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Speaker 1: He's the huddle.

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Speaker 2: Every Thursday from noon to two.

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Speaker 3: The huddle.

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Speaker 4: You are listening to the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpus,

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Speaker 4: and Stacy Roskin. And take just a few minutes here

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Speaker 4: to look back at that Packers loss on Sunday Night football,

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Speaker 4: figure out what went wrong, what they can fix heading

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Speaker 4: into the Spikings game. During this segment, we're going to

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Speaker 4: be joined by Leonard Williams, so we will interrupt ourselves

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Speaker 4: once he comes in here, which could actually be fairly soon.

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Speaker 4: Let's start with this Packers game, h Wyman, this was

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Speaker 4: a game I didn't necessarily feel the Seahawks should win.

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Speaker 4: The Packers are very very good, and the Seahawks defense

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Speaker 4: had really turned things around, but they'd struggled. I wasn't

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Speaker 4: expecting the gap though. I wasn't expecting, you know, the

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Speaker 4: Packers to be quite as dominant. What did you see

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Speaker 4: in this one?

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Speaker 5: I think the biggest problem was those first two drives.

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Speaker 5: They just got bullied up and down the field, and

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Speaker 5: you know, guys that are typically sure tacklers are missing tackles,

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Speaker 5: and you know, like Julian Love, and you know that

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Speaker 5: that was the part I thought after those first two drives.

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Speaker 5: I was like, man, they better do something to match

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Speaker 5: the tempo of this team because they were just so

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Speaker 5: I don't know, they were so sure of how they

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Speaker 5: were running their plays. It was just you know, up

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Speaker 5: and down the field. So that made it a tough beginning.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this was a game in which the Seahawks obviously

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Speaker 4: lost on Sunday night, and they're still in a tight

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Speaker 4: race with the Rams for the NFC West. It may

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Speaker 4: come down to week eighteen, still a couple of weeks

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Speaker 4: left to play, and that'll include a game against the

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Speaker 4: Minnesota Vikings. On the field for that game will be

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Speaker 4: Leonard Williams, so obviously defensive star Leonard. How's it going.

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Speaker 6: It's going well, how are you doing.

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Speaker 4: I'm good. I don't want to spend too much time

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Speaker 4: on the Packers game because we got to look ahead

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Speaker 4: and we want to have some fun, of course, but

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Speaker 4: we were noting throughout the week Bump and I and Dave,

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Speaker 4: I'm sure you did on your show that it felt

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Speaker 4: like things tightened up in the second half and it

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Speaker 4: really was a bummer because it felt more competitive late

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Speaker 4: than the than the box score indicate. It really did.

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Speaker 4: What did you guys change defensively.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think first hitting on what you said is

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Speaker 7: we tightened up in the second half, but we knew

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Speaker 7: they were a team that's you know, started fast, especially

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Speaker 7: on offense, especially when they won the coin toss and

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Speaker 7: decided to receive the ball. Yeah, that's aggressive and that

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Speaker 7: shows that you know, they trust their offense to start

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Speaker 7: the game off fast. So we knew as a defense

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Speaker 7: it was going to be a challenge to go out

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Speaker 7: which we didn't do. So obviously, we came out in

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Speaker 7: the second half and tweaked some things and started playing

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Speaker 7: more aggressive and stopping them in the run, which was

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Speaker 7: the biggest reason why we were able to slow them

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Speaker 7: down is slowing them down in the run game in

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Speaker 7: the second half. But by then it was just too little,

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Speaker 7: too late.

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Speaker 5: Leonard, I always felt like every week going into a

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Speaker 5: game that like, there's always something that you haven't seen before.

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Speaker 5: Was that the case with Green Bay or where they

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Speaker 1: You weren't You weren't either ready for you hadn't seen before.

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Speaker 7: I think the one thing that they came out and

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Speaker 7: did that I was not prepared for. Is they started

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Speaker 7: us off with like screen games or really early on,

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Speaker 7: you know they're trying to get our d line or

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Speaker 7: the defense tired early on, and then you know after that,

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Speaker 7: they were just hurrying up. They were getting on the

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Speaker 7: for being able to operate that fast. And that's one

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Speaker 7: thing that our defense started working on and that we

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Speaker 8: I mean, you're you're having a great season, so you're

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Speaker 8: going to get attention regardless, and your position just requires

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Speaker 2: You're gonna face some double teams.

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Speaker 8: But it felt like when I'm watching the film, like

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Speaker 8: they made it a point like to get double teams

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that's also just part of their run game.

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Speaker 7: I feel like because you know they have a big

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Speaker 7: so their number one run players do which as a

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Speaker 7: three technique, you're going to face majority of the double

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Speaker 7: like saying that my neck is still sore from playing

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Speaker 7: like thirty double teams last week.

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Speaker 1: A lot, Yeah, there was a lot.

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Speaker 4: There was a lot you've been having, as bumpdoted in

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Speaker 4: unreal stretch of games. And it's not that you haven't

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Speaker 4: always been clearly a very good player, but I think

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Speaker 4: if guys get in just stretches where you're like, man,

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Speaker 4: this guy could be NFC defensive player, Like every week,

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Speaker 4: is there something for you with this defense that just

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Speaker 4: kind of, you know, clicked where I don't know, maybe

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Speaker 4: like finally a full calendar year with a new team, Like,

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Speaker 4: is there something that felt different?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I mean I've talked about that with you know, friends,

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Speaker 7: family and my fiance and things like that. Of you know,

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Speaker 7: even seeing players like Sam Donald where you know, sometimes

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Speaker 7: being in a different environment, different coaching staff, different fan base,

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Speaker 7: all these type of things can affect someone's play. And uh,

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Speaker 7: you know, although I think of myself as a you know,

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Speaker 7: I've been a good player in this league for you know,

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Speaker 7: the amount of time I've been in it for ten years.

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Speaker 7: You know, I still feel like I'm playing some of

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Speaker 1: And there's something.

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Speaker 7: About the air out here with all these trees that

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Speaker 7: gives me extra oxygen or something like that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: That's real.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 2: When you when you're from La.

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Speaker 8: I'm from La. When you step off the plane, is

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Speaker 8: it smells different?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Chris, it's Chris.

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Speaker 7: So some guys complain about the weather and things like that,

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Speaker 7: and I'm like, man, I love this weather. It's like

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Speaker 5: I remember when I first got heroes, Like there's like

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's just amazing how different it is. Hey,

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Speaker 5: I want to take you back to the interception. I

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Speaker 5: know I talked to you after the game, But that

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Speaker 5: pick six, I think the most impressive thing was how

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Speaker 7: Thought, yeah, exactly, yeah, I mean, I guess if I'm

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Speaker 7: that play where you know, I've complained about dropping as

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Speaker 1: Like, Coach, like what I do good is rush?

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Speaker 6: Like why are you making me drop?

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Speaker 7: You know, stuff like that, And like usually I'll also

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Speaker 7: I don't have to like do the long drop, right,

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Speaker 7: And this specific play, like me and jery Red just

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Speaker 7: Out, and I just remember the ball coming out there.

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Speaker 7: I reached out, had long enough arms to poke. The

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Speaker 7: And like you said, I like, out of my pariff

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Speaker 7: So I'm just like, okay, just make sure you catch

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Speaker 1: Was Jery reed mad at you first switcher?

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Speaker 7: No, he was. He was happy for me, but we

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Speaker 7: obviously joked about it after. He was like, man, that

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Speaker 8: I was putting myself in Aaron Rodgers's position. I go, man,

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Speaker 8: you get your two bigs right there, Your edge rushers

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Speaker 8: are walked up right. There's no way you're thinking you

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Speaker 8: would have thrown the slant too. Man, he's got your

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Speaker 8: So you're a leader on this team, man, And you know,

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Speaker 8: when I sit up in the press box and then

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Speaker 8: I'll just I'll put my binoculars on. I'll just zone

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Speaker 8: it on a player, you know, for every sing, not

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Speaker 2: ELS want to check and see what everybody's doing.

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Speaker 8: And you seem like you chatter a little bit with

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Speaker 8: your teammates with and with the with the other team,

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Speaker 8: like what's your personality out there on the fullall field,

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Speaker 8: because you seem like a chill dude right here.

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Speaker 2: But when I zoom in on you, it's a bit

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you know, since we have a new

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Speaker 7: coaching staff and then also still a lot of new

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Speaker 7: players that I've you know, I only got here last year.

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Speaker 7: So even though I got here in the middle of

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Speaker 7: But there's still is a little bit of a learning curve.

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Speaker 7: And I remember way back to camp when we had

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Speaker 7: just like I'm just ingrained in my head to like

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Speaker 4: Leonard Williams kind of have to join us for the huddle.

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Speaker 3: This this is the huddle every Thursday from noon to

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Speaker 4: You are listening to the huddle. Joining us now, George

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Speaker 4: Holani and uh and George. This is a really, really

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Speaker 1: So that's how we see it. What our rookie I

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Speaker 8: I know we're in Washington, but off from Cali you

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Speaker 9: You know, we had my class, I think we had

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Speaker 2: Who's your sister.

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Speaker 4: Rules.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, what were some of the other choices you

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, Boise statement in the college football playoffs. I'm

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Speaker 8: I know your favorite play is whatever gets you the football,

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Speaker 1: Georgia.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're a cat guy. I was just gonna say,

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Speaker 5: I just became a cat guy. Well I got married

443
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Speaker 5: a long time ago, but that's when I became a

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Speaker 5: cat guy.

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Speaker 1: I was a dog guy, but you're a cat guy.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I used to be, uh a dog guy as well.

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Speaker 9: And so you know, I met my girl and then

449
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Speaker 9: see I kats and then kind of just rubbed off

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Speaker 9: on me for sure.

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Speaker 5: You know what I appreciate about them is that they

452
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Speaker 5: hunt for sport. That's pretty badass.

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Speaker 4: I like that. George, Okay, George, we're gonna let you go.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna let you get out of here. Thank you

455
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Speaker 4: so much for taking the time, man. We really appreciate it.

456
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Speaker 4: The three of us are going to continue our vikings

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Speaker 4: preview coming your way. Next. This is the huddle.

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Speaker 3: This, this is the huddle every Thursday from noon to

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Speaker 3: two on Seattle's Sports.

