Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where the Draft is starting in Mobile.
Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal in my garage and I'm joined by
Speaker 1: my two friends, Adam West and Ryan Wolf of the
Speaker 1: Saints Block Party podcast, our Senior Bowl correspondents out there
Speaker 1: in Alabama.
Speaker 2: Welcome.
Speaker 1: What is happening Adam and Ryan sharing a mic here.
Speaker 1: I hope this isn't awkward for you guys, But you
Speaker 1: look great. You got the merch, you look relaxed. You've
Speaker 1: been boots on the ground here for a couple of
Speaker 1: days in Mobile.
Speaker 3: We have.
Speaker 4: It's been it's been a very fun, exciting, little tiring,
Speaker 4: very busy. What three days since we've been out of
Speaker 4: a week, you know, it came in. But before we
Speaker 4: even talk about the Senior Bowl, I just want I
Speaker 4: want to just kind of take it in. I want
Speaker 4: to just give you love, Greg, and because first, you
Speaker 4: know you've been doing NFL Daily, you know, doing your
Speaker 4: your shows with Patrick Claybond, You're doing your shows with
Speaker 4: Steve Wish.
Speaker 3: You have them on, you have me and Ryan on.
Speaker 3: We have done. I wanted to Dante some.
Speaker 4: Love who's helped us and he's part of our Saint
Speaker 4: splot Pipe podcast community and being at the Senior Bowl,
Speaker 4: being at these events, being in the stands, being at
Speaker 4: the you know, Ryan, what's at the pressure when Jim
Speaker 4: Naggi had his opener. There's not a lot of representation
Speaker 4: because media is still white and still male, and that's
Speaker 4: what it looks like. And it's just it's just a
Speaker 4: juxtaposition to me because it's like the country, the president
Speaker 4: is like, let's get it, let's do it. The deis
Speaker 4: and and being in the stands and just seeing how
Speaker 4: football is covered. I just want to give some love
Speaker 4: to you for just being real and being authentic and
Speaker 4: being just being who you are of you know, not
Speaker 4: just opportunity, but you you recognize really we appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Greg, I recognize ball knowers. That's what I recognize. And
Speaker 1: people that can make me make me laugh, and.
Speaker 2: People that are there.
Speaker 1: I wish, I wish we had the money that we'd
Speaker 1: be sending you guys out to be our correspondence.
Speaker 2: But I'm calling you that you guys are out there
Speaker 2: on your own dime.
Speaker 1: Of course, UH supporting your podcast and everyone should check
Speaker 1: that out. Saints Block Party podcast. They got a lot
Speaker 1: of good interviews this week on their Patreon. UH and
Speaker 1: uh boots on the ground. It's cool and yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a good call with the draft community, especially
Speaker 1: even even amongst the NFL media community, is particularly one note.
Speaker 1: So I've never been down there before. Ryan, you lived
Speaker 1: there first of all, Like what I didn't really think about.
Speaker 1: So I was just introducing you. But Adam West and
Speaker 1: Ryan Wolf. You guys got some like broadcast superhero type
Speaker 1: names here right now? You know, like that you guys
Speaker 1: should be in front of the camera with Adam.
Speaker 3: You just named it be Ryan Wolf.
Speaker 2: So I'm not even I did actually think that's your name.
Speaker 1: But then I saw that's what you went by, a boot,
Speaker 1: that blue sky, that boy Wolf. I was like, Damn,
Speaker 1: I didn't know his actual name was Ryn Wolf.
Speaker 3: It's not it's not just sound Ryan Wolf, not related.
Speaker 3: But I love.
Speaker 2: What what's it? What's it been like this week?
Speaker 1: Let's get into the players, cause the thing that stands
Speaker 1: out to me the most just from watching your guys
Speaker 1: covered is how convinced Adam is that Jackson Dart, the
Speaker 1: Ole miss quarterback who I happen to talk a decent
Speaker 1: amount with Nate ticeon. And we'll stick to some of
Speaker 1: the big names some of the top fifty players that
Speaker 1: are there in Mobile. But quarterbacks always interesting. Your team
Speaker 1: needs a quarterback long term, of course, despite you know
Speaker 1: the presence of Spencer Rattler. But thinking big picture, I'm
Speaker 1: amazed how convinced Adam Is, who I know has good
Speaker 1: contact throughout the league, that this guy is going top ten,
Speaker 1: top fifteen, Like nobody's saying that yet.
Speaker 5: Why are you so confident, I'll say at least top fifteen.
Speaker 5: I just there's just there's there's buzz that.
Speaker 4: He will potentially may have a bow Knicks type of
Speaker 4: bump where there's just gonna be a team that falls
Speaker 4: falls in love with him as a prospect. And Greg,
Speaker 4: we know how it is in the draft when there's
Speaker 4: teams when it comes to this quarterback thirst, we see
Speaker 4: it oftentimes. Again, what's gonna be interesting is is there
Speaker 4: gonna be that restraint that we saw in twenty twenty
Speaker 4: two in a down quarterback draft when you have the
Speaker 4: can you pick it Malik Willis draft and we don't see,
Speaker 4: we don't see the thirst come to fruition or is
Speaker 4: there gonna be a team that the Steelers, the Rams
Speaker 4: and you and you know, we don't know what's gonna
Speaker 4: going wrong with Matthew Stafford. Is there gonna be a
Speaker 4: team that's gonna feel like they can squint and a
Speaker 4: just ask you this, Well, let's go back to last year,
Speaker 4: around the same time last year, with anyone talking about
Speaker 4: bo Nicks going at tenth in the drought.
Speaker 2: No, and at this time of year.
Speaker 1: He was getting knocked a little bit for not having
Speaker 1: the best senior ball week, which I think informed a
Speaker 1: lot of the coverage afterwards. But that doesn't doesn't mean
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen with everyone. Ryan, what did what did
Speaker 1: you see out of Jackson Dart this week? Let's let's
Speaker 1: start there on the field.
Speaker 3: I mean, he looked He looked good. That's that's the
Speaker 3: thing about him. He looks the part. If you just
Speaker 3: watch him, you know, move around, just the command of
Speaker 3: the offense and all that stuff. He looks the part.
Speaker 3: You know. As a personally, I just it would definitely
Speaker 3: be an overdraft, like for him to go in the
Speaker 3: top five, top fifteen or top ten. But you know,
Speaker 3: like Ed, I'm just saying you could have made that
Speaker 3: argument about bo Knicks last year, but I still I
Speaker 3: struggle to see it with dark But I do see
Speaker 3: the uh tools, The tools are there, and you could
Speaker 3: see the tools that would entice an NFL team that's
Speaker 3: thirsty for a quarterback, because there's like a lot of
Speaker 3: teams this year that really need quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Why just because he's like he's just big and athletic
Speaker 1: and handsome basically.
Speaker 3: And he has a good arm. It's not It was
Speaker 3: funny during to see the Senior Bowl week, you know,
Speaker 3: the first two practices he wasn't really on corking it.
