1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Be sure to check us out live every weekday from 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: four to seven pm Pacific seven to ten pm Eastern 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio dot Com, or stream 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: us every day on the iHeartRadio by searching FSR. 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple. 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 3: Speaking of things, You're never gonna miss Rob. You're never 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 3: gonna miss tonight's game. I'll tell you that because it 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 3: features the best quarterback in football. We're not talking about 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 3: Patrick Olamaro, Marjet We're not talking about those guys. We 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 3: don't care about Mike's return on Sunday night because the 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: Marquee matchup is tonight. That's because, according to Pro Football Focus, 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 3: through the first three weeks of the NFL season, the 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: top rated passer none other than Sam Frickin' Darnold. He 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: has a PFF grade of ninety one point four as 17 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: a passer. Overall grade in PFF is a ninety one 18 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: point nine that is also tops in their scoring system. 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: In fact, only one other quarterback is even in the nineties. 20 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 3: That's so much he's killing the game and last, but 21 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: not least, if you don't like PFF. If you're looking 22 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: at the adjusted EPA, which is the trendy stat that 23 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 3: all the nerds like to talk about. You know who's 24 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: leading the NFL in that one, Sam freaking Donald with 25 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 3: a ninety nine overall. Long story short, the best quarterback 26 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: in football according to all the nerds, Sam Donald's. 27 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 4: Can I say a bad word on the radio or not? 28 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: Just get yeah you ready? You know me? Or I'll 29 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 4: just bleeping for you let me look at you and 30 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 4: then you say I bleep ghos. 31 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 5: When it comes to the PFF, I'm gonna fupff. How's 32 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 5: that okay? Because I'm not buying into it. And this 33 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 5: is what happens when the nerds get to control these 34 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 5: websites and all these things would overanalyzed stuff. They're gonna 35 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 5: sit here and try to convince you what you're watching 36 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 5: Kelvin is not correct and that Sam Donald is the 37 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 5: best quarterback in the NFL. Are you PFF you kidding me? 38 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 5: I'm just serious. Like, if I had to put my 39 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 5: finger on it, I'd have to wash it because it stinks. 40 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 5: If I went to the bank, it would be like 41 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 5: getting three dollar bills when I've changed twenty Like, none 42 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 5: of this makes any sense. 43 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson is off to the. 44 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 5: Greatest start in three game for a quarterback and he's 45 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 5: not even in the top ten. They have to they 46 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 5: have to try to convince you that they're smarter than you. 47 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 4: What you're watching on TV. You don't know what you're watching. 48 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,839 Speaker 5: They're not watching the guy who has the best quarterback 49 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 5: rating in the history of the National freaking Football League. 50 00:02:54,600 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 5: They're gonna tell me that Sam Donald and Marcus Mariota 51 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 5: are the two best quarterbacks in the National Football League. 52 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 4: F upff. I'm just giving you a letters. 53 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 5: I know. 54 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. Franklin University, exactly, Yeah, Fairleigh Dickinson University. They went 55 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 4: there to. 56 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 5: Exactly, come on, man, be better than this. This is 57 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 5: for them to be able to hold on their jobs 58 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 5: and prove that you don't know what you're watching? 59 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? 60 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 5: Sam Donald, who won fourteen games and couldn't get a 61 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 5: contract with the team he played for because you know, 62 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 5: they don't know what they're watching. 63 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 4: He's obviously the best quarterback in the league. He shot it. 64 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 4: He should have got a ten year, three hundred million 65 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 4: dollar contract. 66 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 5: According to pfff U or whatever it is. 67 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 4: I don't even know what it is. Don't go to 68 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 4: that website. 69 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 5: If they honestly believe that Sam Ronald McDonald is the 70 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 5: best quarterback in the National Football League, can we stop 71 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 5: the idea that Sam Donald Marcus Mariota are the two 72 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 5: best quarterbacks and according to their standards. 73 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 4: Calvin, please, I'm done. 74 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: Well, listen, what you just talked about, Rob is another 75 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: test that they forgot, and that is the eyeball test. 76 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes you can overtest me, you can put the sat 77 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: ACTPC tpff T. The fact of the matter is sometimes 78 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: the eyeball test is simply just sitting right in your face. 79 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 4: People. Now, let me break down a couple of things 80 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 4: for you. 81 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: Number One, I'm convinced this was mister and missus mc 82 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: donald's test. I'm convinced it was his mom and dad 83 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: who did this test, so they can put their son 84 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: first or something. Now, Sam Donald has played well last year, 85 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: earned himself some money, and is doing perfectly fine this year. 86 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: But I bring out some things. Sam Donald is not 87 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: in the following. He's not in the top ten of QBR, 88 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: he's not in the top ten of rating, he's not 89 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: in the top ten of yards. He's not in the 90 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: top ten of touchdowns. In fact, he's only seventh in completion percentage. 