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Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, Paul Calbasi joins me,

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Speaker 1: he was there. He was at Allegian Stadium for maybe

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Speaker 1: the most improbable win in recent memory and maybe all

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Speaker 1: of Cardinals team history. We get Paul's point of view.

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Speaker 1: There were two games played on Sunday, the first half

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Speaker 1: and then the second half and overtime. It's Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: Episode five ninety two, and it starts now. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two. Hitting the backfield and down he goes

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Speaker 1: for a loss. J J. Watt nailed it. Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: two is presented by Hun Day, proud partner of the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit acy Cardinals

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Speaker 1: dot com, Slash podcasts. He's at the ten half of five.

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Speaker 1: He's in again. So for Harry Magic, whoa, here's Craig

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Speaker 1: Grielou all right, just too much to get into. Paul

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Speaker 1: got no time for pleasure and trees were just gonna

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Speaker 1: dive right in. Unless there's unless there's something that did

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Speaker 1: happen in Vegas that must not stay in Vegas that

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Speaker 1: you do feel compelled to detail. Well, you know, you

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Speaker 1: feel like you went to Vegas and you saw a show.

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Speaker 1: You know, Ron Wolfley likes to ring the Warrior Queen.

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Speaker 1: They go to Vegas, you know, they see a show.

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Speaker 1: You just saw a show. Whether it was a magic

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Speaker 1: act by Kyler Murray, whether it was a certified drama, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, but it was. It was definitely a show.

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Speaker 1: Intermission was the turning point of the show. We'll get

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Speaker 1: into that a little bit. But you know, I feel

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Speaker 1: like screaming out Russell Crowe. You know, are you not entertained?

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Speaker 1: Are you not entertained? Craig griglu I was, except it

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Speaker 1: was not put it this way as I watched the

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Speaker 1: game because I don't have the point of view from

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Speaker 1: the sidelines, you know, on the road, don't travel, which

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Speaker 1: which is fine. You know. I hang out with you know,

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Speaker 1: Rob Frederickson, Covn and Boss Drustan and on Sunday it

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Speaker 1: was myself and Drew in studio. So full disclosure, Bird Gang.

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Speaker 1: There is about a I don't know ten twelve fifteen

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Speaker 1: second delay between what I listened to, which is Dave

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Speaker 1: past Ron Wilfley and yours truly PAULKALBC versus what I

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Speaker 1: Sometimes that's good, sometimes it's bad. On Sunday it was

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Speaker 1: on the first half, it was very, very bad. That

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Speaker 1: could have been the worst two quarters from offensive and

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Speaker 1: when the Cardinals punted on their first possession, Drew and

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Speaker 1: I might have had a conversation. It's like, Okay, what

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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, to your point, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and play. Well. You know, halftime is interesting because all right,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals leave the field and it was not pretty.

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Speaker 1: It was twenty to nothing in the first half. The

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Speaker 1: when they had their first touchdown drive, they actually had

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Speaker 1: It was not good. It was not good on any level.

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Speaker 1: But Cliff Kingsbury was fairly calm coming off the field.

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Speaker 1: It's when they came back onto the field out of

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Speaker 1: I think a couple of things happen. Obviously Kyler Murray happened.

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Speaker 1: But you know when when Max Crosby repeatedly got chipped

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Speaker 1: you look at the NFC West, every team is one

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Speaker 1: That was the first time I could legitimately say this

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Speaker 1: Joseph doesn't like having a traveling corner, you kind of

430
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 1: play wherever the player is to your side of the field.

431
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 1: Davante Adams was not targeted at all in the second half.

432
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 1: Not realize that is that Byron Murphy, Marco Wilson, Jace

433
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 1: Whittaker played a lot forty five defensive snaps on Sunday,

434
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: so they had three cornerbacks as opposed to a week earlier,

435
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 1: it was just Murphy and Wilson. Jase Whittaker stepped up

436
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 1: and showed the Cardinals defensive coaches something. So Byron Murphy

437
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 1: makes the big play at the end of the ball game,

438
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: but I think his better plays, more important plays, was

439
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 1: holding Devanti Adams basically nonexistent. Yeah, remember when Nick vigil

440
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: said going into this game, and it may be in

