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Please welcome to money Making Conversation 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:37.840 for the very first time, Dion Taylor Man, thank you 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:42.840 so much for me. Thank you, Hey, Dion, there was 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:44.600 a lot of titles I throughout that Now, So which 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:49.000 one do you own up to? Writer, filmmaker, director, idea generator? 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:55.440 Which one of those titles you claiming today? Real person? Awesome, awesome, 0:01:56.240 --> 0:02:01.360 real person? What is real person? Come from? Where you're 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:05.080 based from? Uh? These ideas that you started generating? Where 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:09.280 were you boring it'? I'm I'm I'm born in Chicago, Illinois. 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.840 I'm raised in Gary, Indiana. UM spent a lot of 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:17.560 time now in in northern California, ended up um moving 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:21.080 there and living there for for a while now, but 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:24.240 still all my families in the Midwest. Um, so I'm 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.200 kind of like a I have a cluster of different 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:30.520 energies around me. Man. You know, the Midwest is born 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:32.160 and bred and me. But then at the same time, 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:35.200 I have to got the energy in the in the 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.040 in the in the passion from the from the northern 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:43.440 California world as well. It's interesting, you know, writer, producer 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:47.040 that sitcoms and produce movies, and people always ask me. 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:49.840 I tried to. I can't really give them a journey 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:51.560 on how they could be successful because I was a 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:54.639 former stand up comic, my degree in mathematics and uh 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.880 managed Steve Harvey. So what what was your path to 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.280 getting too where you are right now? What some of 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:03.160 the steps that you took a people who helped you 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:07.760 get to where you're at today. Well, you know, my 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:11.760 my background is really different, man. I was I was 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.880 playing ball. Man, I'm a basketball player, and uh, from 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:17.440 my entire life, that's what I did coming out of Gary, 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.320 That's what I did throughout high school. That's what I did. 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:23.640 End up being good enough to actually get a shot 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:27.280 to play overseas and you know, playing professional ball. And 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.919 while I was over there. You know, you never ever 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:33.240 have an idea, man, like what guy has in store 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.200 for you. That's why you just gotta always keep your 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:39.400 eyes opening, your energy open as well to receive. Um. 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:41.840 While I was over there, man, I just always have 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:46.680 been a fan of film. Love movies, man, like every 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.800 other kid that could quote movies, same movies. Man, My 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:52.000 friends get thrown out of class in high school for 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:55.200 being silly doing movies, you know. And uh, here I 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:59.360 am man overseas in Germany playing ball, and uh at 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:01.480 the time, my girlfriend what she was doing was she 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:04.880 was sending me DVDs and I would get these DVDs 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:06.800 and watch the movies. And because I didn't speak the 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:10.040 language and the and the television was in German, I 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:12.920 ended up going through the movie so fast. I started 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:17.920 watching the making of those movies, so making up DVDs. Um, 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.400 you know, bonus feats, are ats, like all those types 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:23.240 of things is what I would scan through. And uh, 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:26.200 I became more interested in like how movies were made 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.919 and actually watching them. So I would actually watched that 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:33.200 person did watch the film, and um, little did I know, man, 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.640 I was, you know, going through a metamorphosis. Man, I 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:40.839 was transforming right there, in that moment in time in 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:43.599 Germany into a filmmaker and did did not know it. 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:47.680 Um ended up finishing, you know, playing over there and 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.040 ended up writing the screenplay which I thought was the 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:53.320 screenplay really was just an idea of a movie on 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:57.680 a me tablet brought it back. I went to California, like, Yo, 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:00.440 I'm gonna go get this movie made, and I everybody 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:01.839 I know it was like, Yo, what what are you 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:04.320 talking about? I'm like, man, I got the script, I 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:06.240 got an idea. Let me see the script. And look, man, 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.720 it's some words written under tablet. I'm like, Yo, this 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:10.960 is dope. But I was able to pitch it and 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:12.919 people was like, man, that's a really good idea for 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.640 a movie. Man, and uh. I took that man and 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:19.599 went to Hollywood, and for like two years, everywhere I went, 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.479 I was told no, laugh at you know what I mean, Like, 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:24.320 what are you talking about? That's how you do. What 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:26.599 you need to do is like you gotta write script, 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:28.880 and here's how you write script. And I learned in 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:33.080 the fly man. Eventually, UM, after about three years of 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.760 really trying to pursue this particular idea that I had 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:39.920 has met everybody in the world that you're not supposed 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.039 to meet. You know what I mean that all the 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.560 people like, yo, you met that dude, that's the words 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:46.240 dude on the planet. I'm like, yn, Okay, well I've 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.400 met him place, you know, And went around and around 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.240 and finally, man, a young man came to me one day. 