1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Hey, Chuck, yo, we're in the present time, yes, which 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: means that we need to take this opportunity to do 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of an intro for the episode. Everybody's 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: about to hear because it's a yeah, this has never 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: happened us before. But you said, hey, I thought we 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: already recorded one on Crystal Skulls. Yeah, I think you're right, 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: and Jerry went, oh, it's right here in my desk drawer. 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: We forgot to publish it. Yeah, so this is a 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: long lost episode and we decided to publish it anyway, 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 1: and just with a little caveat because it might. I'm 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: sure there's some stuff that sounds stated. It stated right 12 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: off the bat. We talked about whether the world's gonna 13 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: end or knowledge it doesn't as well, that's kind of 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: the dead giveaway. There's some dating to it. But yeah, 15 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: so it's a lost episode. And thanks to whoever it 16 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: was on Twitter that suggested a Crystal Skulls episode, because 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: that's what started this whole thing in the in the 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: first place. Well you certainly gave them their due, but 19 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: calling them whoever it was, thanks whoever? Alright, so cool, 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: So here we go with Crystal Skulls Welcome to Stuff 21 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: you Should Know from house stuff Works dot com. Hey, 22 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck, 23 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god, everything's coming to it, and Brian that 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: makes this stuff you should know? Right? How you doing? 25 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: I shouldn't even ask. My life is a little upside 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: down right now. I'll be all right. It's not like 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: it's my in and it's twenty twelve or anything. Well, 28 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: we've already done that one. And I guess we know 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: that the the world isn't necessarily gonna end in twenty twelve, 30 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: so that kind of presupposes how we feel about this podcast. 31 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: I guess right. That's actually but let me let me 32 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: give some news first. And you know this because you 33 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: found this and it's literally today's news. Yeah, that has 34 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: done often happen. Yeah. Um, but we're talking about crystal skulls. 35 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: And there was a piece on crystal skull that was 36 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: found recently in a home in a Bavarian village. Um 37 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: and this crystal skull, it weighs I think nine pounds. Um, 38 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: it's life size. No, it was nearly twenty pounds. It's 39 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: life size, maybe a little bigger. Uh. It matches the 40 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: death's head insignia worn by Nazi SS officers UM, which 41 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: is appropriate because this crystal skull apparently belonged to Heinrich Himmler, 42 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: that's right, who was the chief of the s S. Yeah, 43 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: and I wrote an article we should podcast on that 44 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: sometime about the Nazis interest in archaeology. They were like 45 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: all the Indiana Jones stuff was right on the money. 46 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: They had all sorts of programs, archaeology programs basically to 47 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: try and prove through historical research that the Aryan race 48 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: was superior. Right, Yes, that was behind it all. And 49 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: supposedly the UM the Nazi Party arose from some sort 50 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: of kind of like UM good time sex cult that 51 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: like all of the people who were eventually like the 52 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: head of the Nazi Party were members of Hitler comes 53 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: along as like, you guys are freaks, but I'm going 54 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: to use this to my advantage and bada boomboada being 55 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: under fere and everything starts to go horribly horribly awry. 56 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: But back to UM Today's news, a crystal skull was found, 57 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: which is a very unusual thing, and it was found 58 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: hidden on a rafter in the attic of this house. 59 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: In Bavaria. Um that belonged to a woman who had 60 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: been married to a high ranking SS officer, and it's 61 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 1: now in the possession of Swiss journalist Luke Bergen. Yeah, 62 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: he makes quite a claim. He claims that quote, I 63 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: am sure that this is one of the skulls of 64 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: the Mayans, but we need clarity and all available tests 65 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: will be carried out to ascertain authenticity. So what what 66 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: Luke um Bergen has just said is that he's about 67 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: to be very very disappointed. It's spoken like a man 68 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: who just got his first crystal skull. Yeah, exactly, and 69 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: it's done zero research on it. Basically, Um, the the 70 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: prevailing chuck, we should hold on. Let's bring spring sarcasm down. Uh. 71 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: The the the legend behind the crystal skulls, and