so it'll look better down the line. And

661
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: I mean, Bowman had a bunch of stats about this,

662
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: like he's up there with like Chris Medlin and Greg

663
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: Maddox and stuff and like Braves history of best months.

664
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: It's like it's crazy.

665
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: Thank god it raindo in Bristol.

666
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely other than that today, I mean, do you want

667
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Speaker 1: to talk about Withal Bruhan hitting for Sean Murphy.

668
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Speaker 2: So behind the scenes here, Brian and I have been

669
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Speaker 2: trying to schedule this podcast all day because it's Labor

670
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: Day weekend, so I was I was out most of

671
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: the day. I was following the game on my phone.

672
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Speaker 2: So when I sat down here right before we started

673
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: court and Brad just kind of walked me through all

674
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Speaker 2: the particulars of the game to make sure I had

675
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: it all. And at one point he says, yeah, Breuhan

676
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: pitch hit for Sean Murphy. And I I'm sure he misspoke,

677
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: Like there's no way that Bruhan, who has a like career,

678
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: you know, forty WRC plus pitch hit for Sean Murphy.

679
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: And we like, we were both so confused about it.

680
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: Brad actually went back and double checked the box score

681
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: to make sure he didn't like misremember, yes, that's what happened.

682
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: And I still I'm glad I wasn't watching at the

683
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Speaker 2: time because I probably would have tweeted some stuff about it.

684
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Speaker 1: It was it was very, very odd, and it was

685
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Speaker 1: it was in the eighth things. It was before the

686
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Speaker 1: walk off. It was the Braves did load the bases

687
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: in the eighth there down one nothing, butter we missed this.

688
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: They loaded the bases with nobody out in typical Braves fashion.

689
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: It was an infield single by Bruhan and then a

690
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: couple of walks. And I made this observation on Twitter.

691
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Speaker 1: But our friends at DraftKings I checked their their odds.

692
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: The Braves were favored to win. The Braves were the

693
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Speaker 1: betting favorite to win the game while they were losing

694
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Speaker 1: in the eighth thing. They were down one nothing in

695
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 1: the eighth but when of his bases loaded nobody out

696
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: pitching change they had Matt Olsen, Ronald mccunya, Ozzi Alby's

697
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: Michael Harris coming up. They were favored to win the game,

698
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 1: and of course a borrow from Yu Steve. The Braves

699
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: have been knacked this season of getting the least out

700
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: of every single rally, and Olsen didn't have a great

701
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: play appearance. But like RBI ground out, it's fine there

702
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: like no double play, no force at at home. You

703
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 1: score a run and now you have second and third

704
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 1: for Ronnie with one out. I gotta be honest with you, Stephen.

705
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: I was shocked that they pitched Irani. I don't know

706
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: why I pitched Irani. If I was a Phillies fan,

707
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 1: I would have been pulling my hair out, like why

708
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: you pitched the Ronalcuna right now? But Ronn had a

709
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: pretty bad at bat by his standards struck out looking,

710
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: so that worked out for them. They and walk Ozzie,

711
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: which makes sense because it's a lefty pitching to face

712
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: Michael Harris and his lefty splits are are what they are,

713
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: even though he's been hot recently, and he grounds out.

714
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: So that that was the end of the inning, and

715
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: I gotta be I thought they were gonna lose the game.

716
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: Almost certainly they had tied the game, but I was like,

717
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: all right, that's that's one of those that we'll be

718
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: talking about on the podcast later tonight. And then the

719
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: Baldwin things happens moments later. So strange thing. I brought

720
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: it up to twist the knife at you. Yeah, they

721
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: hit but a Brewan for Sean Murphy. I don't know

722
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: what it did.

723
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: I looked at I looked it up just to make

724
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 2: sure I wasn't crazy. Yeah, but del Bruhan for his

725
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,959
Speaker 2: career as a fifty two WRC plus, which is lower

726
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 2: than which is lower than Nick Allen.

727
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: By the way, yeah, he's he's not a very good hitter.

