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Speaker 1: As a CEO in fashion authority, I know it's the

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Speaker 1: details that truly matter, and when it comes to luxury,

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Speaker 1: every stitch must be perfectly tailored. At Genesis, they've delivered

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Speaker 1: on every element of the GV eighty two line. Led

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Speaker 1: headlamps accentuate in exterior that exudes athletic elegance. Inside, discover

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Speaker 1: an expansive cabin with ambient lightning. Take a close look

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Speaker 1: at the Genesis GV eighty and you'll see lux is

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Speaker 1: in the details. Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and you're

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Speaker 1: listening to Climbing in Heels. The show is all about

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Speaker 1: celebrating the most extraordinary superwomen who will be sharing their

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Speaker 1: incredible journeys to the top, all while staying glamorous. Today

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Speaker 1: I'm speaking with English model, actress and all around one

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Speaker 1: of the coolest girls I know, Poppy Delvine. In this episode,

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Speaker 1: we talk about Poppy's childhood, what it was like being

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Speaker 1: the middle child, her admiration for adventure and travel, and

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Speaker 1: how she figured out what she wanted to do in

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Speaker 1: this crazy life. She has found incredible success in modeling

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Speaker 1: and now acting, and has just launched a brand of

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Speaker 1: prosecco called De Leviat with her two sisters.

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Speaker 2: I cannot wait for you to hear this interview.

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Speaker 1: I've always loved her so much, I love her even

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Speaker 1: more now and also found out something I really never knew,

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Speaker 1: so I continue to learn on these episodes as well.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to start this podcast because I really want

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Speaker 1: to celebrate women, and I want to celebrate amazing women,

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Speaker 1: and I want to celebrate the journey to sort of

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Speaker 1: other women will look at them and go, oh, she's

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Speaker 1: You know, and there's this perspective I think sometimes with

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Speaker 1: And I think for me, I've always been wanting to

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Speaker 1: Many different types of women that do so many incredible things.

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Speaker 3: There's an older brother that leads the tribe. He lives

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Speaker 1: a very well loved family in England.

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Speaker 1: And I know that you're very close with your father.

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Speaker 3: I'd walk out like or like, oh need actually told

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Speaker 3: That, you're all of that. And then also to get

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Speaker 3: I know, like and you would.

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Speaker 1: of those things where you know, there's a huge argument

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00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: to that now, because I don't think people should ever

440
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 1: be treated that way or ever put in those positions.

441
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 1: But I bet you would on the other side of

442
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 1: that probably argue and say, but it also kind of

443
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: prepped me for the world, because you know, you are

444
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: met with challenge and adversity and things don't really always

445
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: work out the way you dream that they will. So

446
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: I think there's this weird there's because I got my

447
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: ass kicked when I started working, you know, and I

448
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: talk about it in this way of like, you know,

449
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: I was told I was way too nice to ever

450
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: survive in fashion.

451
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 2: I was told like I.

452
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: Was, you know, accused of stealing when my boss was stealing.

453
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: It was like in her drawer and like in her

454
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So like there was so

455
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: many things. But then I go, you know.

456
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 2: What, though, it fucking made me.

457
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: It gave me my work ethic, It gave me my grit,

458
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: It gave me my skin.

459
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 2: It gave me like the.

460
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: Ability to like almost like function and come out of

461
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 1: the womb right like.

462
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,959
Speaker 3: Come it teaches me. It taught me so many things

463
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 3: exactly that you reach. I feel like even though at

464
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 3: the time it was tough and painful, but at the

465
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 3: same time, I'm also really and honestly truly grateful for it. Yeah,

466
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 3: because I don't think I would have gone on to

467
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 3: do some of the things that I ended up doing

468
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 3: without that kind of at this point, nothing would phase me, right,

469
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 3: I don't care you don't think I'm pretty. I don't care.

470
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 3: Like it's not It's totally irrelevant to what I want

471
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: to do and where I want to be placed in

472
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 3: this world.

473
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: And so then you so what point do you go, Okay, Like,

474
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm doing this now, it's going well, Right, I've met

475
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: some great people, I'm having fun, I'm living probably a

476
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 1: pretty fun life. Right at that point, it's probably around

477
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: when I met you, like at the Berberg Show and.

478
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 3: Like exactly it was at that time. Yeah, and i'd

479
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 3: started doing I was doing a little bit of runway.

