1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Guess what decision we're about to make horrible decisions. Hey guys, 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of horrible. 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: That might have been good. Yea, that was pretty good. 4 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: It's because I haven't been sucking good. So my vocal 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: cords are just it's it's just new. They're not damaged. 6 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: You just making it up, both of y'all. I'm your girl, Mandy. 7 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 2: V aka pay the Stallion aka that bitch. 8 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: What's up, y'all? I'm weezy, And today we have a guest. 9 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: Mandy and her know each other, but she's one of 10 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: my favorite TikTok people. And I don't even have a TikTok. 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: That's crazy that you don't have a TikTok. We watch 12 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: TikTok on Instagram, I watch it on Twitter, but people 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: like just send me things. And I was looking for 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: a guest because I feel like everybody's like interviewing dating 15 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: coaches recently, and they all have the same kind of 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: like mundane voice in a way, and it's kind of 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: annoying me. So I was like, damn, who could we 18 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: like interview that actually creates content around dating? And it 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: was perfect when I found you, especially, So wait, how 20 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 1: do y'all know each other through Chelsea. Yeah. So she's 21 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: the first woman who's ever left me speechless. I have 22 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: ever been speechless in my entire life. What was she 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: talking about as, Oh, yeah, I don't know what would 24 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 1: we talk about yourl I feel like I would say 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: some crazy shit that I did, and then my ship 26 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: seemed like PG to her. She would say something and 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: I started feeling got prude. I was like, well, I've 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: only pegged one guy. She was like, I know. I 29 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: was like, okay, you're talking about we were on street, 30 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: we were getting having a fancy ass dinner, talk about sucking. 31 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: But then also when when she was so everyone in 32 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: that group is married as partners, I'm the only single 33 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: bitch going around like just really trying to fig us 34 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: on this. This was no, this was a year, year 35 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: or two ago. You were a single year ago. Maybe 36 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: at the time, maybe at the time, maybe you know, 37 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: maybe I was on one of my thirteen brains. Yeah, 38 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: I was on one of my I was on one 39 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: of my thirteen brains. 40 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: And we also go to Soho house and everyone's dancing. 41 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: Because this is when, by the way, shout out black 42 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 2: girls texting. They threw likes here in the summertime the 43 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: Soho house. So we're on the rooftop. 44 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: I look over and some of y'all saved the video 45 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: because everyone wanted to know who the hell you were. 46 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: This girl has one leg on the ground, the other 47 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:32,399 Speaker 1: leg literally behind this man moving her ass. And I said, oh, 48 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: this is why you gotta ring. This is why you 49 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: getting it because I cannot do this. I might still 50 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: have it on my phone because you asked both in 51 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: my hands the ways the PA. I said, Oh, I 52 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: ain't never gonna get a man if I gotta do this, okay. 53 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: So it's not beauty, It's not just beauty and not 54 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: just brains. 55 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: She is fun, she like and I think that when 56 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: when you think of like beautiful girls who get rich 57 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: niggas or things like that. Like even to find out 58 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 2: like he graduated from fucking Columbia, which, bytom way, you 59 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: had a cute man that was in your class, and 60 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 2: I'm mad he moved back overseas, you know what I know. 61 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: And so I think to be in a group as 62 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 2: as myself who isn't seeking marriage and things like that, 63 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 2: it was really interesting to be around because there's Gabby, 64 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: there's Chelsea, there's all these women who literally want the 65 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 2: opposite of what I do. So when we all get together, 66 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: like there's just so many different narratives on how to 67 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: do things. And what's crazy too, is I know what 68 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 2: I've been coming on here saying, and we're gonna get 69 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: into dating. 70 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: I actually was told something not to do when dating. 71 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: Now now that I'm like going out dating from these 72 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: types of conversations, I've been actually told I am shooting 73 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: myself in the foot for going into dates saying I 74 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: don't want kids, I don't want marriage, I don't want 75 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: all the things that I talk about on this pod. 76 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: Because I told you that I was in a group. 77 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: It wasn't even a girl that I know. This was 78 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: in LA. 79 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: So we're all at talks and I'm like, yeah, girl, 80 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: I don't want this, I don't want this, and she 81 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: was like, oh, well, then if you go into dates 82 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: letting a guy know there's literally gonna be zero things 83 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: for him to show up and want to pursue with you. Yeah, 84 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: even as a man, say they don't even want those things. No, 85 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: but as soon as they know you don't want you, 86 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: that's interesting. 87 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: So literally it was like, oh no, go in and 88 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: say you want to ring summer Walker, go in. 89 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: And say you want a faithful man. Go in and 90 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: maybe because you want to be a mom, because they're 91 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: not our guests by the way, so you Yeah, I 92 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: think like man are exploitative in nature, And what I 93 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: mean by that is if you give them an inch, 94 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: they're going to take them out. Like I think that's 95 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: who they are. Like if you ask for the bare minimum, 96 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna just give you less. But like that's just 97 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: that's just who they are humans. So I feel like 98 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: you need to set the bar so high to get 99 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: the bare ridimum. Like I think when you're going in 100 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: there and being like, oh, I don't want kids, I 101 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: don't want to ring, I don't want this, I don't 102 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: want that, then they're gonna be like, well, nigga, I'll 103 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: give you this. Yeah exactly, I'm not gonna give you shit. 104 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: Like I agree with you. I don't want any of 105 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: that too. But the fact that you don't want it, 106 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: why am I going to show up for you? You know, 107 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: what do you want? Then? A long term partners really matter? Yeah, 108 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: I just feel like it's none of their fucking business 109 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: what you want. You know what I'm saying why because 110 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: they're not even really about to give you what you 111 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: what you really want, you know what I'm saying, Like 112 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: they're not sitting there actually trying to take notes, like 113 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: let me deliver what she fucking wants. No, we all 114 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: fuck they gonna give you what they want to give you, 115 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: so at least go in there and like have some requirements, 116 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: you know, like when you show up for a job interview. 117 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: You're not gonna go in there and be like, I 118 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: don't want no breaks, I don't want no bonus, I 119 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: don't want this, I don't want that. They're gonna be like, Okay, well, 120 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: we still not gonna give you any of that. But 121 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: the fact that you don't want it now we're thinking 122 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: about maybe I should give this to the next person, 123 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: or not only that, maybe I'll give it to you 124 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: and you're gonna show up and do all the things 125 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: and yeah, liver because you're gonna want me to give 126 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: you those things that. Yeah. So let me ask you 127 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: this because for some reason it's making me think of situationships. 128 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: Do you think that by a women saying she's not 129 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: looking for X y Z that she can possibly end 130 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: up in a situationship because there's not. Like A said, 131 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it depends on the woman. Like I feel 132 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: like when you go into a situation and announce what 133 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: you don't want, you're setting your pigeonholing yourself, Like I 134 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: think you should keep that just close to the chest 135 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: so that if you do want to pivot, and if 136 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: you do end up wanting more, then great. It's always 137 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: easier to ask for more and then want less than 138 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: ask for less and then want and want in this 139 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: relationship though, and say, like, you know, even you saying 140 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: that you're not an emotional person or you don't want love, 141 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: I believe you said you don't want you need a kiss, 142 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: you don't need to do intimacy. 143 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: But that was so no, no, no no, So as of 144 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: right now, those are actually why I'm not in these 145 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: casual sex relationships anymore. I absolutely want kissing, I'm saying, 146 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: but from. 147 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: Before, so when I hear you today, I believe you 148 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: about nothing except kids. I think that if the right 149 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: person came in and really changed your life and made 150 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: you feel whole and you see yourself as a and 151 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: and he's on your level, I think that you can 152 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: understand marriage and you'd be like, yeah, why I think 153 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: you might even lock kids. I don't know, maybe not 154 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: like via yourself, like maybe via surrogate. You don't know. 155 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: So I'll be honest with you too in terms of marriage, 156 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: especially now, I think that marriage to me, and we 157 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: can get into what that looks like as well, because 158 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: y'all we got a lawyer, so we talking prenupts and 159 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: all the things. To me, marriage after realistically, this relationship 160 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: with you, the relationship with Bridget, those are partnerships. I 161 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: don't want no more with him, thanks, I ain't gonna 162 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: hold you. The idea of splitting assets, the idea of 163 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: actually really holding out in something that maybe doesn't make 164 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: me feel good in the moment, Like I can walk 165 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: away easier in friendships or boyfriend relationships than I've been 166 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: able to do from. 167 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: You or or Bridge. Maybe that is the idea of 168 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: a bit, maybe with your ex because he wasn't necessarily 169 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: the Krem de la Crem of niggas financially, but if 170 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: he was, you might want married. 171 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: But that's the thing then to me, am I just 172 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: marrying for money? As of right now, I'm in a 173 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: place where you don't have to. I don't have to 174 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: marry for money. 175 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: So here's why you had to make a partnership with me. 176 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: Can't speak for bridget. We're building something amazing and we 177 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: knew it was becoming financially lucrative, and that's why we 178 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: had to do that, and we to this day can't 179 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: even break that because that's how much our shit is worth. 180 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: If one of us wanted to leave, we'd be figuring 181 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: out what the fuck we would do with a small person. 182 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: At my point, if you built a relationship with someone 183 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: and started building an amazing life and building businesses and 184 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: having things that are more than just surface level, you 185 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: may want that marriage. And I imagine how brain works 186 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: with a friend when you build a business. 187 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: And that's my thing. I don't believe in friendships and business. 188 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,479 Speaker 2: I don't believe in like navigating. 189 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: Those podcasts, even you've even made podcast that you produce, Like, 190 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get you to see beyond like 191 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: your no as more to your connection with a friend 192 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: is not as deep as the partner that may be 193 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: the one you end up with forever. Right, So if 194 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: you could decide to produce a podcast for friends, or 195 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: decide to get a take a fucking cruise with a 196 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: friend and do a vacation thing and do a club 197 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: night with them. You might come up with something bigger 198 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: and better with the man that's meant to be for you. 199 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I think when you meet someone that's 200 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: probably going to be your mate, they're going to fill 201 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: you up way more than your friends that are smart 202 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: and business minded. I mean, that's definitely, that's definitely true. 203 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: I think maybe marriage for you is not right now, 204 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: and that right now may never come. Also right right 205 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: it might. It might be not right now, and you 206 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: say that for the rest of your life, or you 207 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: might meet someone or ten people you never know right 208 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: that make you want to commit, that make you want 209 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: to not be able to easily walk away. Men are 210 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: better than the last men you dated. For like, I 211 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: don't know about that. I don't know about that. I 212 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: don't know. 213 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: But also I know about a lot of Like me 214 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: and my friends talk about all the partners they have, 215 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 2: some of y'all listen, none of them, niggas is good here. 216 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: There's not one man that any of my friend date 217 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: or that you would want to be what I would 218 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: want to be with. And so even when I look 219 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: back at my ex or any of the men honestly 220 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: throughout my twenties. And I know y'all, y'all are sick 221 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: of hearing about my ex When I look at even 222 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: all of the men that either made me cry that 223 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: I opened my legs too, that I sat here and 224 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: wanted to spend so much time with. When I look 225 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: at literally the like, I wish I could take all 226 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: that shit back. None of them niggas was good. 227 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: I look at a lot of them now, None of 228 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: them nigga would have fulfilled me or made me happy 229 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: and who I am today? 