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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where the Draft is starting in Mobile.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal in my garage and I'm joined by

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Speaker 1: my two friends, Adam West and Ryan Wolf of the

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Speaker 1: Saints Block Party podcast, our Senior Bowl correspondents out there

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Speaker 1: in Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Welcome.

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Speaker 1: What is happening Adam and Ryan sharing a mic here.

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Speaker 1: I hope this isn't awkward for you guys, But you

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Speaker 1: look great. You got the merch, you look relaxed. You've

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Speaker 1: been boots on the ground here for a couple of

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Speaker 1: days in Mobile.

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Speaker 3: We have.

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Speaker 4: It's been it's been a very fun, exciting, little tiring,

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Speaker 4: very busy. What three days since we've been out of

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Speaker 4: a week, you know, it came in. But before we

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Speaker 4: even talk about the Senior Bowl, I just want I

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Speaker 4: want to just kind of take it in. I want

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Speaker 4: to just give you love, Greg, and because first, you

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Speaker 4: know you've been doing NFL Daily, you know, doing your

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Speaker 4: your shows with Patrick Claybond, You're doing your shows with

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Speaker 4: Steve Wish.

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Speaker 3: You have them on, you have me and Ryan on.

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Speaker 3: We have done. I wanted to Dante some.

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Speaker 4: Love who's helped us and he's part of our Saint

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Speaker 4: splot Pipe podcast community and being at the Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 4: being at these events, being in the stands, being at

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Speaker 4: the you know, Ryan, what's at the pressure when Jim

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Speaker 4: Naggi had his opener. There's not a lot of representation

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Speaker 4: because media is still white and still male, and that's

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Speaker 4: what it looks like. And it's just it's just a

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Speaker 4: juxtaposition to me because it's like the country, the president

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Speaker 4: is like, let's get it, let's do it. The deis

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Speaker 4: and and being in the stands and just seeing how

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Speaker 4: football is covered. I just want to give some love

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Speaker 4: to you for just being real and being authentic and

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Speaker 4: being just being who you are of you know, not

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Speaker 4: just opportunity, but you you recognize really we appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Greg, I recognize ball knowers. That's what I recognize. And

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Speaker 1: people that can make me make me laugh, and.

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Speaker 2: People that are there.

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Speaker 1: I wish, I wish we had the money that we'd

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Speaker 1: be sending you guys out to be our correspondence.

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Speaker 2: But I'm calling you that you guys are out there

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Speaker 2: on your own dime.

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Speaker 1: Of course, UH supporting your podcast and everyone should check

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Speaker 1: that out. Saints Block Party podcast. They got a lot

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Speaker 1: of good interviews this week on their Patreon. UH and

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Speaker 1: uh boots on the ground. It's cool and yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a good call with the draft community, especially

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Speaker 1: even even amongst the NFL media community, is particularly one note.

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Speaker 1: So I've never been down there before. Ryan, you lived

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Speaker 1: there first of all, Like what I didn't really think about.

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Speaker 1: So I was just introducing you. But Adam West and

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Speaker 1: Ryan Wolf. You guys got some like broadcast superhero type

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Speaker 1: names here right now? You know, like that you guys

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Speaker 1: should be in front of the camera with Adam.

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Speaker 3: You just named it be Ryan Wolf.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not even I did actually think that's your name.

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Speaker 1: But then I saw that's what you went by, a boot,

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Speaker 1: that blue sky, that boy Wolf. I was like, Damn,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know his actual name was Ryn Wolf.

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Speaker 3: It's not it's not just sound Ryan Wolf, not related.

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Speaker 3: But I love.

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Speaker 2: What what's it? What's it been like this week?

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Speaker 1: Let's get into the players, cause the thing that stands

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Speaker 1: out to me the most just from watching your guys

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Speaker 1: covered is how convinced Adam is that Jackson Dart, the

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Speaker 1: Ole miss quarterback who I happen to talk a decent

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Speaker 1: amount with Nate ticeon. And we'll stick to some of

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Speaker 1: the big names some of the top fifty players that

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Speaker 1: are there in Mobile. But quarterbacks always interesting. Your team

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Speaker 1: needs a quarterback long term, of course, despite you know

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Speaker 1: the presence of Spencer Rattler. But thinking big picture, I'm

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Speaker 1: amazed how convinced Adam Is, who I know has good

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Speaker 1: contact throughout the league, that this guy is going top ten,

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Speaker 1: top fifteen, Like nobody's saying that yet.

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Speaker 5: Why are you so confident, I'll say at least top fifteen.

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Speaker 5: I just there's just there's there's buzz that.

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Speaker 4: He will potentially may have a bow Knicks type of

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Speaker 4: bump where there's just gonna be a team that falls

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Speaker 4: falls in love with him as a prospect. And Greg,

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Speaker 4: we know how it is in the draft when there's

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Speaker 4: teams when it comes to this quarterback thirst, we see

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Speaker 4: it oftentimes. Again, what's gonna be interesting is is there

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Speaker 4: gonna be that restraint that we saw in twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: two in a down quarterback draft when you have the

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Speaker 4: can you pick it Malik Willis draft and we don't see,

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Speaker 4: we don't see the thirst come to fruition or is

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Speaker 4: there gonna be a team that the Steelers, the Rams

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Speaker 4: and you and you know, we don't know what's gonna

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Speaker 4: going wrong with Matthew Stafford. Is there gonna be a

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Speaker 4: team that's gonna feel like they can squint and a

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Speaker 4: just ask you this, Well, let's go back to last year,

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Speaker 4: around the same time last year, with anyone talking about

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Speaker 4: bo Nicks going at tenth in the drought.