480
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,959
Speaker 3: I was doing sort of campaigns for like and your

481
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 3: Homage or like A. But I was starting to work

482
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 3: with Schnell and I'd met col and so I had

483
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 3: sort of developed close bond with him, and you know,

484
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 3: but then you're a whole different stratosphere. And then it

485
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 3: was just god, a lot of fun, so gravel and

486
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 3: ventures and meeting me just brilliant, bold, beautiful people that

487
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: just who still to this day i'm so close to,

488
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 3: like you and and just sort of forming these really

489
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 3: you know, important relationships and wearing insane clothes and you know,

490
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 3: running around Paris. Oh my god, it was an absolute

491
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 3: It was such a dream that sometimes I can't really

492
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 3: believe that it all happened.

493
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I you know, that's when I met you.

494
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: And I think the thing is you're always one of

495
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,479
Speaker 1: the most fun people to ever be around. Your energy

496
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: is so contagious, and like even if a party sucks

497
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: or a dinner sucks, if Poppy comes, like it's like,

498
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: we know we're going to have fun, right, Like I

499
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: just know I'm going to be happy if I'm with you,

500
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: and we're going to have a great time, right.

501
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: And I think we have like a group of us, right,

502
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: Like we have a group of us.

503
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: It's like our safe people in our group that we

504
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: roll in and whatever. But at some point you go, okay,

505
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: so I'm doing this, I'm living the dream. I'm having

506
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: the best time. Probably sometimes a little too much fun.

507
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, a few terrible hangovers up in there.

508
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, just to.

509
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 1: Feel feel worth it, I'm going to say it was

510
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: worth it.

511
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 3: It was so other so it was worth it.

512
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: At some point you say, okay, I'm going to take

513
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: a go at acting right, yes, and then what.

514
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 3: Because And you know, my dad always laughed me when

515
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 3: he was like, oh my god. He's like, now that

516
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 3: you're in this world that you've taken so many years

517
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 3: to build yourself into and you're part of it now.

518
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 3: And at this point, I was sort of working with

519
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 3: a British fashion council and helping them discover and sort

520
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 3: of nurch a young talent. And I'm doing all of

521
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 3: this stuff and it's exactly where I want to be.

522
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 3: But I go, oh, you know what, it's not good enough.

523
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 3: I want to start right back at the beginning again

524
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 3: and do some thing where I'm totally out of my

525
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 3: comfort zone and put myself right back to the beginning.

526
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: And I want to be an actor. And my dad's like,

527
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 3: oh my god, why can't you just be happy with

528
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 3: what you're doing, And I'm like, no, it's not a one.

529
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 3: I've got to keep moving. I got to keep going.

530
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 3: So yeah, I suddenly turned around to my agents and

531
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 3: I said, I'm off to New York and I want

532
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 3: to go to a drama school out there, and I

533
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 3: want to, like because I've done a lot of acting

534
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 3: at school, and I was like, but this is what

535
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 3: I want to do, Like I'm not feeling like i've

536
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 3: really I didn't feel like I really belonged enough and

537
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: what I was doing, And so I went and I

538
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 3: started that whole new chapter of my.

539
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: Life because that's terrifying. Was that scary.

540
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 3: I was absolutely petrifying because in a way, in my mind,

541
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 3: I think what I thought, and this is and I

542
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,719
Speaker 3: don't think I've really said this before, but in my

543
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 3: mind I thought, well, acting a modeling must kind of

544
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 3: go hand in hand, and surely there's a way that

545
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: we can you know, this can work together. But in

546
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 3: all on it doesn't. And so when I started acting

547
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 3: and you know, trying to find an agent who would

548
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 3: represent me, and you know, I would start going to

549
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: sort of auditions or whatever. You know, no casting director

550
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 3: was interested in seeing me because in their minds they

551
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 3: were like.

552
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: Well, that's all and what she just.

553
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,959
Speaker 3: Wants to see if she can like try hard acting,

554
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,719
Speaker 3: Like no, we're not interested. So trying to get my

555
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 3: foot in the door. So the kind of modeling career

556
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 3: and my kind of career in fashion so to speak,

557
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 3: I thought would open doors, and it didn't. So I

558
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: had to train and I ended up which I wanted

559
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: to do anyway, which I was doing a lot of

560
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 3: on the side, but I got an amazing acting coach.

561
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 3: I went to a place in Lonocle Riverside Studios where

562
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 3: I did like a year of training and then I

563
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, these people really need these people to

564
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: take me seriously because is actually really what I want

565
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 3: to do. And again it was another couple of years

566
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: and a bit like the foot modeling, not that I

567
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 3: love the foot modeling my life, by the way, I'm

568
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 3: not hitting on that, but a few kind of foot

569
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 3: modeling jobs in the acting realm which I will never

570
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 3: see the light of day, but they probably will somehow,

571
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: and a few of those before stuff started to happen.

