WEBVTT - Matt Frederick on The Matrix 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:29.760 Welcome to Movie Crush, a production of I Heart Radio. Hey, everybody, 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:32.560 Welcome to Movie Crush. Charles W. Chuck Bryant Here Home Studio, 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:37.480 Pot City Market, Atlanta, Georgia. Friday Interview addition, Colleague Edition 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:42.600 Colleague colleague for a long time, for a long time, dude, 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:46.240 like sucking twelve years? Yeah, twelve years. You can curse 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:48.360 on the show, you know, I can? And that exciting. 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.040 I don't even know if I'll be able to do it. 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:53.600 I know, right it had It took getting you sup 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:55.920 for me, But now I like have the worst mouth 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:58.840 on the show. I've heard a couple of episodes that 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:02.280 are a little a little blue, but in the best way. 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:05.120 So some of you might recognize this voice. I'm sitting 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:09.080 down with Matt Frederick, one of my old pals, an 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.440 old colleague. We've been working together for like twelve years, 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:14.360 like I just said, And Matt, you know we all 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:17.080 started out here. Uh. I was a writer and you 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:20.080 were in the video department. Yes, along, you were kind 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:21.800 of one of the first ones, you and Tyler. Is 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:23.840 that right, that's correct? Yeah. I came on as an 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:27.720 intern in two thousand and six. Wow, Yeah, thirteen years ago. 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:30.520 You're an intern. I was an intern. It's adorable, straight 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.680 out of college from what Georgia statee or just state 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.720 Film and Video department, right, So you got a job. 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:38.840 And that's when we were doing videos, and we were 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:42.399 making videos for the web site into the Web and 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.720 then we got bought by Discovery and did like YouTube 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:48.920 stuff and everyone was like, no one wants to see 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:51.400 anybody anymore, dude. Back in the day, we were trying 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.920 to make podcasts that were videos to go on iTunes 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:58.640 because there was a whole section on iTunes for video podcasts. 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:00.560 That's how stuff I don't want you to know I 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:04.560 got started. It was video. Yeah, it was iTunes video podcast. 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:06.920 Well that was the next thing coming out of my mouth. 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:08.760 As you're the one of the co host of stuff 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:11.919 they don't want you to know. You are now a 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:15.360 what's your official title? Executive producer. I'm lead executive producer 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.560 or ep I. I don't know, it's not I'm not 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:20.680 taking credit for anything. But I remember when all these 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:23.519 big transitions were happening, I met with all you guys 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:26.320 who always thought of as like, you know, little brothers, 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:29.639 and said, listen, dudes, which thing changes in the air 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.560 and my advice is get on the audio wagon. I 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.280 remember this clearly because I think that's where it's headed. 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:39.480 And unless you want to go work at another company 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:43.080 and do video, then be an audio producer. And you 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:46.520 all did. Yeah, like everybody. Well, that's the thing about 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:49.400 this place, how stuff works. You know, no matter who 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.240 owns it or you know what entity is at the 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:56.280 top of that name, the people have largely unchanged. And 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:58.720 I think it's because of the people that are here. 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.800 I think you're right. Yeah, I mean, no one was 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.040 like screw this, I'm out of here. Everyone adapted and changed. 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:10.200 Casey you Tyler, Paul, I guess Paul was. I mean 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:13.239 he's he's quote unquote new. Paul is newer. Annie has 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.160 been here. I didn't realize how long any had been here, 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:17.200 which he's been here, what like eight or ten years? 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:20.519 I think nine or ten. Yeah, yeah, that's great man, 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.880 All of you like what we're doing here. For everybody 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:27.800 out there who even cares at all, the house Stuff 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.520 Works team is pretty cool. I think people do care. 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:32.440 I think they like to know that. You know, we've 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:34.080 all been working together a long time and we're all 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:37.560 like invested in each other's lives and like, you've grown 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:39.880 up now. I saw you get married, well, not in person. 