1 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece. 2 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: Just think about it with me for a moment, and 3 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: I don't like to let my mind go there. But 4 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: for the purposes of analyzing this case, I am. 5 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 3: You put all. 6 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: Your love, all your dreams, all your energy, all your time, 7 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: all your money into your children. You try to push 8 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 2: them in every way that you can. You help them 9 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: on their merit badges, on their math test, make them 10 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: eat vegetables, and this goes on year after year after 11 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: you you finally get them to college. You know where 12 00:00:53,120 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: I'm going with this, right. A gorgeous co ed shot 13 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: at a college senior was sitting in her car eating 14 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: fries when she is shot ten times. Killer on the loose, 15 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: I Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for 16 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: being with us here at Fox Nation. In Sirius XM 17 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: one eleven who murdered Ali take a listen to this. 18 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 4: Fear, sadness and anger. 19 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 5: After an apparent random act of violence, an LSU student 20 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 5: shot dead on Government Street in downtown East in Baton Rouge. 21 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 5: She was shrewd by a passing train when someone opened 22 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 5: fire in the middle of the night. Ali Rice was 23 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 5: shot multiple times and died in the front seat. 24 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 6: Of her car. 25 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 5: Police aren't sure right now who did it. There's no 26 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 5: sign anything was stolen. Police have been working the streets 27 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 5: all day, canvassing that area. 28 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 3: We have talked to businesses. 29 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 5: Along Government Street who say they have turned over surveillance 30 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 5: video to detectives. 31 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 7: Twenty one year old Alison Rice was found shot to 32 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 7: death inside of her car in downtown Baton Rouge, and 33 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 7: her murder happening just three miles away. 34 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 3: From LSU, where she attended. 35 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 7: The twenty one year old was returning from an arcade 36 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 7: Friday morning when she was shot to death multiple times 37 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 7: inside her car. The gunman and their motive both remain 38 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 7: a mystery. 39 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 2: You are hearing our friends at wb RZ and News Nation, 40 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: But now take a listen again to Katie Eastern. 41 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 8: Twenty one year old Alison Rice, who went by Ali, 42 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 8: was found shot to death in her car. She was 43 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 8: a senior at LSU studying marketing and attended Dutchtown High School, 44 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 8: where she was a cheerleader. I know like a loud 45 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 8: how found People who live in the area heard the 46 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 8: gunfire but didn't see anything. Sources say they believe Rice 47 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 8: was turning around at the tracks as a train came by. 48 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 8: That's when someone shot her multiple times through her windshield. 49 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 9: I heard the training, but I didn't. 50 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 4: I ain't paid a mind to trail panther a gunbat 51 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 4: no fire. 52 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: A senior at LSU studying marketing, cheerleader at Dutchtown High, 53 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: minding her own business in her own car, probably with 54 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: the doors locked, eating French fries, and now she's dead. Now, 55 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: how do you tell that to Allie's parents? With me 56 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: and all Star panel to make sense of what we 57 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:35,839 Speaker 2: know right now? But speaking of telling Ali's parents, who 58 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: gets that job? Who was sent early early in the 59 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: morning to Ali's parents front. 60 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: Door and. 61 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: To give them the news their girl is dead? Take 62 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: a listen to Ali's dad speaking with our friend Martha McCowan. 63 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 10: We received a ring on the doorbell at four five am. 64 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 10: We woke up to our dog bark and in the 65 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 10: doorbell ringing. You know, cops have showed up in the 66 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 10: middle of the night before for various reasons, you know, 67 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 10: things going on in the neighborhood and all. But when 68 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 10: they asked, are you Allison's father? Can we come in please? Yeah, 69 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 10: you knew at that point that it was going to 70 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 10: be something terrible. It should not have happened. 71 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: It should not have happened. She's a beautiful child. 72 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 10: She had one year left to graduate LSU, She had 73 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 10: her whole future ahead of her. 74 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 11: Just so devastating there. The investigators say that prior to 75 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 11: this shooting, Rice had been with friends at a business 76 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 11: in mid City. It's unclear what happened between the time 77 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 11: that she left and when she was gunned down. 78 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: Let's go straight out to Chris and Nakameda report. Let's 79 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: just start at the very beginning. We got a lot 80 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: to get through. Chris, tell me what happened when Allie 81 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: was shot. 82 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 6: This murder has really rocked this community to the core. 83 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 6: This is the type of street where murders don't happen. 