1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Before we get into it, be advised that this series 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: contains bad language and references to violence. It's a sunny 3 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: day in downtown Portland, Oregon, but the air is thick 4 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: with tension. It's August and I am outside of Portland 5 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: Police Headquarters Center, jostling bodies packed the street. There are 6 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: men in black helmets and kevlar vest's openly carrying a 7 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: R fifteens, bikers with MAGA flags draped from their motorcycles, 8 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: Proud boys and oathkeepers and gas masks in bandanas who 9 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: have formed a battle lie. Their wooden shields are painted 10 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: with pro Trump and quan On slogans. I'm here to 11 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: her a far right rally. The Facebook event declared it 12 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: the mother of all Back the Blue rallies. Portland has 13 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: been ground zero for far right street violence over the 14 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: last few months. I'm filming on my phone wearing a 15 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: vest and a helmet labeled PRESS, but I know that 16 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: won't be enough to protect me. Some anti fascist demonstrators 17 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: in Black Lives Matter T shirts start a counter chant 18 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: with drums. They're outnumbered, but they square off with their opponents. 19 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: I'm right in the thick of it. I to eye 20 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: with a bearded proud boy named Alan Swinney who threatens 21 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: to maze me. He's kind of a local celebrity in 22 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: Portland fascist circles. Later today he'll pull a gun on 23 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: a BLM activist. Someone throws a jug of orange juice 24 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: into the crowd and things escalate a back the blue 25 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: supporter hurls smoke bombs and improvised flash bangs into the crowd. 26 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: Four right wingers start beating an unarmed man with baseball bats. 27 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: A line of proud boys charges at the anti fascist protesters. 28 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: People are knocked to the ground, and oath keepers pile in, 29 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: kicking and spraying mace. Out of nowhere, a proud boy 30 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: with a blue shield and blasted with God Bless America 31 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: runs right at me. He smashes the phone out of 32 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: my hands with a police baton. I double over. My 33 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: hand is broken into places. I confront my attacker, holding 34 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: up my bloody hand. He attempts and fails to knock 35 00:02:55,760 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: me back with his shield. It's a thousand persons street 36 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: fight ten feet in front of Portland police headquarters, but 37 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: no arrests are made. In fact, law enforcement never moved 38 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: in on the crowd. The closest they get to riot 39 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: control is an officer parked outside in nearby Starbucks. He 40 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: tells the protesters to play an ice from inside his car. 41 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: Just over four months later, on January six, many of 42 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: the far right activists who honed their tactics on the 43 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: streets of Portland while police look the other way, will 44 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 1: make their way to the capital. Last episode, we heard 45 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: the stories of officers who fought tooth and nail against 46 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: the rioters. This time we meet the cops on the 47 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: opposite side of the battle lines. At least twenty current 48 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: or former members of law enforcement have been charged with 49 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: crimes related to the January six insurrection. Even more have 50 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: been suspended, dismissed, or are currently under investigation by their 51 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: local department. Even the Capitol Police themselves, the officers charged 52 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: with defending the building, have placed over thirty five officers 53 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: under investigation and suspended at least six. The vast majority officers, 54 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: like Harry Dunn and Sergeant Gonell fought heroically, but a 55 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: small number put their arms around rioters and posed for selfies. 56 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: Patriots are taking selfeast together with Capitol police inside the 57 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: Capitol or they beckoned the invaders into the Capitol building. 58 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: Urging them on, and the so called patriots loved it. 59 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: Police are doing nothing. They're not even trying to stop. 60 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: At this point, I've seen for myself the way police 61 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: handle far right groups like the Proud Boys and local 62 00:04:53,560 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: militias is decidedly hands off. The question is why, Because 63 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. This permissiveness of right wing violence, 64 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: which stretches back decades, was a key ingredient in the 65 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: toxic stew that led to January six. So it's time 66 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: to address one of the scariest questions about the riot. 67 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: How comes so many cops were part of the mob. 68 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: From the team's at Cool Zone Media, I Heart Radio 69 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: and novel This is the Assault on America Episode seven, 70 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: The Lost Cause m the first Black Lives rally in 71 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: Rocky Mount I was very impressed with the number of 72 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: people that came out that day, children, older people, young 73 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: black people, young white people, older black people, older white people. 