572
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 3: But I had to, you know, really juggle sort of

573
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 3: the like honing my craft, like learning to act all

574
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 3: that stuff with kind of still trying to make money

575
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 3: and stay in the fashion industry and do all that

576
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: stuff to do what I really wanted to do. And

577
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 3: I'm really glad that my sort of perseverance paid off.

578
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 3: But it was you know, it wasn't It wasn't plain sailing,

579
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 3: but obviously, but that also goes without saying like I

580
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: was obviously very aware. I obviously did have opportunities that

581
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: a lot of other actors wouldn't have had, but even

582
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: had a modeling agent in a backup job that could

583
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: get me through sure the process. Like I appreciate that

584
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 3: it is. It is not easy for anybody. But what

585
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: I was just trying to explain is that, you know,

586
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: you always think these two industries go hand in hand

587
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 3: in their people too. People.

588
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: I think people do think that. I think people do

589
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: think that because there is a lot of actor term model,

590
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: but listen, there's also actor term producer, producers actor like

591
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: there are larger sets. It's like stylists becoming designers or

592
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: makeup artists having you know, becoming entrepreneurs. And you know,

593
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: I think I think it is, but I also think

594
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: sometimes it makes it harder, you know, I think sometimes

595
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: don't make it harder.

596
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 3: And I think this kind of this sort of as

597
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 3: you said, like styler's turn designer like make is really

598
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 3: I mean this it's evolved so much. Again, Like you know, however,

599
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 3: many years ago, this was like twenty years ago, there

600
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 3: was so much of that. Everyone was very much stay

601
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: in your lane model and that's what you do like

602
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 3: now it's like model, influencer, DJ, cookbook, the wall, your ister, right,

603
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 3: you can like everyone can do everybody else's job they

604
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 3: want to do it. But like many years ago, it

605
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 3: wasn't really it was kind of like no, no, that's

606
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: what you do and you're going to stick to that.

607
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 3: But luckily the world has evolved and now everyone is

608
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 3: free and open to do whatever they want. And it's

609
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 3: kind of it's I'm not saying it's easier, but it's

610
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 3: definitely more kind of I don't know, more not acceptable.

611
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: What's the word.

612
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: It's no, it is. I think it's more.

613
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's more acceptable. I think

614
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: it's uh.

615
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 3: People are open to it. People are like, oh my gosh,

616
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 3: why can't that person be whatever they want to be?

617
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 3: Like change that, the change the lane. Everyone was like,

618
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 3: oh no, you stick to what you do and you

619
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: stick in the zone.

620
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: And I also want to point out too, because something

621
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: I really stand behind, because you know, a lot of

622
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: this whole trend in you know, nepotism, nep bo babies,

623
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: nepbo this, nepo that, And I want to point out

624
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: still the rejection in the grit that you did survive

625
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: and go through and deal with and take the emotional

626
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to say emotional beating on your

627
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: soul to.

628
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: You know, because I mean I did, we all did.

629
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: It's like, but I but I like to point that

630
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: out because I think I actually am a believer that yes,

631
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: it can be much easier because of people. You know, Yes,

632
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: but I also think it it very often works quite

633
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: the opposite that people don't want to give you the

634
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: chance because they're like it's too easy for them. So

635
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: you did go to acting school, you did go study.

636
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 1: You couldn't just walk in as this beautiful girl and

637
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: say hey I want to try this and hey look

638
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: at me, like I can do this. So what happens now?

639
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: Like what like what's next for pops? What's exciting you?

640
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: What is is what's feeding you right now? It's feeding

641
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: your soul right now.

642
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 3: So really at the moment that, I mean, I'm starting

643
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: a new film in a couple of weeks time, exciting.

644
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: Where's that shooting?

645
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 3: Well, actually in Belgium and Luxembourg, so and you're a

646
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 3: little independent film that I'm shooting over here in Europe,

647
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: so that would be great. I've never been to either

648
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 3: of those places, so and you know me, Bunny, the

649
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 3: fact that I can go and live somewhere else for

650
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 3: a couple of months is just exciting and discover new

651
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 3: cultures and new people. So that's super exciting. But the

652
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: main thing that I'm also sort of really focusing on

653
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: at the moment is mine and my sister's prosecco brand.

654
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 3: I'm a fan.

655
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm already a fan, Okay, so tell me about that

656
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: because I'm obsessed with that already.