84 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 6: She was leaving an arcade, had stopped at a railroad 85 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 6: track literally a stone's throw from downtown Baton Rouge, and 86 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 6: you literally there's a train that's coming by, and from 87 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 6: what police have told us, gunman approaches and just opens 88 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 6: fire on her car. 89 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: Okay, wait a minute, you just told me something I 90 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: didn't know, Chris Nakamoto. You said a gunman approached her car. 91 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: So this is not a case of wrong place, wrong time. 92 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: They saw who they were shooting. Did the government actually 93 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: approach her car? 94 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 6: Sources are saying that a gunman or gunman arrived on 95 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 6: foot and shot through her window, killing her. 96 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: I just. 97 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 2: This girl, a marketing major, cheerleader, scrubbed in Sunshine, gunned 98 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: down by unknown assailants as she's in her car trying 99 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: to turn around the car to train track and munch 100 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: it on fries. 101 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 3: It's not computing to me and something else, you said. 102 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: Chris Knakimoto, And I'm not going to kill the messenger, 103 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: but mona Qua joining me high profile private investigator with 104 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: Monique Investigations out of Omaha on Twitter at mona k 105 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: did you hear Chris Knakamoto say this is a neighborhood 106 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 2: where people don't get shot, right, He's right, He's right. Statistically, 107 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: there's not a lot of shootings there. But the reality 108 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 2: is crime invades every neighborhood. I mean, you're beating the 109 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: street every single day on your cases as a PI 110 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 2: private investigator, and I bet you investigate all over every 111 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: area of town. 112 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 12: Yes, no, yes, that's true, in areas that most people 113 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 12: wouldn't assume that there's a lot of crime. I see 114 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 12: it all the time. And also there was a witness. 115 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 8: It was parts on the. 116 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 9: Other side of the railroad tracks. 117 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 12: The witness two men pass his car, go between the 118 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 12: train boxes and approach Ali's car. 119 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 3: Okay, you know what you're giving me a flashback? 120 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: I've read every single I Gata Christie and that has 121 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: been written. 122 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: And you know, they do the books. 123 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: And the movie might be named something else, and then 124 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: the book might be re released years later under a 125 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: different name. But I read it as what missus McGillicutty saw, 126 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: and it's between trains. 127 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: Her train went that way, and she saw a murder 128 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: when the train went that way, and it's very hard 129 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 3: to see. 130 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: But what you're you know what you're telling me, you 131 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: can see as the train goes by through the train cars. 132 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 3: Wow, tell me about that, Chris Knakomoto. 133 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 6: We know that when police arrived on the scene after 134 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 6: you know, the shooting happened, that they processed the scene 135 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 6: for hours. They have been their tight lipped about what 136 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 6: type of evidence they collected at the scene, but my 137 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 6: sources are saying that there was a number of pieces 138 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 6: of evidence that were collected and are being tested. Hopefully. 139 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 6: Our crime lab here in Louisiana that operates under the 140 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 6: umbrella of Louisiana State Police can get a rush on 141 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 6: some of that to see if they can get a 142 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 6: return to hopefully try to connect the dots to see 143 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 6: if there's any sort of DNA matches we do know. 144 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 6: The District Attorney announced that the FEDS have also joined 145 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 6: in the investigation, the DEA, ATF, and the FBI in 146 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 6: hopes of trying to all put their minds together to 147 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 6: solve who committed this heinous murder. 148 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: Well, let's go to the other experts joining us. 149 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:46,359 Speaker 2: I've introduced Chris nakamotoed mona Quay from Monachay Private Investigations 150 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: in Omaha. But I want to go now to a 151 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: longtime friend and colleague, doctor Michelle Dupray, forensic pathologists, medical examiner, 152 00:08:55,320 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: detective and author of Homicide Investigation Field Guide, Doctor dupre 153 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about what Chris Nakamoto 154 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: just said. He said they took hours to process the 155 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: scene hours. You know what makes a scene like this 156 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: even more difficult is that it's out doors. I've processed 157 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: scenes with crime investigators outdoors before. I'm just what comes 158 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: to mind is a playground and housing project. The whole 159 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: thing was covered with broken glass, used condoms, hypodermic needles, 160 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: little glassing bags, and we were looking for a shellcasing 161 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: and we found one. But long story short, doctor Dupree, 162 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: the pitfalls of an outdoor crime scene explained. 163 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 9: NaNs, there are so many I mean, first of all, 164 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 9: there is so much other information. There's so much other debris. 