441
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: the most poignant quote of the week when he said,

442
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,479
Speaker 1: to even have a chance in this league, everybody has

443
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: to be on the same page. Communication errors cost us

444
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: in the opener, and there's no doubt about it. When

445
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 1: you had that many alignment and assignment errors in the

446
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: opener against Kansas City, it was just way too easy

447
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 1: for Patrick Mahomes. I'm not saying the Cardinals if they

448
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 1: would have been a sound defense, would have beaten Patrick Mahomes,

449
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 1: but it was way too easy. In Cliff Kingsbury told

450
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: us that on his TV show as well. So, you

451
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: know what, you send a message. You send a message

452
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: not only to Isaiah Simmons by benching him from the

453
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: majority of the game, you send a message to the

454
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: locker room. Do your job or you won't have a job.

455
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 1: And honestly agree, we know this in the NFL and

456
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: pro sports. It's the only true, genuine way to motivate.

457
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 1: The raw ross stuff doesn't work. Motivational sayings and no

458
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: job security is the old true motivator in the NFL.

459
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 1: So when all of a sudden you find yourself on

460
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: the bench and you start thinking, oh, well, wait a minute,

461
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: I was, I'm open the next year or so to

462
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: get that second contract, not if you don't play better,

463
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 1: not if you don't make sure you're sounding the playbook.

464
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: And so I think that sent a big message to everyone.

465
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 1: When Jas Whittaker performed early and he got more snaps,

466
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: you know, I thought played really well. Was Zach Allen

467
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: game oh so close to a couple of sacks at least,

468
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 1: but man, did he play well? Talking about draft picks,

469
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 1: So I thought performer Richard Lawrence that get off. Oh

470
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: my goodness, he was in the backfield a number of times.

471
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: I'd love to know how Richard Lawrence and Zach Allen

472
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 1: created out jj WATD was on a bit of a

473
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 1: pitch count. But obviously at the sack early you go

474
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 1: into any sort of bar fight with a jj WAT,

475
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: you just feel tougher or you just have that sort

476
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: of confidence. So I thought the interior D line played

477
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: pretty well. Yes, Josh Jacobs broke a few runs really,

478
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: but I'm guessing that was more maybe on Zavin Collins

479
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: and Nick Vigil and Tanner Vallejo not fitting the gap.

480
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: We'll see how that grades out, you know, honestly, you

481
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: talk about the defense, I think the big question mark

482
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: right now if you're Steve Kim, isn't as much corner,

483
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: especially if trayvon Mullen is coming. I think it's the

484
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: edge rush. And because Zach Allen, JJ Watt, Rochard Lawrence

485
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: and company I think are good enough in the interior

486
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: D line, what do you have outside them is the

487
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: big question right now? All right, we talked about one

488
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 1: man can make a difference offensively, justin Pugh. Let's flip

489
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: it to the defense ninety nine being on the football field.

490
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Speaker 1: You brought this up in the offseason talking about the

491
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: key to the defense is a healthy JJ Watt for

492
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: all seventeen games his return. Maybe he's not the JJ

493
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: Watt three time Defensive Player of the Year, but it

494
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You have to know where number ninety nine

495
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: is and you have to keep an eye on him

496
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 1: and account for him. Does that open up now, Zach Allen?

497
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: To your point, your advantage point, have a better game,

498
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: Richard Lawrence getting that tackle for loss, keeping those offensive

499
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: lineman of a Zavian Collins, a Nick vigil At Tanner Vallejo.

500
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: Because JJ Watt's on the football field, that might be

501
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: something now, and the stat book you might not see

502
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: a whole lot from a jj Watt, but it's his

503
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: presence that means so much to the other ten players

504
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: on the football field. And to your point, the extra

505
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: attention he commands, and how does that trickle down to

506
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 1: everyone else in their production? Because Josh mcdannel going into

507
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: last week's games, how many times did he name names?

508
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: He said, Oh, their quarterbacks a problem. We got to

509
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: worry about the quarterback. You know, they have a Hall

510
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: of Famer on the d line ninety nine jj Watt.