230 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: Like, so to be there, nah, you think do you think? 231 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: Do you do you think there's anyone who's happy? Well? 232 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: Man, So here's the thing. It's not even with And 233 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: I don't, of course want to make this mail back yeah, 234 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: because no, no, no, I don't think it is. 235 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: Well. 236 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of queer people that listen 237 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: to right, So in relationships as a whole, I think 238 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: that unfortunately we've gotten to a place where romantic relationships 239 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: have these impossible expectations. I agree, And so that's the problem. 240 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: So when I'm sitting here traveling with my friends, like 241 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: I just spent a fucking week in Abu Dhabi and 242 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: it was fucking amazing. 243 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: And what if you met a man that would buy 244 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: the grip with you in Abu Dhabi? I mean, but 245 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. So that's still okay. Cool. Let 246 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: me sit here and get a sugar dady, let me 247 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: see here and make a transactional relationship. 248 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: That's fine. But when I sit here and think about 249 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: the the unrealistic expectations of a partner, and most romantically, 250 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: it's emotionally, it's financially it's you sit here and give 251 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: this person X amount of time to do you wrong. 252 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: Mind you a friend fuck up? One time you cut 253 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: them out, You cut them out. There's just all of 254 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: these things. And also you don't want to share a 255 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: romantic partner. You have these jealousies and these emotions that 256 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: you don't realize this with family or friends. 257 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: To me, those those types of relationships really are confusing 258 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: to me now because when I sit here and talk 259 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 2: to my friends about it, I'm like, why are we 260 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: doing this? Why are we suggesting subjecting ourselves? Well, what's 261 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: the other option? 262 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: If you are a woman who wants marriage and children, 263 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: what is our other option but to subject ourselves to 264 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: the bullshit. But also there's I love my work, like 265 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: I feel like I have amazing job, jobs whatever, like 266 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: nothing good comes without bullshit. No, I agree, agree, right, 267 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: so like I expect that it won't be worse. I agree, 268 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: And I think like our grandma's generation was so bad 269 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: where they were getting their ass bet every day, and 270 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: then I think one thing a new generation always does 271 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: is we swing the pendulum so far to the right 272 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: because we want to get away from this. And so 273 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: we've swung the pendulum so far to the right where 274 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: we're like, oh, he does this cut him off, Like 275 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be like my mom. I'm not gonna 276 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: be like my grandma. And it's like, you know, there's 277 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: a middle ground. There's a middle ground, and we keep 278 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: doing this. It's the same thing that we did with 279 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: the whole like feminist movement. Right bitches over here, we're like, oh, 280 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: I don't I want to go to work, Like I 281 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 1: don't want to sit at home and make sandwiches. We 282 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: swung the pendulum so far to the right, being like 283 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: oh no, like now now everybody wants to stay at home. 284 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: Now everybody wants to rely on me. It's like we 285 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: can't seem to sit in a middle ground. We can't 286 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: seem to say, well, the reason why those women wanted 287 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: to go to work was because they couldn't fucking own 288 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: property or have a bank account without a man. And 289 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: the reason you bitches want to sit at home is 290 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: because going to work and working in nine to five 291 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: is not built for the female. You know, body, why 292 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: don't we find something in the middle ground and try 293 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: to find careers that fulfill us and that inspire us. 294 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: And you know, we can't make our money. But men 295 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: still are chivalrous and they're still masculine in all of that. 296 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: So do you lean into the patriarchy as a woman 297 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: who's a lawyer. Yeah, I don't know what your middle 298 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 2: ground is to how you've been able to achieve professional success. Yeah, 299 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 2: but you've also been able to be very much into 300 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: your divine femininity to where you're not a masculine woman present. 301 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, your relationship you are. I actually disagree. 302 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: I think that your videos have ella masculine energy. Yeah, 303 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 2: but in a good way. 304 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: Well, like the videos are one thing I'm talking about 305 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: in her relationship. Maybe the relationship, but I was gonna say, 306 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: you definitely give me like to me, that's why that's 307 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: why you see the comments where dudes are mad, they 308 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: don't get mad at the girls that have the soft attitude. Especially. 309 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: There's a video I like of you as I'm trying 310 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: to think, it's fresh on my mind because I look 311 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: this morning, you're in a workout outfit. Yeah, I'm talking 312 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: about your body looks amazing, beaut Okay, yes, anyway, you 313 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: know you guys tell me I don't know this, Like 314 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm a layers two times anyway, and then you go 315 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: back into it and it's like it's so strong that 316 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: I feel like men even when they're looking at you, 317 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: be beautiful. You were in your kitchen, yeah, look dainty. Yeah. 318 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: Just the assertiveness is masculinity to me. Well, to me, 319 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: the assertiveness is femininity. So to me, it's like, I 320 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: think right now, the way that things are being portrayed 321 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: as masculine is strong in your face, assertive, right, and 322 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: feminine is thinky and quiet and speaks like this, And 323 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: I just I don't, I don't. I don't believe that. 324 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: I think feminine is being strong, but being strong like 325 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: having this internal strength, right, and I think masculine is 326 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: a little bit more. I think it's like a roughness 327 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: that that isn't quite strategic, that isn't quite tailored. But 328 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: I think to be a strong woman and to be 329 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: assertive is to be extremely feminine. And the reason why 330 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: I want to push back on that is because for 331 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: so long we've lived in a society where the feminine 332 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: woman was the dainty, quiet woman. And what that's done 333 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: is it has made white women be extremely feminine, and 334 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: Black women and women of color be considered extremely because 335 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: they're assertive, because they're loud, because or they're exactly what 336 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: they want. Right. So I want to push back on 337 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: this notion of what is feminine and what is masculine, 338 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: and this idea that like the strong and the quiet 339 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: are the two worlds that we have to do. Yeah. No, 340 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: I am a feminine spoken woman. Yeah, who will like 341 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: fuck you up, period, you know what I mean? That's 342 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: who I am, Like I'm and and everyone. The way 343 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: that I am in my relationship is kind of a 344 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: mixture of that. Like I am feminine. I mean, you 345 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: have to understand, I was raised in a Middle Eastern culture, 346 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: in a Middle Eastern household. What does that mean? That 347 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: means literally, from the time that I was a child. 348 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: Everything I've done, everything that I was pushed to do, 349 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: was not to be great individually, but to be great 350 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: in order for a man to pick me for me'ron. Okay, 351 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: So like Middle Eastern Muslim household, you're just you're raised 352 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: to be a wife. Not every culture raises women to 353 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: be a wife, but you're raised to be a wife 354 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: from from the very beginning. You're like, let me go 355 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: to law school and get degrees. Not because I just 356 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: fucking am so excited to be a lawyer, but because 357 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: that's just going to increase That's what. That's where I'll 358 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: meet a man and that will increase my value and 359 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: potential of them finding a greater man. What were the 360 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: what were culturally the sexual like I don't know the 361 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: views maybe when you were growing up, because I know 362 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: with black women it's always like you're moving too fast 363 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: or this or that or like the thing that we're 364 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: not supposed to you know, do when we're growing up. 365 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: But what was it in Middle Eastern culture? Like I mean, 366 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: you're not supposed to do shit. We person you run, 367 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: You're not supposed to be doing shit. And I was 368 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: I was just a bad kid, like I've I had 369 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: a growth spur from sixth grade to seventh grade. So 370 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: I've been damn near six feet tall since I was 371 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: thirteen years old. I've looked exactly the same. The only 372 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: thing that's changed is my nose because I've got two 373 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: rundo plasties. But other than that, I've just looked exactly 374 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,239 Speaker 1: the same. And you weren't allowed to do anything, you know, 375 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: like and I grew up in that household where my 376 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: mother wears the hit job, so we come from a 377 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: very religious household. When I was nine years old, I 378 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: decided I wanted to wear the hit job so I 379 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: could be like, you know, I'm a little girl. I 380 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: want to be just like my mom. It coincides a 381 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: nine to eleven, so I'm getting teased at school and 382 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: I come home and I tell my parents, yeah, about 383 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: that hit job, like I don't want to wear that anymore, 384 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: and they're like, no, no, you can't change your mind. 385 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: And I was like, you can't change your mind. I 386 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: can't change my mind. So from the time I was 387 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: twelve thirteen, I'm going to school like low Ki burk 388 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: it out and then I'm changing into the smallest mini 389 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: skirt and I'm like I'm a fast little girl. At 390 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: the time, I'm not telling people I'm twelve thirteen. I'm 391 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: going meeting guys in college who are seventeen eighteen, and 392 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: I'm doing the things. And it was bad. It got. 393 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: It got so bad that the way my dad found 394 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: out about everything, who and imagine he thinks I'm like 395 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: a good girl who's wearing a hit job. My mother 396 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: had a trip planned to Iran. He goes and drops 397 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: her off at the airport, and my little twelve thirteen 398 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: year old mind, I calculated that I had more time 399 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: than I actually did. Me and my little home best friend. 400 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: She comes over. We invite two guys who are college 401 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: football players. She's having full on sex with one in bed, 402 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: and I'm damn near naked. In a song, my dad 403 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: walks in, Ohls, my Middle Eastern Muslim father walks in 404 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: and drops to his knees with black girl. Yes they 405 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: were black. So I just wanted to know because I 406 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: know it's worse and what happened, I mean, it was 407 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: just like a pause for a second. And my dad's 408 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: a big dude. My dad's six or four. My dad 409 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: was a bodybuilder. He trained with Arnold, So I get 410 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: the fuck out of here, and the guys they run out, 411 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: And the next day my parents took me to a 412 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: doctor to see if I was a vision or not. 413 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: Oh wait not then to pull on the TI on you. 414 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: And the wild part is I had never had sex, y'all. 415 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: I had never had sex. Okay, but your hymen can 416 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: rip in a variety of fucking ways. 417 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 2: And I will say that was that is one of 418 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: the myths that if you're in like anywhere from your 419 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: earth on, the idea was if your hymen was broken, 420 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 2: you had to have sex. 421 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: We now know you could do from riding a bike 422 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 1: from from I'll be honest, I think that even today 423 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: that same propaganda's push though I don't think that in 424 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: schools they're teaching that, Like, no, they're not. But I 425 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: think that I think our generation that you're cherry popping, 426 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: cherry popping like it's something that we're all expecting. Yeah, 427 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: and you have to understand, I never, like, I never bled, 428 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: and I also used to think that whenever your cherry pops, 429 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: you bleed. But there's hymens that don't bleed you could 430 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: rip into. I don't know. 431 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 2: I think the first time that I had actually was 432 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: the first day of my period. So I bled like 433 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 2: for three days after I lost my virginity. But I 434 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: think it's because my period just came on and at 435 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 2: that point I wasn't tracking when it came, like you 436 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: didn't have like the same idea of being in tune 437 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: with your body. So where I thought my cherry pops, 438 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: I bled like a period didn't day. So I never 439 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 2: really correlated that. 440 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: Oh I remember. I remember the feeling. It felt like 441 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: a pop. It was it could have been diction, I 442 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: mean addiction, dictionary, definition. It was like everything about it 443 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: and it was a stream that came out and then 444 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: it was finished. It was crazy. Oh oh yeah, No 445 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: that I didn't have that. I didn't have that experience. Okay, yeah, 446 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: but my dad took me and you know, it's against 447 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: the fucking law. Like wait, what's against the law. You're 448 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: not you're not you're not supposed to be taking your 449 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: daughter and like a lawyers asking whether or not her 450 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: hymen is ripped, like you have to low ki, make 451 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: a doctor tell you that you can't. That's a I 452 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: don't know how t I did it, but I know 453 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: in California where I was at the time, they had 454 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: to tell the doctor like I remember the doctor distinctly 455 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: telling them I'm not allowed to share this information with you, 456 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: and they were like, you know the doctor was also Persian. 