1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: My brother calls me Dad, and I refuse to tell 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: him the ugly truth? Am I the asshole? 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 2: You know, there could be a lot of potentially ugly 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: truth there, or a bunch of potential beauty. 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: Beauty, Let's see if it's beauty or ugliness. 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: I love. 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: I was born when my parents were both at nineteen, 8 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: and my only other brother, let's call him Josh, was 9 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: born when they were forty two. 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: Wow, that is quite the age. Guay. Wow. They so 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: they had one kid together at nineteen and another kid 12 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 2: together so. 13 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Twenty three years later. 14 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 2: Wow. 15 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: They divorced shortly after Josh was introduced to the world. 16 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 1: He was four months old at that time, and they 17 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: both wanted nothing to do with the child. Oh man, man, 18 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: they probably they were together for at least two seconds, 19 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, this second gid pops 20 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: out and they're like, no, oh, my gosh, that's sad, dude. 21 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: At the time, I was twenty three and I was 22 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: living alone with my then girlfriend, who was twenty one, 23 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: and she's not my wife. There we go, and I 24 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: had done my best, convinced at least one of them 25 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: to take care of young Josh for his sake. And 26 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: for family's sake, but they refused adamantly and said that 27 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: I should be taking custody of him instead. Your actions 28 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: that produced Josh, I did not do this. I did 29 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: not do this. 30 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 2: I didn't do it. Wait, it wasn't me. 31 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: So I became legal guardian of my brother and he's 32 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: been living with us for the past twelve years and 33 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: things have been going really smoothly for us. 34 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: Wow. 35 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: Ope, wait a step shout out, holy shit, Like your 36 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: parents are scumbags, but obviously you didn't inherit their terrible 37 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: way of interacting with the world. 38 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: Big heart for you. Op. 39 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: Josh, now almost thirteen, has been calling me dad, and 40 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: my wife mom, and our two children for female nine 41 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: male his siblings, and he has absolutely no idea about 42 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: his real parents. And to be honest, I let all 43 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: of that slide. Whoa, So he doesn't know the truth. 44 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: He doesn't know that's true, the truth. He has no 45 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: idea that I'm really his blood brother and not his father. 46 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: And I'm starting to feel guilty and a little weird, 47 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: oh man, which is I understand? 48 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 2: Yeah? Course of course you on one hand, you want 49 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: to be. 50 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: Truthful and like, like, be honest about this whole situation. 51 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: And on the other hand, it's a twelve year old 52 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: kid that views you as the father. 53 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: And you know it's gonna you know, it's gonna you know, hurt. 54 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, almost certainly is just gonna. 55 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: I feel for you. It's a tough one. 56 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,279 Speaker 1: Some of my uncles and aunts come to visit occasionally 57 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: and they are really disgusted at the fact he calls 58 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: me dad, and they are surprised that I haven't told 59 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: him the truth. 60 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: Disgusted. 61 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: Okay, first of all, First of all, yeah, when you 62 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: adopt a kid, when you get legal custody over a kid, 63 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: you know, maybe you you just adopt them from foster 64 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: care or however you acquire the baby whatever, What does 65 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: that baby call you? 66 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: Parental guardian unit now called it dad, and mom, it 67 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: calls you daddy, called it daddy. 68 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: So how is this any different? 69 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: It's oh, he is the dad, is the dad raised 70 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: the child. 71 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: Being dad isn't biological. Being dad is a responsibility that 72 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: you take on. You heard that, fucking like I feel 73 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: I was speaking. 74 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: Yeah truth. 