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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, February third, twenty twenty one, season sixteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number ninety six. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: The Break, presented by Geico. We are live from the

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Speaker 1: s WBC Mortgage studios. At the start, I got Nick,

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Speaker 1: Amber and Dave with me. We're talking about the quarterback today.

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Speaker 1: We want to spend a little time on this quarterback

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Speaker 1: Will also get into our the second half of our

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Speaker 1: offensive review. Last week we hit the quarterback position. We

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Speaker 1: Let's start first with this quarterback carousel. Nick, give us

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Speaker 1: where things stand right now between the Cowboys and Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 1: I really don't know. I mean I to sit here

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Speaker 1: You know, he's got a manageable contract, he's still fairly

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Speaker 1: want to even if it's just a year, I'm focused

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Speaker 1: on twenty twenty one, two, twenty three or twenty four.

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Speaker 1: This year. I want to have him and then figure

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Speaker 1: out and all this other mess, especially around defense, and

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Speaker 1: we got to figure out the old line. So I

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Speaker 1: do not want to add another area of concern, of

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Speaker 1: uncertainty of like, oh, we don't know if this is

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Speaker 1: really gonna work out. At least with DAC, with Doc,

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Speaker 1: we know what he is. Yeah, I agree with Amber

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Speaker 1: on this, like, there's not much that a team can

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Speaker 1: offer me. I mean, it would have to be so

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Speaker 1: obscene that I would be like, I can't pass this up,

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Speaker 1: Like five first round it is like something so crazy

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Speaker 1: to where it's like, well, I absolutely cannot pass this up.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just a believer in I think the history

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Speaker 1: of it shows no matter where you select them, it

444
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Speaker 1: is a crapshoot to get a quarterback that that's gonna stick.

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Speaker 1: And and I but the flip side of that is

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Speaker 1: you don't have a shot in the NFL if you

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Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback, like you are not gonna win.

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Speaker 1: You just cannot win without a quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And so from that standpoint, if I have a guy that,

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Speaker 1: as Dave says, I agree, is a top five quarter

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL, I feel really good about that.

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Speaker 1: There's not much you can give me that makes me

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Speaker 1: say I'm gonna I'm gonna trade him. Like it would

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Speaker 1: have to be something that was so just crazy that

455
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Speaker 1: that that it would have it would force me to

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Speaker 1: trade him. I know we got to take a break here,

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Speaker 1: but I want to say one thing to Amber's point

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Speaker 1: about I got you know, other problems. You know, you

459
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Speaker 1: realize that signing a guy to a forty million a

460
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Speaker 1: year contract isn't really going to help you drastically fix

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Speaker 1: those other problems. I mean, you're still gonna have them,

462
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Speaker 1: and it's gonna even be harder to fix them. But

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Speaker 1: but I get the point of, well, you know, at

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Speaker 1: least you got the quarterback and you can go win.

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Speaker 1: But you also got to remember this too, Derek, about

466
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Speaker 1: when you said you know about what you wouldn't trade

467
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 1: and all that, you gotta remember who's doing the deal,

468
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Speaker 1: and it's Jerry, and it's Stephen who in the negotiations.

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Speaker 1: And if they feel like they are far away from

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Speaker 1: making this happen, now do you if it gets down

471
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Speaker 1: to it, you know, it's gonna be a different It's

472
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Speaker 1: gonna be a different scenario for them knowing we're really

473
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Speaker 1: closely just getting a comp pick for him. So if

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Speaker 1: they know that, you know, if it's hot or cold

475
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Speaker 1: in the trade, you know, then they may need to say,

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Speaker 1: you know, it might change their thought a little bit

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Speaker 1: like well you had to get something like oh they

478
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Speaker 1: should have got more. They couldn't get more because the

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Speaker 1: time was running out. The good example there is what's

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Speaker 1: happening in Houston right right. When you get to a

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Speaker 1: point where you know you're not gonna keep this guy

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Speaker 1: long term, then you gotta get something, So I get you.

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Speaker 1: If you get to that point they don't fel like

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to do a deal, then they

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Speaker 1: get what they can get, and hopefully it would be

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Speaker 1: a big haul. I'm just saying right now, based upon

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Speaker 1: what we've heard, is that both sides want to get

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Speaker 1: a deal done. I'm not entertaining the idea of trading

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Speaker 1: him right now. For me, he is a valuable commodity.

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Speaker 1: He is a guy, and I'll take your scenario like,

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Speaker 1: I don't even care if that means that I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: have a little less talented other positions in order to

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Speaker 1: keep him. What I've seen is you could still win

494
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Speaker 1: championships like that. What I've not seen is the flip,

495
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Speaker 1: which is winning a championship without a good quarterback. Like

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Speaker 1: the only time you do that is when you have

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Speaker 1: an excellent defense, and this defense is so far from

498
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Speaker 1: being excellent, Like that's not even in my rain of

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Speaker 1: my frame of reference right now. So I just think

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Speaker 1: you're much closer to getting where you want to go.