74 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: Penny Edwards Blue grew up in Franklin County in the 75 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: foothills of Virginia's Blue Ridge Mountains. She moved back after 76 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: a career in tech and is now the only black 77 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: member of the local school board. She's describing a rally 78 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: that took place in June in Rocky mount a rural 79 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: town in Franklin of about five thousand people. It was 80 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: Rocky Mounts first ever b l M turnout and it 81 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: was a good one. The sun was shining. People out 82 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: with signs. Everyone was very nice to each other. When 83 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: cars passed by and they saw the signs. Most people 84 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: hank and the sheriff spoke and he also had a 85 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: black deputy speak. There was a sense of determination but 86 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: also elation. There was dancing. Do you remember that rash 87 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: of videos in early twenty of cops dancing at b 88 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: l M rally's everybody, Well, it happened here too. As 89 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: they moved on to the next part of the march, 90 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: they did dis dancing. Police officers and protesters did the 91 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: electric slide sidestepping in Unison, next to the Farmer's Market. 92 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: The police department handed out water bottles, and as the 93 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: afternoon wore on, an officer brought the protesters McDonald's Happy 94 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: Meals and pizza. One of the dancing protesters was a 95 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: young hairdresser named Bridget Craighead. Bridget founded the local Black 96 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 1: Lives Matter chapter and asked Penny him mentor her. After 97 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: the protest, Bridget was brimming with optimism about the reception 98 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: they'd had from the cops. She thought she had made 99 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: a breakthrough because these cops were dancing with her. What 100 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: do you have to understand about history is they did 101 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: that during slavery. The master's children played with the slave children. 102 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: Yet when they grew up, they treated them as slaves 103 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: and treated them harshly. Just because someone is dancing with 104 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: you and smiling with you and have on a conversation 105 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: with you does not mean they have your best interest 106 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: at heart. In a photo from the rally, Bridget stands 107 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: side by side with two police officers. Sergeant Thomas T. J. 108 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: Robertson has a wide, clean shaven face. Officer Jacob Fracker 109 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: has dark sunglasses and a goatee. They all hold signs 110 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: painted with slogans just us isn't justice and silence equals violence? 111 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: Police and the People United. Everyone is smiling. Seven months later, 112 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: on January six, a very different image finds its way 113 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: onto the Internet. It's another selfie featuring officers Fracker and Robertson, 114 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: but this time they're not smiling. This time, the two 115 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: cops are glaring down at the camera, they look angry 116 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: and hyped up. Fracker is flipping his middle finger. Behind 117 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: them looms a white marble statue of the revolutionary general 118 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: John Stark. There's only one place they could be, the 119 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: Statuary Hall in the heart of the US Capital. They've 120 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: traveled there from Virginia to join the riot. The picture 121 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: shoots around Rocky Mount, lighting up phones and computer screens 122 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: all around town. Within a week of the riot, it 123 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: all hell breaks loose tonight Tonight to Rocky Mount police 124 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: officers are on administrative leave and are being investigated by 125 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: federal authorities. Protesters going head to head outside the Rocky 126 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: Mount Town Council meeting Monday night on January Frecker and 127 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: Robertson are arrested on federal charges after a public outcry. 128 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: They lose their jobs at Rocky Mount's tiny police department, 129 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: and at the time of recording there awaiting trial. But 130 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: the story doesn't end there because the case of officers 131 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: Frecker and Robertson has split their community right down the middle. 132 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: There are those in Rocky Mount who are a gas 133 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: that two of their officers invaded the US capital, and 134 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: there are many others who think that the Justice Department 135 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: is being over zealous and prosecuting two cops with previously 136 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: spotless records. So who are these police officers who dance 137 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: with BLM one day and attack democracy the next? What 138 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: do they have to say for themselves? It's very rare 139 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: if you're a journalist to have a police officer readily 140 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: answer your questions. This is Mike Allen, a journalist who 141 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: lives near Rocky Mount. He works for The Roanoke Times, 142 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: where he covers politics in Franklin County. Franklin County has 143 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: a kind of colorful reputation. Its nickname is the Moonshine 144 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: Capital of the World. Mike loves the history of Franklin 145 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: County so much that he has quite literally bought the 146 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: T shirt. I'm not wearing it right now though. When 147 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: it came out the two Rocky Mount police officers had 148 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: invaded the capital, Mike was quick to get in touch. 149 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: To his surprise, Sergeant Robertson and Officer Fracker were willing 150 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: to speak. T J. Robertson was very eager to expound 151 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: on his side of the story. Jacob was it first 152 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: a bit more cautious, but later he also communicated with 153 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: me and My impression, for what it is worth, is 154 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: that both of these fellows were absolutely convinced that they 155 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: had done nothing wrong. How could two police officers charged 156 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: with upholding the law failed to understand that storming the 157 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: seat of American democracy is a no no legally speaking? 