91 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: And guess what he is at attempts twenty eighth twenty 92 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: You know what, I would be pretty good at doing 93 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: something I ain't got to do a lot of. If 94 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna pass the ball a lot, well, Naga, 95 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: I might end up being all right on your test. 96 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: Twenty eighth in attempts for a starter is crazy. So 97 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm confused. We've got too many numbers. We got this test, 98 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: this stat gone too far. He's because what you do 99 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: when you do this. Now I have to knock Sam Donald, 100 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: who was perfectly fine. He's off to two and one. 101 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: His team is happy. They're like what they're doing, They're 102 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: like their chances tonight. Great for Sam Darnal. I was saying, 103 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: keep them in Minnesota. 104 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. You and I debated that. 105 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: But when you put out things like this, you make 106 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: me now have to sound like I'm knocking him down 107 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: because of the acertainty of the statement and then where 108 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: they place him. 109 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 5: But this is where these guys, I'm dead serious. They're 110 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 5: trying to show how much smarter they are what you're watching. 111 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 5: You don't know what you're watching seeing. 112 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: The corner blitz of the left side on a Tuesday 113 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: angle of the fifth of the release of the one 114 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: point seven second Listen, he's not and and just from 115 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: simply watching football, as we've now done for three weeks. 116 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 4: He is not playing better than Justin Herbert. He's not 117 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 4: playing and now I'm not even gonna mention Lamar. He's 118 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 4: not the greatest start of a three game that start 119 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 4: of an NFL quarterbacks not playing better than josh Adam Lamar. 120 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: He's not playing better than Matthew Stafford. He's not playing 121 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: better than Jared Goff. He's not playing in a handful 122 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: of guys. And that's perfectly fine for him. His team 123 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: is happy, he's happy, they're winning great. But the idea, 124 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: you can't sell me this, Come on, this is a woof, 125 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: This is a wolf taking iron buying it and and 126 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: it's and they've gone too far with trying to outscience 127 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: us and out and out specify us and make sure 128 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: you don't understand what you're see when you're seeing it's 129 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: like Moneyball already brought in the guy Jonah Hill, and 130 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: he was breaking down all the numbers and the number 131 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: the numbers, like, all right, easy, because I'm watching for this, 132 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. 133 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 5: This is the way to make it for them. This 134 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 5: is the way to make a job for them. I'm 135 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 5: telling you, like, they have to give you some So. 136 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 4: You say, Revenge of the Nerds, like the movie. Ass 137 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 4: that's what it is. 138 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: What it they are right now, Rogerie, Revenge of the 139 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: Nerds twenty two, That's what this is. 140 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 4: Revenge of the Nerds twenty two. 141 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 5: They're trying to convince you that you don't know what 142 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 5: you're watching, and they know more than you know. 143 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 4: And you had the eye test. Doesn't matter. We don't care. 144 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: We don't care. 145 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 5: If Lamar as nine touchdowns and no pick, we don't care. 146 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 5: He's not the best quarterback. Oh okay, really And that's 147 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 5: not the numbers. I'm just doing, right, That's that's. 148 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: All's nobody who's watching right now and is not seeing 149 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: what Lamar, Josh Allen, Matthew Stafford, Justin Herbert, Jared Goff, 150 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: these guys are doing. 151 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 4: They're put there having really really good seasons thus far. 152 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield as well, Sorry, Rogie Baker Mayfield, My bad. 153 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 154 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: the nation. 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They look like one of the best teams 187 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: in football for about three and a half quarters and 188 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 3: they blew it there in Philadelphia. 189 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, bad loss, bad. 190 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: This game is very big long term for the NFL season. 191 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: And you mentioned that Shane Sneiken met with the media 192 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 3: earlier today. He was asked about Matthew Stafford and how 193 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: is it he's able to play at such a high 194 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: level at the ripe age of thirty seven. Take a 195 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 3: listen to this doozy. 