1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: If you're dead and you can't do anything else, I 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't run around cursing people too for less easy. Yeah, 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: what's this nigger got the sniffles? I'm gonna beats. I 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: don't like how that shirt fits on you. Y'all. Every 5 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: shirt you try and gonna look bad. Yeah, you're gonna 6 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: be real stuff conscious when you wear them too, You're 7 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: gonna know they look bad. It ain't gonna be one 8 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: of them things where you're like, I look good for 9 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: other people are like, Now, I don't think that works. 10 00:00:39,280 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: You go, no, bitch, chips in your racist money, mars 11 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: man in terms stuff you can't tell me. Yep, there 12 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: it is there, It is there. It is. Ladies and gentlemen, 13 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to another phenomenon devastating episode of My Mama Told Me, 14 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: the podcast where we died deep, deep into the pockets 15 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: of black conspiracy theories and we finally worked to prove 16 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: that George Washington Carver discovered over three hundred uses for 17 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: the peanut, but he had zero uses for these nuts. 18 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: Do you know why? Because he was castrated as a 19 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: young boy. That's right. They took that man's testicles away 20 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: from him, and that horrible and unfair thing happened, but 21 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: I believe it was the exact motivation he needed to 22 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,919 Speaker 1: focus all of that other energy on other kinds of nuts, 23 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: no distractions. It's like how that old saying goes when 24 00:01:54,440 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: a ball nut closes a peanut opens. Huh, guys know 25 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: that classic saying that everybody says, It's it's a tale 26 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: is all this time? I'm your host, Lankston Herman. I'm 27 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: happy to be here. What a what a lovely, lovely 28 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: happy experience we have for you today, my guest, and 29 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: I should say this before my guest comes on. When 30 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: I was looking up information about George Washington Carver, one 31 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: of the first things that pops up when you type 32 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: in George Washington Carver is George Washington Carver, did he 33 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: own slaves? And Uh. That's a real sad question for 34 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: the Internet to have produced and really makes me feel 35 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: like America is hopeless and we deserve to die from 36 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: whatever virus. It doesn't have to be Corona, it can 37 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: be a way sillier virus. But we don't deserve to 38 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: keep living one way or the other. Anyway, my guest today, 39 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: he deserves to keep living. He's a good guy. Not 40 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: only is he a good person, he's a phenomenal artist. 41 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: He's one of these people that I'm immensely jealous of 42 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: because of his his many many skills. He is solely responsible, 43 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: no help. He made our theme music, he made the 44 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: artwork for this project. He he is the artist behind 45 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: so much of this. I just talked ship. This motherfucker 46 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: puts in the work. You guys are gonna love him. 47 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: A dear friend of hilarious person Mr Nick Chambers. Every money, Hello, Hello, Hello, 48 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: crowd is coming through. Great. Oh yeah, now they're here. 49 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: You made that theme music and they're like, what's up? 50 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: And let's be clear you you wrote some of the lyrics, 51 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: but I did. I wrote the less funny lyrics in 52 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: the UH. I wrote like three lyrics. I was like, 53 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, dog, just repeat it. And you were like, 54 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: those are the ones that people quote to me. Though 55 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: those are I was like, whila, bears are raisedst Like 56 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: I get a fair amount of uh of response from 57 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: But I do genuinely think the stuff about the ozone 58 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: layer in the artians and the turkey stuff and is oh, 59 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: just fantastic work. You really should be proud of yourself. 60 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: Thank you, Yeah, nobody's gonna award you for it, and 61 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: and frankly they shouldn't. It's this is a stupid, stupid 62 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: thing you've done. But I'm really happy you did it. 63 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm grateful we have an amazing conspiracy theory to unpack today. 64 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: I would argue it's new to me. I've never heard 65 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: it before, certainly not one that was like, uh constantly 66 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: in the lexicon of like ship that I heard growing up. 67 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: I know that you come from a Jamaican home, so 68 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: I have to imagine that there are some cultural sort 69 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: of like connection to some of the things that were 70 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: about to unpack. You said, and this is it's a 71 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: fun one. You said. My mama told me if you 72 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: point at a cemetery, all your fingers will fall off. 73 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: Talk to me about that. Tell me more so, if 74 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: you point episode there, all your things will fall off, 75 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: and the only way to reverse it is to bite 76 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: all of your fingers. Pre Okay, let's let's pause there 77 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: for a second, because my fingers are falling off. So 78 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: am I biting them preemptively? Exactly? You've pointed. You recognize 79 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: you pointed. You bite them too, I guess reattach the 80 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: nerves it's very medical. You bite all your fingers and 81 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: then they won't fall off. I don't know what the 82 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: time frame is in Well, That's what I'm wondering, is like, 83 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: how quickly am I expected to uh to to notice 84 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: this to bite down. I'm obviously aware of this wives tale, 85 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: So why the funk am I pointing in the first place? 86 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,679 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I asked, I asked, my parents 87 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: are like, okay, so, and this is something that they 88 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: told me long after I was a child because I 89 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: was very scary as a kid. I couldn't show up, 90 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: would have never been able to deal with this as 91 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: a child. But uh, and going back and like asking 92 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: like so weird, like who told you this? What what 93 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: would happen to, Like, I don't know, just somebody my mom? 94 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: And my mom said, I don't know, but it's a 95 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: thing that I used to do as a kid. And 96 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: my dad said, I don't know. It's from slavery. And 97 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: I asked for more information and he's like, it's probably 98 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: something left over. I don't understand. And and frankly, who 99 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: can argue with slavery. It's not there's no retort to that. 100 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: It's just like all right, it's from slavery, I guess slaves. 