728
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: And just so everybody knows, I will say it. I

729
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: will say it out loud. Sean Murphy's been a pretty

730
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: bad hitter for a couple of months now. Sure, I'll

731
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: acknowledge that, certainly, even I know we are high on

732
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: Murphy compared to the consensus, or we compared to Angry

733
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 1: Braves fans, but I still don't understand why you would

734
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: hit Vinoprahn for him. So if you want to hit

735
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: ballin for him, whatever, But also the plan was clearly

736
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: you hit ballin for Allen, which makes sense. Nick Allen

737
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: should be pinch it for any situation that you could

738
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Speaker 1: possibly imagine at the end of the game. As long

739
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: as you have someone on your bench who can play shortstop,

740
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: you have to hit for Nick out. That's how bad

741
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: of a hitter he is. So that makes sense. But

742
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: you didn't need to do anyway, we could move on.

743
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: It's not a playoff podcast. If this is a playoff

744
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: show and that happened, it would have been thirty minutes.

745
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: What about a thirty minute discussion and we won't do

746
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: that now. Hey, shout up to John Brevia, who's back

747
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: on the roster and he pitched today in a one

748
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: run game.

749
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: So well, Actually September honestly might be like a game

750
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 2: show of like, who do you think pitched today for

751
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: the Braves? And do you know where that player was?

752
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 2: Ten days ago?

753
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: John Brevia was in Guinnett because he was actually quite

754
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: good in Guinnette. I don't know why I know that,

755
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: but I do, but it was. Yeah, thege actually had

756
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: a great bullet means as good as Waldrop was. The

757
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: bullpen was just as good. They allowed one hit. It

758
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: was kind of funny. The only hit allowed by the

759
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: bullpen was by Dylan Dodd and it was a triple

760
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: to Kyle sh Weerber, who's not fleet of foot. If

761
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: you causs you didn't about Coylee Robber, He's good at

762
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 1: many things, running not one of those things. I'm mutually

763
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: pull up his stack cast sprint speed right now. He

764
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: is fourteenth percentile in sprint and sprint speed that's quite slow.

765
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: Was that just like out to like the Bermuda triangle

766
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: out there there?

767
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was in the right spot.

768
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: I mean it was not really like it's not really

769
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: like a triple's park.

770
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: No, it was just in the right spot. It's hard

771
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: to describe, but it was. It was an odd situation. Also,

772
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: Dodd threw three pitches total and got an out and

773
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 1: a lot of triple it was. It was a measure.

774
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: And then Tyler Kinley, who's been Who's been good? We

775
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: mentioned it on the show last week, but twer Kinley

776
00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: been good. And then the Glacis has been awesome honestly recently, Uh,

777
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: speaking of guys who have saved their season long outputs,

778
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: Rysell's era is down to three point eight.

779
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: I can't believe he's pitching for the Braves.

780
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: I mean I can't either. We did that rant a

781
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: lot about a month ago now, but at one point

782
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: in the season and it was like, pretty deep in

783
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: the season, his era was like in the high sixes,

784
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: and now it's down to the threes and dropping. Like

785
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: He's been really really good for about I don't know,

786
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: two and a half three months now. And it doesn't matter,

787
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: of course, for anything that matters for the Braves, but

788
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: it happened. I'm sure.

789
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 2: I'm sure his agent appreciates it.

790
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm confident in his agent is love and the

791
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: fact that he's staying on the Braves and it's pitching well,

792
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: because that will help a person his next deal, whether

793
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: and by the way, there's legitimate conversations that will be

794
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: had about whether he should come back with the Braves.

795
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: We'll save that or later on a break. The Braves

796
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: are going to be a team that could sign him.

797
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: And people are gonna hate it, and.

798
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 3: I get it.

799
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: But if you look, this is just a shade or

800
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: the surface about like what he has been for a

801
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: lot of the season. He's been good. All right, Steve,

802
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you out here. It's late, but a

803
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: little bit of a preview people. I'm sure I know

804
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: we have the sickos, and I mean that in a loving,

805
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: endearing way. Who will listen to this before first pitch

806
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 1: on Monday, the Braves play in Chicago, gets the cups,

807
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: so they have to fly from Philadelphia late night and

808
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: play a four o'clock game, three o'clock local game in

809
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: Chicago on Labor Day. The reason that game is interesting

810
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: beyond normal things is it special Strider's pitching, and they

811
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: gave him an extra day of rest, which they've been doing.