511
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,959
Speaker 1: He cited jj Watt a number of times, Josh McDaniels

512
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: as their offensive coordinator and head coach, so you know

513
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: that there was extra attention paid to ninety nine, and

514
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: then that trickles down through everyone else. There's just also

515
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: a vibe that JJ Watt gives, especially on game day

516
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 1: when he comes down to the team bus and I

517
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: witness this and he's in the meal room for breakfast

518
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: and the team bus and he's got the nick cap

519
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 1: pulled down, he's got the headphones on, and he's got

520
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: the Aviator sunglasses and he's mean mug and everyone doesn't

521
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: say a word. Just got this mean mug look with

522
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: the sunglasses on, and he's in the meal room and

523
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 1: he's eating all by himself. Does it. He's one of

524
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: the most popular guys in that room, but he's eating

525
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: by himself, and it just says, Okay, this is game day.

526
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: Is this is a different mentality today When he gets

527
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: off the bus and he's got that same look when

528
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: he takes the field for warm ups, it's just he

529
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 1: sets a tone that I'm not sure was there in

530
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: week one. But when he's in uniform and realize, okay,

531
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: you know what, Um, I gotta go into savage mode.

532
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: I gotta go into you know, the old Marshawn Lynch

533
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: beast mode. That's the mentality, and it just it's just

534
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 1: something to me that I think, Um, you know, now,

535
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: can you say, Okay, the defense didn't come out and

536
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: didn't look all that great, sure, but that had nothing

537
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: to do with JJ Watt and that in that front

538
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: defensive line. It's just something that he sets a tone

539
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: and you just feel that much more confident when you

540
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: go in, so he can stay healthy and you can

541
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: keep that d line rotation and keep those fresh legs

542
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: among those guys. I think the Cardinals are set at

543
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: that position. It's to me, once again, it comes down

544
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: to the edge. If there's anyone out there who's willing

545
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: to come in Alli, John Abraham, Dwight Freeney. I don't

546
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: know if that exists, but I could see that is

547
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: the most likely addition right now to this roster. JJ

548
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: Watt finished with two tackles, a sack of tackle for loss,

549
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: a quarterback hit, and a pass defense. Now that pass

550
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: defense came on third downs, forcing the Raiders to punt

551
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: the ball to allow once again, Kyler Murray to get

552
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 1: back on the football field. It goes you can talk

553
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: about complimentary football. That's what happened on Sunday. Kyle Murray

554
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 1: can't do what he does and be the hero if

555
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: the defense doesn't get their stops, If the defense doesn't

556
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: get their stops, and Kyle Murray can't be the hero

557
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 1: and the number one story maybe in Arizona, maybe across

558
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: the National Football League based off what he was able

559
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: to do. So I keep going back to the defense,

560
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: and you just hope, Paul, that would ever triggered, whether

561
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: it was the halftime locker room speech, and hopefully we

562
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: get a little bit more inside on what was said

563
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: player versus coach, and then seeing what happens moving forward,

564
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 1: specifically with Isaiah Simmons because he is a part of

565
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: this defense. But now you hope that the message was

566
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 1: received and instead of standing on the sideline because just

567
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: watching him, there was no emotional reaction whatsoever from Isaiah

568
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 1: Simmons when the camera's pan toward him, he was stone faced, Paul.

569
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: He was even stone faced at the end of the

570
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: game during the celebration walking off the field. So I

571
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: don't know if he was trying to himself send a

572
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: message say look what I can do when I'm on

573
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: the field, or if a message was received by him saying, Okay,

574
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: I need to put the work in Monday through Saturday

575
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: in order to play on Sunday. And you know what,

576
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: I was standing at his locker when he met the

577
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: media after the game, and there was some point in

578
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: questions like when did you know you were going to

579
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,479
Speaker 1: be benched? Somebody asked it basically in those words, there

580
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: were some pretty sobering, pointed questions, and he answered that

581
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: he wasn't really aware during the week that he wasn't

582
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: going to have, you know, much of a role. And so,

583
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: you know, whether that's accurate or not, I'm not sure.

584
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: He must have known that he wasn't gonna be wearing

585
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: the green dots. So after one week and then you know,

586
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: after being anointed and appointed in the off season and

587
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: in August when Vance Joseph met the media that lone

588
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,959
Speaker 1: time and he called him the starbacker and called him

589
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: a star in the making, you know. So, so for

590
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: the wake up call that was received at least at

591
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: Corney and Cliff Kingsbury in Game one, against Kansas City.