457 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: They're like, come on, bro, like what's up. And she 458 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, her hymen's ripped. And I looked at 459 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: the bitch, like, my hymen's ripped. I went home that 460 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: day and and they just even though even though I 461 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: had never had sex, dude, I didn't even believe I 462 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: was eighteen. No, still to this day, my parents don't 463 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: fucking believe me. And I went home. My daddy, your 464 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: best friend, I know she was. She was getting getting 465 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: down and I wasn't. My thongb so I contact booze 466 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: Yo soil evidence. My best friend growing up was Persian. 467 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: Is it can I say Persian? Yeah? Okay, because some 468 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: people say running yeah so everybody. I don't know if 469 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: it's because it's like they look Latina but they're but 470 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: there's a more exotic look. Black men go crazy for 471 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: Middle Eastern girls. Like in my high school, I remember 472 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: maybe five girls and I was like, why are they 473 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: always get fucked? And I'm not, but they all say 474 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: we would go and sneak around to like city Walk. 475 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: It was this place in universe. So we'd go meet 476 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: the boys, go to the club, come home. Yeah, her 477 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: mom came in there, slapped the ship out of her, 478 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, am I in this too. 479 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: And I remember her mom specifically talking about how she 480 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: was supposed to be with someone else, and I think, 481 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: even and I'm only thirty two, she had an arranged 482 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: marriage like ready now she ended up not getting married, 483 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: but I remember her telling me like, oh, like me 484 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: going on and looking at boys is not what my 485 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: family wants. They're yeah, you don't. You don't do that, 486 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: like you go through the traditional route of suitors come 487 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: to your house. Yeah, tell us about that. Yeah, I 488 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: mean it were these suitors, like people in your freaking community, 489 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: Like okay, on a billboard what they do? No, it's 490 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: like think about you got you got your little aunts, 491 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: you know, not your real aunts. And they have sons, 492 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: you know, and you go to like someone's wedding or 493 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: someone's party and they and they see you and they're like, oh, 494 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: she's she's pretty, like she would be great for your son. Whatever, 495 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: and the entire family with the boys shows up to 496 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: your house with gifts and whatever, and asks for your 497 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: hand in marriage, being like Bridgitton, how you met them 498 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,239 Speaker 1: before at this point? Yeah, I mean in that like 499 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: in in Iran right now and like the small villages, no, 500 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: it'll be your first time meeting them. But in more 501 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: recent modern times, yeah, it's like sometimes it's it's your man, 502 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: but the families don't know hold so like they literally 503 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: come okay, how many like is it? I mean it 504 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: depends on how like and how suitable you are, and 505 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: it depends like again where you are. So if you're 506 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: in Iran, you start getting them at like fifteen sixteen, 507 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: suit of the fifteen and how old are the men 508 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: are they also fifteen sixteen or they're like nineteen twenty. Oh, 509 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: some girls get grown men. It depends on like your 510 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: value and like your package. If you're a girl who 511 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: comes from a more impoverished family, you're not highly educated. 512 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: Whatever your family is trying to marry you off into 513 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: a higher into locum, into loki, whatever family will take you, 514 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: because the finances are they get shifted over there. Right 515 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,719 Speaker 1: So in like some very very traditional extremists, it's like 516 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: the daughters are fifteen sixteen and they're getting wet off 517 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: to like thirty thirty five five year old men. Now 518 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: in more modern times like today, there's a lot of 519 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: boys that I grew up with, you know, just by 520 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: virtue of going to the mosque, going to like different occasions, 521 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: and I'm seeing the guys, and my mom is meeting 522 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: their mom their mom, and so now all of our 523 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: families are friends. Now we want to marry within one another. 524 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: And so the moms aren't stupid, Like if they see 525 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,239 Speaker 1: if she knows that her son likes me, and if 526 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: it's obvious that I like her son, then they're like, 527 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: why don't we go about it the right way? And 528 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: they show up to your house and the hands for 529 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: you for your hand in marriage, and this happens over 530 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: and over again until you say yes. Damn, how many 531 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: times have you been proposed to? Five? JAYZ? Five is 532 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: a lot? And what makes you as how you can 533 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 1: say no? Then clearly you can say no. Yeah, you 534 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: could say no as many times. I mean I started 535 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: getting suitors when I was like seventeen eighteen, just hearing 536 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: the words suitors. I mean I honestly, when I was younger, 537 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: I was like, this is whack. I want to go date, 538 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: Like I if I could go back. I would do 539 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: the suitors thing. It's a gettom out here is a 540 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: fucking ghetto bro. At least you know, this man is 541 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: shown up with intention right with his family. So what 542 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: he's gonna disrespect you after he came and looked your 543 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: mom and dad in the eye day one. No he's not. 544 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: They do and you know they still do. They still do. 545 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: They still do? They still do? They still do. But 546 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: like the chances are low lower and at least the 547 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: timeline that you're on, you're not sitting around. Is he 548 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: going to propose? Is he not going to propose? I 549 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: like it, And maybe this is just the way I 550 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: was raised off the bat, I know you want to 551 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: marry me, and then it's just a matter of whether 552 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: or not I want to marry you. Back. Did any 553 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: of those suitors already have wives? Because a lot of 554 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: so when you're where your Persians don't do that. Don't 555 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: do the multiple wives? Okay, So do I don't black 556 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: I don't. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, it is mym 557 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: I don't. And I don't want to generalize, generalize and 558 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: say no Persians do that because there are a lot 559 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: of there's like loop marriages, Okay, temporary marriages in Iran 560 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: that a lot of guys do engage in with. But 561 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: it's not traditional for Persians to have multiple wives. Okay, 562 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: so it's more of like a broader Muslim concept. But 563 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: I want to readily practice in Iran as growing up 564 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: knowing like this is what you know my life should be, 565 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: Like I should be meeting the married guy. I mean 566 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: not meeting the married guy. Yeah, you know, meeting people 567 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: want to marry, meeting someone just out in the open, 568 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: which I'm assuming you met your partner life right, like 569 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: in the real world. Yeah, what standards? Do you think 570 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: that maybe even your upbringing made him feel more pressure. 571 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: I mean from the moment I met him, I said, 572 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: do you have six months? I was married before, right, 573 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: So I got married when I was twenty years old. Okay, 574 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: I went back to Iran. My parents were like, you 575 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: need to marry a Persian Muslim guy. And keep in mind, 576 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: my grandfather is from Ghana, so like we do, but 577 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: it's Iran. They don't want to admit that. Like I 578 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: watch all my aunts get their skin bleach, like the 579 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: concept of even talking about us being black. Like from 580 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: the time I was young, I would tell my mom like, hey, Mom, like, 581 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: I don't look like the other Persian girls, Like it's 582 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like what's going on here? 583 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: Because they, yeah, they don't, they don't. They don't like 584 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: to you said, no, Ghana, they would. They don't like 585 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: to really admit that they're black, right, And that's that's 586 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: a whole other issue that they don't like to admit. 587 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: But there's a lot of Afro Persians, like a lot, 588 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: a lot, right, I've met a few, there's a lot. 589 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: So anyway, I go to Iran and I'm like, I 590 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: gotta just find something that's middle ground because my parents 591 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: want me to be with a Persian Muslim guy. I don't, 592 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: so let me find one with tattoos who's like kind 593 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: of a hood dude. Like, I don't know, I gotta 594 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: find something in the middle and I and I found 595 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: a guy who was I was twenty, he was twenty five. 596 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: He was tatted up, and like, you wanted something more American, 597 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: did you feel? Like? Yeah, I wanted something a little 598 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: bit more western and modern and modern. I wanted to 599 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: get away from my parents and making me wear a hijob. 600 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: That's like the only thing that I was focused on okay, 601 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: And in a lot of these households, it's like transfer 602 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: of ownership from like your dad to your man. And 603 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: I was like, I'd rather go to you know, a 604 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: new owner that that's gonna be. That's gonna let me 605 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: do more shit right now. I could drink, now, I 606 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: could party, now, I could not wear hit job whatever. 607 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: So when I when I met my current partner, I 608 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: was just like, I don't really believe in the dating shit, 609 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: Like I really don't. If I were to do it again, 610 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: I would run the same play. I don't believe in dating. 611 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: I think it's so fucking stupid. I think it's time consuming. 612 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: I think it always benefits men more than women because 613 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: I think we live in a society. I mean, I 614 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: think if you ask the fucking right questions, what the 615 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: fuck are we if we're grown, if we're over thirty, 616 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: what are we talking about? Bro? What are we talking about? So? 617 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: What does the conversation look like? Talk about it? Okay, 618 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: what are your views? Let me pull out my notes. 619 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm currently dating, so let me write this down. What 620 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: are your views? Their views on religion? That's a big one. 621 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: I mean, if you go to any if you go 622 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: to any therapist. If you go to any therapist, they 623 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: say there's five reasons why people separate. So it's like, 624 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: just take those five reasons and work backwards. What are 625 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: your views on fucking religion? What are your views on parents? 626 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: And how involved your parents need to be in our lives? 627 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: And what fucking mommy daddy issues do you have? And 628 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: if you don't know what mommy daddy issues you have, 629 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: why don't you and go figure the fuck out? Because 630 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to deal with your EDIU complex you 631 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: over here either wanting to fuck your mom secretly internally 632 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: and or hate your mom and take it out on women, 633 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: like I'm not trying to deal with that. Talk about finances, 634 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: what role do you think I play in finances? What 635 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: role do you play in finances? Should we have a budget? Like? 636 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: Is this an allowance situation? You know? Talk about that, 637 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: talk about having children, timeline of children, how do you 638 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: want to raise children? Raise your child? You have that 639 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: ask you hold, Well, if you've been dating someone for 640 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: how many years you're gonna talking to the mic? Come on, 641 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: act like you'd be on a podcast? How long for 642 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: those questions that she just said? How long did it 643 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: take for you to know all those answers. What's pretty simple. 644 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: So like I initially I knew that everything. 