anybody 72 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: who has not seen crystal skulls type them into your 73 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: favorite search engine and um find an image and you'll 74 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: be like, oh, yeah, crystal skull, crystal skull. Um. The 75 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: there's supposedly thirteen of them that were crafted by the 76 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: Mayans um and they were scattered throughout the globe and 77 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: um nine of them were colored to represent the races 78 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: of man, and then four of them were clear to 79 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: represent the animals that crawl, walk, slither, slides, and fly, 80 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: um and you. Basically, the world's supposed to end on 81 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: December twenty one at eleven eleven am. And if the 82 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: these thirteen skulls aren't reunited, discovered and reunited in a 83 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: specific alignment I would imagine probably at some sort of 84 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: Mayan temple um, then the world will end. If we 85 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: can get them aligned in this proper alignment by this time, 86 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: we can prevent the world from ending. The problem is, though, Josh, 87 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot more than thirteen of these things floating 88 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: around the world. Yes, and so there's some doubts as 89 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: to their legitimacy and if it depending on what this 90 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: skull looks like. I don't know if the The Daily 91 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: Mirror was the news source that you got this from. 92 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: It they're not exactly They're tabloid. There are tabloids tabloid actually, well, 93 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: I believe that this skull was found, I'm sure, But 94 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: the picture that they've used, I don't know if that's 95 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: the skull that was supposedly found or whatever. But um, 96 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: there are some telltale signs that a skull might be 97 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: a fake, that it could be real. Let's start digging in, Chuck, 98 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: Let's dig into crystal skulls. Uh. Well, they can vary 99 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: in size and appearance. Some of them are sort of 100 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: crudely shaped. Some of them are really detailed. Some of 101 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: them are beautiful and clear. Some of them are hazy 102 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: and colored. Some of them have detached jaws, some of 103 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: them do not. Some of them have I sockets, some 104 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: of them don't write. That's just a brief off for you. 105 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: That's there's crystal skulls of the appearance, and some people 106 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: believe that they are, you know, from the ancient Mayans, 107 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: descendants of the h what's the underwater Atlantis? Atlantis? Is 108 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: that where the minds came from? Some people say that, 109 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: some say they're a direct ascens of of Atlantis, But 110 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: I don't know. So this, this whole idea that the 111 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: the Mayans creating crystal skulls, or that these crystal skulls 112 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: are of Mayan descent, are based somewhat on fact the 113 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: Miyands did. Um they do reference crystal skulls in their 114 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: creation myth. Yeah, So I mean like that's not like 115 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: somebody's like crystal skull and Maya. There's there's there's definitely 116 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: a legitimate connection between the two. But whether the crystal 117 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: skulls that are in existence right now are Mayan in 118 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: origin is what what's up for debate and not really 119 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: up for debate, and whether or not they have they're 120 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: a rumor to have healing properties. Um, the visions like 121 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: a crystal ball that you can see into the future, 122 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: into the past. It's like a crystal ball but cooler. 123 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: What else is there they say they can do? They 124 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: make sounds, yes, choir, I think it's mainly healing and visions. 125 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: That's pretty good ones enlightenment of some sort. Um. The 126 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: but the world of crystal skulls that when you start 127 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: to kind of dig into it is what It doesn't 128 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: really matter what you believe. It's a really interesting world 129 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: filled by almost caricatures of people, adventurers and broadsters and bucksters. 130 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: To talk about him. Yeah, so let's let's start with um, 131 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: I guess the most famous crystal skull of all the 132 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: Mitchell Hedges skull. This one kind of set the tone 133 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: for most other Basically, the Mitchell Hedges said, this is 134 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: what Crystal Skull study is going to be all about. 