812
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: They ran sixpamenation for a while. They've taken quantrol out

813
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: of it. They put sale in it, but they had

814
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: they had the reason to do that. But it was

815
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: a clearly a calculated decision to give Strider an extra day.

816
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: He was on track to pitch this weekend. He didn't pitch,

817
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: but he threw really well, which you guys broke down

818
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: this last week on the show. But what do you

819
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: make of that? And also like just studying in the stage,

820
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: he is probably the headline of t action on when

821
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: they affter it.

822
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, so pitching it. Wrigly is a bit like its

823
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 2: own world. There's not really another park like it where

824
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: the wind so drastically impacts how the park plays.

825
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it can.

826
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Speaker 2: It can be literally an extreme hitters park or an

827
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Speaker 2: extreme pitcher's park, and it can change like hour to hour.

828
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Speaker 2: I would actually be it actually seems like it'd be

829
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Speaker 2: pretty miserable to have to pitch there all the time.

830
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: So like when we wake up in the morning, you know,

831
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 2: first thing you're gonna see is somebody tweet about, you know,

832
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 2: what the win's doing at Wrigley, and that's going to

833
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 2: impact how the game goes. And I guarantee you if

834
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 2: you're pitching that day, you want to know that information.

835
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: So the park is going to play a factor. The

836
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 2: Cubs are one of the top probably five offenses in

837
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 2: baseball this year. They have been just I'm not going

838
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: to say, like a top one percent outcome for them,

839
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: but offensively, probably like a top five or ten percent

840
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: outcome for them, given their talent level. I did not

841
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: see this coming. You know, Pete crow Armstrong had that

842
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 2: incredible first half. Him and Michael Harris have kind of

843
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: done this opposite.

844
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

845
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 2: He hasn't been quite as good, but you know, they've

846
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: got a really good lineup and that's gonna be tough.

847
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: And if the wind's blown out tomorrow, they hit a

848
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: lot of homers. You know, Spencer's gonna have to be

849
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: very good. And we watched him make adjustments in his

850
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: last outing. We broke it down. So this is gonna

851
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: be another data point to see if he's mixing up

852
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: his pitches more, how much he throws the fastball, where

853
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: he's throwing the fastball every time he pitches. Now to

854
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: the end of the season, it's gonna be an interesting

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Speaker 2: thing to watch.

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Speaker 1: I just realized the Cubs played on Sunday in Colorado. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and didn't get an off day coming back either, so

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Speaker 1: a kind of a new kind of I'll call that

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Speaker 1: a neutral game state. The Brace played later in the day,

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Speaker 1: but the Cubs had to fly back in Colorado, so

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Speaker 1: that's not as bad as it seems on paper. I'm

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Speaker 1: assuming they're only playing at this laper day because otherwise

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Speaker 1: why would why would they not be playing because they

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Speaker 1: have the Brace of Thursday off, So I don't know

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Speaker 1: if the Cubs do, but regardless, we'll get to all

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Speaker 1: of that later on this week. It's a three game

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Speaker 1: series in Chicago, and then the Braves come back home

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Speaker 1: for three straight series at home after this one, so

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Speaker 1: a long home stand and the Cubs are good to

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Speaker 1: your point, so not quite the same spoiler energy that

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Speaker 1: it is when you're playing the Phillies. It's a little

872
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: bit easier to root for losses. If you are that

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00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: kind of fan that wants to root for a draft position,

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00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: you probably could do that a little bit easier against

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00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: the Cubs when the efictional investment is less because it's

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Speaker 1: the next set. In fact, they don't play the Phillies

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Speaker 1: or Mets again this year. Famously, They're done with Phillies,

878
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: done with Mets. It's all normal non blood rival teams

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Speaker 1: other than Washington. Washington's been bad for so long now

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Speaker 1: that I don't know about you, Steve My My personal

881
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: vitriol for the Nationals is pretty low at this point.

