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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. No formula for finding a franchise quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: never more apparent than what we've seen this year. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what the Giants have in Daniel Jones. You know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you find a bargain. Sometimes you waste a high

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Speaker 1: draft pick. Giants used a high draft pick on Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they wasted a high draft pick

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady and the Patriots did back in the day.

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Speaker 1: But one thing's for sure, it's an elusive task to

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Speaker 1: find your franchise quarterback. Not that many teams get it right.

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Speaker 1: The Bucks did get it right, and they're a contender,

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl contender. The Giants in a different situation

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Speaker 1: right now. They do play hard. They have to play

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Speaker 1: hard because they're not a very good team. Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: has all the tools, he can run, throw, athleticism. Problem

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Speaker 1: is can't avoid turnovers. You can't play the position if

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Speaker 1: you can't avoid turnovers. Just ask Jameis Winston last night.

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Speaker 1: Two costly interceptions in the two point laws, and it

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Speaker 1: has to be frustrating for Giants fans because you watch

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones forcing things that he doesn't have to. Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady and the Buccaneers didn't play great last night, but

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Speaker 1: Brady took care of the football and sometimes that's the

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Speaker 1: most important thing. And Jones is only in his second season,

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Speaker 1: but the NFL is moving on quicker and quicker at

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Speaker 1: this position. The fact that the Dolphins want to find

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Speaker 1: out now if two a tongue of Ioloa is their

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Speaker 1: quarterback for the future should tell you everything. Because they

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Speaker 1: have the Texans draft pick this year, and if the

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Speaker 1: Texans would somehow end up with the worst record in

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Speaker 1: football this second worst record in football, third or fourth,

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Speaker 1: maybe there's a package deal. Maybe you go after Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: This is how teams are thinking. You think you got

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Speaker 1: your franchise quarterback and you realize you don't. Chicago Bears

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Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubisky. The Bears they've done this four This was

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Speaker 1: one of those glaring mistakes and it's going to haunt

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Speaker 1: them for a while. The Browns with Baker Mayfield. They

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Speaker 1: don't know what they have with Baker Mayfield right now.

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Speaker 1: But if you're trying to correct these mistakes and deliver

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Speaker 1: on promise that the team saw in Daniel Jones when

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Speaker 1: they drafted him in twenty nineteen. It better happened sooner

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Speaker 1: because later they're probably going to take a quarterback. If

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Speaker 1: they're up there again, they probably will. Mclevint, you got

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Speaker 1: action live on NBC Sports. Okay, question of the day.

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Speaker 1: If you're the Giants and let's say you have a

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Speaker 1: top three pick, are you moving on from Daniel Jones?

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Speaker 1: Sort of being discussed all throughout the media world right now.

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Speaker 1: They would have the second pick overall, which means they'd

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Speaker 1: have to decide on Daniel Jones or Justin Fields or

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, still employed by the New York Giants. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he's along for the ride. Isn't that everything

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Speaker 1: Dave Getleman, because if he goes another quarterback, then he's

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Speaker 1: admitting a mistake. If there's a new GM before the draft,

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Speaker 1: I would assume he goes in his own direction. I

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Speaker 1: would think Getleman if he's still there, is staying with

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. That would be my gut feeling. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you trade the pick. I don't know what's

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Speaker 1: they're so close? I mean they should have four wins

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Speaker 1: They could have taken this to overtime. And you know,

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Speaker 1: Nate made the right call when he threw the flag,

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Speaker 1: So I'm not sure why I got picked up. We

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Speaker 1: I think we could pick up that flag. Let's go home.

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Speaker 1: It was one of those is it enough to overturn

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Speaker 1: the call? That's what I thought. It was, bang bang,

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Speaker 1: think the NFL has to have, you know, complete transparency.

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Speaker 1: The NFL. If you you know, whenever there's doubt, just

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Speaker 1: the money that football sound guy pump in fake sound

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Speaker 1: Mclev and you you would have let it stand, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he got lucky because he deflected it. But

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Speaker 1: the NFL, don't you want overtime Tom Brady and overtime

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Speaker 1: And overtime? Yeah, MC club, you were into the eleventh

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Speaker 1: you don't interfere, you can. I'd ever understand real quick

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Speaker 1: holding question? What is holding? And is it only when

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Speaker 1: To me, I still don't. I never understand holding. You're

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Speaker 1: talking about offensive hold offensive holding on the line? It

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Speaker 1: feels like the same block every time they just randomly

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Speaker 1: Offensive holding is now only called when the defensive lineman

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Speaker 1: without replay. That's when it gets called down, which is

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Speaker 1: put us together with Brady pre lawsuit. Yes seton Jason

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Speaker 1: Pierre Paul was able to get one of those calls

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Speaker 1: last night where he's like running through the line and

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Speaker 1: I don't know he was really hit quite that much,

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Speaker 1: but it was it was the cell that really got it.

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Speaker 1: shot slow motion. The Giants, though in close games man.

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Speaker 1: and I've been out, I've missed the game and I

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Speaker 1: want to come back and I'm going to change. If

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Speaker 1: I hear that, then I'm all for it. But I

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Speaker 1: haven't heard that yet. What team are you all in

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Speaker 1: on right now? Nobody? I think everybody has some issues.

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Speaker 1: Rodney Harrison. I had this debate on Sunday night. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Kansas City, you know they're the team to be. Well,

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Speaker 1: Kansas City has some defensive issues as well. I love

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Speaker 1: their offense and where they're going, but I see some

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Speaker 1: of those things creep up. And Pittsburgh is undefeated, but

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Speaker 1: we see leads being blown. I saw coverages where I

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Speaker 1: couldn't understand what was happening. Nobody's around Willie Sneed and

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Speaker 1: so that's not great. But then you see the plays

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Speaker 1: that they make to make things happen. So yeah, they've

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Speaker 1: got a lot of talented guys. I love their receiving corps. Now,

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Speaker 1: I love Ben being in control, but they've they've got

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Speaker 1: some issues. So I think that's just where we are.