135 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: We're going to provide all the character for it and 136 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: everybody else following our footsteps. Okay, that's right. And supposedly 137 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: it was discovered and we're gonna say allegedly and supposedly 138 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: a lot because these stories are not verified as fat 139 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: and out of reverence for a dead one year old 140 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: woman who Anna, she's dead now A seven? Really yeah, 141 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: that's a bummer. Uh yeah. So it was discovered allegedly 142 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: in the nineteen twenties by who we just referenced, Anna 143 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: Mitchell Hedges, who is the adopted daughter of F. A. 144 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: Mitchell Hedges World Adventurer. Yeah and he really was too. Yeah, 145 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: from the from the sounds of it, he was. Um. 146 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: She says that she found the skull beneath the Mayan 147 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: temple at an Altar and uh lu Batan. He pronounced 148 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: that that's what I took. Have you seen the pictures 149 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: of that place, like a ruined Mayan city and believes 150 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: it's awesome. It's like overgrown temples and stuff like that. 151 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: It's very neat, I like the mind temples. So anyway, 152 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: Anna says that she found this thing near Belize on 153 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: her seventeenth birthday, and she said that the Mayan's actually 154 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: told her that it was a skull used to will 155 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,599 Speaker 1: death so a priest would be too old to continue 156 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: his priesting and he would lie down and transfer his 157 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: knowledge to a younger priest via the powers of the 158 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: skull and then die. Right. So that's her story. That's 159 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: what the skull was for. That's what she says, um, 160 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: and said, sorry, that's right. So the and the Mitchell 161 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: Hedges skull is like the it's a trendsetting skull in 162 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: another way in that it's pretty much the pinnacle of 163 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: craftsmanship of crystal skulls. It's clear courts crystal is very pretty. Um, 164 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: it's life size, um. It had it's about five inches high, 165 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: five inches wide, eight inches long, UM. Totally transparent, twelve 166 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 1: pounds UM. It's got the the ridges and cheekbones and 167 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: nose socket and eye sockets that are like very anatomically correct. 168 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: And as far as I know, it's the only one 169 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: that has a detachable jawbone, which is really anatomically correct. 170 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: Like this is just an amazing work of art, you know, 171 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: and that's how they should be viewed. Josh, right, did 172 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: I just ruin it? Do you want to poke some 173 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: holes in Anna's story? Yeah? Um, First of all, in 174 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: nineteen thirty six, m a description of this skull was 175 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: in a British journal called Man, but they said it 176 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: was owned by a guy named Sydney. Bernie Anna says, 177 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: oh no wait, my dad Um f A UM gave 178 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: it to Sydney and he um auctioned it off to 179 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: pay a debt in the in the forties and then 180 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: we bought it from Sotheby's from him to get it 181 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: back in the family, right like it came down to 182 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: the wire at the Southebeast all. So basically what you 183 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: can take from that story is that f A. Mitchell 184 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: Hedges acquired this Mitchell Hedges skull at South Beast. That 185 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: part is completely documentable and um but that they they 186 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: think that that may be where he got it for 187 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: the first time, probably because in that nineteen thirty six journal, 188 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: Um the the author, I guess Bernie UM wrote a 189 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: letter that was I'm sorry it was quoted later, but 190 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: but Um Bernie, the guy who actually had that Mitchell 191 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: Hedges skull before Mitchell Hedges, said that he acquired it 192 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: from a collector who had it for several years, and 193 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: Um that collector bought it from another collector who had 194 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: it for several years. No mention of F. A. Mitchell, 195 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: who was not a collector, he was an adventurer. He 196 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: probably called it the Bernie Skull to Yeah, I'm sure 197 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: and um so that that that was in nineteen thirty three, 198 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: which by this time F. A. Mitchell had just supposedly 199 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: already had it or owned it. Um and then the 200 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: other well, there's several other weird parts. Uh Mitchell hedges 201 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: fa we'll just call him or faugh um he he 202 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: only wrote about the skull once. This is my favorite 203 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: part of this article. In the name of his book taken. 204 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: He wrote a book about his adventures, I guess, some 205 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: sort of memoir and it was called danger My ally 206 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: that's the way you say it too. And that was 207 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: from nine fifty four, I think. And in that book 208 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: that's the first and only mentioned he makes of the 209 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: crystal skull. By this time it was in his possession, 210 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: he owned it. Seems like he would have mentioned it, 211 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: yeah prior to this he he um. He says chuck 212 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: that it dates back at least thirty six hundred years, 213 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: that it took about a hundred and fifty years to 214 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: rub down with sand from a single block of courts. 