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Speaker 2: No, and at this time of year.

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Speaker 1: He was getting knocked a little bit for not having

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Speaker 1: the best senior ball week, which I think informed a

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Speaker 1: lot of the coverage afterwards. But that doesn't doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: it's gonna happen with everyone. Ryan, what did what did

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Speaker 1: you see out of Jackson Dart this week? Let's let's

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Speaker 1: start there on the field.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he looked He looked good. That's that's the

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Speaker 3: thing about him. He looks the part. If you just

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Speaker 3: watch him, you know, move around, just the command of

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Speaker 3: the offense and all that stuff. He looks the part.

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Speaker 3: You know. As a personally, I just it would definitely

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Speaker 3: be an overdraft, like for him to go in the

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Speaker 3: top five, top fifteen or top ten. But you know,

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Speaker 3: like Ed, I'm just saying you could have made that

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Speaker 3: argument about bo Knicks last year, but I still I

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Speaker 3: struggle to see it with dark But I do see

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Speaker 3: the uh tools, The tools are there, and you could

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Speaker 3: see the tools that would entice an NFL team that's

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Speaker 3: thirsty for a quarterback, because there's like a lot of

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Speaker 3: teams this year that really need quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Why just because he's like he's just big and athletic

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Speaker 3: And he has a good arm. It's not It was

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Speaker 3: funny during to see the Senior Bowl week, you know,

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Speaker 3: the first two practices he wasn't really on corking it.

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Speaker 3: I was like, man, where is this arm? You know

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Speaker 3: that I was supposed to hear about. Today when he

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Speaker 3: had like the team drills going against the defense, you

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Speaker 3: saw him let it loose a little more and you know,

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Speaker 3: I just think maybe the quarterback thirst meets the tools

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Speaker 3: and he could get boosted up for me personally. But

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Speaker 3: if that's what they if you're hearing that now and

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Speaker 3: everybody's buzzing about them, it always starts little buzz and

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Speaker 3: then come April it's like, okay, of course you of

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Speaker 3: course he went top top fifty, you know, just saying,

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Speaker 3: let me just put it out there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, then you better be right.

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Speaker 1: You know you're going strong on this you're talking about

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Speaker 1: I think he might go at nine to the Saints

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Speaker 3: You know, I didn't say I would just put it.

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Speaker 4: I was just wanted to just gauge the post of

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Speaker 4: how Saints fans would feel. Okay, I didn't say he

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Speaker 4: was going the Saint.

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Speaker 2: You put it out there. I saw what you did.

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Speaker 2: Don't don't try to gasp me.

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Speaker 1: He he was forty third on Daniel Jeremiah's top fifty prospects,

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Speaker 1: So that caught my attention because I don't even think

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Speaker 1: he's that high on other people's. And that's that's Dania

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah's opinion, and it's it's not his mock draft, but

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Speaker 1: that he's going to get that high, then he's got

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Speaker 1: a chance to be QB three, and then some of

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Speaker 1: the push for the quarterbacks could happen. I would push

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Speaker 1: bow Nicks they or right around him, they might be

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Speaker 1: about QB six, QB five, QB six. I think they

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Speaker 1: he's an intriguing guy. It feels like he maybe has

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Speaker 1: a strong like agent going on, like some strong buzzes

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Speaker 1: just just happened with this dude from the cornerbacks that

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Speaker 1: you saw there this week. Riley Leonard was there, and

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Speaker 1: it's it's because I'm a big Nate Tice fan, and

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Speaker 1: I remember listening to him talk about him a lot

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Speaker 1: last year, Like he's a much bigger Riley Leonard fan

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Speaker 1: hadn't up, yeah, hadn't up and down season at Notre

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Speaker 1: Is there anyone that stuck out to you at quarterback

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Speaker 1: other than than Jackson Dart who who Yeah, like I

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Speaker 1: was listening to move the sticks. People should check out

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Speaker 1: our our podcast on NFL Media, Move the Sticks, who's

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Speaker 1: been doing daily recaps, and they I can read between

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Speaker 1: the lines. They weren't that impressed with Dart the first

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Speaker 1: sounds like today from the network coverage, they were more impressed.

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Speaker 1: Was there anyone else at quarterback that you liked there

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Speaker 4: I would say, coming into the Singer Bowl, I wasn't

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Speaker 4: expecting a whole bunch from Dylan Gabriel, the Oregon quarterback,

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Speaker 4: And I think he just impressed me just in terms

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Speaker 4: lazy like, oh, he'd be a perfect like backup quarterback

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Speaker 4: for Tula in Miami and then if he gets hurt,

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Speaker 4: like there's not like a drop off in the offense.

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Speaker 4: Even before the Singer Bowl, but then I watched it,

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Speaker 4: I was like, like that would be that would be

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Speaker 4: perfect for the Dolphins. If you go to the Dolphins

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Speaker 4: have an adequate backup situation. They have to completely change

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Speaker 4: make a lot of like Dylan Gable would make perfect

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Speaker 4: it and anyway, but he he's been like impressive and

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Speaker 4: what he's able to what he's shown here in Mobile.

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Speaker 2: Ryan, do you feel like a scout now?

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Speaker 3: Have you?

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Speaker 1: I hope you don't have any like imposter syndrome because

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Speaker 1: this is a home game. I've listened to your podcast.