165 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 9: You're not sure what is relevant and what isn't, and 166 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 9: so you can't take the chance that you're going to 167 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 9: miss something. So you end up picking up a lot 168 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 9: more evidence sometimes than you're really going to be able 169 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 9: to use or that's pertinent to the case. In addition, 170 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 9: you have the weather to worry about, you have all 171 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 9: sorts of other again, debris, whether it's foreign DNA or 172 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 9: whether it's other people's fingerprints or tire prints or whatever 173 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 9: it might be. There is oftentimes just so much to 174 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 9: sift through and know what's really important and what to take. 175 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: And thinking about DNA and fingerprints. If they shot through 176 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 2: the window, doctor Dupre, unless they touched the car, which 177 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 2: maybe they did, I mean, Chris Nakamoto, how close do 178 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 2: they get to the car? 179 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 6: See those are questions that police have not answered, but 180 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 6: we do know they fired on her car. At least 181 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 6: ten times. 182 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: Good Lauren in Heaven, Hold on, hold on, doctor Duprix, 183 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 2: put let this percolate for a moment. I want to 184 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: talk about how prints can be found on shell casings, casings? 185 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 2: Can they be found on bullets? If they got close 186 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: enough to the car, if they touched the car? How 187 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: you process that scene? But Doctor Angie Arnold, percolate on that, 188 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: Doctor Duprie, Doctor Angela Arnold joining me, renowned psychiatrists joining 189 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: us out of the Atlanta jurisdiction. You can find her 190 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: at Angela Arnold MD dot com. Doctor Angie ten rounds 191 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: or more? What is that telling you? Look, this is 192 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: not some jilted boyfriend. Didn't you say there was more 193 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: than one a sale at Chris Or did you say that? 194 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 6: We heard from our sources that there was possibly one 195 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 6: or two people that approached the vehicle. Police have been 196 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 6: very tight lipped about what they've released so far. 197 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: I understand they don't want to get too much information 198 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: out there that could somehow harm the integrity of the investigation. 199 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 3: Okay, still we know ten rounds Chris? 200 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 6: Do we know that that is what our sources are saying? 201 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: At least ten Doctor Angie, this is just a girl. 202 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 2: She's a college student. She's been at an arcade with 203 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 2: her other girlfriends. She's eating fries. How many times, Angie, 204 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: have you sat at the red light with some fries 205 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: or I don't know, in your case, maybe some pote 206 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, but and minding your own business and 207 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: then out of the blue. 208 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 4: Yes, every day, Nancy. We do it every day, don't we. 209 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 4: Driving down Peach Tree, it sounds like it was an execution. 210 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 4: I wonder if they even knew who they were shooting. 211 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: I'm just telling you this girl is too young to 212 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 2: be the victim of an orchestrated execution. 213 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: What more do we know? 214 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: Take a listen now to our friends at ABC thirteen Houston. 215 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 13: There is an urgent manhut in Louisiana for an LSU 216 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 13: students killer. 217 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 11: Police are now coming through evidence to try to find 218 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 11: out who shot it and killed twenty one year old 219 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 11: Alice Rice in Baton Rouge last Friday. Rice that stopped 220 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 11: for a train crossing and was approached by someone who's 221 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 11: simply opened fire at least a dozen times. They're into 222 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 11: her windshield, glass and other markings suggest she was trying 223 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 11: to turn around when she died. 224 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 3: There are still no leads. 225 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 14: In this case. 226 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace. 227 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 2: Wendy Patrick joining me, California prosecutor, author of Red Flags 228 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: that's on Amazon. You can find her at wendypatrickphd dot com. 229 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 2: She's also the host of Today with Doctor Wendy k 230 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: c BQ, San Diego. 231 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 3: Wendy, thanks for being with us, Wendy. 232 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: I'm just imagining what happened, and I'm wondering if she 233 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: saw these guys or guy coming and she tried to 234 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: turn around, or if she was turning around because it 235 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: was a train track she didn't want to wait on 236 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: the train. She could have gotten a sixth sense because 237 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: this was you know they they played at. They all 238 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: played at this arcade till after midnight. So it's pitch 239 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: dark and she's stuck at a train track. I mean, 240 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: Wendy Patrick, have you ever it's happened to me. I 241 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: remember jogging on a really long road by railroad tracks 242 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: and there was nothing around, and it hit me, you, 243 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: of all people, no better than to do this. I 244 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: just got a feeling and I turned around the road 245 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: to go on the other way, going back toward home, 246 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: and I wonder if she was sitting. 247 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: There and went, what, it's after midnight, I'm. 248 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: Here alone in my car at a train. It's going 249 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: to take forever to get by. 250 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 3: I'm leaving. I'm out of here. I wonder if she 251 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 3: got a six sense that was turning around. What do 252 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 3: you think happened? 253 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: Based on what we know and now we're hearing Chris Nakamoto, 254 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: possibly twelve bullets. 255 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 3: But but go ahead, Wendy. 