WEBVTT - #673 Packers Unscripted: Tested and triumphant 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:10.520 Hi, everyone, Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:13.400 Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by my 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:16.560 partner in crime, Weston Hodkowits for coming to you here 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:19.759 from our studios at lambeau Field West here to talk 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:23.799 about Packers Buccaneers from Sunday at Raymond James Stadium in 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:28.200 Hot Tampa. It was a fourteen to twelve final score. 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:30.880 We can talk about the offense is hot start, the 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:36.640 struggles thereafter, the defenses dominating performance until the final drive, 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:39.440 but then they save it with the two point conversion stop. 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:42.360 The bottom line is the Packers are two and one, 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:46.840 and as Aaron Rodgers talked about after the game, considering 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.240 your schedule was at Minnesota home against Chicago at Tampa 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:53.279 Bay to start the year, to be too on one 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:56.080 right now, you take it and move on. You could 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:59.200 have opened the show with anything. We could have talked 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:01.200 about the game. You could have brought up your analysis 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:05.679 of you know, the most recent Marvel movie. You could 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.080 have discussed anything under the sun here, Mike and I 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:11.840 was going to respond with the same thing every Friday, 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.800 Mike spot for tonight in that spot over there, Matt 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.520 can't turn the cameras, it's okay, But in that spot 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:20.600 we do final thoughts for road games, and for the 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:25.440 first time, when the game ended, I finally said to myself, yeah, 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:29.479 not only did I did we discuss what was going 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:31.559 to be the key to victory, what needed to happen 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:35.039 for the Packers to win. It actually happened. The number 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:37.199 one thing that you and I both talked about last 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:41.960 week was a fast start, and you saw offensively how 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:44.880 far a fast start went against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.560 Matt Lafour talked about it on Monday. When you're facing 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.960 Tom Brady, you never feel comfortable. There's been enough evidence 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.200 in the past Super Bowl related to show you that 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.720 he's never quite out of a ball game. But for 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:59.160 the Packers to come out to ten plus play drives 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:02.600 out of the gate that both produced touchdowns, didn't just 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:06.600 get points, they got seven. It was the difference between 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.360 a potential win and a loss, and being in the 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:11.679 locker room afterwards. There were two of them. There was 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:13.919 offense defense. You were down with the head coach and 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:18.040 the quarterback. Kenny Clark, I thought had the quote of 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:20.960 the night where he said, in the past, these are 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:24.720 games typically we haven't won, and we won them. Not 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:27.000 only does that tell you about that defense you were 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.440 talking about, but it tells you about the resolve of 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.560 that group. The Packers win on the road against the 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:37.080 team that had its home opener and they want You 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.480 can't understate that. For things that need to be corrected, 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:41.760 there's plenty of them. But to get a road win 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:44.480 in that environment against that quarterback and that team with 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:47.600 Super Bowl aspirations a huge w for green Bay. Yeah, 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:49.640 And to follow up on what you said with regard 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.600 to how far a fast start can take you, the 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:56.440 Packers got that Buccaneers defense on its heels a little 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:00.000 bit right. Those first two drives ten plays, twelve plays, 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:03.040 six plus minutes a piece time of possession, you get 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.799 two touchdowns. The third drive is going just as well, 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:07.760 a different type of drive in that you had the 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:10.280 big play to Randall Cob the forty yard catch and run. 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:12.840 You get into scoring position and you're knocking on the 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.920 door to possibly go up to three or at a 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:20.079 minimum seventeen to three, and unfortunately Aaron Jones gets sandwiched 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.480 at the two yard line by a couple of big 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.000 hits and the ball pops out the Buccaneers recover in 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:31.000 the end zone, and suddenly everything just changes for Green 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:35.320 Bay's offense, and that that play, that stop was was 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:38.680 the spark that Tampa Bay's defense needed. They kind of 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:40.880 snapped out of their doldrum, so to speak, and the 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.280 rest of the game, we saw the Tampa Bay defense 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:45.360 