WEBVTT - Senior Bowl Practices Recap, Stafford's Return

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to NFL Daily, where the Draft is starting in Mobile.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Greg Rosenthal in my garage and I'm joined by

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<v Speaker 1>my two friends, Adam West and Ryan Wolf of the

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<v Speaker 1>Saints Block Party podcast, our Senior Bowl correspondents out there

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<v Speaker 1>in Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>What is happening Adam and Ryan sharing a mic here.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope this isn't awkward for you guys, But you

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<v Speaker 1>look great. You got the merch, you look relaxed. You've

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<v Speaker 1>been boots on the ground here for a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days in Mobile.

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<v Speaker 3>We have.

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<v Speaker 4>It's been it's been a very fun, exciting, little tiring,

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<v Speaker 4>very busy. What three days since we've been out of

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<v Speaker 4>a week, you know, it came in. But before we

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<v Speaker 4>even talk about the Senior Bowl, I just want I

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<v Speaker 4>want to just kind of take it in. I want

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<v Speaker 4>to just give you love, Greg, and because first, you

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<v Speaker 4>know you've been doing NFL Daily, you know, doing your

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<v Speaker 4>your shows with Patrick Claybond, You're doing your shows with

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<v Speaker 4>Steve Wish.

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<v Speaker 3>You have them on, you have me and Ryan on.

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<v Speaker 3>We have done. I wanted to Dante some.

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<v Speaker 4>Love who's helped us and he's part of our Saint

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<v Speaker 4>splot Pipe podcast community and being at the Senior Bowl,

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<v Speaker 4>being at these events, being in the stands, being at

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<v Speaker 4>the you know, Ryan, what's at the pressure when Jim

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<v Speaker 4>Naggi had his opener. There's not a lot of representation

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<v Speaker 4>because media is still white and still male, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>what it looks like. And it's just it's just a

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<v Speaker 4>juxtaposition to me because it's like the country, the president

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<v Speaker 4>is like, let's get it, let's do it. The deis

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<v Speaker 4>and and being in the stands and just seeing how

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<v Speaker 4>football is covered. I just want to give some love

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<v Speaker 4>to you for just being real and being authentic and

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<v Speaker 4>being just being who you are of you know, not

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<v Speaker 4>just opportunity, but you you recognize really we appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Greg, I recognize ball knowers. That's what I recognize. And

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<v Speaker 1>people that can make me make me laugh, and.

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<v Speaker 2>People that are there.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish, I wish we had the money that we'd

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<v Speaker 1>be sending you guys out to be our correspondence.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm calling you that you guys are out there

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<v Speaker 2>on your own dime.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, UH supporting your podcast and everyone should check

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<v Speaker 1>that out. Saints Block Party podcast. They got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of good interviews this week on their Patreon. UH and

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<v Speaker 1>uh boots on the ground. It's cool and yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a good call with the draft community, especially

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<v Speaker 1>even even amongst the NFL media community, is particularly one note.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've never been down there before. Ryan, you lived

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<v Speaker 1>there first of all, Like what I didn't really think about.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was just introducing you. But Adam West and

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Wolf. You guys got some like broadcast superhero type

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<v Speaker 1>names here right now? You know, like that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>should be in front of the camera with Adam.

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<v Speaker 3>You just named it be Ryan Wolf.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not even I did actually think that's your name.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I saw that's what you went by, a boot,

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<v Speaker 1>that blue sky, that boy Wolf. I was like, Damn,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know his actual name was Ryn Wolf.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not it's not just sound Ryan Wolf, not related.

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<v Speaker 3>But I love.

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<v Speaker 2>What what's it? What's it been like this week?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into the players, cause the thing that stands

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<v Speaker 1>out to me the most just from watching your guys

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<v Speaker 1>covered is how convinced Adam is that Jackson Dart, the

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<v Speaker 1>Ole miss quarterback who I happen to talk a decent

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<v Speaker 1>amount with Nate ticeon. And we'll stick to some of

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<v Speaker 1>the big names some of the top fifty players that

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<v Speaker 1>are there in Mobile. But quarterbacks always interesting. Your team

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<v Speaker 1>needs a quarterback long term, of course, despite you know

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<v Speaker 1>the presence of Spencer Rattler. But thinking big picture, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>amazed how convinced Adam Is, who I know has good

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<v Speaker 1>contact throughout the league, that this guy is going top ten,

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<v Speaker 1>top fifteen, Like nobody's saying that yet.

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<v Speaker 5>Why are you so confident, I'll say at least top fifteen.

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<v Speaker 5>I just there's just there's there's buzz that.

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<v Speaker 4>He will potentially may have a bow Knicks type of

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<v Speaker 4>bump where there's just gonna be a team that falls

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<v Speaker 4>falls in love with him as a prospect. And Greg,

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<v Speaker 4>we know how it is in the draft when there's

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<v Speaker 4>teams when it comes to this quarterback thirst, we see

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<v Speaker 4>it oftentimes. Again, what's gonna be interesting is is there

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be that restraint that we saw in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>two in a down quarterback draft when you have the

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<v Speaker 4>can you pick it Malik Willis draft and we don't see,

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<v Speaker 4>we don't see the thirst come to fruition or is

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<v Speaker 4>there gonna be a team that the Steelers, the Rams

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<v Speaker 4>and you and you know, we don't know what's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>going wrong with Matthew Stafford. Is there gonna be a

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<v Speaker 4>team that's gonna feel like they can squint and a

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<v Speaker 4>just ask you this, Well, let's go back to last year,

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<v Speaker 4>around the same time last year, with anyone talking about

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<v Speaker 4>bo Nicks going at tenth in the drought.

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<v Speaker 2>No, and at this time of year.

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<v Speaker 1>He was getting knocked a little bit for not having

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<v Speaker 1>the best senior ball week, which I think informed a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the coverage afterwards. But that doesn't doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna happen with everyone. Ryan, what did what did

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<v Speaker 1>you see out of Jackson Dart this week? Let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>start there on the field.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he looked He looked good. That's that's the

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<v Speaker 3>thing about him. He looks the part. If you just

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<v Speaker 3>watch him, you know, move around, just the command of

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<v Speaker 3>the offense and all that stuff. He looks the part.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. As a personally, I just it would definitely

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<v Speaker 3>be an overdraft, like for him to go in the

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<v Speaker 3>top five, top fifteen or top ten. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like Ed, I'm just saying you could have made that

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<v Speaker 3>argument about bo Knicks last year, but I still I

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<v Speaker 3>struggle to see it with dark But I do see

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<v Speaker 3>the uh tools, The tools are there, and you could

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<v Speaker 3>see the tools that would entice an NFL team that's

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<v Speaker 3>thirsty for a quarterback, because there's like a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>teams this year that really need quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Why just because he's like he's just big and athletic

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<v Speaker 1>and handsome basically.