256 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 13: It seems like situational awareness really kicked in if that's 257 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 13: in fact what she was doing. You know, we're supposed 258 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 13: to have our heads on swibble regardless of where we are, 259 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 13: but especially if it's middle of the night, you're at 260 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 13: an area, even if you're familiar with it. You know, 261 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 13: Chris brought up the great point of well, not in 262 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 13: my backyard. It's a safe community. We don't have murders here. 263 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 13: But you know, if this beautiful young woman lived there, 264 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 13: she probably knew there in fact elements to be dangerous 265 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 13: and the things that she should be aware of. It 266 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 13: sounds like mistaken identity. I also think it sounds like 267 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 13: an execution and assassination. And you wonder whether or not 268 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 13: she heard something that was my first thought that caused 269 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 13: her to look around and make sure she was safe, 270 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 13: and sadly we know what happened and where the end 271 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 13: of that went. 272 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 3: Chris Mikimoto. 273 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: I also learned from some of our sources that she 274 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: was shot through the quote wind screen or a car. 275 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: Are they trying to say the front windshelter. 276 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 6: Yes, that's what we are understanding as well. But the 277 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 6: bullets entered in her abdomen area. From what we're being told. 278 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 6: The district attorney told us the key piece that they're 279 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 6: trying to figure out was was she trying to turn 280 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 6: around when she saw the train and would stop there, 281 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 6: or was she trying to turn around after she saw 282 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 6: the gunman approach? And so they're trying to piece that together. 283 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 6: Obviously they said that there wasn't surveillance video right there. 284 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 6: Just going to ask you that they've come through the 285 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 6: area going to multiple businesses, and I know for a 286 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 6: fact that they are going through some videos in hopes 287 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 6: of trying to piece together what happened. 288 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: To doctor Michelle dide Free joining us a medical pathologist, 289 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: examiner and detective. What do you make of the shots 290 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: coming through the windshield, the front windshield? But she's shot 291 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: in the abdomen that have to be shooting down directly 292 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 2: at her, well. 293 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 9: Nancy, can be a couple of things. Of course, the 294 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 9: shots coming through what we would call an intermediate target 295 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 9: would be the windshield, so it's going to deflect that 296 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 9: bullet in some other direction. It's also going to cause 297 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 9: more damage because the bullet will have expanded hitting that 298 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 9: initial target, and so when it would hit her, unfortunately, 299 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 9: it would be a much more devastating injury. I want 300 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 9: to go to something that you've been talking about. She 301 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 9: may have seen the people coming, so she may have 302 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 9: tried to turn around. This is very It's a very 303 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 9: interesting case because it could be personal because they'd have 304 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 9: to know who, when, and where she was. It could 305 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 9: also be something like a gang initiation, or if it's 306 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,479 Speaker 9: really truly random, this is very scary because those are 307 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 9: the most hard cases to even try to solve when 308 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 9: it truly is random. 309 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 3: Guys, we're learning a little bit more. 310 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 2: This is from Unfiltered with Kiaren and it is a 311 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: quote from an alleged witness. I was bringing my friend 312 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 2: home who lives on Government Street. When we got on Government, 313 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: we came to the train tracks and the train was 314 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: at a complete stop. Not even hate it when the 315 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 2: train doesn't. Not even ten minutes later, two guys walk 316 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: past my car, wearing dark clothes with long sleeves, one 317 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: wearing a red hoodie, the hoodie over his head, mid twenties, 318 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: both of them five ten to five eleven. At this time, 319 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: her vehicle pulled up. This is Allison's Allie silver SUV. 320 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 2: These two guys walk past my vehicle, the train still 321 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 2: at a stop, walking through the cars of the train 322 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: to get across the tracks. Ten minutes went by her gunshots, 323 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 2: multiple gunshots. I could still see her car parked. As 324 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 2: soon as the shots went off, she tried to turn around, 325 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 2: and then she just stopped. I could not tell where 326 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: the shots were coming from, but I knew they were 327 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 2: very close to me. I ended up backing out and leaving. 328 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: That's more of what we know right now, Guys, the 329 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 2: police are issuing a desperate plea for help. 330 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 3: Take a listen to our friends at WDBJ. 331 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 15: Police are pleading with the public if anyone has information 332 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 15: regarding this case, to please come forward. 333 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 14: We're asking for anyone that has any information regarding the 334 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 14: death of the young lady pick up the phone called 335 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 14: Crime stoppers three, four, four, seven, eight sixty seven. 336 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: Back to doctor Michelle Dupree, author of Homicide Investigation Field Guide, 337 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 2: What about the possibility of any kind of prints. 338 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 3: Full or partial, on shells or bullets. 339 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 9: Well, you're not going to find any prints on the 340 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 9: bullets andselves on the shelves. There is a relatively new 341 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 9: technique where it has been possible to find prints on 342 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 9: the shelves, but you have to do it very carefully. 