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Speaker 1: If you have the quarterback in place, I'm not willing

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Speaker 1: to give that up. All right, we're gonna take our

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Speaker 1: little bit more about the offense. We're gonna start with

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Speaker 1: our offensive review that we started last week. We talked

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Speaker 1: about quarterbacks and wide receivers. Now I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about running backs, and I'll start first with the fact

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00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,239
Speaker 1: that Zeke Elliott's yards per game have declined every year

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Speaker 1: of his career, hitting a low this year of sixty

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00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: five point three yards per game. What are your expectations

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00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: for his future here with the Cowboys. Let's start first

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Speaker 1: with you Amber. My expectations, um, how many years does

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Speaker 1: he have left on his contract. I forgot even four

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Speaker 1: or five. Does drop the Foe's eva. It's out there,

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Speaker 1: I solve the chart. He's the farthest one though, right

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Speaker 1: in his way. But you know what, I'm not ready

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Speaker 1: to give up on him. As far as my expectations,

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Speaker 1: I do think that he can be better this year.

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Speaker 1: Last year was very unfortunate, disappointing, But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't like he was the only player playing bad.

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Speaker 1: There were so many other players that you expected the same,

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Speaker 1: expected them to do better as well, and they just didn't.

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Speaker 1: So that's how I see it. It wasn't like just him.

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00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: So I am expecting him to be able to come

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Speaker 1: back and help the Cowboys. I'm expecting them to be

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00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: able to run the ball a lot better. But that

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00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: will only happen if you get the right help in

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Speaker 1: the old line. You need to reinforce the on line,

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Speaker 1: get that better. Don't know what's gonna happen with Tyrn.

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00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure we're gonna talk about him later, but those

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Speaker 1: are things that you need in order to have seek

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Speaker 1: seek become successful again. And to me, I don't care

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Speaker 1: about this whole oh where the NFL is a passing

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Speaker 1: game league type of thing. I need to be able

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Speaker 1: to trust my running game and I need to be

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Speaker 1: able to them to be powerful once again. And I

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Speaker 1: think Zeke still has it in him. He still does,

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Speaker 1: but only time will tell. Right now, I still have hope,

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Speaker 1: but it's gonna take for us to get into this

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Speaker 1: next season to really see if he is still that

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Speaker 1: kind of running back. Dave Well, as we alluded to,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the contract, the contract kind of makes it

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Speaker 1: a mood point at least for two more years. You

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00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: can get away from it without having to do anything

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00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: crazy after the twenty twenty two seasons. So you got

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Speaker 1: two more seasons at minimum with Zeke, and at least

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, because I think I think he is

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Speaker 1: a good enough player. I mean, I think it's it's

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Speaker 1: silly to think you're going to trade him for something

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Speaker 1: worth trading for. And I think you're a better team

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Speaker 1: with him on the roster than without. Like, he's not

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Speaker 1: so bad that he needs to be off the roster.

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00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: That's silly. So you run it back hopefully, you know,

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00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: hopefully the offensive line is healthier, Hopefully your quarterbacks play

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00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: is better, and I think he will look like a

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Speaker 1: much better player if all that happens. I've said this

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Speaker 1: a million times since the midpoint of last season. It's

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00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: a shame that you're saying that about a ninety million

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00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: dollar running back, like for the money, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: throw up the best plays of Alvin Kamara's season or

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Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook's season or even Aaron Jones. It looks vastly different,

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Speaker 1: Like Zeke didn't make plays like that, and if you're

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Speaker 1: worth ninety million dollars, you should be able to make

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Speaker 1: a few plays like that, regardless of what's available on

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Speaker 1: your offense. So yeah, I mean, I think it's it's

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Speaker 1: fair to say maybe he can get back there, But

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Speaker 1: right now, Zeke is not one of the top top

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Speaker 1: tier running backs in the NFL. And that's okay if

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Speaker 1: you have talent around him, and hopefully they will, so

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Speaker 1: that's kind of I'm just we're getting a disappointing return

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Speaker 1: of investment on this contract, but I'm optimistic that they

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Speaker 1: can correct course here next season and the season after that. Nick, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, who have you not had a disappointing return

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Speaker 1: from a big contract that you've had in the last

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Speaker 1: five years. I mean, you could even say Zack Martin.

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Speaker 1: Jack Martin has been really good. It's been a little

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Speaker 1: disappointing in the last year just because he got hurt.

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Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, he's been outstanding other than that,

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Speaker 1: though everybody else is. I don't know if it has

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Speaker 1: met the expect and kind of a function of a

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Speaker 1: bad team though, like they just played bad as a team.

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Speaker 1: So it's hard to really point out some people that's like, oh, hey,

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Speaker 1: but they were good, you know, well I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't think so it's you get paid individually. I think

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00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: you can get you can get reviewed individually. And I

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Speaker 1: don't think that DeMarcus Lawrence has met the contract that

635
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: he's done. I know Alan Smith hasn't. I know Zeke hasn't.

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Speaker 1: I mean Tyrant Smith is, because it's it's not really

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Speaker 1: a great deal, you know. Lyle Collins did his first

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00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: year after then he got hurt last year. So it's

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00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: hard to say that Amark Cooper he's been Yeah, Amark Cooper,

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Speaker 1: you can say had had a good year for that.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, get ready, I'm just saying, what do

642
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Speaker 1: you h No, I'm just saying, I mean, none of

643
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: them are is gonna be what what backs deal is

644
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: and in the scrupany for that is you know, I mean,

645
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: he's got to be you know, he's got to be Superman.

646
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: He really has to be, especially with the deal he's

647
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: about to get. So well, you know, I go to quarterbacks.