645 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 2: Needed to focus on that was there, and then I 646 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 2: just needed a little bit more time, maybe like maybe 647 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 2: like six months, and it. 648 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: Was like, okay, you know why I wanted to ask that. 649 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: I was really curious as to people that have been 650 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: together for longer and three years to me as long 651 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: if they knew that early. I think you find out 652 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: really early. I think the reason why people then delay 653 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: it is because committing to someone for the rest of 654 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: your life is a long fucking time and it's a 655 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: hard thing to do. So if I'm a man and 656 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: I could just I could push that commitment off for 657 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: a little bit and still have the option to walk away, 658 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: why the fuck would I not take up that option? 659 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: Why would I? If you know that you are if 660 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: you if you sign a contract right, you could sign 661 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: it today or you could sign it in two years 662 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: where you gonna keep getting the benefits of the contract. 663 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: Why would you sign it today now by yourself? That 664 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: we've heard Tom and Tommigan from men and women, yeah 665 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: that are trying to advise people in dating or marriage 666 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: that conversations like these scare people off. Yeah, commitment folks, now, 667 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: but I mean that's on a first date. I mean yeah. 668 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: I mean don't go in there and be like, whoa, 669 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: what's up? You know what I mean? Like what are 670 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: your views on marriage? What are your views on joke? Like, 671 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: like you gotta be you gotta have some finesse to it, 672 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: you know, like eat the fucking food. 673 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 2: You know, what's your favorite the fucking drink? 674 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: Like what's your favorite football team? Like? And that you 675 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: you got to just know a way to navigate and 676 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: weave questions in because also you don't want to let 677 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: people know that you're about to ask this intense question 678 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: and they give you a miss America answer. You want 679 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: their true, authentic respond When do you know you're no 680 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: longer getting the representative because men are gonna show up 681 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: and sure to give you the answers they know that 682 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: you want to hear, but that may not even be 683 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: who they are. How do you lean? I mean, that's 684 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,479 Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is you could do everything 685 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: right and still and it's still in those bulls right, 686 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: and you could do everything wrong and it's a lie. 687 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: It Okay, we might get an accident because the other 688 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: person sucks up. We I think at the end of 689 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: the day, as a woman, you can only do so much, okay, 690 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: and you can't blame yourself if shit goes left, Like 691 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: you have to you have to just be true to 692 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: yourself and and do the things that you know you're 693 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: supposed to do. And then if it doesn't work out, dude, 694 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: fuck it, fuck it, who cares? Fuck it? It didn't 695 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: work out? Next there is always a net now or 696 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: or or like figure it out there. But like, you 697 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: can't sit around blame yourself, like, oh, I was so stupid. 698 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: I was so stupid. I was so stupid. Like I've 699 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: had so many relationships where I've sat there for so 700 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: long and blame myself, like I was so stupid. I 701 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: embarrassed myself. I did this and this, and I look 702 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: back and I'm like and what and what? Like I 703 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,719 Speaker 1: figured it out or I didn't, but and what right 704 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit here and blame myself for a man's actions. 705 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: M Why would I fucking do that. 706 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit here and I meant myself forget to 707 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 2: blame game myself for staying in. 708 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: Something that I knew wasn't healthy. That's too long it 709 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: goes that. But yeah, like take responsibility when you go 710 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: from victim to volunteer, take responsibility for that. But also 711 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: like sitting around berating yourself, other people gonna do that 712 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: for you. You don't you know, you don't do it 713 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: for you. And and just people can't wait to remind you. 714 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: People can't wait to see someone who's doing wealth fall 715 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: because it makes them feel finally like they are they 716 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: are close in power to you. Oh girl, I know, 717 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 1: I know the people. 718 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 2: It was happy when I started going through my turmoil 719 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 2: because I was in in bliss the whole first year. 720 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: They're like, no way, this man is this person and 721 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: people don't like that. And then I don't think that 722 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: people want to see you you you and pain. I 723 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: think I think people probably felt like maybe you were 724 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: out of touch for a moment because you were so 725 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: in love. 726 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 2: But also but also he showed up. I'm the person 727 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 2: though where where I see friends and I know people 728 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 2: who are dating somebody five months in, they're like, we 729 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 2: need therapy together what so to me, there's also this 730 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 2: false sense that you can actually be in a honeymoon 731 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 2: phase for longer than three months or six months, and 732 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 2: the fact that of course my honeymoon phase was a 733 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 2: year long. But also it might have been out of 734 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 2: touch because I met him in a pandemic. Nothing was 735 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: normal during the pandemic, so where literally we didn't have 736 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 2: all of the outside things, My schedule wasn't busy, all 737 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 2: of the things that it was just initially affected the 738 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 2: relationship happened when the world opened back. 739 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: Also, I think as a podcaster, it's like people will 740 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: hold you accountable to the thing you said last week. 741 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: So for you to turn into someone who's like, oh 742 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 1: my god, my boyfriend's perfect, that's what true. He was perfect, 743 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. But I look like it has 744 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: to do with people to see him paint. I'm just 745 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: trying to oh no, no, no no. 746 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 2: But also, if we're coming in here recording a month 747 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 2: where the content. 748 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: In two days, yes, the way even we do it 749 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: is but. 750 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 2: Like y'all, y'all were getting my moods in two days 751 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 2: spread out for a month, and you know what I mean, Wolf, 752 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 2: So even if maybe we had a little bump in 753 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 2: the road, by the time we come back into the 754 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 2: studio and then they've resolved it, I've resolved it and 755 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 2: I'm back in bliss or if y'all heard me fucking crying. 756 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 2: There's weeks where I've cried, and it looks like I'm 757 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 2: crying for a whole month. 758 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: Bitch. We came in here two days. 759 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 2: And recorded a month worth of content, and my emotions 760 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 2: within a certain timeframe are going to be very similar. 761 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 1: But this is what I'm saying. You're allowed to be wrong. Oh, 762 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: You're allowed to be wrong at a man. You're allowed 763 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: to be wrong about a situation. You're You're allowed to 764 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: be fucking wrong because you're a human and you can 765 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: only go off of what's being shown to you, right, Like, 766 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: what what were you supposed to do? Come in and 767 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: be like, I'm happy, but I'm skeptic, Like that's not 768 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: feel weird talking about that. I'm talking about previous dating views, 769 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: and that's what I mean about when you meet someone 770 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: that changes your view. You were not the girl you 771 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: were in a relationship. I'm not going to let you 772 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: skate by that bro you turned. I also taught our 773 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: relationship girlfriendy I'm cooking, but. 774 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 2: Also again the day to day, but it's not the 775 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 2: man that changed me. 776 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: And that's the thing. I've been in therapy now for 777 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: two years. Let's be very clear how I view myself. 778 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: I got my degree, I got two degrees, and I 779 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: talked about I felt worthless in my twenties. 780 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 2: I didn't cook, I led with sex, I wasn't confident 781 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 2: because of my body. The way I valued myself is 782 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 2: completely different than now. It's completely different than when I 783 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 2: was in my relationship. Do you think that he was 784 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 2: then the catalyst to showing you. 785 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: You to me? 786 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 2: To me, it was seeing value and now being so 787 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 2: comfortable in my body, to being able to afford and 788 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 2: not go into a relationship Transactionally, I finally felt value 789 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,879 Speaker 2: in being able to like a man because I liked him, 790 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 2: not because of what he could provide. Again, through therapy, 791 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 2: I worked on setting boundaries. I worked on communication. You said, 792 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 2: my communication has gotten better. I have genuinely through the 793 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 2: pandemic after graduating, leaving my career, and focusing on building 794 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 2: myself professionally and personally, I genuinely feel like a better 795 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,959 Speaker 2: person and so to me even though he was able 796 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 2: to receive that. That's where I've also been in this 797 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 2: weird place with casual sex and just letting any guy 798 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 2: come into my life because I'm like, oh wait, I'm 799 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 2: actually a good motherfucking catch. 800 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: I just had not heard you speak that way until him. 801 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: But again, that's why I said that. But that's not 802 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: that I didn't know you. But that's where I get 803 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: a degree a well. But that's where I want to 804 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: be very clear. That man did not make me a 805 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: better person. I would't say you're a good person because well, 806 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,240 Speaker 1: and I'm not. I'm just saying all of these reasons again. 807 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 2: My degree therapy over the last two and a half years, 808 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 2: me working on myself is now why I feel like 809 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 2: I showed up as a better partner for him. So 810 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 2: when I sit here and literally cry and be like, damn, 811 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 2: how the fuck did I still get fucked over when 812 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 2: I was showing up as the best version of myself? 813 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 2: That's why I'm beating myself too. 814 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: Damn. 815 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 2: Even me showing up as the best version of myself 816 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 2: didn't give me the result of a menagure. 817 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: But I wanted you know what I mean. 818 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 2: You know, the way I showed up to him had 819 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 2: a lot to do with myself work. And I think 820 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 2: that a lot of women ship shipped in shape who 821 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,479 Speaker 2: they are in relationships without doing the self work, which 822 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 2: is why now I'm having a hard time fucking dating 823 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 2: because oh, you don't want to work. 824 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 1: You're telling you there's too sometimes therapy. I said this 825 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. Oh yeah, I agree, like healing, 826 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,720 Speaker 1: you got to cut it off at a certain points 827 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: because now you not you're too healed. And every time 828 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 1: somebody says something, you're like, well that doesn't work for me, 829 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: and you're rejecting. I could see from what your talk 830 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: too much. I'm like, you know when you can talk 831 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: to someone and you're like, you must have just got 832 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: out of the session again, oh yeah, or people who 833 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: just got out of like a retreat. Like it's like like, 834 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: as a man that's on the tail end of his therapy, 835 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: I feel that, please don't get me. Well, I also 836 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: say this like I and it's become this hype, right, Oh, 837 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: we want a man in therapy, won't we want a 838 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: man in therapy. We got to be really careful because 839 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: there's some trash ass therapists out there and what they have. 840 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: They got these narcissistic men going to therapy and they're 841 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: lying to these therapists about because the therapy is about 842 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: your version of the ourself in for a second, for 843 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: the men listening. Yes, I've been meeting a lot of 844 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: narcissistic women, and I'm almost exhausted with the narcissistic men bullshit. 845 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: There are psychotic women out there. I'm just not dating them, 846 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: so I don't know them. No, I'm in reality. I 847 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: think we're overdosed with narcissistic male content, yes, and not 848 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: enough narcissistic women. But the point is these people are 849 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: our friends, our sisters, our moms and coworkers. Yeah, and 850 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: then we sit there listening to this fucking bullshit from 851 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: them and don't even realize. I agree, we should be 852 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: learning the same skills when we're watching that video clip 853 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: of someone being a narcissistic man and how to deal 854 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: with them or whatever. I don't think we're seeing it 855 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: the other way. And I think the issue now is 856 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 1: women are almost feeling so empowered by seeing this one 857 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: piece of content, but now they're fucking putting that shit 858 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: out into the world. And some of it comes from 859 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: the I'm holding myself at this tier of person. A 860 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: lot of that narcissistic shit that men have is feeling 861 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 1: like their self worth is inflated, and I've been seeing 862 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: women do it way done. 863 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 2: Women are doing the same thing. One maybe four. Now 864 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna just say three, so y'all can't three. Three 865 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,720 Speaker 2: of my homegirls recently had their phones gone through niggas 866 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 2: is out here going through phones, laptops, Apple watches. 