592
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: I think Game two provided a wake up call for

593
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons. Now, is this going to be akin to

594
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: his rookie year? Or he had the big interception in

595
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: overtime against Russell Wilson and then still didn't fig factor

596
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: in and figure into playing a massive role the rest

597
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: of the way his rookie year. So is this gonna

598
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: be a one off? Is this gonna be a blip,

599
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: or is this gonna be you know, something that really

600
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: initiates permanent change on the part of Isaiah Simmons because

601
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: he's just too athletic to keep off the field. And

602
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: you saw it in overtime when he jacked his former

603
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: teammate Hunter Renfro the guy he said, who looks like

604
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: your average dad, and he comes in with such force

605
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: and velocity. So I think the problem is what's his role?

606
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: Is he truly a cover safety, a cover linebacker downfield?

607
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: You know, Adrian Wilson is an All timer for the

608
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: Cardinals and a five time Pro Bowler, but down the

609
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: field and coverage was not his forte. So does Isaiah

610
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: Simmons fit into that same scoutter report? How do you

611
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: use him? How do you unleash his talents within this defense.

612
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: I think that's the struggle is trying to define where

613
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: does he play, what sort of role does he play

614
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: in what situations? And I don't think if Vance Joseph

615
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: was in the trust try he could definitively answer that. Yet,

616
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: Simmons can be a problem solver, but he needs to

617
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: figure out And it goes back to what Cliff was

618
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: talking about practice habits, and we were all kind of

619
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: left wondering practice habits. Could that have been an indirect

620
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: message to one particular player, maybe a handful, but one

621
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: particular player, Isaiah Simmons, you can be the greatest Sunday player,

622
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: but you have not arrived yet. You need to practice

623
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: and do it Wednesday, Thursday and Friday for us to

624
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: give you an opportunity on Sunday. So I'll give the

625
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: coaching staff credit because you're talking about a former first

626
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: round draft pick, and sometimes front office versus coaching staff,

627
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: there's what the front office sees big picture in the

628
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: coaches say, you know what, I can't see a big picture.

629
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: I can't see past this week. I need to win

630
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: otherwise I'm out the door. You guys are still here. Yeah,

631
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: he might be taking top ten overall, but he's a

632
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: liability right now. And that's what happened in the Kansas

633
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: City game. Look the horse way, too much chaos on

634
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: defense in the Kansas City game. You know what front

635
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: are we in? What's the call? Wait a minute, who's

636
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: making the adjustment? Mahomes is sending all these guys in motion.

637
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: You heard Kyle Vanabosh talk about it. We're not sound

638
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: in our alignment and our assignments, and so it hadn't happened.

639
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: It had to be changed out. You need improvement. And

640
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: it's the second guy in two months. You know, Marco

641
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: Wilson went in his EB two and we all know

642
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: his middle name became the jury is still out. He

643
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: was called out by the head coach. No Clifton trash him,

644
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: as he joked with the media. You guys made it

645
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: sound like I trashed him. No, he didn't trash him bad.

646
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: He did hold him accountable in front of the media,

647
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: and he did put Antonio Hamilton ahead of Marco Wilson,

648
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: which was unthinkable going into camp. You thought, without question,

649
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: as thin as the Cardinals were in the cornerback room,

650
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: it was Buyer Murphy and Marco Wilson. How's the rest

651
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: of the No, Marco Wilson lost that job doing Antonio

652
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: Hamilton before he had, you know, the disappointing accident at home,

653
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: the freak accident. So and by the way, Antonio Hamilton,

654
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: you know, was on the trip and he was walking

655
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: around in sneakers, So that's good news. You know. Now

656
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 1: he still has to sit out the mandatory four games, right,

657
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 1: two more weeks, two more to go. So look, if

658
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: you can just keep you know, your head above water

659
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: and get to three and three. I mean, they need

660
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins back this receiving, especially the way it's banged

661
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: up right now. You know, Antoine wesley An, Isabella no

662
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: Rondel more. So you know they need de hop back.

663
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: What is that going to mean for everyone else? So

664
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Speaker 1: to be the jj wad effect, I think it's going

665
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: to trickle down, make everyone else that much more productive.