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.440 I was like, man, listen, a good guy, man, and 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:57.280 you really I was trying to do it the right way. 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:58.960 He was like, let me just be honest with you. 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.159 He's like, to see studios, they're not gonna make your move. 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:04.599 Brobbly Like, for you to make it, you're gonna have 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.080 to go make your own film. Hely, what do you mean, 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.479 what do you mean to make my own film? He's like, 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:13.800 you gotta go get your money right, just scrimp and 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:17.000 go make your movie. And I had never heard of 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:19.320 you know what I mean. I never even thought about 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.920 it that way. I just thought you could go and 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:25.560 and uh man. That changed my entire trajectory of what 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:27.520 I was doing and how I was doing it. And 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:30.920 a year later, Man, instead of me going to knocking 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:33.960 on doors and asking people, could you please give me, 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.760 could you please help me? Could you please take good 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:41.520 chance on me. The conversation directly went from me saying, Hey, 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:43.880 let me put my money together, let me find people 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:49.280 that could invest in me in my project, and uh scrape, scratch, crawl, 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.400 do whatever I need to do and make my own movie. 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:55.159 And that's what I did, man, in the first the 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:58.520 first film set, the first movie set. The first time 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.440 I was ever in a production. It was mine and 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.240 I knew nothing else since that point, man, And as 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:08.599 I was going, you know, so I've been two fourteen years, 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:13.080 that's been the course I've been on the entire time. Awesome. Now, 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.800 when I I wanted to say to his background, he's 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:20.680 worked with talent like Naomi Harris, Michael Coulter or my culture. 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:28.760 You know him. That's a man, Luke Cage, Uh making good, 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:34.480 Michael Eally. Then it's Quaid Hilary Swank, Graw Butler, Robert 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.200 Downey Jr. This is from a guy who was in 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:41.760 Germany watching video tapes, got together and didn't let no 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.800 dream killer getting his way. When he wrote his idea down, 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.200 that's what those dream killers are are rough out that 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.840 they everywhere. They could be your parents, they could be 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.640 your friends, they could be your cousins, your co workers, 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:54.760 people sitting right next to you. Always tell people to 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:56.440 dream killer can be you when you look in the 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.120 mirror if you start believing what they say. And so 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:04.480 here's the un Taylor sitting over there playing basketball. See, 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.200 always telling people you don't know where your success is 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.600 gonna come from, or we're gonna drive you to success. 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:14.120 But he has a new movie starring Michael Eally making 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:18.800 good then it's Quaid called The Intruder. Tell us about 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:21.200 that movie, tell us about the cast in that movie, 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:23.560 because Michael Eally was just on the show. So I 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.560 know about the movie, and I know the talents of 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.200 Michael really, and he was just telling me how great 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:30.400 this movie. And Dennis Quite I know him because he 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:32.960 and I graduated from the same college, University of Houston. 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:37.480 So I got some relationships with you, d Taylor. Okay, man, 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:41.000 I love it. Man. Look here's the thing, the movie, 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.600 The Intruder. Man, I feel like you know, and I'm 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:47.880 saying this because this is you know, at this point 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.959 I'm giving it to you. This is fourteen years in 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.480 the making in terms of like me getting to that show, 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:59.079 making that movie. Um, you know, every time you do something, man, 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:00.719 you try to one up it. You know what I mean. 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:02.600 You're trying to grow. You trying to figure out how 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.000 do you do it better as a filmmaker, as a writer, 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:08.080 as an actor, as an entertainers, Like how do I 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:11.600 keep getting better? And um, I was just finishing the 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:15.360 movie traffic Um, and the script was handed to me 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:19.240 by producer named Mark Bird, and he was like, man, 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.400 the I just keep thinking about you. I got this screenplay. 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:23.960 He was like, no one would get this but you. 