101 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: If I'm a slave master and people sneak out at night, 102 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: I would have been some horror stories like, yeah, there's 103 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: a cemetery, this ghosts. You gotta bite your fingers, and 104 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: why are you biting your fingers? They're coming up with 105 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: the dogs. They're catching you so right, or even if 106 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: it's a slave like being like, hey, didn't you kill 107 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: my friend? He right over there, He's like, no, if 108 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: you point your fingers gonna fall off, don't point it 109 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: a ship. Get back to work. It's just you're just 110 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: creating fear where fear wasn't, so you keep people in line. 111 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: I think I think that's that's a respectable choice. I 112 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: guess as a slave owner. The one, the one is 113 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: The one thing I respect about slave owners is they 114 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: came up with silly games to keep their slaves in mind. Slavery. 115 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: Not a fan, but if you're gonna be a slave owner, 116 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: you gotta do something silly. Tell him their fingers are 117 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: gonna fall off? Why not? All right, talk to me 118 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: a little bit about because I mentioned it in the preamble. 119 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: But your parents are Jamaican, Yes, yes, do you think 120 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: do you think that this comes from that, because I've 121 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: never heard that before, Like, I don't think that's necessarily 122 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: an American conspiracy if you will. Yeah, I haven't heard 123 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: it anywhere else. And I looked up trying to find 124 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: some information about I couldn't find anything. So I don't 125 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: know which Marley came over this ship. I'll tell you 126 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: right now, it's that Nigga Ziggy. That Nigga Ziggy was 127 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: out of pocket when he came up with this ship. 128 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: That's a classic Ziggy. You name somebody Ziggy, they're gonna 129 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: have some weird thoughts. You're gonna say something crazy. You 130 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: gotta keep up with his more talented brothers. He's gonna 131 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: say something wild. It's interesting because even in looking this up, 132 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: obviously this and I think some of my listeners would 133 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: even want to argue about this ship somewhere on the internet. 134 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: This falls probably closer to something that we qualify as superstition, 135 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: right that, Like it's a little more about like the 136 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: mythical than it is about like conspiratorial thing. But I 137 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: personally would argue, and I'd be curious to hear your 138 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: thoughts that I actually don't think there's that big of 139 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: a difference between conspiracy and superstition. It's something that you're 140 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's necessarily proven, but you believe 141 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: in its real to you, So I definitely would put 142 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: it there. I think so. And then I think, you know, 143 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: the reality is that conspiracies are just superstitionous that haven't 144 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: had enough time to cook. You know what I mean that, 145 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: like you give this one a thousand years or even 146 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: like ship that that we think is like like right 147 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: now people are arguing whether or not five G is 148 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: sucking up our bodies, right, or whether or not five 149 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: G is some sort of poisonous thing in the universe, right, 150 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: And we're gonna argue about that as like a conspiracy 151 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: or whatever. But you let that cook long enough, and 152 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: a thousand years from now, if we live that long, 153 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna be like, hey, man, don't put yourself on 154 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: below your waist, because if you put yourself on below 155 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: your waist, you'll curse your family blood for generations. And 156 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: that will know that that just means that, like, oh, 157 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: cell phone waves were cooking your testicles, but they don't 158 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: know that they're they're making it superstitions When it was 159 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: conspiracy back when we were alive to it exactly. It's 160 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: so weird thing because, like my parents are very religious, 161 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: so for this ghost thing to be part of their 162 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: their life is like a weird turn. I have believe 163 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: like ghosts and monsters, no goat, But if if you 164 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: mentioned like demons or the devil or anything, they're like 165 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: on board, Like yeah, ghost, forget that. I don't believe 166 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: any of that stuff. But have you ever seen any demon? 167 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: My mom told us that she she witnessed someone being 168 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: possessed in college. To this day, to this day, she 169 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: maintains that she's you gotta unpack that a little bit. 170 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: Tell me what happened where she's she witnessed the possession, 171 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: then went to a trigg she just witnessed an exorcism, 172 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: and then went off to the quad to her friends. 173 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: You got pe soup on my notebook. It was it 174 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: was this is in in Jamaica, and there was a 175 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: girl who lived in her dorm who was into like 176 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: weigi and spiritism and stuff. And she had a friend 177 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: who was also into it, and so they were in 178 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: like chapel and the and the preacher was talking. It 179 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: was a religious school. So the preachers talking about you 180 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,599 Speaker 1: know Jesus, and and as you do. And I don't know, 181 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: I felt the name he was talking about Jesus is weird. 182 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: And the preacher was being a while that day. He 183 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: was talking about like Ravioli and trap music. I don't know, 184 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: but anyway, it was church. So he's talking about Jesus. 