666
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: Antonio Hamilton comes back if he can regain that form

667
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Speaker 1: that we saw in August, you know, all of a sudden,

668
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: you're you know, you're looking a lot stronger and and great.

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Speaker 1: This is just this is me with a wild speculation.

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00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: But we saw this team ease into the regular season

671
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of it has to do

672
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: with an offseason where all they heard about was oh,

673
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: you guys peak too early. So now it's a team

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Speaker 1: that I think maybe his pacing itself a little bit

675
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Speaker 1: more now when the urgency was there and you saw

676
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: him flip the switch in that second half and especially

677
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Speaker 1: midway through the third quarter, and there was a different

678
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: team the rest of the way, all the way through overtime. Okay,

679
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: are you going to see that team now permanently? I'm

680
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: not sure. I don't know. I wish I had the

681
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: answer that I'm not sure even the coaches know. But

682
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: I do expect to see that team by the time

683
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: Hard Knock shows up. I really do. Not that it

684
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: has anything to do with a camera. Is just the

685
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: time of season. I think there's a lot of veterans

686
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: in there, a hell ben on Okay, Okay, you know

687
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: at the second half of the season is and so

688
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: we'll see how this tracks and trends, and Harknocks will

689
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: be there to document at all. They were all over

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00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: the sideline yesterday, all over the sideline yesterday with all

691
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: the boom mics and the audio recording equipment and everything else.

692
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: They had multiple cameras covering that game. They got all

693
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: of a show at the end, did they not. I

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00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: have no worries or no issues I should say with

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Speaker 1: easing into the season, but just this little caveat, Can

696
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: we not ease into a game in which you've been

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00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: outscored forty three to seven in the first halves of

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Speaker 1: these first two weeks. Can we can we at least

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Speaker 1: make it a little bit more to your point entertaining

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Speaker 1: those first thirty minutes you want to ease in. Okay,

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00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: I'll jump aboard that, just to see how we finished

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00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: this twenty twenty two regular season. But give us a

703
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: little nugget, a little, a little taste here in the

704
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: first and second quarters, just this one I'm asking for, Paul. Yeah,

705
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: And so look um, the team is capable. They just

706
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: showed that, they showed what they're capable of, and so

707
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: now hopefully they reminded themselves what it takes, the sort

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00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: of commitment, the sort of effort in intensity, the sort

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00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: of edge that it takes. And I loved watching Darryl

710
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: Williams run the ball man. He was a force once again.

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00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: He usually don't see that out of a running back

712
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: wearing number twenty four right, sorry, Speaking of former twenty fours,

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00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: how about Adrian Wilson running down the sideline in his suit,

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00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: you know, and then he went into the tunnel from

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00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: what I could tell as opposed to the Hail Larry

716
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 1: right where Larry came down, you know, and the Green

717
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: Bay playoff game, and then Adrian Wilson pretty much mugged

718
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: him in the in the end zone after the shovel

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00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: passed to win it. But yeah, there were there were

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00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: guys who when they got their chance, they took advantage

721
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: of it. And once again that is motivating to other players,

722
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: are like, oh, wait a minute, look at Daryl Williams

723
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: is playing. Look at that ferocity He's going after Max

724
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: Crosby with wow. Interesting, you know, eno Benjamin stoking it,

725
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: other guys playing with a little bit of nasty to him.

726
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: And then of course Buddha, Baker and Jalen Thompson just

727
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: flying around everywhere. And I'd tell you Buddha was hyped

728
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: before the game. I came down out of the pregame booth,

729
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: I started asking around people who kind of shoot the

730
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: entire pregame and they're like, Buddha's out of his mind.

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00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: Bo Boodh is ready to play, and I thought he

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Speaker 1: I don't know what his numbers were, Buddha Baker, I

733
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: have no Once again, I'm just I'm not even looking

734
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: at the stats, and this one, I just you know,

735
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: it was just it was a matter of a team

736
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 1: just getting that energy and urgency and then playing ball.

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00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: But Buddha was amped up the entirety of the game.