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<v Speaker 3>And he has a good arm. It's not It was

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<v Speaker 3>funny during to see the Senior Bowl week, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the first two practices he wasn't really on corking it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, man, where is this arm? You know

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<v Speaker 3>that I was supposed to hear about. Today when he

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<v Speaker 3>had like the team drills going against the defense, you

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<v Speaker 3>saw him let it loose a little more and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>drive the ball a little more. Not that he has

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<v Speaker 3>like a huge Matthew Stafford type on and that like that,

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<v Speaker 3>but he hasn't, you know, a decent nice arm. So

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<v Speaker 3>I just think maybe the quarterback thirst meets the tools

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<v Speaker 3>and he could get boosted up for me personally. But

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<v Speaker 3>if that's what they if you're hearing that now and

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<v Speaker 3>everybody's buzzing about them, it always starts little buzz and

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<v Speaker 3>then come April it's like, okay, of course you of

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<v Speaker 3>course he went top top fifty, you know, just saying,

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<v Speaker 3>let me just put it out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, then you better be right.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you're going strong on this you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>I think he might go at nine to the Saints

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<v Speaker 1>that you're feeling on top fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I didn't say I would just put it.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just wanted to just gauge the post of

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<v Speaker 4>how Saints fans would feel. Okay, I didn't say he

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<v Speaker 4>was going the Saint.

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<v Speaker 2>You put it out there. I saw what you did.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't don't try to gasp me.

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<v Speaker 1>He he was forty third on Daniel Jeremiah's top fifty prospects,

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<v Speaker 1>So that caught my attention because I don't even think

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<v Speaker 1>he's that high on other people's. And that's that's Dania

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremiah's opinion, and it's it's not his mock draft, but

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he from that sort of respected evaluator,

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<v Speaker 1>that he's going to get that high, then he's got

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to be QB three, and then some of

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<v Speaker 1>the push for the quarterbacks could happen. I would push

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<v Speaker 1>back and say cam Ward going top fifteen and Shader

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<v Speaker 1>Sanders going top fifteen, that's the push because if they

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<v Speaker 1>were in last year's draft, those guys might be behind

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<v Speaker 1>bow Nicks they or right around him, they might be

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<v Speaker 1>about QB six, QB five, QB six. I think they

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<v Speaker 1>would definitely would have been behind Pennix and and Pennox

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<v Speaker 1>was QB four, So so to me, those guys going

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<v Speaker 1>relatively early there, I think there is a point where

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta have the talent and and we'll see, Like

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<v Speaker 1>he's an intriguing guy. It feels like he maybe has

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<v Speaker 1>a strong like agent going on, like some strong buzzes

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<v Speaker 1>just just happened with this dude from the cornerbacks that

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<v Speaker 1>you saw there this week. Riley Leonard was there, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's because I'm a big Nate Tice fan, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember listening to him talk about him a lot

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<v Speaker 1>last year, Like he's a much bigger Riley Leonard fan

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<v Speaker 1>than I think America is. And Leonard had it yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't up, yeah, hadn't up and down season at Notre

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<v Speaker 1>Day and which probably did not help his his status.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anyone that stuck out to you at quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>other than than Jackson Dart who who Yeah, like I

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<v Speaker 1>was listening to move the sticks. People should check out

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<v Speaker 1>our our podcast on NFL Media, Move the Sticks, who's

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<v Speaker 1>been doing daily recaps, and they I can read between

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<v Speaker 1>the lines. They weren't that impressed with Dart the first

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days, kind of like you and and it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like today from the network coverage, they were more impressed.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there anyone else at quarterback that you liked there

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<v Speaker 1>this week?

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<v Speaker 4>I would say, coming into the Singer Bowl, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>expecting a whole bunch from Dylan Gabriel, the Oregon quarterback,

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<v Speaker 4>And I think he just impressed me just in terms

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<v Speaker 4>of just his his accuracy and he has a probably

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<v Speaker 4>a little more on his on his throne that I

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<v Speaker 4>then anticipated. And everyone everyone likes to just make the

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<v Speaker 4>lazy like, oh, he'd be a perfect like backup quarterback

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<v Speaker 4>for Tula in Miami and then if he gets hurt,

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<v Speaker 4>like there's not like a drop off in the offense.

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<v Speaker 4>Even before the Singer Bowl, but then I watched it,

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, like that would be that would be

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<v Speaker 4>perfect for the Dolphins. If you go to the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 4>season every time to what gets hurt, like they don't

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<v Speaker 4>have an adequate backup situation. They have to completely change

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<v Speaker 4>their offense. Toua was left handed and like you can

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<v Speaker 4>make a lot of like Dylan Gable would make perfect

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<v Speaker 4>sense for them, like in the fourth round or in

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<v Speaker 4>the fifth round because he's left handed and he gets

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<v Speaker 4>it and anyway, but he he's been like impressive and

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<v Speaker 4>what he's able to what he's shown here in Mobile.

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan, do you feel like a scout now?

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<v Speaker 3>Have you?

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you don't have any like imposter syndrome because

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<v Speaker 1>this is a home game. I've listened to your podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you're from you're living in Mobile. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>from Mobile, but you live nearby, and so it's a

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<v Speaker 1>home game. Like how is it putting on that scouting

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<v Speaker 1>cap and what have you seen?

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<v Speaker 3>It feels natural for me? Man, I love it, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen Moreau he was the guy to look for coming

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<v Speaker 3>into this into this week. Uh, he started out this

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<v Speaker 3>practice his practice week kind of rough. I can't lie,

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<v Speaker 3>like just just as far as accuracy, you know, fumbling

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<v Speaker 3>the ball, interceptions and stuff like that. I thought he

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<v Speaker 3>had a really solid day to day when they had

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<v Speaker 3>the team practices. Also kind of like dark, Uh, impressive kid,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I was there for his his initial presser just

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<v Speaker 3>like an impressive kid that will probably win some GM's

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<v Speaker 3>coaches over in the meeting room. Obviously dripping with talent,

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<v Speaker 3>athletic fast. He can give you the second action plays.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like he has a week on. He's a

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<v Speaker 3>good arm and when he and you watch the tape,

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<v Speaker 3>he does throw accurately at times, but it's just like you,

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<v Speaker 3>he's He's similar to Jalen Hurts was when he came out,

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<v Speaker 3>whereas like, I'm gonna have to kind of build him

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<v Speaker 3>into a passer and use his legs and use his

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<v Speaker 3>playmaking ability to build him along. It's just just one

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<v Speaker 3>of those guys where you just kind of hope that

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<v Speaker 3>he probably got another year, but it doesn't matter now

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<v Speaker 3>he's coming into the NFL, so I let him, let

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<v Speaker 3>him get let him get his reps in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and maybe he'll improve there. So it's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be to see how his process goes along.

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<v Speaker 4>Just a quick and just a little quick thing. I

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<v Speaker 4>found it very interesting that both Mike Tomlin was here

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<v Speaker 4>with author Smith his oh scene very like just just

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<v Speaker 4>a little note together. It's a little interesting note I

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<v Speaker 4>took by being here.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And Milroe is a guy who if you're putting

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<v Speaker 1>them into different buckets of types of quarterbacks strengths weaknesses.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Hurts justin fields, might might be another one

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<v Speaker 1>where where some of the strengths some of the weaknesses.

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<v Speaker 2>And to me, he he has potential to be a

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<v Speaker 2>special runner like like.

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<v Speaker 1>Already right, So that's such a great floor to start from.

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<v Speaker 1>And to me, he seems like a much more likely

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<v Speaker 1>QB three. If you're telling me someone's gonna get pushed

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<v Speaker 1>up the board a little bit, he.

