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Speaker 1: Brought to you by the two thousand twelve Toyota Camry.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to you stuff you should know from house Stuff

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Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Josh Clark, Charles W. Chuck Bryant's consulting his note, he's

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Speaker 1: wearing his glasses. Everybody's getting ready to podcast. So that

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Speaker 1: means just the stuff, you know, stretching, doing my yoga.

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Speaker 1: You just pet for the fourth time in the last hour,

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Speaker 1: got more coffee and you think a lot of coffee.

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Speaker 1: Well that was exciting. Yeah, And while I was getting coffee,

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Speaker 1: I was like, I used my elbow to press the

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Speaker 1: buttons to make coffee. Are you doing that now? Um?

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Speaker 1: I have become I'm trying to think back to what

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Speaker 1: initiated it, but I've definitely become far more germ conscious.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a germophobe because I can just be like,

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Speaker 1: oh god, you know that's fine. You your fingers touched

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Speaker 1: your mouth, Stop simpering, right, Like I can get ahold

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Speaker 1: of myself like that. But at the same time, you

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Speaker 1: know what it is. It was that it was flesh

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Speaker 1: eating bacteria when it was going around Georgia for a

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Speaker 1: little while, and then simultaneously like being aware that, like

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Speaker 1: the gym is lousy with germs, and I think that

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Speaker 1: that did a one two number on me, and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, I'm just very I'm very aware of

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Speaker 1: what I touch. I'm not super germ conscious. I have

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Speaker 1: been more so though, since we've started learning more about

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Speaker 1: this crap um. But we have a mutual friend whose

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Speaker 1: girlfriend won't even keep her toothbrush in the bathroom. Oh really,

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Speaker 1: she said, why would I among the fecal air? Why

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Speaker 1: would I keep my toothbrush in the bathroom? Makes sense?

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Speaker 1: And uh, she knows who she is. I don't know

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Speaker 1: who she is. I'll tell you after. Um, so you're

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Speaker 1: kind of you're okay with it, You're okay with the

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Speaker 1: idea of germs. I mean, there is this whole there's

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Speaker 1: this whole thing called the hygiene hypothesis, which makes uttering

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Speaker 1: complete sense to me that if you're allow more germs

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Speaker 1: and you'll just learn to fight them and have more

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Speaker 1: robust immune systems. Yes, especially growing up as a child

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Speaker 1: and the children who develop allergies, it's because they are

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Speaker 1: raised in a sterile lisol environment. My environment was a filthy,

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Speaker 1: dirty and and so when they finally get out into

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Speaker 1: this very filthy, dirty world e g um preschool. They are,

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Speaker 1: they don't have any anybodies built up for it. It

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Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. I don't know that there's

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Speaker 1: any hard science that backs it up, but I don't

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Speaker 1: know that it's ever been disproven. But it's called the

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Speaker 1: hygiene hypothesis. It appeals to me. It apeels to me.

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Speaker 1: I I don't have allergies. I don't get sick that much. No,

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Speaker 1: and I'm unhealthy as it gets. I wouldn't call you that. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm in the middle. Yes, I appreciate that. Okay, I guess. Really,

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Speaker 1: the division line between a germophobe in a non germophobe

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Speaker 1: would probably be found somewhere in the five second rule

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Speaker 1: when don't you think? Sure? So, like if I dropped something,

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Speaker 1: depending on what it was and where I dropped it,

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Speaker 1: I would possibly eat it. There's a there's a comedian

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Speaker 1: And he's saying that, Yeah, it means Noah black Garden,

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Speaker 1: I think and uh. He was saying that, Um, the

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Speaker 1: five second role is basically exists on a sliding scale,

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Speaker 1: Like if it's a piece of broccoli, it's like a

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Speaker 1: zero second. If it's like a cheeto, it's like a

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Speaker 1: whenever I find it rule. Whenever I find it, pick

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Speaker 1: it up and eat it. Role Um. He does it

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Speaker 1: way better than me. But he had a great observation

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Speaker 1: about the five second rule. The point is for me,

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Speaker 1: it depends on what it is where it is, not

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Speaker 1: if it's because there's so long and it's under the

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Speaker 1: I won't eat it. No, no, no, you wouldn't eat

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Speaker 1: anything that you didn't recently drop, would you. If you

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Speaker 1: just found a cookie on the floor, you would eat it. Again,

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Speaker 1: it depends on where where it was found. Like some

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Speaker 1: places seem far cleaner to me than others, like mine

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Speaker 1: if it was like a little bit sweets, Um the King,