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00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: Guys were feeding off him. It's good to know. Buddha

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00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: Baker finished was six tackles, one quarterback kid. He was

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00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: the third leading tackler j t Or Jalen Thompson ten tackles,

741
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: Avon Collins eight. So those are your top three tacklers. Interesting,

742
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: which I think is going to be the norm this season. No,

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00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: you would probably and usually don't like your safeties to

744
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: be your leading tacklers. But how many times are we

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00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: seeing number three, number thirty four either near the line

746
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: of scrimmage or on the second level. So I think

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00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of an asterisk when you talk

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00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: about the cardinal safeties leading the team and tackles. Yeah,

749
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: and there were a number of people who were railing

750
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: about that after last week, but you're right, they dropped

751
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: them down in the boxer and they're in the slot

752
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: quite a bit. They're relied upon on run blitzes to

753
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: be run stoppers. So so you're right there, far from

754
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: your traditional deep you know, pair of safeties that you

755
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: see with like a lot of these these coverages, these

756
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: shell coverage or the two high safeties. That's not advanced, Joseph.

757
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: That's not the Cardinals. That's not what they do with

758
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson and Buddha Baker. The only disappointment I have

759
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: with what happened on Sunday postgame, Paul, we could not

760
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: get this out of your conversation with head coach Cliff

761
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: Kingsbury and will leave you with this Bird game. Oh boy,

762
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: the head coach asked by the media first question out

763
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: of the gate, how does this win feel? Quote? I

764
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: was telling those coaches usually I just lost and I'm

765
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: super hung over on Sundays in Vegas. So this was

766
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: a good change up. Yeah, I didn't get that. I

767
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: didn't get that sort of personality on him. Dang. You know,

768
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: maybe see but see he meets the media first, then

769
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: he comes to do the postgame radio, and in between

770
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: I do the players. But you know, maybe he thought

771
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: about that comment. He's like, yeah, you know, maybe, but

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00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: that's great. That's that's once again, that is that is

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00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: Cliff being Cliff. It's the Cliff Kingsbury that we're now

774
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: seeing that everyone else sees behind the scenes. You know,

775
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: a really smart, intelligent, sort of deadpan sense of humor.

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00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: You know, a humble, self deprecating sense of humor that

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00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: you see a lot of. There was one coach to

778
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: walk by as I was waiting after Byron Murphy and

779
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: Justin Pugh and waiting for Cliff Kingsbury to show up.

780
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: And he walked by, and he knew I was there,

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00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: and I had the headset off. He's like, had it

782
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: the whole time? I knew we had it the whole time.

783
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: And he went into the coach's office. I'm like, okay,

784
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: so yeah, that does just does Those kind of games

785
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: don't happen in the NFL, right, I mean, what is

786
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: the stat about the Raiders. Isn't that that's their biggest

787
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: blown lead ever? Correct? Ever? Talking about a Raiders team

788
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: that's been very successful. Yeah, the largest blown lead in

789
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: Raiders history. We'll just look week two. Four different teams

790
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: overcame deficits of at least ten points to win. Two

791
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: Cardinals and Dolphins overcame twenty point halftime deficits to win. Wow,

792
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen in the NFL. Well so. And then

793
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: the other one, no math, was the analytics the win

794
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: probability that said at the eight minute mark or the

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00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, when it was still twenty three to seven,

796
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: that the Raiders had a ninety eight percent probability to

797
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: win that game. Yeah. So the Cardinals, the Cardinals just

798
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: beat the house with the odds stacked against them. That's

799
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: who they did. They went into the casino and they

800
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: beat the house despite getting down to one last chip

801
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: in their pile. I mean really that that is the analogy,

802
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: and it is apt. It is apt because the odds

803
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: were just tremendously stacked against them and they're still able

804
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: to win. What happens in Vegas does not stay in

805
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 1: Vegas for the Arizona Cardinals here in twenty twenty two.

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00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: That is the hope. When you look at the third

807
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: and fourth quarters on Sunday, we will see what this

808
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: team does is now moving forward, beginning this week with

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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams coming to town. And on that note,

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Speaker 1: we will put a lid on this edition of Cardinals

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Speaker 1: As always, special thanks to our executive producer Joe Mama

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Speaker 1: Hundro for Paul Calvisi, I'm Craig Riel Lou. We'll talk

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