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:44.520 I wasn't invited. That's okay. Hey, hey in South Florida, 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:46.960 so I didn't invite you to my wedding here. Uh, 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:49.320 but we've all seen each other get married and have children, 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.880 and our kids are about the same age and just 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:53.840 kind of this really neat thing to see everyone grow up. 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:57.440 You're a grown man now. You were just a child. Yeah, 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:01.240 thirty six as of just a couple of days. It's crazy. 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.000 You guys are always going to be twenty two and 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.720 twenty three years old to me, me too, And that 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.520 means hopefully I'm always going to be thirty six. Well, yeah, 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:12.280 hopefully we can all keep our I forget the actual 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:14.640 title of this or the term for this within the 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:17.960 movie we're gonna talk about today, but our ourselves, our 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:21.800 matrix selves representations. I was your age actually when I 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:27.760 started roughly wow, because I'm forty eight, yeah, twelve thirteen 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.640 years ago. Well sir, you do not look a day 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:34.840 over thirty eight. Please. I didn't have gray hair when 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.680 I started on my beard, Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:41.279 now it's it's there's a lot of it there had 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:44.039 ale my hair when I started. So you're a lead 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.000 EP now and you work, you've still got out of 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.240 your hair. What are you talking about? You get great hair? Uh? 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:50.000 Are you playing drums these days? By the way, I 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.520 am not, man, I want to so badly. So if 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.159 you're listening and you're in the Atlanta area and you 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.440 need a drummer, give me a shout. Do you still 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.720 have a drum set? I do what it's set up. 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:04.559 It is set up. It's in my parents basement. Oh well, 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:06.719 so you have to cover there. Yeah, so you literally 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:10.680 haven't touched drumsticks? And how long? And I every time 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:14.320 I go, like we'd take my son to go see 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.080 I go in the basement for a while. Like I 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.679 just say, honey, everybody, just give me, give me thirty 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:20.520 he'll be back. See. That makes me feel good. That's 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:22.760 what I wanted to hear. It would have really disappointed 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:24.440 me if you're like, yeah, I don't even have any 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:27.880 interest anymore. Oh no, man, No, that you know that 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:29.800 blew my mind. I don't know how many people know 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:33.719 who Connell is the number one important, most important powerful 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:38.279 person in podcasting. Uh yeah, Connall's our boss who literally 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:41.640 commissioned all these podcasts many many years ago. When I 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:43.960 first met him, I was in a meeting in a 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:47.520 place called the fish Bowl, Uh, in our old office. 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.159 He came in to talk to us in Roxanne and 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:54.719 everybody who was there, and he somebody casually mentions or 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:57.080 somehow it it's brought up that he was a touring 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:59.720 musician and he used to be and her touring as 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:03.360 a singer and guitars. And I was like, true, sorry, Oh. 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:05.800 I was like, dude, do you still play You know, 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:07.800 I got my sticks, I got my kids. Let's go man. 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:10.919 And he was just like, I don't play music anymore. 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.720 That's very conal. He's like, yeah, I was. We were 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:18.279 signed to a major label and I was touring through Europe. 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:19.960 But like, no, I don't do that ymore. Don't worry 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:23.320 about that. He's a very talented guy. Seriously. So, now 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.240 you were a lead EP of some of the biggest 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:28.520 shows in podcasting. Uh. You were leadp on Atlanta Monster 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:32.560 and voice that as well. Right, So I don't mean 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:37.400 to correct you. On Atlanta Monster, I was supervising producer, okay, 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.120 And then we'll set the record straight. And then on 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:44.760 the second season, I was host and then became executive 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:48.159 producer on that show too. Okay, and uh, you're now 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.640 working with Aaron Manky, one of the biggest names in podcasting. 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.920 On his stuff, he were assigned his slate because you're 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.200 killer and they knew you do a great job what 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:00.120 you're doing. You know, I think I'm doing a Hey, 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:02.880 I'm still here. That's that's what I'm like basing everything on. 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:06.000 I still have an office. What's new? What's going coming up? 