648
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: They're the only put player on the team that win

649
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: loss record goes with him, and championships are part of

650
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: what you talk about with them. So I think that's

651
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: going to be the expectation. When you make forty million,

652
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: fans are gonna be looking around saying, we need to

653
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: be in some championship games and we need to be

654
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: in some super Bowls if you're going to be worth

655
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: the money you're getting paid. This this setup of you know,

656
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: WebEx or whatever, it doesn't really allow us to have

657
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: these great conversations. But like I said something earlier, I'm

658
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: curious to see what everyone thought about because I said

659
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: that I think Dak is a good quarterback, and you

660
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: guys are saying that you think he's a great quarterback,

661
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: and so I think maybe, I mean, I'll let y'all where, like,

662
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: where is he being great? I don't under I just

663
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: don't see. I'm not a Dak hater. You have to

664
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: sign him I'm signing him. That's what I want to do.

665
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to do anything else. But I it's

666
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: a risky because I think he's good. I don't think

667
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: he's great. I mean, I don't know why. It's all

668
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: based on a curve. So you tell me what quarterbacks

669
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: in the league are better? And and as Dave, like

670
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: Dave threw it out there, like, I don't think there

671
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: are a lot that are better. I really don't. But

672
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: just because there's thirty two picks in the first round

673
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: doesn't mean there's thirty two first round grades. So again,

674
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not that logic. You can apply that

675
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: logic the same way. Just because I mean, just because

676
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: you don't think Dak is amazing doesn't mean that there

677
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: are very many quarterbacks that are better than him. Okay,

678
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: but I mean, but but they're asking, but that's no what.

679
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: But my point is is that is that here we are.

680
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: He's got to get paid like a great quarterback. He's

681
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: got he's got to get paid that that way and

682
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. You know, I'm just saying it's it's risky.

683
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: I just don't know where people that that love Dak

684
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: and they say he's been doing great, and I'm like,

685
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: butt where, Okay, I'll put it like this. I'll I'll

686
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: put it like no, no, no no, I'll put it like this.

687
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: If you've watched Dak play, I think, yeah, have you

688
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: have you seen moments where you're like, he does extraordinary

689
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: things that other quarterbacks don't necessarily do, or that only

690
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: a handful of other quarterbacks do. And I think there

691
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: are things like that that I look at him, and

692
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: that's that's the other reason I'll apply to golf. That's

693
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: one reason why I don't think golf is that player,

694
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: because when I watch golf, I think a lot of

695
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: the things where he makes plays they are based upon

696
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: scheme because he has a wide open receiver, because his

697
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: coach was able to scheme up something for him to

698
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: have a wide open receiver. I have not seen him

699
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: make a ton of plays and I was like, Wow,

700
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: that was an amazing play that was made by the quarterback.

701
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: And that's how we think about all players that we

702
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: think are great. They make plays. We do it number

703
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: of time in every game that you watch Pat Mahomes,

704
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: You're like, oh my god, that dude's amazing. I think

705
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: Dak has moments like that and So that's what makes

706
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: me think he is a great quarterback. Dak makes plays

707
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 1: for this team that otherwise would not be made. There.

708
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: I'll put it like this. He makes plays for this

709
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: team that we didn't see made during the other part

710
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: of the season when he didn't play this year, by

711
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: any quarterback that played, that's the difference. But you're comparing

712
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: them to the backups. No, I'm just saying, But I'm saying,

713
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: if you're gonna compare quarterback, you're gonna talk about who

714
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: is great and who's not. The great ones they make

715
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: those plays that we didn't see, those plays like you

716
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: don't see those plays when you watch a lot of

717
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league. There are Again, he is among

718
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: those players in the league. That's probably four or five

719
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: up there that make the kind of plays that without them,

720
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: you don't get that play. Okay, but I think I

721
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: think you're talking about athletic plays like get off me

722
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: type things where he's big, moves the ball. Then right,

723
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: that's right, he does make those do not count? Right,

724
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: It certainly counts. Let me finish my point. That counts.

725
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about third and nine slant over the

726
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: middle of the ball, wasn't there. His accuracy is not Okay,

727
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: So if that's the case, I'm just saying he doesn't

728
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: make all the throws he's that's fine. He's a good quarterback.

729
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: He's a good quarterback. You're gonna have to pay him

730
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: like a like a great quarterback. I think he's a

731
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: good quarterback. I think the argument that you're making is

732
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: in order to be great, you got to be great

733
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: at everything. And I don't think that's the case for

734
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: all quarterbacks that you're calling great. Name a quarterback other

735
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: than Mahomes that's great at everything, like, there isn't one.

736
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: There isn't one and so and so. My point is, yeah,

737
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: he might have some holes in his game. There might

738
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: be parts of his game where he's better than others.

739
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: My point is, can he make plays that other guys

740
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: don't make? And I think that's what makes him a

741
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: great player. And I do think that's the case. Okay,

742
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: I just I'm gonna just agree to disagree on this one.

743
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: I think he's a good player. I think his supporting

744
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: cast is better than him. Go ahead, Nick, if you

745
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: let's forget about the money, Let's forget about him not

746
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: being under contract or anything. Let's assume he's under contract

747
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: for a fair deal or whatever. Would you still be

748
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: looking at other quarterbacks to bring here or would you

749
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: be okay with having him as your starter? Um, I

750
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not sure how that applies, but I'll

751
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: say yet, because I wrong way you're You're you're comparing

752
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: money to the quarterback. And that's just that's not about

753
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: being great or good or whatever. That's just part of

754
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: the business aspect of it, whether you like it or not.