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Speaker 1: Fundamental football, time management, all those things that we've lost

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Speaker 1: that dealing with this pandemic and not practicing. So I

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Speaker 1: think somebody's going to emerge here in the next few weeks,

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Speaker 1: but we're still in that discovery phase. I think he's

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame coach Tony Dungee on loan from

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Speaker 1: NBC Football Night in America. It feels like the game

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Speaker 1: is all about offense. You can't have too much offense.

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Speaker 1: The Seahawks wanting to get more offense in there, Kansas

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Speaker 1: City using their draft pick to get more offense in there.

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Speaker 1: Is that where we are right now in the NFL

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Speaker 1: that you know, can you build a defensive minded team

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Speaker 1: that is a super Bowl contender? I don't think in

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Speaker 1: this salary cap era and the way you have to

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Speaker 1: do it, there's not going to be a legion of

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Speaker 1: boom that leads a team to a chairmanship. With defensive play,

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have some good defenders. You're going to have

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Speaker 1: a defense that helps you win. But you got to

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Speaker 1: have a quarterback. You got to have an offense that

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Speaker 1: can score. And I think if I were coaching now,

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Speaker 1: I would go down that road. Hey, I do I

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Speaker 1: want Antonio Brown to add to my three other playmaking

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Speaker 1: receivers because the more I can score the better off

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Speaker 1: we're going to be. The rules say that. Everything lends

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Speaker 1: itself to that. And when you have to decide how

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Speaker 1: to spend your money, who you're going to pay, You

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Speaker 1: need to pay those offensive guys, no doubt. But when

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Speaker 1: you had Peyton, did Peyton always want you to draft

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Speaker 1: an offensive player? No, not necessarily, but we we did.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the things Bill Poland told me. We're

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Speaker 1: always going to feed the monster. So you got on defense.

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Speaker 1: You gotta make it work. We've got to get guys

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Speaker 1: like Robert Mathis in the fourth round, who are great players,

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Speaker 1: but it comes down the line in the first round.

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Speaker 1: I remember, boy, there was a mock draft and everybody

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Speaker 1: saying my second year there we got to go defense,

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Speaker 1: and Bill said, hey, Dallas Clark is going to help

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Speaker 1: us win championships. We gotta take him. We were number

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Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty six on defense, and we fed the

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Speaker 1: monster and Joseph Die and we kept doing that and

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Speaker 1: we got enough offensive guys. We had to find the

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Speaker 1: defensive guys, and we got some guys kind of under

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Speaker 1: the radar, but offense was going to win it for us.

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Speaker 1: And I think we're even farther along in that. Now,

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Speaker 1: in this era, what would you do with Jimmy Garoppolo

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Speaker 1: if you're the forty nine ers, I think I would

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Speaker 1: stay with him. And he's played some games where you

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Speaker 1: know that that stretched last year when there was as

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Speaker 1: good as anybody in football when they run the football

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Speaker 1: and when they're playing defense. Jimmy Garoppolo is very good.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of quarterbacks like that. So I've

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Speaker 1: got one that I know can take. It's a super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I think I would stay with it. But you've got

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Speaker 1: to have that core around him, no doubt. But if

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Speaker 1: you're Bill Belichick, would you at least inquire about trading

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo back to New England? No, because I think when

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Speaker 1: you let him go, that told me something right there.

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Speaker 1: If I thought Jimmy Garoppolo was the next Tim Brady,

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Speaker 1: I'm not letting him go no matter what anybody says

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Speaker 1: or what happens. So that gave me a little buyer.

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Speaker 1: Beware when they let him go. New England doesn't let

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Speaker 1: good players just go for free. Hey, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: do your favorite San Francisco. He's a really great quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Good luck. No that you know he had some concerns,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know what those were, but I think

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Speaker 1: that ship is sailed well. I don't think Tom wanted

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Speaker 1: the competition there. I don't know about that. Even if

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Speaker 1: that's true, Bill Belichick doesn't care about people's feelings, okay,

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people that had suggestions for

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Speaker 1: how he should do things, and Belichick is going to

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Speaker 1: do it his way and if he really thought it

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Speaker 1: will make this work. Tom. If Jimmy Garoppolo is the

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Speaker 1: heir apparent, he's the next You're forty years old, and

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Speaker 1: I know that you've been with me and we've won

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Speaker 1: all these Super Bowls, but this guy can get me

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Speaker 1: to five more super Bowls in the next ten years.

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Speaker 1: I think your feelings are gonna have to get hurt. Tom.

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Speaker 1: How long do you stay with Cam Newton. I think

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Speaker 1: you righte it out this year. You built this around

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Speaker 1: a running attack and all of those things, and this

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Speaker 1: is the way you can win. Maybe you can turn

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Speaker 1: it around and get it going. If not, you know

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Speaker 1: you're not going to be able to go to Jared

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Speaker 1: Stidham and all of a sudden turn this into a

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Speaker 1: drop back. You need to find out if he can

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Speaker 1: play tone or do you think Belichick knows what he

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Speaker 1: has in jared'stid him. I think he kind of understands that,

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Speaker 1: otherwise he wouldn't have gone out to get Cam Newton. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that again when you made that move, that

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Speaker 1: told me, yeah, I like Jared Stidham, but I'm not

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Speaker 1: sold on him yet. Well, you know, and you had

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Speaker 1: edgerin James, who's a Hall of Famer. But I wonder

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Speaker 1: about that position as we move forward. You know, you

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Speaker 1: have to be pretty much a guy who can run

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Speaker 1: but also catch the ball out of the backfield. Where

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Speaker 1: do you place your priorities on your running back in

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Speaker 1: the draft? I think you you look at what people

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Speaker 1: have done. Look at San Francisco if they can put

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Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel back there and make yards and run the ball, well,

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Speaker 1: and you look at Kansas City and guys we thought, oh,

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Speaker 1: Lashan McCoy and then he kind of got nicked up,

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Speaker 1: and Damian Williams went in there, and now he's opted out,

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Speaker 1: And what are we going to do with draft? Clyde

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Speaker 1: Edwards Hilaire and you know, we kind of went through

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Speaker 1: that with edgerin Bill Poland came to me, I'll never

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Speaker 1: forget it. Dan, He said, you know, we can pay edgerin.