215 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: So he alleges it was not it was shaped from 216 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: rubbing sand on it and not actually carved with tools 217 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: over the period of a hundred and fifty years, which 218 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: I mean that's a lot of dedicated people, a lot 219 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: of sand rubbing. Yeah. Um. He never mentions that his 220 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: adopted daughter find found it. He actually says that he 221 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: has reason to not mention how it came in his possession. Yeah. 222 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: He warns very forebodingly about several people have cynically laughed 223 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: at it and died. Others have been stricken ill. So 224 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: he says, how I got it, I have reasons to 225 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: not tell you. This is a really easy way to 226 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: get around not telling people. Um, that's what That's what 227 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: we should say whenever somebody wants to know, like, what's 228 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: what's your backstory? How did you guys meet? We have 229 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: reasons to not tell you. We have very important reason 230 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: because it's very important. Um. And then also, Chuck, there 231 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: were two people so f a Mitchell head just did 232 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: actually go down to lu Batan and he was there 233 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: in that's documented. There's plenty of photos of the dig 234 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: two friends who went with them, who later wrote about this. 235 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: This experience never mentioned Anna being there certainly never mentioned 236 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: the crystal skull. Yeah. Lady Richmond Brown and Dr Thomas 237 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: Gan and then lastly Anna Um in different interviews, gave 238 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: different dates of when she acquired the skull, never the 239 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: correct one. So um, there's a lot of holes in 240 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: her story. Yet up to her deaths she alleged that 241 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: this was the truth. Um. And she had what I 242 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: take to be an indomitable spirit, like you could tell 243 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: her just about anything, but she knew what was right 244 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: with the crystal skull. Yeah. And she also claimed um 245 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: not verified, but claimed that it had been used for 246 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: healing a number of times and she didn't get very 247 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: specific with that, and that she hoped one day it 248 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: would go to an institution where it could be studied 249 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: and that might happen. Um. If you go on to 250 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: Mitchell Hedges skull dot com or Mitchell Hedges dot com, 251 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: I think there's a hyphen in there, not Benson and Hedges. Um. 252 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: The The skull is now in the possession of its 253 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: newest owner, Bill Hollman, who is very dashing guy, likes 254 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: to wear like in Indiana Jones hat Um. He loves 255 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: posing with the crystal skull. It's very cool. But his 256 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: aim is to build a museum for the skull in Sedona, Arizona, 257 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: so they can be study ead and and basically be 258 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: available to the public all the time, which is pretty cool. 259 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: Where he would sell tickets, I don't know. I'm sure 260 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: he would. Who knows. There's not a free museum. Actually 261 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: that's not true. It's plenty of free museums. I take 262 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: that back completely, okay, but there's plenty that aren't as well. 263 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: I agree with you. So that's what that's what's going 264 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: on with the Mitchell Hedges skull right now. Bill Hollman 265 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: has it here in the US, and there may be 266 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: Ah well, I don't know if it will be reunited. 267 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: Surely people who own crystal skulls are going to take 268 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: them to Mexico or something in November. See what happens. Right, 269 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: Um So, Mitchell Heades skull is is the most famous, 270 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: but it's far from the only one, right, Yeah, there's 271 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: one another famous one in the British Museum, and I 272 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: believe they just called this the British Museum skull, right, Yeah, 273 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: it's kind of let down. They called the Paris skull 274 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: the Paris skull, and it's also life size. It's not 275 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: quite as detailed as the Mitchell hedges, and the jaw 276 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: does detach as you say, and it's cloudy courts. It's 277 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: not completely clear. And this was purchased. We know a 278 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: little bit about the real back story on this one. 279 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: It was purchased by the museum from Tiffany and Company 280 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: in supposedly came from Mexico. And here is where we 281 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: have a guy entered the picture named Eugene Bouban. Yeah, 282 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: he's kind of an important character as well. Yeah, he's 283 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: a French art dealer and a lot of these skulls 284 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: seemed to have passed through his ownership at one point 285 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: or another, which isn't necessarily fishing in and of itself. 