75 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: They constantly message me, talk to me in private, and 76 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: I cannot chat to them without this one particular topic 77 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: rising up, badgering me to let him know already, but 78 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: I refused. I discussed as with my wife, and she 79 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: thought it would be wrong to tell him the truth 80 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: because none of my parents wanted to take care of him, 81 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: and I'm the only person in the world who gave 82 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: him the father figure everyone deserves. I feel that he 83 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: has the right to know what he is to me 84 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: and what I truly am to him. But he suffered 85 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: enough already, and I just want things to continue. How 86 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: it is so reddit, Am I the asshole? Would I 87 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: be the asshole if I let him know the truth? 88 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: And there is a justy update oh man coming around 89 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: the corner. 90 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: But fuck, this is like this is really hard. 91 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 1: This is really this is this is a difficult situation. 92 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: It really is. If there's if there's one thing, OPI 93 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: is not. OPI is not the ahole. OPI is the angel. 94 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, in the scenario of a kid that your 95 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: parents decided to discard, like there's nothing other than you 96 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: being the best person. Yes, But it is like I 97 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: think there there is a question, yeah, because I think 98 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: the truth should be told, But the question is at 99 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: what age and at what time do you tell the truth? 100 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: Is twelve years old, the time I don't think so. 101 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, my gut says that that's two 102 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: young still developing. I feel like, honestly like maybe like 103 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: maybe like a close to what look at that giant 104 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: ass mosquito. Bruh, But you know, much much like that 105 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: ugly mosquito. There's there's an ugly truth that we are 106 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: faced with right now. I personally might my gut is 107 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: saying kind of like close to college graduation age. Because 108 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 2: college graduation, I think like there's like eighteen Obviously it's 109 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: like okay, you're like you're you're coming into into adulthood. 110 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 2: But I just think back at myself at eighteen, and 111 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 2: I think the early adult development might have might have 112 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 2: been a lot tougher, whereas like you have a few 113 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 2: years of adult not just full child development but adult 114 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 2: development as well under your belt, and so you can 115 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: handle a little bit more. But it's not so far 116 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: gone that you're like thirty or forty or like, you know, 117 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: you look back at your entire I don't know. 118 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: I feel like end of college is too late a 119 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: little bit. It could be, I could be this is there. 120 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: Tell me what you think about it. Yes, yeah, I'm 121 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: thinking sixteen, Yeah, right sixteen and say, hey, this is 122 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: a situation. But when you're sixteen, you're still living at home. 123 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: And so I feel like Ops time to just like 124 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: watch his son, because I think it is really a 125 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: son brother agree, but to watch his son brother like 126 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: take this information into the world and like ensure that 127 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: he's okay as he takes into the world. Because like 128 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: if you say, at twenty two, yeah, you're like an adult, 129 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: but it's like like is he okay with that knowledge? 130 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: Like how is he doing? 131 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: Right? 132 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but at sixteen you could be like you can 133 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: wash away or like support as he's dealing with this knowledge. 134 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Because one thing, one thing I didn't consider is 135 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: like there's that like chart probably a lot of people 136 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 2: have seen, is like you know the time you have 137 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: with your parents after you like graduate high school and in college. Like, yeah, 138 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: let's assume that Op does not live with his parents 139 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: after like college graduation. That's like so much less face time. 140 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: To assuage maybe some of the concerns like do you 141 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: still love me? Like like stuff like that. It's like 142 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: like like I think like Op now has time to 143 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: say like, hey, like I still love you. You're an 144 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: amazing kid. Like this is like, you are this to me, even. 145 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: Just get even if there's no like a big questions 146 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 2: like that, just simply getting used to that will probably 147 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: happen a lot faster with the FaceTime of the parent 148 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: there versus like op on his own and maybe running 149 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: through through his head without the love and support and 150 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: presence of history there. 151 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: So there is an update. I've just got up to 152 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: discuss this with my wife and now after a lot 153 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: of hesitation, we've decided that it's best the truth comes 154 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: from us, and it has to come now. 155 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: Wow. Wow. 156 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: Something actually I didn't even think about is the possibility 157 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: of one of those family members telling the kid, which 158 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: would be worse. 