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:09.080 Is there anything can talk about that you want to tease? H? Yeah, 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.120 I can tease a couple of things. If you haven't 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:14.400 listened to Noble Blood yet, I certainly would. And that 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:19.840 is about the royalty. Yeah, it's relatively unknown stories of royalty, 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.360 but told in a very narrative way, even though their 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:25.800 true stories. It's Dana Schwartz who's the host, and she 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:29.080 just does a great job telling you the story in 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.360 a way that flows, similar to the way Aaron Manky 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.840 tells stories on Lore and some of the other shows 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:37.400 Um and also Unobscured, which the first season was all 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:40.520 about the Salem witch Trials. The second season is coming 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:43.040 out later this year around October. Can you say what 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:46.400 it's about yet or is it a secret? Maybe Aaron 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:48.080 keeps a lot of that close to his chest, so 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.000 I would rather not speak to it. But it's really 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:54.600 it's really cool, awesome. I can't wait. You'll tell me off, Mike, right, yeah, okay, 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:58.120 sorry everyone perks of working here. Uh yeah, So man 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:01.080 has become one of like the best leadps we have. 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.800 You're assigned some of the most high profile stuff, and 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:06.679 it's a testament to the work you do, my friend. 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:10.000 Now stop it and thank you. So let's talk the Matrix. 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:13.280 I'm glad you picked this one, and you picked this 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:15.280 one a while ago. I've sort of been well, I'm 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:17.000 holding it for you. No one else asked to do it. 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:20.960 But uh, it's fucking twenty years old, which is crazy 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:24.840 to think about, and I have not seen it. Um. 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:26.320 I was trying to remember the last time I saw 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.800 the Matrix, and I saw it quite a few times 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:32.760 back then, but it's probably been at least fifteen years 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.680 since i've seen it. Oh yeah, I haven't seen it 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:37.640 in a long, long, long, long time. I realized when 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:40.720 I was watching it and the short answer you stopped 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:43.080 by my desk yesterday kind of like a little nervous, 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.719 like did it hold up or not? And boy, it 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:48.880 held up for me. I'll tell you. Last time I 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:53.640 watched it was two thousand three, okay, wow, yeah, yeah. 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:56.200 And I know specifically because my wife had never seen 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.520 it and I at the time she was just my girlfriend. 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:03.199 But I was like, you have never seen the Matrix. 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:07.200 That's pretty unusual. I think. Yeah, So we had a 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:10.520 young American. It's not like she was eight years old 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.559 or like fifty. She was in that wheelhouse. Yeah, when 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:15.840 she was an actor too, and she was plugged into 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.320 you know, pop culture and everything, and I figured it 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:22.440 would be you know, up for her. It wasn't. And 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:27.040 I forget sometimes that it is a serious action sci 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:31.600 fi like movie. Diana not into that stuff. That is 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:34.520 the opposite of what she's looking for. If it's got 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:38.880 Judd Apatow involved or a hilarious person, then that's that 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:41.520 is her wheelhouse. So that makes sense. Did she like 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:46.080 it though when she saw it? I think so. It 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.160 doesn't sound like that we had We had some we 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.120 had some cool discussion, but you know a lot of 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:54.120 times that's me harping on something like we're probably gonna 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:57.120 talk about it later, and then her just going Okay, 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.079 I guess I can see that said, that's a cool 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:04.120 discussion in your house generally, like me, come on, Emily, 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.600 watch the Hangover. We'll have a cool discussion about it. Uh. 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:11.040 It really held up for me, man, it was and 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:14.440 I think in context now, especially to see something that 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:18.520 was twenty years old but so revolutionary at the time. 