WEBVTT - Does the five-second rule work? 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.199 Brought to you by the two thousand twelve Toyota Camry. 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.680 Welcome to you stuff you should know from house Stuff 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:16.079 Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:19.320 Josh Clark, Charles W. Chuck Bryant's consulting his note, he's 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:22.680 wearing his glasses. Everybody's getting ready to podcast. So that 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:25.920 means just the stuff, you know, stretching, doing my yoga. 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:29.080 You just pet for the fourth time in the last hour, 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:31.760 got more coffee and you think a lot of coffee. 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:36.800 Well that was exciting. Yeah, And while I was getting coffee, 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:38.680 I was like, I used my elbow to press the 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:41.840 buttons to make coffee. Are you doing that now? Um? 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:45.400 I have become I'm trying to think back to what 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:50.080 initiated it, but I've definitely become far more germ conscious. 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:52.519 I'm not a germophobe because I can just be like, 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:56.320 oh god, you know that's fine. You your fingers touched 0:00:56.360 --> 0:01:00.440 your mouth, Stop simpering, right, Like I can get ahold 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:02.840 of myself like that. But at the same time, you 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:06.440 know what it is. It was that it was flesh 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:08.400 eating bacteria when it was going around Georgia for a 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:12.400 little while, and then simultaneously like being aware that, like 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:16.119 the gym is lousy with germs, and I think that 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:18.200 that did a one two number on me, and all 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:20.640 of a sudden, I'm just very I'm very aware of 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:25.760 what I touch. I'm not super germ conscious. I have 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:28.199 been more so though, since we've started learning more about 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:32.680 this crap um. But we have a mutual friend whose 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:37.279 girlfriend won't even keep her toothbrush in the bathroom. Oh really, 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:43.039 she said, why would I among the fecal air? Why 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.120 would I keep my toothbrush in the bathroom? Makes sense? 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:48.760 And uh, she knows who she is. I don't know 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:53.960 who she is. I'll tell you after. Um, so you're 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:56.760 kind of you're okay with it, You're okay with the 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.680 idea of germs. I mean, there is this whole there's 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.840 this whole thing called the hygiene hypothesis, which makes uttering 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:06.400 complete sense to me that if you're allow more germs 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:08.040 and you'll just learn to fight them and have more 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:11.040 robust immune systems. Yes, especially growing up as a child 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:14.399 and the children who develop allergies, it's because they are 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:19.440 raised in a sterile lisol environment. My environment was a filthy, 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:21.880 dirty and and so when they finally get out into 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:27.399 this very filthy, dirty world e g um preschool. They are, 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.120 they don't have any anybodies built up for it. It 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:32.320 makes a lot of sense. I don't know that there's 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:36.520 any hard science that backs it up, but I don't 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:38.480 know that it's ever been disproven. But it's called the 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.080 hygiene hypothesis. It appeals to me. It apeels to me. 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:44.240 I I don't have allergies. I don't get sick that much. No, 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:48.200 and I'm unhealthy as it gets. I wouldn't call you that. No, 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:53.720 I'm in the middle. Yes, I appreciate that. Okay, I guess. Really, 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:59.400 the division line between a germophobe in a non germophobe 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.160 would probably be found somewhere in the five second rule 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:07.200 when don't you think? Sure? So, like if I dropped something, 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:09.200 depending on what it was and where I dropped it, 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:14.440 I would possibly eat it. There's a there's a comedian 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:17.760 here in Atlanta. It's pretty good. His names no Garden Schwartz. 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:23.200 And he's saying that, Yeah, it means Noah black Garden, 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:27.680 I think and uh. He was saying that, Um, the 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:31.480 five second role is basically exists on a sliding scale, 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:33.400 Like if it's a piece of broccoli, it's like a 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:38.480 zero second. If it's like a cheeto, it's like a 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:41.480 whenever I find it rule. Whenever I find it, pick 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:44.200 it up and eat it. Role Um. He does it 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:47.520 way better than me. But he had a great observation 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.680 about the five second rule. The point is for me, 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:54.560 it depends on what it is where it is, not 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.040 really even how long it's been there. I mean, if 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:58.760 if it's because there's so long and it's under the 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:01.040 couch and there's like dust bun he's accumulated on it, 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:03.960 I won't eat it. No, no, no, you wouldn't eat 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:07.640 anything that you didn't recently drop, would you. If you 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:11.800 just found a cookie on the floor, you would eat it. Again, 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:16.640 it depends on where where it was found. Like some 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:22.760 places seem far cleaner to me than others, like mine 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.919 and Humian's apartment is very very clean. So if it 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.440 fell and was just slightly under the couch, yeah yeah, 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.680 I would, Yeah, I'd eat it. It depends. I mean, 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:34.960 if it were a piece of salami or something, I wouldn't. 