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Speaker 4: You are listening to the huddle and we're starting our

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Speaker 4: vikings preview. Time for a look ahead. Let's kick that

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Speaker 4: Sunday night lost for the Packers to the curb. I'll

463
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Speaker 4: start with you bump. Minnesota is fifteenth in rushing offense,

464
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Speaker 4: and that's pretty much the only thing I could find

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Speaker 4: where I was like, well, that's not so that sounds

466
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Speaker 4: pretty good. Everything else is stellar. I mean, this is

467
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Speaker 4: a twelve and two team that has an excellent defense,

468
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Speaker 4: two excellent wide receivers. They will pack a punch. I'm

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Speaker 4: very nervous about this upcoming game. But let's talk about

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Speaker 4: what's been working and maybe you know where there's some

471
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Speaker 4: opportunities for Seattle. As far as what's been working, you

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Speaker 4: can't start the conversation without looking at Sam Donald, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah.

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Speaker 8: Sam Donald is one of the stories of the NFL.

475
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Speaker 8: A guy who was drafted by one of the worst

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Speaker 8: organizations in all the land, bounced around to a couple

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Speaker 8: of teams with the Panthers, then the forty nine ers

478
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Speaker 8: and found a home here and was paid ten million

479
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Speaker 8: dollars a year just to be the back of Essentially,

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Speaker 8: JJ goes down, has to have a surgery on his

481
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Speaker 8: knee and he starts the season hot and people don't

482
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Speaker 8: want to believe in it. And he has shown that

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Speaker 8: if you surround him with good talent, he can make

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Speaker 8: things happen. And I feel like there's a lot of

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Speaker 8: quarterbacks who haven't gotten the opportunity that Sam Donald has

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Speaker 8: gotten that would have performed at a high level if

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Speaker 8: they were surrounded with talent. We're seeing brock Perdy do

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Speaker 8: that and he's having it down Yere because the talent

489
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Speaker 8: has been banged up. So I think Sam Donald is

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Speaker 8: a perfect example of this.

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Speaker 2: Is the complete team sport.

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Speaker 8: Talent around you can uplift you, or the quarterback can

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Speaker 8: uplift the talent.

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Speaker 2: It has to work either way.

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Speaker 8: Right now, he's just in his zone and he's so

496
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Speaker 8: calm in the pocket. He understands the offense. He's great

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Speaker 8: under center, which I love.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 8: I me being a receiver and when I started coaching football,

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Speaker 8: I used to love shotgun.

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Speaker 2: I still love shotgun.

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Speaker 8: I think there are some benefits, but when you're under

503
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Speaker 8: center and you can run the ball and use that

504
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Speaker 8: play action, the influence of the defense is just crazy.

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Speaker 2: And Kevin O'Connell loves him under center.

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Speaker 8: I pointed out to Stacey earlier, Dave, ninety percent of

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Speaker 8: the time when they're in shotgun, they're throwing the football,

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Speaker 8: it's second and nine, it's third and long, like there's

509
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Speaker 8: no there's no hide in it, and he just seems

510
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Speaker 8: like he's in complete control. And it's fun to watch

511
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Speaker 8: man because when the season started, Dave, I said this

512
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Speaker 8: is gonna be good for Sam Darnold and they laughed

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Speaker 8: at me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look at him now, well.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I guess if you look at his past,

516
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Speaker 5: it's easy to laugh at that, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: We had a whole discussion about that, and it's dems

519
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Speaker 5: from Bob Stelton and Brock Hewart having a little disagreement

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Speaker 5: about you know, Sam Donald and Brock's been talking about

521
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Speaker 5: him for a long time, and it's just weird to

522
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Speaker 5: me that somebody you know, And I think it brings

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Speaker 5: to light like how important coaching is, because obviously O'Connell

524
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Speaker 5: is saying something to Sam Donald that's clicking for him

525
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Speaker 5: because you know, you look at his even having won

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Speaker 5: what are they twelve and two, you know, he still

527
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Speaker 5: has a negative record in his career. I mean, he

528
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Speaker 5: lost a ton of games and lots of interceptions, and

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Speaker 5: it's just very fascinating to me. And really this year,

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Speaker 5: I mean you've got Baker Mayfield. Look at Jared Golf.

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Speaker 5: I mean that guy went eighteen for eighteen against US

532
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Speaker 5: and he you know, they basically kicked him out of

533
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Speaker 5: LA and mcveigh's system. So yeah, I just I think

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Speaker 5: it's very interesting.

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Speaker 1: I believe it.

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Speaker 5: But I mean I guess, like I said, I think

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Speaker 5: it really brings to light the coaching and just saying

538
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Speaker 5: the right words to the right you know, teaching a

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Speaker 5: guy the right way. It's it's very it's a very

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Speaker 5: interesting thing that hopefully doesn't you know, bite us in

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Speaker 5: the backside here because he's having a really good year

542
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Speaker 5: and I mean he's got eleven interceptions, but Matt, he's

543
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Speaker 5: been sacked forty two times and he's still with what

544
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Speaker 5: sixty eight sixty seven percent completion percentage. Yeah, and they

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Speaker 5: throw the ball a lot. So it's very very fascinating

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Speaker 5: to me.

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Speaker 4: Conversations about coaching. When we talk about Sam Darnold and

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Speaker 4: the Vikings understandably center around Kevin O'Connell, who's a favorite

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Speaker 4: for Coach of the year, rightfully so. But if we

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Speaker 4: talk about coordinators and coaching there we've got Brian Flores' defense.

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Speaker 4: This is a number five passing defense in terms of sacks,

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Speaker 4: limiting yardage, bump. You've noted they're crazy turnover stats. I'm

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Speaker 4: going to start with you again and go to Dave

554
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Speaker 4: with just what you guys are seeing with this defense

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Speaker 4: and what kind of challenge it's going to present for Seattle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Those those backers are good, man. Those backers are really good.

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Speaker 8: They use them a lot in the blitz game. They're

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Speaker 8: one of the the higher percentages when it comes to blitz.

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Speaker 8: I believe they blitz about thirty six percent, which is

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Speaker 8: top one or two in the league. They blitz from depth.

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Speaker 8: They're multiple. When you look at their fronts. On the

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Speaker 8: back end, they're good. You have a Griffin on one side,

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Speaker 8: you got Stefan Gilmour on the other side, who I

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Speaker 8: kind of forgot about, right. He had that run with

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Speaker 8: New England and he bounced around like four teams in

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Speaker 8: four different years.

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Speaker 2: It seems like he's found his home.

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Speaker 8: And Brian Flores, I think he understands his personnel and

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Speaker 8: he's extremely aggressive when it comes to play. Colin Like,

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Speaker 8: these guys are the dogs barking on the other side

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Speaker 8: of the fence, but when you open the fence, they're

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Speaker 8: really gonna bite you. Whereas you know, back in my day,

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Speaker 8: there's some dogs who all that bark you open that fence,

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Speaker 8: they ain't bite nobody.

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Speaker 2: But these dudes are taking on.

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Speaker 8: Kind of the personality of Brian Flores and it should

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Speaker 8: be interesting.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 8: I want to see how the offensive line handles the

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Speaker 8: blitz that they're gonna see because they're gonna come from

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Speaker 8: depth and they're the lineup tight. They do a whole

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Speaker 8: bunch of stuff that I think makes a difficult pre

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Speaker 8: snet for the office in line in the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Hey, why, I mean, I want to stick with the defense.

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Speaker 4: And I misspoke earlier. I said they were a top

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Speaker 4: five passing defense, which they're not. They're top five in

588
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Speaker 4: sacks at number five, and they're number one interceptions. In

589
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Speaker 4: terms of passing yards allowed, they're actually the fourth worst.

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Speaker 4: Now they're an excellent defense, so I say fourth worst

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Speaker 4: take it with a grain of salt, But is this

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Speaker 4: a defense that just capitalizes on turnovers and big plays, right,

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Speaker 4: because they're not like locking down receivers and quarterbacks. They're

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Speaker 4: just really I don't know, they're they're stifling people with

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Speaker 4: big moments, right yea, yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean that they're plus eight in the turnover ratio

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Speaker 5: and we're minus five, and that's the killer. And then

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Speaker 5: you know, they just got certain guys playing really well.

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Speaker 5: I was watching that Josh Mintallas. I mean, he is

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Speaker 5: just all over the field. Never really heard of him before,

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Speaker 5: I'll be honest, I haven't, and he's just a really

602
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Speaker 5: really good player. And you know, they're getting a lot

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Speaker 5: out of the guys they have, so yeah, it's coach team.

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Speaker 5: I Mean, the thing that bothers me when I look

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Speaker 5: at their record is they beat the Packers, and they

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Speaker 5: have the Packers left on their schedule, so they beat

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Speaker 5: the Packers and then you know, they lost to the

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Speaker 5: Lions and the Rams, so that that's kind of like them,

609
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Speaker 5: Like how they lose to the Rams. They're playing really well,

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Speaker 5: and it bothers me because that's the last game. Yeah, obviously,

611
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Speaker 5: but but yeah, it just seems like it's a very

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Speaker 5: well coached team, and yeah, they take the ball away

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Speaker 5: a ton. I think they have twenty eight takeaways. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's it's going to be a challenge. It's going to

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Speaker 5: be much like it was last week.

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Speaker 4: It's not the first time the Seahawks will be underdogs

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Speaker 4: in a game, and they have one as underdogs, as

618
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Speaker 4: have many teams around the league. Bump when you go

619
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Speaker 4: in with the rest of the world thinking you're not

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Speaker 4: going to win. What typically needs to go right in

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Speaker 4: this case, specifically for Seattle, Like what's going to need

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Speaker 4: to go right on Sunday for Seattle to walk out

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Speaker 4: with a win.

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Speaker 2: Often it's got to step it up.

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Speaker 8: You know, defense had a slow star last game but

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Speaker 8: figured it out. But it feels like Gino hasn't had

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Speaker 8: our Gino didn't have in the last game, obviously his

628
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Speaker 8: best game, and the run game didn't even going. There

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Speaker 8: has to be a game where the run in the

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Speaker 8: past are working at the same time.

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Speaker 2: I think Gino.

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Speaker 8: We said this before on this show plenty of times

633
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Speaker 8: this year, Dave, like, Gino just has to go for

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Speaker 8: like two fifty two point fifty one or two touchdowns,

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Speaker 8: no interceptions, run game gets over one hundred. I feel

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Speaker 8: like the defenses now can now it's now capable of

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Speaker 8: kind of taking a charge in and creating the identity

638
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Speaker 8: of the game. But we still haven't seen the run

639
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Speaker 8: game in the past. Game get going, and I'm waiting.

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Speaker 8: I'm starving. I need to see it.

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Speaker 5: Maybe maybe the closest to the Arizona game. Down in Arizona,

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Speaker 5: I think, yeah, Atlanta, they were like within four or five.

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Speaker 1: Plays as far as fifty to fifty goes.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, that's that's kind of what we what we

645
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 5: need to see. But you know, an offensive line, I

646
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Speaker 5: feel like, you know, they played really well in that

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Speaker 5: game against Arizona, so I know they've taken a lot

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Speaker 5: of criticism, and I know my.