185 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: And then the woman ran out and then people that 186 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: sorry said something through her to the floor, and so 187 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: they picked her up and her friend ran out. After 188 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: they picked them up, brought them back to the dorm 189 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: and for a long time they were like praying and 190 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: trying to get Jesus out of that. My mom said that, um, there, 191 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: in the name of Jesus, I tell I tell you 192 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: to get out. And the woman who was trying to 193 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: invoke Jesus to get rid of the demon, like every 194 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: time she would go to say the name of Jesus, 195 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: her tongue would curl up and prevented saying it. And 196 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: then the luijiboard girl said in a voice that they 197 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: had never heard before, who is this Jesus? So it 198 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: turns out she was just possessed by gay black man 199 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: and that's pretty cool. Titus Burgess came down to Jamaica, 200 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: for weeks was possessing. Yeah, that's why. So she heard 201 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: this voice, that's what she says. And what did she 202 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: do after that? Did she run away? Was she? Did 203 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: she stay and watched the whole thing? Like? What was 204 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: her response? She watched the whole thing. And then they 205 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: ended up sending the girl to the hospital. And then 206 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: this was during like final exams time, so they canceled 207 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: exams the next day because nobody in the door and 208 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: really got any sleep because there was an exorcism going on. 209 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: Oh and I would have paid somebody to pretend to 210 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: be possessed during the middle of my finals. Sweet part 211 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: of me thinks, like, was it is that? What the 212 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: whole thing was? Like a study for the exam? You 213 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: know what, they can't make you take a test if 214 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: you feel with demons, I'm gonna pretend. I just pretend. 215 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: That's that's fucking nuts, And that's it's such a weird 216 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: to your point, that's such a weird thing for your 217 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: parents to be like anti the possibility of ghosts or 218 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: goblins or whatever it is, but fully committed to the 219 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: ghosts and goblins of religious text that like, it's in 220 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: essence the exact same thing it's just connected to a 221 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: book that they read versus the ones that they didn't. 222 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: It's it's almost like people fully believing in the Marvel 223 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: universe but being like Batman gets a funk out of here. 224 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: That ain't that ain't scripture. That ain't a part of 225 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: what I. I subscribe to him and I ironed me 226 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: and let's talk about that. But that means you in 227 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: the Book of Tony Stark three verse Jarvis. Okay, so 228 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: your parents tell you this. You said they didn't tell 229 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: you until you got older? Yeah, at what point or 230 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: was there a point where did you believe it? Were 231 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: you at all? Like? Oh, maybe I gotta be careful 232 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: about that. You know, the context of it was like 233 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: we were talking about things that we believed as kids, 234 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: and they came up in that context. So it's like, yeah, 235 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: this is a stupid thing. Oh so they were acknowledging 236 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: it's a stupid right, Okay, So that makes it a 237 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: little easier. It's not like you're having a reason with 238 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: your parents being like, you know, if you pointed a cemetary, 239 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: you gotta bite your fingers otherwise bad boy's gonna fall off, right. 240 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: It's like, why would you even tell me that. Just 241 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: say that from when I point at the cemetery, don't 242 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: it's like it's a snake bite, like we gotta come in, 243 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: but it's like all the glue back in. It doesn't 244 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: make sense. I don't know exactly what's happening with the fingers. Okay, 245 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: So so they tell you this as something that they 246 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: once believed. Did your parents grow up near each other. 247 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: Did they know each other at a young age? No? 248 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: I think around maybe college age is when they met. 249 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: So it's something that they heard independently of each other. 250 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: They lived kind of in the same area in Kingston, 251 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: but I don't think they knew each other growing up. Sure, 252 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: so it was enough they believed it enough that they 253 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: they're stuck in their memories independently. And then they both 254 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: were like, hey, by the way, you buy your fingers fingers, 255 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: and that's how they met. Let's build a family together. 256 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: We can make a little comedian musician baby together. Let's 257 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: do that. They put the rings on each other's fingers 258 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: with their mouths and bit the finger on the way. 259 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: I like the idea that your father put the ring 260 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: off first, and then your mom was like, you know 261 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: what to do and then you had to bite that 262 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: finger and it wasn't this actual thing, It was merely protection. Yeah, 263 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: for the possibility that your fingers fall off. I want 264 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: this ring to stay on for a long time. How much? 265 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, because if you grew up 266 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: in a pretty religious household, how much of that do 267 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: you follow today? Are you a religious person? Do you 268 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: believe in any of it? What stuck? If anything, I 269 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: think there's a like in times of like stress and fear, 270 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: it will come back, just like as a reflex. Sure. No, 271 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: it's like I can't find my keyth Lord if you 272 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: see them anywhere. Lord, please let this airplane stay all 273 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: the way up in the air and not do some 274 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: weird ship. Yeah. There was one Halloween where I went 275 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: to UM. I was coming back from Vancouver and I'm 276 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: on the plane and I'm I'm a nervous flyer. I 277 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: do not like it. And I looked and there was 278 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: a nun on the plane. I was like, okay, cool, 279 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: she's here. She's like she's a liaison. Were good, And 280 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: I remember it's Halloween, Like this lady could clear. So 281 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm just sitting there like quiet, like Lord, if that's 282 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: if she's with you cool. If she's not and you're 283 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: mad at her, just let my part of the plane 284 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: land somewhere, right, because that could have easily just been 285 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: a sinner. That could have been just a lady dressed 286 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: as a nun, which is blasphemous, which gives God every 287 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: reason to to flick your little airplane out of the sky, 288 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: has punishment for the what this bitch is doing. Exactly, 289 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: I didn't see the bottom have it could have been 290 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: all actually none, nobody just cross covered panties and you're like, oh, 291 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: thank God that this lady is here. I feel safe. Meanwhile, 292 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: you're going to hell. You're about to die. It's all. 293 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: It makes me so frustrated, even watching the way that 294 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: people behave on airplanes now, not even relation to just 295 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: religion necessarily, although I do think that for me, it's 296 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 1: like I believe that something's up there. I don't know 297 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: what to call it or how if the books that 298 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: we wrote have anything to do with it, but there's 299 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: certainly I don't think that we just came up with 300 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: us on our own. That said, they're like so many 301 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: people refuse to follow basic airplane rules, and it feels 302 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: like you like we're already spitting in God's face by 303 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: flying up here. And you know what I mean, Like 304 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: we're already breaking the rules. You don't, Yeah, close your 305 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: fucking laptop, you idiot, Like you don't don't do the 306 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: extra ship that even humans are Like, I I don't know, 307 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: this might be too far. We probably shouldn't do this one. 308 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: That's fucking crazy. How do you know better than the 309 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: people who are running the plane? Right? And I don't. 310 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: And to that point, I don't think that they know anything. 311 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: So if they're telling me, okay, if they start off 312 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: literally by being like, hey, y'all, here's what scares us, 313 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: that's maybe that's how they need to rephrase the whole 314 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: like airplane breakdown. Right, with all of our knowledge and 315 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: study and training, this is the thing that we're not 316 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: sure about. Yeah, would rattles my bones. That's when you 317 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: leave your cell phone on by the time we take off. 318 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: I don't know why, what's gonna happen? Maybe nothing, but 319 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: boy do I get nervous And I'd be like, all right, 320 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn my cell phone off. I would. I 321 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: would be more comfortable with a with a pilot who's like, hey, 322 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: I've been off the past couple of days just beat like, 323 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: let me know it, this is we're gonna be hitting 324 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: some terms. But hey, hey, whoa, who wasn't that crazy? Whoa? 325 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: That ship was all right? All right, we gotta take 326 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: a chill for us, like old on, I'm gonna land 327 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: this bad boy and just re resettle myself because that 328 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: was crazy. Comes on you just here, whoa, I ain't 329 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: even gonna lie. We got some ship coming up on 330 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: the radar that y'all ain't gonna funk with. And I 331 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: don't funk with it either. Anyway. Enjoy the peanuts and 332 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: uh and cocoa on your screens. We're only playing cocoa. Okay. 333 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: Last question, So you're not a particularly religious person, you're 334 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: not necessarily buying into their version of spirituality, at least 335 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: as in terms of the fingers falling off? Are there 336 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: any parts of things that they've said, like this that 337 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: you were like, Oh, I can get with that. I 338 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: see where that comes from, and I actually agree with that. 339 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's agreeing, but the whole demon thing, 340 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: like even though I don't know if I believe it's 341 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: it's just like the cell phone on the airplane. It's 342 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: like you know what. I don't know if they are 343 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: demons in here, but let me just say Jesus a 344 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: few times, just in case, so they know. I know. 345 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 1: It's like cocking cocking a shotgun. I like that. You 346 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: think Jesus is like beetlejuice, and if you say his 347 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: name or a certain number of times, he's just gonna 348 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: pop up and do cool shit. I think Jesus. I 349 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: think Jesus is busier, right, I just see that as 350 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: this page or number. I wanted to know that, Like, ay, 351 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: I called you, you could call me back, come back ready, 352 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: No rush, I get it. You're a busy dude. You 353 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: got holes in your feet, in your hands. But whenever 354 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: you're ready, just it's called me back. It's me Nick. 355 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: By the way, it's Nick, your part time servant. It's Nick, 356 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: the guy who only kind of believes in you. You know, 357 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: when it's convenient for me. Do you remember? All right, 358 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. We'll be back with more 359 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: Nick Chambers and more, my mama told me. And we 360 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: are back. Yeah, we're back here with more Nick Chambers more. 361 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: My mama told me. We're still talking about that. The 362 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: possibility of your fingers falling off sort of uh Dory 363 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: and Gray style. I guess if you point at a 364 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: cemetery just turned to ash because you didn't nip on 365 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: him right after you point. What do you think parents 366 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: were trying to get you from from doing with the 367 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: don't point at a cemetery because that's what a lot 368 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: of these old wives sales are cooked in, is like 369 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: allegories and lessons for being a better person. What's the 370 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: fear for a young person pointing at a cemetery. I 371 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: have no idea. I don't know. I don't know if 372 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: it's like like respecting the dead or uh, just pointing 373 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: in general, which is a long way to go to 374 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: just to get kids to not point. Yeah, i'd say 375 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: so you could have just said take your hat off 376 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: when we when we're around the grave. But as they 377 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: you're like view point before to god. Right. Somebody said 378 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: it was like if the if you point at a cemetery, 379 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: then the dead can see you and then they'll come 380 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: and get you with some like that. I don't know. Yeah, okay, 381 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: I could see that, like you're building it's like pointing 382 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: out a regular person almost where it's like you're opening communication. Yeah, yeah, now, 383 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: you're being rude, so now I gotta retaliate. And the dead, 384 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: I guess apparently are petty as ship and they're like 385 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: that motherfucker pointed at me. You cursed, bitch, you cursed. 