158 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: The answer, as is so often the case, lies in 159 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: the trail of their social media communications. In November, following 160 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: the presidential election and the rollout of Ali Alexander's Stopped 161 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: the Steel campaign, which we covered an episode two, t J. 162 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: Robertson became increasingly outspoken on Facebook. His words here, as 163 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: laid out in his FBI indictments, are spoken by an 164 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: actor being disenfranchised by fraud is my hardline. I sent 165 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: most of my adult life fighting encountering sir agency. I'm 166 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: about to become part of one, and a very effective one. 167 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: Like his colleague, Officer Fracker, Sergeant T J. Robertson is 168 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: a military veteran who has done tours in both Iraq 169 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: and Afghanistan. When Robertson talks about insurgencies, he's not getting around. 170 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: Civility has left me. I'm tired of always taken the 171 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: high road and being beat by those who cheat, lie, 172 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: and steal the win and then allow their media to 173 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,599 Speaker 1: paint me as the bad guy. I won't be disenfranchised. 174 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: I'll follow the path our founders gave us. Redressed grievances, 175 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: already done civil disobedience here now, and then open armed rebellion. 176 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: I spent the last ten years fighting an insurgency in 177 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: Iraq and Afghanistan. I'm prepared to start one here and 178 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: know a bunch of like minded and rained individuals. On 179 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: Monday January four, two days before the riot, he writes, 180 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: I'll be in d C Wednesday to peacefully protest. The 181 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: day after we shall see. So how did the peaceful 182 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: protests turn out? Jacob Fracker and T. J. Robertson went 183 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: into the capital in about the middle of the time 184 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: of greatest turmoil, though they both told me in interviews 185 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: that they didn't see any violence happening around them. As 186 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: they went in. Fracker would message a friend that he 187 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: was the eighth person inside the capitol. If this is true, 188 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: it would be pretty astounding if he saw no violence 189 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: against police on his way in, But Francker and Robertson 190 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: have always maintained that they weren't involved in any violence. 191 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: They simply walked in and walked out. They really really 192 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: took pains to convey to me as they saw it, 193 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: all they had done was take part in a peaceful protest. 194 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: Anybody who's familiar with the case who hears me say that, 195 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: is immediately going to think about some of the things 196 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: that both of these men posted on social media that 197 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: actually sound very militant and like they are advocating for violence. 198 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: But they swore that they had done nothing wrong, that 199 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: they were just participating in a protest. On January eight, 200 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: Robertson took to Facebook to celebrate his participation in the 201 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: peaceful protest from two days before the next revolution started 202 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: in d C. One six one. The only voice these 203 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: people will now listen to is violence, So respectfully, buckle 204 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: armor or just stay at home. The word violence in 205 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: that post, by the way, is it all caps? And 206 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: there's more. The picture of senators cowering on the floor 207 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: with genuine fear on their faces is the most American 208 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: thing I've seen in my life. Wants for real, you 209 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: people actually realize who you work for. For his part, 210 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: Officer Fracker shared a video with friends on Facebook saying 211 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: that he hadn't been that hyped up since Afghanistan. For 212 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: good measure, he added ship was wild l O l 213 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: I Piston, Nancy ps toilet. T J. Robertson told me 214 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: that those statements were essentially meant to be editorial statements 215 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: or hyperbole or you know, sort of cheering for the team, 216 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: that they weren't supposed to be taken literally. People obviously 217 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: have their own opinions about that, and you'll probably have 218 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: your own opinion about this too. The most recent development, 219 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: which is kind of mind boggling, is that T. J. Robertson, 220 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: after he was released on bond under conditions that he 221 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: not possess any guns, proceeded to buy more than thirty 222 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 1: guns online and have them shipped to a gun dealer 223 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: essentially in Romano, as well as receipts for thirty four guns. 224 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: The police found a partially constructed pipe bomb in Robertson's home. 225 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: He claims he owned it for police training purposes. Whatever 226 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: the case, his bail has been revoked and he is 227 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: awaiting trial from prison. The Rocky Mount Police force is small, 228 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: about twenty officers strong, and the fact that two of 229 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: them have allegedly been planning an insurgency online and I'm 230 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: asking weapons while out on bail. It's scary stuff. And 231 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: the unavoidable truth is that it's scarier for Black Americans 232 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: than it is for white Americans. Of coy Sarbotica and 233 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: eariler this year, and I put cameras around my house. 