286 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: Like a dealer can specialize in something, and Boban specialized 287 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: in Mayan relics another and the pre Columbian stuff. So yeah, 288 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: it's not like that makes it hinky. I'm just pointing 289 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: that out. Then you got the pair of skull and 290 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: it's a more crude still than the other two and 291 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: has a hole cut in the top that they think 292 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: it is supposed to hold across. Yes, and that is 293 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: in Paris at the a You're gonna pronounce that one 294 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: for me, the muse de lom okay, the Museum of 295 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: the Museum of Man. Is that what it is? Do 296 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: you speak French? Um, I'm piquito. I used to do that. 297 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: It took German in high school and then learned just 298 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: sort of rough Spanish by working in the Mexican restaurants. 299 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: And I would always mixed German and Spanish up in 300 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: my college days. I was mixing up a lot back 301 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: then though, anyway. Uh. And then in this one's a 302 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: little weird in the Smithsonian received a crystal skull in 303 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: the mail anonymous Yeah, with an anonymous note that said, hey, 304 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: this is Aztec. I bought it in nineteen sixty in 305 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: Mexico City and do what you will with it. Brought 306 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: me nothing but bad luck. Yeah, maybe please don't ever 307 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: try to track me down. And that one is hollow, 308 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: which is slightly unique as well. Yeah. Um, so here's 309 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: there's a couple of points that you've just brought up. 310 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: One Eugene boban remember um um. Secondly, this anonymous skull 311 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: is thought to be as Tech or was mentioned as Aztec. 312 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: The British Museum skull is possibly considered as tech possibly, 313 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: so that kind of knocks the mayan Um legend out 314 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: a little bit. Let's do that some more. Okay, um, Well, 315 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: first let's talk about some more um crystal skulls real quick. 316 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: There's there's uh again, there's a whole world of crystal 317 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: skull collectors and some people have a few, some people 318 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: have one, but all of them are pretty like if 319 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: you have a crystal skull, like you're a well known individual. Yeah, 320 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: it's not like a being a commemorative plate collector, right 321 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: like Joanne Parks who owns Max the Texas Crystal skull. Um. 322 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: She apparently got it in the eighties and it's supposed 323 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: to be from Guatemala, which is my end. Yeah, we've 324 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: been there. And Jake Jake van Deeton, who suposedly owns 325 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: a few of them, joke, joke, yoke, what I call him? Jake? Yea? 326 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: This is she? Okay? Now? She says that her skull 327 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: et healed her brain tumor. That's right, and that's a 328 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: pretty cool name for a skull. If you're a skull owner, 329 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: I would say a movie fan. And then what else 330 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: is there? There's Shanna Ra not shann Annah, and it's 331 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: a big one. It weighs about thirteen pounds, owned by 332 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: Nick no Serino, and he is a self described expert, 333 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: which are a favorite kind of experts in crystal skulls, 334 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: and he claims he found that one in Mexico. And 335 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: then lastly there's an amethyst goal called amy am I 336 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: or me if you're speaking French, um, and that is 337 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: supposedly has a squiggly white line around the circumference of 338 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: this skull. No idea what that means, and supposedly mine. Yeah. 339 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: And then there's a bunch of smaller skulls like little 340 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: ones um that are about an inch in diameter, have 341 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: holes drilled through them, and they think that they were 342 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: ambulance or pendants or some sort of They were worn 343 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: as necklaces. They were sold at the gift shop, the 344 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: crystal skull get shop back in the day. So is 345 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: the deal do all these people think they have one 346 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: of the thirteen? Is that? Is that pretty much what's 347 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: going on here? That's the impression I have, Okay, um, 348 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: especially if you if you're if you consider your crystal 349 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: skull is the source of the healing of your brain 350 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: tumor and chuck, there's it's there's a certain um, there's 351 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: a certain rationale to the idea that a crystal skull 352 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: can allow you to see visions, and there's just something 353 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: more going on there besides it being just a lump 354 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: of courts. And that actually is um one found in 355 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: one of the properties of courts, which is piezza electricity. 