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:39.000 But there were like a very dry cookie, perhaps am 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:45.799 a good potato chip that wasn't stale yet. It's very clean. 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:49.120 I would blow it off and eat it. Yeah, I would. Um, 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:53.000 since we're talking about our sliding scales, I would eat 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:57.640 nothing that I didn't recently drop, unless it was a 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:02.480 if it was like a little bit sweets, Um the King, 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.320 they're canny, bar the King. If I found one of 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:07.719 those that I had just forgotten that was under my couch, 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:11.080 unwrapped on the floor, I would eat that, no matter 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.240 how long it had been there. I would maybe rinse 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.320 it off, or I would melt it down or in 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:22.360 reform it or do something deconstructed. That's what I would 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:26.159 do that. Um. You know, they released a box a 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.200 selection of caramels called stuff you Should Eat a little 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:32.560 Bit Sweets and it says specifically on their website that 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:36.880 that's in honor of us. Thank you listen jin Um. Okay. 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.920 So I feel like we've gone in depth on what 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:44.320 we'd do with the five second rule. The question still remains, Chuck, 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:46.960 is it Is it viable? Is that a real thing? 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.000 Like if you if you are an adherent to the 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.960 five second rule and you're like, I'm a very clean person. 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:54.440 I only eat stuff that's been on the floor for 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:58.560 five seconds or less. Are you full of it. Well, 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.200 you're sort of full of it, You're totally full of it. 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:03.760 There's a high school student, uh in two thousand three, 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:08.400 Jillian Clark and um she was doing her internship at 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.400 UH fighting l I and I of the University of Illinois, 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:14.600 and she said, you know what, we should do a 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.720 little study because it's the old wives tale about the 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:20.480 five second rule. And she coated, um, these tiles with E. Coli, 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:25.040 which is really gross, and dropped cookies and gummy bears 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.560 and things onto the surface for certain amounts of time, 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.400 and then studied what kind of bacteria picked up. And 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:33.360 of course, no matter how long had they been down there, 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:37.960 bacteria did jump onto the food within five seconds. What 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:39.640 is important to point out, though, is the long you 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.800 left it there, the more it picked up. So the 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.760 five seconds are under is important. Like it's usually not 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:47.640 five seconds for me. If I drop a piece of food, 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.200 I've got it back within my hand in like two seconds. 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:53.479 I've seen it. You're like like a ninja. And it 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:55.880 matters because the longest they are, the more bacteria's gonna 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.520 pick up. Right, yeah, yeah, um, So Jillian Clark just 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:02.280 did this very initial, preliminary investigation. But she was a 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:05.880 pioneer and received the two thousand four Ignoble Prize for 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:11.040 Public Health for her efforts. Yeah. Um, and so she 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:16.280 kind of she established this trail. She blazed the trail. Uh. 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:21.080 And then about four years later, some Clemson University researchers 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.160 really kind of dug in to figure out what was 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.400 going on with this five second rule and built on 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:30.760 Clark's work. Tigers. Yeah, I mean, we gotta say it. 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:37.360 I don't feel like we do. Screw you tigers. Um, 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:39.120 all right, So what did they found out? They found out, Well, 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.040 if you thought that the same thing, right, if you 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.600 thought the E. Coli bacteria and the tiles was gross, 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:47.239 I know where you're going. These guys created a broth 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:50.240 of sam and ella. They call it samuela soup, which 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:53.560 is so nasty. Yeah. And they they applied it to 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.559 three different types of material because I mean, like sure, 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.560 maybe five seconds you're gonna get some bacteria on it. 