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Speaker 1: Talked about that afterwards.

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Speaker 5: He said, yeah, we've been we've been criticized at our

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Speaker 5: offensive line.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking, I hope he wasn't listening to Whine

653
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Speaker 1: and Bob.

654
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Speaker 4: Maybe the podcast rightfully.

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Speaker 5: So I mean, look, it's it's it's been an adventure,

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Speaker 5: and especially if you look at you know, I feel

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Speaker 5: like going well, of course it's a struggle offensive line wise.

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Speaker 5: You went to your fourth string right tackle. How many

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Speaker 5: guys at right guard? Three, two or three at center.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's been it's been tough. And Tomlinson

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Speaker 5: and Cross. I don't think I've had had the years

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Speaker 5: that they that they want, but but those two have

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Speaker 5: been solid.

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Speaker 1: They've been in there the whole time.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I just I think it's when you lose

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Speaker 5: that many guys, it's going to be a tough go.

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Speaker 4: We'll jump back into this part of the conversation with

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Speaker 4: Ray Roberts and keep focusing like bumps out on what

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Speaker 4: the offense needs to do. Coming up next, we'll hear

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Speaker 4: from the quarterback Gino Smith. Don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 3: This This is the huddle every Thursday from noon to

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Speaker 3: two on Seattle Sports.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to Battle with Dave Wyman, Michael Bumpa, San

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Speaker 4: Stacy Ross speaking. Now it's quarterback, you know Smith, Let's

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Speaker 4: take a listen.

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Speaker 1: Well, how are you feeling?

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Speaker 11: You know, uh, yeah, I'm getting better every day, you know,

678
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Speaker 11: looking forward to Sunday.

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Speaker 10: When you got your leg twisted, you fear something worse.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I was definitely like one of those scary

681
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Speaker 11: falls where you know, just didn't know what was going on,

682
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Speaker 11: but definitely didn't feel stable enough to get back out there.

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Speaker 12: Mike said, you were, you know, trying at some point

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Speaker 12: to get back in. Just what are those conversations like

685
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Speaker 12: where obviously you want to be out there, but you're

686
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Speaker 12: also trying to take care of yourself.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I think that's the toughest thing, is like, you know,

689
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Speaker 11: trying to fight the competitiveness, you know. Uh, you know

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Speaker 11: once before I told my a cl and actually was

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Speaker 11: trying to go back in that game, you know, so

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Speaker 11: you know, I'm always gonna you know, be precautionary, you know,

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Speaker 11: just because I feel like I tolerate pain well and

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Speaker 11: if I can do anything to get back out there,

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Speaker 11: I will. You know, just felt like, you know, it's

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Speaker 11: a decision made that you know it was best to

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Speaker 11: not you know, you know, risk it anymore.

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Speaker 13: There was a moment there where it looked like you

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Speaker 13: grabbed your helm and you were ready to go back

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Speaker 13: on the field, And did you feel like.

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Speaker 6: You were about to? Yeah, I was trying.

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Speaker 11: I was trying to, you know, I was trying my

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Speaker 11: best to get out there, just you know, had to

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Speaker 11: make a decision in that moment.

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Speaker 10: And just to clarify, do you do you expect to

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Speaker 10: play something?

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Speaker 6: You know, Yes, I do.

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Speaker 10: Is it accurate to say you gonna be less than

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Speaker 10: a hundred percent not fully recovered?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean we've been you know, a lot of

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Speaker 11: guys are less than one hundred percent. I've you know,

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Speaker 11: been that way, you know, pretty much the majority of

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Speaker 11: the season. That's just the way the NFL goes. But

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Speaker 11: no excuse is got to go out there and perform.

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Speaker 10: Do you know you you pop back up there initially?

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Speaker 12: Did you know right away it was his biggest thing

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Speaker 12: or did it take a couple of seconds to kind

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Speaker 12: of ring thirty of it?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, once I put pressure on it and got up

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Speaker 11: and stuff.

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Speaker 6: You know, I just you know, felt it there.

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Speaker 14: What did you think of how the offense was performing

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Speaker 14: before you got hurt?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I thought we uh, I thought we were moving

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Speaker 11: the ball. It seems like all year, right like twenty

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Speaker 11: to twenty, man, we moved the ball.

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Speaker 6: We're we're doing a lot of good things.

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Speaker 11: In the play action game, you know, we ran the

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Speaker 11: ball pretty well, got a couple you know, big runs

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Speaker 11: when I was in there, and I just felt like

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Speaker 11: we didn't finish again, you know, in the red zone.

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Speaker 11: Once we get you know, past the fifty yard line,

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Speaker 11: we got to execute a little bit better there. So

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Speaker 11: I just felt like we didn't finish when we had

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Speaker 11: our opportunities early on.

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Speaker 14: How do you feel about that that part of the

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Speaker 14: game is where you guys are not consistent, particularly at

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Speaker 14: this time of year.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's just something to work on, man. It's something

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Speaker 11: that we gotta strive to perfect. We gotta get better

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Speaker 11: at it. You know, We've got to execute better. It

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Speaker 11: always goes back to that. I always say this, man,

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Speaker 11: like the coaches can only do so much for us.

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Speaker 11: We got to go out there and we gotta play

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Speaker 11: the game. And so yeah, it's something that I'm working

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Speaker 11: hard on, studying and doing everything I can to make

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Speaker 11: sure that we can get better in that area. It's

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Speaker 11: something that I feel like we definitely need in order

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Speaker 11: to go where we want to go.

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Speaker 12: When you do, you know, when you look back on

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Speaker 12: the interception, what what stood out to you about that

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Speaker 12: about that play?

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Speaker 1: Maybe what you saw a.

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Speaker 2: Field with that one?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean the corner was man doubs man coverage

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Speaker 11: one double. They were doublin DK, so basically cover zero

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Speaker 11: for everyone else to the field. I felt like Noel

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Speaker 11: won on this route, you know, I gave him a

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Speaker 11: ball that was catchable, and the corner wheel back he

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Speaker 11: was covering lock will back and made a heck of

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Speaker 11: a play. You know, always gonna say that. You know,

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Speaker 11: I got the ball, I got the decisions to make,

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Speaker 11: and whenever it's an interception, you know it's gonna be

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Speaker 11: graded as a negative decision. You know, if that guy

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Speaker 11: to make that play and Noah catches a touchdown, then

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Speaker 11: you know it's a positive. So I think again, just

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Speaker 11: focusing on the process, making sure I'm reading the right things,

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Speaker 11: right keys, and you know, doing the right things, and

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Speaker 11: most importantly protecting the football.

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Speaker 12: Minnesota's defense obviously has been doing a lot of things

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Speaker 12: well this season.

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Speaker 15: Just what when you put on the tape, what jumps up?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I mean they're first of all up front.

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Speaker 11: Man, just got a lot of stout guys up front,

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Speaker 11: a lot of veteran guys in their secondary. They do

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Speaker 11: a lot as far as you know, personnel, different fronts.

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Speaker 11: They like to show you a lot of different blitz looks,

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Speaker 11: try to confuse the quarterback in that way. I think

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Speaker 11: they have a you know, a really good scheme, really

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Speaker 11: good playing Coach Flores has done a great job with

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Speaker 11: those guys. You know, it's something that we've been you know,

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Speaker 11: kind of similar to Arizona, you know, where it's gonna

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Speaker 11: be like blitch bluff bandits a period that we have

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Speaker 11: in practice. And uh is it cover zero? Are they

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Speaker 11: going back to cover two? Are they spinning it to

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Speaker 11: cover three? A lot to decipher try to put pressure

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Speaker 11: on the quarterback in that way.

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Speaker 6: Uh, they've done a great job.

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Speaker 10: How did did things change?

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Speaker 3: It?

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Speaker 7: All?

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Speaker 13: I told who got hurt? And you had that go

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Speaker 13: with Jalen? Or how did you feel like kind of things?

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Speaker 11: You know, I thought Jalen did an outstanding job. You know,

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Speaker 11: all along we've always spoken highly of him, and uh,

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Speaker 11: he's been so professional. He's he's a young guy, but

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Speaker 11: he's got you know, such a wise demeanor to him,

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Speaker 11: and so you know, I thought he stepped in, he

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Speaker 11: was calm, you know, I thought he you know that

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Speaker 11: that one touchdown that sharp and they had you saw

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Speaker 11: him out there leading that and uh, you know, he

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Speaker 11: knew the assignment. He was getting the guys lined up.

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Speaker 11: You know, he's communicating well and I was really happy

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Speaker 11: for him to get out.

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Speaker 6: There and show what he's got.

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Speaker 10: What challenge has three different Centers presented you this year.

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Speaker 11: Uh, you know, it's it's football, man. You got guys

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Speaker 11: in and out the lineup. Uh, we would like to

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Speaker 11: have a lot more stability there, but that's that's the

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Speaker 11: way the game goes.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 11: Guys are fighting their butts off and at times, you know,

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Speaker 11: get injured and other guys that got to step up.

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Speaker 11: So you know the challenge is to to go out

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Speaker 11: there and execute no matter who's out there. And uh,

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Speaker 11: that's something that I take. So there'll never be an

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Speaker 11: excuse or anything like that for me.

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Speaker 4: How was your visit uh at the Chunton's Hospital.

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Speaker 3: Earlier this street.

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Speaker 11: Uh, that was that was awesome. You know, I was

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Speaker 11: right after the injury. I I was able to go

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Speaker 11: out there and you know s you know, see the

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Speaker 11: kids and you know for.

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Speaker 6: About a hour.

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Speaker 11: I wanted to be there for two hours, but you know,

828
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Speaker 11: obviously had to get back to recovery.

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Speaker 6: But you know, I.

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Speaker 11: Felt like it was healing me, you know, just being

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Speaker 11: around uh all those smiling faces and uh, you know,

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Speaker 11: being able to kind of spread some Christmas cheer, some

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Speaker 11: holiday cheer.

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Speaker 15: Uh.

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Speaker 11: Man, It's it's just one of those things where you know,

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Speaker 11: as an athlete. It just warms your heart, you know,

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Speaker 11: the more that you can go out there and do

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Speaker 11: those things and and be a part.

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Speaker 6: Of the community. Uh, uplift people, you know, it's it's

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Speaker 6: what it's all about.

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Speaker 10: The first time you had to seay Ottle Children's with

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Speaker 10: Russell Wilselm. No it wasn't in s in Seattle. No. No,

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Speaker 10: what do you get out of that personally?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, just like I said, just being able

845
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Speaker 11: to number one, you know, uplift you know those in need.