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.400 And he was like, just reading it, tell him what 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.480 you think. And I remember reading it on my phone 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.079 and I finished reading it, like in thirty five minutes, 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:33.920 and I said, man, this is incredible. And what I 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:40.520 loved about the screenplay was it was unconventional. It was different. 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.160 It was a thriller, but at the same time, inside 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:47.319 of the screenplay, I love this this polst of this guy, 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:51.760 Charlie Peck, this guy just kept bothering these people. And 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.439 although you're a film fan, you love movies, you know 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.160 what I mean? You love you love get Out? Did 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.920 you love the Signing? You know? Any of these cool 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.360 movie that you could think of prior right, every film 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:06.559 has and antagging is something that you like. Man, we 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.200 got get rid of that thing, you know what I mean. 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:13.160 And I had never read anything that was like locked 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.320 into a location like that, and I said, Man, this 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:20.000 is great, and Blake gotta do everything else. Man. After 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:22.280 reading that, I said, I want to make this film. 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.200 And you know, obviously now everything has to happen. You know, 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:32.360 I am. I am the only one independent filmmaker and 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:37.079 studio brand in Hollywood right now doing this. So every 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.800 movie that I made, I have to go get the financing. 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:45.360 One I'm casting, you know, through relationships. I'm reaching out 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:50.320 to cinematographers through emails right like, I'm that guy. And 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:52.679 nothing has changed. The only thing that's happened now is 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:54.920 there's a resume where people now when I write the 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.480 letter or reach out, people like, oh I know who 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:59.720 you are, you know what I mean? Or I've heard 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:01.360 it and hold that thought. We're gonna go to break 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:03.360 and we're gonna come back. We're gonna finish. Talking about 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.280 this is Dean Taylor, director of the great movie that 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:09.800 that stars Michael Eally then his Quaid making good as 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:12.839 in theaters called The Intruder. Also, we're gonna talk about 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:14.439 some more movies that he has coming back on this 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:18.480 slate and then he's also doing Uh, I guess a 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.040 sequel to meet the Blacks that we need to be 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:24.000 talking about as well, busy man. It all started by 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:31.240 playing basketball in Germany. Dion Taylor, Hi, this ra Sean McDonald. 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:34.480 You're listening to money making conversation on the phone. Is 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:38.719 Dean Taylor. He's the director of this great thriller. Mike 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:40.960 Ealer was on my show. Michael Eiler was on the show, 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.480 uh this past episode talking about how excited it was 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:46.800 to be a part of this movie. And also starts 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:51.360 Dennis Quaid as I guess the dysfunctional neighbor who sells 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.560 them the home and then making good plays. Uh. She 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.920 wanted to buy the home and Michael Eally characters buys 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.760 the home for her, but it comes with things that 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.480 they didn't expect. And the script is introduced to him 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.040 by I wasn't have a good friend of my producer, 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.800 Mike Berg. If you don't know uh, Mark Burg, excuse 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.160 me if you don't know him. And he's the creative 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:17.000 the Sauce series, very popular Saul series that has changed 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:20.720 the game of horror in the Hollywood. And so they're 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:22.720 using the heart in the midst of it. Like like 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:26.040 relationships get you to these different points. And you started 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.600 and people were telling you what you couldn't do, but 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:32.400 you really what what what made you say ignored them 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:35.360 when they was telling you, Man, you're crazy. Man, you 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:37.839 wasted your time. Man, this is not gonna get done. 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:43.480 What made you walk through all that negativity? Man? I 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:47.880 think I think to be honest man, just my upbringing. Um, 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.800 you know when you come from nothing, you know, when 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:53.760 you come from poverty. You know, my mom raised me man, 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:57.920 single single mom, single family home, me and my brother. 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:01.400 She raised boys. And uh, I'm talking about in the 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.080 heart man, in Chicago, heart of gear Indanna. When you 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.520 you come from nothing, man, you got a strong mom, 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:12.120 strong parent and you see them work, you know, get 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.240 through adversity. When you had your lights, you know, set 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.800 off power, set off for two or three days and 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:21.400 she's still going to work and night times by candle 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:23.920 light and you you know, warm the house up with 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:28.040 the oven. Uh. You learn that you learn to fight 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:30.600 through things, man. You learn that you learn that listen 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:33.720 to what people gotta say. You you you understand what 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:37.120 it means to push you know what I mean, and 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:41.080 find success and you apply that to your daily life, 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:43.200 you know, and then you apply that to when you 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:47.400 play sports. You know, basketballs, you know, everybody play who 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:49.880 what makes you better? What makes you get through? You 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.000 don't make the team? Do you quit? You do you 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:53.960 try out to make sure, you know what I mean? 