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Speaker 1: He deserves it. He's a great player. He's been the

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Speaker 1: heart and soul of us. But if we sign him

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Speaker 1: to what he is going to command, we're not going

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Speaker 1: to be able to resign Reggie Wayne and Dallas arc

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Speaker 1: and Dwight Freeney. So the better way to go would

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Speaker 1: be to let Edger and go will draft the young

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Speaker 1: running back. We'll get them at the rookie rate, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get Maurice Jones Drew or Josepha died and

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened. So you know, I think that's

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Speaker 1: the way you go down the road. You say, hey,

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Speaker 1: if I'm I'm Kansas City, yeah, I'd love to have

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Speaker 1: that great back, but you know what, I'll get one.

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Speaker 1: I'll get one in the draft. Would you trade for J. J. Watt?

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Speaker 1: Would you trade him? If you're the Texans? I might

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Speaker 1: think about it now, depending on what I could get

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Speaker 1: because my season and next year is going to be

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Speaker 1: a rebuilding year and I don't have high draft choices,

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Speaker 1: so as painful as it would be, and you're giving

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Speaker 1: up a big time playmaker to recoup some of that

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Speaker 1: and to be able to build my offense. I might

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Speaker 1: have to think about it. I don't know what he's worth.

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Speaker 1: A second maybe a third round pick? Do you even

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Speaker 1: get that? For JJ want you might get a second

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Speaker 1: and somebody like Seattle, Now they got Carlos Dunlop. But

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Speaker 1: if JJ Watt were dangling out there and you thought, man,

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Speaker 1: I can get to the Super Bowl, that one guy

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Speaker 1: who can rush the passer, maybe get that one sack

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Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship game that I need you, you'd

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Speaker 1: think about that. We did that Booger McFarlane. We needed

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Speaker 1: a run stopping nose tackle. We had a lot of

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Speaker 1: injuries up front, and we said, hey, second round pick.

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Speaker 1: I know Booger, he can fit in the system and

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Speaker 1: he played great spots and helped us win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Was it worth a second rounder? You bet it was.

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Speaker 1: It's great to talk to you again. Hope things are

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Speaker 1: well with the family there, and my best to everybody

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Speaker 1: on football night, no matter sounds good, DP always great

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Speaker 1: to talk to you. That's Tony Dungee. Be sure to

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Speaker 1: catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick Show week

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Speaker 1: days at nine am Eastern six am Pacific on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio wapp Get out and vote,

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Speaker 1: but be prepared to wait in line, maybe longer than

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Speaker 1: an hour. I was this morning scene where I went

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Speaker 1: to vote a little over an hour. You know, It's

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Speaker 1: used to be you just go in, walk in. You know,

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Speaker 1: they look for your address, your name, and you're like,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're on a fast pass at Disney World.

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Speaker 1: This time around, I show up and I go, what

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Speaker 1: are all those people around the building doing? And then

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Speaker 1: and I'm I don't I don't think he's talking to

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Speaker 1: me because I'm thinking there's never a line like this.

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Speaker 1: You're over here, the line's over here. And then I

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Speaker 1: keep walking. He goes hey, Sports Center guy, it's over here,

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Speaker 1: and I go, oh, that's me. And then I go, oh, man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I can get this done this morning.

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Speaker 1: He dropped Sports Center guy out yeah, yeah, yeah, And

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Speaker 1: then I figured it was me because Van Pelt he

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Speaker 1: doesn't live there around there anymore. Yes, Polly, did you

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Speaker 1: guys notice? And I knew h Kanye West was running

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Speaker 1: for president, but I thought it was more of a

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Speaker 1: on the ballot. Oh, yeah, you guys saw him on

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Speaker 1: the ballot. Yeah. I was pretty surprised because I didn't

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Speaker 1: think he was following through with it. No, no, he's

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Speaker 1: following through. He's following I'm not telling you if I

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Speaker 1: voted for him or not. I won't. Okay, I didn't

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Speaker 1: see him on the ballot. Vegas has prop bets and

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Speaker 1: he was listed from Wyoming. Yes, I did not know

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Speaker 1: Kanye West was from Wyoming. I thought he's from Chicago. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: he he lives there, or he's got a place there,

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Speaker 1: he's got a compound there. But there's a there's an

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Speaker 1: over under on how many votes he'll get this year.

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Speaker 1: Vegas has an overunder on Kanye West, like, does he

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Speaker 1: get a million votes? Might be that that's the over under.