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:22.360 And it's very easy to forget how revolutionary it was 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:27.440 when so many imitators came after um and and And 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:29.720 it's not like the Matrix was the most original thing ever, 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.640 like they borrowed installed. We might as well talk about 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.640 all that stuff from manga and and any sci fi 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:37.640 movie ever. So it's not like it was the most 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:41.640 original thing ever. Tons of tons of comic book yeah, 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.480 like you said, manga and comic book shots, like you 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:46.880 can just see it. You can see the pages turning 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.400 on the on the screen. And also the story, the 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.640 overall story, if you take out the sci fi stuff, 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:58.240 is a very old story. It's biblical exactly, you know, 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:01.439 it's Jesus in some ways. In a lot of ways, 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:05.120 it's uh, it's almost a superhero origin story in a 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.360 lot of ways. I think it was just at the 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:12.360 time and the way they skinned the movie, it just 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:15.080 felt like something we had never seen before. It's a 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.920 bit of a magic trick they played to seem totally 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.440 fresh and original and new, and all these other people 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:21.959 in the know at the time, we're like, dude, they're 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.520 totally ripping off this, this and this' Think about the 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.680 first thing you see when you start this movie. You know, 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:30.120 it's just showing you the production companies and everything. That 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:34.840 green logo overlay with all that, God, I mean, for me, 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:38.440 that became so iconic. Yeah, just that even that tone, 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.480 that color. Yep, I loved it. I felt all the 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.840 green like, uh, I mean the whole movie is green. 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:48.000 Every I'm sure they just had a green filter over 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:50.960 every single shot of the movie, but that there's something 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:54.920 about them going with that, like pushing all their chips 0:11:54.960 --> 0:12:00.199 in on a color, which is pretty crazy, you know, man, 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:03.000 it's like, let's make a green movie. Yeah, but it's 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:06.000 so iconic now. Well and then, oh man, my wife 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.640 was pulling up trivia because we watched it last night 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:11.040 for the second time. Did she like anybody? She liked 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:12.720 it better? She really did. We were more into it. 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.520 But again, I'm sitting next to her like clacking away 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.600 on my computer taking notes. I'm transcribing most of the 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:21.360 quote I want to talk to you about. I'm just like, oh, 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.719 I forgot about that one. Just feel free to throw 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:25.959 out a quote whatever you come by. Oh yeah, we're 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.160 gonna we're gonna do some monologueing. I think there's some 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:32.880 soliloquies we gotta get into. But um, yeah, I even 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:36.200 forgot where I was because it was just so that 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:39.400 opening scene. We're looking at the trivia and she was 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:41.400 telling me that it took four days to shoot, just 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:45.439 that opening scene from the moment where uh, spoiler alert 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:48.160 do you give spoiler alerts? Everybody here knows where this 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:53.720 is spoiled away? Okay, cool, So it turns out you 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:55.680 didn't look like it for a minute. But it turns 0:12:55.679 --> 0:13:00.160 out so when Trinity is sitting there alone in that 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:03.240 abandoned building that all the police show up, they opened 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:06.280 the door, she's sitting there, and that fight scene that occurs. 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:10.320 One of the first things we see is her doing 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.240 a jump kick. She jumps into the air, spreads her 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:17.040 arms like a sucking spider or something or crane, and 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:20.760 we get that slow motion pan yeah, bullet time. Yeah. Well, well, 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.000 it wasn't called that until later, but sure, yeah, we 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:26.000 get that shot almost off the bat. Yeah, and I 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.400 forgot that that. I mean, I I knew it. I 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:30.480 guess it's just I forgot that they were giving you 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:34.680 that much in the beginning to ramp up the tension, 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:37.920 the jumps from the buildings that you get almost immediately, 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:42.240 and just the badass fighting kinetic and there's so much 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:44.840 energy to it and the black leather and it was 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:49.760 so stylish and like cool and that jump and the 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:52.800 bullet time. Like I remember sitting in the theater and 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:57.199 seeing that happen and feeling like my brain exploded because 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:00.880 it was it's so many people copied it. It's so 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.559 old hat now no one was saying. His daughter they 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.240 watched it together and she was like, oh, that's kind 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.080 of cheesy, and like I've seen that a million times, 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:10.040 Like to see it on screen the very first time 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:12.400 and not knowing you know, I'm a film guy, you're 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:14.720 a film guy, Like, how did they do that? I 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.200 had to stop myself from trying to figure out how 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.240 the funk they did that shot. It felt like seeing 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:24.280 a magic trick and and really, yea, so cool. My 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:28.120 brain exploded in the movie theater. Um, yeah, I mean 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:29.840 right off the bat, they and the other thing that 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:33.040 I kind of forgot. I did voice to text too. 