Speaker 3: I was like, man, where is this arm? You know
Speaker 3: that I was supposed to hear about. Today when he
Speaker 3: had like the team drills going against the defense, you
Speaker 3: saw him let it loose a little more and you know,
Speaker 3: drive the ball a little more. Not that he has
Speaker 3: like a huge Matthew Stafford type on and that like that,
Speaker 3: but he hasn't, you know, a decent nice arm. So
Speaker 3: I just think maybe the quarterback thirst meets the tools
Speaker 3: and he could get boosted up for me personally. But
Speaker 3: if that's what they if you're hearing that now and
Speaker 3: everybody's buzzing about them, it always starts little buzz and
Speaker 3: then come April it's like, okay, of course you of
Speaker 3: course he went top top fifty, you know, just saying,
Speaker 3: let me just put it out there.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, then you better be right.
Speaker 1: You know you're going strong on this you're talking about
Speaker 1: I think he might go at nine to the Saints
Speaker 1: that you're feeling on top fifty.
Speaker 3: You know, I didn't say I would just put it.
Speaker 4: I was just wanted to just gauge the post of
Speaker 4: how Saints fans would feel. Okay, I didn't say he
Speaker 4: was going the Saint.
Speaker 2: You put it out there. I saw what you did.
Speaker 2: Don't don't try to gasp me.
Speaker 1: He he was forty third on Daniel Jeremiah's top fifty prospects,
Speaker 1: So that caught my attention because I don't even think
Speaker 1: he's that high on other people's. And that's that's Dania
Speaker 1: Jeremiah's opinion, and it's it's not his mock draft, but
Speaker 1: the fact that he from that sort of respected evaluator,
Speaker 1: that he's going to get that high, then he's got
Speaker 1: a chance to be QB three, and then some of
Speaker 1: the push for the quarterbacks could happen. I would push
Speaker 1: back and say cam Ward going top fifteen and Shader
Speaker 1: Sanders going top fifteen, that's the push because if they
Speaker 1: were in last year's draft, those guys might be behind
Speaker 1: bow Nicks they or right around him, they might be
Speaker 1: about QB six, QB five, QB six. I think they
Speaker 1: would definitely would have been behind Pennix and and Pennox
Speaker 1: was QB four, So so to me, those guys going
Speaker 1: relatively early there, I think there is a point where
Speaker 1: you gotta have the talent and and we'll see, Like
Speaker 1: he's an intriguing guy. It feels like he maybe has
Speaker 1: a strong like agent going on, like some strong buzzes
Speaker 1: just just happened with this dude from the cornerbacks that
Speaker 1: you saw there this week. Riley Leonard was there, and
Speaker 1: it's it's because I'm a big Nate Tice fan, and
Speaker 1: I remember listening to him talk about him a lot
Speaker 1: last year, Like he's a much bigger Riley Leonard fan
Speaker 1: than I think America is. And Leonard had it yeah,
Speaker 1: hadn't up, yeah, hadn't up and down season at Notre
Speaker 1: Day and which probably did not help his his status.
Speaker 1: Is there anyone that stuck out to you at quarterback
Speaker 1: other than than Jackson Dart who who Yeah, like I
Speaker 1: was listening to move the sticks. People should check out
Speaker 1: our our podcast on NFL Media, Move the Sticks, who's
Speaker 1: been doing daily recaps, and they I can read between
Speaker 1: the lines. They weren't that impressed with Dart the first
Speaker 1: couple of days, kind of like you and and it
Speaker 1: sounds like today from the network coverage, they were more impressed.
Speaker 1: Was there anyone else at quarterback that you liked there
Speaker 1: this week?
Speaker 4: I would say, coming into the Singer Bowl, I wasn't
Speaker 4: expecting a whole bunch from Dylan Gabriel, the Oregon quarterback,
Speaker 4: And I think he just impressed me just in terms
Speaker 4: of just his his accuracy and he has a probably
Speaker 4: a little more on his on his throne that I
Speaker 4: then anticipated. And everyone everyone likes to just make the
Speaker 4: lazy like, oh, he'd be a perfect like backup quarterback
Speaker 4: for Tula in Miami and then if he gets hurt,
Speaker 4: like there's not like a drop off in the offense.
Speaker 4: Even before the Singer Bowl, but then I watched it,
Speaker 4: I was like, like that would be that would be
Speaker 4: perfect for the Dolphins. If you go to the Dolphins
Speaker 4: season every time to what gets hurt, like they don't
Speaker 4: have an adequate backup situation. They have to completely change
Speaker 4: their offense. Toua was left handed and like you can
Speaker 4: make a lot of like Dylan Gable would make perfect
Speaker 4: sense for them, like in the fourth round or in
Speaker 4: the fifth round because he's left handed and he gets
Speaker 4: it and anyway, but he he's been like impressive and
Speaker 4: what he's able to what he's shown here in Mobile.
Speaker 2: Ryan, do you feel like a scout now?
Speaker 3: Have you?
Speaker 1: I hope you don't have any like imposter syndrome because
Speaker 1: this is a home game. I've listened to your podcast.
Speaker 1: You know you're from you're living in Mobile. You're not
Speaker 1: from Mobile, but you live nearby, and so it's a
Speaker 1: home game. Like how is it putting on that scouting
Speaker 1: cap and what have you seen?
Speaker 3: It feels natural for me? Man, I love it, you know.
Speaker 3: Jalen Moreau he was the guy to look for coming
Speaker 3: into this into this week. Uh, he started out this
Speaker 3: practice his practice week kind of rough. I can't lie,
Speaker 3: like just just as far as accuracy, you know, fumbling
Speaker 3: the ball, interceptions and stuff like that. I thought he
Speaker 3: had a really solid day to day when they had
Speaker 3: the team practices. Also kind of like dark, Uh, impressive kid,
Speaker 3: Like I was there for his his initial presser just
Speaker 3: like an impressive kid that will probably win some GM's
Speaker 3: coaches over in the meeting room. Obviously dripping with talent,
Speaker 3: athletic fast. He can give you the second action plays.
Speaker 3: It's not like he has a week on. He's a
Speaker 3: good arm and when he and you watch the tape,
Speaker 3: he does throw accurately at times, but it's just like you,
Speaker 3: he's He's similar to Jalen Hurts was when he came out,
Speaker 3: whereas like, I'm gonna have to kind of build him
Speaker 3: into a passer and use his legs and use his
Speaker 3: playmaking ability to build him along. It's just just one
Speaker 3: of those guys where you just kind of hope that
Speaker 3: he probably got another year, but it doesn't matter now
Speaker 3: he's coming into the NFL, so I let him, let
Speaker 3: him get let him get his reps in the NFL,
Speaker 3: you know, and maybe he'll improve there. So it's gonna
Speaker 3: be to see how his process goes along.
Speaker 4: Just a quick and just a little quick thing. I
Speaker 4: found it very interesting that both Mike Tomlin was here
Speaker 4: with author Smith his oh scene very like just just
Speaker 4: a little note together. It's a little interesting note I
Speaker 4: took by being here.