356 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: You want to say, it's kind of Italian pizza electric right, 357 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: So that is um the property of courts in particular, 358 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: but generally crystals and ceramics to be able to generate 359 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: an electrical charge just from pressure from like a what's 360 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: called um mechanical uh energy stress stress. So basically just 361 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: rubbing a like a piece of courts crystal skull, you 362 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: should be able to generate electricity. And the harder you rub, 363 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: the more electricity you generate. So that no one's ever 364 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: been able to say, well, then that's why you would 365 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: heal your brains from or anything like that. But the 366 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: fact that courts is piezzo electric is one of the 367 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: things that people who believe in the healing powers of 368 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: these crystal skulls point to, and crystals in general. Yeah 369 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: that you know Little five Points has had that crystal 370 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: shop forever, is it's still around. Yeah, I think. So 371 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: people go in there and they buy their crystal and 372 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: hanging around their neck, and they believe it has healing 373 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: properties or energy property, or at the very least it 374 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: generates a mild electrical current. Yeah. Yeah. Um. Then there's 375 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 1: also slightly wilder claims that UM that these these the 376 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: Piazzo electricity isn't necessarily for healing. It's to um facilitate 377 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: time travel or UM it serves as some sort of 378 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: communication device between UM, the aliens who brought it here 379 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: or Atlantis. We just haven't figured out how to tap 380 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 1: it or unlock it yet. Yeah. What is it they 381 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: compare it to is like a a computer chip potentially 382 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: that has all this uh ancient wisdom and facts and 383 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: knowledge just waiting, just waiting. We just don't know how 384 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: to access. It's like the lunar doomsday are but in 385 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: crystal skull form exactly. So speaking of Mitchell Hedges, which 386 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: we weren't uh speaking of, but I'm bringing up in anyway, 387 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: she UM has loaned it out for study a couple 388 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: of times. Yeah. Some some people who own skulls are 389 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: cool with them them being studied, But more frequent the 390 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: ones that are in possession of a biomuseum. Those are 391 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: the ones that have been studied. The most uh in 392 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: vent and art restore named Frank Dorland studied the Mitchell 393 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: head of skull for six years and he said he 394 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: heard ringing bells, the sound of choir singing, he saw 395 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: auras around the skull, and he could see images when 396 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: gazing into it. Yeah, and this is an art restore. 397 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: He's not necessarily like a crystal skull devote, right. But 398 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: he also claimed, on the other hand, that it showed 399 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: signs of mechanical grinding and holes drilled that we're obviously 400 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: using modern techniques of metal drill. So he sort of 401 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: sort of said it was mystical in some ways, and 402 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: also said, well, but this thing is an ancient because 403 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: it was clearly made with you know, modern technology. Um. 404 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: He also supposedly took it to Hewlett Packard's laboratories. Yeah, 405 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: I thought this was interesting. He said there that they 406 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: performed a test on it um to to find out 407 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: if it was pure courts, and they dropped it in 408 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: benzel alcohol and it disappeared. Yes, it vanished because benzo 409 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: alcohol and courts have the same diffraction coefficient, which means 410 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: they bend light at the same angle, which means that 411 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: if you immerse one and the other is going to 412 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: disappear and turn invisible. Right. Um. The they also found 413 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: at Hewlett Packer that was carved from a single piece 414 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: of crystal, and it was carved against the green, which 415 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: is very unusual. Um. The problem is Helt Packer has 416 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: absolutely no record of of these tests being performed. It's 417 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: possible that that dore Lyn had a friend who you know, 418 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: said come on buy, we'll have some beers and test 419 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: your skull, and it wasn't like an official project or 420 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: he didn't really take it there. This is such a 421 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: weird claim. Uh. And on a TV show in the 422 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: eight and nine Arthur C. Clark had a show called 423 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: Mysterious World and there was a gem expert name Alan 424 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: Jobbins who also studied the crystal skull the Till Hedges 425 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: when and said that he thought that it was from crystal, 426 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: Brazilian crystal from seventeen hundreds, which would not make it ancient. Right, Um, 427 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: that's not my skull that they think are as possibly Brazilian. 