WEBVTT - Up, Up and Away: The Superman Heist

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<v Speaker 1>Fireheart originals. This is an iHeart original.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone has a place they retreat to when they need

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<v Speaker 2>to recharge. It could be your bedroom, your library, your porch.

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<v Speaker 2>For Superman, it's his fortress of solitude, the retreat carved

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<v Speaker 2>out of ice in the Arctic. For Mike Meyer, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the basement of his home in the small town of

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<v Speaker 2>Granite City, Illinois. Mike is in his late forties, and

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<v Speaker 2>for as long as he can remember, he has loved Superman.

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<v Speaker 2>He bought his first comic as a ten year old

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<v Speaker 2>when they were just twenty cents. He loves the nobility

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<v Speaker 2>of Superman, his desire to do good things. He buys

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<v Speaker 2>as many comics, toys, and other collectibles as he can.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not easy. Not a wealthy collector. Mike has been

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<v Speaker 2>collecting Social Security for an intellectual disability since he was

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<v Speaker 2>in his twenties. He works part time at a McDonald's

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<v Speaker 2>in nearby Collinsville, but over time he's still amassed a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty cool collection, over eighteen hundred items. There's stuff everywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>but a lot of it fills the basement of his home.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't get down here as often as he'd like.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike's knees give him problems, and navigating the stairs is hard,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's worth it so he can be near his friend,

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<v Speaker 2>his favorite fictional character. But today isn't like other days. Today,

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<v Speaker 2>when Mike turns on the light, he's astonished to see

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<v Speaker 2>the shelves are practically bare. The comics, the toys, the

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<v Speaker 2>decades of collecting gone. Someone didn't just rob Mike of

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<v Speaker 2>his stuff. They robbed him of the one thing that

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<v Speaker 2>brought him most of his happiness. Thinking of Mike in

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<v Speaker 2>that moment, you wish you could tell him what happens next,

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<v Speaker 2>tell him that something amazing is going to come out

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<v Speaker 2>of this. But right now, all Mike can do is

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<v Speaker 2>wonder what happens when you lose everything that matters. Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to Very Special Episodes and iHeart original podcast. I'm your

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<v Speaker 2>host Danish Sports and this is Up, Up and Away.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, everybody, it's Jason English here. We've got something a

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<v Speaker 3>little different this week. A couple of years ago, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of the people who work on this podcast Very

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<v Speaker 3>Special Episodes made another podcast called Stealing Superman. Dana hosted

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<v Speaker 3>that one. It was written by Jake Rosson, Josh Fisher,

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<v Speaker 3>John Washington, Beheid Frasier, All the greats who work here

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<v Speaker 3>behind the scenes worked on that as well. Stealing Superman

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<v Speaker 3>is about a comic book heist that takes place at

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<v Speaker 3>Nicholas Cage's bel Air mansion and follows the decade long

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<v Speaker 3>odyssey to get his comics back. During that show, we

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<v Speaker 3>made a bonus episode about a different Superman heist that, frankly,

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<v Speaker 3>not a lot of people listen to. You put bonus

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<v Speaker 3>in the title, and I guess people feel it's safe

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<v Speaker 3>to skip. But it is a wonderful story, a great

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<v Speaker 3>standalone episode, and now that we're getting a nice audience

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<v Speaker 3>for what we're doing over here, I wanted to re

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<v Speaker 3>up that as a very special episode. If you haven't

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<v Speaker 3>gotten around to Stealing Superman yet, that's okay. There's no spoilers.

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<v Speaker 3>It's truly its own story, and I hope you enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 2>Over to you, Dana, There's no doubting a Superman was

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Meyer's favorite pop culture character. His parents took him

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<v Speaker 2>to see the first Christopher Reeve movie in nineteen seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 2>His most prized possession, a twelve inch tall Captain action

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<v Speaker 2>doll with Superman's costume, was acquired not long before Mike

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<v Speaker 2>likes to draw too, and Superman was always taking shape

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<v Speaker 2>on paper, his pencil forming a cape and the s.