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Speaker 1: You know you're from you're living in Mobile. You're not

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Speaker 1: from Mobile, but you live nearby, and so it's a

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Speaker 1: home game. Like how is it putting on that scouting

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Speaker 1: cap and what have you seen?

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Speaker 3: It feels natural for me? Man, I love it, you know.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Moreau he was the guy to look for coming

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Speaker 3: like just just as far as accuracy, you know, fumbling

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Speaker 1: Right, And Milroe is a guy who if you're putting

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Hurts justin fields, might might be another one

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Speaker 4: Him, and he was drafted in the second round, and

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Speaker 3: Remember they were like, we can use him as a

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Speaker 2: All right, you got to make sure Adam's not just

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Speaker 1: Let's let's move. Let's move to the tight end position.

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Speaker 1: And he's got two tight ends in his top ten

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Speaker 3: The thing about a royal is just the way he moves,

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Speaker 4: And for for Mason Taylor, I think this tightening class

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Speaker 4: you get so like with Mason Taylor, it's like he's

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Speaker 4: We actually actually got to have a quick interview with

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Speaker 1: That's an interesting comp you know, from I gotta I

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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to watch it. It must grave I

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he was as natural he he

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Speaker 2: he's not the.

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00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: One thing that's surprised you about the slim reaper, Like, yeah,

438
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 1: hit him with a kill shot and he bounces right back,

439
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 1: and he always like embodies people for one hundred and

440
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: seventy five pounds or whatever he is.

441
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 4: But you know, Tes Johnson, excuse me, did play for Oregon,

442
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 4: who was the number one, you know team largely throughout

443
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 4: the season, and was like one of their best weapons.

444
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 4: And teams knew going in that they needed to stop

445
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,479
Speaker 4: test Johnson, and a lot of teams didn't have answers

446
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 4: for him. So he very much we made made himself,

447
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 4: made him out well here in mobile and Iowa State

448
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 4: receiver Jaydon Higgins tall six four. I compare him a

449
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 4: little bit to that of like the Keyon Coleman type,

450
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 4: the you know, win contested balls. Maybe not the best

451
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 4: in terms of maybe struggles a little bit with separation

452
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 4: in terms of like from cornerbacks, but it maybe doesn't

453
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 4: have that I won't have that production that you will

454
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 4: want from a rookie receiver. But also could be that

455
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 4: Drake London type you know eventually because he has that

456
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 4: that that same type of body type and frame he

457
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 4: does and has very very nice hands, very very soft

458
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 4: hands as well.

459
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 1: Oh that that's huge. Where Ryan do you think like

460
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 1: these guys would go? Ted Johnson is someone that it's

461
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: like one one place scouting Steve Balazola likes to talk about,

462
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: which which is funny, but it sometimes sometimes it works

463
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: like one of those plays on the highlights you know

464
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 1: on TV this week and his Tess Johnson stop and

465
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: start and even to slow down and then speed up.

466
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 1: It's insane you when you see it, you know, And

467
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, that tracks.

468
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: I don't care how small he is.

469
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 1: Like if if to tow at Well can go in

470
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: the fourth round, and Tank del can go in the third,

471
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 1: then Tess Johnson can go in the second or something

472
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: like that, because that that stop and start was crazy.

473
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 3: We have presidents now because you know, five years ago,

474
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: you know, there was an argument about Vonte Smith and

475
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 3: he was coming out. I was like, can he hold

476
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 3: up in the league? Now we have a bunch of

477
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 3: those guys in the league. Just the way the offenses

478
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 3: are now and the way defenses are called, I think

479
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 3: somebody like to could survive. How you know, can he

480
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 3: catch ninety balls a year? I don't know. Rondo Moore

481
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 3: recently too, Yeah, yeah too. So I think he would

482
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 3: definitely be that like second to third round tier since

483
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 3: he's not a not only is he slim, but he's

484
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 3: not tall either, So I think he would kind of

485
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 3: fall into that kind of mid round day two sweet

486
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 3: sweet spot where people you know, you know, somebody take

487
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 3: a chance. But you know, I mean people like Andy Reid,

488
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 3: people like they they you know, they fire a guy,

489
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 3: they see it, have a specific vision for a guy,

490
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 3: they'll go get him. They don't care.

491
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they and they should, Like those guys are valuable.

492
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: You can't tell them, Like I know it took a

493
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: minute to for even Kali Seki, who's a different type

494
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: of player, but for him get going. But you can't

495
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: tell me he's not more valuable than a whole lot

496
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: of second and third round picks that there have been

497
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 1: over the years.

498
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 2: So I players like that.

499
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 4: I that's a great little comparison, like in how they

500
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 4: both win.

501
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 3: That's a good one.

502
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Tez pops a little more, even at least

503
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,719
Speaker 1: to me, it pops even more in terms of just

504
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: pure Xavier Worthy type. Once we figure him out, that

505
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: speed is going to be a major problem. Because Xavier

506
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 1: Worthy suddenly went for I'll be talking about it next

507
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: week in New Orleans. But Xavier Worthy somehow went from

508
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: a pretty rocky rookie year to easily the most important

509
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: receiver on the potential future Super Bowl champions.

510
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 2: Like he is their wide receiver one.

511
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: I don't care what you say about him, Like they're

512
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: kind of building it around him him in Hollywood now

513
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: and like it's working.

514
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: He's the man.