428 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: The Paris skull and the British Museum skull they think 429 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: are probably Brazilian, no mines in Brazil. And like you said, 430 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: after the seventeen hundreds, this is post Columbia, not just 431 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: post contact. This is like there's revolution stirring in America 432 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: by this time, and these things were made, right, and 433 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: all all signs start pointing further further back to Jean Boban. Yeah, 434 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: and they also thought it was they were carved in 435 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: Germany most of these, yes, which kind of the Himler 436 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: thing all of a sudden makes sense apparent. But I 437 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: would I would venture to guess that Himmler would have 438 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: never thought that it was made in Germany. I'm sure 439 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: he thought it was like one of the thirteen Mins skulls. 440 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: They were very superstitious, those Nazis. Alright, So back to Boban. So, 441 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: Bob Bonn had his hands on like several of these, 442 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:07,239 Speaker 1: um he uh you mentioned Germany. Um, apparently there's a 443 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: lot of Brazilian crystal that was being worked in Germany 444 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: in the seventeen hundreds, right or no, the nineteenth century, 445 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: eight hundreds, um. And apparently Boban got his hands on 446 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: these things, sold them. But it's not clear whether he 447 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: knew that they were frauds or not, because I mean, 448 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: there was a lot of money to be made during 449 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: the museum period. There was a big boom in artifacts 450 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: and museums and and auctions like this. So you know, 451 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: obviously if you're claiming it's one of the original things, 452 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: you're gonna get top dollar for it exactly, which is 453 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: how the British Museum came about. It's um skull. It 454 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: was purchased, like you said, in eight from Tiffany and Company, 455 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 1: probably the age of the museum when people would pay 456 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: a pretty penny for these things. But I guess to 457 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: its credit, the British Museum led the way in proving 458 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: that these things were fakes. And I just made air 459 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: quotes because there's still amazing works of art. They were. 460 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: They were made by master craftsman in the eight hundreds. 461 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: Just call it that. That's what I say, what works 462 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: of art? Yeah, so they can be admired and not 463 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: and not kind of poked fun at by nonbelievers. Well 464 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: that's why that school still in the British Museum. They're like, 465 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: this thing isn't mine, but still check it out exactly, 466 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: And I'm staring to the aura. Now, the Mitchell Heads 467 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: of School doesn't fall into that because there's no there's 468 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: been no UM, I guess acceptance that it was made recently. Yeah, 469 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: and she and at one point she kind of withdrew 470 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: it from further investigation in that, right. Yeah, So the 471 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: British Museum concluded that there's there's was made um using 472 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: a jeweler's wheel after the European arrival in the America's uh, 473 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: it's high polish indicates it was carved using traditional European techniques. 474 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: And then in two thousand five, Jane Walsh, who was 475 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: an anthropologist with the smith Oonian took the Smithsonian skull 476 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: to the British Museum and said, hey, look look at 477 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: this one to do an electron microscope, and they did 478 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: in there like it's the same thing. They may have 479 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: actually been made by the same craftsman. Yeah, they said 480 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: that there's you know, there would have been pretty clear 481 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: evidence that it was made with ancient tools by the 482 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 1: fact that wouldn't be nearly a smooth it would be 483 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: scratch marks things like that. But it bore none of those, right, 484 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: And they found, you know, the tell tale signs of 485 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: modern tool use, right, they didn't. Yeah, they there were 486 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: no signs of the ancient tool use again if you're 487 