343 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 9: We found that the oils will oftentimes leave they're very small, 344 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 9: etching on the casing of the shell. So it would 345 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 9: be you've got to find their shells and hopefully they would. 346 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 2: And the problem with the bullet if you've ever seen 347 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: a bullet that's already been fired, even if someone did 348 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: touch the bullet, the problem is the bullet becomes deformed 349 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 2: once it hits anything. It's going at such a high velocity, 350 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: it crumples up like a paper. 351 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 3: Cut when it hits. 352 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 2: Not always, but a lot of times, you can't get 353 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 2: a print off of that. To Monique, private investigator joining 354 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: us for Monique Investigations, what do you make of what 355 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: we're learning now? 356 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 12: Well, I think it's interesting that if it was a 357 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 12: random shooting. It passed the first car that the witness 358 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 12: you know described, passed his car, went to her car, 359 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 12: and then he describes, you know, roughly ten minutes of 360 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 12: time went by before he heard gunshots. 361 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: You know, I'm wondering what was going. 362 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 12: On in that amount of time. 363 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: For some reason, Monique, I took the witness to be 364 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: a male. Don't know why. I don't know why, but 365 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 2: I'm wondering if they went up to Ali's car, saw 366 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 2: a lone female and tried to get in the car 367 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: to rapeer or robber, and and she started backing out 368 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: and then they fired on her. 369 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 3: Maybe they were trying to get. 370 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: In her car, right, because that would explain why her 371 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 2: and not the witness. Why do they walk past the 372 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: witnesses car and pick out her car? Guys, I want 373 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 2: you to now take a listen to our friends again. 374 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: At WDBTJA, seven. 375 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 16: Officials with the East bat Rouge Parish Corner's Office are 376 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 16: ruling her death a homicide, saying she died for multiple 377 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 16: gunshot wounds as investigators found her dead inside of her 378 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 16: vehicle near the railroad tracks on Government Street. A suspect 379 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 16: and motive in this one remain unknown. At this time too. 380 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 2: Chris Nakamoto tell me about that rail crossing, you don't 381 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 2: really see a lot of residential homes facing a train track, 382 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: which would mean, if that's true, there's not going to 383 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 2: be any for instance, ring doorbells catching it. 384 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: What's around the train track. 385 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 6: To give you a scene, center, that area has gone 386 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 6: through a huge amount of redevelopment over the last five 387 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 6: to ten years, a huge gentrification or a bunch of 388 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 6: old buildings that were there that have now become you know, restaurants, 389 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 6: and there's a lot of night life in that area. 390 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 6: It's a great place to be to bring your family, 391 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 6: and so for something like this to happen, that is 392 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 6: why this community is really because they don't feel safe 393 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 6: in a situation that they want to take their families. 394 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 6: And then you also have the situation where she's from. 395 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 6: She's from twenty miles from south of Baton Rouge in 396 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 6: an area of Ascension Parish called Geismer, and so you 397 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 6: have that area of the community that's also reeling from 398 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 6: her death. This was a good girl, and Baton Rouge 399 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 6: police told us that they do believe that this was 400 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 6: a random act of violence, which makes things particularly scary 401 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 6: because if this was random, you now have these monsters 402 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 6: that are out on looming in the public that could 403 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 6: do it to somebody else, you know. 404 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 2: Chris Nakamoto, I'm trying to figure out anything about surveillance 405 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 2: video or ring doorbell. There was not a surveillance video 406 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 2: at the crossing itself. I'd also be curious if they 407 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: have recovered her cell phone. I mean, let's just say, 408 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 2: let's hypothesize, let's spin it out to its logical conclusion. 409 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 3: Chris. 410 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: If these two guys, and the witness says there were two, 411 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 2: one in a red hoodie, both in dark clothing, what 412 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 2: if they tried to get in her car. 413 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 3: And she took their picture. 414 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: I mean, does anybody on the panel have you ever 415 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: seen someone speeding or they do something crazy and you 416 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: snap a picture. 417 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 3: Of their license tech. 418 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 2: I do it all the time, or if I say 419 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 2: something unusual, I do. 420 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 13: Yeah, Nancy, just jump in, Wendy, both personally and professionally, 421 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 13: that is a very modern way of documenting crime. You know, 422 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 13: citizens are law enforcements, eyes and ears on the ground, 423 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 13: and that is one of the ways that we contribute 424 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 13: to crime prevention within our own communities. This young woman 425 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 13: I mean that would get right into the type of 426 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 13: a pattern that we might expect, that we might expect 427 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 13: to be savvy enough, especially if it's a safe area, 428 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 13: to see something and then document it in preparation for 429 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 13: saying something. 