that we had seen the first two weeks of the 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:49.600 season and we expected to see. On the flip side, 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:54.360 we saw the Green Bay Packers defense that everybody was 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.040 hoping to see in the opener at Minnesota. We certainly 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:00.160 saw glimpses of it in Week two in Chicago, and 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:04.240 the Packers pretty defensively, pretty much played the four quarter 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:07.960 game that you were hoping for. Yes, Tom Brady drove 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.400 him eighty nine yards in the last three minutes in 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:13.240 the heat that you know, guys are tired, exhausted, and 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:16.760 Brady was Brady. He didn't gash them for some thirty 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:19.520 five forty yard pass or anything. He methodically moved him 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.719 down the field. He had plenty of time. They get 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.920 the touchdown and then it comes down to it comes 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:29.560 down to the two point conversion. Now, the Packers caught 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:33.520 a break here because for all of the wondering was 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.400 the touchdown play a delay a game. Maybe it was, 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:40.080 maybe it wasn't. There was no question that the initial 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.360 try on the two point play was delayed game and 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:44.880 they blew the whistle and stopped it. They backed him 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:48.479 up five yards. I don't know. I'll just preface by saying, 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:51.159 I don't know how when essentially from the start of 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.320 the fourth quarter, when the game is fourteen to six 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.440 and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers know that they are going 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.479 to go for two if they get a touchdown, how 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:00.520 you don't have a two point play a ready to 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:03.120 go and called and in the huddle, and they had 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:07.560 extra time because the game was paused for a little 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.479 bit while they were reviewing the gauge touchdown. Because he 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:13.040 took a big hit from Douglas in the end zone, 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.080 there was some question as to where the ball was 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:17.960 and did the ball touch the ground, did he hang 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:19.960 onto it. There was a little bit of a delay. 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:23.680 They're not an official review where they completely stopped everything, 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.880 but a delay to confirm that touchdown, and then the 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.200 Buccaneers still didn't get the snap off in time on 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:32.240 the two point conversion. Packers catch a break, he goes 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:34.280 back to the seven yard line. You know Brady is 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:35.880 gonna have to throw it from there. It's not a 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:39.800 run pass decision type of thing. And of Andre Campbell 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.080 makes the deflection. I don't know how the Buccaneers take 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.080 a delay a game on a two point conversion there 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:45.960 that that just stunned me. Do you know what I 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:49.120 loved about this game? You know, I'm a big UFC guy, 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:52.320 I like my m m A. This remind subject we 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:54.920 don't talk about, but go ahead, but I mean, this 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:58.839 reminded me of your decision in a UFC fight. You 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:00.640 don't know what that means, but I'm to educate you 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:04.280 a little bit. It's where you go to the judges scorecards. 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:09.240 And in my opinion, the Packers beat the Tampa Bay 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.400 Buccaneers two point victory. Right, How did the Packers win 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:16.120 this game? They beat them in every area of the matchup. 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:19.040 Think about this the running game green Base. It wasn't 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:22.600 overly productive, but they had twelve carries between Aaron Jones 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:26.480 in a J. Dillon running game for Tampa Bay Leonard four. 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:28.640 Nette wasn't able to get much going only what was 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:32.640 it twelve carries didn't get much going. Rogers early on 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.120 being able to finish those drives get points. That's what 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:39.479 Tampa Bay was unable to do. Pat o'donald outpunted Tampa Bay. 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:41.760 They won the field position battle. You go through all 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.359 these different check marks, well, you go to your final 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.400 play that you're talking about their Matt Lafleur discussed with 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:50.760 Joe Barry. Okay, we're on our heels right now. Tampa 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:54.040 Bay's driving. It might come down to a two part play. 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:58.200 Have your play ready, Tampa Bay. Now, Now, to be 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:01.440 fair to Byron Leftwich, in this off fens, they're trying 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.599 to just get back in this thing. They're trying to 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:05.680 get into the end zone to get that two point conversion. 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.520 The burden of proof is on them a little bit more. 