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: a believer in crystal skulls. While these things are they 488 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: were made over a hundred and fifty years. Of course 489 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: you're not gonna find as marks or whatever you hack, right, 490 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: It's a hundred and fifty years of sand rubbin right 491 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: doing that kind of work. But this is the thing 492 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: that I like the most. There are out there very 493 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: crude um crystal skulls. There are some that don't. They 494 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: don't look like they were made um from a jeweler's 495 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: wheel and janney in the nineteenth century. So you're saying 496 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: those are the ones. Who knows, you know, my favorite 497 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: part is danger and my ally stuff. So we have 498 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: to mention a few pop culture references UM, starting with 499 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: Stargate SG one, and then it's been in some video 500 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: games Nancy Drew Legend of the Crystal Skull, Pirates of 501 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: the Caribbean third greatest selling video Games two thousand six. 502 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: And then obviously the biggest reference UM would have to 503 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: be The Abominable and Forgettable. I said it Indiana Jones 504 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. And man, I've 505 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: never wanted to love a movie so much in my life, 506 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: and I've never been as disappointed. And I'm on record, 507 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying this. I know, and I feel bad because 508 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, I know that it hurts when we're criticized. 509 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: We're like, we're doing our best. I'm sure that they 510 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: really wanted to put out a great movie. They were 511 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: the Mark. Supposedly they're going to do another one, and 512 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: I heard I think if Steven Spielberg, if you're listening, 513 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: Mr Lucas, get back to basics, brothers. That's what I say. 514 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: Forget all the comparison for can do is on stunts though, 515 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: forget all the c g I monkeys and uh killer 516 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: ants and all that silliness. Just get back to basics. Yeah, 517 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: I agree, go practical And that's that for Chuck. That's 518 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: it all right? Yes. Uh. If you want to learn 519 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: more about crystal skulls and see some cool images and 520 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: crystal skulls, type Crystal skull into the handy search bart 521 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: how stuff works dot com. Uh. And since I said that, 522 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: Chuck's got a letter in his hand and that means 523 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: it's time for a listener mail. That's right, Josh. A 524 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: few weeks ago you asked for a call for if 525 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: you have any ways, you're trying to better humanity. And 526 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: we got quite a few of these, and so we're 527 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: gonna read some of them over the next few episodes. 528 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: This one I'm partial to because i just think it's neat. 529 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: This from Rachel. She's written in before. I have a 530 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: project which I'm attempting to improve humanity. Almost every day 531 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: for the past three years, I've written a pep talk 532 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: at my website website either one website daily pep talk 533 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: from a best Friend dot com. My goal is to 534 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: improve the reader's self esteem by telling them what their 535 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: best friend might say in a moment of crisis. 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I'm forever looking to share the pep and traffic, 546 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: like self esteem can always use boost. Uh. And then 547 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: she gives an example of a pep talk and it's 548 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: kind of cool. You know, I showed this stimily. She 549 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: liked it as well. It's very cool. It's almost like, um, 550 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: a daily horoscope or fortune cookie, but much better because 551 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: it's a fortune cookie. Well you know how a fortune 552 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: cookie it's much less vague. Yeah, I mean it gives 553 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: you a pep talk. It's you could choose your own 554 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: adventure fortune cookie. So that's Rachel. The website is daily 555 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: pep Talk from a best Friend dot com. And it's 556 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: just it's positive, it's it's neat. I'm glad she's doing it. 557 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: That's the bad Boys that has a lot of work. 558 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: I know, I wouldn't figure it to be a need 559 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: for more than like six different kinds of pep talks. Yeah, 560 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: I wonder if it's one of those things where she 561 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: thought that too, and then started to really think about 562 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: it and kept going and going, and she went mad 563 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: along the way and ended up killing housecats and then 564 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: like coming back from the brink and then had to 565 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: write pep talks about all those exactly. Yeah, and now 566 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: she's done. Okay. 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