430 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: We see it all the time, Wendy yep, I want 431 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 2: to get my hands on that cell phone. Hey, Chris 432 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: Knakamoto following up on what Wendy Patrick said, host of 433 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: Today with Doctor Wendy, Chris Nakamoto, is anything taken from 434 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 2: her that. 435 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 3: We know of? 436 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 6: Nothing was taken. Absolutely nothing was taken, which is why 437 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 6: police are so stumped. They don't know whether or not 438 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 6: this was an attempted carjacking, whether it was an attempted robbery, 439 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 6: because nothing was taken from her vehicle. They don't know 440 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 6: if the killers shot her and then got spooked or 441 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 6: couldn't get into her car because a lot of cars 442 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 6: lock when you put the vehicle in drive these days, 443 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 6: and so they don't know if they shot her, tried 444 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 6: to get in and couldn't get in, and then got 445 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 6: spooked and took off running. But nothing was missing. 446 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 3: Looking at a picture of her right now holding a 447 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 3: puppy dog, what a smile. Obviously also invested in braces. 448 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 2: She's got this beautiful million dollar smile, already had an 449 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: internship lined up for when she got out. 450 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 3: Great grades. 451 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 2: The works back to you, Chris Nakamoto, at this location, 452 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: do you think that there were surveillance cameras on the 453 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 2: backs on any of these restaurants and bars you were 454 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: talking about. 455 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 6: So we know that there's an audio. We obtained the 456 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 6: audio of the weekend that sounds that you hear the 457 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 6: gunshots and some screeching, But the audio is just audio, 458 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 6: there's no video. And so we know that police were 459 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 6: out on bicycles. They were handing out bicycles for their 460 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 6: detectives to literally ride that whole area looking for video, 461 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 6: and we know that there are a number of bars 462 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 6: and restaurants that do have videos. 463 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 2: I'm looking specifically at a white building to the left 464 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: of the crime There's a white building and it looks 465 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 2: to be some sort of a you know how you 466 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: see like a bus stop with a little roof on it. 467 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 3: One of those may be nearby. What kind of train 468 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 3: was this? 469 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 6: By the way, So we have a lot of industry 470 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 6: in Baton Rouge, especially on the northern end. So when 471 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 6: we talk about train We're not talking about passenger rail. 472 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 6: These are tanker cars things like that that are going 473 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 6: to and from in that industrial section. Yes, cargoes, so. 474 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 2: There wouldn't be a whole lot of witnesses around standing 475 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: at a train stop like a bus stop waiting. I'm 476 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 2: looking at a picture of her now on homecoming court. 477 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: Just talk about scrubbed and sunshine. Well, of course the 478 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 2: family is devastated. 479 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 3: Listen, what does. 480 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 4: Your gut tell you about what happened that night in 481 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 4: her car. 482 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 10: The only thing that I can really think at this 483 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 10: point is it's a bad case of wrong place at 484 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 10: the wrong time. You know, she's not anyone that had enemies. 485 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 10: We don't think that she was being stalked or followed. 486 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 10: They really don't have an explanation at this point. They're 487 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 10: trying to find some type of video footage, some kind 488 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 10: of surveillance. They're going further back down the road to 489 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 10: you know, maybe check those cameras see if someone was 490 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 10: following or seeing if they can see you know, maybe 491 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 10: people walking in the area or something that could have 492 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 10: been involved in this. But as of now, that particular 493 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 10: stretch of town, they don't have the surveillance that's necessary. 494 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 2: You're hearing Ali's father. I don't know how he has 495 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: his strength to even speak. He's talking to our friend 496 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 2: Martha McCollum on Fox News. I guess he's propelled by 497 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 2: seeking justice for his daughter Ali. 498 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace. 499 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 2: You know, I know that she was eating fries, Doctor 500 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 2: Michelle Dufree, because when her body was found still sitting 501 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: in her car, she was still in her seat with 502 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: the fries in her lap. 503 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 3: It's not like she was. 504 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: Doing anything to intimidate or threaten her shooters in no 505 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: way at all, That's. 506 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 9: Right, Nancy. I mean, this is someone who is you know, 507 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 9: stopped at a train track, minding their own business, eating 508 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 9: fries on their way home. I mean this was senseless 509 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 9: and I mean just absolutely a third attack on an 510 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 9: innocent person. 511 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 12: And can I jump in. 512 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 9: This this moment. 513 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 12: And it's very excessive the shooting. What do you mean, 514 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 12: I mean the number of shots that were fired. 