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:34.760 That's some funny. It's like so many of these words 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:37.720 are misspelled, but the steaks are set and it's spelled 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:42.320 like the cut of meat, the steaks, but the stakes 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:44.040 are set right away with that voice over. And I 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.720 don't even remember that voice over at the beginning, with 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:55.080 um Trinity talking to Morpheus. Yeah, we're going to kill him, 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:59.280 but Morphias says he or no way is it Joey pants? Yeah, 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:04.720 I think it's Joey Hants talking to two uh yeah, 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:07.000 Cipher and Trinity. Cipher always forget all the names. Well 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.960 and so okay, Morpheus says he's the one, like they 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:12.320 say it right at the beginning, but the first time 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:13.600 you see the movie, you don't even know what they're 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:18.600 talking about, dude. And for me, that has such interesting 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:25.400 biblical uh meaning there with the betrayer and the savior 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.960 essentially of the guy, like having this conversation at the top. 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.080 It's all over the place in this movie, like the 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:33.520 story is as old as time. Like you said, well, 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:35.400 the movie is so smart to do that because you 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:37.680 don't even know the significance at that moment, but it 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:40.320 is truly significant. Well, and it was one of these 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:43.720 where repeated viewings back in the day where like you 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.760 saw so much more, you understood so much more, even 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:49.160 though it's not a complex movie, like all these little 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:51.840 like teasers along the way, so great. Can I tell 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:53.680 you a little bit about why this movie meant so 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.440 much to me, why I wanted to cover it with you? Absolutely? Okay, 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:00.520 So picture Matt Frederick. You don't know what I look like, 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.720 I'm assuming, but just picture of this thing, but in 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:08.440 corporeal form. He's living in for scythe County, Georgia, coming Georgia. 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.120 That's where is where you growing up? That's me, this guy. Yeah, 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.680 that's where I grew up. And yet you became a 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:18.680 good liberal. Well, well, I'm pretty sure everything happens for 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:23.320 a reason and and what not. Really I don't truly 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.000 believe that. But in this way, it's the the idea 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:29.920 that I had a reaction to my environment, right, and 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:32.480 a lot of times it's a rubber banding effect kind 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:34.360 of thing. I think that's what occurred. And also had 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:37.720 an incredible appearance growing up there who were not from 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:41.760 for Scyth County. Um. Not to look, I'm not poo 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:45.200 pooing you for Sath. It's just you know, there's some 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:46.960 stuff going on up there. Y'all know what it is 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.480 the way the way it is, um. But I was 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:52.480 living there. I had grown up in the church, the 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:58.760 Methodist Church specifically, and I internalized that heavily as I 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:02.840 was becoming teenager, you know, middle school, high school, and 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:08.119 my philosophy was so rooted in the Bible and taking 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:12.480 it literally and reading the stories as though Moses really 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.880 did these things, as though you're talking about me too, 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.720 my child as well. Yeah, yeah, except I was Baptist. 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:20.639 Oh there you go even worse. Well, I don't know 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:27.119 there there's a there's a certain boring quality to Methodist services, 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:31.479 um that I don't see again a lot of Baptist services. 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:33.720 But in anyway, that's just no again, no offense to 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:38.320 you Methodists out there first United Methodist Church, Shambly, Georgia 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:43.800 and uh coming okay, So um, that that's my worldview. 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:49.439 It's very solidified. So because this came out March, I 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:55.200 think March thirty one or March, um, my worldview is 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.399 so solidified that when I walk into that theater to 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:00.960 go see a cool action movie that I'm excited about. 