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<v Speaker 2>Makes more sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And Hurts is a really interesting comparison because I'll always

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<v Speaker 1>remember Jeremiah at the last second with his top fifty

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<v Speaker 1>prospects right before the draft, finally putting Hurts, and he

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<v Speaker 1>just said, there's too many people around the NFL that

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<v Speaker 1>have told me he's just a special person in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of what a leader and a worker he is. That

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna just bet on him and see what happens

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<v Speaker 1>and put him in there. And it's funny, it's right

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<v Speaker 1>about where he went in the draft. He didn't go

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<v Speaker 1>first round, but he did go top fifty, and now

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<v Speaker 1>here he is in his.

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<v Speaker 2>Second Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>No one's putting him as a top five quarterback. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't put him on QB Island. We might have to

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<v Speaker 1>have a revote if he wins a Super Bowl. But

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<v Speaker 1>he is coming off as his best game of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say about Hurts.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a little bit of a sidetrack.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I just finished the coach the film from

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<v Speaker 1>last week and I and I went through, I went

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<v Speaker 1>through my notes, I went through like the PFF score

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff, and I was like, that was his.

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<v Speaker 2>Best game of the season. And then I was singing

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<v Speaker 2>like two.

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<v Speaker 1>Years ago was the best game of his career and

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<v Speaker 1>it was the Super Bowl. I mean, if this is

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<v Speaker 1>any other sport, we would call that a big game player. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little inconsistent because not all of his playoff

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<v Speaker 1>games have been magic. In fact, he's had some just

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<v Speaker 1>okay ones, including this year. But it's pretty cool that

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<v Speaker 1>the best game of his career is in the Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>the best game of his season is in the NFC Championship.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what you want. That's what you want

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<v Speaker 1>on your leader, right. I know he's not like Patrick Mahomes,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's kind of what you want. It makes me

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<v Speaker 1>afraid to pick against.

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<v Speaker 4>Him, and he was drafted in the second round, and

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<v Speaker 4>he was considered like a quote unquote project quarterback, Like

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<v Speaker 4>that's that's true quarterback development.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember they were like, we can use him as a

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<v Speaker 3>tsom Hill. Maybe it was like we are in the

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<v Speaker 3>super Bowl for the second time.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, you got to make sure Adam's not just

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<v Speaker 2>hogging that Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's move. Let's move to the tight end position.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, you gotta it's like tilted towards you.

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<v Speaker 1>I see what you're doing. Adam's kind of the host

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<v Speaker 1>between you two, and he's trying to get preferential sound

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<v Speaker 1>treatment here. The tight ends, the tight ends in Mobile

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<v Speaker 1>looked like they were awesome from Afar, it's a really

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<v Speaker 1>good tight end class. I keep referring to DJ because

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta have some some foundation to build my rankings from.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's got two tight ends in his top ten

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<v Speaker 1>overall players, which is wild their top fifteen overall players,

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<v Speaker 1>and Tyler Warren is one of them, and they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>in Mobile. But he had two others that were in Mobile,

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<v Speaker 1>Mason Taylor, the son of Jason Taylor, and Elijah Arroyo,

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<v Speaker 1>who had a bunch of great looking catches from my

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<v Speaker 1>eyes this week, just from the TV copy. Ryan, give

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<v Speaker 1>me your impressions on like Wich, which of those two

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<v Speaker 1>you like better?

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<v Speaker 2>Just what stood out with those two.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing about a royal is just the way he moves,

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<v Speaker 3>man like you you watch him quickly, you're gonna see it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, Okay, this guy is six four and a half,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, two hundred and whatever pounds, two hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>sixty pounds, moving like this, come like this this. You

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<v Speaker 3>could easily see him being special in the offense. Now

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<v Speaker 3>we know how tight ends work. You know, you could

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<v Speaker 3>be as special as you want. To be an effective

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<v Speaker 3>tight end. You have to do a lot of the

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<v Speaker 3>dirty work. You gotta be able to, you know, somewhat

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<v Speaker 3>block You gotta be able to do things. We'll see

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<v Speaker 3>how he is in that area, you know. But I

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<v Speaker 3>mean just from a talent standpoint and a you know,

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<v Speaker 3>red zone going up. He had a red zone catch today,

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<v Speaker 3>but he went up and attacked the ball. Just looked

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<v Speaker 3>just like Jimmy Graham, man Like. It just reminded me

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<v Speaker 3>of Jimmy Graham from back in the day. So like,

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<v Speaker 3>just awesome. I know, Ty Warren, he wasn't at the

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<v Speaker 3>Senior Bowl, but he's like, you know, mostly the tight

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<v Speaker 3>end one for most people, Adam is thinking like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a Royal better than Ty Warren. You know that's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be one of the fas. But there's a

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<v Speaker 3>there's so many tight ends in this class though. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got Harold Fanning. He's out of where's he got

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<v Speaker 3>out of Bowling Green. He's super talented, didn't shine that

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<v Speaker 3>much this week at Singing Bowl, but you know his

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<v Speaker 3>team speak for himself, he's really an athletic.

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<v Speaker 4>And for for Mason Taylor, I think this tightening class

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<v Speaker 4>in running back class is very much like ice cream

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<v Speaker 4>is just like what is your flavor? And with Royal

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<v Speaker 4>you get so like with Mason Taylor, it's like he's

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<v Speaker 4>more of a what's it like, a more complete tight

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<v Speaker 4>end in terms of someone that maybe you can play

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<v Speaker 4>him more and more in line. He's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>more of a factor in the run game, but still fluid,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe not as fluid. And then someone a friend of

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<v Speaker 4>mine made a great comparison I think for Mason Taylor,

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<v Speaker 4>like as a pro Green Bay Packers Luke musk Grave

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<v Speaker 4>as a pro comparison, I felt like that was very

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<v Speaker 4>apt and I feel like Mason Taylor is going to

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<v Speaker 4>be a better role player than he was in college.

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<v Speaker 4>We actually actually got to have a quick interview with

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<v Speaker 4>him and he very so very But this running backs

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<v Speaker 4>and tight ends are just going to it's just what

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<v Speaker 4>do you want out of out of your players? Really,

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<v Speaker 4>what it's going to boil down to for both those

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<v Speaker 4>positions in this draft class.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an interesting comp you know, from I gotta I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get in on the tape on these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to watch it. It must grave I

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<v Speaker 2>never was.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he was as natural he he

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<v Speaker 1>definitely has the speed. I think just being Jason Taylor's

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<v Speaker 1>son is gonna get him pushed up.

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<v Speaker 2>People just want to and there is something to.

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<v Speaker 4>That quick thing to his Mason Taylor or sorry, Mason

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<v Speaker 4>Taylor's mom is zach Zak, Thomas's former Texas Tech linebackers sister,

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<v Speaker 4>right right.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that back in the day when they were playing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was like, he's like born to be an

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<v Speaker 4>NFL player.

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<v Speaker 2>I see it at the NFL. I think about this

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. People are just like.

