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Speaker 3: And we've got ourselves a little bit of collusion in

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Speaker 3: the National Football League. All right, this is the US.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot going on here. We're going to try

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Speaker 3: Pablo Torre got a hold of the court documents that

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Speaker 3: the NFL and NFLPA did not want out. They knowed

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Speaker 3: these court documents out. Somehow he got a hold of

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Speaker 3: them from a closed door meeting from last year. It

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Speaker 3: involved people such as Roger Goodell, Lamar Jackson, Kyler, Murray

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Speaker 3: owners as well too. Because the NFLPA brought a grievance

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Speaker 3: against the NFL, claiming collusion with Roger Goodell reportedly encouraging

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Speaker 3: all thirty two teams to reduce contract guarantees for veteran

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Speaker 3: players at the March twenty twenty two owners meetings.

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Speaker 1: Now, this was.

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Speaker 3: In response to the Deshaun Watson contract that everybody sort

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Speaker 3: we can't, we can't let this happen. The NFL actually

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Speaker 3: won this grievance, but the arbiter ruled that despite the

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Speaker 3: NFL encouraging collusion, he could not prove by a clear

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Speaker 3: preponderance that NFL teams acted on that advice. But he

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Speaker 3: did say, quote, there is little question that the NFL

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Speaker 3: Management Council, with the blessing of the Commissioner, encouraged all

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Speaker 3: at the March twenty twenty two annual owners meeting. Now

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, like, I'm not surprised at all. I know

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Speaker 3: it's a bad look for NFL owners, But it doesn't

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Speaker 3: I don't have any false pretenses about what the NFL is.

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Speaker 3: The NFL's a business. It's a cutthroat business, and I

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Speaker 3: there are discussions tampering, collusion. I think all of those

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Speaker 4: I see are lies and collusion.

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Speaker 1: Let's think about this here. The fans contracts guaranteed money.

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Speaker 1: I can't see how it would The NFL has survived

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Speaker 1: Why does it have to be considered to be colluding.

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Speaker 3: are featured in that collusion revelation the Pablo Tory uncovered

432
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Speaker 3: and talking about the Lamar Jackson negotiations. Speaking of the

433
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens, Deontay Johnson, remember he was he was a

434
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Speaker 3: member of the Baltimore Ravens last year and there was

435
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Speaker 3: some speculation that he did not want to enter the

436
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Speaker 3: game at one point they were playing. I believe the Eagles,

437
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 3: and it was a very cold day. He did not

438
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Speaker 3: want to enter the game, and so he explained his

439
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Speaker 3: decision on these Sports and Suits podcast earlier this month

440
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Speaker 3: as to why he decided, Yeah, I don't want any

441
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Speaker 3: part of this.

442
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Speaker 5: I wasn't getting into like no and plays, no like

443
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 5: passing places or nothing. It was cold. So I'm on

444
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,239
Speaker 5: the sideline just standing there, like just going to the

445
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 5: heater back and forth, like just waiting to hear my

446
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Speaker 5: name Carl So in the third going into the fourth

447
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 5: or whatever. They're like, Tay, we need you. I'm like,

448
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 5: to me, I'm thinking, like I don't think it's a

449
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 5: good idea for me, Like because I was thinking about

450
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 5: like my legs. I'm already I don't want to go

451
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 5: out there and put bad stuff on film.

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Speaker 1: Right right.

453
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Speaker 5: And it's not like I didn't want to go in

454
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Speaker 5: the game, but you got to think, like leading up

455
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Speaker 5: to this point, I hadn't been through so much.

456
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Speaker 1: And and like you said, man, you were kind of yeah.

457
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Speaker 5: I checked out mentally. I was like, whatever happens, happens.

458
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Speaker 5: Like I was just rolling with the punches at that time.

459
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Speaker 5: So I told him I wasn't going in. I was

460
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Speaker 5: like I understand what you're saying, like, but I'm not

461
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Speaker 5: going to go in, so I just sat on the

462
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Speaker 5: bench and then that's when they suspended me.

463
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Speaker 3: So there's the backstory about why Deontay Johnson was suspended.

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Speaker 1: It's too cold. You want away and on it. You

465
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Speaker 1: want to go, you want me to get it, you

466
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Speaker 1: want to go.

467
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Speaker 3: I think that's probably the last thing anybody wants to hear.

468
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 3: I know he just signed a deal with Cleveland. I

469
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: do not understand players that after the fact, like while

470
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Speaker 3: you're still playing. And I think it might have been

471
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Speaker 3: Nicole Hardman, who also aired out the Jets at one

472
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Speaker 3: point or had some commentary for the Jets. I don't

473
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 3: understand why you would want to label yourself and give

474
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 3: people the perception of you while you're still playing, Like,

475
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: try and earn as much money as you can, make

476
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 3: as much money as you can, play nice, do what

477
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: you need to do, and then after your career is over,

478
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Speaker 3: let it fly if need be. In real time, Why

479
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Speaker 3: would you want anybody, especially if you're bouncing around the

480
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Speaker 3: league as Deontay Johnson has, Why would you want anybody

481
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 3: to have a reason not to sign you? With how

482
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 3: many good players come into the every single year.