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:04.320 The trailers look great. The taglines have been so crazy cool, 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:07.880 like free your mind? Oh what you only to free 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:09.720 my mind? What is the matrix? I don't know. Let's 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:12.719 go find out what the matrix is? George Clinton Ship seriously, 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:17.040 the matrix has you? Um? So walk into that theater. 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.520 I watched the movie and I couldn't tell you that 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:25.000 I truly remember watching it for the first time. It 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:29.119 felt more like the movie happened to me, um because 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:33.320 it was the first major crack in the armor of 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:36.919 my established word. You where I And again, it's just 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:38.639 a movie. I know it's fiction. I'm in there. I 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:42.680 understand all of that. But it caused me to think, well, 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:45.880 maybe I don't know everything, because I think what religion 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:47.440 a lot of times will do to us is cause 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.040 us to believe that we have the answer, we understand, 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:53.520 like what humans are, what we're meant to do on 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:56.200 this planet, and all these things, and don't don't explore 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:58.000 any further because it's all right here. Yeah you got 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:02.359 the answers already. Uh. This this movie really did move 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:07.480 things in a direction of discovery for me. Wow, that's great. Yeah. Yeah, 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:11.119 for me, it was a religion class in college. Dude, 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.320 I wasn't there yet, but as soon as I took 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:16.320 a religion class in college, that's when things took a 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:20.440 bit of a one eighty. Yeah, that's interesting. We studied Judaism, Hinduism, 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:24.840 and uh jeez, what was the third one? I can't remember. 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:29.240 Judaism and Buddhism. Maybe Buddhism, dude. I remember thinking, oh, 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:31.600 wait a minute. First of all, they're all sort of 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:35.520 the same. How is that possible? Yeah, and yeah, I 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:37.640 learned a lot. It really opened my mind. Oh man, 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:39.480 me too. Yeah. For me, it was a lot of 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:44.240 the um kind of the old old more what would 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:46.720 be considered pagan or like Wicca and some of these 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:50.520 religions that that focus on nature above a lot of 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:54.359 other things that really like just broke me out of 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:57.879 everything because I because I could connect with all the 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:01.199 things that that we're being worshiped in venerated, and I 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:11.639 was like, oh, okay, that kind of makes sense. So 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:15.720 you were sixteen then roughly when this came out. Wow. 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:19.119 And then on my seventeenth birthday, I had a birthday 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:23.520 party at my parents basement. Hopefully there's one person listening 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:26.960 that was at that party. Um, it was my sister 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:31.919 probably listening. She was there. It was a combination Matrix 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:36.360 Steve Irwin party, so you could either come. You could 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:39.920 either come as dresses your matrix self, bring your leather, 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:46.359 or bring your short cargo pants. That's adorable. It was amazing. Wow, 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:48.320 I just I want to put you in my pocket 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:51.359 right now. Well, you'll The other funny thing to remember 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:53.880 about this film too, in context of when it came out, 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:58.919 is a few months before a movie called Episode one, 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:01.800 The Phantom Menace. But yeah, not a good look for 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:07.000 George Lucas to be bested at his own game and preemptively, 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:09.720 you know, when these two directors that I had never 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:14.480 heard of came through and created this thing, and then 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:19.520 it feels like it's old and dated and like this 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:23.439 seems so fresh and like cyberpunk and kinetic and like 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:26.640 cutting edge. And it's like I said, it's easy now 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:29.080 to some people like Noel thought it was a little 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:32.800 dated now to look. But in the context of it 0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:36.919 was right there of the millennium. Oh yeah, you know 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:39.800 it was everyone was thinking about this like stuff. Yes, 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:42.840 it was on everybody's mind. Y t K was was 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:46.720 like that their fear was real. It's crazy to think about. 0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:49.040 But so there are a couple of dated things I 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:51.240 want to hit right here, just because we pushed on that, 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:57.160 um the cell phone that Neo opens that the first time. Yeah, yeah, 0:21:57.200 --> 0:21:59.120 that's great, and my wife was like, oh my god, 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:01.720 that's the cheese. This there's a terrible They couldn't think 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:04.560