386 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: All right, let's unpack some of this research. And we 387 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about the way that superstition 388 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: feels like it's it's sort of leading the way in 389 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: this one. And I wanted to do a little research 390 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: on like superstition as a as a belief system. How 391 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: many people actually believe in superstitions in general, And apparently 392 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: twenty five percent of Americans identify themselves as superstitious in 393 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: some way, shape or form. They say that, yes, I 394 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: would consider myself a superstitious person. That sounds about right. Okay, 395 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: hell yeah, it was over your life, you would say. 396 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: One and four people are like, ay, don't split that pole, 397 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: don't right. It's things like that or like with sports 398 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,479 Speaker 1: kind of things, for sure, I think right, And and 399 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: to that point, it's so cooked into even like the 400 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: way that our systems work, right, superstition is kind of 401 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: a part of everything. Like there's no floor in most 402 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 1: hotel rooms, and that's just because somebody decided that was 403 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: a bad number, and they were like, well, we can't 404 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: get guests to sleep here, so we'll just get rid 405 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: of the number. That's and it's still the thirteenth floor. 406 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: It's just a different number floor number. Yeah, it's like, bitch, 407 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: I know a fourteen eight means this ain't this ain't 408 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: a trick. This is just thirteen. And you're not telling 409 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: me that you think the bad luck is gonna get 410 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: lost in the hotel was looking for calling down to 411 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: the lobby like hey, I just I can't find my room. 412 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. The is the third time I've called, but 413 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: I just can't find my room. So yeah, even with that, 414 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: this is something fascinating I didn't realize. But there are 415 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: other superstitions that sort of follow that same trajectory in 416 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: other places, right, Like I think we we often have 417 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: a very Americanized view of like what numbers are bad 418 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: or rules and ship But in China the number four 419 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: is bad, Like they don't funk with the number four 420 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: at all. So like I imagine that there's a bunch 421 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 1: of things that they skip over with the number four 422 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: because they don't funk with that. Or for example, in Brazil, 423 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: this airline loof that loof Dans. I don't know how 424 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: to pronounce it. I'm not from there, But they don't 425 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: have a seventeenth row on their airline, right, But they 426 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: don't tell you that there're seventeen rows. They say it's 427 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: something else because they don't want people to think that, 428 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: you know, they're sitting seventeen because apparently seventeen is bad. 429 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: Does this say why these specific number? So did you 430 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: do you know why they pick these specific numbers? No? 431 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: I mean I think it's similar to us, where it 432 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: just sort of like is a a old legend that 433 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: bills and then it's less about them actually believing it 434 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: and more about them preparing for people who do believe it. Right, 435 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: It's a lot of these companies are just like saying like, look, 436 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: I don't give a funk, I just want your money. 437 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: But it does it's easier to get your money if 438 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: you're not sitting there going I refuse to sit in 439 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: the thirteenth row or the seventeenth row or whatever it is. 440 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: I do really love the idea of there being a 441 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: a Brazilian Friday the seventeen, which but just Brazilian Jason 442 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: running around murdering people or Michael Myers. I thought, yeah, 443 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: just Michael Myers with the airhorn. The mask is all 444 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 1: colorful with the feathers and instead of the air it's 445 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: just there's beautiful feathers just dancing towards you. He's wearing 446 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: a mesh tank top. It looks good. Michael Myers looks good. 447 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: Miguel Meyers, No, I don't know. I don't know Portuguese, 448 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: I don't know Virgilian Portuguese, but I bet there's a 449 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: Miguel down there. Miguel Myers looks great. Okay, so uh. 450 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: Superstition apparently derives from the assumption that a connection exists 451 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: between cocurring, non related events, basically meaning that if my 452 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: fingers fall off after I pointed a cemetery, it's easy 453 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: to point at the cemetery and blame that instead of examining, 454 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: for example, why the funk I have leprosy? You know 455 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, where did this leopardsy come from? 456 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: And how did I get that as an adult? It's 457 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: just someone trying to hide their leprosy from their friends. 458 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: I I don't have leprosies. Just look at that cemetery 459 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: over there. Oh god, oh man, the devil, don't got me. Demons, 460 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: those cursed demons stole my fingers. Yeah, I think it's 461 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: such a fascinating thing because at the end of the day, 462 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: so much of superstition and so much of conspiracy theory. 463 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: And this is something that the research sort of shows 464 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: is that it's often connected to people's want for control, 465 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: right that, like, you live in this uncontrollable environment. Everything 466 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: is is chaotic and mayhem, and the easiest way to 467 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: make sense of that chaos and mayhem is to say, like, Okay, 468 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: here's a rule that I know how to follow. Here's 469 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: the thing that I know. If I do this, at 470 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: least I feel in charge of the whole thing, like 471 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: they even said, like and some of the research I 472 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: saw that that, uh, in Germany, between nineteen eighteen and 473 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: nineteen forty, the measures of economic threat correlated directly with 474 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: the measures of superstition. That like, superstition was going up, 475 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: because between nineteen eighteen and nineteen forty, they the money 476 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: was fucked up in Germany right there. Post World War One, 477 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: pre World War Two, they're still like rebuilding as a country, 478 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: and so they're being hyper superstitious and ship right, So 479 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: who who is keeping track of the superstition number. I'm 480 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: superstitious about that. Sure, yeah, okay, I'm here. I wasn't 481 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: why what you're throwing down? But why? Why is that 482 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: a thing that you've paid attention to, or how specifically 483 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: during the time when a bunch of Jews are being killed? Like, 484 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: why are you so focused on superstition right now when 485 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: you could be helping your neighbors. Right, we don't want 486 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: to print all that stuff. Let's print about the superstitions. 