867 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: All of these holes was cheating and. 868 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 2: All of them went to the men, who literally are 869 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 2: upset that you invY my prophecies, you know. All of 870 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 2: their response was well, I trusted you, and you sat 871 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 2: here and went through my things. All of the women 872 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 2: answered the same way and gas lit the men who 873 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 2: are sitting here seeing them entertain other men, on dating apps, 874 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 2: on seeking arrangement, fucking other people, also talking shit about 875 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 2: them to the. 876 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 1: Oh, this is the one I want to talk about 877 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: BDD and I that's what they said. Who's a dude 878 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,439 Speaker 1: off for years? Right? He said, I need to ask 879 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 1: you this question because I feel like you're gonna give 880 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: me the most honest answer. Why the fuck two women 881 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 1: talk shit about men that they're actually into. Why do 882 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: you go in the group chat and you fucking downplace? Oh? Yeah, yeah, no, No, 883 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: I think I think I think we have to be 884 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 1: so careful because if I'm coming to you every day 885 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: and being like my man is in shit, My man 886 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,879 Speaker 1: is in shit, My man is a ship. And then 887 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, why don't you respect my man? Why 888 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: don't you respect my relationship? Well, all I do is 889 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: talk about you don't respect him? Yes, And also like 890 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: I know, I go home and I have sex and 891 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: the oxytocin reminds me how great he is. But you 892 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: don't have that experience. So I'm just ruining your view 893 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: of someone over and over and over again. I also think, 894 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: if someone is that horrible where you're talking about the 895 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: bro when I tell you I ate for three years. 896 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,399 Speaker 1: Every time I would get in a little fun, little shit, 897 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: I would tell But for the most part I was like, 898 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: I am not about to walk in parade around. We 899 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: were living in Mexico together, bitch, I was enjoying my life, 900 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: was he not shiit? No, But I'm gonna tell y'all 901 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: that we're having a ball. You don't want a beach. 902 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 1: And the older the older you get, the more you 903 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: realize how many women are actually with anight shit dudes, 904 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 1: but you don't know about it. 905 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 2: Well, not only well, not only that, Let's be very clear, 906 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 2: a lot of women aren't admitting to themselves how ancient 907 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,839 Speaker 2: they are in their relationships as precisely. So literally, if 908 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 2: you're sitting here telling me all these things, yet bitch. 909 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: I know you, I know you cheating on him, I 910 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: know you talking to another nick. Yeah. 911 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 2: So also, why are you holding this idea of this 912 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 2: faithful man when you're not faithful. So there's a lot 913 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 2: of ways in which women are feeling to show up 914 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 2: in the relationships the way that they want their partners. 915 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: I think women aren't faithful because they want to keep 916 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 1: the roster bro most women I know today. It makes 917 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: sense a little bit because like our entire view of 918 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: relationships is like fully centered on infidelity when there's so 919 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: many other ways you could betray a person boom, right, 920 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 1: but tell us tell it like our society And I 921 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: get why, but our society is so focused on like 922 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: infidelity being like the big headline thing. But there are 923 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: so many ways you could like neglect a person, you 924 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: could over a person, you could emotionally starve a person 925 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: like you could, you could make someone feel worthless, you 926 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: could belittle them. There's so many ways that are that 927 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: that women do engage in with men, right, that are 928 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 1: never headlines. And then the man cheats, which is not 929 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 1: a fucking excuse. There's noever fucking excuse. But then there's 930 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: no conversation where a woman can come and say I 931 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: did X, Y, and Z wrong in the relationship. That 932 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: does not excuse and it does not justify why he 933 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: cheated on me. That is a separate issue. But let 934 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: me admit to the things and my fault in a relationship. 935 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: You know that often it's like, once you get cheated on, 936 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 1: you get to carry the woman, you get to hide behind. 937 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,280 Speaker 1: I got cheated on, Well, well, what were you doing wrong? 938 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 1: Not dude, justify him cheating, but what were you doing wrong? 939 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 1: Because there's a dynamic at play and your dynamic is 940 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 1: fucked up? What are you doing wrong in your dynamic? 941 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 1: Not because you care about him, but because you need 942 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 1: to figure out what you're doing wrong here so that 943 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: when you go to the next person. I think, I know, 944 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 1: fix it? What is yours? I think that when I 945 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: was getting cheated on, I was in the first time. 946 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 1: I don't think I did anything wrong. Okay, I think 947 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 1: my response to the cheating allowed for the continual cheating 948 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,359 Speaker 1: in what way because I wasn't as serious, I didn't 949 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 1: stick by what I said in the first time about 950 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: leaving him, about setting boundaries, like I remember getting right 951 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,760 Speaker 1: back with him because I thought it was just sex. 952 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: Even though that may have been true, I never upheld 953 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: myself to the standard of whatever. I can't remember what 954 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: I set forth, But like he knew there was no 955 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: consequence to it. He knew he wasn't losing me. And 956 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: then the more he cheated, the more I was okay 957 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,360 Speaker 1: with it, but either cheating because of it. So I 958 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: was so frustrated with the cheating, but then I would 959 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 1: act a certain way, so I wasn't doing the girlfriend 960 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 1: ship that I set out to do when I took 961 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 1: him back as my boyfriend because I was so mad 962 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 1: about the cheating when reality, I should have just left him. 963 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: Like I think, I wasn't sticking to the plan that 964 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 1: I had for myself. And I think because he knew 965 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: that I wasn't doing that, it allowed him to keep cheating. 966 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,760 Speaker 1: If I'm telling you I have a plan for my business, 967 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in three cities next year, and I 968 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: don't do it, and I keep screaming about it, You're 969 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 1: gonna be like, Okay, this bit chain about shit. Yeah, 970 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 1: I stick to what the fuck I say when it 971 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,479 Speaker 1: comes to my money, and I always do. I don't 972 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 1: take l's from it. But with my relationship, I kept 973 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: taking l's on what I said I would stand for it. 974 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 1: And I think he saw that everything else in my 975 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 1: life I was very very good at doing. He knew it. 976 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 1: I would get up, it didn't matter what it was. 977 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 1: If I was hungover, drunk, I'm still gonna make it. 978 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 1: I never miss a flight. I'm always on point with shit. 979 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: But for the relationship, it was always like this. 980 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was saying in the beginning, though 981 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 2: your heart's I know how I show up, and like 982 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 2: for most people generally speaking, now, how you show up 983 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 2: professionally and in friendships just innately, unfortunately is different than romantic. 984 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: Of course it just is, and so somewhere, no, it does. 985 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 2: But that's where, unfortunately, because there's whatever the oxytocin that 986 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 2: we get when we fucking these big dick good dick nicholas, 987 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,439 Speaker 2: we be so dumb in not being able to show 988 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 2: up as ourselves and how we know how to show 989 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,360 Speaker 2: up in business or with friendships. For whatever reason, a 990 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 2: lot of those boundaries are not kept the way we communicate, 991 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 2: the way we really put those hardcore things down they 992 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 2: they're a little bit more blurry in romantic relationships. 993 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not gonna be the same as the platonics. 994 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: Like if my girlfriend doesn't respond in two days when 995 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 1: she hits me, I am, I'm not gonna be like, 996 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 1: where have you been? You don't care about my emotions, 997 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 1: you don't care about my well being. I'm like, what's 998 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: that big man? But if that man doesn't talk to 999 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 1: me two days, like you don't care about my well being, 1000 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 1: you hate me? You are you know what I'm saying, Like, 1001 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 1: I also think we but we said ourselves for failure 1002 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 1: when we compare anything to romantic relationships, the expectations of 1003 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 1: romantic relationships that are have the conversation last night donating 1004 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:14,320 Speaker 1: was fasting and so fasting from what right? Food, alcohol, 1005 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,280 Speaker 1: everything right for like twenty four hours. So we were talking, 1006 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 1: maybe like around three pm that day I went to 1007 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 1: like a food convention thing so he couldn't come fasting, 1008 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: And then like three pm I said something. This one's 1009 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,439 Speaker 1: fucking responded to me until the next day. I said, what, 1010 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,799 Speaker 1: bitch were you fasting with? Like are you out of 1011 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 1: your mind? That's what you said? Yes, And He's like, 1012 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 1: how is it possible that your brain went to another 1013 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 1: woman just because I didn't talk to you? By the way, 1014 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: I don't like. Wolf was over there just shaking his 1015 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,320 Speaker 1: head like, well, I like, what's part of my brain wound? 1016 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: A part of my brain where men are out here 1017 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:51,840 Speaker 1: fucking passive passive with my math? You know part you 1018 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 1: want to not talk to me? You better tell me 1019 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: you don't want to talk to me period. You better say, yo, 1020 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 1: I need a minute for this past. I'm not about 1021 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:05,800 Speaker 1: to fame, but I know he is he this is 1022 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: the whole type ship. And I tell you can I 1023 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: tell you? But I understand why you asked that because 1024 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 1: one time during Ramadan, my current man, I was not 1025 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 1: into him at the time, so I lied and was like, 1026 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 1: it's Ramadan, I can't have sex, So I didn't have 1027 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 1: So that's why that's so toxic. That's exactly why you 1028 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: should not trust men. Bro. So he's like, yo, I'm like, 1029 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 1: so what should do this one? And he's like, yo, 1030 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 1: Like I just was tapped out. I was just trying 1031 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,880 Speaker 1: to spiritually tune in with the bitch. And I'm like, 1032 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: how did you break your past? He told me what 1033 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: He's like, I had a kill salad with salmon? Where 1034 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,240 Speaker 1: did you eat that out lunch for the bitch? Because 1035 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 1: I know you ain't make no motherfucker kill salad? And yo, 1036 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:51,399 Speaker 1: who even told you about kill salad? Bitch? Bitch? Yeah, yeah, 1037 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 1: I don't care to kill. That's you, niggah, You telling 1038 00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 1: me right now you have salmon and kill. No, he laughed. 1039 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 1: And think I'm being you are, but I'm right and no, 1040 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 1: And this is probably some ship you were you were 1041 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 1: doing in your list relationship talking about I wasn't doing 1042 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,399 Speaker 1: nothing wrong and then he cheated first of all, changing 1043 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: the I started cheating too. But anyway, let's go to 1044 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 1: why the girls want to talk to you? So I 1045 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 1: want to talk about one of my favorite things you 1046 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: said in the video. There's so many favorite things. Being 1047 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 1: with a rich man is lit. Now, obviously that would 1048 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 1: be the case, but how are the girls going to 1049 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 1: find him and how are they going to keep him? Okay, 1050 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 1: let's start with being with a rich man is lit. 1051 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 1: That was said in the context of in comparison to 1052 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 1: being with a four man. Okay, Okay, Like, obviously, if 1053 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: you take two men who are identical in every way, 1054 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: one has money, and one does it. Obviously you should 1055 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 1: pick the one who has money. That being said, and 1056 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 1: I've tried to I've tried to make videos about this, 1057 00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:58,839 Speaker 1: and like the girls don't want to hear this side 1058 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 1: of it. Being with a rich man comes with shit too, right, 1059 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 1: It comes with a lot of shit on its own, 1060 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,400 Speaker 1: So I don't ever want to romanticize, like being with 1061 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: a wealthy man is just like so incredible and so 1062 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 1: amazing and so like, it comes with a whole host 1063 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,759 Speaker 1: of its own shit. One thing I'll just say, overview, 1064 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,839 Speaker 1: if you are with a man who a minority, right, 1065 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 1: who's a millionaire within a capitalist, white supremacist society, that 1066 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: man has to have believed in himself so much to 1067 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 1: get himself there, right, like you need to, because how 1068 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 1: the fuck else are you gonna write? How are you 1069 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 1: gonna move through all these fucking systems A lot of 1070 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 1: these men have as a result, they have God complexes. 