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:12.000 But still, as you outline with all those different variations 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.000 and all those different scenarios that were playing out, to 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:15.800 be in a spot in which you take a delay 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.080 a game at that juncture of the game, you can't 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:21.040 do it. And I don't know all the ins and 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.280 outs of what Green Bay saw, but Devantrie Campbell mentioned 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:27.560 in the locker room afterwards, green Bay was ready for that. 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:31.040 Look when the receiver motions, when Russell Gauge motions back 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:33.520 in line. The way he did that tipped off in 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.000 the Packer's head. And as they said, there's no guarantees, 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:38.320 but from what they've seen on film that it looks 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.320 like it's going to be a snag concept. It looks 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.520 like they know where guys are going to go. And 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:46.040 when you watch that play, every single Green Bay defender 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:49.119 is where they're supposed to be. Campbell is in zone 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:51.640 coverage six ft four with his vertical goes up and 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:54.560 tips that ball. The Green Bay Packers get a victory. Yeah, 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:56.920 I have my what you might have missed with the 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:59.960 video clips this week, which is now on our web 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:03.080 site packers dot com as we speak, I broke down 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:07.120 a lot of Devandre Campbell's pass coverage UM and then 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:09.520 culminating a course in the two point play. And when 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:13.120 you look really closely at the two point play at 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:17.120 the end, you can see, as you said, West, the 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:21.240 Packers had everything covered. Leonard Fournette comes out of the backfield, 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:24.200 Adrian Amos picks him up. Cameron Braid the tight end, 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.360 does a stop route at the goal line. Eric Stokes 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:30.239 is right with him, and then with Gauge running the corner, route, 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.720 which is essentially he's running the corner route off of 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:34.640 the stop route. The stop route by the tight end 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.120 is supposed to draw the defense in, and then the 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:41.040 corner route is supposed to be open. And Darnell Savage 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.160 sprints to stick with gauge on the corner route and 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.920 he's all over him. And then so Campbell's your zone 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:50.000 guy while those other guys are kind of matched up 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.240 man to man as these routes develop, and he can 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:55.480 just watch Brady's eyes to see where does he want 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:58.800 to go with the football. And as you said, six 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:02.359 ft four, you can't coach six ft four at linebacker, 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:05.679 and that reach the length that he has, he gets 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.520 the deflection, it falls, it falls incomplete. The Packers then 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.840 recover the on side kick, the culmination of as you said, 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:15.040 a victorious day for the special teams, where the Packers 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:17.440 had the edge in that phase of the game with 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:21.240 the way Pat o'donnald punted, unfortunately catching a bad break 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:24.520 on on the running into the punter thing in the 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.360 back of the end zone, which cost the Packers a 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:28.960 whole bunch of field position. That's a kind of a 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:32.280 story for another day. But even with that, the Packers 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:36.400 won on special teams overall in this game with regard 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.800 to the field position, and then a smooth, no drama 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:42.640 recovery of an onside kick sort of cap that off 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.120 a really good day for Rich Pisaccio's unit. I was 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.400 really surprising. I don't know what the philosophy is with 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:50.680 how they handle their on side kicks for the Bucks. 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:54.600 I was really surprised that they tested Lazard over Romeo Dobbs, 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:56.480 who was the other option. If you watch the film 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.079 Lazard has been with, you know, Davante Adams was the 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:02.240 featured guy there those years, but Lazard was the opposite one. 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.720 Robert Tonyan did a little bit of it. They decided 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.439 to go after Lazard and it was a solid on 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:10.240 side kick attempt. But Alan is just so zoned in 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:13.360 and he's so experienced at it and so composed. Everybody 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.520 did their job. I mean, I don't know if you 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:19.319 want to dovetail into this right away, but just the 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:23.120 way that Rich Bisacci has coached these units. What what 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:26.880 a good solid discipline special teams coordinator can do is 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.880 take the talent that he has, take the players that 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:34.200 are available, and maximize their strengths. Um I think about 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.520 that from your jack cocos as your long snappers that 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.920 