487 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: Let's run that story first. Hey, hey, stop writing about 488 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: these Jews. Man, don't you see all these black cats? 489 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: Every Let's focus that's bad cats. I do a killer 490 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: German impression. I don't know if because come look at 491 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: the black cats. Mad just I love I just love language. 492 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: That's my thing. Turkey isn't a German phrase. They're talking 493 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: about actual turkey. Yeah, at the time, black people turned 494 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: it into turned it into a cultural something else. But 495 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: now they were talking about an actual turkey named jive. 496 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: He was unlike in the German community. One of the 497 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,239 Speaker 1: things that I ended up finding in a lot of 498 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: the research that I was unpacking is that there's actually 499 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: quite a few other cemetery based conspiracy theories. In fact, 500 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: I found a website that listed nearly like a hundred 501 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: of them. I've listed one of my favorites, and I 502 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: would love to get your reaction on a few of these. 503 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: But one of them was being first to leave a 504 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: cemetery after a funeral could bring you death. You'll die 505 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: if you leave first. Yep, if you leave that funeral first, 506 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: you might die. I mean we're already here. Yeah, Well, 507 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: it's a scary thing to tell somebody, like, you know, 508 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: if you leave version, you don't die, right. You know 509 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: what it was? It was a very unlike person on 510 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: their deathbed, like, you know, if you leave my funeral first, 511 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: you go, there's a bunch of annoyed people standing around 512 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: this grave like you about to leave. But I think 513 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: that's there's something really really insightful in what you're saying. 514 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: Is that so much of this while we make it 515 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: something dramatic or something, you know, like something that's affecting 516 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: the whole world, the reality is it's something that affected 517 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: a few individuals, and they are so selfish and and 518 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: sort of like self centered in all of this that 519 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: they then make it a rule for everybody to follow. 520 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: You know what I mean you, we don't all have 521 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: to throw salt over our shoulder. You did, dog, you 522 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: deal with You live in that salt needing life right right. 523 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: You're the one with the saltless back. You deal with 524 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: that ship. You got this unsalted back, My back as 525 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: salty as funk. I'm fine. I don't need none of that. 526 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: My shoulder plays of saltines, But tell me these ain't 527 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: salty in my Here's another one that I thought was 528 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: really interesting. They say, locking the door of your home 529 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: after a funeral procession passes by is bad luck at 530 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: what point, like as it's going by or later that day, 531 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: just I believe they said. After which that part bugged 532 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: me in the same way that they seemed to be 533 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: bugging you, where it's like, okay, so I just gotta 534 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: keep my door unlocked always. Now that feels a little 535 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: like I used to watch the show True Blood. It's 536 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: the whole vampire like they could only come in if 537 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: you get invited. That seems like some backwards, like the 538 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: ghosts can't operate a locked door after the possession, like 539 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: leave it open for right, So they're saying, hey, just 540 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: leave it open, let the ghost in, and then they'll 541 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: leave you alone. But if you lock that door, they'll 542 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: be piste and they'll want vengeance. Here's my personal favorite. 543 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: A witch. This is a real supercision. A witch must 544 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: be buried face down to prevent the community further supernatural spells. 545 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: If this doesn't want work, unbury them and turn their 546 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: clothes inside out, then rebury them face down. Say that, 547 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: let's part again. Sure a witch. If you're gonna bury 548 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: a which, you gotta bury your face down. That's that's 549 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 1: what they're saying. And if you funk up and don't 550 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: do that, you gotta dig her up, turn her clothes 551 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: inside out, and then rebury her face down. Take your 552 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: time with it. There's no there's no correct answer here. 553 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: I'll be frank with you. It's again. I think it's 554 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: just somebody got caught in a situation where they were 555 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: digging up a lady. She was a witch. That's why 556 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: she's naked because I had to turn It's just somebody 557 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: in Salem, right. This is a man. This is a 558 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: sick man who dug up a lady and wanted to 559 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: fuck took her clothes off. Let's be honest. It was 560 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: a man who was fucking corpses and somebody somebody walked 561 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: up and was like, Hey, why the funk are you 562 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: sticking your dick and that lady's butt? And you're like, 563 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: oh what, Oh no, she'll witch. I gotta bury her 564 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: face down and turn her clothes inside out. That's why 565 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: she naked and my dick is inside of her. I 566 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: had a much more wholesome idea that it's like a 567 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: local dressmaker and he's trying to get his name out there, 568 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: so he buried them. So the tag is out on 569 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: the back, so you buried them, and people, Oh, this 570 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: is let's go to listen. She dead, but she looked good. 571 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: I'm wanting to that was this tagline. She did, but 572 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:35,959 Speaker 1: she looked good. Okay. The other thing that I sort 573 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: of wanted to look into in terms of these theories 574 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: around cemeteries is that it seems to be often be 575 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: connected to threat of death and decay, right, which I 576 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: have to assume comes from our history of terrible like 577 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: burial practices and diseases that sometimes follow those burial practices. 578 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: If you've watched any like old tiny television, you know 579 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: these motherfucker's didn't watch their hands. They weren't like cleaning 580 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: up properly after bodies. And I wanted to sort of 581 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: like unpack, like what is our actual history with like clean, 582 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: effective burial practices. And apparently there are example, horrible examples. 