Speaker 1: Right, And Milroe is a guy who if you're putting
Speaker 1: them into different buckets of types of quarterbacks strengths weaknesses.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Hurts justin fields, might might be another one
Speaker 1: where where some of the strengths some of the weaknesses.
Speaker 2: And to me, he he has potential to be a
Speaker 2: special runner like like.
Speaker 1: Already right, So that's such a great floor to start from.
Speaker 1: And to me, he seems like a much more likely
Speaker 1: QB three. If you're telling me someone's gonna get pushed
Speaker 1: up the board a little bit, he.
Speaker 2: Makes more sense to me.
Speaker 1: And Hurts is a really interesting comparison because I'll always
Speaker 1: remember Jeremiah at the last second with his top fifty
Speaker 1: prospects right before the draft, finally putting Hurts, and he
Speaker 1: just said, there's too many people around the NFL that
Speaker 1: have told me he's just a special person in terms
Speaker 1: of what a leader and a worker he is. That
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just bet on him and see what happens
Speaker 1: and put him in there. And it's funny, it's right
Speaker 1: about where he went in the draft. He didn't go
Speaker 1: first round, but he did go top fifty, and now
Speaker 1: here he is in his.
Speaker 2: Second Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: No one's putting him as a top five quarterback. We
Speaker 1: didn't put him on QB Island. We might have to
Speaker 1: have a revote if he wins a Super Bowl. But
Speaker 1: he is coming off as his best game of the season.
Speaker 1: I gotta say about Hurts.
Speaker 2: This is a little bit of a sidetrack.
Speaker 1: But no, I just finished the coach the film from
Speaker 1: last week and I and I went through, I went
Speaker 1: through my notes, I went through like the PFF score
Speaker 1: and stuff, and I was like, that was his.
Speaker 2: Best game of the season. And then I was singing
Speaker 2: like two.
Speaker 1: Years ago was the best game of his career and
Speaker 1: it was the Super Bowl. I mean, if this is
Speaker 1: any other sport, we would call that a big game player. Now,
Speaker 1: it's a little inconsistent because not all of his playoff
Speaker 1: games have been magic. In fact, he's had some just
Speaker 1: okay ones, including this year. But it's pretty cool that
Speaker 1: the best game of his career is in the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: the best game of his season is in the NFC Championship.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what you want. That's what you want
Speaker 1: on your leader, right. I know he's not like Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: but that's kind of what you want. It makes me
Speaker 1: afraid to pick against.
Speaker 4: Him, and he was drafted in the second round, and
Speaker 4: he was considered like a quote unquote project quarterback, Like
Speaker 4: that's that's true quarterback development.
Speaker 3: Remember they were like, we can use him as a
Speaker 3: tsom Hill. Maybe it was like we are in the
Speaker 3: super Bowl for the second time.
Speaker 2: All right, you got to make sure Adam's not just
Speaker 2: hogging that Mike.
Speaker 1: Let's let's move. Let's move to the tight end position.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you gotta it's like tilted towards you.
Speaker 1: I see what you're doing. Adam's kind of the host
Speaker 1: between you two, and he's trying to get preferential sound
Speaker 1: treatment here. The tight ends, the tight ends in Mobile
Speaker 1: looked like they were awesome from Afar, it's a really
Speaker 1: good tight end class. I keep referring to DJ because
Speaker 1: I gotta have some some foundation to build my rankings from.
Speaker 1: And he's got two tight ends in his top ten
Speaker 1: overall players, which is wild their top fifteen overall players,
Speaker 1: and Tyler Warren is one of them, and they weren't
Speaker 1: in Mobile. But he had two others that were in Mobile,
Speaker 1: Mason Taylor, the son of Jason Taylor, and Elijah Arroyo,
Speaker 1: who had a bunch of great looking catches from my
Speaker 1: eyes this week, just from the TV copy. Ryan, give
Speaker 1: me your impressions on like Wich, which of those two
Speaker 1: you like better?
Speaker 2: Just what stood out with those two.
Speaker 3: The thing about a royal is just the way he moves,
Speaker 3: man like you you watch him quickly, you're gonna see it.
Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, this guy is six four and a half,
Speaker 3: you know, two hundred and whatever pounds, two hundred and
Speaker 3: sixty pounds, moving like this, come like this this. You
Speaker 3: could easily see him being special in the offense. Now
Speaker 3: we know how tight ends work. You know, you could
Speaker 3: be as special as you want. To be an effective
Speaker 3: tight end. You have to do a lot of the
Speaker 3: dirty work. You gotta be able to, you know, somewhat
Speaker 3: block You gotta be able to do things. We'll see
Speaker 3: how he is in that area, you know. But I
Speaker 3: mean just from a talent standpoint and a you know,
Speaker 3: red zone going up. He had a red zone catch today,
Speaker 3: but he went up and attacked the ball. Just looked
Speaker 3: just like Jimmy Graham, man Like. It just reminded me
Speaker 3: of Jimmy Graham from back in the day. So like,
Speaker 3: just awesome. I know, Ty Warren, he wasn't at the
Speaker 3: Senior Bowl, but he's like, you know, mostly the tight
Speaker 3: end one for most people, Adam is thinking like, man,
Speaker 3: it's a Royal better than Ty Warren. You know that's
Speaker 3: going to be one of the fas. But there's a
Speaker 3: there's so many tight ends in this class though. I mean,
Speaker 3: you've got Harold Fanning. He's out of where's he got
Speaker 3: out of Bowling Green. He's super talented, didn't shine that
Speaker 3: much this week at Singing Bowl, but you know his
Speaker 3: team speak for himself, he's really an athletic.
Speaker 4: And for for Mason Taylor, I think this tightening class
Speaker 4: in running back class is very much like ice cream
Speaker 4: is just like what is your flavor? And with Royal
Speaker 4: you get so like with Mason Taylor, it's like he's
Speaker 4: more of a what's it like, a more complete tight
Speaker 4: end in terms of someone that maybe you can play
Speaker 4: him more and more in line. He's going to be
Speaker 4: more of a factor in the run game, but still fluid,
Speaker 4: maybe not as fluid. And then someone a friend of
Speaker 4: mine made a great comparison I think for Mason Taylor,
Speaker 4: like as a pro Green Bay Packers Luke musk Grave
Speaker 4: as a pro comparison, I felt like that was very
Speaker 4: apt and I feel like Mason Taylor is going to
Speaker 4: be a better role player than he was in college.
Speaker 4: We actually actually got to have a quick interview with
Speaker 4: him and he very so very But this running backs
Speaker 4: and tight ends are just going to it's just what
Speaker 4: do you want out of out of your players? Really,
Speaker 4: what it's going to boil down to for both those
Speaker 4: positions in this draft class.
Speaker 1: That's an interesting comp you know, from I gotta I
Speaker 1: gotta get in on the tape on these guys.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to watch it. It must grave I
Speaker 2: never was.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was as natural he he
Speaker 1: definitely has the speed. I think just being Jason Taylor's
Speaker 1: son is gonna get him pushed up.
Speaker 2: People just want to and there is something to.