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:01.920 But what if what doesn't it depend on the kind 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.320 of food? Doesn't it depend on the kind of surface 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:07.800 that comes in contact with So these investigators their pros 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:11.040 they were at Clemson. Um, they applied to salmonella soup 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:15.520 to tile, wood surface and carpet, right, and then they 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:22.120 started dropping bread and bologny on it. Good choice, why not? Um? 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:26.520 And they they found what Clark found that in less 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.360 than five seconds, no matter how short the time, but 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.679 there was a bacterial transfer. Yeah, between a hundred and 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:37.320 fifty and eight thousand bacteria if under five seconds. And 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:42.000 consider this with salmonella, you only need ten individual bacterium 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:46.200 too for what's called it infectious dose. Okay, so that 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:48.280 is five seconds or under. If he left it down 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.520 there for a minute, it was gonna be ten times that. 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:55.360 And um, there are ten strains of salmonella not I mean, 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:58.280 besides just the bacteria, it's there's a lot of stuff 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:03.800 going on down there on your floor, most notably poopo. Yeah, 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:06.920 that's another thing to everywhere. But you should you should 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:11.400 take your shoes off. My wife is of Japanese ancestry, 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.520 and things I definitely picked up from hers, like you 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:15.360 take your shoes off when you come in the house, 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:17.280 so you just walk around without shoes on all the 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.200 all the time, or slippers or something. Yeah, because like, 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:23.080 especially if you're germ conscious, man, if you go into 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:26.240 a public bathroom and you walk out of there, you're 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.000 the bottom of your shoes are just like a nightmare. 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:31.160 You do want to track that all over your house 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.160 because you may find a cookie on your couch that 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.400 you want to eat. You have to plan for the 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:37.959 future basically, and that starts of taking your shoes off 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:39.480 in your house. For some reason, I don't think the 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:41.800 Japanese culture is rooted in the hopes that you'll find 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.040 a cookie on your floor and be able to eat it. No, 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.439 maybe not, but they are big into taking the shoes. 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:50.440 My friend Jason and in Tokyo that he is married 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:52.320 to a woman in Keiko, and years ago when we're 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:56.200 living in Athens, they started that tradition of removing your 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:57.760 shoes and he was like, hey, you mind, I was like, 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:01.240 of course not, watch this, what's it? Well? Sometimes they 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:04.840 will even provide like slippers and stuff for guests, Like 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:08.680 if you're in a Japanese home, so you're still wearing 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.800 shoes in there. But I get the point that I've 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.679 never left your house, so that's the deal. Yes, And 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:15.839 I don't like I'm old environment, You're all good. Yeah, 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:18.600 And I won't wear my slippers in the bathroom either. 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:21.760 I gotta tell you. I just got some new slippers. 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:24.960 What do you go barefoot in there? The bather socks 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.400 or whatever? Yeah, but like I don't want to burn 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:31.680 the socks I cut my feet off. I bought some 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:34.640 new slippers. Dude. I'm not usually wanted to plug things 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:36.680 on the air. But if you're a grown man and 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.040 you want some the best slippers you've ever had, and 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:43.280 you don't mind throwing down little cash men slippers, my friend, 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:46.120 what do you think I wear? I wonder if they're 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.959 the same ones. They are like little loafer sort of swede. 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:51.839 Mine don't have a back. They just have this soul 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:54.839 back and they had like the hard bottom. So you 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:56.800 can go out and get in the mail or if 0:10:56.840 --> 0:11:00.840 you're me, go to the grocery store. Man, so comfortable 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:05.880 and all the what is it uh or whatever? It's 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:09.400 not it's called sirpa lining. Oh is it? Yeah? The 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:14.240 sheep shear, that's what. That's what some people call it. 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:18.320 So cozy. Okay, so slippers. I need to start plugging 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:21.040 these things and giving them for free. I'm a sucker. 