196 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 7: I think he's one of the best probably to ever 197 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 7: do it. And I think he has a physicality about him, 198 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 7: like he's tough as it gets. I mean, you see 199 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 7: him taking shots and he gets up and he ain't 200 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 7: coming out of the game. And that's respect there, you 201 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 7: know right away, just seeing that. But I think he 202 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 7: can make all the throws, you know, I think he 203 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 7: does a great job at seeing it. I mean, like 204 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 7: I said, he makes a big plays. 205 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: With his arm. 206 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 7: And when you got a guy that's done it at a 207 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 7: high level for a long time, He's seen a lot 208 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 7: of different looks and so getting them out of the plays. 209 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 7: He's been doing that for a long time. But I mean, 210 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 7: just the most respect for him. 211 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 5: Just once again, a total like what are these guys smoking? 212 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 5: These coaches and whatnot. I know, you want to give 213 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 5: the other guy some kind words or whatever. Stafford has 214 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 5: played a long time. I watched his very first game 215 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 5: in Detroit. I covered most of his career. Okay, so 216 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 5: I've watched him play. But to consider him as one 217 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 5: of the greatest who has ever done it, this reminds 218 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 5: me of these young kids who think Paul George is 219 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 5: their goat. Matthew Stafford is Paul George with a lucky 220 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 5: championship that he was able to get, you know, late 221 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 5: in his career. None of the numbers or anything you 222 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 5: talk about with Matthew Stafford add up. 223 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 4: None of it. 224 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 5: There's a reason he was called stat Padford in Detroit. 225 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 5: It were down twenty one to nothing, prevent defense. They 226 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 5: let you throw in front of him. You notice you 227 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 5: watched it, and he piled up numbers and what not, 228 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 5: and they lost and they will lose all the time. 229 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 5: And I'm just saying, those are the numbers that Stafford has. 230 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 4: They weren't any. 231 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 5: I don't know if Stafford played for real. I'm not 232 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 5: sure he played ten games that mattered in his entire 233 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 5: career in Detroit. And I'm talking about the three playoff 234 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 5: games and maybe a couple of seasons the first game 235 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 5: of the year, you know what I mean, where something 236 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 5: was on the line. I'm dead serious, Like, I'm not 237 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 5: so sure he played ten games in his career that 238 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 5: mattered before he came to Los Angeles. 239 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 4: Here's the issue I have in this long career. 240 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 5: Always a Tier two quarterback, right only I think one 241 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 5: time was he ever even considered a Tier one quarterback. 242 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 5: And I can't dispute that two time Pro Bowler one time, 243 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 5: I know he was an alternate on the Pro Bowl. 244 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 5: Has a losing record as a starter ten one, fourteen 245 00:11:55,640 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 5: and one in the playoffs, five and five and one 246 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 5: in five outside of that Super Bowl run, you know 247 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 5: what I mean. And let's not forget the Rams went 248 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 5: to the Super Bowl with Jared Goff before he got there. 249 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 5: They weren't like an also ran or downtry out an 250 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 5: organization and the Messiah showed up and got him there. 251 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 4: So none of this stuff makes any sense to me. 252 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 4: I get it. 253 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 5: You fall in love with the arm and some of 254 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 5: the other attributes, which is fine to say that he 255 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 5: can sling the football and he does a lot of 256 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 5: things well or whatever, but one of the greatest, one 257 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 5: of the best, who ever did it. I just think 258 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 5: it's overblown and people just toss around the idea of 259 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 5: who's great. How could you even consider him one of 260 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 5: the greatest whoever done it? He has a losing record 261 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 5: two Pro Bowls. I don't know. I'll ask you, Rob G. 262 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 5: Can you look this up? Has he ever gotten one 263 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 5: vote for MVP? I'm serious, In all these years he 264 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 5: played in the National Football I don't think he's gotten 265 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 5: actually one vote. 266 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 4: Be surprised he got maybe one one of those years 267 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 4: where he put up forty five hundred cars. 268 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 5: But I'm I'm if I was a betting man right now, 269 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 5: I say he's never gotten. 270 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 4: Even one m that's possible. So here. 271 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: So Matthew Stafford is one of those guys that, again 272 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: we've talked about in other sports, Kyrie Irving. You mentioned 273 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: Paul George, but I'll go Kyrie Irving one time champ. 274 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: But because of circumstances, it's gonna be hard to explain 275 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: his full story. 