Speaker 4: That quick thing to his Mason Taylor or sorry, Mason
Speaker 4: Taylor's mom is zach Zak, Thomas's former Texas Tech linebackers sister,
Speaker 4: right right.
Speaker 2: I remember that back in the day when they were playing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like, he's like born to be an
Speaker 4: NFL player.
Speaker 2: I see it at the NFL. I think about this
Speaker 2: all the time. People are just like.
Speaker 1: All these athlete sons, you know, they have the jeans and.
Speaker 2: That's why they become great players.
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, that helps, of course, but a
Speaker 1: lot of people have good jeans, a lot of people
Speaker 1: are athletic. What they have is a freaking personal NFL
Speaker 1: coach in their house with them twenty four to seven,
Speaker 1: who's coaching them up from the time they're three years
Speaker 1: old through this whole process. Jason Taylor is literally there.
Speaker 1: You can't even imagine how valuable that is because I
Speaker 1: see how.
Speaker 3: Crazy they not here the whole week.
Speaker 1: Right Like, I see how serious they are about their
Speaker 1: NFL flag leagues, and that continues up to their when
Speaker 1: they start playing tackle to their high school and as
Speaker 1: long as the kids love it, and a lot of
Speaker 1: their kids don't like that, a lot of them. It's
Speaker 1: like one out of three of the kids, don't, you know,
Speaker 1: it's one out of three loves it or whatever. But
Speaker 1: the one that does, it's like they've they've got this
Speaker 1: free coach who knows everything and knows how to train
Speaker 1: and is gonna help you all along the way. And then, oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, they also have basically unlimited resources to
Speaker 1: get you on the best teams and get more coaches
Speaker 1: and get more help. It's like that's why they're all
Speaker 1: making the league. It's not just the jeans, it's and
Speaker 1: I don't of course you don't blame them, like why
Speaker 1: wouldn't Why wouldn't you do that to help your son?
Speaker 1: Arroyo being that high potentially going up to TU one
Speaker 1: is really interesting. He does seem like there's always like
Speaker 1: a pass catcher at the Senior Bowl who I think
Speaker 1: helps themselves a lot.
Speaker 2: McConkey was maybe was maybe one.
Speaker 1: And maybe it was a Arroyo this week, because for instance,
Speaker 1: he was at the bottom of the top fifty for DJ.
Speaker 2: He had Taylor thirty five.
Speaker 1: And like I said, he had two tight ends in
Speaker 1: the top top ten I believe, way ahead of him,
Speaker 1: And so maybe that's someone that's gonna be jumping up boards.
Speaker 1: Was there anyone at wide receiver? Will start with you,
Speaker 1: Adam that you like this week? Now in general, just
Speaker 1: for the listeners if you're kind of just getting up
Speaker 1: to speed on this class. Not great at quarterback overall,
Speaker 1: really strong at tight end and running back. Not believed
Speaker 1: to be as deep or as top heavy as the
Speaker 1: recent wide receivers class, which has been just kind of
Speaker 1: crazy and the Senior Bowl reflected that it sounds like
Speaker 1: too Uh.
Speaker 4: There's there's two players. Uh, there's Tess Johnson who at Oregon,
Speaker 4: who wide receiver. He's gonna I'm fast fascinated to know
Speaker 4: where he's gonna go. He's he's very very small in stature.
Speaker 4: I think he's like one hundred and fifty pounds one
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty six pounds, very diminutive in size. But
Speaker 4: his movement skills and the way he wins reminds me
Speaker 4: a little bit of Davonta Smith from the Eagles. He's
Speaker 4: not as tall as DeVante Smith from the Eagles, but
Speaker 4: just how he wins. He was almost unguardable here, just
Speaker 4: in terms of, you know, no one could cover him
Speaker 4: and if.
Speaker 2: Too strong, like Davante Smith, DeVante Smith is like no, okay, no,
Speaker 2: he's not the.
Speaker 1: One thing that's surprised you about the slim reaper, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: hit him with a kill shot and he bounces right back,
Speaker 1: and he always like embodies people for one hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy five pounds or whatever he is.
Speaker 4: But you know, Tes Johnson, excuse me, did play for Oregon,
Speaker 4: who was the number one, you know team largely throughout
Speaker 4: the season, and was like one of their best weapons.
Speaker 4: And teams knew going in that they needed to stop
Speaker 4: test Johnson, and a lot of teams didn't have answers
Speaker 4: for him. So he very much we made made himself,
Speaker 4: made him out well here in mobile and Iowa State
Speaker 4: receiver Jaydon Higgins tall six four. I compare him a
Speaker 4: little bit to that of like the Keyon Coleman type,
Speaker 4: the you know, win contested balls. Maybe not the best
Speaker 4: in terms of maybe struggles a little bit with separation
Speaker 4: in terms of like from cornerbacks, but it maybe doesn't
Speaker 4: have that I won't have that production that you will
Speaker 4: want from a rookie receiver. But also could be that
Speaker 4: Drake London type you know eventually because he has that
Speaker 4: that that same type of body type and frame he
Speaker 4: does and has very very nice hands, very very soft
Speaker 4: hands as well.
Speaker 1: Oh that that's huge. Where Ryan do you think like
Speaker 1: these guys would go? Ted Johnson is someone that it's
Speaker 1: like one one place scouting Steve Balazola likes to talk about,
Speaker 1: which which is funny, but it sometimes sometimes it works
Speaker 1: like one of those plays on the highlights you know
Speaker 1: on TV this week and his Tess Johnson stop and
Speaker 1: start and even to slow down and then speed up.
Speaker 1: It's insane you when you see it, you know, And
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, that tracks.
Speaker 2: I don't care how small he is.
Speaker 1: Like if if to tow at Well can go in
Speaker 1: the fourth round, and Tank del can go in the third,
Speaker 1: then Tess Johnson can go in the second or something
Speaker 1: like that, because that that stop and start was crazy.
Speaker 3: We have presidents now because you know, five years ago,
Speaker 3: you know, there was an argument about Vonte Smith and
Speaker 3: he was coming out. I was like, can he hold
Speaker 3: up in the league? Now we have a bunch of
Speaker 3: those guys in the league. Just the way the offenses
Speaker 3: are now and the way defenses are called, I think
Speaker 3: somebody like to could survive. How you know, can he
Speaker 3: catch ninety balls a year? I don't know. Rondo Moore
Speaker 3: recently too, Yeah, yeah too. So I think he would
Speaker 3: definitely be that like second to third round tier since
Speaker 3: he's not a not only is he slim, but he's
Speaker 3: not tall either, So I think he would kind of
Speaker 3: fall into that kind of mid round day two sweet
Speaker 3: sweet spot where people you know, you know, somebody take
Speaker 3: a chance. But you know, I mean people like Andy Reid,
Speaker 3: people like they they you know, they fire a guy,
Speaker 3: they see it, have a specific vision for a guy,
Speaker 3: they'll go get him. They don't care.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they and they should, Like those guys are valuable.
Speaker 1: You can't tell them, Like I know it took a
Speaker 1: minute to for even Kali Seki, who's a different type
Speaker 1: of player, but for him get going. But you can't
Speaker 1: tell me he's not more valuable than a whole lot
Speaker 1: of second and third round picks that there have been
Speaker 1: over the years.