159 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: Given this family seems highly likely likely so if everyone 160 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: was like down to like keep the secret and support 161 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: it of the different story, but that is not the 162 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: case here. 163 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I think coming from them is better. 164 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: I went to my local therapist and told him about 165 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: situation and asked what to do to keep it short. 166 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: He said he's heard similar accounts from before and said 167 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: it is best to tell him as soon as possible, 168 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: for multiple reasons, and to make sure that my biological 169 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: children are present for multiple reasons. When telling that's interesting. 170 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: I asked a few of my closest friends, and the 171 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: majority said more or less the same thing. My wife 172 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: and I decided to sit the kids down and burst 173 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: the big bubble. I'm like, curious, why what the reason 174 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: is to have the kids there too? 175 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I definitely see telling the kids at some point, 176 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: just so, like all the information is the same. Yeah, 177 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: why is it all together? 178 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 179 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: That's yeah, I'm not sure. Honestly. 180 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: I asked my brother Josh to come closer, and I 181 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: made sure I held him close and made him feel comfortable. 182 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: He asked, what's going on? But I started by telling 183 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: us how much we cared and loved for him. Then 184 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: told him everything about my parents, I put them in 185 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: a bright light in hopes of reunion, and who I 186 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: am to him. Then quickly hugged him and my other 187 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: two kids together and told him that I love all 188 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: my children the same and nothing is going to change 189 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: my love for him. He was shocked and asked if 190 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: I was joking, But I was starting to cry a 191 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: little at this point, so he knew I was serious. 192 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: My biological children were very surprised too. He was in 193 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: tears and asked me why I didn't tell him sooner. 194 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: I didn't know what to say and said, I was 195 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: just trying to protect you. I'm sorry, and I hope 196 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: you can forgive me. But unfortunately and understandably he left. Wow, 197 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: he didn't talk to me as much again, understandably so. 198 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: But I continually offered him to go out to the 199 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: park and play a bit of football. He loves that 200 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: and all his favorite things. But he just outright declined 201 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: and even got a little angry sometimes for me even 202 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: talking to him. 203 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: It's the angst, the uncertainty like that is that is uh. 204 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: Such just a big load of information, just a big. 205 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 2: Load of information to do with you, especially like right 206 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 2: after you know, I thought. 207 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: I messed up big time until one day while my 208 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: wife and two children were out doing shopping and we 209 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: were alone, he came up to me and said, I 210 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: know you're not my real father, but I want to 211 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: let you know you're the best dad in the whole world. 212 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: Sorry for before, Riley, are we gonna. 213 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: Cry in this episode? Is that? Is that what you're 214 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: doing to us? He's saying, good to cry, He's saying yes. 215 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: I hugged him and things got pretty emotional. It would 216 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: be a big lie to say my house is normal 217 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: now far from that, but things are slowly, ever so 218 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: slowly starting to brighten up. There's no longer anything to 219 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: hide anymore, and it feels like we are being born again. 220 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: Josh is a tough kid, and he handled this far 221 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: better than I believed he would. I'll be looking at 222 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: a therapy for him to help him recover, just in 223 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: case it doesn't go well. In the long run, I'll 224 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: strive and can you need to be a great dad 225 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: to my kids and a great dad to my brother son. 226 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: Thank you, Reddit for pushing me towards this happy ending. 227 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for all the advice and judgments I got, 228 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: excluding the rude ones about my uncles and aunts. Eke, 229 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: I love you all, and good. 230 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: Night, okay, hold on just my goodness for a beautiful, 231 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: happy ending. It was so cute. 232 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: I was getting get a little period, dude, a little period, 233 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: so I guess we were both wrong, and then saying 234 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: that you should wait until he was like older. 