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Speaker 1: I'm pro bowl who joins us on the program? Who's

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Speaker 1: got more Pro Bowls? You or your dad? Oh? I

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Speaker 1: like that you got your vote mask on today. I

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Speaker 1: like that. That's an that's an entrance there, Cameron, Who's

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Speaker 1: I'll say, I mean absolutely you got to have you know,

637
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Speaker 1: I could. But in terms of you know, I like

638
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: to say, Jordan, man, we have to let controls. Let

639
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: me let me hold hold on here, Kim, because I

640
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: still got a bad connection here. So we'll see if

641
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: we can rectify that. But it sounds a little hollow there,

642
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: and we'll try to figure that out. By the way,

643
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: eight seven seven, three D P show. And then I'm

644
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 1: going to talk to rich Eisen coming up here at

645
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: the top of the hour. We wanted to have Rich

646
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: on since he's a Michigan alum, get his thoughts on

647
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: what's going on with Jim Horrible. They got a game

648
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: against Indiana that's kind of sneaky because Indiana is a

649
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: whole lot better than what you think. And uh, they

650
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: already beat Penn State at home, and we thought we'd

651
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: have Rich on and to talk some NFL stuff as well. Yes,

652
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: poor rich has to get worked up for the Indiana

653
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: Michigan game. Like usually, he's in his mind. Historically he

654
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: could take a few weekends off where it was going

655
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: to be a nice, easy winning But I said this yesterday.

656
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: If you're a Michigan fan, you'd rather lose to Ohio

657
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: State I think, than lose to Michigan State at home,

658
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: because that is embarrassing. This is a Michigan State team

659
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: that lost to Rutgers. Like Ohio State, you sort of

660
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 1: expect to lose too. But is Cam back with let's

661
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: try it again? Cam? Can you hear me now? Yeah? Yeah, okay.

662
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: So your dad have more Pro Bowls than you? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

663
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: he's got six. I keep saying. I was like, you know,

664
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: in my householder, we took we go about that. Jordan

665
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: men had eleven Pro Bowls. I don't only got five.

666
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm almost oh my weight, but at

667
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: least we're double digits. And your dad played tight end

668
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: for the Vikings Steve Jordan for over a decade I think, yeah,

669
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: thirteen seasons deep two through ninety four. You're talking about

670
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: six Pro bowls. Growing up, you just don't realize how

671
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: how great your dad is until you know high school college.

672
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: Did you go into the locker room? Do you remember

673
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: your first game you went to? See? Nah? I mean

674
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: I remember being super cold and some sort of away games,

675
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: high situation where you're just miserable and you're just like,

676
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: I just want to get out of here, get to

677
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: the car, and you know, the car locking, the car

678
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: doors frozen. So it's not what we call fine memories.

679
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: I mean I got more memories of running around the

680
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: training facility and punching on the big punching bags and

681
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: you know whatever it is. Didn't now your dad went

682
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: to Brown? Did you ever consider going to Brown? Not

683
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: at all. Nothing. Nothing about the East Coast life is

684
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: appeasing to a West Coast kid. Oh really, I'm come on,

685
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: I'm in Arizona. You know we used we used to

686
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: go into California all the time, like the best coast

687
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: just is is just a better way of life. And

688
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: to you got like four seasons on the East Coast.

689
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure what that's about. My thickest piece

690
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: of clothing is a sweater, you know, like that it

691
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: just doesn't go well sweats and shorts aren't going to

692
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: get you through New York anything. Uh, you got the

693
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: game coming up Sunday night with the Buccaneers. How closely

694
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: were you watching the game last night? I did not.

695
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: I did not. I'm not gonna lie to you. I

696
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: assumed that Tampa Bay was gonna be the Giants. I

697
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: didn't realize it's gonna be a close game like that.

698
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 1: You can't get anything out of a game like that,

699
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: Like that wouldn't be homework. Oh for sure, I'm gonnareak.

700
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna break down that film because they got after him.

701
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I saw the highlights. My kids won last night,

702
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: so you know, Monday became an upside down Magic off

703
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: Disney plus a movie night instead of Football's got three kids?

704
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: They win sometimes. Yeah, when you go against Brady, like,

705
00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: is there any surprises? No, I mean he's uh, he's

706
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: the most you know, probably winning his quarterback that you're

707
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: going to see in our area. You're talking about six

708
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: championship rings. That's undisputed. He's probably the second greatest quarterback

709
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: of all times, right bow, Do you really think that?

710
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: Do you really think that that Drew is a season?

711
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: Do you think that Drew is a better quarterback than time.

712
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: Do I know that Drew is a better quick last

713
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: ten years of my life tells me. So that's being

714
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: a good teammate. What do you expect out Antonio Brown?

715
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: We all know Antonio Brown when he hits the field

716
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: of special um. Even in his you know, limited playing

717
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: time to the last you know whatever two seasons of

718
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: whatever was going on, he showed up. He showed out

719
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: at the Patriots when he played, So we know he

720
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: is a special talent when he takes the field. That's

721
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: something that will be prepped for. It's not like they

722
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: already didn't have a potent office to begin with. What's

723
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: another piece? It seems like every week they're adding more pieces, right,

724
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: Do you know him? Yeah? I mean we I hate

725
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: to say it, but we share the same birthday. And

726
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: I always say hate to say because I hate to

727
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: share my birthday with anybody. I don't really I think

728
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't work that way. Cam Like, there's a lot

729
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: of people in the world. I hear you, but I've

730
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: got friends that have my birthday and I either congratulate

731
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: them on the ninth or the eleventh, not on the tenth. Yeah, Yeah,

732
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey man, happy early birthday, and I will

733
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: not tell you if the tenth is my day, like

734
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: the text me have birthday? Can I I appreciate it.

735
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: And then the next day I'm like, hey, same to you.

736
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: Happy belated. I'm selfish. Sorry. How would you sum up

737
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: this season? Um? This season for the Saints? The season

738
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: I hadn't failed the season because of COVID. That's that's

739
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: an open question right there. But the season for the Saints,

740
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: we're trending upwards. I mean sitting at where we were, Um,

741
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: I sitting at five and two, you know, after going

742
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: one in two. It's something that we're fighting. We're fighting

743
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: each and every week to to try and trend upwards.

744
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: We got got a lot of things to overcome, and

745
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: we're still cleaning up some things. But I like the

746
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: way we're playing right now. Do you have a list,

747
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: whether you actually have one or in your mind of

748
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: quarterbacks you've sacked or haven't sacked. Not, not at all.