515
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: Let's go to the defensive side. The defensive line for

516
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: this Senior Bowl was really deep, and for this draft

517
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: was really deep. Probably the the best position in this

518
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: draft is throughout the defensive line. And there were a

519
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: lot of good players at the Senior Ball just just

520
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: to name a few, Mike Green, Shamar Stewart, Walter Nolan

521
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: all top thirty players according to Daniel Jeremiah, who stood

522
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: out to you the most, Ryan that you liked off

523
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: the defensive line, and then maybe Adam, you jump in

524
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 1: and can give me another one that you liked.

525
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 3: Shamar Stewart, he stood out. He's been getting a lot

526
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 3: of pub I mean, he did so well this week.

527
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 3: He just said, look, I'm not playing the game. I'm

528
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 3: I'm out of here at peace. Like he and his

529
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 3: agent got up out of here. Mike Green did the

530
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 3: same thing. Had a great week. Well. It was funny

531
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 3: the first day the defensive lines were not performing well,

532
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 3: like none of the age players are playing well defensive tackle,

533
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 3: like they were just getting owned by the offense. So

534
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 3: the next day, day two, all the the d lineman

535
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 3: came in just on fire, just lighting it up. You know,

536
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 3: at the practices on the one on ones. You know,

537
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 3: there's a clip going around Mike Green blowing up the

538
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 3: offensive guard. Uh, and it was you know, so I

539
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 3: think those two players, Mike Green and Shamarrow like both

540
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 3: stood out tomorrow to Texas A and m Mike Green

541
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 3: out of Marshall. It was a big week for him

542
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 3: because he's a small school guy. If you go watch

543
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: clips of him online, if you can find him, he's

544
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 3: just dominating. He's just like a ball in the china shop,

545
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 3: just going crazy on against small, small school players. So

546
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 3: everybody wanted to see how would he perform against you know,

547
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 3: bigger name, bigger, bigger talented offensive lineman. And he did good.

548
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 3: He did good, so you know, his week is pretty

549
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: much over. But other than that, there were you know,

550
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 3: it was kind of hard to really see who really

551
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,719
Speaker 3: was shining in the you know as defensive lineman because

552
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 3: you know, they they get on those one on ones

553
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: and they're letting him go for like two minutes and

554
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, of course the defensive lineman is winning

555
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 3: right now. The bowl will be gone like five minutes ago.

556
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: So it's like, what do we really learning? You best

557
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 3: you could do? Is go watch the tape and try

558
00:27:58,720 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 3: to figure out.

559
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 4: How it's It's funny to me because I feel like

560
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 4: maybe maybe I and this is why I draft.

561
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 5: The draft is such a beauty of the eye of

562
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 5: the beholder.

563
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 4: A lot of people here let like feel like Mike

564
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 4: Green had like a great week, and like I I

565
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 4: feel like his week was like like okay, like at best,

566
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 4: I didn't feel like I didn't feel like he had

567
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 4: a great day one he got besides like maybe a play.

568
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 4: He got very man handled a lot day one because

569
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 4: he is he's two fifty and like he's a very

570
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 4: smaller edge rusher. And then yesterday he had a better

571
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 4: day and then he had that viral clip and then

572
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 4: literally he like dipped out, and I felt like his age,

573
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 4: it was like we've done enough. I do think Mike,

574
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 4: Mike Greens, you know, is gonna be a first round

575
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 4: d I and helped me out here. But I feel

576
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 4: like Walter Nolan has had a good week too, and

577
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 4: I feel like he's going to have a type of

578
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 4: rise that defendsil tackle from the tech from Texas that

579
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 4: went to the Seahawks.

580
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 3: Name I'm blinking on Byron Murphy.

581
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's gonna have.

582
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: That's my style of guy.

583
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: Everything I see and hear about Walter Nolan, I'm like, okay,

584
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: I like that.

585
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 3: He's very Byron Murphy ish. We got to talk. We had,

586
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 3: you know, he was at the podium. We got to

587
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: ask him a.

588
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 4: Couple of questions in terms of just his natural playing position,

589
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 4: and I just feel like he's had a he's had

590
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 4: a good week here and I feel like there he's

591
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 4: Byron Murphy is esque type of player, and I feel

592
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 4: like that's like that's his range is where he probably

593
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 4: is gonna end up going in the draft is as well.

594
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 3: One thing I liked about I liked about his his interview,

595
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: the questions we asked. He's getting real detailed about the

596
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: positions he liked to play on the defensive line, just

597
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 3: you know, from three point to one point and all

598
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 3: a little different incacies in between. I just liked that

599
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 3: he talked about this stuff because some of these guys

600
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 3: they're just like, oh, just put me out there and

601
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go get the quarterback or whatever. But he

602
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 3: was real educate with it. So that's it's gonna be interesting.

603
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: But he's a good player. If you're watching him on team. Yes,

604
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: you can see that he's just gonna be a good player.

605
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 1: And everyone needs one man. You look at the teams

606
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: that are that are that are still left. You got

607
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: you got Chris Jones on one team. You've got Ed

608
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: Oliver coming off a really good playoff run for the Bills.

609
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: Got j Carter Well.

610
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 3: I saw Chris Jones crying for the national anthem. I'm like,

611
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,239
Speaker 3: it's over, it's over. Big got Uh?

612
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: You got you got Carter Uh for the Eagles, who

613
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: might be the best defensive player in the playoffs. And

614
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: then even the Commanders like Jerry Newton was making some

615
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: place for them, and Jonathan Allen came back and he

616
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: was looking good, Like you need one of those guys.