755
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: There's money and a certain amount of money that's involved

756
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: in making these type of deal deals, and I think

757
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: that's how you're looking at it. You're comparing the money

758
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: to the talent. And I think that it's just by default,

759
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: that's just how this league is structure, and that's just

760
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: kind of what you have, no no in order to

761
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: keep a quarterback. All I'm saying is is that if

762
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: you ever seen like a boat, Have you ever seen

763
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: a boat parked in an apartment complex? You know, or

764
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: Lambordini or something like that, And it's like why, yeah,

765
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: But it's this it's all about people's priorities, which you're different.

766
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: And all that's all I'm saying is is that I

767
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: know you're so you're saying this team is an apartment

768
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: complex and Dak is a Lamborghini. What I'm saying it's

769
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: about to be that what we're saying about it be

770
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: that way if you pay him that way. And so

771
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: when when you take out money, Amber, I don't I

772
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: don't think you can take out money, because that's what

773
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm talking about here. Is he good enough to play

774
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: on my team? Of course, of course he's good enough.

775
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: But all I'm saying is is that you're putting that

776
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 1: money in there, and I wonder how it's gonna how

777
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna affect the other other teams, because if you

778
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: go and look at all these other contracts, I don't

779
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: think the team has done that well. But I would

780
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: also prob but I would say this. I will also

781
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: throw this out there. If you look at where Dak

782
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 1: is in his career, I think you'd be hard pressed

783
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: to find quarterbacks at that stage of their career who

784
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: were better than he was at that same stage. And

785
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: that's where again I think you have to project a

786
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: little bit. Here is he where Aaron Rodgers is right now? No, no, no,

787
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 1: but but but my point is he's on the trajectory

788
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 1: of I think what great quarterbacks become in the NFL.

789
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: You look at Tom Brady an early part of his career.

790
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,479
Speaker 1: It wasn't great immediately he went to the Super Bowl media,

791
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: but that was because he had a great coach, he

792
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 1: had a great defense, he had a great running game.

793
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: And that's the same thing. Dak had the benefit of

794
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 1: having really good supporting casts around him when he first started.

795
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: That's what got him off to the start. But you

796
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 1: look at how his trajectory has gone, and you see

797
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: this last year. This last year, for those games that

798
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: he played, that offense was running through him. He was

799
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: the reason that the offense was going. And I understand

800
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: the record was what the record was. But beside that fact,

801
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: the fact is that he was making plays for this team.

802
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: Gets he was getting no support from the defense. He

803
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: was getting a team that was turning the ball over

804
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: at a rapid pace. There were a lot of things

805
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: that were going against him. But if you just evaluate

806
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: his play, I think he was playing at that level

807
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: of that next level quarterback, and I think his trajectory

808
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: is ascending. Day. What do you have on this let's

809
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: talk about running back. I don't I don't think I

810
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: have anything to add that Derek didn't already say. Uh,

811
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: and Nick, I'm not I'm not putting these words in

812
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: your mouth, but I don't think you can discount the

813
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: backup talk because a large port sand thought Andy Dalton

814
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: was coming for Dak's job and thought that he should,

815
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: and people people in the national media were saying as

816
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: recently October. As October, I believe it was Tony Tony

817
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: Dungee that said this could be a blessing in disguise

818
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: that Dak got hurt because now the Cowboys can get

819
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 1: back to ground and pound and all that stupid crap,

820
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: and how that work out. How much better did Dak

821
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: look than anything that Dalton or Garrett Gilbert or Benda

822
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: Nucci was able to throw out there? I think, yeah,

823
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: I think I said it last week. From the time

824
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: of MARII Cooper got here, the ways that he has

825
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: grown as a passer are incredible to me. I mean it,

826
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: like Derek said, it all runs through him. He can

827
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,479
Speaker 1: make every freaking throwing the book. I mean, how many

828
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: dimes have we seen him drop on Amari or some

829
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: of these throws down the seam where he threw cdee

830
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: lamb completely open, which, by the way, was everybody's knock

831
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: on him that he could never do that. He does

832
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: stuff like that in his sleep these days. And on

833
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: top of that, he's much more athletic than your average

834
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: starting NFL quarterback. I believe he's got twenty three or

835
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: twenty five rushing touchdowns. And that's why I'm you know,

836
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm terrified by these comments from Jerry Jones that he

837
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: needs to do less of that. I couldn't. I could

838
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: not disagree more. That needs to be part of his

839
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: game forever, as long as he's healthy and mobile enough

840
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: to do it. Like I said, I think when you

841
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: take out the guys who are getting closer to retirement,

842
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers are the only quarterbacks in

843
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: this league that I think you can definitively say are

844
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: better than Dak Prescott. You know, if you want, if

845
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: you want to say Deshaun Watson's better, I'm not going

846
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: to argue with you, But I don't think you can

847
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: make a bulletproof case that that's true. That's the going

848
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: rate for a guy that's in the top five, and

849
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: I feel totally comfortable paying it. I don't know if

850
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: that means he'll win the Cowboys a super Bowl, but

851
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: I think he gives them a better chance than going

852
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: back to the well. And I'll make this final point

853
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: too right before and if you have some melt in

854
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Speaker 1: their news, but but if you but if you watch

855
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: other other quarterbacks, even some of the really good ones,

856
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: they miss throws two. And I think sometimes we watch

857
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: our guys because we're watching every moment of their entire career,

858
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 1: and so we see all the warts. Uh, and sometimes

859
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 1: it has a way of kind of making you forget

860
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: about all the great moments. But I look at these

861
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: other games, and I'll watch these quarterbacks and they miss

862
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: them too. I know Aaron Rodgers. I watch games where

863
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers just doesn't seem to hit some open receivers

864
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: that he should be able to make those throws. It

865
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: happens sometimes. Yeah, well then then something needs to change.