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<v Speaker 1>All these athlete sons, you know, they have the jeans and.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why they become great players.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, yeah, that helps, of course, but a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people have good jeans, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>are athletic. What they have is a freaking personal NFL

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<v Speaker 1>coach in their house with them twenty four to seven,

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<v Speaker 1>who's coaching them up from the time they're three years

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<v Speaker 1>old through this whole process. Jason Taylor is literally there.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't even imagine how valuable that is because I

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<v Speaker 1>see how.

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<v Speaker 3>Crazy they not here the whole week.

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<v Speaker 1>Right Like, I see how serious they are about their

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<v Speaker 1>NFL flag leagues, and that continues up to their when

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<v Speaker 1>they start playing tackle to their high school and as

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<v Speaker 1>long as the kids love it, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>their kids don't like that, a lot of them. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like one out of three of the kids, don't, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one out of three loves it or whatever. But

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<v Speaker 1>the one that does, it's like they've they've got this

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<v Speaker 1>free coach who knows everything and knows how to train

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<v Speaker 1>and is gonna help you all along the way. And then, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, they also have basically unlimited resources to

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<v Speaker 1>get you on the best teams and get more coaches

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<v Speaker 1>and get more help. It's like that's why they're all

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<v Speaker 1>making the league. It's not just the jeans, it's and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't of course you don't blame them, like why

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't Why wouldn't you do that to help your son?

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<v Speaker 1>Arroyo being that high potentially going up to TU one

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<v Speaker 1>is really interesting. He does seem like there's always like

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<v Speaker 1>a pass catcher at the Senior Bowl who I think

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<v Speaker 1>helps themselves a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>McConkey was maybe was maybe one.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe it was a Arroyo this week, because for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>he was at the bottom of the top fifty for DJ.

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<v Speaker 2>He had Taylor thirty five.

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<v Speaker 1>And like I said, he had two tight ends in

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<v Speaker 1>the top top ten I believe, way ahead of him,

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<v Speaker 1>And so maybe that's someone that's gonna be jumping up boards.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there anyone at wide receiver? Will start with you,

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<v Speaker 1>Adam that you like this week? Now in general, just

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<v Speaker 1>for the listeners if you're kind of just getting up

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<v Speaker 1>to speed on this class. Not great at quarterback overall,

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<v Speaker 1>really strong at tight end and running back. Not believed

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<v Speaker 1>to be as deep or as top heavy as the

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<v Speaker 1>recent wide receivers class, which has been just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>crazy and the Senior Bowl reflected that it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>too Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>There's there's two players. Uh, there's Tess Johnson who at Oregon,

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<v Speaker 4>who wide receiver. He's gonna I'm fast fascinated to know

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<v Speaker 4>where he's gonna go. He's he's very very small in stature.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's like one hundred and fifty pounds one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and fifty six pounds, very diminutive in size. But

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<v Speaker 4>his movement skills and the way he wins reminds me

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit of Davonta Smith from the Eagles. He's

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<v Speaker 4>not as tall as DeVante Smith from the Eagles, but

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<v Speaker 4>just how he wins. He was almost unguardable here, just

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of, you know, no one could cover him

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<v Speaker 4>and if.

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<v Speaker 2>Too strong, like Davante Smith, DeVante Smith is like no, okay, no,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not the.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing that's surprised you about the slim reaper, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>hit him with a kill shot and he bounces right back,

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<v Speaker 1>and he always like embodies people for one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five pounds or whatever he is.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, Tes Johnson, excuse me, did play for Oregon,

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<v Speaker 4>who was the number one, you know team largely throughout

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<v Speaker 4>the season, and was like one of their best weapons.

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<v Speaker 4>And teams knew going in that they needed to stop

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<v Speaker 4>test Johnson, and a lot of teams didn't have answers

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<v Speaker 4>for him. So he very much we made made himself,

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<v Speaker 4>made him out well here in mobile and Iowa State

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<v Speaker 4>receiver Jaydon Higgins tall six four. I compare him a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit to that of like the Keyon Coleman type,

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<v Speaker 4>the you know, win contested balls. Maybe not the best

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of maybe struggles a little bit with separation

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of like from cornerbacks, but it maybe doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>have that I won't have that production that you will

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<v Speaker 4>want from a rookie receiver. But also could be that

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<v Speaker 4>Drake London type you know eventually because he has that

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<v Speaker 4>that that same type of body type and frame he

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<v Speaker 4>does and has very very nice hands, very very soft

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<v Speaker 4>hands as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that that's huge. Where Ryan do you think like

0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:23.120
<v Speaker 1>these guys would go? Ted Johnson is someone that it's

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<v Speaker 1>like one one place scouting Steve Balazola likes to talk about,

0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:29.879
<v Speaker 1>which which is funny, but it sometimes sometimes it works

0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:34.080
<v Speaker 1>like one of those plays on the highlights you know

0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:37.919
<v Speaker 1>on TV this week and his Tess Johnson stop and

0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:41.000
<v Speaker 1>start and even to slow down and then speed up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's insane you when you see it, you know, And

0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:45.760
<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, that tracks.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care how small he is.

0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:50.639
<v Speaker 1>Like if if to tow at Well can go in

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth round, and Tank del can go in the third,

0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:55.879
<v Speaker 1>then Tess Johnson can go in the second or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, because that that stop and start was crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>We have presidents now because you know, five years ago,

0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:04.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, there was an argument about Vonte Smith and

0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:06.840
<v Speaker 3>he was coming out. I was like, can he hold

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 3>up in the league? Now we have a bunch of

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:11.160
<v Speaker 3>those guys in the league. Just the way the offenses

0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 3>are now and the way defenses are called, I think

0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:18.040
<v Speaker 3>somebody like to could survive. How you know, can he

0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:20.560
<v Speaker 3>catch ninety balls a year? I don't know. Rondo Moore

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<v Speaker 3>recently too, Yeah, yeah too. So I think he would

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<v Speaker 3>definitely be that like second to third round tier since

0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:30.120
<v Speaker 3>he's not a not only is he slim, but he's

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<v Speaker 3>not tall either, So I think he would kind of

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<v Speaker 3>fall into that kind of mid round day two sweet

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<v Speaker 3>sweet spot where people you know, you know, somebody take

0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:41.879
<v Speaker 3>a chance. But you know, I mean people like Andy Reid,

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<v Speaker 3>people like they they you know, they fire a guy,

0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:47.960
<v Speaker 3>they see it, have a specific vision for a guy,

0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:49.200
<v Speaker 3>they'll go get him. They don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they and they should, Like those guys are valuable.

0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:56.359
<v Speaker 1>You can't tell them, Like I know it took a

0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:58.960
<v Speaker 1>minute to for even Kali Seki, who's a different type

0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:01.240
<v Speaker 1>of player, but for him get going. But you can't

0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:03.640
<v Speaker 1>tell me he's not more valuable than a whole lot

0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:06.200
<v Speaker 1>of second and third round picks that there have been

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<v Speaker 1>over the years.

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<v Speaker 2>So I players like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I that's a great little comparison, like in how they

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<v Speaker 4>both win.

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 3>That's a good one.

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but Tez pops a little more, even at least

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:19.719
<v Speaker 1>to me, it pops even more in terms of just

0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 1>pure Xavier Worthy type. Once we figure him out, that

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:27.760
<v Speaker 1>speed is going to be a major problem. Because Xavier

0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Worthy suddenly went for I'll be talking about it next

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 1>week in New Orleans. But Xavier Worthy somehow went from

0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 1>a pretty rocky rookie year to easily the most important

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:43.280
<v Speaker 1>receiver on the potential future Super Bowl champions.