235 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: You know what I was also thinking as we were 236 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 2: after getting into the update, was like, if you actually 237 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: tell him really young and help him understand like from 238 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 2: an early early age. There was actually a great example 239 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: in the long solo episode I did, which thanks you 240 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: guys for the for the nice comments there. The father 241 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 2: it was not his biological child as well, and then 242 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: the kid found out at four or five or something 243 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: like that. So someone on Reddit gave us an amazing suggestion. 244 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 2: She had a teddy that was with her at all times. 245 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: So he built he had her build a lego teddy 246 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 2: and he built a lego version of her. Right, so 247 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 2: he said, because you kept asking like, oh, do you 248 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 2: still love me? You didn't make me. Then he was like, hey, 249 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: do you like you? Do you love your lego teddy 250 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 2: more than your actual teddy. She's like, no, I love 251 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 2: my actual teddy the most. That's my teddy. And then 252 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: he's like, well, that's the same thing. I just made 253 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: this lego version of you. But that doesn't mean I 254 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: love the lego version. I love you because you're my daughter. 255 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: And then it clicked for her. It's hit me again, dude, 256 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: Riley're gonna make his crime. This episode is this good? 257 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: It's good. Tears are good, but yeah, man, beautiful ways 258 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: of true angels and heroes connecting with their children that 259 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 2: are not related by blood, but they are their children. 260 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: They are their children. Being a dad, being a parent, 261 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: it is a hat that you put on, a responsibility 262 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: that you take on. It is not biology, which you know, 263 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: I think he's parents for the originally actually biological parents proved. 264 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: It's like they didn't take on that responsibility and so 265 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: Op stepped up and did, and that's what makes him 266 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: a parent. 267 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely right. Well, Sam and everyone watching grab a tissue 268 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: because I got another one for you, another tear jerker. 269 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's get into it. 270 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: I gave my prize possession to a fellow student instead 271 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: of my greedy Meece. She didn't deserve it, am I 272 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 2: the ahole. Just because she's blood doesn't mean she gets 273 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: the gift, that's right. You know. 274 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: That's why I never give my family any gifts. My 275 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: mom's birthdays this weekend, nothing nothing, zero zero, just not 276 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: even get my presence. Wow, My presence and my presents 277 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: are relegated only to random people in the street and 278 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: on the internet. 279 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: The hundred new friends yea and our twenty thousand new 280 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: friends probably watching this. 281 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, I had twenty thousand friends. 282 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 2: Yeah hell yeah, we love you so much so I 283 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 2: thirty six male have been learning the cello for eight 284 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: years and attending the same music school since starting. Shout 285 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 2: out to you for a lat in life skill. 286 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: You know. I almost went to music school at Princeton, 287 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: got waitlisted no piano there, and then what happened? Then? 288 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: I decided to do engineering instead. 289 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: Could we do a Alex Weber esque revolt against the 290 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: Princeton School of Music? 291 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: Sure, Darren Tasley, If you look up Allegro Giacoso on 292 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: YouTube and Samuel Donner, there is a Princeton video of 293 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: me trying to get in. 294 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: Dude Princeton official. I started learning late in life because 295 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: I grew up in a poor family that couldn't afford 296 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 2: things like instruments and music lessons. I met Chloe while 297 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: we were both waiting to go into our lesson a 298 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: few years back. We speak often about random stuff on 299 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: the regular because our lessons have always fallen into the 300 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: same time slot and we're both in the orchestra, et cetera, 301 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: et cetera. She's about thirteen, very polite and eager to learn, 302 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: and treats her very cheap rubbish instrument that her parents 303 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: got for her from an online store. 304 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: Like gold Oh damn, A very cheap rubbish instrument. 