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:57.360 And I think all of those things become a combination 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:00.800 in my life to where, yeah, I get older and 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.679 you know, years old, you're like, you're opened to be 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.120 a director. Everybody, let make it. Tell her us get 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:08.920 out of here. Man. You're like, well, I am that 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.800 what we do. And then what you're realized, man, is 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:18.880 people go from laughing to watch it, from watching to 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:22.320 having a conversation with you about it, and then ultimately 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:25.600 they go to praising what you just went through, what 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:27.920 you did, you know what I mean. And that's a 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.760 big deal, man, that's a big deal when you can 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.720 make when you can make the haters become fans, you 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:35.240 know what I mean. And it's not about it's not 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:39.440 about you becoming some iconic star. It's just the fact 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:41.480 that you said you're gonna do something that no one 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:44.280 else wanted to do or was willing to try and 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:47.400 fail at. And you have to fail a bunch of times. 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.480 I can't tell you all the stories, man, I can't 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.160 tell you all the the sleepless nights. I can't tell 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:56.760 you how many times you know, you know, uh, seventy 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.560 one cents on pump three. You know what I mean. 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.200 I can't tell you. I can't tell you all those things, man, 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.800 that you have to fight through in order to keep going. 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.920 And you keep going by basically keeping your mind motivated, 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.520 like yo, keep going, keep going in there. You gotta 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.040 you gotta word to pay the bills. You gotta figure 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.800 out other hustles to make things go, but you gotta 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:19.200 continue pushing on that dream. And what she said earlier 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:22.960 is so true. Man, dream killers, you know what I mean. 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:24.960 You call him whatever you want to call him, but 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:29.200 you can't let anyone come contaminate your dream. You can't 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:31.480 let anyone knock you down and be like, you can't 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:34.280 do that. I don't care if it's a teacher, auntie, 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:35.960 you know what I mean. You just think, Man, when 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.320 you play sports, the first thing they tell you this, man, 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:40.600 you gotta have a bad plan. You're trying to play 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:44.280 basketball one and eight. Keep it's gonna be to the NBA. 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:46.920 You know and even like, man, that's cool. I understand, 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:49.840 you know I mean, but man, let me try. You 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:51.960 know what I mean. I do understand the backup plan, 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:53.960 But right now I'm gonna get this everything I have. 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:56.480 You know what I mean. I want them to tell 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.760 me you ain't getting in you know what I mean. 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.080 Not you tell me to day I ain't making it, 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.640 you know. So I just think it's a beautiful thing, man, 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:06.760 when you pursue it, and then what happens is what 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:11.160 I believe is when you pursue something wholeheartedly and you 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.800 go after it as hard as you can. I believe 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:20.160 the universe gives you passes to different worlds. You might 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.440 you might start off today like I did, say. You know, 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.080 I'm a basketball player. That's I drive the ball, I shoot, 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:27.160 I dunk. This is my thing. Man, I'm really good. 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.840 You go after that so hard. Sometimes the universe might 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:32.920 put you in a situation where you oversee and you 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.120 put a movie in the DVD plaint and be like, man, 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.560 I love this. This is dope. I never in my 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.440 life thought I would pursue something as hard as basketball. 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.640 And here it is film, you know what I mean? 