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Like he is their wide receiver one.

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't care what you say about him, Like they're

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:49.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of building it around him him in Hollywood now

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 1>and like it's working.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the man.

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Let's go to the defensive side. The defensive line for

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 1>this Senior Bowl was really deep, and for this draft

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:01.440
<v Speaker 1>was really deep. Probably the the best position in this

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:04.480
<v Speaker 1>draft is throughout the defensive line. And there were a

0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of good players at the Senior Ball just just

0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 1>to name a few, Mike Green, Shamar Stewart, Walter Nolan

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:17.800
<v Speaker 1>all top thirty players according to Daniel Jeremiah, who stood

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 1>out to you the most, Ryan that you liked off

0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:24.600
<v Speaker 1>the defensive line, and then maybe Adam, you jump in

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:26.160
<v Speaker 1>and can give me another one that you liked.

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<v Speaker 3>Shamar Stewart, he stood out. He's been getting a lot

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.200
<v Speaker 3>of pub I mean, he did so well this week.

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 3>He just said, look, I'm not playing the game. I'm

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm out of here at peace. Like he and his

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:38.399
<v Speaker 3>agent got up out of here. Mike Green did the

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:40.679
<v Speaker 3>same thing. Had a great week. Well. It was funny

0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 3>the first day the defensive lines were not performing well,

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:49.200
<v Speaker 3>like none of the age players are playing well defensive tackle,

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 3>like they were just getting owned by the offense. So

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 3>the next day, day two, all the the d lineman

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:57.879
<v Speaker 3>came in just on fire, just lighting it up. You know,

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:00.600
<v Speaker 3>at the practices on the one on ones. You know,

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:03.359
<v Speaker 3>there's a clip going around Mike Green blowing up the

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:07.159
<v Speaker 3>offensive guard. Uh, and it was you know, so I

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 3>think those two players, Mike Green and Shamarrow like both

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 3>stood out tomorrow to Texas A and m Mike Green

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:16.120
<v Speaker 3>out of Marshall. It was a big week for him

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:18.720
<v Speaker 3>because he's a small school guy. If you go watch

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 3>clips of him online, if you can find him, he's

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 3>just dominating. He's just like a ball in the china shop,

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 3>just going crazy on against small, small school players. So

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:30.199
<v Speaker 3>everybody wanted to see how would he perform against you know,

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:33.960
<v Speaker 3>bigger name, bigger, bigger talented offensive lineman. And he did good.

0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 3>He did good, so you know, his week is pretty

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 3>much over. But other than that, there were you know,

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:41.399
<v Speaker 3>it was kind of hard to really see who really

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:44.719
<v Speaker 3>was shining in the you know as defensive lineman because

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 3>you know, they they get on those one on ones

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 3>and they're letting him go for like two minutes and

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:52.120
<v Speaker 3>it's like, yeah, of course the defensive lineman is winning

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:54.640
<v Speaker 3>right now. The bowl will be gone like five minutes ago.

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 3>So it's like, what do we really learning? You best

0:27:57.080 --> 0:27:58.680
<v Speaker 3>you could do? Is go watch the tape and try

0:27:58.720 --> 0:27:59.359
<v Speaker 3>to figure out.

0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:03.439
<v Speaker 4>How it's It's funny to me because I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>maybe maybe I and this is why I draft.

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:07.919
<v Speaker 5>The draft is such a beauty of the eye of

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 5>the beholder.

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:12.920
<v Speaker 4>A lot of people here let like feel like Mike

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 4>Green had like a great week, and like I I

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 4>feel like his week was like like okay, like at best,

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:23.119
<v Speaker 4>I didn't feel like I didn't feel like he had

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 4>a great day one he got besides like maybe a play.

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:31.240
<v Speaker 4>He got very man handled a lot day one because

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 4>he is he's two fifty and like he's a very

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 4>smaller edge rusher. And then yesterday he had a better

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 4>day and then he had that viral clip and then

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 4>literally he like dipped out, and I felt like his age,

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 4>it was like we've done enough. I do think Mike,

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 4>Mike Greens, you know, is gonna be a first round

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 4>d I and helped me out here. But I feel

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:54.480
<v Speaker 4>like Walter Nolan has had a good week too, and

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 4>I feel like he's going to have a type of

0:28:57.120 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 4>rise that defendsil tackle from the tech from Texas that

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 4>went to the Seahawks.

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 3>Name I'm blinking on Byron Murphy.

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think he's gonna have.

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 2>That's my style of guy.

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Everything I see and hear about Walter Nolan, I'm like, okay,

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I like that.

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 3>He's very Byron Murphy ish. We got to talk. We had,

0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, he was at the podium. We got to

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 3>ask him a.

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 4>Couple of questions in terms of just his natural playing position,

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 4>and I just feel like he's had a he's had

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 4>a good week here and I feel like there he's

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 4>Byron Murphy is esque type of player, and I feel

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 4>like that's like that's his range is where he probably

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 4>is gonna end up going in the draft is as well.

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 3>One thing I liked about I liked about his his interview,

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 3>the questions we asked. He's getting real detailed about the

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 3>positions he liked to play on the defensive line, just

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 3>you know, from three point to one point and all

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 3>a little different incacies in between. I just liked that

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 3>he talked about this stuff because some of these guys

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 3>they're just like, oh, just put me out there and

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go get the quarterback or whatever. But he

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 3>was real educate with it. So that's it's gonna be interesting.

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 3>But he's a good player. If you're watching him on team. Yes,

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 3>you can see that he's just gonna be a good player.

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:06.719
<v Speaker 1>And everyone needs one man. You look at the teams

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that are that are that are still left. You got

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 1>you got Chris Jones on one team. You've got Ed

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Oliver coming off a really good playoff run for the Bills.

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Got j Carter Well.

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 3>I saw Chris Jones crying for the national anthem. I'm like,

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:26.239
<v Speaker 3>it's over, it's over. Big got Uh?

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 1>You got you got Carter Uh for the Eagles, who

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 1>might be the best defensive player in the playoffs. And

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>then even the Commanders like Jerry Newton was making some

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 1>place for them, and Jonathan Allen came back and he

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 1>was looking good, Like you need one of those guys.

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, Nolan is twenty six right now on DJ's board,

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 1>and that that could go up. Mike Green is twenty third.

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Shamar Stewart, who to me reminds me of one of

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 1>those defensive linemen you want on your team that's probably

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:59.200
<v Speaker 1>better as your second defensive like and but that you

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 1>need above average starters who are really athletic. And even

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't finish plays all the time, like he's

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>a guy, people will be excited to work with.

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Josh Sweat is a guy like the Saints defensive.

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you you threw it out there. I don't need

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 2>to go over the offensive line starters or whatever. Let's

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:21.960
<v Speaker 2>talk a little Saints.

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 3>No of this draft stuff.

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, well, you know we talked about Great,

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>We're going to that guy's name.

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 2>Great.

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Gray's a booie. What is the North Dakota State pensive lineman?