305 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: Her piece of shit. Her toast strings in a cardboard boss's. 306 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: She tries, it makes sund like a cave person uga 307 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: boo sounds stupid. Oh God, goodness gracious, what a backhanded 308 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: attempted a compliment? So bad? Bro Oh. I know her 309 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 2: parents and they're lovely people. It's all they can afford. 310 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: I'm not shaming them, but if you know anything about instruments, 311 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: it's crap. It's absolute shit, you know what I mean. 312 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: It's only half the size and far too small for her, 313 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: but there's not. 314 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: It's a beauty, tidy instrument. Big boy cello's are supposed 315 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: to be big. 316 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: I have big sounds for big boys. It's only half 317 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: the size and far too small for her, but there's 318 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: not a single scratch on it, and she practices every 319 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: spare minute. 320 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: Wow, that's cool. 321 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: I've recently decided to upgrade to a performer instrument, and 322 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: a trade in on my current nine thousand dollars cello 323 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: Shosh would have only gotten me four K back, so 324 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: I decided to keep it and sell it myself. I'm 325 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: pretty well off now, but I know what it's like 326 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: to be where Chloe is, so I've taken pity question 327 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: mark on her. I usually gift her something at Christmas, 328 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: like her next grade of music book Rozin, a gift 329 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: card to a local luthier string instrument maker to get 330 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: a new bow and have her instruments serviced. But having 331 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: not had time to list my old cello for sale 332 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: or even know where to my good deed strings, got 333 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 2: plucked at thinking my old instrument would likely mean the 334 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: world to someone like Chloe, whose parents will likely never 335 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 2: afford a decent instrument for her. Her parents will never 336 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 2: upgrade springs on the puny little savage dude, savage good gravy. 337 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: What a nice, mean person, But stupid me mentioned this 338 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 2: idea to my sister in law, Gail, who has a 339 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 2: daughter fourteen female will call her Alice, and she told 340 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: me that Alice wants to learn the cello and insisted 341 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 2: that I give the instrument to her daughter instead. 342 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: As it she hasn't even started. 343 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: But as it's too valuable to give to a stranger's kid, 344 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 2: Come on to some puny string box. 345 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: You're not going to even use the cello though, like 346 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: she hasn't even This girl is like hasn't even started. 347 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: This girl is like giving her blood, sweat and tears 348 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: this tiny little half man cello and like, why this 349 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: other girl, this niece might. 350 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: Want to learn the cello. Let's play it out super quickly. 351 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: Let's let's say the niece takes up cello, picks it 352 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: up as a hobby, whatever becomes a thing she does 353 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: in school and doesn't do for the rest of her life. 354 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 2: Chloe might do this as a profession, given how deep 355 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 2: into it she is, So this could be the thing 356 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 2: that It's like the teacher that gives you the pat 357 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: in the back to this. 358 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: This could be the encouragement that she needs to take 359 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: it even further. 360 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 2: And like build a life that she loves with doing 361 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 2: what she loves. 362 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: Like literally, Op, this, this gift by op could could 363 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: self actualize a human truly. 364 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 2: Wow, God, Riley tears tears, Riley, what are you doing? 365 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: It's good. Alice is her own little dude, and we 366 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: get along quite well. But she has never mentioned wanting 367 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 2: to learn an instrument to me until she watched Wednesday. 368 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: And now it's cool all of a sudden, you know, 369 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 2: a freaking rip on those strings. Bro. 370 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: I mean, like just because you watch one rock concert 371 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: and be like it would be cool to play guitar, 372 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: Like doesn't mean you're actually gonna learn how to play 373 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: guitar the next Bach? 374 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah you Bach is Bach Come on yo more like 375 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 2: yo yo me she wait and see every watch watch 376 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: Opie's niece just like become the next some font and 377 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 2: then like this person just like totally like trashes the 378 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 2: one thousand dollars cello. 