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<v Speaker 2>One of his dogs was named Crypto, after Superman's pets.

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<v Speaker 2>If you knew Mike, you knew he loved Superman as

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<v Speaker 2>much as he did when he was a boy, and

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<v Speaker 2>eventually that turned out to be a problem. Before Mike

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<v Speaker 2>started working at McDonald's, he held a job at another

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<v Speaker 2>fast food chain, Hearty's, in the nineteen nineties. While he

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<v Speaker 2>worked there, he struck up a conversation with a coworker

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<v Speaker 2>named Jerry, and naturally, the talk turned to Superman. Mike

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<v Speaker 2>and Jerry lost touch for a long time. Then in

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<v Speaker 2>August of twenty eleven, Mike ran into Jerry at a

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<v Speaker 2>comic book shop in Granite City. Jerry remembered Mike and

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<v Speaker 2>his collection. He asked if he could come over and

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<v Speaker 2>see it. Mike wasn't sure. It's not that Jerry was

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<v Speaker 2>a bad guy, It's just that they weren't really friends,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe something about Jerry didn't seem right. So Mike

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<v Speaker 2>said he was busy, sorry, maybe another time, But Jerry

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't taking no for an answer. He got Mike's number

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<v Speaker 2>and called him. Couldn't he please please come over and

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<v Speaker 2>take a look. He was in the neighborhood, he could

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<v Speaker 2>come right over. Mike said, okay, and a few moments

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<v Speaker 2>later Jay showed up. He wanted the tour, so Mike

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<v Speaker 2>showed him everything. The comics of which he had hundreds,

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<v Speaker 2>all the way back to issue number ninety nine, the toys,

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<v Speaker 2>the action figures tacked to his wall, the lunch boxes

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<v Speaker 2>and posters and shirts, even the handsown Superman costume Mike

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<v Speaker 2>had tucked in his closet. Jerry was impressed. He left,

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike thought that was the end of it. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he even felt some pride in showing off his collection.

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<v Speaker 2>The next night, Jerry was back, this time with his girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>He wondered if Mike would like to watch a movie

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<v Speaker 2>all three of them, and Mike, being a non confrontational

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<v Speaker 2>kind of person, said fine. He noticed Jerry got up

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<v Speaker 2>and left during the movie, leaving Mike and his girlfriend alone,

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<v Speaker 2>but he didn't think much of it. And then two

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<v Speaker 2>days later, Mike went into his basement expecting to find

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<v Speaker 2>everything the way it always was, everything arranged, everything in

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<v Speaker 2>its place, but it was all almost gone, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was obvious who had done it Jerry, his supposed friend.

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<v Speaker 2>He reported the theft to police, but he didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>know much about Jerry, just that they had worked at

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<v Speaker 2>Harty's years ago, and that he drove a silver car

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<v Speaker 2>When he apparently filled up with thousands of dollars worth

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<v Speaker 2>of Mike's Superman collection. Someone tipped off local reporters, and

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<v Speaker 2>pretty soon Mike was giving interviews, expressing regret that he

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<v Speaker 2>had ever let Jerry into his house, his fortress, that

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<v Speaker 2>the things Jerry had taken had meant a lot to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Keith Howard was one of the people who read about Mica.

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<v Speaker 2>The story had been picked up by local newspapers in

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<v Speaker 2>and around Granite City and in nearby Saint Louis, Missouri,

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<v Speaker 2>and already people were trying to contact Mike to send

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<v Speaker 2>him things. Keith was a nurse and a fellow Superman fan.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, he had taken to making personal appearances in

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<v Speaker 2>costume at the Saint Louis Children's Hospital with a costume

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<v Speaker 2>tailored after his favorite Superman, George Reeves. Keith saw the

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<v Speaker 2>story on the super Friends of Metropolis Facebook group, which

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<v Speaker 2>keeps Superman fans in touch with each other before, during,

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<v Speaker 2>and after the annual celebration in Metropolis, Illinois, every year.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the group's members, Don Janie, posted the story

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<v Speaker 2>here's Keith.