749
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: All I care about is that wind column, um, personal accolades.

750
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: I worry about in the off season after we get

751
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: done winning. UM. During season, all I care about is

752
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: trying to get a Super Bowl. As you said, you

753
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: know me and Pop's got eleven Pro Bowls, twenty three

754
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: years of NFL experience between us. Now we have no

755
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. I'm trying to win. Have you sacked Brady? Yes?

756
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: Look for verbal compliment. Yes, So it wasn't memorable then,

757
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: I mean not at all. I remember my first sack

758
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: and I remember my last sack. Who's the toughest guy,

759
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: toughest guy to bring down? Um? I mean I thought

760
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: that clearly it's Cam Newton, h Cam Newton in his

761
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: whole Carolina Panthers career. Um, he's bigger. What's he's biggest?

762
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna get fast as they're gonna get There is

763
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: probably no other quarterback that's as hard to take down,

764
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: especially when he's rolling. Um. Ben Roethlisberger is huge. You know.

765
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Russell Milson might be my my my white Buffalo.

766
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: I don't think I sacked him now that I think

767
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: I think about it. But I mean, Russell Wilson is fast.

768
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is fast, but Cam Newton has has all

769
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: of it. Do any of these guys talk to you?

770
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: Do I talk to them? Absolutely? Do they talk about No?

771
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: I mean, but who are you talking? But what are

772
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 1: you trying to get out of them? I'm just trying

773
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: to rile the feathers up, you know, like at some

774
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: at some point you're just looking like how can I

775
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: how can I try and affect him? But they know, like,

776
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: if you're the face of the franchise, you're getting you're

777
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: getting compensated well, you're probably playing well. And you know,

778
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: one sack or two sacks and three sacks, you know

779
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: down the line, four sacks call it. You know, all

780
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna do is you start talking to your officsive lineman.

781
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: You're not even gonna talk to the defensive And after

782
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: like I try and get chippy. And at this point

783
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: I realized quarterbacks are just good people. Would you rather

784
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: face a rookie tackle or rookie quarterback. I'd rather face

785
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: a quarterback who's gonna sit in the pocket and pat

786
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: that ball a couple of times and make smart decision,

787
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: you know, make the smart decisions, not just the first decision. Um,

788
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: you got rickie quarterbacks who come in and know how

789
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: to air it out and get the ball out of

790
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: their hands fast. I'd rather let have a quarterback sit

791
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 1: at nine yards and try and get to their second

792
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 1: or third read ever ever come close to hitting breeze

793
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 1: uh in practice? Yeah, a couple of times. I doubt

794
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: I'll ever get that chance to actually sat Saton drew.

795
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: It hurts. It hurts. I mean we talked about it

796
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: in practice. I'm like, I have been one no cam,

797
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: I would have got out of there. I need that validity,

798
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: like I just need to fold you one time, Like,

799
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: but it's okay, that's my guy. What the heck is

800
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: going on with Michael Thomas? Is he playing Sunday Night?

801
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: That's a Michael Thomas question. I'm not saying it's above

802
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: my page grade, but that's coming from a higher spot

803
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: than where I'm sitting here to play Sunday Night. I

804
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: expect Mike Tea to play whenever he's told that he

805
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: will be playing. UM in terms of what my team

806
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: brings to the game. I can't wait till he gets

807
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: back to being played UM in my mind, you know,

808
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: I hope next to camera. No, can you just ask him,

809
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: just say, hey, is Michael Thomas gonna play this weekend?

810
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: Just ask him right, not even looking He's not even

811
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: looking me, Ye, you can you can get his attention.

812
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: It's yeah, he's not he's not coming up out there

813
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 1: at this point. You know, when Mike t takes the field,

814
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: just know he's gonna be he's gonna be right enough

815
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: to uh to take over a right. Uh. What are

816
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 1: you doing with your new foundation? Uh, the Goddess Love Foundation.

817
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: I mean we're in so many different things. You know,

818
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: we talk about Hurricane season, um and how it's affected

819
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: Louisiana from Delta to Laura to now you know Zeta

820
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: that just passed through New Orleans. I mean I saw

821
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: the eye of a hurricane, you know last week with

822
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: my kids. You know, we went outside. I was like, hey,

823
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: that's this is live hurricane. Apparently it's only happened like

824
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: four four times in the last hundred years in New Orleans. UM.

825
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: So we saw that and then went back inside. But

826
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: how many people are affected by these ricane? So we

827
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: started up a little fun with the United Way, UM

828
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: to get money out to Lake Charles and the and

829
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: the affected areas. And honestly, you know, we've got a

830
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: couple of things in the works now with the City

831
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: of New Orleans, which will be unveiled probably the next

832
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: month or so. Gone through tech funds, gone through you know,

833
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: diaper funds. This COVID has affected so many, so many

834
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: people throughout our nation, throughout the world at this point.

835
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: But controlling what you can't control, trying to affect what

836
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: you can't affect. My city of New Orleans, you know,

837
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm always I'm always looking and trying to do something

838
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, youth empowerment project, mentorship program in New Orleans.

839
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: It's called Cam Jordan's Dream Builders. Fun. You also got

840
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: a podcast with mark Ingram. Hey, no, no better person.

841
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: Have some fun within your brother. You know, we came

842
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: into the Saints together. We played Eight Years Deep together,

843
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: and that's my brother from another It's like, you know,

844
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: we're blood, but we're not blood. That's my guy. He's funny.