379 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: Oh man, I know, but based on how that the kid, 380 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: the Chloe takes care of her current cello, She's probably 381 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: gonna take care of this one amazingly. 382 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: And just like every day wake up, probably just like 383 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: so emelod yeah to just so much gratitude. Probably, Oh 384 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: it's beautiful now, Alice, my niece hasn't stuck with anything 385 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 2: for long. She always fads and jumps from one thing 386 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 2: to another, and it's, for lack of a better word, spoil. 387 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: And based on her track record, handing her anything other 388 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: than a student cello as her first instrument would be 389 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: a waste, as I'm unable to convince myself that she 390 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: would even practice, let alone reach a point that would 391 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 2: call for this level of an instrument. Agreed a grade 392 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 2: where Chloe is at a point where, yes, this instrument 393 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: is slightly too big for her right now, but she 394 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 2: needs it and call me what you'd like for this part. 395 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 2: But I'd feel happier giving it away to someone that 396 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: needs it, like Chloe, rather than someone that just wants 397 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 2: it because it's connected to me. Yeah, I feel like 398 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 2: that makes total sense, makes a ton of sense. That's 399 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: I give the gift where it will have the most 400 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 2: impact a million percent. But that has me worried that 401 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 2: I might be seen as an a hole for this decision. 402 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: Family first question mark. This music school is putting on 403 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: Christmas carols tonight and I intend to give the cello 404 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 2: to Chloe at the end of it, but I'm still 405 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 2: conflicted about it. There is an update I'm assuming with 406 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: some resolution. 407 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited hear it. I think OP is not 408 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: the ahole for giving a cello where it's wanted and 409 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: needed most. 410 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 2: I completely agree, Like it seems like Chloe like just 411 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,239 Speaker 2: just through and also we had the additional context of 412 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 2: the niece just kind of hops in and out of things. 413 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: And also if you rearrange the letters in Chloe c 414 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: h l EO or c ch e l O cello 415 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: c h l O, my mind is blown. I speaks 416 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: for itself. 417 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: I can't. I'm speechless, speechless, I'm. 418 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: Chloe is cello, Chloe is cello. 419 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 2: It must happen, but I've just gotten home from the 420 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 2: Christmas Carols event. Some people mentioned asking Chloe's parents for 421 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: permission to give to the cello, and I'm glad this 422 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 2: was mentioned because it was something that I hadn't considered, 423 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: and it led to what I feel was the perfect outcome. 424 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: I feel the tears, guys, They're my tears. Duck sir, 425 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: getting wild when wild. Everyone had settled after the students 426 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: had finished the show, and parents and volunteers brought cakes 427 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: et cetera to share, and everyone was just standing around 428 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: and chatting, Oh man, you know what's coming, co OPI's 429 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 2: a good writer. Chloe ran off to join the line 430 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 2: to get her bag of lollies and goodies, and it 431 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: gave me a moment to approach her folks without having 432 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 2: to mention my intention in front of Chloe, before knowing 433 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: how it would be received by them. 434 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: Classy move. 435 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 2: I was nervous as hell, but opened with my usual 436 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 2: compliments on Chloe's playing. She played what child is This? 437 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 2: In a quartet and it was perfect and I made 438 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: a lighthearted joke about her growing too quickly and dwarfing 439 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: her cello now. Her parents laughed, but went on to 440 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 2: mention how they've been saving to buy her a bigger 441 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: one and that they didn't want to go cheap on 442 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 2: it this time like they had for her first couple, 443 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 2: having learned a lot very quickly about quality. But when 444 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: they taken Chloe to the Lucier, the maker of stringed instruments, 445 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 2: with the intention of getting her one for Christmas, they'd 446 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: been disappointed to find out that they hadn't saved enough 447 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 2: for the quality that Chloe needed, and that they'd been devastated, 448 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 2: despite Chloe understanding and taking this revelation quite well. 449 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: That's gotta be so hard as parents being like, you 450 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: want to get the best fear of child, which can't 451 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: afford it. Oh my god, and just her dedication in 452 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: her dedication. 