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.680 Always buy them and then plug them, right, But it's 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:27.719 not a sucker. Chuck here above the boards, okay, Um, 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:31.360 so back to it. Oh so the longer the stuff 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:34.800 stayed in contact the more the more it was the 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:38.760 more bacteria that came upon it. But surprisingly, what they 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:43.120 found was that the transfer was the least for carpet. 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.199 The type of surface that came in contact with made 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.000 a difference. I thought it was the most for carpet 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:52.239 was the least. It was the least transferred, but the 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:56.160 stuff survived in the carpet longer, so it all washed out. 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:58.959 So it made some difference, but not really whether it's wood, 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.800 tylor carpet, when you dropped something on it, there's going 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:05.199 to be a a lot of bacteria transfer. But this 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.880 stuff survives on these services. Carpet, you're kind of like, okay, yeah, 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.520 there's a lot to it. There's pile and you know, 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:14.760 there's some sort of Berber factor and all that. Um, 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.800 you can't forget the Berber factory, right. Uh So, of 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:19.640 course carpet, that's not much of surprised that there's a 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:22.760 lot of bacteria in there, but would or tile. Not 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.320 only did they find that, like the stuff can survive 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:29.240 for a while, it survives for up to a month 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.720 a month after they put the stuff on there, a 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:37.000 month later, there was still living bacteria enough for an 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:42.920 infectious dose on all three surfaces. D That's okay, I'm 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.760 becoming more of a drama fobe. And yeah, we're all 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:51.360 turning into David Putty right now. And remember he and 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:57.959 Peggy who called Elaine Suze Susie. They both turned out 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:02.080 to be germa phobes. They had like a little back acteria. Yeah. 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:07.880 Remember Cramer made a radish rose in his shower. He 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:10.720 had a garbage disposal in his shower so he could 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:14.280 bathe at the same time. It was that episode. Um so, 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:17.640 I know earlier you mentioned, um it's just kind of 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:19.920 off handedly said. You know, if it's something dry like 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.760 a cookie or that actually makes a difference. You found 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:28.240 out that moisture can be the key to more bacteria transfer. Um, 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:30.719 So a dry cookie versus a piece of like wet 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:36.800 bologna or salami or moist bologny. I said moist bologny, Um, 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.719 we'll have more bacteria. And that's why they say when 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:42.520 you go to the restroom and you wash your hands, 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:46.160 the drying is just as important, not more important, than 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:49.280 the watching. Yeah, they found that, um, this transfer bacteria 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:52.720 seems to be facilitated by moisture. Right, so when you 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:54.959 touch something with your wet hands, you're gonna get a 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:58.360 bunch of a bunch of bacteria transferred onto your hands. 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:00.360 If you wash your hands and then use one of 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:03.240 those hands free paper towels spencers and dry your hands, 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.440 you can touch that same surface that you would have 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.440 touched with your wet hands, and you're gonna have far 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.839 less bacteria transferred to it. Yeah, or nowadays the air 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.000 dryers in the bathroom. Have have you noticed in the 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:16.599 past few years or just like for fifty years it 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.200 was the same air dryer. Oh no, there's the accelerator. 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.600 Now there's the accelerator and the Dyson blade dryer. I 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:24.720 like the accelerator because the Dicon blade you have to 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:26.880 stick your hands down in there like that, and it's 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.920 almost like playing operation, like it's almost impossible not want 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.880 to touch the side, and then like, what's what does 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.280 anyone clean the bottom of those things? Like? I don't 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:38.320 think so. The accelerator, it's all just like blowing your 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.720 hands and you're you're done, and it's you cannot touch 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:45.400 things more. I like the accelerator because the the way 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:47.320 it makes your skin ripple, like the g forces is 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.600 pretty amazing, like we were in the indoor sky diving 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.880 through Yeah, exactly. And let's let's talk about hands real quick, chuck. 