234 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: Penny Blue, who was at Rocky Mounts first BLM event, 235 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: sees the Capital riot as a racist event, a largely 236 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: white crowd protesting election results from largely black areas, egged on, 237 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: as she sees it, by an overtly racist president. She 238 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: recognizes the dynamics clearly enough from her own childhood growing 239 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: up in the sixties in Franklin County. Back then, she 240 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: and a couple of other kids were the first black 241 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: students in the newly integrated schools. Certain elements of the 242 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: local community were less than welcoming. The KKK burnt across 243 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: in another family's yard that had sent their children to 244 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: the white school system. So my dad went to visit 245 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: them and talked to him, and then he came back 246 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: and went to the Union Hall store where the guys 247 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: sit around and talk and share news, and he basically 248 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: said he heard it was a cross burning and these 249 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: people's yards last night he said, I just want everybody 250 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: to know if it's some white sheets in my yard 251 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: that's not on Helen's line, they will be full of 252 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: bullet holes. Today, Penny still feels under threat in her 253 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: own community. Remember the BLM rally from earlier. While Penny 254 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: Blue and Rocky Mount residents were peacefully demonstrating, the local 255 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: militia had just out of you, armed and watching. We 256 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: have pictures of the militia that was right down the streets. 257 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: So we had children and grandparents out there that day 258 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: and they had the militia with guns across the street. 259 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: If the militia had been visible at my rally, that 260 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: would have concerned me very much. Militia groups like these 261 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: often claim that they're turning up to keep everyone safe 262 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 1: and make sure things stay calm, because what's more calming 263 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: than a troop of anonymous white gunman shadowing a BLM protest. 264 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: And the way Penny sees it, these militia groups are 265 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: driven by the same forces that took officers for Racker 266 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: and Robertson to the capital on January six. And I'm 267 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: not talking about online radicalization or the ratcheting power of 268 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: social media, which pushes people towards evermore extreme beliefs. I'm 269 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: talking about something much deeper. Most people need to understand 270 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: their history a little better. If you understood your history 271 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: a little better, then you would understand a lot more 272 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: of what's going on today. A lot of people talk 273 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: about the Confederate flag and it being in the capital 274 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: and that being such a big deal. We're living in 275 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: Franklin County. We see the Confederate flag all the time. 276 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: Penny volunteers at the book Or T. Washington National Monument 277 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: in Franklin County. It's the estate and a farmhouse where 278 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: Booker T. Washington, the educator and author, was born into slavery. 279 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: I have learned that success is to be measured not 280 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: so much by the position that one has reached in 281 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: life as by the obstacles which he has overcome while 282 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: trying to succeed. Penny spends her free time dressed up 283 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: as Washington's mother, giving history lessons to visitors. For her, 284 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 1: the Capital riot is just the latest iteration of an 285 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: ancient battle that's always been part of the story of America. 286 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: Those who backed the January sixth rioters say the storming 287 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: of the Capitol had nothing to do with racism. Penny 288 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: argues that a casual glance back at the history books 289 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: reveals some striking parallels. It amazed me the number of 290 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: people that tried to tell me that the Civil War 291 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: was not about slavery, and when you have the conversation, oh, 292 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: it was about states rights. Yes, states rights to own slaves. 293 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: The idea that the Civil War wasn't actually about slavery 294 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: is known as the Lost Cause narrative. It paints the 295 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: Confederate States as heroic and erases the horrors of the 296 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: slave trade. According to Lost Cause mythology, enslaved people were 297 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: happy and even grateful to their Antebellum masters. It's basically 298 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: lying about history. I had that to the insurrection because 299 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: they show it on TV in the news almost on 300 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: a daily basis. Yet Congress, people who one day or 301 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: fraid for their lives now are saying it was just 302 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: people that were visiting the capital on January six. I 303 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: never felt threatened. I didn't. Watching the TV footage of 304 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: those who entered the capital and walked through Statuary Hall, 305 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: I knew those are people that love this country. If 306 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit. 307 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: Even though we can see it with our own eyes. 308 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: It's trying to rewrite history. It wasn't. It wasn't an 309 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: armed invasion by a brigade of dangerous white supremacists. Those 310 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: are wise. So this is why Penny was unsurprised to 311 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: learn that two local cops would be joining the far 312 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: right throng at the insurrection. To her, it's just the 313 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: natural evolution of the deeply rooted beliefs. A lot of 314 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: people in her community hold Trump did not have to 315 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: radicalize anyone. They learned this from birth. All he did 316 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: was take advantage of what was there. And I don't 317 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: want to speak anything into existence, but just to say, 318 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: I am not surprised that Donald Trump was elected. I 319 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: am not surprised about the insurrection, and I don't know 320 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: what the next things will be. The events in Franklin 321 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: County are a microcosm of modern America. Cops going bad, 322 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: society at each other's throats, and right at the heart 323 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: of it all too competing narratives, not just about the election, 324 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: but about America's history and this kid glove treatment of 325 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: the far right. It doesn't just happen in small town 326 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: p d s or during BLM. Proud boy clashes in 327 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: major cities. It also happens at a policy level, right 328 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: at the very top. Someone who has seen this firsthand 329 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: is a security expert named Darryl Johnson. Like Penny Blue, 330 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: Arroll wasn't remotely surprised by the events of January six. 331 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: He comes from a conservative Mormon family in Utah and 332 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: on paper, has a background that wouldn't have sounded out 333 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: of place at the Capitol on January six. But Darrell 334 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: has dedicated his career to confronting right wing domestic extremism. 335 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: He's a former analyst at the Department for Homeland Security. 336 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: Today he runs a consulting firm called dt Analytics, and 337 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: the reason he no longer works for the DHS is 338 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: quite a story. When I sat down with Darryll, he 339 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: told me that groups like the Franklin County Militia follow 340 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: the pattern he's seen playing out nationally with other far 341 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: right militias like the Oathkeepers. These people are recruited with 342 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: specialized skill sets that they've learned in the military and 343 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: police forces. They have access to investigative information as well as, 344 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 1: you know, maybe classified information, so it poses a unique threat, 345 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: an insider threat or counterintelligence threat. Just to be clear, 346 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: there's been no implication that Jacob Fracker and t. J. 347 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: Robertson were members of the Oath Keepers, but their rhetoric 348 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: on social media bears a lot of similarities to the 349 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: idea that the militiamen subscribed to. Plus, you know, Robertson 350 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: bought thirty four guns while out on bail and banned 351 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: from owning a firearm. I think a lot of militia 352 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: guys would approve These anti government militia groups are getting 353 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: more agitated and more active and been arming themselves for 354 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: the past couple of decades, and they are definitely the 355 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: most capable of conducting a mass act of violence just 356 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: with the sheer amount of weaponry that they hoard an 357 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: ammunition that they've stockpiled. This is a threat as old 358 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: as America itself. Darryl has seen the far right recruiting 359 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: people with military and law enforcement experience many times across 360 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: his career. Darryl knows as well as anyone what can 361 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: happen when trained soldiers become extremists. Chaos in downtown Oklahoma 362 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: City after what police believed to be a twelve hundred 363 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: pound car bomb ripped through the nine story Federal Building 364 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: in Timothy McVeigh, a decorated U. S. Army teran, murdered 365 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty eight people when he detonated a 366 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: homemade fertilizer bomb at the Alfred Piemura Federal Building in 367 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City, and in its shadow the exhausted, who for 368 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: a day and a half now have sifted through its 369 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: debris and counted it's dead and seen up close why 370 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: they call it terror. Darrell witnessed the aftermath of that 371 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: terror firsthand when he visited the wreckage soon after. The 372 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 1: makeshift memorial will still up with the various notes and 373 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: flowers and teddy bears tied to the fencing. The candlelight 374 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: vigils were still laying on the sidewalks, and I made 375 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: a commitment to myself that I would do anything I 376 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: could to try to prevent the next terrorist attack, either 377 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: against the military overseas or here at home. McVeigh was 378 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: a veteran and an anti government white supremacist. The bombing 379 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: triggered a major crackdown on right wing extremists by federal authorities. 380 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: The Department of Justice, the FBI, a t F and 381 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: others disrupted many plots, rounded up key leaders on conspiracy 382 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: and other charges and disrupted these groups and movements, and 383 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: it worked. According to data from bipartisan think tank the 384 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: Center for Strategic and International Studies, in nine there were 385 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: forty three major right wing terrorist attacks and plots in 386 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: the USA, around eight of all terrorist incidents. By two 387 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: thousand two, that felt a fifteen with only four right 388 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: wing plots or attacks, And as the right wing terror 389 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:43,719 Speaker 1: threat declined, eleven came along. Suddenly the state security apparatus 390 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: was throwing everyone at combating Islamic extremism, everyone apart from 391 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: one guy. When I arrived at Homeland Security, I was 392 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: actually the only person at the Office of Intelligence Analysis 393 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: monitoring this threat that's right in the middle ots. The 394 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security had just person analyzing far right threats. 