617
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: And yeah, Nolan is twenty six right now on DJ's board,

618
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: and that that could go up. Mike Green is twenty third.

619
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: Shamar Stewart, who to me reminds me of one of

620
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: those defensive linemen you want on your team that's probably

621
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: better as your second defensive like and but that you

622
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: need above average starters who are really athletic. And even

623
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: if he doesn't finish plays all the time, like he's

624
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: a guy, people will be excited to work with.

625
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 3: Josh Sweat is a guy like the Saints defensive.

626
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: Okay, you you threw it out there. I don't need

627
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: to go over the offensive line starters or whatever. Let's

628
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: talk a little Saints.

629
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 3: No of this draft stuff.

630
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: No, no, no, well, you know we talked about Great,

631
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: We're going to that guy's name.

632
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: Great.

633
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: Gray's a booie. What is the North Dakota State pensive lineman?

634
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: He seems like he's the guy that that stood out

635
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: the most. It actually reminds me a little of Quinn Miners,

636
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: who I thought was just like a media gimmick because

637
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: of his big belly at the Senior Bowl a few

638
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: years ago. Everyone just like telling this story. And he's

639
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: literally the first team All Pro this year, maybe the

640
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: best guard in the league.

641
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 4: Is crazy, and he's been a rock here, like a rock,

642
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 4: and I don't I don't know where he was even

643
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 4: slotted to go. We're both draft ciccos, but like, I'm

644
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 4: not so much for draft cickle to know where he

645
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 4: was slotted to go.

646
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: DJ had him in his top fifty barely.

647
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: And again, his name is Grey Zabel North data State

648
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: and he can he can probably play center or guard

649
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: at the next level, like he's played all three positions,

650
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: but that he'll probably play inside as a pro at

651
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: least according to DJ, Yeah, I.

652
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 4: Would just I'll say this, and we got some pretty good,

653
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 4: pretty good footage of the one on ones. There weren't

654
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 4: many one on one one on one on ones with

655
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 4: the defensive line that he got beat at.

656
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Speaker 3: This is like he's been like he's like a just

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Speaker 3: a rock inside.

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Speaker 4: So he's definitely made money this week And I think

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm not you didn't ask this question, but

660
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Speaker 4: like if you were just to ask me, like the

661
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Speaker 4: player that made the most money here this weekend, because

662
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Speaker 4: that's what the Senior Bowl is all about, right, just

663
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Speaker 4: making money stock, I would probably give that award to

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Speaker 4: Elijah Royal, like I and I think, oh okay, just

665
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Speaker 4: even yesterday at the media day, he had a media

666
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Speaker 4: like a media scrum when just walking in, like walking

667
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Speaker 4: in like he had a scrum of media people around him.

668
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Speaker 4: So he's definitely made himself some money. Our dude, Dante

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Speaker 4: made a great comparison just in terms of how he

670
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 4: moves as a football player. Only people, please, I'm gonna

671
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 4: preface it by only he moves like Aaron Hernandez moved

672
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Speaker 4: as a football player like if you just go and

673
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 4: I couldn't just like I'm shake And that's just how

674
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 4: he moves out the football player as a tight end.

675
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Speaker 4: But for sure, like the biggest person that's made money

676
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 4: this weekend, for sure has been I think by far

677
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Speaker 4: has been Elijah Royal.

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Speaker 1: I mean that is it's always a tricky comp to make,

679
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Speaker 1: you know, I preface it, that's a.

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Speaker 2: Tricky one to make though on the field though, because.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Hernandez, if you take out you know, coming into

682
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Speaker 1: the draft, was a top twenty pick if it wasn't

683
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Speaker 1: for being Aaron Hernandez, because of his talents in the

684
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Speaker 1: way that he moved, and he was rare in terms

685
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Speaker 1: of who he was as a player. You know, there's

686
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Speaker 1: one that pops up every few years kind of like him,

687
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Speaker 1: and they usually get taken in the top fifteen or twenty.

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Speaker 1: So that is how praise. Let's take actually a quick

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Speaker 1: break and then we're gonna come back. We're gonna talk

690
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Speaker 1: a little bit about Kellen Moore maybe becoming the Saints coach,

691
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: talk a little Matthew Stafford, and then we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: to our weekend and send you into the mobile night

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Speaker 1: back on NFL Daily.

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Speaker 3: This a second, All.

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Speaker 2: Right back here on NFL Daily.

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Speaker 1: With my guys Adam and Ryan from the Saints Block

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Speaker 1: Party podcast.

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Speaker 2: Who knows what's going on on their OnlyFans or no Patriots? Right,

699
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Speaker 2: that's Patrion. I mean, what's the difference really? Who knows

700
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Speaker 2: what's going on? In these interviews?

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Speaker 1: Your boy Kellen Moore, it looks like he's gonna take

702
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: this job. And it's so funny, you guys, how you

703
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Speaker 1: went immediately from being so just like what is going

704
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: on with this Saints head coaching search and we're kind

705
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: of sick of Mickey Loomis, No one wants our job,

706
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Speaker 1: And then the second you just get a little with

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Speaker 1: over like a kind of good head coaching candidate who

708
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Speaker 1: wants to come aboard, You're just like, oh yeah, Kellen

709
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Speaker 1: Moore's man, We're all onboard the Kellen Moore Express.

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Speaker 2: Explain yourself. Explain yourself.