845
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: So he's a character. Hey, we started it up and

846
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: I mean we just started calling friends around the league

847
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: and just had had a blast for a few episodes

848
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 1: and we're releasing you know, every every Wednesday. Would you

849
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: so would drop one tomorrow tomorrow because today today is

850
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: important for voting and that's what I need everybody focus

851
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: on voting. Tomorrow, we'll have more fun. You're gonna run

852
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: for office one day office of being a dad of

853
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: three almost four now, Yes, that's it. I'm gonna have

854
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: a soccer van, a mom soccer van, which in my

855
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: mind is escalating. Now. Um wife, he says, she was

856
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: beyond the soccer van, so she's gotta escalate. So I

857
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: just I was like, I'll take that over when you know,

858
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: I'll retirement, uh, and then whatever whatever it takes too.

859
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: But at this point, I feel like I've got about

860
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: five years left to football, and I gotta make each

861
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: one of these years count. I got you. You know

862
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: how many sacks? You have? Eighty nine and a half

863
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: revulous season, another five and a half playoffs. You don't

864
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: keep track of your sacks? Huh uh No, I'm not.

865
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: I think I think that's really my problem is this

866
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: year is the first year where I've been like, I'm

867
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: actually with did my goals reach? Uh? Normally I worry

868
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 1: about you know, sack sack totals, all that other stuff

869
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: after season. And I'm getting back to that mentality because

870
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: when you think about like that grand picture, like I'm

871
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: this close to a one hundred sacks, Like a hundred

872
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: sacks is such a marquee note a goal that you

873
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 1: can actually capitalize and realize upon. It takes away from

874
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: you know, it sort of takes away so your focus

875
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: just a little bit, just in just in terms of

876
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: how thirsty you get dry games like I need this act,

877
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: like I need the sac, I need this sact. And

878
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: then instead of letting the sacks present themselves, well you

879
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: got bowls. If you get a couple more Pro bowls

880
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: and you get over one hundred sacks, you get one

881
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen hundred and twenty sacks. And now all

882
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're kind of knocking on the door Canton.

883
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: I'm probably knocking on the door Canton now. But that's

884
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: not me. That's not on me. That's on you know, whoever,

885
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: whoever goes head decides that you think you're a Hall

886
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 1: of Famer right now. I always think in my mind

887
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,479
Speaker 1: that I come out to be the best all around

888
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: defensive ending in the game. And I think I've proven

889
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: that over the last five years or so. It's not

890
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,479
Speaker 1: the sacks, it's not you know, just playing the playing

891
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: the past. I play the run, I play the past,

892
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: and I play second down too. I don't I want

893
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: to play all if there's seventy eight snaps in the game,

894
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: all the snaps in the game, I want to be

895
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: the best every play every game that I take the

896
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: field on. It's great to catch up with you again.

897
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: We always appreciate it. Thanks for joining us. Have fun

898
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: against brading the Buccaneers. Hey appreciate it. Hey all we

899
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: gotta do with it better every day, trending upwards. That's

900
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 1: all we care about. It's Cameron Jordan. Fox Sports Radio

901
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Speaker 1: has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch

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904
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: listen live. They bring in Rich Rich isasing here. Do

905
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: you think anybody big names get traded today? I don't

906
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: think so. Dan. If I had to choose a big

907
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: name that should get traded today, it should be Cam

908
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: to the Dallas Cowboys. That would be something that if

909
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: I was Dallas, I'd kicked the tires on. But I

910
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: just don't see anything like that. There's no fantasy football

911
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: trade in our future over the next ten hours. I

912
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: don't think if you're J. J. Watt, would you ask

913
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: to be traded without going to the media, right? Would

914
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: you ask behind the scenes? I don't. I don't think so. Um,

915
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. Look, I don't. I don't

916
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 1: profess to know exactly what's in his head. I think

917
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: he loves that city. I think he loves that town.

918
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: To answer your poll question, I would take Seattle if

919
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: I were him. I know obviously Packers is his childhood team,

920
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: but to me, Seattle is exactly what is exactly what

921
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: he would plug into. You know, obviously, when we're looking

922
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 1: at a post pandemic. I've never been in a place

923
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: where somebody's defensive play is directly plugged into the fans

924
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: and how it actually turns into a momentum changing play

925
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: quite like Seattle. I've never really seen anything quite like it.

926
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: The only thing that comes close to it is when

927
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: JJ Watt makes to play in Houston. I think it

928
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: would be a perfect perfect match. It's exactly what they need.

929
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: You even heard, you know, Collinsworth say a couple of

930
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: Sunday nights ago that where's the pass rush? This is

931
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: exactly what this team needs. They need the pass rush.

932
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: Carlos Dunlap maybe you know a factor, but I would

933
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: love to see that marriage with J. J. Watton Seattle.

934
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: I mentioned this to Peter King yesterday. I said, the

935
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: longer the season goes on, the less. I know, because

936
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: we have all these injuries, you're not quite sure if

937
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 1: teams are going to be able to play when they're

938
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 1: supposed to play each weekend. K this has been one

939
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: big question mark. I don't know who is great. I

940
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: don't know who is really good. I don't know I

941
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: know who's bad. Your Jets, Well, Dan, I thought you

942
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: were soft peddling all these NFL questions to, you know,

943
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: get me talking. Softened me up for the Michigan haymaker

944
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: that you from Ohio are about to deliver. You know,

945
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: I see it coming. I understand you don't normally tell

946
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: graph your punches, but I definitely have seen you at

947
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: work for a quarter century and know your style, so

948
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: this is an interesting way to soften me up. Yes,

949
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: but yes, the Jets stink on ice. To use the

950
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: phrase that I heard quite a bit growing up in

951
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 1: New York City, they are terrible. They have broken Sam Darnold.