583 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: There's a this ancient city in Turkey. I'm not even 584 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 1: gonna pretend to pronounce this name, but it was not 585 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: you know, the city of Jive, Turkey. Uh, nine thousand 586 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: years ago, people used to bury their beloved under their 587 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: houses as an attempt to separate themselves from their ancests 588 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: or not separate themselves or out there from their ancestors 589 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: emotionally or physically or smell. Yes, you just have a 590 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: rotting corpse buried underneath your home because you want to 591 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 1: be connected. Yeah, that's so, just as many people in 592 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: your family died that under that's right, and I have 593 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: there was some more people are dying because of this rotting, 594 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 1: festering corpse underneath your home. And this is in what 595 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: what is this? This was nine thousand years ago? So 596 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: according to some people, the earth didn't exist yet, but 597 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: according to it was BC. Let's just agree it was 598 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: BC before before. And you know what, that's how they 599 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: get that's how they get you before coffience is how 600 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: you end up getting murdered by time. I guess I 601 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: don't know, all right. This is another one that was 602 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: pretty wild. It said that in some parts of ancient Greece, 603 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: people used to put iron nails across the dead bodies 604 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 1: to prevent an eventual undesired resurrection. Basically like, in order 605 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: to prevent zombies from rising, they would basically nail parts 606 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: of the body to the coffin, into the ground or 607 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: to the ground, whatever it was. But you know, ship's 608 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: gotta be juice, gotta be popping about that nail, you 609 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean, It's gonna squirt right when we 610 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: hit that nail in there. I've opened a caprice son 611 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 1: before I know. So you're nailing the person to the coffin. Yeah, 612 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: just in case the zombifying and get back up. But 613 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: can't they just like I've seen zombie movies where they 614 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: just whatever part of them is stuck, they just ripped 615 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 1: that part off and keep coming. Yeah, well that's not 616 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: what they believed in ancient Greece. Apparently an iron nail 617 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 1: was enough for a zombie to be like, oh damn, 618 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: they got I was gonna eat their brains. But never mind, 619 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: that's cool, smart y'all, smart o y'all going to ben 620 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: math or something that's cool. Right, And also, if you're 621 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: coming from a time where you've been hearing stories about 622 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: Jesus and Lazarus, people coming back to life is not 623 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: too far fetched, I suppose, right, sure, they believed in resurrection, 624 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 1: and for them it was it was more of which 625 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: resurrections they liked and which ones they didn't. I guess 626 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: they preferred certain resurrections over others. Who do you want 627 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: to come back for another season? It was it was 628 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: really American Idol study style voting to keep you underground 629 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 1: or or around underground or around next year on Grecian television. Okay, 630 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: this is the last piece of research that I sort 631 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: of wanted to dig into because I do think that 632 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: that left that leprosy and sort of like these conversations 633 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,919 Speaker 1: around like where so many of these conspiracies comes from 634 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: is valid, right that, like a lot of it is 635 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 1: diseases and sicknesses that we then blow up into something 636 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: more extreme. And it turns out in my research, I 637 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: found out that leopard see actually still exists in Jamaica 638 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: today in this day and age. A lot to be 639 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: proud of of your home country. But come on, but 640 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: if fairly in five cases of leprosy were found in 641 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: Jamaica alone, which I didn't even know was still a thing, 642 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I mean, I guess if 643 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: you're wearing so many mess shirts, it's too much bacteria 644 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 1: falling in and out. You gotta cover some of that. 645 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: All that daggering, somebody's gonna catch, right, you dagger till 646 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: somebody's fingers fall along to the pieces to make a 647 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: dance out of that. Yeah, I dropped the finger that. 648 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take one more break. We'll be 649 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: back with more Nick Chambers and more, my mama told me. 650 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: And we are back you know, no, no, no, yeah, 651 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: we're back here with more Nick Chambers more. My mama 652 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: told me. We're still talking about the horrors of leprosy 653 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 1: that seemed to be overtaking Jamaica and the silly conspiracy 654 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 1: theories that Nick's family came up with to help explain 655 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: the fact that in leprosy still exists in I know, 656 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 1: I thought that was a Bible disease and nothing else. 657 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm amazed. I'm shocked. Yeah, is anyone is Sean Paul 658 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: on this in raising money. I love that. You know 659 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: how a con is an Africa helping people get like 660 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: electricity and building hospitals and shipped. I would love it 661 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: if Sean Paul just dedicated all his energy to leprosy. 662 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: That's it, he's gonna get rid of it. Don't touch. 