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 1>He seems like he's the guy that that stood out

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 1>the most. It actually reminds me a little of Quinn Miners,

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>who I thought was just like a media gimmick because

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>of his big belly at the Senior Bowl a few

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>years ago. Everyone just like telling this story. And he's

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 1>literally the first team All Pro this year, maybe the

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>best guard in the league.

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 4>Is crazy, and he's been a rock here, like a rock,

0:31:56.640 --> 0:32:00.440
<v Speaker 4>and I don't I don't know where he was even

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 4>slotted to go. We're both draft ciccos, but like, I'm

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 4>not so much for draft cickle to know where he

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 4>was slotted to go.

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 2>DJ had him in his top fifty barely.

0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>And again, his name is Grey Zabel North data State

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 1>and he can he can probably play center or guard

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 1>at the next level, like he's played all three positions,

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 1>but that he'll probably play inside as a pro at

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 1>least according to DJ, Yeah, I.

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 4>Would just I'll say this, and we got some pretty good,

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 4>pretty good footage of the one on ones. There weren't

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 4>many one on one one on one on ones with

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 4>the defensive line that he got beat at.

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 3>This is like he's been like he's like a just

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 3>a rock inside.

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 4>So he's definitely made money this week And I think

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 4>you know, I'm not you didn't ask this question, but

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 4>like if you were just to ask me, like the

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 4>player that made the most money here this weekend, because

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 4>that's what the Senior Bowl is all about, right, just

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 4>making money stock, I would probably give that award to

0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 4>Elijah Royal, like I and I think, oh okay, just

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 4>even yesterday at the media day, he had a media

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 4>like a media scrum when just walking in, like walking

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 4>in like he had a scrum of media people around him.

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 4>So he's definitely made himself some money. Our dude, Dante

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 4>made a great comparison just in terms of how he

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 4>moves as a football player. Only people, please, I'm gonna

0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 4>preface it by only he moves like Aaron Hernandez moved

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 4>as a football player like if you just go and

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't just like I'm shake And that's just how

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 4>he moves out the football player as a tight end.

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 4>But for sure, like the biggest person that's made money

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 4>this weekend, for sure has been I think by far

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 4>has been Elijah Royal.

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean that is it's always a tricky comp to make,

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, I preface it, that's a.

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Tricky one to make though on the field though, because.

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Hernandez, if you take out you know, coming into

0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the draft, was a top twenty pick if it wasn't

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>for being Aaron Hernandez, because of his talents in the

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 1>way that he moved, and he was rare in terms

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:12.400
<v Speaker 1>of who he was as a player. You know, there's

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:15.399
<v Speaker 1>one that pops up every few years kind of like him,

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 1>and they usually get taken in the top fifteen or twenty.

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 1>So that is how praise. Let's take actually a quick

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>break and then we're gonna come back. We're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about Kellen Moore maybe becoming the Saints coach,

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>talk a little Matthew Stafford, and then we're gonna get

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 1>to our weekend and send you into the mobile night

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<v Speaker 1>back on NFL Daily.

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<v Speaker 3>This a second, All.

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<v Speaker 2>Right back here on NFL Daily.

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<v Speaker 1>With my guys Adam and Ryan from the Saints Block

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Party podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows what's going on on their OnlyFans or no Patriots? Right,

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 2>that's Patrion. I mean, what's the difference really? Who knows

0:34:57.480 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 2>what's going on? In these interviews?

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Your boy Kellen Moore, it looks like he's gonna take

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 1>this job. And it's so funny, you guys, how you

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 1>went immediately from being so just like what is going

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>on with this Saints head coaching search and we're kind

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:16.399
<v Speaker 1>of sick of Mickey Loomis, No one wants our job,

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 1>And then the second you just get a little with

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 1>over like a kind of good head coaching candidate who

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:25.240
<v Speaker 1>wants to come aboard, You're just like, oh yeah, Kellen

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Moore's man, We're all onboard the Kellen Moore Express.

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:30.800
<v Speaker 2>Explain yourself. Explain yourself.

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:35.239
<v Speaker 4>It's not Darren Rizzy, it's not John Gruden, Greg like,

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:41.800
<v Speaker 4>that's the explanation. And I don't I don't think people

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:48.279
<v Speaker 4>understand and understand how many coaches told Mickey Lomis and

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:52.239
<v Speaker 4>the Saints know this, Know this head coaching search Mike

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 4>Mike Drabel was requested for an interview, didn't take an interview.

0:35:57.880 --> 0:36:00.120
<v Speaker 4>They reached out to Ben Johnson for an interview. This

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:02.800
<v Speaker 4>never got reported, but I'm reporting it on NFL Daily.

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:05.720
<v Speaker 4>Ben Johnson never got back to him, said like, basically,

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 4>what are you doing? Call it to me, like, come on,

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:08.959
<v Speaker 4>Aaron Glenn.

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>And he has ties to that building. He was never

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.320
<v Speaker 1>in that building, but he has.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Aaron Glenn, like the you know, the favorite that

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:17.440
<v Speaker 4>was gonna take the job.

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:18.279
<v Speaker 3>Oh.

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 4>He he doesn't even do an in person interview, like

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:24.880
<v Speaker 4>everyone's gonna everyone's like everyone's little story. They add, oh

0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:27.320
<v Speaker 4>was because of the snowstorm. It wasn't because of the snowstorm.

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:28.440
<v Speaker 4>He always wanted the jet job.

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 5>Joe Brady said it.

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:33.120
<v Speaker 2>He said it. He literally said that this was the

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:35.399
<v Speaker 2>only job I wanted. So you can trust the man.

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 4>Joe Brady stayed in Buffalo, also declined to in person interview.

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:46.440
<v Speaker 4>And then Cliff Kingsbury didn't even take a virtual interview.

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 4>That's five coaches that told the same snow and so

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:56.400
<v Speaker 4>as fans and as us for our podcast, you we

0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:59.439
<v Speaker 4>can we can squint as some things that killing Moore

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:03.320
<v Speaker 4>has done with the Cowboys. I know, the charger stint

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:06.080
<v Speaker 4>was a little rough. We can and look at the

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 4>things he's done with the Eagles and people be like, oh,

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 4>he has a great offensive line. He has, say Colin

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 4>Barkley has at this point, we don't care, like we

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 4>don't care because if it wasn't gonna be Kellen Moore,

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 4>and again it's all likely potentially gonna happen, potentially isn't

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 4>gonna be Kellen Moore. It literally was either gonna be.

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 4>And the Mike McCarthy thing was funny because they were

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 4>just they were putting Mike McCarthy on the back burner

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 4>like he was just like a like with a super bowler,

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:39.719
<v Speaker 4>we'll get to you when we get to you type

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 4>of thing, to the point where he was like, no, like,

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm not wasting my time if it's not it was

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:46.720
<v Speaker 4>gonna be Darren Rizzy, or it was gonna be potentially

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 4>Drawing Rooded and uh.

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Eh, yes you got you guys are so down on

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:55.800
<v Speaker 1>the riz, you know Darren Rizzy, I mean Aaron Glenn

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 1>was happy to have him up there on the podium

0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 1>with him in New York, so he was excited to

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 1>have to have Rizzy Ryan, what do you what are

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 1>you feeling about a potential Kellen Moore era and have

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 1>you come to terms? I think this means that Mickey

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Loomis is keeping keeping all the power that that he's had.