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<v Speaker 1>I just kind of got a gut feeling that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is our wrong thing to happen, and the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that he had this metal challenge made just that much

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<v Speaker 1>more despicable.

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<v Speaker 2>Like most people who heard the story, Keith felt it

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<v Speaker 2>in his bones. Burglarizing someone is one thing, but someone

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<v Speaker 2>as trusting as Mike and sealing a collection of Superman

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<v Speaker 2>stuff it was ugly. Keith had never met Mike, never

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<v Speaker 2>heard of him until the story, but he decided something

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<v Speaker 2>ought to be done about it, so he made a

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<v Speaker 2>post of his own in the group.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, how would you guys feel if we took

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<v Speaker 1>up a collection and people could just give what they

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<v Speaker 1>want to get? Maybe send a card, send a note,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a Superman Action figure that you've got

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<v Speaker 1>land around that you wouldn't mind donating, or just anything,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Just kind of threw that out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Just getting some unwanted comics or inexpensive toys would have

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<v Speaker 2>been plenty generous, but that's not what happened. The first

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<v Speaker 2>thing Keith got took him by surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>So we set up a time and I then posted

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<v Speaker 1>to everybody that here's my address, and posted on our page.

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<v Speaker 1>That address got out to people that I have no

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<v Speaker 1>way of knowing how they got it, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, within three four days, I got my first delivery.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was an envelope like they had an eight

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<v Speaker 1>x ten in it, and it was from Noel Neil.

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<v Speaker 1>She was the Lois Lane from the TV show Adventures

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<v Speaker 1>of Superman and she was still alive. She was like

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<v Speaker 1>eighty nine back then, and it was a autographed picture

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<v Speaker 1>of her with George Reeves in costume, and she signed

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<v Speaker 1>it Noel Neil, Lois Lane or Lois I think it

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<v Speaker 1>quotes to Mike. And I was like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even have one of those. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, oh man, this is we we just I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they came out swinging already. This is such a cool

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<v Speaker 1>first gifts. And if that's the only gift that he gets,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he would treasure it forever.

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<v Speaker 2>But that was far from the only gift.

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<v Speaker 1>And so then the next day there was like three boxes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the next day there'd be three or four

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<v Speaker 1>more boxes, and every day I'd come home, there would

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<v Speaker 1>be boxes and boxes laid up outside my door.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't just fans sending in stuff either.

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<v Speaker 1>DC Headquarters has sent me two big, heavy boxes. One

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<v Speaker 1>of them was a run like a series of comics

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<v Speaker 1>that was run from like I don't know. This box

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<v Speaker 1>had to be maybe twenty four long and sixteen wide

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<v Speaker 1>and sixteen tall. Maybe it was full of comics. And

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<v Speaker 1>they said those were all the comics in that run

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<v Speaker 1>of stories. They were all brand new. They were all

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<v Speaker 1>wrapped in the the plastic that you wrapped comics in.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the other one was a bunch of like collectibles,

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<v Speaker 1>figurines and plush dolls and the little bubble heads. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there were some really expensive stuff in that other box too,

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<v Speaker 1>that came from DC Headquarters. How'd they find out, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Something about Mike's story resonated with people the way it

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<v Speaker 2>had resonated with Keith. More than eighty boxes of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>poured in from everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Things were coming from all over the world. Am I

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<v Speaker 1>mean When I say all over the world, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>pictures painting, Like people were painting pictures of Mike because

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<v Speaker 1>they saw an image of Mike in the newspaper, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were coming from like China and Brazil and Chile

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<v Speaker 1>and the Netherlands, and I'm like, oh my gosh, this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't just local. This story has got international.