453 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: Her positive attitude, and. 454 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: Just oh Chloe, Chloe's Chloe is the real one, this. 455 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 2: Real MVP over here. Figuring a new cello was kind 456 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 2: of something they'd worked hard on getting for Chloe. I 457 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 2: decided to try to get them in on the idea 458 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 2: and ask them how much they'd saved and would they 459 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: be interested in buying my old one, as I had 460 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: a new one now and had no need for it. 461 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 2: But I didn't notice that Chloe had approached back from 462 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: the line, and she piped up with a low tone 463 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: that they hadn't even saved enough for the student quality instruments, 464 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: let alone mine. Oh caught a stray, caught a stray. 465 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 2: She overheard the conversation. 466 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: I would also feel like bad for the parents, because 467 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, we're like, we try to save I 468 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: just wasn't enough. And then like Chloe was like, yeah, yeah, 469 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: they could even save for the like the like they 470 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: could they like, they didn't save nearly a man. 471 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 2: Oh, bro, parents gets and strays over here too. Yikes. 472 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: Well hopefully hopefully it's a little bit better. And then 473 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 2: everyone got angry and no, no, no, that's not the end. 474 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 2: It's not the end. She had a good idea of 475 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 2: how much instruments are worth. I stumbled on my words 476 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 2: a little, but I went on to insist on knowing 477 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 2: how much they'd saved, and her mother told me that 478 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: they'd saved around sixteen hundred dollars. I told them that 479 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 2: that sounded like a good enough offer to me, and 480 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 2: that I'd be happy to know that it was being 481 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: played and cherished by someone like Chloe that would take 482 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: good care of it. And I held my hand out 483 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 2: to shake on the deal. No one answered for what 484 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 2: felt like hour to me. You know, just like that 485 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: moment where you can hear a pin drop. 486 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it is like fully extended, yeah, just like 487 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: you're going to take this deal shake and he's like 488 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: an op is not like Gary veeing these people. 489 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 2: You'll, bro, you need to fucking play the cello, bro, 490 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: and like fuck your parents love the music, pro do 491 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 2: what you love? Or like the garage sale? Are you 492 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 2: kidding me? If I could buy a paintal with sell 493 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 2: over four cents? Bro? Are you fucking kidding me? Dog, 494 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 2: you're twelve years old. You should be able to make 495 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 2: a million dollars by now. Just hustle harder, pro Oh jeez, 496 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: you can't get me going to go to it's over. 497 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 2: Chloe's father finally responded and told me that they couldn't 498 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 2: accept it, as Chloe had pointed out an instrument of 499 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: equal value to mine to them, they were at the 500 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: shop and he didn't feel that it was right to 501 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: take it for anything but a fair value and they 502 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: couldn't afford to do that. I'll admit that I felt 503 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 2: a little bit annoyed by his initial, good mannered refusal, 504 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,719 Speaker 2: but I understood it as I was raised by simpler 505 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 2: minded parents with the same values. But I told her 506 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 2: parents that this was an offer that I felt that 507 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 2: they really couldn't pass up, as it was something that 508 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: I felt Chloe had earned and needed desperately, and that 509 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: even if they didn't accept my offer, I was going 510 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 2: to give it to Chloe anyways. Damn oh pee Like 511 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 2: It's like it's like a class act and like an 512 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: act of like rebellion at the same time. 513 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: It's like, I don't fucking care if you don't got 514 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: to accept it. You're gonna take your fucking take this 515 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: shell if you like it or not. You'll take this 516 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: life changing gift whether you want or not. 517 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: Bucko. Yeah, I've got an offer you can't refuse, Okay, 518 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: And then I turned and placed the hard case in 519 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: front of the shocked and dead silent Chloe, and I 520 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: walked away. 521 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: Mike drop like like an aggressive way to give a GIF. 522 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is yours now. 523 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: I just did that this shit. Yeah, because Op said 524 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: he would get was it op Like Op said they 525 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: would get four thousand dollars for it for. 526 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: A trade in, and that was like nine grand Okay, yeah, yeah, 527 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 2: fourth nine grand you know on on the streets. 