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00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 4: It's not Darren Rizzy, it's not John Gruden, Greg like,

712
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 4: that's the explanation. And I don't I don't think people

713
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 4: understand and understand how many coaches told Mickey Lomis and

714
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 4: the Saints know this, Know this head coaching search Mike

715
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 4: Mike Drabel was requested for an interview, didn't take an interview.

716
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 4: They reached out to Ben Johnson for an interview. This

717
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 4: never got reported, but I'm reporting it on NFL Daily.

718
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson never got back to him, said like, basically,

719
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 4: what are you doing? Call it to me, like, come on,

720
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:08,959
Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn.

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00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: And he has ties to that building. He was never

722
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Speaker 1: in that building, but he has.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Aaron Glenn, like the you know, the favorite that

724
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 4: was gonna take the job.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

726
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 4: He he doesn't even do an in person interview, like

727
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 4: everyone's gonna everyone's like everyone's little story. They add, oh

728
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 4: was because of the snowstorm. It wasn't because of the snowstorm.

729
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 4: He always wanted the jet job.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Joe Brady said it.

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Speaker 2: He said it. He literally said that this was the

733
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Speaker 2: only job I wanted. So you can trust the man.

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Speaker 4: Joe Brady stayed in Buffalo, also declined to in person interview.

735
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 4: And then Cliff Kingsbury didn't even take a virtual interview.

736
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Speaker 4: That's five coaches that told the same snow and so

737
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Speaker 4: as fans and as us for our podcast, you we

738
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Speaker 4: can we can squint as some things that killing Moore

739
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 4: has done with the Cowboys. I know, the charger stint

740
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 4: was a little rough. We can and look at the

741
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 4: things he's done with the Eagles and people be like, oh,

742
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 4: he has a great offensive line. He has, say Colin

743
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 4: Barkley has at this point, we don't care, like we

744
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 4: don't care because if it wasn't gonna be Kellen Moore,

745
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 4: and again it's all likely potentially gonna happen, potentially isn't

746
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 4: gonna be Kellen Moore. It literally was either gonna be.

747
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 4: And the Mike McCarthy thing was funny because they were

748
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 4: just they were putting Mike McCarthy on the back burner

749
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 4: like he was just like a like with a super bowler,

750
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 4: we'll get to you when we get to you type

751
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 4: of thing, to the point where he was like, no, like,

752
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 4: I'm not wasting my time if it's not it was

753
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 4: gonna be Darren Rizzy, or it was gonna be potentially

754
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 4: Drawing Rooded and uh.

755
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: Eh, yes you got you guys are so down on

756
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: the riz, you know Darren Rizzy, I mean Aaron Glenn

757
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: was happy to have him up there on the podium

758
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: with him in New York, so he was excited to

759
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: have to have Rizzy Ryan, what do you what are

760
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: you feeling about a potential Kellen Moore era and have

761
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: you come to terms? I think this means that Mickey

762
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: Loomis is keeping keeping all the power that that he's had.

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Speaker 2: At least it seems like it's headed that way.

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Speaker 1: You guys can tell me you're you're more connected than

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Speaker 1: I am if you if you think any differently, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, it seems like it. But we you know, we

767
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: really don't know. It's just been seeming like there's a

768
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: lot of weird stuff going on in the In the

769
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 3: Saints building, he had like multiple gms on the staff.

770
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Speaker 3: Randy Mueller was back, he had Dave Ziggler in there.

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Speaker 3: You know he's got he's got Dave said, get me

772
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 3: out of here. I mean, Ziggler was a part of

773
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: coaching interviews and meanwhile he's trying to become an assistant

774
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 3: GM somewhere else. It's just a mess. It's a mess.

775
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 3: I'm hoping like Gail or at least like Da Dennis Lusha,

776
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: team president, is like realizing that there's a problem here.

777
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 3: You know, so many coaches, I mean, Joe Brady didn't

778
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: take anything. I mean, Joe Brady, one of the most ambitious,

779
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 3: you know, young coaches in the league, just said, nah,

780
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 3: I'm just loving his life. I don't want I don't

781
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: want that Mickey Loomis life. And that's the thing people

782
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 3: really missing out on. You think it's oh, it's the salary,

783
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 3: campus the roster, blah blah blahlah blah, it's Mickey Loomis.

784
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 3: Like it's a trip Bulky type situation where coaches don't

785
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 3: want to work with him, you know, And unfortunately, it

786
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 3: doesn't look like that's gonna change a sat But maybe

787
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 3: we don't know, Maybe we'll move into a different role.

788
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 3: Maybe he'll you know, come to come some kind of

789
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: self realization, like like what he Johnson is like, Look,

790
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna leave my guys alone and let them

791
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 3: do their thing. So we'll see. But Kellen Moore like, look, man,

792
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: he's had a couple of top you know, a couple

793
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 3: of top ten offenses as far as like you know,

794
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: EPA per Play or d v o A. You know,

795
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: he had the terrible charge a stint. You know that.

796
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: I'm really interested to find out what is his top

797
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 3: quarterback because everywhere he's been the quarterback has already been

798
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 3: in place. I'm curious to see what is his style.

799
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Speaker 3: Who does he want, you know, even if it's in

800
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 3: this draft or if it's somebody that's on the team,

801
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: does he want to keep like a Spencer Randler. I

802
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 3: don't see him being a damn Car guy, but maybe

803
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 3: he is. I hope not, but maybe he is.