276 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 4: I'll give you another guy. 277 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 5: But at least Kyrie had like a big shot in 278 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 5: a big moment, you know what I mean. 279 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: And we know Kyrie is Kyrie, but it's gonna be 280 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: hard because you'll name so many other guys you'll put 281 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: above him that if you didn't really see it, you'll 282 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: be hard to explain. Now, Matthew Stafford, I think why 283 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: people love him, Why he's your favorite quarterback's favorite quarterback 284 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: or quarterbacks of the past. 285 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 4: They drew all over him. Offensive coordinator Sean McVay. 286 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: While he was like, we're not gonna ride with Jared 287 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: Goff's young guy, he believes, like get out of here, 288 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: we can get Matthew Stafford. The reason does a couple 289 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: of reasons why, And sometimes I think in any thing 290 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: you want to go where it could be music he 291 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: could be movies. There's an adoration that people have for somebody. 292 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: Part of it is their circumstances. And I think there's 293 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: a lot of people who look at Matthew Stafford, you know, 294 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: the people who study the game and know the game, 295 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: they say, man, if that guy was in place X 296 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: or had the same opportunities as Joe blow Man, what 297 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: would he do? He makes every throw and you know this, 298 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: he his arm angles and throws was ridiculous. 299 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 4: He can throw a. 300 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: Ball up under, over, sideways, switch hand, left hand, no looks. 301 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 4: And he's big. He's strong, I mean, he's his big arm. 302 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 4: He's tough, he stays in games. 303 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: And I think there's a part of guys who watch 304 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: him and say, man, if he was only in a 305 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan system for a decade, if he was only. 306 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 4: With Andy Reid. 307 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: Andy Reid got Kevin Cobb, make Kevin Cobb look like 308 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: a thing. He brought Michael Vick from prison to the 309 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: comeback Player of the Year down. Then mcnav stayed in 310 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship Super Bowl. 311 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 5: Who go to bad situations? Okay, Michael Jordan went to 312 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 5: the Chicago Bulls, terrible organization. Go look it up before 313 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 5: he showed up. Okay, really bad. They hadn't won anything. Yeah, 314 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 5: and Reggie Theas and all those guys. That's all I'm saying. 315 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 5: There are plenty of guys. Peyton Manning went to Indianapolis. 316 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 5: I could go on and on and on. Not the 317 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 5: best situation, not the best circumstance. You can't always use 318 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 5: that for everybody. There are people who changed the organization. 319 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 5: Joe Burrow. They could not win a playoff game in Cincinnati, right, 320 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 5: people were saying, don't go to Cincinnati, Joe Burrow, you 321 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 5: don't deserve that. You deserve better. And what did he 322 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 5: do with second year? He took them to the super Bowl. 323 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 5: That's what I'm trying to say, is that then that's why. 324 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 5: And Calvin Johnson and Domakan sue Nick fairly like, they 325 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 5: had some players that are top five defense. To let 326 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 5: the year they lost to Dallas in the playoffs, go 327 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 5: look it up. 328 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 4: You remember that. 329 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: Year was throwing humans around. I'm saying you remember that 330 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: that but that year they had a really good defense. 331 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: So no, so the guys you name, I'm glad you 332 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: named them because Michael Jordan was just scoring a bunch 333 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: of pointless points until he got Phil Jackson. Peyton Manning 334 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: was just throwing a bunch of touchdowns till he got 335 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: Tony Dungee and they created a team. And that's the point. 336 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: People who watch Matthew Stafford say, man, if only he 337 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: had a situation that And I'm just telling you why 338 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: people put him say that he had no control of anything. 339 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 4: But this is where I'm gonna push back. 340 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 5: It ain't the minute he got the team, because they 341 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 5: had already had successful this wet they had already gone 342 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 5: to the super Bowl. And I'm gonna tell you this, 343 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 5: and I want you to go look it up. If 344 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 5: what's that kid's name, se Qusskey Tart or whatever his 345 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 5: name is, to Cosskey Tart, if he catches that interception 346 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 5: and the and the Rams lose that game, Matthew like 347 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 5: his narrative about Matthew Stafford is night and day, cause 348 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 5: it was right on Q. Matthew Stafford through a game 349 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 5: winning touchdown in the Super Bowl and didn't get the 350 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 5: Super Bowl MVP. You know why because he had two 351 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 5: interceptions in that game as well. 352 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 4: And that's all I'm trying to tell you. Listen, so 353 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 4: said he's. 354 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 5: One play away one play from being garbage. 