528 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:29,719 Speaker 1: Streets. 529 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Chloe's father approached me while we were helping pack 530 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 2: up the entertainment hall, and he gave me a hug 531 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: and thanked me, promising to drop off the money at 532 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 2: my shop in the morning and offering to help me 533 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 2: out if I ever needed anything. For a stubborn bloke 534 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 2: like that to be as red and teary as he 535 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: was makes me sure that I did the right thing 536 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 2: in making him accept the cello like I did. Chloe 537 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 2: was visibly emotional but trying not to make a show, 538 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 2: but broke down after mouthing thank you to me as 539 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 2: everyone was leaving. I found it extremely hard to keep 540 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 2: my composure and could only manage a smile and a 541 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 2: thumbs up in return. Oh, I think I'm going to 542 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 2: be riding this high for a good while. The best 543 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 2: thing is I can tell Gail that I sold it 544 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: without having to lie, and I can toss up the 545 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: idea of using the money that Chloe's dad is going 546 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 2: to pay me for the cello to buy a reasonable 547 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 2: secondhand learner's instrument for my niece Alice. Again, thank you 548 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: for all the responses and advice. Wow wow, so kind 549 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: of solved like the niece problem too, where it's like, yeah, 550 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: I know I had to sell it. Opie's a problem 551 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 2: solver out here, my goodness. 552 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: Wow wow. And Opie's willing to just pay, like buy 553 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: the sixteen hundred dollars learner cello, eat that money. And 554 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: then Opie. 555 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: Said he was well off now and understands like growing 556 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: up with not having much. 557 00:28:59,280 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: Wow. 558 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 2: Do you have a question for everyone watching and you, 559 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 2: mister Samuel. Initially he was like, okay, let me ask 560 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 2: them to buy it. Should he have instead led with 561 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: like just I'm going to give this to you for 562 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: free instead of like trying to get something from them, or. 563 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: I think he kind of was, but it seems like 564 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: the dad was like super proud. I think what you 565 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: don't want to do is like a rich person to 566 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,239 Speaker 1: be like I'm giving a hand out to a poor 567 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, yeah exactly, you know, like that's what 568 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: you don't want. And so because like there's this pride 569 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: involved in that hundred So I think op did the 570 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: right thing by posing it as like one, Chloe earned this, 571 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: and two like you are paying me for this, and 572 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: you're you're you're just getting a good deal. 573 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say so too, because it's like clearly 574 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: this is something that's important to them, and they're like 575 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 2: they're like good salt of the earth people. They want 576 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: to make sure they're not, you know, taking advantage of someone, 577 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: even though it's not at all the case here, but 578 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 2: they're like, hey, we want to make sure we're like 579 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: properly compensating you and doing the right thing by So 580 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: it's kind of this great meet in the middle where 581 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, sixteen hundred is probably a lot to them, 582 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: but they probably feel better like, hey, we paid what 583 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 2: we can, and do you know sixteen hundred isn't nothing nothing. 584 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: We paid what we can and we still got this 585 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 2: life changing gift for our child who like beyond deserves it. Yeah, 586 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: class act move. I'm curious what you all think of 587 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: the comments. Definitely let me know your thoughts and opinions 588 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 2: and if you have any similar stories. 589 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: And I'm also curious, like, how do you feel about 590 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: acts of quote unquote charity? Yeah, like where it's like 591 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: you see someone who may be struggling financially, or you 592 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: were struggling financially. Like if you were struggling financially and 593 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: a family member saw that and wanted to help you out, 594 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: how do you feel about that. 595 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: It's a great question. Could kind of go both ways. 596 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: We kind of go both ways, but I'd be curious 597 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: to hear if you've ever been in a similar situation 598 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: and how you dealt with it on either end. Either 599 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: you're the richie rich or you're the person that needs 600 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: some help. So's right, let us know the comments, and 601 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: with that, I think we're ready get into this next story.