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00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 1: Well, when you say about the job being a little

805
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: poisonous in terms of all these guys turning it down,

806
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: and I think about Mickey Loomis, I think about his

807
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: press conference when he's so steadfast about how Derek Carr

808
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: is part of the future and we don't know if

809
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: that's going to be the case, but that might be

810
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: a turnoff for coaches. So if this guy's in charge

811
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Speaker 1: ultimately and he's back in it, I don't really believe

812
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: in this plan because for listeners out there, you know,

813
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: Curious Car doesn't have that much guaranteed money right now

814
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: on his contract. I think it's ten million dollars, which

815
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: teams eat all the time to get rid of. But

816
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: if he's gonna be if if they decide by March

817
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: they're keeping him, then then they're guaranteeing them. You know,

818
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: another year at that that big number and yeah, thirty

819
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: more million dollars and uh pushes more money into the future.

820
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: And so they haven't made that decision. Let's wrap with this.

821
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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford is going to play football in twenty twenty five,

822
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: according to our Ian Rappaport at NFL Network, not a surprise.

823
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: I was actually surprised it was even a question. He

824
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: was pretty clear right after the season that I think

825
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: I'm playing well enough. And the way Ian reported it,

826
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: he just said something has to happen with the contract

827
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: for Stafford and that remains to be seen. Stafford's do

828
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: twenty seven million in twenty twenty five based on his

829
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: mini holdout which lasted like a literally two hours that

830
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: everyone forgot in twenty twenty four, Like, he's not going

831
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Speaker 1: to play for that money, so they're gonna have to

832
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: work out a new contract. And this last one just

833
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: felt kind of papered over. And do the Rams want

834
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: to commit a couple of years of guaranteed money to

835
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford? Can they come to a contractual agreement or

836
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: the fact that they're leaving this door open, are they

837
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: gonna let Stafford and his agent maybe look around and

838
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: see if there's a trade out there, because if so,

839
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: First of all, Saints would be kind of interesting, but

840
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if you'd want to go there. Second second,

841
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: I actually think he'd be the best quarterback available. I

842
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: mean i'd take him over Darnold. I'd certainly take him

843
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: over Fields, and maybe i'd take him over cam warden

844
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 1: Shoud or Sanders because if I'm not that convinced, if

845
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm the Titans, let's say and that these guys are

846
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: really worth the number one overall pick, maybe I'd rather

847
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: take Abdul Carter and trade like a future second and

848
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: get Matthew Stafford. You know, and I think that could

849
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: be an option for a number of teams, Giants, Browns, Raiders, Like,

850
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: there's a lot of teams out there where Stafford could

851
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: could make some sense.

852
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 2: What do you ryan think about Stafford?

853
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: I can't imagine the Saints getting in on them, but

854
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: just like where he would fit in this, in this

855
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: whole thing, because I do think there's something there. Maybe

856
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: all I've wasted my time talking about it, but I

857
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: really think they're almost putting it out there for other

858
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: teams to step in and say, Okay, Like I think

859
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: they're they're doing a little test balloon like your Saints

860
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: did with John Gruden three weeks ago.

861
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: Oh, would people be mad if we hired John?

862
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like that's what the that's what

863
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: the Rams are doing right now with Matthew Stafford.

864
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does feel like that. And I mean, would

865
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 3: the Saints go with matt Matthew Stafford, I mean, I

866
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 3: don't think it would be out of the picture. It's

867
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 3: it would be it would be like they they have

868
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 3: to figure out what they want to do as far

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Speaker 3: as like overall, like overall, are we doing like a

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Speaker 3: rebuild thing or are we going to try to you know,

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Speaker 3: be in the hunt again for another year? That'll be

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Speaker 3: the question.

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Speaker 1: But it's going to be this is the problem with

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Speaker 1: not having your coach, by the way, not to cut

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Speaker 1: you out and continue, but like he's going to be

876
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Speaker 1: the last one to hire all of his coaches others

877
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Speaker 1: like this. If this Matthew staf Afford thing happens, it

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Speaker 1: probably will happen before the Super Bowl, because that's when

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Speaker 1: it happened before. It's when Kirk Cousins happened, like it's

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Speaker 1: happening right now. Potentially, what did you go on.

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Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford's trade value, like that's such a fascinating because

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Speaker 5: he has what maybe a year left, maybe two at

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Speaker 5: the most, Like what is his what is his trade value?

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Speaker 4: Like fair trade value for Matthew staff No.

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Speaker 1: No idea, no idea, because all it takes is two teams.

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Speaker 1: To me, if you're the best quarterback on the market

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five, then you should have some value. Now,

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Speaker 1: whether that's like a late second or it's like a fourth,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I would think it'd be somewhere in

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Speaker 1: that range. I don't think you're getting first round picks

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Speaker 1: for Matthew Stafford, but for the Rams it's it's a

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Speaker 1: little mystifying, honestly, but I think it it might be

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Speaker 1: a little bit of the same issue that happened with

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff that I I don't know. Sean McVay is

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Speaker 1: a little like Gruden in this way where he's always

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Speaker 1: his eyes are always wandering, and he always wants the

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Speaker 1: guy who can like run his scheme a perfect way,

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Speaker 1: and when it's Stafford there, it's kind of the Matthew

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00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: Stafford scheme. It's kind of like, I don't know that

900
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Speaker 1: much about your boy, Kellen Moore, because like this, Jalen

901
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: Hurt the Eagles offense is just the Jalen Hurts offense.

902
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter who's the coordinator there.