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<v Speaker 2>And as it piled up, Keith began thinking about what

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<v Speaker 2>he was going to do with all of it. He'd

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<v Speaker 2>give it all to Mike, of course, but how.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just kind of broached the idea, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how cool would it be if this guy got a

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<v Speaker 1>visit from quote Superman bearing some gifts of some sort.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, and says, I lived so close, I

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<v Speaker 1>can show up as Superman. I'll do all the legwork

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<v Speaker 1>here locally, I'll find where he is at, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>deliver these gifts.

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<v Speaker 2>Keith reached out to Bill Smith, a friend of Mike's,

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<v Speaker 2>and told him what he had planned to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill told me that Mike worked as a I think

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<v Speaker 1>the title ist porter for the McDonald's in Collinsville, which

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<v Speaker 1>was literally like fifteen minutes from my house. And I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>how cool would it be to make this delivery at

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<v Speaker 1>his work? So I called them, and I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>his manager, this young lady, and explained again who I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's kind of always you know, apprehensive to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you first. But the minute they heard what our intent was,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody just overwhelmingly was like, oh my gosh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>so cool. So she broke down crying. She was in

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<v Speaker 1>tears the whole conversation, and I said, I'm anxious to

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<v Speaker 1>meet Mike. You know, I've talked to his friend Bill

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<v Speaker 1>and this story. You know, it was ugly. Bill even

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<v Speaker 1>told me, you know, Mike just feels so depressed. Bill's

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<v Speaker 1>hoping that this kind of brings him out of that depression.

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<v Speaker 2>And Keith wasn't alone.

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<v Speaker 1>In the meantime, I've got a couple of people on

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<v Speaker 1>my page, this Facebook Superfrins page that had volunteered to

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<v Speaker 1>dress up in costume and be there to make the

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<v Speaker 1>delivery as well, including Don Chance, the guy who shared

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<v Speaker 1>the post. So I said, okay, let's go ahead, and

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. One of the guys was taking pictures of everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are about five of us, including my daughter

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<v Speaker 1>who dressed out a Supergirl, that went to make this delivery.

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<v Speaker 1>This will be the first time I've ever met Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>They're expecting us. He doesn't have any idea that we're coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank goodness, you didn't stumble the process on the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a couple weeks after the darkest day in Mike's life,

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<v Speaker 2>Keith pulled up to the McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 1>And we get there and there's some news media there,

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<v Speaker 1>and the store people are just all like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's so cool. And we take pictures at the front

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<v Speaker 1>counter with Mike and he's I don't know him well

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<v Speaker 1>enough to know how to read his reaction. Later he

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<v Speaker 1>would tell me that it was just like the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>thing that he'd ever experienced, and how depressed he was

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<v Speaker 1>prior to that, and then for him to see Superman,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he kept calling me Superman standing right there

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<v Speaker 1>in his store and telling him that he was there

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<v Speaker 1>to make delivery was just more than he could process.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Keith showed up with everything, the dozens of boxes they

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<v Speaker 2>were all for him, a bunch of awesome things given

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<v Speaker 2>to him by complete strangers. Mike was overwhelmed. Keith helped

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<v Speaker 2>him take it all back to his house with multiple

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<v Speaker 2>cars full of Superman items, a caravan of generosity, and

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<v Speaker 2>little by little, Keith got to know more about Mike

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<v Speaker 2>that deep down he identified more with another pop culture character.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to be decent friends after all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and he would open up to me and he would

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<v Speaker 1>share some thoughts that he had about himself and his

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<v Speaker 1>life and who he was. And Mike was a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a sad person. Unfortunately, Mike, he always wanted a girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>He had had a girlfriend, you years ago. The things

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work out, and he was he was lonely, and

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<v Speaker 1>he shared that with me. And Mike sort of lived

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<v Speaker 1>in the fifties and sixties. Still in his house were

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of DVDs of Popeye and the Monsters and

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<v Speaker 1>you know those old TV shows, obviously Superman and Batman,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said he would just watch that over and

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<v Speaker 1>over all the time. He said, you know, you know

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<v Speaker 1>who I really connected with and who I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I am most like. He said, I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like Herman Muster, just kind of big and clumsy and misunderstood,

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<v Speaker 1>and that he would do the laugh, you know, Herman

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<v Speaker 1>Muster had a kind of a unique laugh and he

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<v Speaker 1>imitated very well.