657
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, we launched it during COVID, really an ideal

658
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 3: time to be launching a brand, but we it because

659
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: we had all the bottles in place and we'd already

660
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 3: been planning it for you know, years on end, so

661
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 3: we had to launch and we did, and it's going

662
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 3: wonderfully well. We have three different proseccos under the Della

663
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: Vite umbrella. It's vegan, it's sustainably created in a beautiful

664
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Speaker 3: vineyard in Venice actually, so it's called Fellow Bianny. That's

665
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Speaker 3: the name of the place, which is Tennically they see

666
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 3: it as prosecco region in Italy and it's for all

667
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: the best proseccos. The best proseccos in the world are

668
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Speaker 3: Italian of course, of course what they do that they

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Speaker 3: know their proseccos. And it was me and my sisters

670
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Speaker 3: and we decided to sort of start because whenever we

671
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 3: were kind of teenagers and in our twenties and whatever,

672
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 3: they always seemed to be like a bottle of prosecco

673
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 3: on the table, and we were always like, let's bring

674
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Speaker 3: our own prosecco to the world, but we'll go see

675
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 3: it in Italy because they know what they're doing.

676
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Speaker 1: And I still love that it's prosecco, like I love

677
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: that you're staying in that, you know, of.

678
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: Course, but we're also we were always, you know, we

679
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 3: always felt that we were sort of Italian in another life,

680
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 3: and a lot of us early trips would always be

681
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 3: in Italy, and we've always kind of celebrated the Italian

682
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 3: food and culture and their vibrancy and how sexy they are.

683
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 3: And so we were like, let's do our own prosecco.

684
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,479
Speaker 3: And it's honestly a dream come true. And I'm hoping

685
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Speaker 3: to kind of expand the business into maybe homework and

686
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Speaker 3: see what that takes us further on down the line.

687
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Speaker 3: So we'll see about that.

688
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: Where is it selling primarily Is it mostly in UK?

689
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: Is it in the US?

690
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 3: In the UK? And then in the US we're in Miami, New.

691
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 2: York and LA amazing, you guys. It is so good.

692
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: If you even if you don't like prosecco, you have

693
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: to try it. It is actually it's excellent. In fact, now

694
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: that I'm thinking of it, we have to have it.

695
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: I can send you events.

696
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 3: So there's a pale pink one the prosecco rose, and

697
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 3: it is so delicious. And what I love to do

698
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 3: is literally get a fish bowl, fill it with ice,

699
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 3: bottle of delavite or two, and that's lunch, okay, honestly,

700
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 3: and then you're good to go. Your day will fly

701
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 3: by and you'll literally be like falling around on the

702
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 3: ceiling by the end of it. But it's great.

703
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: You are my favorite person.

704
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: Well, and I send you bottles of it with fish

705
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 3: bowls with bags of ice.

706
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: And I have to have it at our events too.

707
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 2: I have to start making you.

708
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: I have to start screaming it at the top of

709
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: the canyons here, top of the mountains, not the canyons,

710
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: but the top you know.

711
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: What I mean.

712
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: On that note, in my bowl of proscco with Ice

713
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: in my double of PROSCCO with Ice. I love you

714
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: so much. I'm so excited for this chapter. I'm so

715
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: excited to watch you win continue to win, and you know,

716
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: I just love the shit out of you and I

717
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: just root for you always. And a fun fact that

718
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: I would like to share, given that you are convinced

719
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: you look like Pippy long Stalking as a kid, you

720
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: looked like Awkward as a child, there is one of

721
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: my favorite team members, absolutely beautiful, not She's been with me,

722
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: I think almost nine years and when she started and

723
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: I said, I was going out to meet you at

724
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: an event or something at dinner and she said to me,

725
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: you know Poppy Delavine. I said yes, and she said,

726
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: she's like, I want to look like her. I want

727
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: to be her. I think she's the coolest, happiest, She's

728
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: my person. And I want you to know this girl

729
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: is not someone who cares about celebrity. She's cool, she's beautiful,

730
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: she's fashionate, she's all the things and does she even

731
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: have Instagram? And you were like her person. So I

732
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: want you to know that I know that you have

733
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: the middle child. I'm the awkward, I'm the whatever and

734
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: whatever but like I just want to know, Oh person.

735
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 3: Long stockings together sounds like a plan to me.

736
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: You're also my person.

737
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: I love you, you are my person.

738
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 6: Rate thank you for you and you endlessly.

739
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: It's that time in the show and I answer to

740
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: a listener questions, So let's see what we have today.

741
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: Do you have any advice for a woman in her

742
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: early forties that wants to change careers. I feel like

743
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: I haven't followed my passion and need a change.

744
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I.