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:45.840 And here it is now as I do film. Now 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:49.480 I'm going like, man, what's next? And now it becomes philanthropy, 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:53.280 helping people, educating people, empowering our people, because that's what 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:55.960 we don't do it up. So it's just a it's 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.680 it's an interesting time, man. Well it's a beautiful time 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:01.200 because the passion is there and the fact that that's 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.240 why I do this show money making conversation to give 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:05.960 a voice behind the lens and the layer of why 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:08.399 these journeys mean something. Now, let's get back to the 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.080 movie we started about. We started talking about it at 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:14.920 the end of the first break Stars Making Good Stars 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:19.880 Michael Elis stars. It's called The Intruders in Theaters. What 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.240 can we expect from that movie? And how did the 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:26.439 casting come about? So so the movie is uh, the 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:30.119 movie is um. It's an incredible thriller man with so 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:34.359 many layers. Um. Once I read the script and selling 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:37.199 over with the script, I actually Megan diod was like 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.159 the first on my list. I had reached out to 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:42.159 Megan before. I had wanted to do something with her 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.960 and our schedules in the line, and when I read this, 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:46.879 I said, man, this will be great for her. The 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:49.359 script of Reasoning was not written with the black cast, 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.600 so that was what I did. I might know there's 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:55.479 gotta be some affluent black people, because I said, man, 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:57.200 it would be really really good to see us in 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:00.239 this light, you know what I mean, where they their 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:02.560 own businesses, they worked their own jobs, and oh, by 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:04.760 the way, they get ready to buy a three million 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:07.240 hollar home, you know what I mean. So that was 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:09.840 the first thing. Michael Eally, I did not know him. 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:12.480 I just thought he would be great for this, and uh, 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:15.399 I reached out to him independently, and then I reached 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:17.720 out through his agents and teams, and we had a 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.840 couple of mutual friends. Some Gary Owen, the comedian, was 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.399 his friend. After we knew Gary from the Meet the 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:27.560 Black series. Gary knew him from UH Think Like a 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:31.000 Man series, and Gary was actually someone that told Mike, like, yo, 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:33.640 man Diana's dog, you should work with him, and uh 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.840 that was that how we got him. Dennis Quaid was 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:40.440 an interesting get man because when I read the script, 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:43.800 I thought Dennis Quaid was my first choice. Did not 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:47.000 know Dennis Quaid had no idea Dennis would even think 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:50.560 about doing a movie like this, and um, everyone was like, man, 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:52.199 he came in the Dennis Quais I don't do this, 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:54.280 you know. It was like why not? And I was like, 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:58.040 I wrote Dennis Quaid a letter, and I shared the 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:00.680 letter through his manager and his age and I gave 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:02.800 it to them a few times and said please. His 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:04.959 manager and agent got the letter, was like, man, this 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:07.399 is great. We're gonna send it to Dinner's gonna read it. 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:10.800 He read the letter, read the script. Next thing I know, man, 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.840 I was on a phone call with Dennis Quaid, this 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:19.040 Dennis Quaid, and I was like, oh my god, Quaid. 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:22.240 So I'm like dripping out. I'm talking to him on 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:25.399 the phone and he's like, man, I love the screenplay, 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:30.080 love your letter. When did we start? And that blew 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:33.000 my mind. There. It was a life mean, life changing 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:35.280 moment for me, you know what I mean, Not because 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:37.600 it was just you know, about getting him in the movie, 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:40.520 but what it was, man, when you when you black 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:44.440 or white, black or white, when you have an opportunity 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:48.040 man to work with someone that's legendary, you know what 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:49.720 I mean. And this is coming from a place to 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:52.240 wear and he don't need no job, you know what 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:54.280 I mean. It's one thing you get him, man, you 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.000 need a job like, no, this is Dennis Quaid. Man, 0:19:57.640 --> 0:19:59.040 you know what I mean for him to pick up 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:00.840 the phone and call you to say, Man, I love 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.280 your vision and what you're talking about. I want you 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:05.879 to direct me in this. For me, it was the 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:10.119 first time while I was like, Man, okay, now the 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.879 heat is on. We've done all the running. You've been 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:15.679 running for fourteen years, you know what I mean, And 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:18.359 now you get to the start line now right then, 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:21.600 I'm working years. That was iconic for me, man, And 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:24.960 the movie was beautiful. So we got there. And I 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.199 would tell you, man, if you're an audience member and 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:29.760 you're listening to this show, if you want to see 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:34.840 something that makes you scream at the movie screen, this 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:37.360 is the movie. We This is the movie. If you're 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:39.760 a fan of The Shining, This is the movie. If 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:41.960 you're a fan of When a Stranger Cause, this is 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:45.159 the movie. If you love Get Out, this is the 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:48.879 movie right quiet place. Um, it has all of the 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:53.320 elements and that's everything. You're laughing, you're talking back to 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:56.320 the people on the in the movie, and ultimately at 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:58.640