483
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Speaker 1: It's just funny the timing of the conversations, right, because

484
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: we just came out of a long conversation about guaranteed contracts. Well,

485
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: if he has a guaranteed contract, how you feel about that? Right? Yeah? Well,

486
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: and here's the thing, right, everything that he said, he's

487
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: well within his personal beliefs and feelings to say that

488
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: and come to those conclusions. But I think the one

489
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Speaker 1: point that's missing in that conversation. You know, when you're

490
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: doing interviews, people love to ask questions that are you know,

491
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: will give controversial, you know responses, But a lot of times,

492
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Speaker 1: you know, the interviewer isn't willing to ask or say

493
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Speaker 1: the things that may infuriate and you know, upset the

494
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Speaker 1: person that's being interviewed due to the fact that they

495
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Speaker 1: may not interview with you ever again or will in

496
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Speaker 1: the interview. Right then and there, the better question would

497
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Speaker 1: have been, as an employee of that company, you you

498
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Speaker 1: do understand those are choices that you made. That's not

499
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Speaker 1: your duty, that's not your responsibility, and what you're getting

500
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: paid for, you do understand that. Like that would have

501
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: been my follow up, Like you do understand if you

502
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Speaker 1: chose to check out. Mentally, you chose that. That's a

503
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: choice that you made, because ultimately you're on your job,

504
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: like am I supposed to? Am I supposed to? As

505
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Speaker 1: a coach that's looking at my personnel, say to myself,

506
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: up cat, send him in. He's probably checked out by now,

507
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: you know, like, yeah, you're getting paid to do a job.

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Speaker 1: And so to me, it just immediately says to me,

509
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: you made a choice, and that choice led to you

510
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: getting suspended. And if it were my team, you would

511
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: probably have been released. We would have released you the

512
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Speaker 1: next day, and and and that to me, you just

513
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: have to understand to say all those things. He said

514
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: all that to say, I just didn't want to put

515
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: any bad film on I didn't want to put no

516
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: bad you know, put any bad plays on film, Like, bro,

517
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Speaker 1: do you understand what you put into your your reputation

518
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: and record book. I'd rather have a bad rep and

519
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: be able to say they didn't play me all game.

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00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: It was a cold ass game. I was not warmed up.

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00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: This is what you get on film, don't you that

522
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Speaker 1: It's a poor it's a poor excuse of trying to

523
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: get out of the way of saying you were butt

524
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Speaker 1: hurt and you didn't want to go in. I listen,

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Speaker 1: I'll give personal account. I was. I was basically benched

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Speaker 1: my last year in Washington. I was benched, and I

527
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: was always waiting for him to call my name, even

528
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: as a former captain, all pro all what is it?

529
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Speaker 1: Pro bowler? I'm sitting on. I can remember. I can

530
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Speaker 1: remember being in Dallas and one of the coaches. I

531
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: was sitting on the cooler and one of the coaches says,

532
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: stay ready, stay ready for our stay ready, And I

533
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: just laughed at him, like, y'all don't have no intentions

534
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: of putting me in if they would have been like

535
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: Arrington get in, like treated me like I was a rookie.

536
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: Rrington get in. I'm gonna go in the gang. You

537
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: know why because my body of work and what I

538
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: bring to the table and my teammates that means more

539
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: to me in those moments than any type of personal

540
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: gripes or feelings that I may have towards one not

541
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: being a starter, two towards doing my job right, and

542
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: three what I represent to to my teammates. I've always

543
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: told my teammates, we have to shine in the face

544
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: of adversity not not sink and disappear. You have to

545
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: you have to be a superstar in those moments, and

546
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: sometimes it seems like it's it's easy to be that person,

547
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: and in others it's the most difficult. That was one

548
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: of the most difficult times in my life playing for

549
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins and being benched over something that had

550
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: absolutely zero to do with my talent, my skill level,

551
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Speaker 1: the way I played. It had everything to do with

552
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Speaker 1: a contract issue. Nonetheless, that's the situation I found myself in.

553
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Speaker 1: But knowing if I'm going to practice every day, that's

554
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: my job. I'm going to practice, that's my choice to

555
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: be available, knowing that on game day they had no

556
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Speaker 1: intentions of playing me, I'm going to put my if

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Speaker 1: I'm putting my uniform on, if you're dressing me, I'm

558
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: on the active roster. That's my job. I'm going to

559
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: be ready. I'm gonna encourage my teammates. I'm gonna be

560
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: ready to play if I need to play, I don't

561
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: care what the weather is. I put the uniform on.