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Speaker 11: You know a lot of kids have to spend their

847
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Speaker 11: holidays and hospital you know, you can just think about,

848
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Speaker 11: you know how trying that is for them and their families.

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Speaker 11: And there's one specific kid who couldn't leave his room

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Speaker 11: that I was able to go and you know, deliver

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Speaker 11: some gifts to him. And he's a big Seahawk fan,

852
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 11: big dk Metcalf fan, and uh, you know, it's just

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00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 11: one of those things where for me, the more that

854
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 11: I can get out and just lend a helping hand,

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00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 11: try to put some smiles on some faces, you know,

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Speaker 11: be a part of the community.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 11: This this community that that supports us so well and

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Speaker 11: that we represent just means the world you know, really

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Speaker 11: means the world. I know, my mom's happy, my grandmother's

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Speaker 11: happy that I'm able to do that.

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Speaker 10: What's the most memory reaction again to remember.

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Speaker 6: A long time.

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Speaker 11: Uh, it was, uh, you know, just the kids seeing Santa.

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Speaker 11: You know, a couple of kids were saying, you know,

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Speaker 11: because a lot of people go down to the mall

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Speaker 11: and they take pictures with Santa, and uh, the kids

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Speaker 11: are like, no, we can stay here. You know, Santa's

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Speaker 11: coming to see us. And you know, just with the

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Speaker 11: kids to be able to you know, tell Santa what

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Speaker 11: they wanted for Christmas, and you know, for me to

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Speaker 11: be a part of that and just help them, you know,

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Speaker 11: try to uplift their spirits. I mean that's that's what

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Speaker 11: you know means the most of.

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Speaker 10: Me as a team talk about that because there's a

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Speaker 10: lot of players that are doing that there. You want

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Speaker 10: to echo Bland and is that something in manifest and discuss.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think all the guys you know, you know,

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Speaker 11: and you talk about Chenna, you know, being the Walter

880
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 11: Payton Man of the Year nominee and just the stuff

881
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 11: that he's done in the community.

882
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 6: But we all want to strive for that.

883
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 11: That's something that I want to be nominated for you know,

884
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 11: we all want to be a part of the community

885
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 11: and uh, you know, we want to be supportive because

886
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 11: they're so supportive of us, and so we all in

887
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 11: the locker room on the team want to be a

888
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 11: big part of the community.

889
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: Uh.

890
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 11: They mean so much to us, and we want to

891
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 11: continue to, like, you know, bring that together.

892
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 9: You know, much has been made throughout the season about

893
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 9: the number of opposing fans at the midfield.

894
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 10: I know, you waiting and A waiting on.

895
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 14: It a little bit out of the Buffalo game, DK

896
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 14: waiting on it yesterday.

897
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 10: I'm just curious now that you just got one home

898
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 10: game left, what have you thought about that situation and

899
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 10: what would you like to see different?

900
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 11: You know, one thing about it, Like when I was

901
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 11: on other teams, you know, before I got to the league.

902
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 6: Uh, there was all.

903
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 11: Always always the aura of the of the twelfth Man,

904
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 11: and playing in Seattle has always been like a tough

905
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 11: task for anybody, and I think it still is, you know,

906
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 11: as far as like opposing fans and ticket sales. I mean,

907
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 11: you can't really control that, you know, that's not in

908
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 11: our control. But what we can do is go out

909
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 11: there and be the best team at home, you know,

910
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 11: and give our fans something to cheer about, give them

911
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 11: something to you know, want to pack the stadium and

912
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 11: be a part of it. And like I said, they've

913
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 11: been that, you know since I've been here before I

914
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 11: got here, and I think that'll be long after I'm gone.

915
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 11: You know, this fan base is one of the best.

916
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 11: And like I said, man, the more we win, the

917
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 11: more that atmosphere gets crazier and crazier. So that's something

918
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 11: that we're building, we're working towards.

919
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 13: Like on Monday said that you were back in. You

920
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 13: were back in just kind of doing your regular routine

921
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 13: and everything, your workout and stuff like that. Yes, sir, yeah,

922
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 13: I mean so from from the start of the week,

923
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 13: you kind of had it in your mind that you'd

924
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 13: be able to overcome.

925
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 10: Us and kind of play.

926
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

927
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, honestly, I you know, I really wanted

928
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 11: to get back out there on Sunday. But you know,

929
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 11: these things happen, man, Like everybody's gonna fight through something,

930
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 11: and uh, you know, I wanna be be the guy

931
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 11: who's known for, you know, pushing through and so I

932
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 11: wanna finish the season h on the r on the

933
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 11: right note, and I wanna, you know, make sure that

934
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 11: we get every opportunity we can to uh close it out.

935
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 6: The right way.

936
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 10: What what do you think of the play itself.

937
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: That you got hurt on.

938
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 11: I mean, there's a lot to be thought of. You know, Honestly,

939
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 11: they didn't call it flag, so I'm not complaining.

940
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 6: It is what it is.

941
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 14: Considering where you guys are in the playoff picture and

942
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 14: how many games are left, it feel like there's a

943
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 14: sense of urgency this week to win against the Vikings,

944
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 14: particularly since your last home game as well.

945
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, there's definitely a sense of urgency. And uh

946
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 11: that's every week, you know, that's every week. We gotta

947
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 11: take that approach every single week. We've been all we've

948
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 11: been talking about being in playoff, molding all those things.

949
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 11: But yeah, last home game, big game against a really

950
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 11: good team. We look forward to it and uh, you know,

951
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 11: our last home game of the season possibly. Uh so

952
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 11: we'll we'll, we'll see how it goes. But yeah, we

953
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 11: wanna make sure that we go out there and we

954
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 11: put on a good show for our fans.

955
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 7: But do you know, as a leader of this team,

956
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 7: how much you take it up out yourself to get

957
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 7: back on the field left of injuries, prepare after.

958
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 10: Losses, those kinds of things. How much of that do

959
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 10: you take upon yourself.

960
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think that's a big part of the NFL.

961
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 6: You know, It's it's the ups and downs of it.

962
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 11: It's the you know, the wins, the losses, the injuries,

963
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 11: the next the bruises. You know, those are the things

964
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 11: that make this game so special. It's the adversity that

965
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 11: you face and you got to push through, you know.

966
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 11: I think I'm a living example of some of that,

967
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 11: and uh, you know, I just want to continue to

968
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 11: be the same way. You know, if I can go

969
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 11: out there and help my guys in any way, shape

970
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 11: or form, that's something I'm gonna do. I'm always gonna

971
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 11: try and push through injury. I was just I've always

972
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 11: been that way, you know. I just want to go

973
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 11: out there. I love playing the game, and uh, you know,

974
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 11: I just want to make sure that I'm you know,

975
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 11: giving myself every opportunity to be successful, but also my teammates.

976
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 11: And that's a big part of it. Like you said, man,

977
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 11: just pushing through things and being available.

978
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 4: We are going in the trenches with Ray Roberts next.

979
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: This is the huddle.

980
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 3: Every Thursday from Mune to to.

981
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: The Huddle of.

982
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 4: The trenches with Ray Roberts. Ray, how's it going the coron?

983
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: All right?

984
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 4: How are you guys doing good?

985
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: Good?

986
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 4: Excited to kind of wash away Sunday nights lost to

987
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 4: the Packers and look ahead to the Vikings. I know

988
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 4: that we aren't just talking about the offensive line. We

989
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 4: talk about all kinds of things with you, Ray, but

990
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 4: I do like starting with the offensive line when there's

991
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 4: something to ask, because you're an expert. And I felt

992
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 4: so good about where they were, or at least the

993
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 4: performance they had against the Cardinals, and then it was

994
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 4: like we saw a night and day switch against the Packers,

995
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 4: allowing seven sacks and just not getting a run game going.

996
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 4: What do you think happened for them in this one?

997
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 16: Well, honestly, I felt like in the Arizona game, they

998
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 16: found something that the offensive line could execute on that

999
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 16: they felt confident that they could do, and it was

1000
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 16: really the counter getting between the tackles, getting downhill as

1001
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 16: soon as possible, you know, limiting the amount of opportunities

1002
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 16: for negative yards. I think in that game they've only

1003
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 16: I think Charmany had one run for a negative one

1004
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 16: yard and that's an important part of it, to stay

1005
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 16: ahead of the teams. And then when it came out

1006
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 16: last week, they were more horizontal. They were trying to

1007
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 16: do the same concept but taking it one gap further

1008
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 16: to the outside to try to get around the edge,

1009
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 16: and they did early in the game. I think Charbonnaye

1010
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 16: had a nice little run with it, and then later

1011
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 16: in the game they scored a touchdown with it. But

1012
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 16: the other times they were trying it in the game,

1013
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 16: you were asking the tight ends to be the guys

1014
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 16: that are selling the edge, and tight ends they worked

1015
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 16: hard at blocking, but I can't say that they're the

1016
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 16: dudes I want to rely on to make those blocks.

1017
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 16: And so then the players kept getting stretched from sideline

1018
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 16: to sideline and there was nothing there. And so what

1019
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 16: I think that they need to do this week is

1020
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 16: it has to be a statement game, and not a

1021
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 16: statement game for the other team, but a statement game

1022
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 16: for Grubbed, a statement game for the oppositive line, and

1023
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 16: a statement game for the running back to themselves that

1024
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 16: this is who the heck we are, Like, we're going

1025
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 16: to run this counter thing between the tackles and we're

1026
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 16: gonna play a smot bubble freaking football game. Because this

1027
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 16: is the type of football game we want to play.

1028
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 16: We're gonna mite Tyson the hell out of this game.

1029
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 16: And then and then as soon as you start to

1030
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 16: sit down on those jabs and those right crosses and uppercuts,

1031
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 16: then we'll hit you with the CounterPunch and take the

1032
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 16: play one gap to the outside. To me, they have

1033
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 16: a lot working for them, and those two schemes, along

1034
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 16: with some of the double teams that were having and

1035
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 16: the split zone, because you can make the backside double

1036
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 16: team in the split zone look the same as the

1037
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 16: deuce block on the front side of the counterplay, and

1038
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 16: so then you can get the defense the twich in between,

1039
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 16: as my mom would say. And so that's what I

1040
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 16: feel like the offensive line, grub and the running backs

1041
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 16: need to do. We're gonna come and we're gonna punch

1042
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 16: in the mouth and punching the mouth until something tells

1043
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 16: us we need to stop punch you in the mouth

1044
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 16: until you can prove to us that you can stop

1045
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 16: us from doing that. And if you can prove that,

1046
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 16: then we have these other things that we can try.

1047
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 16: And I think they need to show up in the

1048
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 16: I can't. I can't think of the word in the

1049
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 16: posture that this is who we are and this is

1050
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 16: who we're gonna be, and damn it, you're gonna have

1051
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 16: to prove us that we're not that before we move

1052
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 16: away from it.