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<v Speaker 2>Keith left thinking that would be the end of it,

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<v Speaker 2>but it wasn't. There was another twist coming. Mike's friend

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<v Speaker 2>turned foe, Jerry, turned out to be a serial offender,

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<v Speaker 2>just a month or so after stealing Mike's collection, he

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<v Speaker 2>was accused of robbing an elderly man he was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be doing renovations for. That led to the police,

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<v Speaker 2>which led to their discovery of Mike's stolen Superman items.

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<v Speaker 2>Authorities were able to return virtually everything Jerry stole from him.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Mike had a problem, although for a Superman fan

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<v Speaker 2>it was the best kind of problem to have.

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<v Speaker 1>So you got eighty five gifts from us, this many

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<v Speaker 1>gifts from Cleveland, you know. So now he's got like

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<v Speaker 1>extras of everything. And he calls me up one day

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<v Speaker 1>and he says, Keith, I am starting to feel guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I got all my stuff back, and you

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<v Speaker 1>guys all gave me stuff, and some people didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what the others were given. I got two or three

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<v Speaker 1>in the same thing, and I just have so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I just feel guilty. And I said Mike, first,

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<v Speaker 1>please don't feel guilty. Those people gave because they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to give. It made them feel good to give. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize they were giving you duplicates. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to sell those or give them away, by all means,

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<v Speaker 1>do what you want with them, and don't feel guilty

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<v Speaker 1>about them, and he said, yeah, yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody who donated to Mike wanted any of it back,

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<v Speaker 2>even after his collection had been returned to him. They

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<v Speaker 2>were happy to see him with all the Superman stuff

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<v Speaker 2>he could fit in his house. So Keith made a suggestion.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, well, let me tell you what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I go over to Saint Louis Children's Hospital

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<v Speaker 1>because I work at Barnes as a nurse in the

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<v Speaker 1>operating room. Every Wednesday, it's every two weeks or every month,

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<v Speaker 1>they have bingo for these kids. And I've been going

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<v Speaker 1>over there like twice a month, sometimes twice a month,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly at least once a month, and I dressed up

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<v Speaker 1>as Superman and I call bingo and it's so cool,

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<v Speaker 1>I said. You know, they have a camera and kids

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<v Speaker 1>will be in therapy or they'll be in their room

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<v Speaker 1>because they're too sick to come down to the big

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<v Speaker 1>playroom where we're at doing the bigo day. So they're

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<v Speaker 1>watching me call off the bingo and then they'll call

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<v Speaker 1>the room and they'll say I got bingo, and so

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll run the board and yeah, yeah, that's bingo.

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<v Speaker 1>And so then the camera pans over to this table

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<v Speaker 1>that's got three tiers to it, and on every tier

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<v Speaker 1>there's all these donated gifts. And I said, Mike, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought just came to me, and this is just an idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I can talk to these guys and ask

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<v Speaker 1>them if they'd be okay with it. But maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>could come with me to one of these bingo days

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<v Speaker 1>and you could bring a couple of those things that

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<v Speaker 1>you got as extra. And so if you've got like

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<v Speaker 1>extra comics that are new went nice, and maybe like

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<v Speaker 1>you've got like two or three of the same action

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<v Speaker 1>figure and you want to donate that to these kids.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you feel about that? He said, Oh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful idea.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end of twenty eleven, Mike and Keith went

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<v Speaker 2>to Saint Louis Children's Hospital bearing gifts, a lot of gifts.