515 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: Exactly, exactly, guys. Take a listen to our friends at 516 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: Inside Edition. 517 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 15: As the roadside memorial grows on Government Street near the 518 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 15: spot where twenty one year old LSU student Ali Rice 519 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 15: was shot and killed early Friday morning, Questions still linger 520 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 15: from the community on what happened. Lieutenant Don Copola with 521 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 15: VRPD tells me the motive at this time is still 522 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 15: unclear to investigators. Rice was found dead inside her bullet 523 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 15: whittled car near the train tracks on Government Street close 524 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 15: to Eddie Robinson Drive. Police say, if you're uneasy about 525 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 15: what happened, you can use alternate routes. 526 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 17: The heartbroken father of a slain college senior is pleading 527 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 17: for help tracking down the killer. 528 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 7: It's a great day with Griffin. 529 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 17: Twenty one year old Ali Rice was shot multiple times 530 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 17: through the windshields of her car when it was stopped 531 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 17: at a railroad crossing while she was on her way 532 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 17: home in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. The marketing major from Louisiana 533 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 17: State University had been on an night out with friends. 534 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 3: She was eating fries. What a barrage of bullets hit her. 535 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: You're hearing not only the voice of Ali Rice. She 536 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 2: was saying, it's a great day to beat a griff, 537 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 2: and that was her voice. You're not only hearing inside Edition, 538 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: but our friend Miranda Thomas at wd beat J seven 539 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 2: straight back out to you, Chris Nakamoto, tell me about 540 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 2: what is being done to find Ali's killer. 541 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 6: The district attorney told us it's an all hands on 542 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 6: deck thing. I mean, they have not stopped from the 543 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 6: moment that she was killed. You have all the intelligence 544 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 6: divisions that are keeping their ear to the ground. They 545 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 6: are working over time. You now have the ATF, DEA, 546 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 6: FBI all joining in the investigation. You have all of 547 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 6: the RPD having multiple meetings talking about it. 548 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 2: Do you say the DEA is involved? Yes, that's interesting. 549 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: What do you make of that, Wendy Patrick, that the 550 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 2: DEA is involved? 551 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 13: What I make of it is that there's more investigation 552 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,959 Speaker 13: then they're able to tell us because, as you noted earlier, 553 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 13: they don't want to compromise the integrity of ongoing leads, 554 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 13: so they're probably following up on other leads, other information 555 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 13: and intel that came in from other sources. But it 556 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 13: is very interesting, and you know, our ears perk up 557 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 13: when we heard an agency like that was called in 558 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 13: with what originally looked like just some sort of a 559 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 13: murder investigation. It's never that straightforward. There's always more to 560 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 13: the story. 561 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 2: I will never forget the first triple homicide I prosecuted, Wendy. 562 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 3: I was out working night. 563 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 2: And day two and three o'clock in the morning at 564 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 2: that playground I was talking about earlier. That is where 565 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 2: the triple homicide went went down. Three young boys, really young, 566 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: like fifteen sixteen seventeen were shot dead around midnight eleven 567 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: thirty pm on a Sunday night on that playground, and 568 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: I found out well into the investigation. 569 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 3: Nobody wanted to talk because. 570 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 2: They were afraid that the hod A DEA investigation go 571 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 2: on at the same time. And of course the FEDS 572 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 2: would not share any information at all, no matter how 573 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 2: much I begged. I think they were letting me do 574 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: their dirty work. 575 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 3: For them, and I did so. 576 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: When you bring in the FEDS, the DEA, Drug Enforcement 577 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 2: Agency and the FBI there, I think you're right, Wendy, 578 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 2: there's more going on that meets the eye. Of course, 579 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 2: the parents absolutely devastated. Take a listen to our friends 580 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: at inside. Addition, speaking to Allie's dad. 581 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 17: Allie always had a smile on her face. She posted 582 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 17: videos dancing with her dad. 583 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 3: How close were you? 584 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 10: Shet? Video messages me at work, you know, all day long, 585 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 10: and we. 586 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 9: Spent a lot of time together. 587 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 17: Her slang is baffling police and no motive or suspects 588 00:32:58,880 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 17: have been named. 589 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 3: Have police given. 590 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,239 Speaker 17: You any idea who could have done this? 591 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 10: At this point, there's really not any leads. 592 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 2: Okay, let me go out to you, doctor Angela Arnold, 593 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 2: help me out. Give me your analysis. 594 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 4: My analysis from what I've heard today is that this 595 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 4: was a random act of violence, in all likelihood perpetrated 596 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 4: by some sort of gang initiation. I can't imagine anything 597 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 4: that this beautiful girl did to bring this on herself. 