866
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: As far as I mean, you hope that the offensive

867
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: coordinator and dec will be able to work together this

868
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: year more than they did last year, as far as

869
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: on the field or whatever. Because as as much as

870
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: the boy genius has been talked about from the offensive

871
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: coordinator standpoint, one thing that they completely sucked at last year,

872
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: regardless of who the quarterback was. And that's getting off

873
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: to a good start. So what's happening between Monday and

874
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: Saturday that they takes them too long to get going

875
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: here and and and that, and you know you can say,

876
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: well that's two years in a row now. A lot

877
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: of Dak's numbers have been late in the game. Who

878
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: do we put that on? I mean, offensive coordinator and

879
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: whatever it is, because whether they're getting hollow stats, whatever

880
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: it is. Even the NFC Championship game against the Packers,

881
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: they were down so bad early. I'm not putting it

882
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: all on Dak. I'm saying that they got to figure

883
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: that out. He needs way less stats. If he gets

884
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: way less stats, he'll have more wins, you know. I mean,

885
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: if they can do their damage early on and then

886
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: lean on Pollard and Zeke, maybe I'll should say it

887
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: Zeke and Pollard either way, lean on those two backs.

888
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 1: And I think that it'll be better for DAK than

889
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: to try to throw their way back into game and

890
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: get all these five hundred yard games with a loss.

891
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: And part of that is on this defense. If their

892
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: defense can make some stops early and not put them

893
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: in a fourteen nothing hole. Then yeah, it creates a

894
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: better opportunity for your offense to be able to instead

895
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: of going basically, we're gonna go eleven personnel and throw

896
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: the rest of the game. You don't have to make

897
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: that decision. You can you can have some variability to

898
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: what you're doing on offense. All right, we're gonna take

899
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943
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: about the running back position. We had started a conversation

944
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: on Zeke and his his number of yards per season.

945
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: There was another interesting thing that stood out to me

946
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: as I was looking at running backs around the league.

947
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: There were only two running backs with more than twelve

948
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 1: hundred yards last season. That was Derrick Henry with two

949
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: twenty seven and Dalvin Cook with one thousand, five hundred

950
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: and fifty seven. Zeke's nine hundred and seventy nine yards

951
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: ranked eleven in the league. Now I want to give

952
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: it perspective in twenty nineteen, he was fourth in the

953
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: league with thirteen fifty seven. He was first in the

954
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: league in two and eighteen with fourteen thirty four. So

955
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta put it in context. Last year

956
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: what could have been an aberration because of two years

957
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 1: before that he was right up there in the top five,

958
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: one year being the top rusher in the league. My

959
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: question for you guys, is is Zeke still a premier

960
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: running back in the National Football League when compared to

961
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: his peers. Let's start with you, Dave. I mean when

962
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: you say premier, I mean he's certainly like he's one

963
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: of the only feature backs in the league, like in

964
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: terms of like a guy who doesn't really share the workload.

965
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: And I mean he's he's obviously a good player. But

966
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: I think I said that in the last segment, Like

967
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: I forgot Derrick Henry, So Derrick Henry, Alvin Kamara, um

968
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: say Quan when he's healthy, Aaron Jones, Like, I mean,

969
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: I don't think of Zeke in that conversation, not right now?

970
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: Well then that's what I was asking. Yeah, he's not

971
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: a good starting running back. Yeah no, okay, Amber, I

972
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 1: mean not right now, not after the kind of season

973
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 1: that we saw. But like I said before, I think

974
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: he can get back into that group and that conversation.

975
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: He has gone down further from the group, but I

976
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: mean he's still kind of up there a little bit.

977
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it depends how you're looking at it, but

978
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: he he's still a guy that he has certain skills

979
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: that it's hard to find in a running back. And

980
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: it's like I said before, it's unfortunate that we didn't

981
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: get to see it this past year, but I'm still

982
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: not giving up on him, and I think he can

983
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: get back into being one of the running backs that

984
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: the NFL talks about as a high running back. Yeah.

985
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm glad you're asked me last, because I

986
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: would just say irrelevant. It's kind of like what David

987
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 1: said earlier. It's irrelevant whether or not he is good

988
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: or not, or top five or top ten because he

989
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,919
Speaker 1: is the top number one running back on your team,

990
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: because that's what the contract says. And that's what you

991
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: know when they drafted him fourth overall, they they knew

992
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 1: they were going to have to do a deal like that,

993
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: which m and they did and so and he deserved

994
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: the deal. You know, he had played to that level.

995
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: But that's what got Jerry Jones in trouble a long

996
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: time ago, was paying these guys in the nineties from

997
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: what they have done and not what they're going to do.

998
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: It's hard to project. It's really hard to project. I

999
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: do I agree with both of them. I think that

1000
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: they can. You know, He's he's good right now, he's

1001
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: on that second level. But you know, Zach Martin, Tyrant Smith,

1002
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: Lyell Collins, Dak Prescott, they're they're really they're really good

1003
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: for a reason, and they're and that's why that they

1004
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: make a lot of money. Are going to make a

1005
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: lot of money. So get those pieces around him, and

1006
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: I bet Zeke looks better. Yeah, you know the one thing.