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<v Speaker 2>Keith was in costume, but Mike was the hero, wearing

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<v Speaker 2>a Superman T shirt and a big smile. They played

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<v Speaker 2>bingo with the patients, handing out prizes. That something so

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<v Speaker 2>good had come out of what happened was indescribable. Maybe

0:21:43.802 --> 0:21:47.202
<v Speaker 2>Mike saw flashes of himself in those kids. Maybe he

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<v Speaker 2>turned some of them into lifelong Superman fans that day.

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<v Speaker 1>So I called them and they said, sure, yeah, come on.

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<v Speaker 1>So one Wednesday we went up to Sales Children's Hospital

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<v Speaker 1>and we called Bigo and I introduced the group there

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<v Speaker 1>to Mike, who was the reason why all that Superman

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<v Speaker 1>stuff was there, and he was given that to them,

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<v Speaker 1>and they just showered Mike with love, and Mike felt

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<v Speaker 1>like the king of the world that day. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just loved it because here's a guy who just stood

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of months earlier, was depressed, felt big and

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<v Speaker 1>clumsy and unloved and everything was going wrong for him.

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<v Speaker 1>To now people are making a fuss over just being

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<v Speaker 1>around him. They have special events and people come and

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<v Speaker 1>turn up for it to meet him.

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<v Speaker 2>Around the same time, Mike had gotten an invitation to

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<v Speaker 2>visit Cleveland, Ohio, the home of Jerry Siegel and Joe Schuster,

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<v Speaker 2>the co creators of Superman. A comic book store owner

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<v Speaker 2>named John Dudas offered to pay for the trip.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh my gosh, you guys can't

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<v Speaker 1>be serious, and he said yeah, and we've included airfare

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<v Speaker 1>for two all expenses paid. Three days We've got your hotel,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got your meals, we've got your transferation. And whilst

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<v Speaker 1>Mike gets here, I have six other comic bookstores in

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<v Speaker 1>the area. All have donated a fifty dollars gift certificate

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<v Speaker 1>that Mike can go, and we will take you to

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<v Speaker 1>all six of these comic stores and he can spend

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<v Speaker 1>that gift certificate in every comic bookstore that donated.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike was excited. He really wanted to go, but Mike

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<v Speaker 2>worried his close friend Bill Smith might not be able

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<v Speaker 2>to accompany him.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point, I pulled Mike aside and I said, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to know that in one of these

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<v Speaker 1>boxes there are airline tickets for two to go to Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, I've never flown before and I said

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<v Speaker 1>I wondered about that. Yeah, I said are you Are

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<v Speaker 1>you still interested in going? And he said, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>who am I going to take. I said, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>talk to your friend Bill Smith. I know you're good

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<v Speaker 1>friends with Bill. Maybe Bill kids and get some time

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<v Speaker 1>off work and he go with you. He kind of

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<v Speaker 1>paused and he said, you're like George Reeves to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, well, that is the costume I'm were

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, yeah, I recognize that costume. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>I never got to meet George Reeves, obviously, but he said,

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<v Speaker 1>in a weird way, I feel like I'm talking to

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<v Speaker 1>him standing here talking to you. And I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what to say to that. Mike. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it's flattering that that you know, you would think

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<v Speaker 1>that I look enough like him, and and but I

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<v Speaker 1>get it, I know what you mean. And I said

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I've had a number of people tell me

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<v Speaker 1>that I sort of have brought that childhood character back

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<v Speaker 1>to life for them. He said, what about you? And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, what do you mean? He said, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that remember that episode where Superman takes that girl

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<v Speaker 1>and he flies her around and he gives her like

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<v Speaker 1>a tour from the air. And he said, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you can't live, but if you flew with me to Cleveland,

0:25:09.802 --> 0:25:12.042
<v Speaker 1>it would be kind of like that episode with that girl.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, Mike, if Bill can't go, I'd be honored.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be honored to go. And he said, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like you to go. And I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I just met Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike and Keith went to Cleveland and got the full tour,

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<v Speaker 2>They saw the boyhood home of Jerry, saw the tributes

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<v Speaker 2>to Superman. Mike even sat down at the same table

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<v Speaker 2>where Joe Schuster used to draw Superman, and the community's

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<v Speaker 2>affection for Mike didn't stop there, not even close.