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Speaker 1: Bit Sweets and it says specifically on their website that

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Speaker 1: that's in honor of us. Thank you listen jin Um. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So I feel like we've gone in depth on what

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Speaker 1: Like if you if you are an adherent to the

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Speaker 1: I only eat stuff that's been on the floor for

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Speaker 1: five seconds or less. Are you full of it. Well,

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Speaker 1: There's a high school student, uh in two thousand three,

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Speaker 1: Jillian Clark and um she was doing her internship at

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Speaker 1: five second rule. And she coated, um, these tiles with E. Coli,

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Speaker 1: and then studied what kind of bacteria picked up. And

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Speaker 1: bacteria did jump onto the food within five seconds. What

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Speaker 1: five seconds are under is important. Like it's usually not

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Speaker 1: Public Health for her efforts. Yeah. Um, and so she

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Speaker 1: And then about four years later, some Clemson University researchers

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Speaker 1: Clark's work. Tigers. Yeah, I mean, we gotta say it.

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Speaker 1: all right, So what did they found out? They found out, Well,

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Speaker 1: if you thought that the same thing, right, if you

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Speaker 1: thought the E. Coli bacteria and the tiles was gross,

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Speaker 1: I know where you're going. These guys created a broth

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Speaker 1: of sam and ella. They call it samuela soup, which

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Speaker 1: is so nasty. Yeah. And they they applied it to

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Speaker 1: But what if what doesn't it depend on the kind

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Speaker 1: they were at Clemson. Um, they applied to salmonella soup

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Speaker 1: to tile, wood surface and carpet, right, and then they

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Speaker 1: started dropping bread and bologny on it. Good choice, why not? Um?

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Speaker 1: And they they found what Clark found that in less

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Speaker 1: there was a bacterial transfer. Yeah, between a hundred and

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Speaker 1: And um, there are ten strains of salmonella not I mean,

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Speaker 1: besides just the bacteria, it's there's a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: that's another thing to everywhere. But you should you should

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Speaker 1: take your shoes off. My wife is of Japanese ancestry,

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Speaker 1: and things I definitely picked up from hers, like you

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Speaker 1: You do want to track that all over your house

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Speaker 1: maybe not, but they are big into taking the shoes.

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Speaker 1: to a woman in Keiko, and years ago when we're

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Speaker 1: of course not, watch this, what's it? Well? Sometimes they

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Speaker 1: will even provide like slippers and stuff for guests, Like

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Speaker 1: And I won't wear my slippers in the bathroom either.

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Speaker 1: What do you go barefoot in there? The bather socks

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Speaker 1: or whatever? Yeah, but like I don't want to burn

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Speaker 1: the socks I cut my feet off. I bought some

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Speaker 1: new slippers. Dude. I'm not usually wanted to plug things

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Speaker 1: you don't mind throwing down little cash men slippers, my friend,

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Speaker 1: what do you think I wear? I wonder if they're

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Speaker 1: the same ones. They are like little loafer sort of swede.

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Speaker 1: back and they had like the hard bottom. So you

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Speaker 1: you're me, go to the grocery store. Man, so comfortable

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Speaker 1: and all the what is it uh or whatever? It's

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Speaker 1: not it's called sirpa lining. Oh is it? Yeah? The

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Speaker 1: sheep shear, that's what. That's what some people call it.

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Speaker 1: So cozy. Okay, so slippers. I need to start plugging

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Speaker 1: these things and giving them for free. I'm a sucker.

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Speaker 1: Always buy them and then plug them, right, But it's

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Speaker 1: not a sucker. Chuck here above the boards, okay, Um,

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Speaker 1: so back to it. Oh so the longer the stuff

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Speaker 1: more bacteria that came upon it. But surprisingly, what they

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Speaker 1: It's for me a hundred times germany or than a

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Speaker 1: kitchen table and four hundred again four hundred times Germany,

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Speaker 1: or than a toilet seat and presentee is um, which

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Speaker 1: is a big problem. Uh of workers, I'm sorry. One

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Speaker 1: third of workers that's not sev it's close reported to

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Speaker 1: the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases that they felt like

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Speaker 1: they were obligated to go to work even when they

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Speaker 1: were sick. Yeah, that's it's a problem. It's not okay.