Speaker 2: So I players like that.
Speaker 4: I that's a great little comparison, like in how they
Speaker 4: both win.
Speaker 3: That's a good one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Tez pops a little more, even at least
Speaker 1: to me, it pops even more in terms of just
Speaker 1: pure Xavier Worthy type. Once we figure him out, that
Speaker 1: speed is going to be a major problem. Because Xavier
Speaker 1: Worthy suddenly went for I'll be talking about it next
Speaker 1: week in New Orleans. But Xavier Worthy somehow went from
Speaker 1: a pretty rocky rookie year to easily the most important
Speaker 1: receiver on the potential future Super Bowl champions.
Speaker 2: Like he is their wide receiver one.
Speaker 1: I don't care what you say about him, Like they're
Speaker 1: kind of building it around him him in Hollywood now
Speaker 1: and like it's working.
Speaker 2: He's the man.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the defensive side. The defensive line for
Speaker 1: this Senior Bowl was really deep, and for this draft
Speaker 1: was really deep. Probably the the best position in this
Speaker 1: draft is throughout the defensive line. And there were a
Speaker 1: lot of good players at the Senior Ball just just
Speaker 1: to name a few, Mike Green, Shamar Stewart, Walter Nolan
Speaker 1: all top thirty players according to Daniel Jeremiah, who stood
Speaker 1: out to you the most, Ryan that you liked off
Speaker 1: the defensive line, and then maybe Adam, you jump in
Speaker 1: and can give me another one that you liked.
Speaker 3: Shamar Stewart, he stood out. He's been getting a lot
Speaker 3: of pub I mean, he did so well this week.
Speaker 3: He just said, look, I'm not playing the game. I'm
Speaker 3: I'm out of here at peace. Like he and his
Speaker 3: agent got up out of here. Mike Green did the
Speaker 3: same thing. Had a great week. Well. It was funny
Speaker 3: the first day the defensive lines were not performing well,
Speaker 3: like none of the age players are playing well defensive tackle,
Speaker 3: like they were just getting owned by the offense. So
Speaker 3: the next day, day two, all the the d lineman
Speaker 3: came in just on fire, just lighting it up. You know,
Speaker 3: at the practices on the one on ones. You know,
Speaker 3: there's a clip going around Mike Green blowing up the
Speaker 3: offensive guard. Uh, and it was you know, so I
Speaker 3: think those two players, Mike Green and Shamarrow like both
Speaker 3: stood out tomorrow to Texas A and m Mike Green
Speaker 3: out of Marshall. It was a big week for him
Speaker 3: because he's a small school guy. If you go watch
Speaker 3: clips of him online, if you can find him, he's
Speaker 3: just dominating. He's just like a ball in the china shop,
Speaker 3: just going crazy on against small, small school players. So
Speaker 3: everybody wanted to see how would he perform against you know,
Speaker 3: bigger name, bigger, bigger talented offensive lineman. And he did good.
Speaker 3: He did good, so you know, his week is pretty
Speaker 3: much over. But other than that, there were you know,
Speaker 3: it was kind of hard to really see who really
Speaker 3: was shining in the you know as defensive lineman because
Speaker 3: you know, they they get on those one on ones
Speaker 3: and they're letting him go for like two minutes and
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, of course the defensive lineman is winning
Speaker 3: right now. The bowl will be gone like five minutes ago.
Speaker 3: So it's like, what do we really learning? You best
Speaker 3: you could do? Is go watch the tape and try
Speaker 3: to figure out.
Speaker 4: How it's It's funny to me because I feel like
Speaker 4: maybe maybe I and this is why I draft.
Speaker 5: The draft is such a beauty of the eye of
Speaker 5: the beholder.
Speaker 4: A lot of people here let like feel like Mike
Speaker 4: Green had like a great week, and like I I
Speaker 4: feel like his week was like like okay, like at best,
Speaker 4: I didn't feel like I didn't feel like he had
Speaker 4: a great day one he got besides like maybe a play.
Speaker 4: He got very man handled a lot day one because
Speaker 4: he is he's two fifty and like he's a very
Speaker 4: smaller edge rusher. And then yesterday he had a better
Speaker 4: day and then he had that viral clip and then
Speaker 4: literally he like dipped out, and I felt like his age,
Speaker 4: it was like we've done enough. I do think Mike,
Speaker 4: Mike Greens, you know, is gonna be a first round
Speaker 4: d I and helped me out here. But I feel
Speaker 4: like Walter Nolan has had a good week too, and
Speaker 4: I feel like he's going to have a type of
Speaker 4: rise that defendsil tackle from the tech from Texas that
Speaker 4: went to the Seahawks.
Speaker 3: Name I'm blinking on Byron Murphy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's gonna have.
Speaker 2: That's my style of guy.
Speaker 1: Everything I see and hear about Walter Nolan, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 3: He's very Byron Murphy ish. We got to talk. We had,
Speaker 3: you know, he was at the podium. We got to
Speaker 3: ask him a.
Speaker 4: Couple of questions in terms of just his natural playing position,
Speaker 4: and I just feel like he's had a he's had
Speaker 4: a good week here and I feel like there he's
Speaker 4: Byron Murphy is esque type of player, and I feel
Speaker 4: like that's like that's his range is where he probably
Speaker 4: is gonna end up going in the draft is as well.
Speaker 3: One thing I liked about I liked about his his interview,
Speaker 3: the questions we asked. He's getting real detailed about the
Speaker 3: positions he liked to play on the defensive line, just
Speaker 3: you know, from three point to one point and all
Speaker 3: a little different incacies in between. I just liked that
Speaker 3: he talked about this stuff because some of these guys
Speaker 3: they're just like, oh, just put me out there and
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go get the quarterback or whatever. But he
Speaker 3: was real educate with it. So that's it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 3: But he's a good player. If you're watching him on team. Yes,
Speaker 3: you can see that he's just gonna be a good player.
Speaker 1: And everyone needs one man. You look at the teams
Speaker 1: that are that are that are still left. You got
Speaker 1: you got Chris Jones on one team. You've got Ed
Speaker 1: Oliver coming off a really good playoff run for the Bills.
Speaker 2: Got j Carter Well.
Speaker 3: I saw Chris Jones crying for the national anthem. I'm like,
Speaker 3: it's over, it's over. Big got Uh?
Speaker 1: You got you got Carter Uh for the Eagles, who
Speaker 1: might be the best defensive player in the playoffs. And
Speaker 1: then even the Commanders like Jerry Newton was making some
Speaker 1: place for them, and Jonathan Allen came back and he
Speaker 1: was looking good, Like you need one of those guys.
Speaker 1: And yeah, Nolan is twenty six right now on DJ's board,
Speaker 1: and that that could go up. Mike Green is twenty third.
Speaker 1: Shamar Stewart, who to me reminds me of one of
Speaker 1: those defensive linemen you want on your team that's probably
Speaker 1: better as your second defensive like and but that you
Speaker 1: need above average starters who are really athletic. And even
Speaker 1: if he doesn't finish plays all the time, like he's
Speaker 1: a guy, people will be excited to work with.