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Speaker 1: They look the same year after year like it's just

904
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: what Jalen Hurts likes to do. And it makes sense

905
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Speaker 1: you try to help your quarterback out. But uh, I

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Speaker 1: think I think something could happen here. Keep an eye out.

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Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

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00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 3: Intriguing.

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Speaker 4: Get like, would I'd be all for Matthew Stafford for

910
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 4: maybe like a yeah, they got they got a third

911
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 4: from the the the Marshall Lattimore.

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Speaker 3: What if the Rams say we'll give you Matthew Stafford

913
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Speaker 3: and our twenty sixth pick for you a ninth pick?

914
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 3: Oh flip sat so they can get Jackson duck baby.

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Speaker 2: He brought it back around.

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Speaker 1: Love you guys, The Saints Block Party podcast, Ryan and

917
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: Adam check him out on Patreon. Not only fans check

918
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: him out on Patreon and just a regular feed obviously

919
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 1: wherever you can get your podcast. Thanks guys, Thank thank

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00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: you for being our first ever Senior Bowl correspondence. Hopefully

921
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: you guys can do it again next year.

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Speaker 3: Thank thanks for having us.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'll see you guys. Uh. That was Ryan

924
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Speaker 2: and Adam.

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Speaker 1: As we wrap up, one other big item of news

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Speaker 1: today that I did want to get into because it's

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Speaker 1: the biggest NFL story that came across as we're taping

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. It's about Justin Tucker. It's a story from

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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Banner, a website where they spoke with six

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Speaker 1: massage therapists who accused Tucker of inappropriate behavior during massage sessions.

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Speaker 1: The incidents allegedly took place between twenty sixteen and twenty twelve.

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Speaker 1: Tucker denies the allegations very strongly. E League spokesman said

933
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Speaker 1: they first became aware of the allegations from a reporter

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Speaker 1: investigating the story, as they were previously not shared with

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Speaker 1: the NFL. And what I would say if you're listening

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Speaker 1: to this and you have an opinion on it, or

937
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Speaker 1: you want to have an opinion or your interest and

938
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Speaker 1: go read the article because it's free to read. I

939
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Speaker 1: think it's very thorough, very detailed, very specific reporting with

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Speaker 1: six different massage therapists who spoke directly to the site,

941
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Speaker 1: did not know each other before or about each other's stories,

942
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Speaker 1: and the stories are very similar to each other.

943
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Speaker 2: And they're very credible.

944
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Speaker 1: Because of that Tucker statement really attacked the Baltimore Banner

945
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Speaker 1: pretty aggressively. Did not directly address a lot of the

946
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Speaker 1: allegations other than denying it. But I did notice that

947
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Speaker 1: a lot of it was against the newspaper in their

948
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Speaker 1: reporting practices, and not specifically about the on the record

949
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Speaker 1: allegations that the sixth Massage therapists made against Tucker. So

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Speaker 1: we'll keep an eye on what happens with the Ravens

951
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Speaker 1: kicker moving forward. Tough note to end the week on,

952
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Speaker 1: and this is the end of the NFL Daily Week.

953
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Speaker 1: For the first time since July, we will not be

954
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Speaker 1: talking about any weekend football because we were doing Hall

955
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Speaker 1: of Fame Game week, we were doing preseason football, those

956
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Speaker 1: shows with Nick Shook, and of course the entire regular season.

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Speaker 1: We will be back on Monday. I'm really looking forward

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00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 1: to next week. We're gonna do some All Pro final

959
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: voting and some end of season honors that Jordan Rodrigue

960
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: of the Athletic and I are going to start off

961
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Speaker 1: the week with some awards, and then we're going to

962
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Speaker 1: be headed to New Orleans. We'll hear from Nick Shuk

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00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: who will be there at opening night, and I will

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Speaker 1: be there with Jordan and Nick Schook on the ground

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Speaker 1: in New Orleans. And we have an amazing set of

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Speaker 1: people that we are interviewing throughout the course of the week.

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Speaker 1: They're so good that I honestly don't want to tease them,

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Speaker 1: because I've been through these Super Bowls enough that you

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Speaker 1: never know.

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Speaker 2: Some of them change at the last minute.

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Speaker 1: But it is a great lineup of guests that I'm

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Speaker 1: really looking forward to talking to in my favorite city

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Speaker 1: on Earth, the best city in America, New Orleans, Louisiana.

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Speaker 1: Also wanted to remind everyone both Jordan Rodrieg and myself

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Speaker 1: will be part of a show Mina Kimes is putting

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Speaker 1: together Monday night, February third, at the Belasco Theater downtown

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. All the proceeds are going to wildlife

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Speaker 1: relief effort, so it mean a lot. If any of

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Speaker 1: you guys can come out to the show, I would

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Speaker 1: love to see you, would love to meet you. There

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Speaker 1: some really cool guests like Kobe Turner. We're also auctioning

982
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Speaker 1: off a signed Kobe Turner jersey. There's gonna be cool giveaways.

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Speaker 1: If you're fans of Mina or fans of the NFL

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Speaker 1: Daily Hope to see you there. All right, let's hit

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Speaker 1: the music and get the heck out of here. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: Ryan and Adam. They get it done.

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Speaker 2: I mean it.

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Speaker 1: The most entertaining team podcast out there. Saints Block Party

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00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: Podcast was great to hear their sights and sounds from

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yes, when we.

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Speaker 1: Have a weekend without football, weirdly, that's how you know

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Speaker 1: football is back.

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Speaker 2: See you Monday,