1071 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 1: They they do have some bits of narcissism. They have 1072 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:51,239 Speaker 1: high high egos like that doesn't stop at work, that 1073 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 1: comes home. These are their personality traits. So the personality 1074 00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,120 Speaker 1: traits that sometimes contribute to a man being extremely wealthy 1075 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:05,280 Speaker 1: includes lack of empathy, being able to compartmentalize, not being 1076 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,359 Speaker 1: overly emotional. Those are the things that we have seen 1077 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,400 Speaker 1: historically make a great leader, and it allows him to, 1078 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 1: no matter what bullshit he has, go and make a 1079 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 1: lot of money. Now you bring that home and you 1080 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 1: bring that into a relationship. It's not exactly amazing all 1081 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 1: the time. A man who doesn't have empathy. 1082 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 2: Or now has these expectations of you to show up 1083 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,799 Speaker 2: as maybe his soldier only because now science the leader first, 1084 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 2: he sees himself as. 1085 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,880 Speaker 1: A leader all the way around. Unless, like when we 1086 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: spoke with a dom, a lot of them may want 1087 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,879 Speaker 1: to get into kink submiss the roles in that way. 1088 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 1: But yes, I want to say this is interesting. So 1089 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,839 Speaker 1: black women are surpassing black men in an entrepreneurial sense, 1090 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 1: and college degrees and finances by I think it's like 1091 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 1: six times or something. So if that's the case and 1092 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,879 Speaker 1: we don't really need the money, let's just say, I mean, 1093 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 1: we still want it. But should women with money then 1094 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 1: be pursued someone who's maybe not the richest kind. No, 1095 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,359 Speaker 1: I actually think this is where it's all fucked up, 1096 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 1: And I actually think women are completely fucked And I'll 1097 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: explain to you why, Like, no, I gent what I mean, 1098 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 1: we're fucked. I think I think if you're I think, 1099 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,840 Speaker 1: if you're a woman who makes money, you have two options. 1100 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 1: Either dating a man with money. Now, that's hard because 1101 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 1: if you're in the one percent, there's only one percent 1102 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,239 Speaker 1: for you to date, right, and you either work with 1103 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,319 Speaker 1: all of them. And that's assuming the people in that 1104 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,239 Speaker 1: one percent who financially match up with you also match 1105 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,880 Speaker 1: up with you religiously, culturally, height wise, wait wise, look wise, 1106 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 1: character wise, like all that. I mean, the chances of 1107 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 1: that are very fucking slim. So you're kind of fucked 1108 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 1: right here. Your other option is going and dating a 1109 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 1: man who makes less than you. Now, the problem is, 1110 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,279 Speaker 1: I believe there's something innately within a man where if 1111 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 1: he does not make more money than you. Now there's exceptions, 1112 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 1: but if he does not make more money than you, 1113 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,799 Speaker 1: there's something about him and his ego as a man 1114 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 1: that gets like compromised, like where he needs to like 1115 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,359 Speaker 1: fulfill it some other way, which is why you have 1116 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 1: women who end up dating men who make less and 1117 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,359 Speaker 1: then getting cheated on by those men because they can't 1118 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 1: seem to feel like men without the financial aspect of it, 1119 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,400 Speaker 1: and now a lot of that is attributed to a 1120 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 1: patriarchal society. So you're kind of fucked either which way. 1121 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: Well guess me that enough. I mean, I don't I 1122 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,880 Speaker 1: don't mean to say like, oh gooo, who, like we're fucked, 1123 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 1: but like, let's be completely realistic, let's have honest conversations. 1124 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 1: As a woman, it is hard to find a fucking partner. 1125 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,760 Speaker 1: It just is. Your options are finding someone who matches 1126 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: at your level, which is hard. If you have fucking skyrocketed, right, 1127 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 1: if you have like a normal paying job and on 1128 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 1: normal degrees, that's great, you have more options. But I 1129 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,239 Speaker 1: always said this, like it's really hard for me to date. 1130 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 1: I am six feet tall. That that in itself, the 1131 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 1: number of the doctorate, Yeah, with with with the jd J. 1132 00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm I'm barred in two different states, and then I 1133 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 1: have another degree from Columbia and out of call, out 1134 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 1: of law school, I was making two fifty. So who 1135 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 1: am I dating? And I'm Muslim and I'm attractive, so 1136 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 1: I have to you know what I mean, Like, there's 1137 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 1: there's a total but like ten men available for me. 1138 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: Four of them I've already fucked. The other ones with 1139 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 1: my girlfriend. I hate jam. 1140 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,919 Speaker 2: So then let me ask you getting into the relationships 1141 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 2: only because I know we said we would talk about it, 1142 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 2: and I would love to know how you went into it. 1143 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 1: Prenups. 1144 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so a woman finally gets married, especially maybe one 1145 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 2: with her own assets or maybe not. 1146 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,439 Speaker 1: We could talk speak to both women. Yeah, you feel 1147 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 1: like prenups are a good thing and need to be happy. 1148 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know a lot of women and men. 1149 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 2: Now that word has had such a negative connotation with 1150 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 2: and Jasmin and Chino. I don't fucking body you if 1151 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 2: you do the Primo. I love that show first of all. 1152 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,800 Speaker 2: And she's an insane human and the reason she's she 1153 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,280 Speaker 2: didn't know. Yeah, that's why you no one the fucking 1154 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 2: to me. The waits you think are a great thing, 1155 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,279 Speaker 2: I think they're an amazing thing. 1156 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 1: I think they're an amazing thing. If you don't make money, 1157 00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 1: I think they're an amazing thing. If you do make money, 1158 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 1: I think if you decide to want to be a 1159 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 1: stay at home mom, okay, and you make no money, 1160 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 1: but your man is making the money without a prenup 1161 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,400 Speaker 1: when it comes time to get a divorce. Now, this 1162 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:27,400 Speaker 1: berries state by state, state different different laws. What are 1163 00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,799 Speaker 1: you really walking away with? Whereas if you had a 1164 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,440 Speaker 1: prenup and you're like, Okay, I'm going to be a 1165 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 1: stay at home mother and I'm going to get a 1166 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,920 Speaker 1: percentage of this and this and this and this at 1167 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 1: least that because being a state at home mother is 1168 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 1: a job. Is a job, you baby, a job I 1169 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,800 Speaker 1: would so this is what I mean, So the same 1170 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,919 Speaker 1: way that you wouldn't. You wouldn't go into a job 1171 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 1: and be like, you know what, Bud, we'll figure it out, 1172 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 1: like you shouldn't go into a marriage and be like, 1173 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 1: we'll figure it out, because what do you mean? I 1174 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:55,879 Speaker 1: need to know how much i'm a fucking get paid 1175 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 1: in case this shit goes left, because I've given up 1176 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 1: my life to be your part. And because we live 1177 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,319 Speaker 1: within a patriarchal society that's going to allow you to 1178 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 1: go and date other women because you do not have 1179 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,320 Speaker 1: to deal with agism, whereas I fucking do. And you 1180 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,439 Speaker 1: do believe in a woman's value decreasing with I don't 1181 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,880 Speaker 1: believe in it by society. I think we live in 1182 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 1: a society that doesn't. I think it's incorrect, but I 1183 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 1: think we do live in a society that unfortunately values 1184 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,720 Speaker 1: values women based off of our age and the kids, 1185 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 1: that we have something. 1186 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 2: That will make me feel good because I, oh, yeah, 1187 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 2: I think get your fucking money. Broom boom, I think 1188 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,160 Speaker 2: get your money in every way. 1189 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 1: How where do we meet them? Okay, so let's see. 1190 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,919 Speaker 1: I think I was just in Dallas. I was staying 1191 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,840 Speaker 1: at the ritsuh the bar at the Ritz and I 1192 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,080 Speaker 1: got them oil men, listen. 1193 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 2: Take your texas they leave, because then you can't have 1194 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,400 Speaker 2: an abortion. But uh so, hotel bars, hotel bars, but 1195 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 2: go alone. Girls like to go in groups. That's intimidating. 1196 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 1: So can I be honest with you? 1197 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 2: If you go alone and usually a dress like you 1198 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 2: just came from work though, because ye don't look like 1199 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 2: an don't looking at escort of process, not. 1200 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,920 Speaker 1: That there's anything wrong with because there's not way you 1201 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 1: dress mad. 1202 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,440 Speaker 2: I've had friends removed from bars because they were accused 1203 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:14,640 Speaker 2: of being escorts when. 1204 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 1: Literally they weren't. Yes, yes, yeah, you cannot just go. 1205 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 2: Also, ladies to these bars and look like a sex worker, 1206 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 2: because there a lot of times are undercover cops. 1207 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,560 Speaker 1: You will be removed from these bars, especially in major cities. Yeah, 1208 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,919 Speaker 1: my roommate, I had when I was younger. She worked 1209 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,360 Speaker 1: at a hotel called the Peabody in Orlando, and she 1210 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,160 Speaker 1: said the number one tip that they would get where 1211 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,120 Speaker 1: like they had to alert the security, was that the 1212 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 1: person wasn't ordering a drink the woman because waiting for 1213 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,400 Speaker 1: and waiting for I think, I think, order your own 1214 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 1: fucking drink. Well no, they're saying like if you're a 1215 00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 1: sex worker, oh oh got it, got it, you're not 1216 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 1: going to order the drink. But anyway, long story short, 1217 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,240 Speaker 1: Uh so hotel bars. I agree to tell bars who 1218 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 1: I'll be here. It not the folle ring grandma ringtone. Also, 1219 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 1: that is a grandma ass work. My phone was transferred. 1220 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,000 Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, it's update. She ain't set her seting. 1221 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 2: It's going back to factory. 1222 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 1: I think I think at conventions and conferences like, okay, 1223 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to astro Tech. 1224 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 2: You guys, I'm hosting an event I've ever first. I 1225 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 2: think afro Text is an amazing that's where you meet. 1226 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,800 Speaker 2: I did also see and this was a TikTok that 1227 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,760 Speaker 2: I just saw, but that made sense. My homegirl sent 1228 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 2: it to me because now we sing, we're trying to 1229 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 2: scope back. So there was another thing that again when 1230 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 2: you're a one percent, when you're a billionaire, a lot 1231 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 2: of them hang with other billionaire of course, so it 1232 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,640 Speaker 2: was talking about, uh conference like whenever they do the 1233 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:44,200 Speaker 2: boat thing? 1234 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 1: Uh, what's the thing? Our cause was the one Formula one. 1235 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 1: A lot of the billionaires go to the Kentucky Derby. 1236 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,120 Speaker 1: There's a lot of even events that they all like, Now, 1237 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,360 Speaker 1: you guys can all go to this stuff. So I 1238 00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 1: talked about it a few months back the F one event. 1239 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 1: I went to Miami, where they like fucking I met 1240 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 1: the owner of F one Miami and he just star 1241 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,040 Speaker 1: studied me. I think I was sitting next to Tiesto, 1242 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:12,320 Speaker 1: Queen land Tiva like my names. But you can go 1243 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,320 Speaker 1: to F one for like one hundred fifty dollars, right, yeah, 1244 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 1: get it, get it, get there. But this is why 1245 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 1: I say, don't go with too many people. Just have 1246 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 1: one girl, girl, because it's a it's a lot easier 1247 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,120 Speaker 1: at moving person to those guys normally coming to But 1248 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,400 Speaker 1: for a hotel bar, I could see why you said one. Yeah, 1249 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 1: I think you had another video about going out alone. 1250 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,280 Speaker 1: Can you talk about that more for women? Yeah, I 1251 01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 1: mean I just think it's a lot easier and this 1252 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 1: fucking sucks that we have to make ourselves more approachable 1253 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,760 Speaker 1: for men. So like, I know, fucking sucks, but I 1254 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:46,000 Speaker 1: think it's just you're more approachable when you are by yourself. 1255 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,960 Speaker 1: I think sometimes men get really intimidated when there's like 1256 01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,400 Speaker 1: when like a group of five bad bitches, like they're 1257 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,240 Speaker 1: just gonna be like, I don't know, and it's a 1258 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 1: good point that whatever. So when you're by yourself and 1259 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,080 Speaker 1: you look like this is just something I do, like 1260 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:00,959 Speaker 1: I'm not here for you, babe, I just like got 1261 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,120 Speaker 1: off work, even though I am. I just got off 1262 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:04,640 Speaker 1: of work and I'm just here to get a drink 1263 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 1: and this is what I do, it's a lot easier. 