Speaker 3: Josh Sweat is a guy like the Saints defensive.
Speaker 2: Okay, you you threw it out there. I don't need
Speaker 2: to go over the offensive line starters or whatever. Let's
Speaker 2: talk a little Saints.
Speaker 3: No of this draft stuff.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, well, you know we talked about Great,
Speaker 1: We're going to that guy's name.
Speaker 2: Great.
Speaker 1: Gray's a booie. What is the North Dakota State pensive lineman?
Speaker 1: He seems like he's the guy that that stood out
Speaker 1: the most. It actually reminds me a little of Quinn Miners,
Speaker 1: who I thought was just like a media gimmick because
Speaker 1: of his big belly at the Senior Bowl a few
Speaker 1: years ago. Everyone just like telling this story. And he's
Speaker 1: literally the first team All Pro this year, maybe the
Speaker 1: best guard in the league.
Speaker 4: Is crazy, and he's been a rock here, like a rock,
Speaker 4: and I don't I don't know where he was even
Speaker 4: slotted to go. We're both draft ciccos, but like, I'm
Speaker 4: not so much for draft cickle to know where he
Speaker 4: was slotted to go.
Speaker 2: DJ had him in his top fifty barely.
Speaker 1: And again, his name is Grey Zabel North data State
Speaker 1: and he can he can probably play center or guard
Speaker 1: at the next level, like he's played all three positions,
Speaker 1: but that he'll probably play inside as a pro at
Speaker 1: least according to DJ, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Would just I'll say this, and we got some pretty good,
Speaker 4: pretty good footage of the one on ones. There weren't
Speaker 4: many one on one one on one on ones with
Speaker 4: the defensive line that he got beat at.
Speaker 3: This is like he's been like he's like a just
Speaker 3: a rock inside.
Speaker 4: So he's definitely made money this week And I think
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not you didn't ask this question, but
Speaker 4: like if you were just to ask me, like the
Speaker 4: player that made the most money here this weekend, because
Speaker 4: that's what the Senior Bowl is all about, right, just
Speaker 4: making money stock, I would probably give that award to
Speaker 4: Elijah Royal, like I and I think, oh okay, just
Speaker 4: even yesterday at the media day, he had a media
Speaker 4: like a media scrum when just walking in, like walking
Speaker 4: in like he had a scrum of media people around him.
Speaker 4: So he's definitely made himself some money. Our dude, Dante
Speaker 4: made a great comparison just in terms of how he
Speaker 4: moves as a football player. Only people, please, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: preface it by only he moves like Aaron Hernandez moved
Speaker 4: as a football player like if you just go and
Speaker 4: I couldn't just like I'm shake And that's just how
Speaker 4: he moves out the football player as a tight end.
Speaker 4: But for sure, like the biggest person that's made money
Speaker 4: this weekend, for sure has been I think by far
Speaker 4: has been Elijah Royal.
Speaker 1: I mean that is it's always a tricky comp to make,
Speaker 1: you know, I preface it, that's a.
Speaker 2: Tricky one to make though on the field though, because.
Speaker 1: Aaron Hernandez, if you take out you know, coming into
Speaker 1: the draft, was a top twenty pick if it wasn't
Speaker 1: for being Aaron Hernandez, because of his talents in the
Speaker 1: way that he moved, and he was rare in terms
Speaker 1: of who he was as a player. You know, there's
Speaker 1: one that pops up every few years kind of like him,
Speaker 1: and they usually get taken in the top fifteen or twenty.
Speaker 1: So that is how praise. Let's take actually a quick
Speaker 1: break and then we're gonna come back. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about Kellen Moore maybe becoming the Saints coach,
Speaker 1: talk a little Matthew Stafford, and then we're gonna get
Speaker 1: to our weekend and send you into the mobile night
Speaker 1: back on NFL Daily.
Speaker 3: This a second, All.
Speaker 2: Right back here on NFL Daily.
Speaker 1: With my guys Adam and Ryan from the Saints Block
Speaker 1: Party podcast.
Speaker 2: Who knows what's going on on their OnlyFans or no Patriots? Right,
Speaker 2: that's Patrion. I mean, what's the difference really? Who knows
Speaker 2: what's going on? In these interviews?
Speaker 1: Your boy Kellen Moore, it looks like he's gonna take
Speaker 1: this job. And it's so funny, you guys, how you
Speaker 1: went immediately from being so just like what is going
Speaker 1: on with this Saints head coaching search and we're kind
Speaker 1: of sick of Mickey Loomis, No one wants our job,
Speaker 1: And then the second you just get a little with
Speaker 1: over like a kind of good head coaching candidate who
Speaker 1: wants to come aboard, You're just like, oh yeah, Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore's man, We're all onboard the Kellen Moore Express.
Speaker 2: Explain yourself. Explain yourself.
Speaker 4: It's not Darren Rizzy, it's not John Gruden, Greg like,
Speaker 4: that's the explanation. And I don't I don't think people
Speaker 4: understand and understand how many coaches told Mickey Lomis and
Speaker 4: the Saints know this, Know this head coaching search Mike
Speaker 4: Mike Drabel was requested for an interview, didn't take an interview.
Speaker 4: They reached out to Ben Johnson for an interview. This
Speaker 4: never got reported, but I'm reporting it on NFL Daily.
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson never got back to him, said like, basically,
Speaker 4: what are you doing? Call it to me, like, come on,
Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn.
Speaker 1: And he has ties to that building. He was never
Speaker 1: in that building, but he has.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Aaron Glenn, like the you know, the favorite that
Speaker 4: was gonna take the job.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 4: He he doesn't even do an in person interview, like
Speaker 4: everyone's gonna everyone's like everyone's little story. They add, oh
Speaker 4: was because of the snowstorm. It wasn't because of the snowstorm.
Speaker 4: He always wanted the jet job.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: Joe Brady said it.
Speaker 2: He said it. He literally said that this was the
Speaker 2: only job I wanted. So you can trust the man.
Speaker 4: Joe Brady stayed in Buffalo, also declined to in person interview.
Speaker 4: And then Cliff Kingsbury didn't even take a virtual interview.
Speaker 4: That's five coaches that told the same snow and so
Speaker 4: as fans and as us for our podcast, you we
Speaker 4: can we can squint as some things that killing Moore
Speaker 4: has done with the Cowboys. I know, the charger stint
Speaker 4: was a little rough. We can and look at the
Speaker 4: things he's done with the Eagles and people be like, oh,
Speaker 4: he has a great offensive line. He has, say Colin
Speaker 4: Barkley has at this point, we don't care, like we
Speaker 4: don't care because if it wasn't gonna be Kellen Moore,
Speaker 4: and again it's all likely potentially gonna happen, potentially isn't
Speaker 4: gonna be Kellen Moore. It literally was either gonna be.