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Ralth from Superman returns back in two thousand and six.

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<v Speaker 1>He finds out about this Mike story and he is

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<v Speaker 1>somehow he finds Mike's phone number and calls Mike on

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<v Speaker 1>the telephone and for thirty minutes Brandon Ralph talks to

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Meyer on the phone. He told me, oh my gosh, Keeeth,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you how cool that was. I got

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to Superman for a half hour, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, Mike, that is amazing. And then a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks after we came back from Cleveland, Mike gets

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<v Speaker 1>a letter from or call from Warner Brothers. They're making

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<v Speaker 1>a Man of Steel movie with Henry Cavill and they

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<v Speaker 1>tell Mike that they heard about his story and they

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<v Speaker 1>would love to fly him and the person of his

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<v Speaker 1>choice to Georgia Air Force Base or Edwards, one of

0:26:42.602 --> 0:26:45.002
<v Speaker 1>those out in California where they were filming this tarmac

0:26:45.042 --> 0:26:50.602
<v Speaker 1>scene and They said, bring whoever you want. We would

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<v Speaker 1>like to have you on the set that day and

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<v Speaker 1>you'll get to meet Henry in costume. And sure enough,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike goes out there. He is sitting in like one

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<v Speaker 1>of those director's chairs, and he gets to meet Henry Cavill.

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<v Speaker 2>It was well, it was perfect. It's how you want

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<v Speaker 2>all stories like this to end. Mike became something of

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<v Speaker 2>a celebrity. Jerry was sentenced to six years in prison

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<v Speaker 2>for his theft of Mike's stuff as well as the

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<v Speaker 2>other incident, and Mike and Keith stayed friends.

0:27:22.362 --> 0:27:26.002
<v Speaker 1>Things kind of died down after all that. Obviously, Mike

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<v Speaker 1>got his stuff back and goes back to life as normal.

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<v Speaker 1>But Mike's normal as a new normal now. He starts

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<v Speaker 1>going to Metropolis every year. He asked me to help

0:27:34.842 --> 0:27:37.722
<v Speaker 1>him make a Superman costume, which I did. It was

0:27:37.842 --> 0:27:41.802
<v Speaker 1>very meager, but he had to wear Superman out to Metropolis.

0:27:41.882 --> 0:27:43.602
<v Speaker 1>One year, he dressed up as Jimmy Olsen. In a

0:27:43.682 --> 0:27:46.642
<v Speaker 1>few years, people in Metropolis made a big fuss over

0:27:46.722 --> 0:27:49.762
<v Speaker 1>Mike like he had been everywhere else. All those friends

0:27:49.762 --> 0:27:52.362
<v Speaker 1>of Metropolis that donated and got to meet Mike in person.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty twenty two, Keith got a call from Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>That his health started going and he reached out to

0:27:59.482 --> 0:28:02.242
<v Speaker 1>me a few months ago. He asked me questions about

0:28:02.322 --> 0:28:05.042
<v Speaker 1>his kidneys. He knew I was a nurse and just

0:28:05.282 --> 0:28:10.562
<v Speaker 1>wanted to get advice, and I told him what I felt,

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<v Speaker 1>but had no idea he was so far gone because

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<v Speaker 1>after a few more calls of you know, just yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not Fianna Rouell, and then all of a sudden, I

0:28:23.402 --> 0:28:27.682
<v Speaker 1>hear the news that he's gone. I thought, man, the stings,

0:28:27.762 --> 0:28:29.362
<v Speaker 1>you know, I got robbed of my chance to at

0:28:29.442 --> 0:28:33.482
<v Speaker 1>least see him and say goodbye. And he just he

0:28:33.602 --> 0:28:34.842
<v Speaker 1>just was not there anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>In September of twenty twenty two, Mike Meyer passed away