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:56.880 So there's a study that came out of the University 0:14:56.880 --> 0:15:00.440 of Colorado at Boulder and UM they found some really 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:04.720 surprising things using this technique called metagenomics where they take 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:08.040 a swab of like a sample off of your hands, 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.600 and then rather than doing culture, they do basically a 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:17.440 DNA profile for everything found in that swab. What they find, well, 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:23.840 they did fifty one participants. They found different bacteria species 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:29.440 across the fifty one participants. UM. And what what I 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:34.440 found was particularly interesting. They found that UM, only five 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:38.560 percent of these species were found in all fifty one participants. No, 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:42.400 five period not even percent. Oh yeah, five periods. So 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.880 out of all these species only when we're sharing. So 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:47.880 that means we there's just way more out there than 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.040 we thought, I guess huh. And it's just luck of 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:51.960 the draw as to what leaps to your hands, I 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:55.840 guess so. And not only your hands, but specific hands too. 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.400 They found that the right and left palms of a 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:03.880 single person share at only seventeen percent of the bacterial species, 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:09.040 so that means there's different species on different hands of 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:12.560 the same person. That's weird. And then women tend to 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:16.480 have a higher diversity of bacteria on their hands than men. 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:23.400 Not necessarily more uh bacteria total, but more diversity among species. Interesting. 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:25.920 So depending on which hand you shake, you're going to 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.920 be getting a different type of bacteria from someone. Yeah. 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.200 And if somebody like shakes your hands like, oh, it's 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:33.960 just water, I washed my hand, punch them in the 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:39.200 head because you're that's bacterial transfer. Jerk dry your hands. Yeah. 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.360 And uh and since you mentioned women, um, I think 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:45.760 the study by the Girl in two thousand three found 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:47.440 that women are more likely to eat something off the 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:51.080 floor than men, which surprised me. What surprised me is 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.720 where the person who wrote this article got that. I 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:56.680 couldn't find it anything. I saw that women were more 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.200 familiar with the concept of the five second rule, but 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:01.560 that not that they used it more. Yeah, you know what, 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:06.639 I'm gonna call that a dubious statement, then dubious indeed. Uh, okay, 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.840 so you've eaten something off of the floor, are we 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.600 get on hands? Yeah? Thanks for that, okay. I like 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:14.760 in the article they pointed out that out of the 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:18.399 fifty one participants, there were a hundred and two hands. Yeah, 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:20.280 this is like, all right, so good. You didn't have 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.600 any amputees in the study, right. What was funny is 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:24.880 I was I didn't think it added up, and then 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.399 I realized that's why I stopped for a second a 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:29.680 minute again. Um, all right, so you've picked up a 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.320 cookie off of the floor. It's dry, it's been down 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.720 there for three seconds, and you think, you know what, 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.240 I'm gonna roll the dice and eat it because my 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:40.720 stomach acids and the acids and my saliva is gonna 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:45.600 kill all this stuff factor fiction. That is fiction. That 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:48.520 is very much fiction. So says Uh, the germ guru 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:53.120 of the University of Arizona, go, what are the wildcats? 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.800 It's sun devils. There's the Arizona State. It's Arizona State, 0:17:55.800 --> 0:18:00.920 Arizona's wildcats. Cats go wildcats. Charles Gerba, his name almost 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:05.639 looks like germ yeah close or Gerber closer than Clark, 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:09.479 Like he's the adult version of the Gerber baby. So 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:13.840 he says that UH virus is actually UH survived the 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:15.760 low pH In fact, a lot of them like it, 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:19.879 and that pretty much any bacteria that you can infect 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.160 your intestine with is going to stay alive long enough 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:24.399 to get to your intestine, right, It's gonna survive that 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:27.520 that acidity in your stomach. Yeah, look, look look for 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.880 a podcast on digestion. That was a good one man. 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:33.840 That was great if you want to learn how that works. Um, 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:36.680 And it does make a difference on where it's landed, 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.760 like you said, Um, some floors are more dangerous than others. 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:44.000 In bathrooms are the worst place on earth. Yeah, and 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:47.600 kitchens actually, kitchens are the worst. There's supposedly dirtier than bathrooms. 