952
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: They should sit him when I heard that they were

953
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: giving him an MRI on his shoulder that was so

954
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: hurt in the game in Denver that he came back

955
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: into the game after leaving it, only to have the

956
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: Jets even down two scores against Denver shoehorn in another

957
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: dumbass personal foul penalty just enough to get Donald back

958
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: on the field for three useless snaps. I thought that

959
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: they could use this MRI has covered to sit him

960
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: down and start to Flacco the rest of the year, because,

961
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: as you pointed out in your third hour preamble, that

962
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: there are teams on their heels with one win that

963
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: could absolutely used to Trevor Lawrence and would absolutely turn

964
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: their current starter into Josh Rosen to continue the analogy

965
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: for Trevor Lawrence, and the Jets should do that right now.

966
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: They should say to Sam Darnold, you are great. I

967
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: think I heard you driving in today to the show here.

968
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: I think Pittsburgh would be an amazing spot for him.

969
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: If Jimmy g is in fact maybe banged up to

970
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: the point where the Niners would want to move on.

971
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: I think he would be great there too, And the

972
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: Jets should send him packing and give him what he deserves,

973
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: which is a real opportunity in a franchise that can

974
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: handle it for him, and go get Trevor Lawrence. Would

975
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: you rather the Jets didn't win a game the rest

976
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,760
Speaker 1: of the season or they won four? Oh? I didn't stutter.

977
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to see them win a game the

978
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: rest of the season. Oh god, no, what's the point?

979
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: What is the absolute point? So you could see you

980
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: can feel good about yourself. The momentum they screwed up

981
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: last year, right, well, but there was no Trevor Lawrence

982
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: in their offering, offing or even you know this year's

983
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: top three picks in the offing. Really when they started

984
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: beginning to win again, right, I mean, there is there

985
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: is nothing like that. So right now they're in a

986
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: great spot. This kid is ridiculously special and he would

987
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: be amazing in New York City. All the people saying,

988
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: you know, he should stay in school and tell the

989
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: Jets I'm not coming. The Jets can basically tell him

990
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: at the combine, you know, we got this coach. You

991
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: tell the enemy to bring Andy Reid's playbook with him

992
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: or go for it. It's anybody, and it's the jets

993
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: only opportunity to get a coach who would want to

994
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: come to this franchise. It's it's a perfect situation that

995
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: they cannot screw up with a single win over the

996
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: next eight week Stan He's Rich Eisen, the Rich Eisen Show.

997
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: You can find it on Peacock right after this show.

998
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: And of course he is the NFL network host, which

999
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: should extend or expand playoffs just for this season college

1000
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: foot or the NFL College football right now. I don't

1001
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 1: understand why they don't do it. This is a perfect

1002
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: opportunity for whatever politics has been preventing them from doing

1003
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: the right thing, and eight team playoff is what we

1004
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: should see every year, Dan, I mean, you know there's

1005
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: a team that's fifth, six, seventh, eighth that has an

1006
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: opportunity to catch fire. We also know that there's a

1007
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: team that could be fifth or sixth that deserves to

1008
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: be in the top four. You know you're already seeing now,

1009
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure you're talking about the Clemson Notre

1010
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 1: Dame game that's on NBC this weekend that you're already hearing, like, well,

1011
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: Notre Dame beats Clemson. Now you didn't have Trevor Lawrence playing, well,

1012
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: Clemston beat Notre Dame. Ellen, I couldn't do it even

1013
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: without Trevor Lawrence. Like it's going to be cut either way.

1014
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: That is kind of a no win situation for Notre

1015
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: Dame and we should remove I know it. It adds

1016
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: a certain drama to this weekend because there's only four teams,

1017
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: but expanding it to eight, see how it goes. I

1018
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 1: think baseball showed the expanded playoffs were entertaining this year,

1019
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: and it had a March Madness type feel when it

1020
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 1: was a first pitch at one and then it kept

1021
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: cascading all the way throughout the day for like four

1022
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: straight days. I think college football should attempt it. Since

1023
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: this is the day to vote. You being a Michigan alum,

1024
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: and you had to vote Jim Harball at the end

1025
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: of the year. Oh my god, you say, hey, let's

1026
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: resign him, or we say thank you nice parting gifts.

1027
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: This is the way you're framing the question. Yes, this

1028
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: is the framing question. So I'm at the polling place.

1029
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: This doesn't exist, and the item of the referendum on

1030
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: the on the you have your lever pull it do?

1031
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: I say? What do you want? Yes? I want him

1032
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: to stay. How does that sound? I know it has

1033
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: not been at all a successful run in terms of

1034
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 1: national championships and Big Tension ampionships and beating Ohio today.

1035
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: Other than that looks bad. It looks bad um and

1036
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: it is frustrating. It's very, very frustrating to go through

1037
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: saturdays like this. It's painful. You lost Michigan State at home.

1038
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: I'm very well aware that Michigan State team that turned

1039
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: it over seven times against Rutgers did not show up

1040
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: in ann Arbor on Saturday, Dan, I mean, let's be

1041
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: honest that they played mistake free football, which is kudos

1042
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: to them in playing a rivalry game that I wish

1043
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: my school had one in a manner that we saw

1044
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: Michigan State pull it together. Okay, you can, you can

1045
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: blame the coach, But who am I? Who am I hiring?

1046
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: Who am I hiring? Am I hiring T? J? Fleck,

1047
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm hiring Matt Campbell? I mean, who am I hiring?

1048
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: Just for the sake of it? Hasn't worked out with

1049
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: one of those boys? And is my first quarterback? To

1050
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 1: you can't find a quarterback? Whence the last time Michigan

1051
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: had a truly dangerous, impressive first round talent quarterback. I

1052
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 1: think they have one right now. Actually I really do think.

1053
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: I really do. No, no, no, no, I really do.

1054
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: But it's also his second start that's the problem. Like

1055
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: to me, the question I'm going to have and I

1056
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: already have is why didn't this kid have any run

1057
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: last year, certainly when Shaye Patterson was having those two

1058
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: backbreaking turnovers per game that Michigan couldn't afford. You know,

1059
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm I know, you know everyone wants blood, but honestly,

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00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: who who would I hire? I'll flip it to you,

1061
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: like who should Michigan? Are you satisfied if this is

1062
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: going to be status quo because it's been status quo? No,

1063
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not satisfied. I'm not satisfied like nine

1064
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: three is. You know, that's nice for a lot of colleges.