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<v Speaker 2>at the age of fifty eight. The tribute came pouring in,

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<v Speaker 2>with people filling his Facebook feed with photos of Mike

0:28:47.082 --> 0:28:51.522
<v Speaker 2>at conventions, photos of Mike's artwork, or just sentiments from

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<v Speaker 2>people who miss Superman's biggest fan. There's an element of

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<v Speaker 2>this story that makes it easy to see why people

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<v Speaker 2>pulled for Mike. He had certain limitations in life, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's not the whole story. Superman is just a fiction character, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's an aspirational quality to him. It's hard to

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<v Speaker 2>be a fan of Superman and not want to emulate

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<v Speaker 2>what he stands for. Honesty, justice. People would have helped

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<v Speaker 2>Mike no matter what. But would it have been the

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<v Speaker 2>same if he collected punish our comics or baseball cards

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<v Speaker 2>or horror movies? Or did Superman bring something deeper out

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<v Speaker 2>of the people who heard Mike's story, something that led

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<v Speaker 2>people from around the world to write to him and

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<v Speaker 2>try to help replace what he had lost.

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<v Speaker 1>I got many calls from other news reporters and radio

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<v Speaker 1>celebrities wanted to interview me online. The story just got

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<v Speaker 1>so big, and finally asked somebody, I said, what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm thrilled that you guys are interested in

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<v Speaker 1>this story. I'm just curious, how is this a story

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<v Speaker 1>for you? What makes this a story for you? And

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<v Speaker 1>on more than one they said, we write about horrible

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<v Speaker 1>events daily, and we do year after year, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is so rare to have a feel good story. And

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<v Speaker 1>what you guys are doing is just like, when have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever heard about anything like this? When have you

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<v Speaker 1>seen a story similar to what you guys are living on?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, I don't remember reading a story like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said, that's what it is. It's rare, it

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<v Speaker 1>never happens. And so what you guys have done has

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<v Speaker 1>spread like wildfire because you've turned this out of a

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<v Speaker 1>situation into something beautiful. And the fact that I had

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<v Speaker 1>this connection to Superman and how Superman in portraying that

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<v Speaker 1>character made me want to do better and be better

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<v Speaker 1>and exemplify everything that Superman is the driving force as

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<v Speaker 1>much as anything.

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<v Speaker 2>When Mike's family organized his memorial, they told friends and

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<v Speaker 2>family to come wearing casual clothing or if they wanted

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<v Speaker 2>their favorite superhero costume.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a very special episode. At the end of

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<v Speaker 3>these we usually like to name a very special character.

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<v Speaker 3>Dana and Zaren are better at this than me, but

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<v Speaker 3>this time, almost everyone in this story could be nominated. Mike, Keith,

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<v Speaker 3>all the people who send stuff to Mike and Keith,

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<v Speaker 3>the staff at the Saint Louis Children's Hospital, Henry Cavill,

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<v Speaker 3>not Jerry. Jerry would not be in the running for

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<v Speaker 3>this particular honor, but there's a lot of people doing

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of good here. I will name Mike my

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<v Speaker 3>very special character. And if this was the first time

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<v Speaker 3>you've heard of the Stealing Superman podcast. The rest of

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<v Speaker 3>the show tells a very different story about a different

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<v Speaker 3>Superman heist. That one involves Nicholas Cage and his comic books,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can go and binge that one from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 3>and we will see you here next week. Very Special

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<v Speaker 3>Episodes is made by some very special people. This episode

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<v Speaker 3>was written by Jake Rawson. Our producer and sound designer

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<v Speaker 3>is Josh Fisher. Additional editing by John Washington, mixing and

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<v Speaker 3>mastering by Beheid Fraser. Original music by Alis McCoy. Show

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<v Speaker 3>logo by Nick Turbo Benson. Your hosts are Danish Swartz,

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<v Speaker 3>Zaron Burnett, and me Jason English. I'm your executive producer,

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