1007
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: And I'll say this like, I think, as bad as

1008
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: the season was, relatively speaking for Zeke, I think there

1009
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: are a lot of things that suggests to me that

1010
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: he'll be back to that thirteen hundred to fifteen hundred

1011
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: range in yards next year. If those guys are back

1012
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: and healthy, if you've got his offensive lineback, I totally

1013
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 1: expect he'll be back in that range, which means he'll

1014
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: be up there. As I said before, there are only

1015
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: two guys above twelve hundred this year. He'll be right

1016
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 1: back up there in that top five next year if

1017
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: those things fall into place as far as the health

1018
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: of those guys. The one area of his game that

1019
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: I still have not seen him ascend to the level

1020
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: that I thought he would when they drafted him is

1021
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: his ability to catch out of the backfield. I remember

1022
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: having a conversation with Gary Brown at the time that

1023
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: they made this pick and him talking about how, hey, man,

1024
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: this guy can really catch the ball. I think one

1025
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: of the best parts about his game is that he

1026
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: can be a guy that can get catch balls out

1027
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: of the backfield and make something happen in the open field.

1028
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: We know he has ability to make plays in the

1029
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: open field, he just hasn't been consistent in catching the ball.

1030
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: And there are a number of times this season and

1031
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: really throughout his career when he's at opportunities and just

1032
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: doesn't make the catch. And so that's a part of

1033
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: his game that I really think. I would love for

1034
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: him to invest more time in that part of his

1035
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: game because I think if he gets better there, I

1036
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: think his total yards would be much better. I think

1037
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: he'd become a much better weapon for this team, especially

1038
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: knowing what you got at wide receiver and a tight end.

1039
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: I think you got guys that can clear out space

1040
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: for him and leave him in situations where he's only

1041
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: got one guy to basically beat, And I think in

1042
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: those situations it would be a great matchup for the Cowboys.

1043
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: He just hasn't been consistent enough catching the ball. All right,

1044
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 1: let's move on. I just I mean, I'm gonna sound

1045
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: like a jerk because I already said that I think

1046
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: Zeke is going to rebound. But I sort of take

1047
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: issue with the idea that Zeke is great at making

1048
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: plays in the open field, because that's been his biggest problem.

1049
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned, I don't really care how

1050
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: many Russian yards he winds up with, like that's a

1051
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 1: volume stat and especially with a guy like Tony Pollard

1052
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: behind him, Like I don't care if Zeke has fifteen

1053
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: hundred yards. I care if Zeke makes a couple of

1054
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: people miss and turns a four yard gain into a

1055
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: twenty two yard gain, or if Zeke slips the tackle

1056
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: on a screen and goes sixty yards, Like we haven't

1057
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: seen that enough. You know, he did it as a rookie.

1058
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: He's done it. He's shown that he's capable of doing it.

1059
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: But that's what's been missing from his game. And I

1060
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: know there is value in consistently getting four yard hammerings,

1061
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: and that's what you hear from Jerry Jones and Mike

1062
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: McCarthy when this comes up. There is value in that.

1063
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: But that's not why I'm paying you fifteen million dollars.

1064
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: I'm paying you fifteen million dollars to catch the ball

1065
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: up the line of scrimmage, juke three tackles, and get

1066
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: forty yards down field. And that's what's been missing from

1067
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: Zeke's game. But I don't think he's had a lot

1068
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: of open field opportunities because, to be honest with you,

1069
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: not this last year he had guys on him before

1070
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: you get get the ball most of the time. I mean,

1071
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think there were a lot of

1072
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: those opportunities this year. You do well, then that's on him,

1073
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: isn't it. Not Necessarily if the offensive line isn't well

1074
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: enough where he has those opportunities, that's on the offensive

1075
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: Why old on, let me throw this part into this.

1076
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter if you're in the open field, if you're

1077
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: in the middle of the pile, if you're up by twenty,

1078
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: if you're down by four, if you're playing with the

1079
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: starting tackles or not, dacks of corbat doesn't matter. Fundling

1080
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: is a problem regardless, and that was his number one

1081
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: issue last year. It looked like he it just looked

1082
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 1: like he wasn't mentally focused at times. And that's hard

1083
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: to judge that about Zeke. I mean, he's kind of

1084
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: that way, a little bit kind of spacey, and sometimes

1085
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: I do think he's fo most of the time, but

1086
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: some of those fumbles just looked like they what you

1087
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: put it on because I actually think he was trying

1088
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: to do too much. I think a lot of those

1089
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: times he was He's trying to get that extra yard

1090
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: and not not thinking about ball security as much as

1091
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: this extra yard. Maybe that's that's my point. Then I'm

1092
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: not saying he's over here thinking about playing Madden. I'm

1093
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: just thinking that, like or whatever. I'm just like, the

1094
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: focus wasn't always there, And maybe he'll admitted at one point,

1095
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: but you know, I think it wasn't as much fun

1096
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: when Dak was out. I could totally see that. I

1097
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: could absolutely totally see that. Yeah, right, No, I was

1098
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 1: gonna say I know I wasn't having fun. Now, I

1099
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: wasn't getting blasted twenty five times a game, So there's

1100
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 1: no ways he was having fun. Um No, And I

1101
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 1: mean there's something. There's something to what you're saying, for sure,

1102
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: but that kind of goes back to my point is

1103
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: for fifteen million dollars a year, I expect you to

1104
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: make something out of nothing. I like that's I mean,

1105
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 1: I expect that, and it's not. It's probably not fair,

1106
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 1: but welcome to the NFL, I guess no, I mean, honestly,

1107
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: I think it's absolutely fair. I think when you start

1108
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: factoring in the money, you pay guys big money because

1109
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: you expect them to be able to carry the team.