1053
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 5: You said something about the tight ends, and I feel

1054
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 5: like I say this a lot, like you can't block

1055
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 5: that guy with a tight end. Yeah, every once in

1056
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 5: a while I'll see that, Like, you know, whether it's

1057
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 5: a guy like Dre Jones or whatever, is that is

1058
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 5: that something that you find? Is that a one of

1059
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 5: the complaints that you that you have when you're looking

1060
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 5: at a game and you're like, man, you know, do

1061
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 5: you think offenses try to rely on that too much?

1062
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 16: I think sometimes obviously just tight ends that do a

1063
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 16: really good job blocking, But do you have to you

1064
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 16: have to know your personnel the same as like marsh

1065
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 16: Levers was saying, you know on the show the other day,

1066
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 16: is that you have to know who can do what

1067
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 16: and then what plays and what concepts to kind of

1068
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 16: set those those guys up with. Sometimes I think, uh,

1069
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 16: we have tight ends that are willing blockers. I don't

1070
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 16: know that there are guys that where you can say like, Okay,

1071
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 16: go block Derek Hall. You know what I'm saying, Like, like,

1072
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 16: I think that would be that would be a tough

1073
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 16: ask for them to consistently do that. And even in

1074
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 16: some of that outside kind of can and pull that

1075
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 16: they were doing, they're asking like JSN to go inside

1076
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 16: and block a inside linebacker or at least get in

1077
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 16: a way or whatever. Like you're like, that's something that

1078
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 16: where you just you don't want to like make your

1079
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 16: hate on those blocks because they're gonna probably probably lose

1080
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 16: more than they win. I'm not like these guys, but

1081
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 16: you had something really positive going with your offensive line

1082
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 16: and just a traditional counter and then they change it

1083
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 16: up a little bit. It was a garden to tackle

1084
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 16: and then sometimes it might be the guard and the

1085
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 16: tight end, but it was but that concept between the

1086
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 16: tackles is something that the team, that that group of

1087
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 16: dudes have felt good about. And to go away from

1088
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 16: that to try to already do the count to that

1089
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 16: and that's what you are gonna make your pay on it.

1090
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 16: Last week, just to me, it just wasn't I don't know,

1091
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 16: it just wasn't fitting the tetris pieces together the right way.

1092
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 8: Hey, Ray, let's go to pass pro now man any

1093
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 8: improvement from last week. I mean, we assumed that they're

1094
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 8: gonna be ups and downs with this line. You got

1095
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 8: young guys at a couple of spots. But how's the

1096
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 8: progress going with the pass pro?

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Speaker 16: Well, last week it just really got away from them.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 16: And then also they didn't do the any favors by like,

1100
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 16: they weren't moving the pocket, they weren't undersend there doing

1101
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 16: a whole lot of play action stuff. They weren't like,

1102
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 16: you know, throwing the quick game as much and like

1103
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 16: those types of things. I think they tried one screen

1104
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 16: and so they weren't give they weren't equipping the offensive

1105
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 16: line with other tools that they could use. And so

1106
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 16: then it was especially once it started kind of getting

1107
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 16: away from them, and then I think just thee the

1108
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 16: defense just had their day with them. I think it

1109
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 16: was what seven sacks, and I think six different guys

1110
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 16: got sacked, So that meant that everyone across the line

1111
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 16: of scrimmage was during that part to contribute to the

1112
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 16: sack total. And so I don't know that they did

1113
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 16: any favors, especially when shoot, I figured the back up

1114
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 16: quarterback came in and you run eighteen nineteen plays and

1115
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 16: nineteen or eighteen of them are pass plays, like they

1116
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 16: just weren't doing the pass detection any favors. And so

1117
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 16: I think though, that they can get the running game going.

1118
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 16: In the last three games, I think it is the

1119
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 16: Vikings have given up I think four hundred and twenty

1120
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 16: five yards rushing almost one hundred and forty forty yards

1121
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 16: a game, almost four point six yards per carry, and

1122
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 16: so I think if they can get that going, then

1123
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 16: they can create space to use some of this play

1124
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 16: action pass move the pocket told the pass rush down

1125
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 16: because they can't get out to the quarterback if you

1126
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 16: let them, And so I think you have to find

1127
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 16: that balance, and that balance is you can't have four

1128
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 16: rushes in the first half eight carries for the game,

1129
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 16: Like even if you're only getting two or three yards,

1130
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 16: you still need those plays to keep things.

1131
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 4: On try he is Ray Roberts. We go in the

1132
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 4: trenches with Ray Roberts every single Thursday for the huddle.

1133
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 4: You can hear more from Ray on the Seahawks pre

1134
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 4: and postgame show. Thanks so much, Ray, Thanks Ray Pea.

1135
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 4: We still have a couple of things coming your way.

1136
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 4: The Voice of the Seahawks Steve Rabel is going to

1137
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 4: join us at one point fifteen. Alec Lewis, who covers

1138
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 4: the Vikings for the Athletic, is going to join us

1139
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 4: at one thirty, and we've got a lot of questions

1140
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 4: to him, including, Yes, what are some weaknesses Seattle can exploit?

1141
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 4: What's an achilles he here for this team? And also

1142
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 4: what have you seen from Sam Darnold? When did you

1143
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 4: start buying into it? So we'll ask him all of

1144
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 4: those questions coming up at one thirty, and then John

1145
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 4: Boyle if Seahawks dot com is going to join us

1146
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 4: and run over what's been an interesting injury report this week,

1147
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 4: as well as the latest on Gino Smith. All of

1148
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 4: that coming your way next this.

1149
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 3: This is the Huddle every Thursday from noon to two

1150
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 3: on Seattle Sports.

1151
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 4: Joining us now on the Huddle, it's the voice of

1152
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 4: the Seahawks, Steve Rabel, rabes how.

1153
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 17: Going, baby going well?

1154
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 4: Thank you and you fantastic. I'm excited for Sunday, a

1155
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 4: little nervous for Sunday. This is a very very good

1156
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 4: vikings team and one that raves. As you know, we

1157
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 4: weren't expecting to be this good. They're twelve and two

1158
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 4: and I did not see the season coming from Sam

1159
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 4: Darnold or from Minnesota. What to you is the single

1160
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 4: biggest threat they're going to be bringing to Century.

1161
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 17: Link that they're twelve and two. They are you don't

1162
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 17: you are what your record says you are, as some

1163
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 17: wonderful coach said one time, And that's exactly who these

1164
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 17: guys are. Now. When you go start to look through

1165
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 17: the schedule, you know they've beaten a lot of teams that,

1166
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 17: quite frankly, aren't great teams, and so that should give

1167
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 17: a lot of us hope that they can be beaten.

1168
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 17: And that I think is something that I know Mike

1169
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 17: and the players are looking at saying, listen, we can

1170
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 17: beat anybody if we play our game. The problem is

1171
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 17: you can't kind of repeat what you just did a

1172
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 17: week ago, and that is fall behind fourteen nothing and

1173
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 17: uh and not be able to carry out the kind

1174
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 17: of offense that you want to do to keep you

1175
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 17: in the game. You just can't do those things. So

1176
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 17: you're gonna have to get back to play in that

1177
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 17: game you played during your four game win streak.

1178
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Speaker 5: Hey, Rabes, I'm sorry I can't be your date at

1179
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 5: the holiday party. I've got other plans, but yeah, I do.

1180
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: Hey, what was I kind of felt like that.

1181
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 17: About that, by the way, the third leg on that table.

1182
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 17: But that's okay, go ahead.

1183
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: I think we spend enough time together.

1184
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:40,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, me too.

1185
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 5: So hey, I kind of felt like in that game

1186
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 5: the other night that after the first two I think

1187
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 5: that's the first time I remember in a long time

1188
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 5: where they just got beat up. I mean, this has

1189
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 5: been such a physical team, and especially on defense, and

1190
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 5: I don't know that that game.

1191
00:49:59,040 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: The other day.

1192
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 5: Just going back to the Packer game, I feel like

1193
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 5: those first two drives almost felt like it was over there.

1194
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 5: I just hadn't seen that was very I thought atypical

1195
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 5: for the way that this team has been playing.

1196
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 17: I agree, and I'm not sure why that is. I'm

1197
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 17: sure the coaches when they sit down and analyze the video,

1198
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 17: which they already have in tech. You know now that

1199
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Speaker 17: it's Thursday, twenty four hour rule is long since up.

1200
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 17: So you looked at it, you make corrections, you talk

1201
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 17: about it in meetings, and now you get on with

1202
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 17: the vikings. And as long as there's another game to play,

1203
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 17: as you know, and as we always say, then you're

1204
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 17: always planning for the next one as opposed to thinking

1205
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 17: too much about the last one. But you know, I'm

1206
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 17: not sure if we if we altered some of the

1207
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 17: things that we had done that were successful. You and

1208
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 17: I talked about today. We've got really excited because of

1209
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 17: the way we played against Arizona, and we all we also,

1210
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 17: you know, made that caveat that Arizona is a different

1211
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 17: sort of cat when it comes to defense. They played

1212
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 17: some things, They do, some things that are unorthodox sometimes

1213
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 17: and that leave them open for issues sometimes, and I

1214
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 17: think that's one of the things we did. We took

1215
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 17: advantage of that. This this Viking team, I think defensively especially,

1216
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 17: is going to look a lot like the Packers team.

1217
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 17: They're not going to give you anything. They're not going

1218
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 17: to do anything crazy. They're going to just come up

1219
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 17: and hit you in the mouth and expect you to

1220
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 17: have to make the adjustments or to just win your

1221
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 17: one on one battles. And I think that's what we're

1222
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 17: going to be seeing from here on out. We have

1223
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 17: to win these battles against these last three teams.

1224
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Speaker 2: Is there such thing as a quarterback whisper?

1225
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 8: I guess Kevin O'Connell a quarterback whisper because I mean raves,

1226
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 8: you could imagine how difficult it is to go through

1227
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 8: the league for three four years and be beat up

1228
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 8: and everyone tell you and that you're not good enough.

1229
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 8: But then all of a sudden, Sam Darnold is playing

1230
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 8: some good ball. Obviously his talent helps them, right, But

1231
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 8: I think you gotta tip your cap a bit to

1232
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 8: O'Connell as well.

1233
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean he may be whispering as well. He

1234
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 17: might also be shouting sometimes in the quarterback meeting rooms,

1235
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 17: but about this is how we want to play and

1236
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 17: this is what our offense is.

1237
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 10: I mean.