Speaker 4: And the Mike McCarthy thing was funny because they were
Speaker 4: just they were putting Mike McCarthy on the back burner
Speaker 4: like he was just like a like with a super bowler,
Speaker 4: we'll get to you when we get to you type
Speaker 4: of thing, to the point where he was like, no, like,
Speaker 4: I'm not wasting my time if it's not it was
Speaker 4: gonna be Darren Rizzy, or it was gonna be potentially
Speaker 4: Drawing Rooded and uh.
Speaker 1: Eh, yes you got you guys are so down on
Speaker 1: the riz, you know Darren Rizzy, I mean Aaron Glenn
Speaker 1: was happy to have him up there on the podium
Speaker 1: with him in New York, so he was excited to
Speaker 1: have to have Rizzy Ryan, what do you what are
Speaker 1: you feeling about a potential Kellen Moore era and have
Speaker 1: you come to terms? I think this means that Mickey
Speaker 1: Loomis is keeping keeping all the power that that he's had.
Speaker 2: At least it seems like it's headed that way.
Speaker 1: You guys can tell me you're you're more connected than
Speaker 1: I am if you if you think any differently, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, it seems like it. But we you know, we
Speaker 3: really don't know. It's just been seeming like there's a
Speaker 3: lot of weird stuff going on in the In the
Speaker 3: Saints building, he had like multiple gms on the staff.
Speaker 3: Randy Mueller was back, he had Dave Ziggler in there.
Speaker 3: You know he's got he's got Dave said, get me
Speaker 3: out of here. I mean, Ziggler was a part of
Speaker 3: coaching interviews and meanwhile he's trying to become an assistant
Speaker 3: GM somewhere else. It's just a mess. It's a mess.
Speaker 3: I'm hoping like Gail or at least like Da Dennis Lusha,
Speaker 3: team president, is like realizing that there's a problem here.
Speaker 3: You know, so many coaches, I mean, Joe Brady didn't
Speaker 3: take anything. I mean, Joe Brady, one of the most ambitious,
Speaker 3: you know, young coaches in the league, just said, nah,
Speaker 3: I'm just loving his life. I don't want I don't
Speaker 3: want that Mickey Loomis life. And that's the thing people
Speaker 3: really missing out on. You think it's oh, it's the salary,
Speaker 3: campus the roster, blah blah blahlah blah, it's Mickey Loomis.
Speaker 3: Like it's a trip Bulky type situation where coaches don't
Speaker 3: want to work with him, you know, And unfortunately, it
Speaker 3: doesn't look like that's gonna change a sat But maybe
Speaker 3: we don't know, Maybe we'll move into a different role.
Speaker 3: Maybe he'll you know, come to come some kind of
Speaker 3: self realization, like like what he Johnson is like, Look,
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna leave my guys alone and let them
Speaker 3: do their thing. So we'll see. But Kellen Moore like, look, man,
Speaker 3: he's had a couple of top you know, a couple
Speaker 3: of top ten offenses as far as like you know,
Speaker 3: EPA per Play or d v o A. You know,
Speaker 3: he had the terrible charge a stint. You know that.
Speaker 3: I'm really interested to find out what is his top
Speaker 3: quarterback because everywhere he's been the quarterback has already been
Speaker 3: in place. I'm curious to see what is his style.
Speaker 3: Who does he want, you know, even if it's in
Speaker 3: this draft or if it's somebody that's on the team,
Speaker 3: does he want to keep like a Spencer Randler. I
Speaker 3: don't see him being a damn Car guy, but maybe
Speaker 3: he is. I hope not, but maybe he is.
Speaker 1: Well, when you say about the job being a little
Speaker 1: poisonous in terms of all these guys turning it down,
Speaker 1: and I think about Mickey Loomis, I think about his
Speaker 1: press conference when he's so steadfast about how Derek Carr
Speaker 1: is part of the future and we don't know if
Speaker 1: that's going to be the case, but that might be
Speaker 1: a turnoff for coaches. So if this guy's in charge
Speaker 1: ultimately and he's back in it, I don't really believe
Speaker 1: in this plan because for listeners out there, you know,
Speaker 1: Curious Car doesn't have that much guaranteed money right now
Speaker 1: on his contract. I think it's ten million dollars, which
Speaker 1: teams eat all the time to get rid of. But
Speaker 1: if he's gonna be if if they decide by March
Speaker 1: they're keeping him, then then they're guaranteeing them. You know,
Speaker 1: another year at that that big number and yeah, thirty
Speaker 1: more million dollars and uh pushes more money into the future.
Speaker 2: And so they haven't made that decision. Let's wrap with this.
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford is going to play football in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: according to our Ian Rappaport at NFL Network, not a surprise.
Speaker 1: I was actually surprised it was even a question. He
Speaker 1: was pretty clear right after the season that I think
Speaker 1: I'm playing well enough. And the way Ian reported it,
Speaker 1: he just said something has to happen with the contract
Speaker 1: for Stafford and that remains to be seen. Stafford's do
Speaker 1: twenty seven million in twenty twenty five based on his
Speaker 1: mini holdout which lasted like a literally two hours that
Speaker 1: everyone forgot in twenty twenty four, Like, he's not going
Speaker 1: to play for that money, so they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: work out a new contract. And this last one just
Speaker 1: felt kind of papered over. And do the Rams want
Speaker 1: to commit a couple of years of guaranteed money to
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford? Can they come to a contractual agreement or
Speaker 1: the fact that they're leaving this door open, are they
Speaker 1: gonna let Stafford and his agent maybe look around and
Speaker 1: see if there's a trade out there, because if so,
Speaker 1: First of all, Saints would be kind of interesting, but
Speaker 1: I don't know if you'd want to go there. Second second,
Speaker 1: I actually think he'd be the best quarterback available. I
Speaker 1: mean i'd take him over Darnold. I'd certainly take him
Speaker 1: over Fields, and maybe i'd take him over cam warden
Speaker 1: Shoud or Sanders because if I'm not that convinced, if
Speaker 1: I'm the Titans, let's say and that these guys are
Speaker 1: really worth the number one overall pick, maybe I'd rather
Speaker 1: take Abdul Carter and trade like a future second and
Speaker 1: get Matthew Stafford. You know, and I think that could
Speaker 1: be an option for a number of teams, Giants, Browns, Raiders, Like,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of teams out there where Stafford could
Speaker 1: could make some sense.
Speaker 2: What do you ryan think about Stafford?
Speaker 1: I can't imagine the Saints getting in on them, but
Speaker 1: just like where he would fit in this, in this
Speaker 1: whole thing, because I do think there's something there. Maybe
Speaker 1: all I've wasted my time talking about it, but I
Speaker 1: really think they're almost putting it out there for other
Speaker 1: teams to step in and say, Okay, Like I think
Speaker 1: they're they're doing a little test balloon like your Saints
Speaker 1: did with John Gruden three weeks ago.
Speaker 2: Oh, would people be mad if we hired John?