1065
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: But I know I am not satisfied. I do not

1066
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: like every single time Michigan plays that, I have a

1067
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: pit in my stomach. And I look down at my

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00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 1: text and I see every Ohio state friend of mine

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00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: giving me like the googly eyes emoji, like you are

1070
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: you seeing this? Like yes, I am seeing this. I

1071
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: am watching this. It stinks. It is not a lot

1072
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: of fun um And I you know, and I don't

1073
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: understand how Michigan is actually favored at Indiana. And I

1074
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: heard again driving in today you called that a sneaky game.

1075
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: It is not sneaky. I'm not it's not sneaking up

1076
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: on me. It's not. It's not in my rear view.

1077
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: Mirrits right in front of me. I saw how they

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00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: have played. They are inspired. This is going to be

1079
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: again one of their Super Bowls. And Michigan does not

1080
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: play every week as if the opponent is playing them

1081
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: in their super Bowl. And you can chalk that up

1082
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: to coaching. I just don't know who the alternative is.

1083
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: Who is the person that I am hiring Fritzie to

1084
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 1: almost text you on Saturday? Oh no, and I said,

1085
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: And so he text me to say should I text

1086
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: Rich And I go no, no, no, no, no, no no no,

1087
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: don't we do before. I appreciate you being the human

1088
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: shield for Fritzies inanities. I appreciate that. Man. Um. You know,

1089
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: at what point, fritz were you thinking about texting me?

1090
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: Was it right when when it was on the line,

1091
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: when Michigan needed to to score in that two minute

1092
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: drive that took nineteen hours for them to actually pull

1093
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: off one? Was it? I was just going to check

1094
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: him with you, like Sunday night after the Broncos pulled

1095
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: off that comeback over the charger, so you couldn't get

1096
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: back at me about Denver, and I wouldn't. First of all, Todd,

1097
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: I don't take any enjoyment in anything that you find distressing.

1098
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: The only person I do that with is McLevin and

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00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: I love going back at him on his tweets that

1100
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: make no sense, like how many Super Bowls have actually

1101
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: had Pro Bowl wide receivers on them? Not many? That

1102
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: means blode receivers don't mean anything, as if all pro

1103
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it wasn't pro all pro wide receivers, as

1104
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: if that is the only metric by which a quality

1105
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: receiver is measured in being a championship quality like Tyreek Hill,

1106
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: the only guy who could make that route uh in

1107
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl last year look as beautiful as it did. Yes,

1108
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: wasn't a pro. It was an all problems. I know

1109
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: a team that could use some all pro receivers and

1110
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: they play an inn arbor. That's all I'm say. Oh

1111
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: my gosh, Oh my gosh. Here's here's what I will handle.

1112
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: I will handle Dan giving me crap because it literally

1113
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: we are working on our second quarter century of that

1114
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: right now, So I can handle that, especially with him

1115
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: from the state of Ohio. Deep Down, Dan, I don't

1116
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: I don't you do enjoy Michigan's um misery right deep

1117
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: down the Ohio I used to. I used to, I

1118
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: used to. I felt sorry for Michigan when I was

1119
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: at the Ohio State game a couple of years ago.

1120
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: Like I felt sorry for them. Which one was that

1121
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: the sixty j Barrett did not actually get? No, it

1122
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: was the sixty sixty points they gave up. I felt

1123
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: sorry for them. I want, I want the right. I

1124
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: wanted to be a rivalry. No, I would sew it. Okay,

1125
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: what hurt more Michigan State or if you lost to

1126
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: Ohio State or the Michigan State loss? What hurts more?

1127
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: Oh ohow stage? Are you not you? You you should

1128
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: expect to lose Ohio State. No, we don't. No, No,

1129
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: you should. You should know, we should know. We should not. Yes,

1130
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: Michigan State, you lost to Michigan State at home. It's

1131
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: not I'm again aware of you. I'm really gonna take

1132
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: it from you. You will not take it. I will

1133
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: not take it from an IVY league and foot college football.

1134
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: I will not accept that. This aggression will not stand. Dan,

1135
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: it will not. Paula, you have a question for Isaac.

1136
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: Are you glad you came on to me, who wants

1137
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: a piece? Are you glad you came on? Of course? Okay,

1138
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: I always enjoy this Seatan, Do you have a question

1139
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: for Rich let him go? Okay, No, No, it is awesome.

1140
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: Wife does the voiceovers for my program. So we're we're

1141
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: we're a Seaton friendly family. Um, so does Paul you

1142
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,439
Speaker 1: got nothing? Nobody? I'm just glad you came on? You back?

1143
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: Who's Who's yes? McLevin? Does Rich know that Rutgers beat Michigan? Say?

1144
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,439
Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure that that was on. Yeah,

1145
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: he did mention it, and did mention it. Who's on

1146
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: the show? Coming up? We have today Malcolm Jenkins, who

1147
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 1: is going to be covering Antonio Brown, Rick Stroud to

1148
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: talk about the Bucks victory and taking on the Saint

1149
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: Scotpioli for a little bit of a conversation for Trade Deadline,

1150
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: and Ron rivera riverboat. Ron will be awesome, awesome. Tell

1151
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: everybody in the building, we said, alo, is anybody left

1152
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: in the building? Everybody? We're socially distanced. There's not many

1153
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: people left here, but we're here and I look forward

1154
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: to being on after your show, Dan, Thank you buddy.

1155
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: That's Rich Eisen Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick

1156
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,880
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1157
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,240
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1158
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,920
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1159
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,840
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1160
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,080
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