1238
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 17: The story that I can compare this to best is

1239
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 17: when Sam Adkins played with us. He was our backup

1240
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 17: quarterback and everybody knew Jim was the starter, and when

1241
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 17: Dave came along, eventually Dave Craig was the starter. But

1242
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 17: Sam was the guy who understood better than anybody I

1243
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 17: think on our offense, what exactly our offense was capable of,

1244
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 17: and how we go about that, how we play. And

1245
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 17: I distinctly remember our offensive coordinator, Jerry Rome had a

1246
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 17: chance to become a head coach in the World Football

1247
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 17: League at one time, and one of the questions he

1248
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 17: asked was of Sam, would you like to be my

1249
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 17: quarterback coach, my offensive coordinator. And I don't think Sam

1250
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 17: didn't do it, obviously, I don't think Jerry even got

1251
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 17: the job. But the point guys sometimes who are the

1252
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 17: backup quarterbacks? And you know Conle was, Kevin O'Connell was

1253
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 17: a backup quarterback. And you've seen more, you listen more.

1254
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 17: You have to be ready for your opportunity, and those

1255
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 17: guys are they're smart guys. And so this guy has

1256
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 17: played the position. Even though he didn't do much in

1257
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 17: the NFL, he hung around for a while with a

1258
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 17: bunch of different teams, so he knows what he's talking about.

1259
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 17: And it's a long way of saying he found something

1260
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 17: in Darnold that he said, we can work with. We

1261
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 17: can make this guy a good quarterback in a system

1262
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 17: that we know works.

1263
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 4: This is a game in which the Vikings are heavily favored,

1264
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 4: and that's not surprising. I mean, they're twelve and two.

1265
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 4: The Seahawks have been a far more volatile as a team.

1266
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 4: The Seahawks, though like any other team, can always upset

1267
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 4: and can always play their best football when it matters most.

1268
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 4: I mean that's nearly how Chicago beat the Vikings earlier

1269
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 4: this year, took them into overtime. It was their very, very,

1270
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 4: very best game. Have you, obviously you've been on the

1271
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 4: call for Seahawks games, is there ever one that comes

1272
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 4: to mind when you think of the Seahawks kind of

1273
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 4: surprising you that day, Like maybe you privately went into

1274
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 4: the game thinking, I don't know about this one, and

1275
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 4: then they kind of shocked you.

1276
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 17: Oh well, I mean, you can go all the way

1277
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 17: back to nineteen eighty three, and that was long before

1278
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 17: all of you except Dave were even born. Dave was

1279
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 17: I think already in his forties then. But if you

1280
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 17: go back, if you go back to nineteen eighty three

1281
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 17: and take a look at what the Seahawks did first

1282
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 17: year under Chuck Knox and playing as well as they

1283
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 17: did down the stretch, and then getting through the playoffs

1284
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 17: and eventually going to Miami to play a divisional playoff

1285
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 17: game against the team with Dan Marino and a lot

1286
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 17: of weapons, and that everybody we thought was one of

1287
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 17: the best teams in the league and went down there

1288
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 17: and beat him. In my that was that was surprising

1289
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 17: to the extent that it was amazing they played that

1290
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 17: well that soon under a new head coach. So nothing

1291
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 17: is impossible. Put nothing past a group of football players

1292
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 17: and a good, solid, smart coach, and you know, you

1293
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 17: never know what can happen. You just go out there

1294
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 17: and you play. The thing you do know, however, is

1295
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 17: that you have to believe that you can do it.

1296
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 17: I really think and Dave, we're around these guys a

1297
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 17: pretty fair amount. When you get when you look at

1298
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 17: guys like Leo Williams and Jay Reid and Julian Love

1299
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 17: just on the defensive side and Gino on the offensive side,

1300
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 17: this guy, these guys believe that they can win every game.

1301
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 17: And that's half the battle right there.

1302
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 5: Ray, if you get a chance to talk to Mike McDonald,

1303
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 5: you know, every every week, and what about him stands

1304
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 5: out now that we're you know, down down the line

1305
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 5: of fair fair amount? Got three games left? And what

1306
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Speaker 5: is there anything that during your interviews that you've seen

1307
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:07,240
Speaker 5: him either you know, change or like mature or something

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00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 5: that he's he's wiser now, or anything stand out with

1309
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 5: your your chats with him.

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Speaker 18: I think the thing that stands out most is just

1311
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 18: his consistency. He's as even keeled, I think, as as

1312
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 18: any coach I've I've been around, and I.

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Speaker 17: Think that comes with a with a sense of confidence

1314
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 17: that he knows his stuff and he knows he's going

1315
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Speaker 17: to be prepared, and he knows his coaches are good teachers,

1316
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 17: and he knows he's got players that can understand and

1317
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 17: can and can do the sorts of things that he

1318
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 17: believes and he knows that work. So no, he's been

1319
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 17: really Uh, if anything, Dave's he's gotten a little looser,

1320
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Speaker 17: a little more. I don't want to I don't want

1321
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 17: to go out on a limb and say fun, but

1322
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Speaker 17: I mean he's actually, you know, we do. We have

1323
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Speaker 17: an enjoyable time chatting both before and after our interviews

1324
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Speaker 17: about a variety of things. And I have found in

1325
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 17: all my years of doing this that you can develop

1326
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 17: those kind of relationships with these coaches. I had one

1327
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Speaker 17: of those with Mike, and with Pete and now with

1328
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 17: when I say Mike, Mike Holmgren and now Mike McDonald, and.

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Speaker 16: It just makes the job easier.

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Speaker 17: And I think he feels like with guys like Bump

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Speaker 17: and all the rest of us on the pre and

1332
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 17: post we're all former players. We've all been there, and

1333
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 17: so we know what he's talking about we can understand,

1334
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Speaker 17: and I think he appreciates that too. But mostly David's

1335
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Speaker 17: just the consistency, and I just find that really great

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Speaker 17: in a young coach.

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Speaker 4: He is the voice of the Seahawks. Steve Rabel going

1338
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 4: to be on the call this Sunday alongside Dave Wyman.

1339
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Speaker 4: Thanks Rapes, Thanks Raves.

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Speaker 17: Thanks guys. See you later. If we don't have a

1341
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 17: chance to talk much, Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas to you

1342
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 17: as well.

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Speaker 4: Ravees Rabes. All right, we are gonna take a dive

1344
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Speaker 4: in to understand the Vikings a little bit more with

1345
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 4: an expert who covers them daily. Alec Lewis of the

1346
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Speaker 4: Athletic joins us next.

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Speaker 3: This This is the Huddle every Thursday from noon to

1348
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 3: two on Seattle Sports.

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Speaker 4: Joining us right now, Minnesota Viking speed writer for the Athletic.

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Speaker 4: It's Alec Lewis. Hey, Alec, I gotta be really honest,

1351
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 4: Bump and I have been previewing this game all week,

1352
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 4: and I am a little bit nervous. The Minnesota Vikings

1353
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 4: look phenomenal this year, but surprisingly we're not at all

1354
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 4: expected to be that. What was this year supposed to

1355
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 4: be about? Like, what kind of conversations were you guys

1356
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 4: having in August.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, well, first, thank you guys for having me. The

1358
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 19: conversations we were having in August would be how long

1359
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 19: is Sam Darnold gonna play? When will JJ McCarthy, who

1360
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 19: they drafted with the number ten pick, when will he

1361
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Speaker 19: take over? He looked, he looked phenomenal, honestly in training

1362
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Speaker 19: camp and in his first preseason game, and then JJ

1363
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Speaker 19: Torres meniscus that kind of popped up randomly after that

1364
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Speaker 19: first preseason game against the Raiders, and at that point, frankly,

1365
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Speaker 19: the expectations around here we're low. I mean, I think

1366
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 19: the over under for this team was around six and

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00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 19: a half wins. There was optimism with the staff, with

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Speaker 19: head coach Kevin O'Connell and Brian Flores as a defensive

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Speaker 19: coordinator and what those guys could do and how they

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Speaker 19: could maybe allow this team to overachieve, but I think

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Speaker 19: essentially the fan base was kind of like, Okay, we'll

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Speaker 19: see what happens. This might be kind of a lost year,

1373
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Speaker 19: a transition year, and it has been really really impressive

1374
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Speaker 19: to see what they've done, to see what Sam Darnold

1375
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Speaker 19: has done, to see what the defense has done.

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Speaker 6: And I think.

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Speaker 19: People here have had a blast with this year in

1378
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 19: a way that's it's been really fun to cover, been

1379
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 19: fun to watch a very very very tight knit team,

1380
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Speaker 19: a very well coached team, and they are buying now

1381
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Speaker 19: for the NFD North and the number one seed.

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Speaker 8: Hey, as you know, there are only a few quarterbacks

1383
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 8: every single year. You go into this season and you go,

1384
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 8: these guys have a legit chance to win the division,

1385
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Speaker 8: win a championship, even if they start off horribly.

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow's balling. But at some point they were playing as.

1387
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Speaker 8: A team bad football were like, well they got Joe,

1388
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 8: they should be fine. When did you, guys and Vikings

1389
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Speaker 8: fans really start believing in Sam Donald, when you just

1390
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Speaker 8: bought in and said, okay, he's as good as he's

1391
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Speaker 8: playing right now.

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Speaker 19: I think for me the point was probably about a

1393
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Speaker 19: month ago in Chicago in overtime the Vikings had I mean,

1394
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 19: they were winning the game for the majority of the game.

1395
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 19: Chicago storms back at the end, they got an on

1396
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Speaker 19: side kick. It was almost a terrible collapse for the

1397
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Speaker 19: Vikings and the game went to overtime. Sam Donald in

1398
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Speaker 19: that overtime period go six for six for ninety yards,

1399
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Speaker 19: was threading the ball in all over the field to TJ.

1400
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Speaker 19: Hockson at tight end, to Justin Jefferson, Jordan Edison, and

1401
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Speaker 19: at that point for me, for him to do it

1402
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Speaker 19: late in the game, in that type of moment, that

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Speaker 19: was kind of validating. But the reality is, I mean,

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Speaker 19: I believe the week before the Vikings in Nashville and

1405
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Speaker 19: and and he displayed some pocket movement stuff there even

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Speaker 19: earlier in the year. I mean, I'm week one against

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Speaker 19: the Giants, he looked solid. So I'd say, you know,

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Speaker 19: there was optimism even coming even in training camp. Coming

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Speaker 19: out of training camp, there was optimism. And through the

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Speaker 19: early part of the season there was. And I last

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Speaker 19: and I still do often at people who were like, man,

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Speaker 19: when is Sam Donald just gonna come back down to

1413
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 19: earth and be Sam Donald? And I'm like, well, that's

1414
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Speaker 19: assuming that he's gonna come back down to earth and

1415
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Speaker 19: have Adam Gasee as his coach all of a sudden

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Speaker 19: and not have Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison and not have

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Speaker 19: the offensive line that he had that he's had. So

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Speaker 19: to me, I think, you know, we talked so much

1419
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 19: about quarterbacks in this league, and I really understand it.