598 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 4: She was just a completely unlucky victim in this. 599 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 3: And it's hideous when you hear the words from police saying, quote, 600 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 3: she's with the coroner now, she didn't make it. It's 601 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 3: the most devastating words you can ever hear. 602 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: That's a quote from her father, Paul Rice, the family Paul, 603 00:33:54,400 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: her stepmom Kay Rice, her mother Angela, her stepfather Travis devastated. 604 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: I can't even imagine dodtra Angie. We always hear you 605 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 2: should never have to bury your child. I hate to 606 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 2: even say the words because all I can think of 607 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 2: are my children, John, David and Lucy. And you know, 608 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 2: doctor Angie, I thought I knew everything about grief and 609 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: mourning and devastation on my fiance. 610 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 3: It was murdered. Now that I have children, I can't 611 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 3: imagine anything worse than having your child murdered. 612 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 4: Well, because, Nancy, as you said, all we do are 613 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 4: entire life. 614 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 2: I mean, a child die in any way, I just 615 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 2: can't even imagine that. 616 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 4: But murdered and shot multiple times. You know, she may 617 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 4: have been unrecognizable, We don't know. 618 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 11: It was a. 619 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 4: Horrific way for that beautiful girl to die. And I'm 620 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 4: not sure how any parent ever truly gets over that, Nancy, 621 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 4: because we spend our entire lives trying to protect them, 622 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 4: open that little door to give them some freedom when 623 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 4: they go to college. And then she's getting ready to 624 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 4: graduate from college. We've done everything just beautifully, and then 625 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 4: something like this befalls her. 626 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 3: Really, parents, blessings and deities are never really over here. 627 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 3: She is about to graduate and start an internship out 628 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 3: in the big bad world, and this has to happen 629 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 3: to their baby. 630 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 4: And she thought, your children are always your babies, aren't they. 631 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,439 Speaker 4: They're always your babies. My little girl, I still see 632 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 4: her as my baby, and hearing this story, I'm scared. 633 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 4: You're always scared to death that something like that could 634 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,919 Speaker 4: happen to your own child. Because it's out there. It's 635 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 4: out there in this mean world that we live in. 636 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 3: Now, I want you to hear Allie. Take a listen 637 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 3: to our friends from News Nation. 638 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 7: The family distraught over who could have killed a young 639 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 7: woman whose love of life they called contagious alson Nicole. 640 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 12: Raise and I'm going to wake up that ate you 641 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 12: tomorrow and have coffee. 642 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 9: With how lovely your roommates, because that's just what I 643 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 9: want to do. 644 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 7: It's a whole Rice's uncle, Mike, spoke with News Nation today. 645 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 7: He says the family has been given no answers. 646 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 18: Well, it had no bed, but no enemies. We truly 647 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 18: thank us for random micro violence. Some mobsters just take 648 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 18: a love with some poor, pure, innocent child. 649 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 7: At the time of rice Is shooting, police believe the 650 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 7: LSU senior was stopped waiting for a train to pass. 651 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 3: Guys, take a listen to our friends WAFB. 652 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 2: Well. 653 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 19: Many parents greeted their graduates after today's or So College 654 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 19: of Business ceremony. The parents of Ali Rice walk out 655 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 19: with just her diploma in hand. 656 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 10: This is a difficult day. Today is three months to 657 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 10: the day of Ali's murder. This was a day we 658 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 10: were all looking forward to for her. You had to 659 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 10: honor her for all our hard work and what it 660 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 10: would take to to actually graduate from college. And you know, 661 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 10: she had that day's toling from her, as did we. 662 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 19: Ali's father, her mother, stepparents, brother, and two roommates attended 663 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 19: today's graduation where Ali received her degree posthumously. Paul Rice says, 664 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 19: today is a difficult day during a difficult time of year. 665 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 10: I think we focus a lot more on our positive 666 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 10: memories of Ali. You know, this time of year, a 667 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 10: lot of those things pop up. You know, a lot 668 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 10: of people are remembering her, a lot of people are 669 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 10: reaching out, and all of that. 670 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 19: Helps, but sticking together helps them get through the hard days. 671 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 10: We just try to take everything one day at a time. 672 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 10: Right now, we're waiting on, you know, any kind of answers, 673 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 10: any kind of hope. 674 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 19: Rice says he has not been told any updates on 675 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 19: the investigation into his daughter's murder. 676 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 2: It's almost the worse when the act is random, because 677 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 2: it's kind of like your whole life is devastated by 678 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 2: the luck of the draw. The tip line two two five, 679 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 2: three four four seven eight six seven repeat two two five, three, 680 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:10,720 Speaker 2: four four seven eight six seven our prayers with Ali's 681 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:16,439 Speaker 2: family as we pray the killers are brought to justice. 682 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 3: Goodbye friend,