663 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: This music has changed. He used to touch all the time, 664 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: but now he's like, don't, don't do it. It's got 665 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: social distancing. Jamaican dance hall music man Daggering from Afar 666 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 1: made my FaceTime. All right, let's play a game. This 667 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: is a very fun game that I like to play. 668 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: You know it, you love it. It's a game called 669 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 1: White Ugly. You're disgusting. I'm gonna kill you. Give me 670 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: two alright, white lies. This is a fun game where Nick, 671 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to introduce to you a widely held conspiracy 672 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 1: theory in the white community, conspiracy theory that many whites 673 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 1: seem to believe in. And what I would love for 674 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 1: you to do is unpack why you think this conspiracy 675 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 1: theory is so important to white people. What do you 676 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: think it is that they believe in? What are these 677 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: sneaky motherfucker's up to you give what I'm saying the 678 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: conspiracy theory for you, And this is a new one 679 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: for me. I had not heard this before, but apparently 680 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 1: there's a fair amount of people who believe that the 681 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: Queen of England is a cannibal, that she that she 682 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: eats humans, and that is how she maintained for this 683 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: long that she's now whatever, ninety five years old, and 684 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: part of the way that she stayed so youthful and 685 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: stayed in power is by eating the flesh of other 686 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: human beings. My question for you, why do you think 687 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: that white people think that the Queen Elizabeth the second 688 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 1: is a cannibal? Well, when you say white people, I'm 689 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: gonna assume you mean white men. Sure, so I think 690 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: for an a white man to see a white woman 691 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: or any woman in power, there's got to be something. 692 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: There's got to be something wrong with her. She gotta 693 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: be do something, doing some evil. So there's no King's 694 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: how that gotta be right? That is that, like you know, 695 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 1: Philip would be the king. But the bitch keep telling her, 696 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 1: telling them she gonna eat them, keep saute and her 697 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: servants keep Philip be like cool, I just back off. 698 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 1: She's crazy. You want to be king, but she won't 699 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: let him because she's crazy. It's it's crazy. It's wild 700 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 1: out there in England. Which which fork is the human fork? 701 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: The way they said they have the whole spread? Which 702 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,240 Speaker 1: for it? That's the one she keep in her pocket. 703 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: That's a private fort, you know what I mean. It's 704 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: strapped to her thigh guard a boat. This one's as 705 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: the one she waits till like a door get shut 706 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 1: too quick, and it's like just one of those slaves 707 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,280 Speaker 1: that they don't call slaves no more in there because 708 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: they're slaves. I'm watching the crown right now, and that's slavery. 709 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: I don't give a funk what they say, right, I 710 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 1: don't care how many trumpets you put before. It's exactly it. 711 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,839 Speaker 1: I walk into a room and then another, like a 712 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 1: more important person comes into the room, and I bow, 713 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,760 Speaker 1: and they go, get the funk out of here, bitch, 714 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 1: and I gotta just scurry off. I'm forty. No, I'm 715 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 1: a slave. If I'm forty and I gotta scurry, I'm 716 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 1: a slave. If words have make you run out the room, yeah, 717 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 1: words from an old lady. Yeah, let's let's look if 718 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: this is a job like you keep telling me it is. 719 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,280 Speaker 1: Let's make this a professional setting. Give me an HR, 720 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: give me a somebody that that can answer my concerns. 721 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: But if you're gonna make me scurry, then just admit 722 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 1: I'm a slave, and let's let's move forward. Honestly, exactly, 723 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:13,839 Speaker 1: there's no Her Majesty's hr. Yes and frankly, and I'm 724 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 1: willing to start this conspiracy theory. Now, I'm not unconvinced 725 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: that the Queen isn't sexually assaulting a fair amount of 726 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: those uh servants, know what I mean. That's why she 727 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 1: aliveed so long. She got that what she's still she's 728 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,359 Speaker 1: she's she's just stand in the hallway and you gotta bow. 729 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: It's like further down, keep bowing, not low enough, you 730 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: know where I like it. And then when she's done, 731 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: she rings a bell and that servant gotta scurry out, 732 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 1: fucking nutcase, bring me the scurrying bell. I'm clum clog. 733 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 1: I do to think there's so much of this history 734 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: that that is it's absurd and it's cooked in the 735 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 1: weird thing within. This goes back to your point with 736 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: the monarchy, is that they are almost being progressive, right, 737 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 1: They're almost introducing this idea that a woman can be 738 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 1: in charge of an entire country before a lot of 739 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 1: other places are willing to do that, which you could 740 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,879 Speaker 1: argue as a cool thing, But even in doing that, 741 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 1: there's so much undermining that happens in placing this woman 742 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: in this position of power. So she's not truly in charge. 743 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 1: She's just a figurehead that puts on army clothes sometimes, 744 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 1: but it's not You're not actually this powerful figure. And 745 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: so to your point, there's probably a bunch of dudes 746 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,399 Speaker 1: who are sitting back like, you know, the bitch don't 747 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 1: do nothing. We were the real power is the man, 748 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 1: but they the only explanation is she eat kids or 749 00:48:54,400 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: whatever it is. That's yeah, it's surely nuts. Well, Nick, 750 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 1: I think we did it. I think we we nailed 751 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: this episode. I think I think that was what a 752 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 1: beautiful time. Could you tell the people at home where 753 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 1: they can find you, what cool stuff do you have 754 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: going on? Sure? I'm Chambers Comedy on social media. Do 755 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: a podcast with Towanda Gonna called Towandah's Life Requests where 756 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 1: we uh it's a musical advice shows and people come 757 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 1: in with situations that they're going through into one to 758 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 1: prescribe them a song to listen to to help them 759 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 1: with that situation. Hell yeah, it's a beautiful time. Nick 760 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 1: is a beautiful man. The artwork is beautiful, the music 761 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 1: is beautiful. Please go and follow him, and as always, 762 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 1: like and subscribe. I would like for more people to 763 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 1: like and subscribe to this thing. Apparently you got to 764 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,360 Speaker 1: say that to people. But please like and subscribe and 765 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,839 Speaker 1: write comments. I like the comments. They make me feel good. 766 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 1: I read and check for him every day, despite the 767 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 1: fact that that seems like a psychopathic way of living. 768 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,319 Speaker 1: I I go on there every day hoping there's a 769 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 1: new comment for me to read. And I would love 770 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: to read yours. Uh, And it's always. 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