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Speaker 1: I'm on the sideline. I'm ready to go. That's what

563
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: my job is, and so to me, I can't I

564
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: can look my kids in the face and tell them

565
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Speaker 1: to be big in the face adversity. I can look

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Speaker 1: at my mom and my dad and tell them you

567
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Speaker 1: raise me to be that type of person. I understand

568
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: what adversity means. It's a privilege to be able to

569
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: be in adverse situations, to have pressure on you. I

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00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: get it, and in the midst of something that's not easy,

571
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: I show that the character that I have, the way

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Speaker 1: I was raised, the way I see the world, that

573
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Speaker 1: this is more important for me to be the best employee,

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Speaker 1: teammate that I can be, versus being a privileged person

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Speaker 1: and approaching it from the standpoint of I checked out.

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Speaker 1: This isn't for me. I don't want to play. Y'all

577
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: don't want me to play. Y'all haven't used me. I

578
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: don't want to play. It's not your it's not If

579
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: it was your job to make that decision, then you

580
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: would have been in the game. It's not your job

581
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: to make those decisions. So you got to make the

582
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: best of your opportunities when you have.

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Speaker 3: Them, and you should also make it as difficult as

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00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: possible on your employer or whoever's got to make that call.

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Speaker 1: In the end to have to make that call or

586
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Speaker 1: the next one.

587
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: Why why give anybody an easy way out if they're

588
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 3: looking to cut numbers or trim the fat, so to speak.

589
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 3: Why make it easy on them, Make it difficult on them,

590
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 3: make them feel like crap. If they've got to have

591
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: that discussion with you, you'll You'll never hear a you know,

592
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: a Knox lost his job because they did work hard.

593
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 3: Just it's not happen because that was our our dad,

594
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 3: Our dad and our mom told us. Listen, you better

595
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: work your ass off. That's just the way it goes.

596
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 3: Like you, you represent yourself through work ethic more so

597
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: than anything like, bust your ass, work hard. Yeah, maybe

598
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: it's not the smartest thing in the world. Maybe you

599
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: need more, You need this, you need more sleep, you

600
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 3: need dude, bust your ass. Don't give anybody a reason

601
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 3: to walk away from you just because you half asked it.

602
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 3: And I that blows my mind that anybody would sit

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00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 3: there and be like, yeah, I just don't want to

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Speaker 3: go back into the games too.

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Speaker 1: Cold, checked out one bad film. Why why like you guys,

606
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 1: and why do I want you? If I'm the next team,

607
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: this next team not signed them, I'm I'm that's that

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00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: may be something that our scouting department has on file,

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00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: and you're not going to get the grace or the

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Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt in any of those situations at

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Speaker 1: that place.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, talking to collusion, you don't mean

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Speaker 3: you mean to tell me there's probably not conversations that Hey,

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Speaker 3: so and so called the Ravens were like, hey, so,

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Speaker 3: what was your experience with Deontay Johnson?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Well, this is what he's like.

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Speaker 2: and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,

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Speaker 2: bad and ugly all right?

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Speaker 1: Lead to lap Who's got what well?

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Speaker 4: As we do each and every Wednesday, we start with

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Speaker 4: the good and this week Levars delivered those goods.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think the goods this week is

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Speaker 1: the fact that the NBA Finals has concluded. We know

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Speaker 1: who the best team is in the NBA. It's the

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Speaker 1: Okay see Thunder, Congrats to them. We know who the

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Speaker 1: best player was in the NBA this year, SGA Shay Gilders,

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Speaker 1: Alexander congrats to him. And you know that's a wrap

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Speaker 1: for the season. So whether you want it more or not,

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Speaker 1: it's still had a maybe maybe not as exciting ending

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Speaker 1: as you would like or hope, but it was a

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Speaker 1: very competitive NBA finals. So shots out to the NBA

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Speaker 1: and getting through and completing a successful season. That's my good. Well,

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Speaker 1: you can't have good without the bad. Jonas, what was

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Speaker 1: bad this week? Your diet choices, I don't understand.

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Speaker 3: In a time slot where we've got to wake up

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Speaker 3: at one in the morning, you think it's a brilliant

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Speaker 3: idea to go Indian food and top it off with

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Speaker 3: a hazel nut coffee.

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Speaker 1: OD natural direct.

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Speaker 3: No good that ran through you like Usain Bolt too,

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Speaker 3: and we're all suffering the repercussion because of it. We

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Speaker 3: all have to pay the price because of your dietary choices.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to cut out burgers bad from two burgers

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Speaker 4: to one a day, guys, from bad to worse. Although

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Speaker 4: you can't get much worse than that. What was ugly

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Speaker 4: this week Haliburton's Achilles rupture Terear. That was that's always

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Speaker 4: ugly to see, always ugly to watch, So that was

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Speaker 4: that's definitely the ugliest I saw this week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's what was J Williams saying eight this year?

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Speaker 3: Eight Achilles ruptures this year that suffered in the NBA,

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Speaker 3: so not great and then not great for next year

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Speaker 3: as well too for several teams in the East.

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Speaker 1: It's the bummer