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.360 It depends on the bathroom. But yeah. Gerba points out 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:53.080 that of all the shoes that he's ever analyzed, and 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:55.960 this guy like runs around on Good Morning America in 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:58.040 the Today Show and like analyze this stuff and just 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:04.080 freaks people out. It's like kind of his for his trade. Yeah. Uh, 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:07.840 he said that the fecal matter appears on about of 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:10.400 the shoes he's ever analyzed. Of course it does. Yeah, 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:14.000 like I said, there's poop everywhere, poop everywhere, especially in 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:18.400 my house. So uh yeah, you'd think of public restrooms 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:21.800 pretty bad, and it is, but it depends on what 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.560 part of the public restroom you're talking about, and sometimes 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:28.359 compared to other places that it doesn't hold a candle. 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:33.160 There's some surprising germ statistics that were about to unleash 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:36.440 on you. Let's start with uh, let's just jump all over. 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.679 Then I got the kitchen floor. UM, the area on 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:41.400 the kitchen floor just in front of your sink. We're 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:44.000 gonna be doing your dishes and dropping food and poop. 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:48.960 UM has more bacteria than your trash can square inch 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:54.560 as opposed to four eleven, So double um and your 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:56.960 kitchen sponge. I know everyone knows that that's a really 0:19:57.000 --> 0:20:00.879 filthy thing to have. You remember that one serry but filthy. 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:04.119 Remember the I think the Chlorox wipes or Lightsol wipes 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:06.320 commercial where the lady was using a sponge or like, 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:07.879 if you're using a sponge, you might as we'll be 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:09.880 doing this and she was just rubbing like a raw 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:12.280 chicken breast on her counter like it was a sponge. 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:15.879 That's basically true, though, It's like you you should be 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:17.959 really careful with your sponge, what you clean with it, 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:21.560 what you don't clean with it, um, the letting it 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:25.200 dry out, changing it like regularly, like if you've got 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:28.280 a two month old kitchen sponge and you're using that 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:30.720 to wipe your counter. You were spreading bacteria all over 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:33.080 the blaze. You don't love your family, so you can 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:34.600 use it at first. This is what I do, because 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:37.600 I'm a clean guy. My wife is not. I will 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:40.800 clean up after her with a sponge, and then I'll 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:44.080 go back with my organic spray and then do the 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:47.600 paper towel wipe after that. That's the final step in 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:50.760 the process. As always. The dry paper towel with my 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:54.439 seventh seven stuff is what I used. And then a 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:59.080 little bit of lighter fluid yep, sterilized the counter. All right, 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:02.320 So you're kitchen floor is dirtier than your trash can. 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:06.880 Your sponge holds sixty times more bacteria than your pet 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:10.239 food bowl, even though pet food bowls are pretty gross too, 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:14.240 supposedly because you don't claim out as much. And all 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:19.200 of this is germier than a toilet seat. Yeah, you 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:21.600 always hear that, the old toilet seat. Yeah, And I 0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:25.440 think the reason why the toilet seat is surprisingly cleaner 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:29.960 in comparison, or or surprisingly germ free compared to other 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:32.719 things like your kitchen sink and all that is because 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:36.560 people clean the toilet seat more frequently because they think 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:38.760 of it as a dirty place. And this is kind 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:41.280 of borne out in another study that Gerba carried out 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:44.080 on behalf of the Chlorox Corporation, who make lights all 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:47.400 wipes UM, and he found that one of the dirtiest 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:52.240 places in the universe is a person's desk. And he 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:56.280 found that UM apparently the average desk has a hundred 0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:58.800 times more bacteria than a kitchen table and four hundred 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:02.600 times more bacteria than the average toilet. And one of 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:04.640 the reasons is because people don't ever wipe this down. 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:07.320 So he did the study where he divided workers into 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:11.919 two groups. One group used the sanitizing wipes once or 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:14.600 twice a day, and then the other group didn't, and 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:16.680 after two days there was a ninety nine point nine 0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:19.280 percent reduction in bacteria on the desk of the people 0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:22.280 who are using the wipe. So wiping down your telephone, handset, 0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:26.200 your dead mouse is a big one keyboard apparently, where 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:29.679