1264 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,240 Speaker 1: I also think there's nothing wrong with like sparking up 1265 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 1: a conversation. That does not mean that you need to 1266 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 1: pursue the man, But if he's sitting next to you, 1267 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,400 Speaker 1: you could bait him into a conversation like have you 1268 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 1: ever had the whatever whatever's on the middle, like do 1269 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 1: you know if it's good? And then he'll say something 1270 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 1: and you'll be like okay, but now you you've opened 1271 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,680 Speaker 1: the door saying I'm interested in a conversation if you'd 1272 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,720 Speaker 1: like we can have a conversation. You know what I do. 1273 01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:36,040 Speaker 1: They compliment your outfit. I have noticed my friends, my 1274 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 1: whole boys have told me that they're like, I love 1275 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 1: telling her of our sneakers. Now her head is gassed up, 1276 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,960 Speaker 1: now she's open. I'm thank you. And then boom, you're 1277 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 1: not saying you're hot, You're saying something general. We already 1278 01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 1: know you worked hard on your outfit. Like, I think 1279 01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 1: there are ways that men are even sometimes afraid too. Yeah, 1280 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 1: now we snagged the rich guy. How do we keep 1281 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,400 Speaker 1: how do we keep them? How do we set ourselves 1282 01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,360 Speaker 1: apart from the other women? Because we've been having conversations 1283 01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, like, okay, do women compete? Most 1284 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,320 Speaker 1: women Mandy and our guests at the time are like, 1285 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna compete. I know we compete. I've always 1286 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:15,880 Speaker 1: said there's already a competition. That's what the patriarchy is 1287 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,880 Speaker 1: set up. It's for us to compete against them. For 1288 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,560 Speaker 1: these men. Yeah, Like is that not crazy? But is 1289 01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 1: there a way for a woman to stand out from 1290 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 1: the other women? I don't think. I don't think putting 1291 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,440 Speaker 1: on an act to stand out is a fucking thing. Like, 1292 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,520 Speaker 1: that's not how you are, Like I think, at the 1293 01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,960 Speaker 1: end of the day, you're gonna stand out if you're 1294 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:38,560 Speaker 1: that person's like for them. Yeah, like there's there's you 1295 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 1: can't put on bells and whistles and do all this 1296 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,400 Speaker 1: weird ship to stand out for a man and it's 1297 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,600 Speaker 1: not who you are. And that's once you go into 1298 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:50,040 Speaker 1: a relationship. Because once you go into the relationship, how 1299 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:51,520 Speaker 1: are you gonna come How are you gonna keep up 1300 01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 1: the act. There's so many times I've heard or men say, like, 1301 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,480 Speaker 1: I don't have an ex that's ever said like we 1302 01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 1: stopped sucking, because that was always me. They've never been like, oh, 1303 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,439 Speaker 1: she used to dress up or do this and blah 1304 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 1: blah blah and stop. That was always me at least 1305 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,760 Speaker 1: sexual aspect. Right, Yeah, maybe I stopped cooking too much, 1306 01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,920 Speaker 1: But I do know that, like the sex was always 1307 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,600 Speaker 1: one thing that I felt like I was able to 1308 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,880 Speaker 1: keep up with. And I've heard so many times in 1309 01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:21,120 Speaker 1: relationships and marriages men say we don't have sex anymore. Yeah, 1310 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 1: I've never I can't relate. I can't relate. I actually 1311 01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:27,400 Speaker 1: had a whole life. I've never maybe except for one, 1312 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,800 Speaker 1: has been a relationship where a man has wanted to 1313 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,520 Speaker 1: have sex more than me. I want to have sex 1314 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,880 Speaker 1: ten times today, same and can go ten times and 1315 01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 1: if we can, we're going. Yeah, Like I have a 1316 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,400 Speaker 1: very high liby though, so that's not my problem. But 1317 01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,240 Speaker 1: that maybe for the man that like you meet, it's 1318 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,760 Speaker 1: really important to him that you remember dates I don't know, 1319 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,720 Speaker 1: and you're naturally let's say good at dates. You're going 1320 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 1: to stand out for him. Yeah, that's just a match. 1321 01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,960 Speaker 1: But you can't manufacture a match, and you don't want 1322 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,240 Speaker 1: to manufacture a match. 1323 01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,480 Speaker 2: And you don't want to manufacture yourself to be something 1324 01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,880 Speaker 2: for somebody that is you're not always. 1325 01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,240 Speaker 1: Like yeah because he has money. Like, at the end 1326 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 1: of the day, somebody could have money, but if you 1327 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,560 Speaker 1: are miserable with them, there is no value in that money. Listen, 1328 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,720 Speaker 1: there really is it you If you wake up every day, 1329 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,520 Speaker 1: if you wake up every day and like you're just 1330 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,560 Speaker 1: unhappy to be there, that money in that fucking mansion 1331 01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,680 Speaker 1: and that panenthouse isn't gonna mean that what then what 1332 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,480 Speaker 1: ends up happening is you end up beating a man 1333 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 1: who is good, who is genuine, who is sincere heat 1334 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:27,240 Speaker 1: a poor boy. Sorry, no, no, no, My last relationship 1335 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,080 Speaker 1: that happened. The person I fell in love with had 1336 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,560 Speaker 1: way less than him and me, Right, But then I 1337 01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:36,160 Speaker 1: would be away on these great trips and just live 1338 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,080 Speaker 1: in a great life. And I'm like, ooh, but like 1339 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,520 Speaker 1: I hate the person I'm sitting across from. Yeah, And 1340 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,840 Speaker 1: I think that being able to like see that up 1341 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,240 Speaker 1: the mirror in my face, like really has taught me 1342 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 1: a lot about what I'm looking for now. No, I 1343 01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:53,080 Speaker 1: can't date someone broke, but I definitely less. Yeah, I 1344 01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,560 Speaker 1: think that's fine. Like, I think a man can be 1345 01:04:55,600 --> 01:05:00,000 Speaker 1: a provider and not be a trillionaire. Like I don't 1346 01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,520 Speaker 1: think a provider and wealthy are necessarily the same thing, 1347 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 1: because now there's a lot of wealthy men who are 1348 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,560 Speaker 1: fucking stingy ast shit, ye'll give you no money. And 1349 01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of men who are good men who 1350 01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 1: make like whatever average is in your book of money, 1351 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,560 Speaker 1: and they provide for you, they show up for you, 1352 01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:19,240 Speaker 1: they buy you on trips. I'll be honest, I have 1353 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,600 Speaker 1: every fucking bag I want I've ever fucking I mean, 1354 01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,240 Speaker 1: I think that's a very fine standard to have. You 1355 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,760 Speaker 1: just want some food or some trips, bro the mom 1356 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,960 Speaker 1: give you that. The more money I've made, the less 1357 01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,520 Speaker 1: I've like want them material even like watches. I agree 1358 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,760 Speaker 1: buying myself watches, don't fucking wear them. I thought Rolexes 1359 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,520 Speaker 1: were gonna be my standard. Now I don't even put 1360 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,760 Speaker 1: them on it when I'm walking down the street. It's 1361 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,600 Speaker 1: all these little things that I thought would make me 1362 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:48,640 Speaker 1: more attractive just to the world when I started making money, 1363 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,960 Speaker 1: and now it's I've totally regressed. It's the weirdest thing. 1364 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,440 Speaker 1: The only thing I will motherfucking do every time is 1365 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,080 Speaker 1: laid out flat and I need to post. Literally just 1366 01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,200 Speaker 1: did that from from Dubai and I literally spoke to 1367 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,000 Speaker 1: my friend when we were walking to the lounge about it. 1368 01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,640 Speaker 1: I was like to know that I just could. I said, 1369 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 1: I want to bed. I want to be able to 1370 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,360 Speaker 1: lay down during this fucking seven hour flight to Amsterdam. 1371 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just bought it. I was like, wow, 1372 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,160 Speaker 2: like the idea that this at one point only would 1373 01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,560 Speaker 2: have seemed possible with a man with money. I know 1374 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,560 Speaker 2: now my mindset is, so what do I need these niggas? 1375 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,520 Speaker 2: Bro I'm gonna be honest with you even when I'm crazy. 1376 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 2: If I'm taking myself African trip this year, if you 1377 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,240 Speaker 2: need to be in the back up's fine, but I 1378 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,000 Speaker 2: will in a fly like, wait, why are you shaking 1379 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:31,439 Speaker 2: your hand? 1380 01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:35,600 Speaker 1: Well, we have both being economy. I don't know make 1381 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,280 Speaker 1: economy money. The other one does that he has to sit. 1382 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,960 Speaker 1: He can't upgrade himself. But no, like that, haes. I 1383 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,760 Speaker 1: think that's the only I think that's the only thing 1384 01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,240 Speaker 1: in my life right now that you know. You're not 1385 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,320 Speaker 1: upgrading your man, you know, upgrading your man with you. 1386 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm spending four thousand and five thousand dollars on these flights. No, 1387 01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,040 Speaker 1: you not upgrading your man. I'm not spending that much 1388 01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:59,200 Speaker 1: on a man. No, no, I'm not. Okay, So, but 1389 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,560 Speaker 1: so here's my QUI you're not and only because I 1390 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:02,680 Speaker 1: like to do the devil's advocate. 1391 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,720 Speaker 2: Okay, you're with a rich man. He flies first class, 1392 01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,520 Speaker 2: puts you on economy. You're going on the trip with 1393 01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:08,440 Speaker 2: him flying economy. 1394 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:13,040 Speaker 1: I don't have to do the chivalry he does. He does. 1395 01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,640 Speaker 1: But I have a question. You're in first class. He 1396 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,440 Speaker 1: just rode seven hours in the economy. How do you 1397 01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:23,040 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna give him? She said on a girl, 1398 01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:27,640 Speaker 1: actually only one girl. Mage I was flying from Bogata 1399 01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,560 Speaker 1: to New York, right, okay, And there was only one left, 1400 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,080 Speaker 1: one seed left, and we wanted to get out for 1401 01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:34,600 Speaker 1: the next day and my ex was like fuck. 1402 01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:36,680 Speaker 2: We were like, should we split it? And he was 1403 01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,000 Speaker 2: like yeah, and we actually did. It was six hours 1404 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,080 Speaker 2: we did three and three. Oh see, I didn't saying 1405 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,840 Speaker 2: the same thing happened with me. My ex literally from Bogata. 1406 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 2: I got the first class. He was comfort and I 1407 01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:48,960 Speaker 2: allow I was too nice to that. Nigga allowed him 1408 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:50,640 Speaker 2: to sit first class because he's six seven. I'm five 1409 01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:50,920 Speaker 2: to one. 1410 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm sleeping the whole time. Yeah, sit up in first class. Yeah, 1411 01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,440 Speaker 1: never again. Nope, he was undeserving. I will never do 1412 01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,240 Speaker 1: that again. I'm first class. You go sit in coming. 1413 01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,000 Speaker 1: This is not Yeah. This has happened multiple times in 1414 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,280 Speaker 1: I only did this were laid down otherwise. I don't care. 1415 01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,800 Speaker 1: I was upset. This has happened in my relationship, and 1416 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm always going to be in first class. You can 1417 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,920 Speaker 1: sit in the back even though you paid for it. 1418 01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 1: This is like when a man lets me sit down 1419 01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,200 Speaker 1: when there's a seat avail about the bar. I swear 1420 01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,479 Speaker 1: to God, it's the same concept to me. Yes, it is. 1421 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:20,559 Speaker 1: Wait what I have never had a nigga let me 1422 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:25,320 Speaker 1: sit up anytime a bar? Yeah, like no, I'm getting 1423 01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:29,680 Speaker 1: seated first last week. Bro? You doesn't agree? Oh right? 1424 01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:34,280 Speaker 2: Well well real quick, Well, this entire conversation us clearly 1425 01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:36,000 Speaker 2: talking about dynamics of relationships. 1426 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:36,920 Speaker 1: Tell you not in your head a lot. 1427 01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,600 Speaker 2: You nodded your head, you agreed, you disagree, some, you 1428 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:43,000 Speaker 2: laughed at something. Well, what would be your overall consensus 1429 01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,840 Speaker 2: with our views of dating and how we're showing up 1430 01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,160 Speaker 2: and what we expect from men based on just this 1431 01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:49,879 Speaker 2: hour and change of conversation? 1432 01:08:51,200 --> 01:09:01,559 Speaker 1: That was crazy everything? I think everything right now? Wait? 1433 01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,519 Speaker 1: Oh so you want your girl to go to the bag? No, 1434 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:13,200 Speaker 1: he want to be in the back. Yeah, let's be together. Okay, 1435 01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:19,080 Speaker 1: well you know what, why is struggling wife quality? Because 1436 01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:27,519 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like that. That was tall. I'm six 1437 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,839 Speaker 1: feet tall. It's hard back there, and I have bad knees. 1438 01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:34,320 Speaker 1: So your man is gonna be even taller. That's his bad. Okay. See, 1439 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this. This is to me the same thing. 1440 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,559 Speaker 1: If I'm dating a man that maybe doesn't wear designer 1441 01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:44,000 Speaker 1: like I'm wearing, You're gonna buy him shirt? No, I 1442 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,680 Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie I didn't do that with my what 1443 01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,000 Speaker 1: is available bag? Yeah, and you're gonna find it. So 1444 01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,920 Speaker 1: my point is, if I'm treating myself, you're not gonna 1445 01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:56,200 Speaker 1: feel weird at an event where you're like, you're decked 1446 01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:01,080 Speaker 1: out and and he looks I'll be in today's age. 1447 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,519 Speaker 1: I think fla ship can Gosha could go without being labeled. No, 1448 01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,240 Speaker 1: I agree. Are you gonna let's say he doesn't have fashion? Tim, 1449 01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:12,759 Speaker 1: will you help? Don't? You got to be able to leave, Honestly, 1450 01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:14,200 Speaker 1: you got to be able to put that ship on. Bro. 1451 01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,320 Speaker 1: I don't think i'd be in that place where I 1452 01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,439 Speaker 1: be there. But I've also dated very wealthy then that 1453 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:25,599 Speaker 1: can't dress precisely. Wealth is not so that labels I 1454 01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:30,160 Speaker 1: have been DATCHI lying, disgusting, philly and versachi, awful and 1455 01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:34,840 Speaker 1: grandy or I'll say that might be something on part 1456 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,439 Speaker 1: with you. And it's what taught me that I could 1457 01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:40,600 Speaker 1: date a man that has a little less so just 1458 01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:44,200 Speaker 1: talking about clothes, right, A friend of mine shout out 1459 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:48,080 Speaker 1: to Maurice. He said, I have to date a woman 1460 01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,280 Speaker 1: that has my same taste level. And I keep talking 1461 01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,160 Speaker 1: about this on every podcast and I couldn't believe how 1462 01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,360 Speaker 1: true it was. He said, maybe she's not making as 1463 01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,479 Speaker 1: much as me, and I think he's it. Okay, I 1464 01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,240 Speaker 1: go to Japan, you've never been. That's cool. But you're like, oh, 1465 01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,519 Speaker 1: did you go to this neighborhood? Did you see the herd? Yeah? 1466 01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,360 Speaker 1: I heard there's a really fast train. That means our 1467 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,920 Speaker 1: taste levels matter for sure. So I think when I've 1468 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,280 Speaker 1: dated men that have less like it happened to me 1469 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:11,880 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. I was getting dressed and he 1470 01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,200 Speaker 1: was like, Yo, are those rick rick owing pants? And 1471 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,000 Speaker 1: I was like, no, but they look like He was like, damn, 1472 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:18,640 Speaker 1: they got the same swag. Look at you with the 1473 01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:20,960 Speaker 1: dupe now we laughing about shit. I'm like, oh, so 1474 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,120 Speaker 1: you get it. It doesn't matter if you're wearing three 1475 01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:26,000 Speaker 1: thousand dollars pants, you're getting it because those Dara's gonna 1476 01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:34,479 Speaker 1: hit niggle. Nobody will shame me out of Sarah Everara. 