355 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 4: One play. We know we can one play it for 356 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 4: to death. We know that. 357 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm telling you going back to making the change. This 358 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: is why I disagree with you on this one. Matthew 359 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: Stafford came into an OH TO sixteen team and he 360 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: didn't eli manning it. He didn't should do her. Maybe 361 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: I won't go play there. He didn't do any of that. 362 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford embrace and I remember, obviously I'm watching his 363 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: fan I'm like, who are we gonna drive? And they 364 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: kept saying this kid out of Georgia, kid out of Georgia, 365 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: Matthew Staffords a guy, kid out of Georgia. 366 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 4: Matthew Staff's a guy. I'm like, all right. And anytime 367 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 4: they would ask him, the Lions have been futrid, The 368 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 4: Lions suck, the Lions aren't good. 369 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: It's been a bad organization. Why would you want to 370 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: go there? Why would you want to go there? He said, 371 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: I want to be a part of the change. And 372 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: for the most part they were a team you had 373 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: to beat with him. They made the postseason a few 374 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: times with him. They wasn't doing that before him. And 375 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: you know that you were there, What do you mean 376 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: they weren't doing that. If there was a long period 377 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: where the Lions sucked and didn't even make the postseason 378 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: for a long time before Matthew Stafford got there. 379 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 4: But this is so what I'm saying all the play. 380 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 4: But they were bad and they got a lot of 381 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 4: great players. 382 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 5: Calvin Johnson, they had a first top pick for year 383 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 5: after year after year. 384 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,479 Speaker 1: One of them is no longer winning, Charles Rogers. They 385 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: were just picking people receiver at the receivt Roy Williams. They 386 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: were picking receiver. 387 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 5: Here's the other thing that doesn't bode well. Look at 388 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 5: the other guys, Matthew Stafford with the two Pro Bowls, 389 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 5: Derek Carr four, Andy Dalton three, Kirk Cousins four. 390 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 4: And every person. 391 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: You tell me if I'm wrong, you would take Matthew 392 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: Stafford out of everybody you just. 393 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 4: Named, No on that list would you take over? 394 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 5: And not at the time when they played, because there 395 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 5: were there's a lot of had Matthew Stafford that I 396 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 5: was there every Sunday. I was there every Sunday. No, No, 397 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 5: you're doing it after the feed. No, in real time. No, 398 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 5: it doesn't matter like Stafford. You're looking at Matthew Stafford 399 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 5: after no, yes, you are, dude. 400 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford has been he has been your favorite and 401 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: now analyst and and Nalys says breakdown quarterback of the quarterbacks. 402 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 4: The people love matter. He threw a. 403 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 5: Ton of big interceptions again for with the Lions, Are 404 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 5: you kidding? 405 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 4: I was watching in one season ever because his teams 406 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 4: were down because they weren't great, and he found a 407 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 4: way to get them back eight comebacks and wins. Players 408 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 4: don't have that in their tire fifteen. 409 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 5: The problem is there were situations where they could have 410 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 5: beat Green Bay. The last game of the season at home, 411 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 5: he has a terrible game. I could go and document 412 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 5: all these games. There's a reason that people went along 413 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 5: with that nickname staff Padford because most of his stats 414 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 5: came late. 415 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: They didn't come when the game was in fluxd. I 416 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: saw too many come back I watched all these games. 417 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: He won games they shouldn't have won. That's why, like 418 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: when they called him the cardiac Cats, because they knew 419 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: how to come back. 420 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 4: Look Matthew Stafford again. 421 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: I think the benefit he has is people say, if 422 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: you put him in a winning situation, what happened? He 423 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: got to one and he won that situation in the postseason. 424 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: In the postseason with Sean McVay, I know he is 425 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: what he is and run and people saw him right. 426 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: He made a horrible Futriot franchise solid, they weren't great. 427 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: He made them solid and competitive for so long and 428 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: then he goes to it they weren't. 429 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 5: Competitive to me, I were They lost twenty three twenty 430 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 5: three straight road games when. 431 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: The same Matthew Stafford that had them in the postseason 432 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: handful of times, but I. 433 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 4: Know times years, three times. Matthew Stafford to go to 434 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 4: the playoffs all the time, Garry Sanders, Wayne Fons, they 435 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 4: went every other year to. 436 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: The postseason, and they stopped at about ninety ninety eight. 