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Speaker 1: And I know around here, especially Tracy Are she takes

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Speaker 1: it pretty serious. She's like she gets piste off on

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Speaker 1: people in here. Ye. Yeah, she'll say, if you're sick,

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Speaker 1: please stay home, um, because the office is dirty, your

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Speaker 1: bathrooms dirty, your kitchen's dirty. That cutting board that you're

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Speaker 1: cutting your vegetables on filthy. Yeah, it's all dirty, it's

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Speaker 1: all gross. Well, I can't remember. I was trying to

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Speaker 1: think of what episode biofilm came up. You were telling

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Speaker 1: everybody about biofilm. Oh, yeah, what was that? I can't

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Speaker 1: for the life of me remember. But um, that's how

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Speaker 1: bacteria survive. That's how they can survive on stainless steel.

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Speaker 1: That's how the it can survive on wood, on tile,

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Speaker 1: keep bacteria from thriving. These things can survive because they

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Speaker 1: live in biofilm. It's this protective um film on any surface.

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Speaker 1: And if the surface has grooves or things like that

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Speaker 1: that where a biofilm can hide, there's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: lot more bacteria. And cutting board apparently is one of

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Speaker 1: which I prefer me too clean and well though, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like shards of plastic, you know. Yeah, that's a good point. Um,

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Speaker 1: So before you freak out and jump in a pool

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Speaker 1: of pure l most of these germs are benign. Like

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Speaker 1: just been one little bacteria that got through. And all

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Speaker 1: bottom of a woman's purse randomly, uh, Gerba again just

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Speaker 1: ran up to some people. He's like, let me test

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Speaker 1: your purse, and he found UM from the hundreds to

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Speaker 1: six point seven million on the bottom of one woman's purse.

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Speaker 1: And he didn't say that that also had like pieces

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Speaker 1: think that was one. That's a good thing to go

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Speaker 1: out on. Took you to good bye, reassuring everybody that

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Speaker 1: probably okay as far as these bacteria go. Don't keep

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Speaker 1: your toothbrush in your bathroom, so says our friend's girlfriend. UM,

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Speaker 1: let's see before we say anything like listener mail or

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Speaker 1: go find this article. I want to do a quick

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Speaker 1: shout out. Okay, do it. Our Chiva team Chuck recently

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Speaker 1: hit a very significant milestone one point five million dollars

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Speaker 1: in loans. Wow, that's enormous. Say it? Oh yeah, Kiva

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Speaker 1: Kiva dot organs a micro lending site where you can

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Speaker 1: make loans and little twenty five dollar increments to people

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Speaker 1: in the developing world to use for entrepreneurship. To um

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Speaker 1: have their taxi license, to buy oxen, to retail clothes,

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Speaker 1: what have you, um farming whatever, and um our Chiva

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Speaker 1: team has doled out one point five million in these

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Speaker 1: twenty five dollar loans. That's just such an amazing accomplishment.

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Speaker 1: When we started this, we had no idea that it

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Speaker 1: was gonna have legs like this. Yeah, and I mean

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Speaker 1: we're gonna keep it going perpetuity, so we are. One

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Speaker 1: of the reasons I wanted to shout out is because

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Speaker 1: we are resetting our goals. We're setting our goal to

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Speaker 1: two million dollars by the summer solstice June one. It's

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Speaker 1: an international date, right um and Glenn, the team leader

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Speaker 1: a sound idea. Yeah, thank you to Glenn and Sonia

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Speaker 1: as always. So we're going to UH two million by

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Speaker 1: June twenty one. And if you want to join us

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Speaker 1: how stuff works dot com, I said search bar. So

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Speaker 1: it's time for listener mails it is Josh. Uh, this

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Speaker 1: is we are just a few days away from our

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Speaker 1: TV show premiere. That when we would be remiss. I

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Speaker 1: know you're probably tired of hearing about it by now,

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Speaker 1: I'm not We would be remiss if we didn't remind

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Speaker 1: everyone that on Saturday night at ten pm Eastern on

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Speaker 1: You Should Know, back to back, the premiere episode two

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Speaker 1: following the season premiere of Ricky Gervais's Idiot Abroad. Yeah

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Speaker 1: Um and uh we think we think you're gonna like it.

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Speaker 1: It's uh us and we play ourselves, but it's setting

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Speaker 1: This is from Ben. Uh. Guys, my name has been

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Speaker 1: I'm a thirty year old husband and father. Never consider

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Speaker 1: Uh not because of lack of trying, but because being

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Speaker 1: awkward to be honest. My wife has talked me into

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Speaker 1: name him Radin after Mortal Kombat. Uh. And then I

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Speaker 1: Thank you? So thanks Ben. Um. If you want to

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Speaker 1: how about this. We want to know the nastiest thing

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Speaker 1: you've ever eaten, whether it was something that was prepared,

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