395 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: And you know, the crazy thing is the Oklahoma City 396 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: bombing hadn't really been all that long ago. But in 397 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: two thousand eight, two things happened that changed everything. Barack Obama, 398 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: forty seven years old, will become the President elect of 399 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: the United States, but now tumbled more than five hundred points. 400 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: After two pillars of the Street tumbled over the weekend. 401 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: Lehman Brothers a one hundred and fifty eight year old 402 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: firm filed for bankruptcy. Barack Obama becomes the first black 403 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: president of the United States, and the financial crash plunges 404 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: the world into an economic crisis. Membership of white supremacists 405 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,959 Speaker 1: and other far right groups begins to surge. I remember 406 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: reading literature by white supremacists years ago talking about when 407 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: the black occupies the white houses be the lowest point 408 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: in America, and here that realization came true. Add the 409 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: financial crash to Obama's presidency and you have the perfect 410 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: storm for far right recruitment. The economic downturn creates fear. 411 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: People want to blame or scapegoat their economic problems. You know, 412 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: jobs going overseas, immigrants coming in taking American jobs. So 413 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: those two main things created this fertile ground for recruitment 414 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: and radicalization among white supremacists and militia groups and sovereign citizens. 415 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: And some of these groups make a point of recruiting 416 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: directly from the police. I called out the linkage between 417 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: returning military veterans and these extremist groups targeting them for 418 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: recruitment to boost their violent capabilities. Based on Darryl sounding 419 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: the alarm, the Department of Homeland Security begins to scale 420 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: up his department. By two thousand nine, his one man 421 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: band has grown to a team of eight, and we 422 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: actually had plans of hiring more people because there was 423 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: so much work to do. In April two tho nine, 424 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: Daryl and his team put everything they've learned into a 425 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: port It's a guide to help law enforcement around the 426 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: country deal with new threats. There are a lot of 427 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: documents like this released every year, and most of the 428 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: time they only reach a niche audience. But this time 429 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: was different. A new report by the Department of Homeland 430 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: Security creating quite a stir. It's entitled quote right Wing Extremism, 431 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:25,959 Speaker 1: current economic and political climate fueling resurgence and radicalization and recruitment. 432 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: Here it is. The right wing media machine painted the 433 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: report as a partisan attack on the political right. Speak out, 434 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: get shut down. Even just the words right wing extremism 435 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: got denounced as a political tool that was being used 436 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: to demonize ordinary conservatives and good old fashioned patriots. Their 437 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: definition of a right wing extremists sounds awfully close to 438 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: somebody who might simply just disagree with the Obama administration. 439 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: Darryll's analysis of how the fire right targets former soldiers 440 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: because of their military experience, was framed as an attack 441 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: on veterans right wing right wing extremist Act. For example, 442 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: they would define it as people that maybe think we're 443 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: not controlling our borders, people that are pro life pumper 444 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: stickers concerned. This is nothing more than concerned Americans exercising 445 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: their First Amendment rights, and the left and the ovamb 446 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: administration is clearly trying to take it away. Extremist for 447 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: saying in God we trust. Daryl watched the backlash play 448 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: out on his TV. Really, it was actually kind of 449 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: shocking and surreal to sit there and see people spinning 450 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: it politically. We have a Department of Homeland Security equating 451 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, our domestic terrorism with you know, the vets 452 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: coming home from Iraq, taking things out of context and 453 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: just outright making up lies about it. It seems like 454 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: they're more concerned with the threat here at home than 455 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: they are the threat abroad. I was conservative Mormon, third 456 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: generation Republican when I wrote that report, and they were 457 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: trying to say it was some sort of of a 458 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: political insider on the left that was somehow trying to 459 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: demonize the far right and the conservative movement. Despite the 460 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: media fallout, Daryl trusted his bosses to back him. My 461 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: leadership at DHS, they knew the type of analysts I was. 462 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: They knew that I did good work. But days later, 463 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano made a public apology to 464 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: veterans for the report, and behind the scenes things changed drastically. 