1420
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Speaker 19: They are the superstars, the most important positions in sports

1421
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Speaker 19: and in this society probably, But I don't think we

1422
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 19: put enough still and just in terms of the importance

1423
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Speaker 19: of and the impact of the infrastructure. And that's coaching,

1424
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 19: and that's skill players, and that's offensive line, and that's environment.

1425
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Speaker 19: Really and so I think that stuff is just paramount

1426
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Speaker 19: when we talk about these guys beyond just their own

1427
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Speaker 19: play themselves.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I listened to a couple of different podcasts that

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Speaker 4: did this exercise, and I just thought it was a

1430
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Speaker 4: really fascinating one for contending teams, which the Vikings certainly are,

1431
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 4: and it was, Hey, for all these really good teams,

1432
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 4: they looked at the Lions, they looked at the Bills,

1433
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Speaker 4: they looked I mean the Vikings teams that had just

1434
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 4: really either overperformed or were just really dominant, and they said, Okay,

1435
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Speaker 4: if I have to isolate a red flag, like what

1436
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 4: would cost this team in the playoffs and what red

1437
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 4: flag would somehow pop up? And the point was, you know,

1438
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Speaker 4: for the team like the Vikings to go, okay, even

1439
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 4: really good, but where's the Achilles heel? So I'll throw

1440
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Speaker 4: the question your way. They've obviously AD twelve and two

1441
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 4: been phenomenal, But where's the Achilles heel?

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Speaker 16: Yeah?

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Speaker 19: To me, it's probably at the interior of the offensive line.

1444
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 19: I believe there was a statistic last week that I

1445
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 19: spotted on Next Gen Staffs or NFL Pro where it was,

1446
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 19: like the Vikings interior the offensive line had given up

1447
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 19: one hundred and forty pressures this season, which was the

1448
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Speaker 19: most in the NFL. And I mean, as you guys

1449
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 19: very well know, I mean, there's Leonard Williams over there,

1450
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 19: so you guys know it integray. But I think these

1451
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 19: a lot of these NFC playoff teams have serious talent

1452
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 19: on the interior of interior of their defensive line. I mean,

1453
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 19: whether it's Tampa Bay and Vidavea, whether it's the Eagles

1454
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 19: and Janlen Carter, whether it's the Rams and Kobe Turner

1455
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 19: or Braden Fist, whether it's the Commanders and darn Payn

1456
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Speaker 19: Jonathan Allen, like all of these teams that the Vikes

1457
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 19: could ultimately match up against. Even the Packers with Kenny

1458
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 19: Clark and Devonte Wyatt like, they have furious talent on

1459
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 19: the interior defensive line and that will complicate things for

1460
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Speaker 19: the Vikings interior the offensive line, and I will say, like,

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Speaker 19: the Viking staff does a very very very good job

1462
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 19: working round protection, being very mindful of protection as they

1463
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 19: game plan and designed the offense for each of these games.

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Speaker 1: But at some.

1465
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Speaker 19: Point, like the players make the plays, and so that's

1466
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Speaker 19: the spot that I've watched. And then other than that,

1467
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Speaker 19: I would just say, like the turnovers, they mitigated them

1468
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 19: in the last four weeks or so, but early in

1469
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 19: the season this team was turning the ball over at

1470
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Speaker 19: a pretty high clip, And I stayed all the time,

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Speaker 19: it's the most important predictive stats winning. So that's that's

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Speaker 19: what I said. But I think it's a great question.

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Speaker 8: Speaking of turnovers, Vikings are plus eight in the turnover differential.

1474
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Speaker 8: And the first thing I do as an offensive guy

1475
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Speaker 8: is I scouted the defense. Last week, I looked at

1476
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 8: the Green Bay Packers and that defensive line was better

1477
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 8: than I thought. This week, I look at the Vikings

1478
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 8: and I described the second and third level as like

1479
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 8: flight of the bumblebee, Like these dudes are flying around

1480
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 8: to the football. How has there been such a change

1481
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 8: in this defense? Last year you were and so are

1482
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 8: they weren't so great? And in the turnover department. This

1483
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 8: year they're in the the plus the plus range.

1484
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 2: What is it?

1485
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Speaker 1: Is it?

1486
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 8: Brian Flores is kind of getting that message across.

1487
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 2: Is it personnel? What do you think is the key

1488
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 2: to this?

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01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 19: Yeah, personnel is where I start. I mean the Vikings

1490
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 19: and it really it's a fascinating team build and kind

1491
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 19: of progression. But when Kirk Cousins departed before freight or

1492
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 19: in free agency, and Daniel Hunter as well has been

1493
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 19: a phenomenal pass rusher this year for the Houston Texans,

1494
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 19: the Vikings had had some money to spend and they

1495
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 19: identified a bunch of guys that they brought in. Jonathan Gernard,

1496
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 19: Andrew Van Ginkel, Blake Cashman, Shag Griffins, Defon Gilmore, Jerry Tillery.

1497
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Speaker 1: All of the jahad Ward.

1498
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Speaker 19: All of these guys were free agents, signing pretty early

1499
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 19: in the free agency periods, and they've all performed to

1500
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 19: their evaluation of what they were paid, if not beyond that.

1501
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 19: And so in terms of the turnovers and kind of

1502
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 19: how I mean flying around the way that you identified

1503
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 19: and noticed, to me, it starts with the pass rush.

1504
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 19: I think they've been able to get more pressure with

1505
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 19: a four man passed rush with Jonathan Gernard and Andrew

1506
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 19: Van Ginko, And I think that's been that's been huge,

1507
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 19: the less time the quarterback has to throw, the less

1508
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 19: time the secondary has to cover. And then I also

1509
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 19: think beyond the personnel that they have, Like I remember

1510
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 19: sitting before the season and I watched film with Harrison Smith,

1511
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 19: who is a longtime safety, potential Hall of Famer. Here

1512
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 19: he's still playing at a very high clip, and we

1513
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 19: were sitting in a meteora room even up on the

1514
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 19: third floor of the Vikings facility, and on the whiteboard

1515
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 19: kind of in front of him as we were watching

1516
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 19: some film together, Like the number one priority on the

1517
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 19: whiteboard is like, be all about the ball. And so

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Speaker 19: they have done everything they could possibly do every day

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01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 19: within drills to prioritize turnovers, to prioritize punching the ball loose,

1520
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 19: to to you know, just value interceptions as much as possible.

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Speaker 19: And so I think it's been a kind of just

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01:06:55,480 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 19: a pair of better personnel, very sharp scheme by Brian Flores,

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01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 19: and then just the turnovers being such a priority, and

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01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 19: it's it's been massive in their record right now at

1525
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 19: twelve and two, is there.

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Speaker 4: A matchup you're especially curious about when these two teams

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Speaker 4: meet Sunday.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean I every week the Vikings play football,

1529
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 19: I'm so fascinated to see just how the opposing defense

1530
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 19: tries to defend Justin Jefferson. It is a question every

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01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 19: single week of will they will they man him up?

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Speaker 19: Will they shadow them with one specific corner? Will they

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01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 19: will they? Will they bracket him? Will they play cloud?

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01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 19: If they if they allocate two defenders on him, does

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01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,919
Speaker 19: that mean Jordan Addison is one on one? Because Jordan

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01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 19: Addison has produced to an exceptional level this year. I

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Speaker 19: also am fascinated by this specifically with this game because,

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Speaker 19: as you guys know better than I do, Devion Witherspoon,

1539
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 19: Tyreek wooland these guys are long and their physical corners,

1540
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 19: and I'd say one way to limiting Justin Jefferson Jordan

1541
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 19: Addison is to be physical with those guys. So really,

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Speaker 19: for me, it's how Mike McDonald tries to limit Justin Jefferson,

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01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 19: how much split safety, two high safety they play. All

1544
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 19: of that to me is an every week fascination because

1545
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 19: these guys are very, very very hard to defend, and

1546
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 19: I have a lot of respect for Mike McDonald's I'm

1547
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 19: just fascinated to see how he goes about that.

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Speaker 4: This weekend Minnesota Vikings feat writer for the Athletic Key

1549
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 4: is Alex Lewis kind enough to join us for the huddle.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much, Alex.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, thank you guys for having me. I appreciate enjoy

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01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 19: the game. Sunday should be.

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Speaker 4: Fun you too, Thank you. John Boyle joining us next.

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Speaker 3: This This is the huddle every Thursday from noon to

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01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 3: two on Seattle Sports.

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Speaker 4: You are listening to the huddle. Joining us right now,

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01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:49,719
Speaker 4: John Boyle, reporter for Seahawks dot Com. John, it sounds

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01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 4: like Gino Smith is good to go. For all the

1559
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 4: worry that we had during the game when he left,

1560
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 4: and certainly on Monday waiting for updates, it feels like

1561
01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 4: that storyline is kind of waltzed back into the background

1562
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 4: or not. Am I around?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 12: I mean he practiced fully yesterday. He told the media

1565
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 12: today he plans on playing. He said he's looking forward

1566
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 12: to Sunday, and you know he may not be one

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01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 12: hundred percent, but it's you know, usually you see a

1568
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 12: guy leave a game with the knee injury and not return,

1569
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 12: you fear for something, even if not long term, like

1570
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 12: it's the end of the season, he might you know,

1571
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 12: you worry he might miss a couple of games. So

1572
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 12: for him to be out there practicing and be ready

1573
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 12: to go is obviously a huge deal for the team

1574
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 12: that needs to win these you know, probably all three

1575
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 12: of these last games.

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Speaker 15: But got to get back on track.

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Speaker 5: I feel like Gino has like not just because I

1578
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 5: played the position, but I feel like he has a

1579
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 5: linebacker mentality kind of like he's he's like more I

1580
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,799
Speaker 5: feel like he's more apt to get pissed off.

1581
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, than most quarterbacks. And I love that about Yeah, he's.

1582
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:51,480
Speaker 12: Definitely a little fiery then your kind of traditional quarterback

1583
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 12: you're thinking as just this like stoic leader and he

1584
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 12: I agree.

1585
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 15: I like that.

1586
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 12: And we've seen him get really fired up in games

1587
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,759
Speaker 12: and he usually it's the key there say, it usually

1588
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 12: serves him well. Like you see guys in sports who

1589
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 12: get mad and they kind of get on tilt and

1590
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 12: they start messing up. But like there's a lot of

1591
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 12: stances where things aren't going well, whether it's he turned

1592
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 12: the ball over or a call he doesn't like, and

1593
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 12: you see him fired up on the sideline and then

1594
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 12: the next drive he's you know, lead leads a touchdown

1595
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 12: or something.