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 2>At least it seems like it's headed that way.

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 1>You guys can tell me you're you're more connected than

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I am if you if you think any differently, I.

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:23.239
<v Speaker 3>Mean, it seems like it. But we you know, we

0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 3>really don't know. It's just been seeming like there's a

0:38:25.960 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 3>lot of weird stuff going on in the In the

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Saints building, he had like multiple gms on the staff.

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 3>Randy Mueller was back, he had Dave Ziggler in there.

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:40.800
<v Speaker 3>You know he's got he's got Dave said, get me

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:43.360
<v Speaker 3>out of here. I mean, Ziggler was a part of

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 3>coaching interviews and meanwhile he's trying to become an assistant

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 3>GM somewhere else. It's just a mess. It's a mess.

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm hoping like Gail or at least like Da Dennis Lusha,

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:58.080
<v Speaker 3>team president, is like realizing that there's a problem here.

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:01.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, so many coaches, I mean, Joe Brady didn't

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 3>take anything. I mean, Joe Brady, one of the most ambitious,

0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, young coaches in the league, just said, nah,

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:11.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm just loving his life. I don't want I don't

0:39:11.719 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 3>want that Mickey Loomis life. And that's the thing people

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:15.880
<v Speaker 3>really missing out on. You think it's oh, it's the salary,

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:18.720
<v Speaker 3>campus the roster, blah blah blahlah blah, it's Mickey Loomis.

0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:23.359
<v Speaker 3>Like it's a trip Bulky type situation where coaches don't

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:26.320
<v Speaker 3>want to work with him, you know, And unfortunately, it

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:28.879
<v Speaker 3>doesn't look like that's gonna change a sat But maybe

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:30.919
<v Speaker 3>we don't know, Maybe we'll move into a different role.

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Maybe he'll you know, come to come some kind of

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 3>self realization, like like what he Johnson is like, Look,

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna leave my guys alone and let them

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:43.839
<v Speaker 3>do their thing. So we'll see. But Kellen Moore like, look, man,

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:45.600
<v Speaker 3>he's had a couple of top you know, a couple

0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:47.840
<v Speaker 3>of top ten offenses as far as like you know,

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 3>EPA per Play or d v o A. You know,

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 3>he had the terrible charge a stint. You know that.

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm really interested to find out what is his top

0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:02.719
<v Speaker 3>quarterback because everywhere he's been the quarterback has already been

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 3>in place. I'm curious to see what is his style.

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 3>Who does he want, you know, even if it's in

0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:11.239
<v Speaker 3>this draft or if it's somebody that's on the team,

0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 3>does he want to keep like a Spencer Randler. I

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:16.640
<v Speaker 3>don't see him being a damn Car guy, but maybe

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 3>he is. I hope not, but maybe he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, when you say about the job being a little

0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:25.640
<v Speaker 1>poisonous in terms of all these guys turning it down,

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:29.359
<v Speaker 1>and I think about Mickey Loomis, I think about his

0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:33.880
<v Speaker 1>press conference when he's so steadfast about how Derek Carr

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 1>is part of the future and we don't know if

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:38.319
<v Speaker 1>that's going to be the case, but that might be

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:40.800
<v Speaker 1>a turnoff for coaches. So if this guy's in charge

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:44.720
<v Speaker 1>ultimately and he's back in it, I don't really believe

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 1>in this plan because for listeners out there, you know,

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Curious Car doesn't have that much guaranteed money right now

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:53.359
<v Speaker 1>on his contract. I think it's ten million dollars, which

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 1>teams eat all the time to get rid of. But

0:40:56.880 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 1>if he's gonna be if if they decide by March

0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:01.400
<v Speaker 1>they're keeping him, then then they're guaranteeing them. You know,

0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 1>another year at that that big number and yeah, thirty

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 1>more million dollars and uh pushes more money into the future.

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 2>And so they haven't made that decision. Let's wrap with this.

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:16.879
<v Speaker 1>Matthew Stafford is going to play football in twenty twenty five,

0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:22.560
<v Speaker 1>according to our Ian Rappaport at NFL Network, not a surprise.

0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I was actually surprised it was even a question. He

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:28.759
<v Speaker 1>was pretty clear right after the season that I think

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:33.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm playing well enough. And the way Ian reported it,

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 1>he just said something has to happen with the contract

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:39.960
<v Speaker 1>for Stafford and that remains to be seen. Stafford's do

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:44.080
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven million in twenty twenty five based on his

0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:48.759
<v Speaker 1>mini holdout which lasted like a literally two hours that

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 1>everyone forgot in twenty twenty four, Like, he's not going

0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 1>to play for that money, so they're gonna have to

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:56.200
<v Speaker 1>work out a new contract. And this last one just

0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 1>felt kind of papered over. And do the Rams want

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:01.279
<v Speaker 1>to commit a couple of years of guaranteed money to

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Matthew Stafford? Can they come to a contractual agreement or

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 1>the fact that they're leaving this door open, are they

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:13.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna let Stafford and his agent maybe look around and

0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 1>see if there's a trade out there, because if so,

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 1>First of all, Saints would be kind of interesting, but

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you'd want to go there. Second second,

0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I actually think he'd be the best quarterback available. I

0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 1>mean i'd take him over Darnold. I'd certainly take him

0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 1>over Fields, and maybe i'd take him over cam warden

0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:35.359
<v Speaker 1>Shoud or Sanders because if I'm not that convinced, if

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm the Titans, let's say and that these guys are

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:40.839
<v Speaker 1>really worth the number one overall pick, maybe I'd rather

0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:45.520
<v Speaker 1>take Abdul Carter and trade like a future second and

0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:47.799
<v Speaker 1>get Matthew Stafford. You know, and I think that could

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 1>be an option for a number of teams, Giants, Browns, Raiders, Like,

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:52.879
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of teams out there where Stafford could

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 1>could make some sense.

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:58.799
<v Speaker 2>What do you ryan think about Stafford?

0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine the Saints getting in on them, but

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:04.319
<v Speaker 1>just like where he would fit in this, in this

0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:06.759
<v Speaker 1>whole thing, because I do think there's something there. Maybe

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:08.920
<v Speaker 1>all I've wasted my time talking about it, but I

0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 1>really think they're almost putting it out there for other

0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:14.520
<v Speaker 1>teams to step in and say, Okay, Like I think

0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:17.480
<v Speaker 1>they're they're doing a little test balloon like your Saints

0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 1>did with John Gruden three weeks ago.

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh, would people be mad if we hired John?

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:24.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, I feel like that's what the that's what

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:26.360
<v Speaker 1>the Rams are doing right now with Matthew Stafford.

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:29.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it does feel like that. And I mean, would

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:33.719
<v Speaker 3>the Saints go with matt Matthew Stafford, I mean, I

0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 3>don't think it would be out of the picture. It's

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 3>it would be it would be like they they have

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 3>to figure out what they want to do as far

0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:44.440
<v Speaker 3>as like overall, like overall, are we doing like a

0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:46.960
<v Speaker 3>rebuild thing or are we going to try to you know,

0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:49.799
<v Speaker 3>be in the hunt again for another year? That'll be

0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 3>the question.