465 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: What happened with this political firestorm is they immediately shut 466 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: down all the valuable work that we were doing, training 467 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: that we were giving, all of the intelligence reporting, finished 468 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: intelligence that we were working on came to a stop. 469 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: Darrel was told that it's just a temporary measure until 470 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: the controversy dies down, but that was just a cover 471 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: to reorganize, to dismantle the team, reassigned us to do 472 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: other work. By two thousand and ten, there was nobody 473 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: at the Office of tell his Analysis doing this type 474 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: of work on the level that we were doing earlier. 475 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: Not long after Daryll quit and found a job in 476 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: the private sector, he felt unmoored politically and personally. You know, 477 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: that really caused me to do a lot of self reflection. 478 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: So today I'm a different person than I was, you know, 479 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: ten eleven twelve years ago. Because of that experience, a 480 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: lot more moderate, tolerant, and more independent than I ever been. 481 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: Darryl sounded the alarm for what we saw on January six, 482 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: twelve years early, but he was shouted down. Today, the 483 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: number of right wing plots and attacks have surpassed the 484 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: peak they reached in the mid nineteen nineties. Right Wing 485 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: terrorism accounted for over of all terrorist plots and attacks 486 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: in the United States between January and May, according to 487 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: the Center for Strategic and International Studies. Darrell believes that 488 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: to truly break the side ale of far right radicalization 489 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: in the United States, something significant needs to change. Conservative 490 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 1: voices need to get on board. If I can call 491 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: out this threat being a conservative, Mormon Republican, why can't 492 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: my fellow Republicans and Congress do the same. And I 493 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: still challenge them to this day to do the right 494 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: thing and to call out this threat and to condemn it, 495 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: because failing to do that has allowed these groups to proliferate, 496 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: and it actually emboldens these people. For Penny seeing the 497 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: violence of the far right play out on the ground, 498 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: and Daryl trying to stop far right attacks as a 499 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: senior member of Law Enforcement in Washington, the Capital Riot 500 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: did not come out of the blue. For Penny, the 501 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: riot and it's subsequent retelling is an eerie echo of 502 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: the Lost Cause narrative that the Civil War was about 503 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: states rights, not upholding slavery. In both cases, violence has 504 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: whitewashed his noble patriot is m For Darryl, the conservative backlash, 505 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: which hampered efforts to tackle right wing domestic terrorism and 506 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,919 Speaker 1: painted his vital report as a left wing attack, laid 507 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: the groundwork for a far right surge on January six. 508 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: In both cases, the truth about oppressive, racist, or otherwise 509 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: radical right forces is obscured by a story that makes 510 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: any attempt to call them out and attack an ordinary, 511 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: well meaning conservatives. In my home of Portland, Oregon, I've 512 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: seen the effects of this first hand. Violent rallies like 513 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: the one we heard at the start of this episode 514 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: where my hand was broken by a proud boy, are 515 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: now a regular occurrence. If you've only caught occasional hazy 516 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: stories from our city on the news, you've likely missed 517 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: a key part of the story, which is that time 518 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: and again Portland police have sat by and allowed proud 519 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: boys to drive through town beating unarmed protesters and shooting 520 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: pedestrians with paintball guns. This permissive attitude made Portland a 521 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 1: safe place for these groups to get experience and test 522 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: tactics before rioting in places like Washington, d C. On 523 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:06,240 Speaker 1: December twenty one, armed far right protesters breached the windows 524 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: of the Oregon state capital Salem, roughly an hour from Portland, 525 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: in what would prove an eerie prelude to January six. 526 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: They assaulted journalists, broke windows, and maced police officers and 527 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: their attempt to assault elected leaders. What happened in d 528 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: C on January six was not a surprise to anyone 529 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: who paid attention to the far right in Oregon. These 530 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: people have made their plans and goals clear for quite 531 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: some time. The bravery of individual capital police officers does 532 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: not change the fact that none of this would be 533 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: happening without the acquiescence and active support of law enforcement 534 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: officers around the country. In the next and final episode, 535 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,919 Speaker 1: we meet the army of digital sluits who have risen 536 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: up to identify rioters. This is one of the leaders. 537 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 1: This is a person who has come here with all 538 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: of this information, who has a plan. In this final installment, 539 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: we go inside the digital dragnet m HM