1110
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: I mean, what we've always said since Zeke has gotten

1111
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: here is this offense runs through Zeke. Last year he

1112
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: had an opportunity for it truly to run through him,

1113
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: and it couldn't like it wasn't moving through him. And

1114
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 1: part of that is I don't care how good of

1115
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: running back you are. When you don't have offensive line talent,

1116
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be as productive. And that's just the

1117
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: nature of it. That's not there's nothing we're gonna get

1118
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: around with that that's just the nature of it. Especially

1119
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: with his style of running. He is more of a

1120
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: I think he's more of a bruiser back than he

1121
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: is a an elusive you know, I'm gonna make three

1122
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: people miss type guy. He's not Barry Sanders. So so

1123
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 1: that being said, like, I just don't think without blocking

1124
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: he's going to be as effective. All right, let's real

1125
00:56:53,800 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 1: quick before the question real quick? Um, well, Elier, I

1126
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: think it was Nick that brought this point up as

1127
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: far as contract, and I mostly know about the Cowboys

1128
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: because I'm here and I see it on a day today. Basis,

1129
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: when it comes to giving a guy a contract and

1130
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: then we start seeing somewhat of a decline, are not

1131
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: necessarily that person meeting the expectations of the contract. Is

1132
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: that something very common that happens around the NFL just

1133
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: in other teams, that guys get a contract and then

1134
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: the next year they're just not really being as productive

1135
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: as you expected. Or is that something that mostly we

1136
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: say here with the Cowboys happens everywhere every year, every job.

1137
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: Probably Yeah, by the way, every year, huh, what'd you say?

1138
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: Why does you get so much crap? Why? What? Oh?

1139
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: The Cowboys? These players every time they get a contract

1140
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys, it's like, um, you're you're attacking them

1141
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: so so much. And I'm not saying us, but just

1142
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: everyone in general. So that's just something that's mostly common

1143
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: around the NFL and just something that kind of happens

1144
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: by design every time you give a big contract or

1145
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: extend a contract. But let's be clear. Let's be clear though,

1146
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think that the great players

1147
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: in the league. That doesn't happen. So I think what

1148
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: happens is guys that have a decline. Then fans feel

1149
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: a little duped because they're like, we thought you were

1150
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: one of the great ones, and the Cowboys paid you

1151
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: like you were a great one, and you're turning out

1152
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: to be not a great win. You're turning out to

1153
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: be a good one that's being paid like a great one.

1154
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: And so I think that's where it kind of comes in, like,

1155
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: so we never have any great ones. No, I don't

1156
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: think that's the case. I think they have some great players.

1157
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: But I think it's also a function of the fact that,

1158
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: again the last twenty five years, this team has not

1159
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: been good. I think there's been two guys in the

1160
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: last great I think two guys in the last ten

1161
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: years that have probably been that signed a really big

1162
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: extension and continued to play that way. I would say three.

1163
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,439
Speaker 1: But go ahead, who you're two, Tyrn Smith and Zach Martin.

1164
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,959
Speaker 1: Are you saying how long? I just went back ten years.

1165
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, okay, because I was going back to

1166
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: Witten and and to Marcus and I think they I

1167
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: think they played up to the level of their contracts. Yeah,

1168
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: I would even say Tony did. Tony played up to

1169
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: the level of this contract. I never thought Whitten was

1170
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: breaking the bank anyway, man, I mean, and again that's true. Yeah,

1171
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: but Tyrn didn't either, right, So I don't think Tony actually,

1172
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: I mean Tony play up to this contract. Yeah, I

1173
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: don't think. Not thirty it was like thirty million a year.

1174
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: I mean, and it's it's hard. It's hard to do.

1175
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's hard to do. You know. I

1176
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: love Tony, but but I mean just even a Marty Cooper.

1177
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: I mean, Marky Cooper had a really good year this year.

1178
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: Let's see, let's see what happens. But I mean, back

1179
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: to her point, I remember one offseason where they did

1180
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: like four guys like two thousand and eight, they did.

1181
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: All these guys needed new deals, and none of them

1182
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: were good, you know, I mean, none of them lived

1183
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: up to it. It was Terence Newman, it was Marian Barber,

1184
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: Ums Hamlin, Hamlin, Yeah, all those guys. Yeah. Yeah, it's

1185
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: it's hard and it didn't work from there. Yeah, none

1186
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: of them became better players. And the main reason, too,

1187
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: is it goes back to, like d Law, everything you

1188
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: just said about the guy that's really good, that's paying great.

1189
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: I think him d Law, And I'm thinking, but but

1190
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,479
Speaker 1: do you want to like not pay him? No, you can't.

1191
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: The problem. Can't pay that now you have a hole.

1192
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: And if you don't pay the guy, just like if

1193
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: you don't if you didn't pay Zeke a couple of

1194
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,479
Speaker 1: years ago, you run into that problem. And it's hard.

1195
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: It's a it's a hard deal. I guess maybe what

1196
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: Amber is saying, maybe we should all stop start changing

1197
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: our expectations and just expect that he got the money.