0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 1>But it's going to be this is the problem with

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:53.319
<v Speaker 1>not having your coach, by the way, not to cut

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:55.480
<v Speaker 1>you out and continue, but like he's going to be

0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:58.360
<v Speaker 1>the last one to hire all of his coaches others

0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:01.120
<v Speaker 1>like this. If this Matthew staf Afford thing happens, it

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:03.400
<v Speaker 1>probably will happen before the Super Bowl, because that's when

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 1>it happened before. It's when Kirk Cousins happened, like it's

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:09.319
<v Speaker 1>happening right now. Potentially, what did you go on.

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 5>Matthew Stafford's trade value, like that's such a fascinating because

0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 5>he has what maybe a year left, maybe two at

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:19.440
<v Speaker 5>the most, Like what is his what is his trade value?

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 4>Like fair trade value for Matthew staff No.

0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:26.920
<v Speaker 1>No idea, no idea, because all it takes is two teams.

0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:29.600
<v Speaker 1>To me, if you're the best quarterback on the market

0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:32.719
<v Speaker 1>for twenty twenty five, then you should have some value. Now,

0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 1>whether that's like a late second or it's like a fourth,

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:38.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I would think it'd be somewhere in

0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:41.240
<v Speaker 1>that range. I don't think you're getting first round picks

0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:44.319
<v Speaker 1>for Matthew Stafford, but for the Rams it's it's a

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:49.000
<v Speaker 1>little mystifying, honestly, but I think it it might be

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:51.239
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of the same issue that happened with

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Jared Goff that I I don't know. Sean McVay is

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 1>a little like Gruden in this way where he's always

0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:57.840
<v Speaker 1>his eyes are always wandering, and he always wants the

0:44:57.880 --> 0:45:00.759
<v Speaker 1>guy who can like run his scheme a perfect way,

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:03.360
<v Speaker 1>and when it's Stafford there, it's kind of the Matthew

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Stafford scheme. It's kind of like, I don't know that

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:08.080
<v Speaker 1>much about your boy, Kellen Moore, because like this, Jalen

0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Hurt the Eagles offense is just the Jalen Hurts offense.

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:12.200
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't matter who's the coordinator there.

0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 1>They look the same year after year like it's just

0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 1>what Jalen Hurts likes to do. And it makes sense

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:19.759
<v Speaker 1>you try to help your quarterback out. But uh, I

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:22.279
<v Speaker 1>think I think something could happen here. Keep an eye out.

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:23.719
<v Speaker 5>Mm hmm.

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Intriguing.

0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:28.640
<v Speaker 4>Get like, would I'd be all for Matthew Stafford for

0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 4>maybe like a yeah, they got they got a third

0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:36.120
<v Speaker 4>from the the the Marshall Lattimore.

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:41.200
<v Speaker 3>What if the Rams say we'll give you Matthew Stafford

0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:44.760
<v Speaker 3>and our twenty sixth pick for you a ninth pick?

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:55.719
<v Speaker 3>Oh flip sat so they can get Jackson duck baby.

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<v Speaker 2>He brought it back around.

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<v Speaker 1>Love you guys, The Saints Block Party podcast, Ryan and

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<v Speaker 1>Adam check him out on Patreon. Not only fans check

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<v Speaker 1>him out on Patreon and just a regular feed obviously

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you can get your podcast. Thanks guys, Thank thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for being our first ever Senior Bowl correspondence. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>you guys can do it again next year.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank thanks for having us.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'll see you guys. Uh. That was Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>and Adam.

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<v Speaker 1>As we wrap up, one other big item of news

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<v Speaker 1>today that I did want to get into because it's

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest NFL story that came across as we're taping

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<v Speaker 1>on Thursday. It's about Justin Tucker. It's a story from

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<v Speaker 1>the Baltimore Banner, a website where they spoke with six

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<v Speaker 1>massage therapists who accused Tucker of inappropriate behavior during massage sessions.

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<v Speaker 1>The incidents allegedly took place between twenty sixteen and twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>Tucker denies the allegations very strongly. E League spokesman said

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<v Speaker 1>they first became aware of the allegations from a reporter

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<v Speaker 1>investigating the story, as they were previously not shared with

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. And what I would say if you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to this and you have an opinion on it, or

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<v Speaker 1>you want to have an opinion or your interest and

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<v Speaker 1>go read the article because it's free to read. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's very thorough, very detailed, very specific reporting with

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<v Speaker 1>six different massage therapists who spoke directly to the site,

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<v Speaker 1>did not know each other before or about each other's stories,

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<v Speaker 1>and the stories are very similar to each other.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're very credible.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of that Tucker statement really attacked the Baltimore Banner

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<v Speaker 1>pretty aggressively. Did not directly address a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>allegations other than denying it. But I did notice that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it was against the newspaper in their

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<v Speaker 1>reporting practices, and not specifically about the on the record

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<v Speaker 1>allegations that the sixth Massage therapists made against Tucker. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll keep an eye on what happens with the Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>kicker moving forward. Tough note to end the week on,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the end of the NFL Daily Week.

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<v Speaker 1>For the first time since July, we will not be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about any weekend football because we were doing Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame Game week, we were doing preseason football, those

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<v Speaker 1>shows with Nick Shook, and of course the entire regular season.

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<v Speaker 1>We will be back on Monday. I'm really looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to next week. We're gonna do some All Pro final

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<v Speaker 1>voting and some end of season honors that Jordan Rodrigue

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<v Speaker 1>of the Athletic and I are going to start off

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<v Speaker 1>the week with some awards, and then we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be headed to New Orleans. We'll hear from Nick Shuk

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<v Speaker 1>who will be there at opening night, and I will

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<v Speaker 1>be there with Jordan and Nick Schook on the ground

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<v Speaker 1>in New Orleans. And we have an amazing set of

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<v Speaker 1>people that we are interviewing throughout the course of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>They're so good that I honestly don't want to tease them,

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<v Speaker 1>because I've been through these Super Bowls enough that you

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<v Speaker 1>never know.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of them change at the last minute.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is a great lineup of guests that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really looking forward to talking to in my favorite city

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<v Speaker 1>on Earth, the best city in America, New Orleans, Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 1>Also wanted to remind everyone both Jordan Rodrieg and myself

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<v Speaker 1>will be part of a show Mina Kimes is putting

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<v Speaker 1>together Monday night, February third, at the Belasco Theater downtown

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<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles. All the proceeds are going to wildlife

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<v Speaker 1>relief effort, so it mean a lot. If any of

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<v Speaker 1>you guys can come out to the show, I would

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<v Speaker 1>love to see you, would love to meet you. There

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<v Speaker 1>some really cool guests like Kobe Turner. We're also auctioning

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<v Speaker 1>off a signed Kobe Turner jersey. There's gonna be cool giveaways.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're fans of Mina or fans of the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>Daily Hope to see you there. All right, let's hit

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<v Speaker 1>the music and get the heck out of here. Appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan and Adam. They get it done.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it.

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<v Speaker 1>The most entertaining team podcast out there. Saints Block Party

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast was great to hear their sights and sounds from

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<v Speaker 1>the Senior Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, when we.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a weekend without football, weirdly, that's how you know

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<v Speaker 1>football is back.

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<v Speaker 2>See you Monday,