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Speaker 1: I don't hate then, I don't. The current Nationals don't

883
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Speaker 1: move me in any direction. I think it.

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Speaker 2: Goes Mets, Phillies, Marlins, Nationals.

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Speaker 1: For me, Yeah, I Mets and Phillies are one, A,

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00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: one B that I could change by the day. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think Marlin's, given the recent history, are ahead of

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Speaker 1: the Nationals and that that's that's changed. The Nationals. When

889
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: they were good, you know, there was some Yeah.

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Speaker 2: When they had Harper and Soto, Yeah, it was different, but.

891
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Speaker 1: Not not anymore. They do see them play, they do

892
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: see them two more series, but it's it's Cubs, Mariners, Cubs, Astros, Nationals, Tigers, Nationals, Pirates.

893
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Speaker 1: Not a ton of juice, honestly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a weird that's a weird collection of teams

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Speaker 2: d end this season.

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Speaker 1: It is. But hey, and we're still not playing for

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Speaker 1: anything at the end of the season, all right, Stephen,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you doing this with me on a Sunday.

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Speaker 1: You're not like pinch hitting, but like it's not our

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Speaker 1: normal thing. So I appreciate your flexibility. Uh, for folks

901
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: that may not already follow your work. If we've had

902
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: if someone found us that was perhaps a Phillies fan

903
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: from the follows the Philly Show, where can they find

904
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Speaker 1: all your music on social media?

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Speaker 2: See yeah, b Underscore Outliers is the X handle. If

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00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: you want to come talk about the Braves, you want

907
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 2: to talk about how bad Alabama football is, we can that.

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Speaker 1: I listen, I have great discipline. Sean would have brought

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Speaker 1: it up forty five minutes ago.

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Speaker 2: He's texting me four times.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he has and I, uh, we got a

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Speaker 1: YouTube comment and now that word in the show, we

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Speaker 1: could brief this step now a YouTube comment that was

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Speaker 1: like college football, this is the right place for this,

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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking it was the end of the show,

916
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Speaker 1: like it's we live in the South, Like it's just

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Speaker 1: kind of what people do in the.

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Speaker 2: South, like especially when the Brads are terrible.

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Speaker 1: The Brads are terrible. Look, we're not gonna pivot to

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Speaker 1: college football talk on the podcast. If we ever do it,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna at the end of the show like like

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Speaker 1: we are right now. But I wasn't gonna bring it

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Speaker 1: up to you at any point, but you brought it up,

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Speaker 1: so it was this isn't the best.

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Speaker 2: Listen. My twenties and thirties were spent winning like a

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Speaker 2: national championship every three years, So I had people, I

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Speaker 2: had people tweeting at me like, you know, sorry about

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Speaker 2: you know, guys, I have been I've experienced more winning

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Speaker 2: than most people do in their lifetime. So if we

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Speaker 2: if we're gonna suck for a.

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Speaker 1: Few years, it is that's a very rational uh are

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Speaker 1: you sure? Are you? Are you sure? From the South?

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Speaker 2: I also I also have the joy of like being

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Speaker 2: a big college basketball fan, which a lot of people

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Speaker 2: in my fan base aren't.

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 2: They live and die by the football team, and when

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Speaker 2: the football team's bad, they have to wait a whole

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Speaker 2: another year to care about anything. I don't exist that way.

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Speaker 2: I have other sports that.

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Speaker 1: I love, and Alabama basketball is good.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, Alabama basketball very good. The Falcons are about

943
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Speaker 2: to start back up, which.

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Speaker 1: Let's not talk about that because that's that's that's that's

945
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 1: our that's our other you and I share two teams

946
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Speaker 1: and well three teams. But uh, my Hawks fandom is

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Speaker 1: longy I cover.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really consider you a Hawks fan. You

949
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Speaker 2: cover the team.

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Speaker 1: I used to be a Hawks fan and now I

951
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: cover the team. It's different, it's much different. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: that's a different story. Steven, thank you for being here.

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Speaker 1: As everybody else, Please subscribe to Hammer Territory anywhere you

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