437 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: And we ain't go back to about what twenty eleven. 438 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 4: Literally, I think that's what it was. 439 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 440 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 441 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 442 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: listen live. 443 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 3: Speaking of hits, ROGI, speaking of hits, the Big Dumpy 444 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 3: did it again? Rob Park, I know you don't want 445 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 3: to hear it. God, my man, his single. 446 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 4: Handedly linked against bankrupting Mlbbro dot com. 447 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 3: All right, cal Rally hit his sixtieth homer of the 448 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 3: season last night for the marriag They play Agains tonight 449 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 3: in about forty minutes. 450 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 4: Oh god, it was so good. We did it, Oh Gode. 451 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 3: They clinched the Al West crown in the process. And now, 452 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 3: according to Lamar Mitchell, friend of the show, bet MGM, 453 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 3: cal Rally has officially surpassed Aaron Judge as the betting favorite. 454 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 4: Who was that am in the other l MVP Award? 455 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 4: Was that me? All rise for the big dumper. He's 456 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 4: gonna win it. He is gonna win it. 457 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: A few reasons why, Rob, I know MLB bro ain't 458 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 1: trying to hear it because you need to know. 459 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 4: But dang it, this is why he's gonna win. 460 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: Number one, we know baseball is big on numbers, where 461 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: baseball is big on history, and he keeps doing too 462 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: many things. Number one, you start to look at these numbers. 463 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: So he sets the most home runs for a primary 464 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: catcher with forty eight. 465 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 4: He said. 466 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 5: You see he used the word primary because he doesn't 467 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 5: always catch primary. 468 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 4: Okay, go ahead, No what for him, it's for everybody else? No, 469 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 4: I'm just good the primary he did that back in August. 470 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: Then he went ahead and did the most home runs 471 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: by switch hitter, fifty five of them. 472 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 4: And then you over all, right, claud that's good enough. No, 473 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go ahead and knock out the franchise record, 474 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 4: and fifty six he did that. And you know what 475 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 4: was funny. 476 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: Yesterday, right as you and I were getting off the air, 477 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: he hits one. Somebody screams in the building, Hey, hit one, 478 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: And what do you say? Do you remember what you 479 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: said yesterday? He said he's got to hit two to 480 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: catch up with Hey, that's why you're laughing. You say 481 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: you got to hit two to catch up with Judge, 482 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: and you walked out the door feeling good about yourself. Well, 483 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: he hit another one and said what Aaron D can do? 484 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: I can do better? And hit another one, and so listen, 485 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,239 Speaker 1: he's got more home runs. He's doing something that you 486 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: know how difficult it is to play catcher. You know 487 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: how difficult it is to play that position. The abuse 488 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: you take, the battle. He might need a few of leaves. 489 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: Its bad on your knees, is bad on your joints. 490 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: Got a stiff back. And again he's also doing stuff 491 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: you don't get metrics for it. They don't give awards 492 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: and stats for where you're talking about the way he's 493 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: framing for his pitcher. All of a sudden that theff 494 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: let me get my PFF on that. 495 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 5: Now he's framing. Okay, okay, he's a top number one 496 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 5: one is a let me frame my point of view. 497 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: So no, I think hes because what he's doing for 498 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: that team, by the way, clinching their division as well. 499 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: On the night you hit two home runs, I think 500 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: that kind of sealed the deal for him. It's gonna 501 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: be very close. You know, if it was boxing, it 502 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: gonna be a ten to nine. But I think he's 503 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: gonna add him out again because what he's doing for 504 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: that position, the number in what he's doing, he might 505 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: end the season win sixty. 506 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 4: All you have is qualifiers for that position. It should 507 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 4: just be that. 508 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,479 Speaker 1: It's spectactical sixty one period, but the period next two 509 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: should be just put period period period is miss Mary 510 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: Mack was here period. 511 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 4: He's bugging sixty home runs, probably gonna end up with 512 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 4: sixty two. 513 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 5: No, No, he has sixty. Do not give him any 514 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 5: ex He still got three. Is gonna hit nine in 515 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 5: the next three year? 516 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,959 Speaker 1: Is that cool, he settled down. Now you even get 517 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: taken care of. But he's gonna win this thing. That 518 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: sealed it to me when Aaron Judges had a great game. 519 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: We're sitting right here celebrating he got two and then 520 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: he said hold on, brouh, hold my beer and hit 521 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: two more. We're talking about what he's doing defensively as well, 522 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: and again historically great, doing something we haven't seen from 523 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: that position ever. Uh, And I just think those things 524 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: are gonna go in his favorite it's gonna be very close. 