1477 01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,600 Speaker 1: But anyway, so, the taste level when it comes to food, hotel, 1478 01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:42,639 Speaker 1: stays all of it. Bro if he can't afford certain things. 1479 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,639 Speaker 1: Even when I was broke, I was figuring out how 1480 01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,519 Speaker 1: to do X y Z, and I believe that is taste. 1481 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,120 Speaker 1: I agree. I was if I could do it in 1482 01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,519 Speaker 1: law school off financial aid, you could do it with 1483 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,320 Speaker 1: your regular paying job. I was making well. I'm in school, 1484 01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,439 Speaker 1: so I have what like a thousand dollars a month, 1485 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,240 Speaker 1: but I'm going on trips and I'm looking good, and 1486 01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:04,920 Speaker 1: I still figure out a way to get on a 1487 01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,519 Speaker 1: boat situation. I'm telling you that you can figure it out. 1488 01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,360 Speaker 1: People just don't want to put in an effort, or 1489 01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:13,080 Speaker 1: they're not as resourceful, or maybe I'm not resourceful. That's it. People. 1490 01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:16,920 Speaker 1: People don't know how to I just keep saying, finesse like, 1491 01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,479 Speaker 1: you gotta know how to finess life. You gotta know 1492 01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,320 Speaker 1: how to like, you gotta know how to move, You 1493 01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:25,360 Speaker 1: gotta know how to you know, get get get Get 1494 01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,519 Speaker 1: on a fucking group on. There's some good shit on 1495 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,920 Speaker 1: group on. Figure out if you don't have money, I'm saying, 1496 01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,800 Speaker 1: figure out a way to get get get it via 1497 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,479 Speaker 1: group of be the men that take me to pay 1498 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,280 Speaker 1: as you wish day at the galleries. I don't give 1499 01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,280 Speaker 1: a fuck. I see that you know what I like. 1500 01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,400 Speaker 1: You like what you're doing Tuesday night. Oh you look nigga, 1501 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,840 Speaker 1: and you know you can pay a dollars instead of thirty. 1502 01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,439 Speaker 1: That's fine. At least be in there. I don't give 1503 01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,200 Speaker 1: a fuck. But that to me is like you get it, Yeah, 1504 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,920 Speaker 1: that is what I want. I think making a little 1505 01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:54,760 Speaker 1: less than you is I is fine. I dated a 1506 01:12:54,800 --> 01:13:00,400 Speaker 1: man who made like, very very very low amount. What's that? 1507 01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:06,240 Speaker 1: Just curious? I mean, oh, go ahead, go ahead and 1508 01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:10,400 Speaker 1: get you. That's a very low amount sr No, no, no, 1509 01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,599 Speaker 1: it was like one twenty and that was low okay 1510 01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,160 Speaker 1: for New York. Absolutely, I can understood that that way. 1511 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,120 Speaker 1: It was one twenty. It was it was just too 1512 01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:21,680 Speaker 1: low for me. But I was paying for everything. I 1513 01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,800 Speaker 1: just felt bad at that point. I'm not gonna hold you. 1514 01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,120 Speaker 1: That was my life. I paid for everything like I 1515 01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,840 Speaker 1: didn't for I paid for a lot like I didn't 1516 01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,920 Speaker 1: like that I like to eat and nice places. I 1517 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:32,680 Speaker 1: didn't like that I would go to. I would want 1518 01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:36,759 Speaker 1: to go to a roll. This was literally like, babe, 1519 01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,240 Speaker 1: that's expensive. I don't want to just get into God, 1520 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:41,600 Speaker 1: I got it. I got it so that I'm not 1521 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,160 Speaker 1: allowed to sit here and argue with you. I just 1522 01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:44,360 Speaker 1: I'm craving this possible. 1523 01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,640 Speaker 2: And that's where that's where I realized taste matters, but 1524 01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:48,880 Speaker 2: also with restaurants. 1525 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,080 Speaker 1: He literally almost to me. 1526 01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:52,960 Speaker 2: I felt like I was duped out of being able 1527 01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,280 Speaker 2: to enjoy the things I liked because he said, why 1528 01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:56,280 Speaker 2: would you spend that much. 1529 01:13:56,160 --> 01:14:02,520 Speaker 1: On a meal? Like, literally, I like everything here, experience. 1530 01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:06,760 Speaker 1: I agree this, and the ballet guy, especially in LA, 1531 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,639 Speaker 1: doesn't take my ship. I why don't want? Yeah, well 1532 01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,160 Speaker 1: I started. I started secretly going to restaurants for myself. 1533 01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,360 Speaker 1: Myself same in my relationship because I was like, I 1534 01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:18,760 Speaker 1: can't pay for you all the time, and also I 1535 01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,840 Speaker 1: don't want to deprive myself of this of what I 1536 01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,120 Speaker 1: like to do. Yeah, but you know, for me, I 1537 01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:25,880 Speaker 1: at least need once a week and it doesn't have 1538 01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,160 Speaker 1: to be the Michelin or whatever, but like once a 1539 01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:32,320 Speaker 1: week of effort. I was dating and effort Like I 1540 01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:33,800 Speaker 1: was adating a guy in LA that took me to 1541 01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:37,680 Speaker 1: this like hidden restaurant in the middle of Rodeo and 1542 01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,559 Speaker 1: it was hella cute, like I loved it, and I 1543 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,880 Speaker 1: thought like, oh, you're trying, like you got me the 1544 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,559 Speaker 1: instagrammable spot. I mean, let me let me say something. 1545 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,840 Speaker 1: Though dates are expensive, we talk about Michelin, A regular date. 1546 01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:54,719 Speaker 1: A regular date is oh a date. Yeah, the meals. 1547 01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,120 Speaker 1: I just hated Omar's kitchen. Shout out, y'all should go 1548 01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:58,479 Speaker 1: eat it. To the Lower east Side. I know a 1549 01:14:58,479 --> 01:14:59,920 Speaker 1: lot of you guys went to Cadence. They told me 1550 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:01,280 Speaker 1: went in there and didn't know it was vegan. 1551 01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,200 Speaker 2: They told you that girl felt so bad. I looked 1552 01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:07,880 Speaker 2: at that menu and I was like, and there were fans. 1553 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,160 Speaker 2: They brought food out from the kitchen. I didn't tell 1554 01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:12,439 Speaker 2: my friend, don't finish at all. It's good, but we 1555 01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:17,320 Speaker 2: don't want to eat the rest. It's vegan, but I don't. 1556 01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,479 Speaker 2: We only left because they also no liquor. I said, 1557 01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,200 Speaker 2: no liquor and vegan, I said, bitch. 1558 01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,160 Speaker 1: Now no, they got cocktails. Oh you didn't look at 1559 01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:28,200 Speaker 1: the Nope, there's wine and beer. Wine and beer is 1560 01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:32,519 Speaker 1: not a cocktail to me. Oh they made wine. That's 1561 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,840 Speaker 1: not a cocktail. Oh anyway, Oh Mar's kitchen, they do 1562 01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:36,960 Speaker 1: have liquor. It's in the Lower east Side. Jamake a restaurant. 1563 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,000 Speaker 1: We ate. I think it was one hundred and fifty 1564 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,000 Speaker 1: five dollars. This Jamaican food. This is what I mean. 1565 01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,080 Speaker 1: I don't this is not a problem. Those are his 1566 01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:46,880 Speaker 1: prices and the food is great. And it's a it's 1567 01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,559 Speaker 1: a vibe, that's a date night. But literally I remember thinking, 1568 01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,519 Speaker 1: like when you think about going to like, I don't know, 1569 01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:54,760 Speaker 1: just a Caribbean restaurant, you're not thinking you're spending that much, 1570 01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,240 Speaker 1: but you're out here to have drinks. You're out here 1571 01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:57,719 Speaker 1: in the vibe. 1572 01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,760 Speaker 2: There's music there like this year then I'm going to 1573 01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,360 Speaker 2: find hopefully so, which is what I used to tell 1574 01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,240 Speaker 2: my friend all the time. Bro, you can't expect a 1575 01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,840 Speaker 2: man to take you for dinner and hookah three times 1576 01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:09,160 Speaker 2: a week. 1577 01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,360 Speaker 1: That's a thousand dollars a week. That's literally like fifteen 1578 01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,719 Speaker 1: hundred dollars. And on top of that, you want flowers, 1579 01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:16,720 Speaker 1: and on top of it, like sometimes you might want 1580 01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:18,920 Speaker 1: him to talk for your uber home. Sometimes I do 1581 01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:21,920 Speaker 1: feel for how hard it is for a man to date, 1582 01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:24,519 Speaker 1: especially if they want to date multiple women. I don't 1583 01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:28,280 Speaker 1: even know how the hell because honestly, they need to 1584 01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:31,040 Speaker 1: set up a financial course because they're really doing it 1585 01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,679 Speaker 1: out here. Like how you how you dating five women? 1586 01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,840 Speaker 1: Make no money and you but they're not. That's why 1587 01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,839 Speaker 1: they're inviting them to Netflix and chill. Now. I cannot 1588 01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:43,160 Speaker 1: date a dude that's dating too many people because it'll 1589 01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:44,920 Speaker 1: take away what he did for you. It really is, 1590 01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:49,439 Speaker 1: you're still on my resources I want to do and 1591 01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,320 Speaker 1: you can't. Is it because you just took this with Jeb? 1592 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,080 Speaker 1: But but think about it, Okay. A man who's spending 1593 01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:59,599 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred dollars a week on his girl on dates 1594 01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:04,800 Speaker 1: multiple multiply that by four. Right, y'all got it? Dating 1595 01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,160 Speaker 1: is a rich man sport. Yeah, and then add rent 1596 01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,400 Speaker 1: and add and add car and add this, and there's 1597 01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,840 Speaker 1: no way he would be able to do all that 1598 01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:17,240 Speaker 1: making less than what like a couple of milks. Hmmm. 1599 01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:19,559 Speaker 1: I want to end this because I'm pissed. 1600 01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sorry, y'all thought y'all would come here for 1601 01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,439 Speaker 2: dating advice. We just let you know it's rough out here, y'all. 1602 01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:30,040 Speaker 1: Dating is ghetto. The advice is just fuck him. I 1603 01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:34,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't recommend just fucking them, my eyes. My advice is 1604 01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:38,680 Speaker 1: just get get your ship, get your money, you know, 1605 01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,960 Speaker 1: pouring to yourself, make sure you're good and hopefully the 1606 01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,799 Speaker 1: right one comes and if not, you're still laying flat 1607 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,800 Speaker 1: on your way to Singapore. Bitch, I know that's right, 1608 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Listen that thing about us 1609 01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:56,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna lay flat without you thought, that's so crazy. 1610 01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,439 Speaker 1: So that I was flying back from Harris and I 1611 01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:00,880 Speaker 1: was in the pot you know what has the doors? 1612 01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,760 Speaker 1: The doors oh or the D and D bitchmar coming 1613 01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,920 Speaker 1: back had a massage, but oh yeah, the Delta. It 1614 01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,880 Speaker 1: was klm oh and it was ken you sitting in there. 1615 01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:13,080 Speaker 1: And I was literally reading a book called Rich and 1616 01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,320 Speaker 1: Pretty period. This nigga wasn't texting me back, and I 1617 01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:19,680 Speaker 1: was like, I'm literally one hundred and eighty degrees right now. 1618 01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:23,719 Speaker 1: I just have a fucking duck. Do I give a fuck? No? Nope, No, 1619 01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,720 Speaker 1: I can't give a fuck. I also, whenever I used 1620 01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,880 Speaker 1: to date a certain man, I'd be like, if four 1621 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,240 Speaker 1: or five million dollars were added to my account right now, 1622 01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:34,920 Speaker 1: would I give a fuck? And the answer has always 1623 01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:37,599 Speaker 1: been no. And then I realized that that means I'm 1624 01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:41,280 Speaker 1: only sad because I don't make enough. And if I 1625 01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:43,680 Speaker 1: were to let me go, yeah, let me just make 1626 01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,719 Speaker 1: more money, I might be sad and rich. 1627 01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:51,200 Speaker 2: Better than horror conversations, the modern day woman is going 1628 01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:51,800 Speaker 2: to get our. 1629 01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,479 Speaker 1: But also, let's just keep in mind this is talking 1630 01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:00,600 Speaker 1: about being rich alone. Yeah, and I think that is 1631 01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,320 Speaker 1: the most powerful thing because I've been watching so much 1632 01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,600 Speaker 1: content and hearing so much bullshit over the years of 1633 01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:09,760 Speaker 1: women talking about being sad with a man's money. No, 1634 01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying you need to get your money. No, I 1635 01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,280 Speaker 1: know what you're saying, right, but this isn't a conversation 1636 01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,920 Speaker 1: that I've been hearing. It's always about Oh, if he 1637 01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:18,280 Speaker 1: gets you x y Z, well, at least you got 1638 01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,600 Speaker 1: this bruh. You can literally get that ship yourself. The 1639 01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:25,120 Speaker 1: way you're just fro my gets hard when I fucking 1640 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:27,519 Speaker 1: do shit for myself. My life is so peaceful right now, 1641 01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:30,720 Speaker 1: y'all be like key glowing because I ain't worried about 1642 01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,880 Speaker 1: no niggles. Where can people find you so hard? Tell 1643 01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:37,240 Speaker 1: them what I'm on Tiktoki talks with so harr and 1644 01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:41,320 Speaker 1: then my Instagram sharm and that will be in the 1645 01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,679 Speaker 1: description of this episode. Y'all. Y'all want to hear more 1646 01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:46,960 Speaker 1: from Horrible Decisions, make sure you join us on Patreon. 1647 01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:52,200 Speaker 1: That's patreon dot com backslash Horrible Decisions. Sorry, thank you 1648 01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,400 Speaker 1: for joining us here. We're gonna have to do dinner 1649 01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:58,479 Speaker 1: and catch up, yes, but yeah, y'all, make sure y'all 1650 01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,240 Speaker 1: check us out, and this has been yet another episode 1651 01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,080 Speaker 1: of horrible decisions like