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like that's what the that's what
Speaker 1: the Rams are doing right now with Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does feel like that. And I mean, would
Speaker 3: the Saints go with matt Matthew Stafford, I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't think it would be out of the picture. It's
Speaker 3: it would be it would be like they they have
Speaker 3: to figure out what they want to do as far
Speaker 3: as like overall, like overall, are we doing like a
Speaker 3: rebuild thing or are we going to try to you know,
Speaker 3: be in the hunt again for another year? That'll be
Speaker 3: the question.
Speaker 1: But it's going to be this is the problem with
Speaker 1: not having your coach, by the way, not to cut
Speaker 1: you out and continue, but like he's going to be
Speaker 1: the last one to hire all of his coaches others
Speaker 1: like this. If this Matthew staf Afford thing happens, it
Speaker 1: probably will happen before the Super Bowl, because that's when
Speaker 1: it happened before. It's when Kirk Cousins happened, like it's
Speaker 1: happening right now. Potentially, what did you go on.
Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford's trade value, like that's such a fascinating because
Speaker 5: he has what maybe a year left, maybe two at
Speaker 5: the most, Like what is his what is his trade value?
Speaker 4: Like fair trade value for Matthew staff No.
Speaker 1: No idea, no idea, because all it takes is two teams.
Speaker 1: To me, if you're the best quarterback on the market
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five, then you should have some value. Now,
Speaker 1: whether that's like a late second or it's like a fourth,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I would think it'd be somewhere in
Speaker 1: that range. I don't think you're getting first round picks
Speaker 1: for Matthew Stafford, but for the Rams it's it's a
Speaker 1: little mystifying, honestly, but I think it it might be
Speaker 1: a little bit of the same issue that happened with
Speaker 1: Jared Goff that I I don't know. Sean McVay is
Speaker 1: a little like Gruden in this way where he's always
Speaker 1: his eyes are always wandering, and he always wants the
Speaker 1: guy who can like run his scheme a perfect way,
Speaker 1: and when it's Stafford there, it's kind of the Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford scheme. It's kind of like, I don't know that
Speaker 1: much about your boy, Kellen Moore, because like this, Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurt the Eagles offense is just the Jalen Hurts offense.
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter who's the coordinator there.
Speaker 1: They look the same year after year like it's just
Speaker 1: what Jalen Hurts likes to do. And it makes sense
Speaker 1: you try to help your quarterback out. But uh, I
Speaker 1: think I think something could happen here. Keep an eye out.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Intriguing.
Speaker 4: Get like, would I'd be all for Matthew Stafford for
Speaker 4: maybe like a yeah, they got they got a third
Speaker 4: from the the the Marshall Lattimore.
Speaker 3: What if the Rams say we'll give you Matthew Stafford
Speaker 3: and our twenty sixth pick for you a ninth pick?
Speaker 3: Oh flip sat so they can get Jackson duck baby.
Speaker 2: He brought it back around.
Speaker 1: Love you guys, The Saints Block Party podcast, Ryan and
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Speaker 1: wherever you can get your podcast. Thanks guys, Thank thank
Speaker 1: you for being our first ever Senior Bowl correspondence. Hopefully
Speaker 1: you guys can do it again next year.
Speaker 3: Thank thanks for having us.
Speaker 2: All right, I'll see you guys. Uh. That was Ryan
Speaker 2: and Adam.
Speaker 1: As we wrap up, one other big item of news
Speaker 1: today that I did want to get into because it's
Speaker 1: the biggest NFL story that came across as we're taping
Speaker 1: on Thursday. It's about Justin Tucker. It's a story from
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Banner, a website where they spoke with six
Speaker 1: massage therapists who accused Tucker of inappropriate behavior during massage sessions.
Speaker 1: The incidents allegedly took place between twenty sixteen and twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: Tucker denies the allegations very strongly. E League spokesman said
Speaker 1: they first became aware of the allegations from a reporter
Speaker 1: investigating the story, as they were previously not shared with
Speaker 1: the NFL. And what I would say if you're listening
Speaker 1: to this and you have an opinion on it, or
Speaker 1: you want to have an opinion or your interest and
Speaker 1: go read the article because it's free to read. I
Speaker 1: think it's very thorough, very detailed, very specific reporting with
Speaker 1: six different massage therapists who spoke directly to the site,
Speaker 1: did not know each other before or about each other's stories,
Speaker 1: and the stories are very similar to each other.
Speaker 2: And they're very credible.
Speaker 1: Because of that Tucker statement really attacked the Baltimore Banner
Speaker 1: pretty aggressively. Did not directly address a lot of the
Speaker 1: allegations other than denying it. But I did notice that
Speaker 1: a lot of it was against the newspaper in their
Speaker 1: reporting practices, and not specifically about the on the record
Speaker 1: allegations that the sixth Massage therapists made against Tucker. So
Speaker 1: we'll keep an eye on what happens with the Ravens
Speaker 1: kicker moving forward. Tough note to end the week on,
Speaker 1: and this is the end of the NFL Daily Week.
Speaker 1: For the first time since July, we will not be
Speaker 1: talking about any weekend football because we were doing Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame Game week, we were doing preseason football, those
Speaker 1: shows with Nick Shook, and of course the entire regular season.
Speaker 1: We will be back on Monday. I'm really looking forward
Speaker 1: to next week. We're gonna do some All Pro final
Speaker 1: voting and some end of season honors that Jordan Rodrigue
Speaker 1: of the Athletic and I are going to start off
Speaker 1: the week with some awards, and then we're going to
Speaker 1: be headed to New Orleans. We'll hear from Nick Shuk
Speaker 1: who will be there at opening night, and I will
Speaker 1: be there with Jordan and Nick Schook on the ground
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. And we have an amazing set of
Speaker 1: people that we are interviewing throughout the course of the week.
Speaker 1: They're so good that I honestly don't want to tease them,
Speaker 1: because I've been through these Super Bowls enough that you
Speaker 1: never know.
Speaker 2: Some of them change at the last minute.
Speaker 1: But it is a great lineup of guests that I'm
Speaker 1: really looking forward to talking to in my favorite city
Speaker 1: on Earth, the best city in America, New Orleans, Louisiana.
Speaker 1: Also wanted to remind everyone both Jordan Rodrieg and myself
Speaker 1: will be part of a show Mina Kimes is putting
Speaker 1: together Monday night, February third, at the Belasco Theater downtown
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. All the proceeds are going to wildlife
Speaker 1: relief effort, so it mean a lot. If any of
Speaker 1: you guys can come out to the show, I would
Speaker 1: love to see you, would love to meet you. There
Speaker 1: some really cool guests like Kobe Turner. We're also auctioning
Speaker 1: off a signed Kobe Turner jersey. There's gonna be cool giveaways.
Speaker 1: If you're fans of Mina or fans of the NFL
Speaker 1: Daily Hope to see you there. All right, let's hit
Speaker 1: the music and get the heck out of here. Appreciate
Speaker 1: Ryan and Adam. They get it done.
Speaker 2: I mean it.
Speaker 1: The most entertaining team podcast out there. Saints Block Party
Speaker 1: Podcast was great to hear their sights and sounds from
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yes, when we.
Speaker 1: Have a weekend without football, weirdly, that's how you know
Speaker 1: football is back.
Speaker 2: See you Monday,