525 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: Aaron Judges absolutely deserves of it. And that's what's happened 526 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: over the last handful of years. You get guys where 527 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: Aaron Judge shoe hail Tani deserved it, but Aaron Judge 528 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: hit to sixty one and so Aaron Judge deserved it. 529 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: So they're doing things at historic rates and both of 530 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: them have been great. But I just think the big Dumper, 531 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: which is out of the blue, off of sudden his nickname, 532 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: is huge, and I think he's done enough to secure 533 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: it again when you look at what the amount of 534 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: home runs the position he plays, setting franchise records and 535 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: doing it all at the sake of actually winning too. 536 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: That's the key part as well. I think he just 537 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: locked it up yesterday. Totally disagree. 538 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 5: If you look at Aaron Judge, war ops, what is 539 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 5: it good for batting average? He's going to be He's 540 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 5: gonna win a batting title where guys the big dumpers 541 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 5: at batting average is like two point fifty. Aaron Judges three. 542 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 5: In a league where two forty two is the average 543 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 5: batting average. Aaron Judge has a three twenty two batting average. 544 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 5: He's gonna win a batting title, which you don't see 545 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 5: the power. 546 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 4: And to be able to hit for a average, which 547 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 4: is special. He had over fifty home runs. 548 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 5: Only the fourth player in baseball history to hit fifty 549 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 5: or more in four different seasons. Okay, only three other 550 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 5: guys have done it, and they're all very special, all 551 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 5: great Hall of Fame players as Aaron Judge. And on 552 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 5: the podcast Inside the Parker which dropped earlier today, we 553 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 5: had Chris Young, the former outfielder for the Arizona Diamondbacks, 554 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 5: who made a great point and he said, if you 555 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 5: look at Cal's numbers and you applied those to Aaron Judge, 556 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 5: it would be an off year. You would actually look 557 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 5: at those and say Aaron Judge had an off year 558 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 5: and people are just trying to bake in. If he 559 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 5: wasn't a catcher and he was an outfielder like Aaron Judge, 560 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 5: would would be this conversation. I'm asking you if he 561 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 5: was not a catcher most probably not, No, it would not. 562 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 5: It's not probably listens and home runs in RBI, Okay, 563 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 5: but there are other stats other than those two, and 564 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 5: Aaron Judge has all of them. 565 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 4: It's not even all off. He's first and all of them. 566 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 5: And Aaron Judge also missed nine or ten games with injury. 567 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 5: I'm not making an excuse. He has more home runs. 568 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 5: He has now. If he gets sixty three home runs 569 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 5: and breaks the record, right then we have a conversation. 570 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 5: Then then you could say he just set a reker 571 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 5: all time record most home runs in the American League. 572 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 5: I can see people voting for him without the record. 573 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 5: I don't think it's closed all right. Now, here's my pushback. 574 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 5: Don't he already has the record. He has the record 575 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 5: for the most from a catcher, he has the record 576 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 5: for the most from the period. He's already knocking down records. 577 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 5: Aaron Jones didn't have the record for the most for 578 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 5: him outfielder. He had the record for the most if 579 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 5: if Cal has the most. 580 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: But he doesn't have to do that when the season 581 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: because about Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Judge isn't doing It's not 582 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: like Aaron Judge has it where right now and he's like, 583 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: I gotta go catch him. 584 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 5: But why does he always have to be about just 585 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 5: a catcher. I know, I get that, and I hear 586 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 5: you that's what it shouldint. But shouldn't just be that 587 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 5: because I'm telling you, if he was the third basement 588 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 5: or any other position, he wouldn't even be in the 589 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 5: running for MVP. 590 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 4: That's the point you have to contest. Look at his framing. 591 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 5: Nobody recognized his framing last year, but now because he 592 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 5: has sixty bombs, look at his framing. 593 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 4: Can you imagine? Can you magine squatting for nine inn Yesterday? 594 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 1: I had to talk to you about some smuckers and 595 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: some Jiffy cad to a peanut butter and jelly on 596 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: you to make you understand that shoe hey o Tanny 597 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: was the best player in baseball because they get these 598 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: two things go together. Grew one of the top two 599 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: three hitters in baseball, one of the better pitchers in baseball. 