1198
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: But he's still the same player, and the same player

1199
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: is gonna be good in some some games, maybe not

1200
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: so good at others. I don't know, He's not going

1201
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: to be better. We gotta keep you got to keep arguing, like,

1202
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: we gotta keep doing that. That's what keep shows like

1203
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:53,439
Speaker 1: this going well. Not not only that, but I mean,

1204
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean I'm the first one, you

1205
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: know I would I think DeMarcus Lawrence he's not playing

1206
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: up to the con track that he's on, but like

1207
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence is still a hell of a player. So

1208
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: I think it's important to keep that in mind. But

1209
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: at the same time, every Tuesday, these guys direct deposits

1210
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,959
Speaker 1: hit for like a million and a half dollars a week,

1211
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: So that that's my like, deal with it. Oh, people

1212
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: are mean to you because you're making too much money.

1213
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: You know, you know how much I would care if

1214
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 1: I was in that situation. People take my way to

1215
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: the bank. Yeah, I would laugh my way to the

1216
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 1: bank every week and be like, how how much money

1217
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: just hit in my account? So they can deal with it.

1218
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: But a g I promise you it ain't. It ain't

1219
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: a cowboys thing. Literally, I mean the Rams just the

1220
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: Rams just bagged the Lions to take their number one

1221
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: overall thick off their hands. The Eagles. Everybody in the

1222
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: Eagles fan base hates Carson Wins like a year and

1223
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: a half after he was the savior. Uh, you know

1224
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: the Niners don't like Jimmy Garoppolo. I bet you. I

1225
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 1: wonder how much the Bears love Khalil Matt because I

1226
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: know he's still an amazing player, but how much is

1227
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: he helping them accomplish their goals of getting back to

1228
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. They're having the same conversation, you know,

1229
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: fans are having the same conversation up there as fans

1230
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys are having about DeMarcus Lawrence. Yeah, it's

1231
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: very very rare that these guys live up to the

1232
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: expectations that the dollar signs put on them. All Right,

1233
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: So here's what we're gonna do real quick before we

1234
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: in the show. I want to get Super Bowl picks once.

1235
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: You just really quickly tell me who you think is

1236
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: gonna win game versus Kansas City and Tampa Bay. Let's

1237
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: start with you Ampa. I think I won't be mad

1238
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: on whoever wins the game, but I would like to

1239
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: see Kansas win again because I don't know, some Brady

1240
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: has done a hell of a jog over there, and

1241
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: the way he came back and made it happen and

1242
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: made it all the way back to the Super Bowl.

1243
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: But man, that's just gonna be a one record, very

1244
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: hard to beat if he gets another Super Bowl. I

1245
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: don't It's hard to see a quarterback to get that

1246
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: many wins. So I would vote for Kansas Okay, Nick

1247
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: going with the Jayhawks. Also, stop those kids, Kansas City?

1248
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, you know what, I agree. I don't

1249
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 1: want to see him. What's he getting? What's he got

1250
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: six already? Yeah? No, man, no, But but then again,

1251
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: if we're still doing this show in fifteen years, we're

1252
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 1: gonna be like, remember back when Mahomes only had one

1253
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: and now he's got nine. Yeah, I'll go with my Homes,

1254
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: all right, Dave, I'm not picking against Mahomes, but man,

1255
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: it would be. It would be the most NFL thing ever.

1256
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: I like, I'm just I'm not gonna be surprised if

1257
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: the Bucks win. I know, I just basically picked both teams.

1258
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: So I'll say Kansas City. I got Kansas City. Would

1259
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: like to turn out the LSU Fighting Tigers have six

1260
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: players in this game, So Alice, who's gonna win no

1261
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: matter what because there's three guys on each team, So

1262
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: go Tigers. You know such a David response, isn't it?

1263
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: We have a teammate like on our staff who's like

1264
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: Grandpa is the head coach, yeah of the Bucks. Yeah yeah,

1265
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: and we're connected to them now, I will say this, Yeah,

1266
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: I'm actually I don't want this to happen, but I

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna happen. I think the Bucks are gonna

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Speaker 1: win this game. I think right now, Kansas City is

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Speaker 1: having so many issues on their offensive line. They lost

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Speaker 1: their best offensive lineman for the season in that championship game,

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Speaker 1: and I just I look at that and it matches

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Speaker 1: up with something that that Tampa's been doing really well

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Speaker 1: here in the playoffs, which is getting after the pass

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Speaker 1: of Shack Barrett has been amazing. I just I think

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Speaker 1: that's going to be the story of this game. I

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Speaker 1: don't even know how it happens, because I've yet to

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Speaker 1: see a game where Pat Mahomes for an entire game

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Speaker 1: gets held down. But I do think this all is

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Speaker 1: working towards something like that, where this is a situation

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Speaker 1: where Tampa Bay pulls it out and gets a close win.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes, but I don't want that

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Speaker 1: to happen. I really want Kanna City win. I like

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Speaker 1: Kansas City. I'm rooting for them, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna win. All Right, We'll appreciate you guys joining us.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back on next week. We'll maybe get through

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Speaker 1: more of this offensive line break or this offensive breakdown.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about the tight ends and offensive line next week.

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Speaker 1: Till then. For Nick Eatman, Dave Helman, Amber Garcia. I

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Speaker 1: am Derek Eughlton. This has been The Break live on

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