745
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: Hope that if you learn anything from climbing and heels

746
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: that it is never too late to pivot. It's never

747
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: too late to do what you love. It's never too

748
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: late to start a career. I have so many friends

749
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 1: that chose to be full time mom and their kids

750
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: are older now and they're bo and they want to

751
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: start a full on career at forty, at forty five,

752
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 1: at fifty. I don't think that it is ever too late.

753
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 1: My advice would be really think about what you love.

754
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: Really talk to people that you respect with business savvy

755
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: and experience, and make sure it's something that you know

756
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: fills a void, something that is scalable, something that can

757
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: be executed without taking every you know last cell in

758
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: your body to do and make sure it's something that

759
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: makes you truly happy, that you wake up excited every

760
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: day and motivated. That would be my greatest piece of advice,

761
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: because when you love what you do, it really doesn't

762
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 1: feel like work.

763
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: It does, it does, but it's different.

764
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: You love it and you're not mad that you're doing

765
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: it every day, and that is.

766
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: A huge gift. Okay, how do you manage phone time

767
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: with your tween? Oh?

768
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: My god, okay, oh, this is a constant you know,

769
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: my little one, thank god, does not have a phone yet.

770
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: My twelve year old, you know, there are times where

771
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: we don't have phone. You know, there's no phone in

772
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: the morning before school, there's no phone until you're done

773
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: with all your homework. It's a hard line, there is

774
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: no doubt. Because I care very deeply that my kids

775
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: have a big social life. I think it's so important

776
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: for them to constantly communicate with their friends, and for now,

777
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: I really love their friends. If that changes, obviously these

778
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: rules get tighter. But I think for Skuy, you know,

779
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 1: it's horrible, it's addictive, it's awful. But I will say

780
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: that we definitely pull the phone away and we say

781
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: there's no phone. Now, there's no phone at the table,

782
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: there's no phone at meal time, you know. But it's

783
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: horrible and it's a constant battle. And i'd be lying

784
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: to say I wasn't. But at the same time he's like, Mom,

785
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: you know, we're all on snap, we're all in a conversation,

786
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: we're in a group text, we're in we we're all

787
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: going to meet here, we're talking about this movie. And

788
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: you don't want to be the mom that's like, no,

789
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: you can't. So I think it's a very hard line.

790
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: But I think it's very important that there are very

791
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: clear to find no phone times, not at meals, not

792
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: at tables, not at meal time.

793
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: I think that's huge.

794
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: And not you know when you're going to sleep, because

795
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: it stimulates them right before bed. So I don't know,

796
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: it's just a constant And I will say that summer

797
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: camp is godsend because they can't have electronics and they're

798
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 1: in nature. So anytime you can pull your kids away

799
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: from electronics, it's just a dream. Because I constantly feel

800
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: like i'm tech police. I do, and that's just the truth.

801
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: I hope that's helpful. I'm being honest. Don't forget to

802
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: submit your questions for next week's episode.

803
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: All you have to do is.

804
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: Dm us your questions to at Climbing and Hills pod

805
00:41:50,880 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: on Instagram and I may just answer your question. A

806
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: huge thank you to the sweetest, most beautiful, best ever,

807
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: huge hearted Poppy DeLavigne for coming on the pod, and

808
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: thank you all for listening to Climbing in Heels. I'm

809
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: so excited for all that Poppy is about to do,

810
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: this next chapter, the next love for her, and you

811
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: know all that is to come for her and her

812
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 1: beautiful family. And you know, I really loved how candid

813
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: Poppy was. I really love keeping it very real on

814
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: Climbing and Heels. I love talking about the sort of

815
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: emotional effects of the different stages of our career journeys.

816
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: I also like to point out things that are assumed

817
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: about people that I don't think is necessarily always fair

818
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: to judge, especially people you don't know. And you know,

819
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: Poppy is clearly put in the work, and she's dealt

820
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: with a lot of rejection. She's you know, she's done

821
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: the grit and you know, and she's not afraid of

822
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: starf over and she's not afraid of adventure, and she's

823
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: not afraid to close her eyes and jump and really

824
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: just start over again. And I think that takes a lot,

825
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: because that's not something I love to do.

826
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 2: I really don't. I like to go forward.

827
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: Going back to me is always more challenging, but as always,

828
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: don't forget to write a review. Wherever you get your podcasts,

829
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: I love reading them. And while you're at it, follow

830
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: me on at Rachel Zo and at Climbing Inhales pod

831
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: on Instagram for more updates and upcoming guests, episodes and

832
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: all things Cure Tour and I will see you next

833
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Speaker 1: week month