600 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: You put him together, he's the best player. My point 601 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: is it's contextualizing. It's because of what Shohy does all 602 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: around and pitching and hitting, and he can steal bases 603 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: and all of that, so it's the same thing. It's 604 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: the fact that he is a catcher, because catchers don't 605 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: do this normally, so contextualizing. So you can't say, what 606 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: if he was a third well we see with third 607 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: basement I would outfitters. 608 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 4: But and he again, you can't leave. You can't be doing. 609 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: This from a position that domesn't normally do it and 610 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: then also be doing it leading the ALE, and RBIs 611 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: leading the AL and home runs and on a night 612 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: where you need to run fifty? Is that MVP can 613 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: name me an MVP will hit two fifty. Fifty is 614 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: not great, there's no note great. Give me an MVP. 615 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: The fact that he's above average is crazy. 616 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 5: But my idea is that you would be hard pressed 617 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 5: to find an MVP in any league that batted two fifty. 618 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: But do you see them mvns that man is playing catcher. 619 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: You know how hard it is to play that position. 620 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: You notice you've been covering the league since nineteen eighty six. 621 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: There you go, Yeah, I sit next year one year 622 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: before I know Unfortunately, I know this. I hear you 623 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: say it every day. You've been covered as nineteen eighty six. 624 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: You know catchers how grueling it is on them. And 625 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: so for him to explode with these numbers, explode with 626 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: this team's success Clinton Division the first time since two 627 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: thousand and one, on a night that they do it. 628 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 4: He hits two home runs. 629 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: To me, that was and we also talk about this 630 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: all the time in MVPs in any sports, having those 631 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: monumental moments, that's a huge thing to Clint the division. 632 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: To night you hit two home runs when your foe 633 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: in this case, the guy also trying to do it, 634 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: hit two home runs. 635 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 4: And you do that. 636 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: Mind you, by the way, you mentioned the sixty three 637 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: home runs. That ain't crazy. Just hit two last night. 638 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: It's got a few games lest before the end of 639 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: the season. He might mess around and do that the 640 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: paces he's on. So I just think again, when you're 641 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: looking at somebody in a position that's been around for 642 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty years and now you do something 643 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: better than anyone else in the one hundred and fifty years. 644 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: That is a nod to you and in great consideration 645 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: that you win. In last point for me, sometimes in 646 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: life you're a victim of your own success, and that 647 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: might be Aaron Judge. Where Aaron Judge, that's not fair. 648 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: Let's just agree. 649 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 5: Look at his numbers accoudible, like he's not just a 650 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 5: power hitter batting. 651 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 4: That's why agree. 652 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 5: That's why Kyle Schwarber won't win the MVP because because 653 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 5: he hits two forty, he has fifty four bombs for 654 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 5: Facilly's gonna run away with it, right, and nobody's going 655 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 5: well Kyle Schwarber, look at his fifty four home runs. No, 656 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 5: because he does the batting average and the other stuff. 657 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 5: This is just strictly because everybody wants to give wants 658 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 5: to give the catcher some extra love, like they deserve 659 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 5: extra ketchup on the front fries. 660 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I like a little honey mustard barbecue mixer 661 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: French fries. Boom boom, boom boom. 662 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 4: Nothing but salt on hot fries. Not even ketchup. No ketchup. 663 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 4: That's one thing you and my wife have in common. 664 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 4: No ketchup. I don't ketchup. On fries, honey muster and barbecue. 665 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 5: So you just like to eat the honey, mustard and barbecue, 666 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 5: and you're just using it. My buddy Gary in college, 667 00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 5: that's what he used to do. 668 00:31:59,560 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 4: Gary. 669 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 5: All he did was he would get ten packs of ketchup, 670 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 5: pour him onto up onto his plate, and use the 671 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 5: French fries to be able to eat the ketchup. I said, like, 672 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 5: like I was just saying, he goes, I'm not a 673 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 5: big in. 674 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 4: The French fries. I just like that. 675 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 5: I love some fries, but it doesn't make sense to 676 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 5: try to spoon ketch up and just eat it. 677 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 4: He couldn't do that. He couldn't do it.