1596
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 8: I can't believe you too, but quarterback does it, linebacker

1597
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 8: does it.

1598
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 2: He's fiery receiver.

1599
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 4: Were double standards?

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Speaker 1: You know it's true.

1601
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 15: Have I ever said that about it?

1602
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 8: I say it so we always say that, Come on,

1603
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 8: Ken Walker, man, we'll see we can.

1604
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 12: We don't know yet, Well, he was he didn't practice

1605
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 12: on a day, did he. But Mike McDonald said, he did,

1606
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 12: you walk through and the hope was to kind of

1607
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:50,879
Speaker 12: ramp him up starting Thursday.

1608
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 15: So you hope that's a good sign.

1609
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll know a lot.

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01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 12: More, probably Friday, after they practice and we hear from Mike.

1611
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 8: But yeah, the worst case scenario, we're going Kenny mc

1612
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 8: andsh and George I get.

1613
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 12: I mean, we don't know yet what's going on with

1614
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 12: Sharponay other than that he did show up on the

1615
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 12: injury part Wednesday. That was one of those you know,

1616
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 12: if you don't know about injury coming out of the game,

1617
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 12: no one knows to ask Mike McDonald about it. And

1618
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,719
Speaker 12: then we get the injury part Wednesday, and the press

1619
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 12: conference has already happened, so then you have to kind

1620
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 12: of wait till Friday for any details. So he was

1621
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 12: on the injury port. We'll see, you know, maybe it

1622
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 12: was a little light thing and he's out there today.

1623
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 15: Maybe not what you know.

1624
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 2: Always Yeah, that's kind of tricky.

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01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 15: It's not injury loved you yet.

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Speaker 4: Mike mc donald has said that red zone is a

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Speaker 4: particular focus for the team right now. That's especially with

1628
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 4: the turnovers that they've had there that Gino has thrown there.

1629
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Speaker 4: What do you see happening for this team in the

1630
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 4: red zone, because we've all seen them struggle there before.

1631
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 4: They're certainly not one of the best teams. What do

1632
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 4: you think is happening with them? And are there any

1633
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 4: patterns you've noticed that are Yeah.

1634
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Speaker 12: I mean, not running the ball well in the red

1635
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 12: zone hurts you a lot because when you know it's

1636
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 12: people says all the time, and it's true, like it's

1637
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 12: hard to throw in the red zone because everything's so condensed,

1638
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 12: like they don't have to respect the threat of you

1639
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 12: throwing over the top. So it's it's easier to pass

1640
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 12: defend in the red zone than the rest of the field.

1641
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 12: And because of that, if you can't run the ball,

1642
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 12: it's really tough. And I mean, like Gino Smith said

1643
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,600
Speaker 12: on that, you know, the way that play developed, the

1644
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 12: interception he threw this week or last week in the

1645
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 12: red zone, if you go back and watch it, like

1646
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 12: no offense does have a man beat and that throw

1647
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 12: very well, maybe a touchdown if it's just no fent

1648
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,560
Speaker 12: on his man. But again, red zone things are condensed,

1649
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 12: and the guy who was covering Tyler to Walkett was

1650
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 12: able to peel off and make a play.

1651
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 15: So it just you got to be really precise.

1652
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 12: In the red zone and you got to run the ball,

1653
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 12: and those are things that just haven't been consistent enough.

1654
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 5: Have you been kind of fascinated with the Sam Darnold

1655
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 5: resurgence and the connection with O'Connell, And I'm just curious

1656
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 5: what you know, what you've heard, like Mike say about it.

1657
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: It's it's pretty it's pretty interesting.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean it, you know, it's kind of no,

1659
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 12: not the exact same scenario, but it's kind of like

1660
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 12: what we saw Geno Smith a couple of years ago.

1661
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 12: The guy who you know, happens to be the Jets

1662
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 12: both times, but a guy who's considered a you know,

1663
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 12: highly toned of guys, start at early in his career,

1664
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 12: and then things don't work out, and most of the

1665
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 12: league and fans kind of just pencil him in as

1666
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 12: a backup and move on and give up on him.

1667
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 12: You put a guy in the right situation where you know,

1668
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 12: O'Connell's a former quarterback himself, he's a great offensive mind,

1669
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 12: and all of a sudden you stout him with the

1670
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 12: right talent and oh, hey, this guy's the first round

1671
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 12: pick for a reason.

1672
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 15: He's got a lot of talent. So you know, they're

1673
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 15: fun stories.

1674
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 12: Like Geno Smith said, you know, he's rooting for a

1675
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:25,799
Speaker 12: guy like that every week except on Sunday.

1676
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 2: So what teams need to do now is go get

1677
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson.

1678
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 15: I mean, maybe I don't know.

1679
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 3: Jets.

1680
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 12: I mean not to like pile on the Jets, but

1681
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 12: I do think there's something to be said for looking

1682
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 12: at former quarterbacks who you know, have a lot of talent,

1683
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 12: a lot. It's not one team that like those guys

1684
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 12: coming out, Like a lot of teams had high opinions

1685
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 12: in these players, and you know, maybe look at okay,

1686
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 12: why did they fail and is there stuff that that

1687
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 12: they can still do to get better?

1688
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 15: And you know there's some value.

1689
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 8: In that Brian Flores has this defense playing well. Last year,

1690
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 8: they weren't that great this year. They they may some moves,

1691
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 8: get some backers, some quarters and they're flying around. Do

1692
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 8: you think he gets another shot as a head coach

1693
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 8: in the league eventually?

1694
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: That help?

1695
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 12: So, I mean he's doing a good job there, and

1696
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 12: I think, you know, there's too many instances of the

1697
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 12: guys who don't get second chances that probably deserve him.

1698
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 12: So uh yeah, I'd love to see him, you know,

1699
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 12: you know, not build his resume this weekend. But yeah,

1700
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 12: I mean he's doing a good job. As you said,

1701
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 12: they added some pieces and uh yeah, I think he

1702
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:25,719
Speaker 12: his name will definitely be in conversations for sure.

1703
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 4: What did you see from Seattle's defense against Green Bay?

1704
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 4: Because I think it's easy for people to go, oh,

1705
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 4: they finally faced a tough opponent, but I mean they

1706
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 4: handled the Rams through most of the game and played

1707
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 4: really well against Cardinals offense that can run the ball

1708
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 4: well typically, so they've they've had tests. It just kind

1709
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 4: of fell apart, particularly early. What did you see defensively

1710
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 4: on Sunday?

1711
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean we've heard a couple of players talk

1712
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 12: about this, but it was just it was a it

1713
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 12: was a tough half. It was you know, the for

1714
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 12: whatever reason, some of the things that the Packers were

1715
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 12: doing temple wise, like you go back and watch those plays,

1716
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 12: guys just wen't really set yet.

1717
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 15: They're kind of you know guys, they're moving guys on

1718
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 15: the defense of Lyne.

1719
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,599
Speaker 12: The linebackers still communicating balls out and that's it's really

1720
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 12: hard to play defense when you know, as players, I

1721
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 12: think phrase like when your cleats aren't in the ground.

1722
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 12: So they cleaned it up and they played really well

1723
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 12: in the second half, but you get behind seventeen points

1724
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 12: to a good team, a good second half isn't usually

1725
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 12: going to help you, especially when you're playing with your

1726
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 12: backup quarterback for.

1727
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 15: A lot of that half.

1728
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 12: So yeah, I mean, it was obviously not a great

1729
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 12: game for them, a great first half, but when you

1730
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 12: put it on balance with what they've been doing for

1731
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 12: five games previous and the fact they played a good

1732
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 12: second half, I still really like a lot about this defense.

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Speaker 15: And I think they'll respond, well.

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Speaker 1: You saw that I didn't even touch.

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Speaker 5: That, yeah fell, So it's yeah, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 5: I asked for Abel the same question, and you're around

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Speaker 5: Mike McDonald A lot. So I ask you too, is

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Speaker 5: as he has, you know, gone through the season, what

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01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 5: have you you noticed about Mike like settling into his

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01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 5: job and you know, getting getting more comfortable. It seems

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Speaker 5: like he seems very consistent. He's got a pretty decent

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Speaker 5: sense of humor.

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Speaker 15: Under ad sense of humor.

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Speaker 12: I think people were kind of sleeping on that because

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Speaker 12: it's sort of the subtle like dry is because you're

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Speaker 12: a dad maybe, I mean before he was a dad,

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Speaker 12: he had the dad just I do like we're.

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Speaker 15: Learning that he's superstitious. He uh so, you.

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Speaker 12: Know when they come in for the fans who've never

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Speaker 12: been in the building where the press conferences are, it's

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01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 12: an auditorium and there's ros coming down both sides, and

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Speaker 12: usually everyone comes in one side for the press conference,

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Speaker 12: And for whatever reason, a few weeks ago when they

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Speaker 12: won a game, he had happened to come down the

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Speaker 12: opposite side. So he did that for the last five weeks,

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Speaker 12: coming down the right side of it. And then this

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Speaker 12: past week after they lost, he came back and went

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Speaker 12: and did the other side. So he's you know, he's

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Speaker 12: showing us a little superstitious. But yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 12: think anyone first first time that job. They're going to

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Speaker 12: learn and they're going to get more comfortable, and we're

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Speaker 12: just seeing him settle in. I mean the way players

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Speaker 12: talk about him really the whole year, but especially as

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Speaker 12: his defenses really start to click.

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Speaker 15: It's like just the way they're kind of.

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Speaker 12: In awe of his knowledge of the game, the way

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Speaker 12: he sees things and tells them what's coming, and then

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Speaker 12: it happens the way he says it will.

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Speaker 15: It's, you know, he's he's really making a good impression.

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Speaker 12: King of Rabes. Did you know his longest career touchdown

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Speaker 12: came against the Vikings?

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 12: Eighty Rtdeen nineteen seventy six.

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Speaker 5: I believe you know what the thing about that is

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Speaker 5: He's probably told me that like twelve times, but I

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Speaker 5: just fifteen minutes ago.

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Speaker 4: That's probably the longest record. All Right, we're done.

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Speaker 12: Where two people got that.

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Speaker 4: Cutting everyone else? All right? He is John Boyle. You

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Speaker 4: can read John's work at Seahawks dot com. Wyman obviously

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Speaker 4: going to be on the call alongside Rabel and tune

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Speaker 4: into her bump on the Seahawks pre and postgame show.

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Speaker 4: Seahawks Taken on the Vikings Week sixteen, Sunday