weren't long snappers that suddenly our NFL long snappers and 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.760 is doing a solid job. I think about Pat o'donald 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.760 and a guy that you know Chicago, let him, let 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:50.400 him hit the market, and the Packers scooped him up immediately, 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:54.520 Rudy Ford gets cut by Jacksonville. Rudy Ford is suddenly 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.760 every single time right in the punt returner's face as 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:01.559 a flyer, Key shan Nick Sin coming in not only 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:06.240 in relief of jyr Alexander and playing fifty seven defensive steps, 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:09.160 but playing on all the core special teams units were 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.600 grabbing a ball that ends up landing at the two 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.360 yard line. Mike, I'm not trying to throw anybody under 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.559 the bus. I'm not trying to rip on anything. But 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:18.600 you know, when was the last time that you recall 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:21.440 the Packers being able to kill a punt at a 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:24.520 two yard line? And then the implications that that had 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:26.920 for where that drive went. For the Buccaneers that go 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:29.760 three and out, all those little things matter, and I 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:33.680 think for the Green Bay Packers perspective, getting more consistency, 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:38.360 more durability, more disciplined from their special teams units. Today 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:40.360 this was the game, Mike where they didn't just they 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.080 weren't just a push. They were the advantage that Green 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.559 Bay has been looking for from the wefense. Yeah. Absolutely, 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:47.640 there are a handful of guys to talk about in 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:49.680 terms of the whether you want to call them the 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:52.040 heroes of the game or the unsung heroes of the game. 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:54.840 We mentioned a little bit already with Devandre Campbell, not 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.360 just the deflection on the two point conversion, but four 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:00.880 teen tackles in this game. Had ever an other good 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:04.000 solid plays in in pass coverage as well as against 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.760 the run. You had mentioned how for Net couldn't get going. 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:10.600 You know, Kenny Clark ends up with with two sacks 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.920 and was a force against the run all day long. 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:17.200 Romeo Dobbs, the rookie receiver eight receptions, gets his first 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:21.040 NFL touchdown. The eight receptions only one shy for the 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:25.160 of the single game Packers rookie record, which was Max 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:31.959 McGee's nine catches back in nine day. Yeah. So so, 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:35.320 Romeo Dobbs was close to uh close to setting a 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:38.040 rookie record and maybe maybe he'll get that one at 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.680 some point in a game this year, and a couple 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:43.360 of guys we've already mentioned to Keishan Nixon and Pat 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:47.120 O'donnald Nixon having to step in Alexander leaves the game 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:49.960 with a groin injury on the opening series of the game. 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:52.839 So then the rest of the way, Keishaw Nixon has 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:57.280 to balance being the nickel corner and then also his 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:00.600 special team's duties. Um, I think, I mean he ended 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:02.680 up on the field for a total of I believe 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:06.360 it was more than seventy snap seventy three snaps, more 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:09.240 than any other player for the Packers when you combine 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:13.559 his defense and special team snaps. Nixon really really bawled 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.800 out for this team. And then Pat O'Donnell, as Rich 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.520 Bisacchi talked about last week, sort of all the different 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:21.880 clubs in his bag as a golfer in terms of 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.720 the way, the way he can punt the ball, you know, 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.880 the style of punt where he wants to place it, 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:30.040 the coverage that the Packers have. The Buccaneers had to 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:34.600 start so many drives at their twenty or worse, and 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:38.680 you know, the Packers defense had so much field to defend. 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.800 The one time the Buccaneers did have a short field. 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:44.520 The Packers defense rose up and stopped him and and 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:46.240 and made him kick a field goal there in the 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:49.920 third quarter after Aaron Rodgers through an interception. So just 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.920 so many, so many things about this game for the Packers, 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:56.360 even with all of the offensive struggles from drive number 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:58.760 four all the way until the end of the game, 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.040 this was this was a game where all of the 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:05.080 phases had to do their part and they did just 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.439 enough to get it against a darn good team that 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:11.080 was was undermanned, just like the Packers were. Green Bay 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:14.440 was missing receivers. The Buccaneers are missing receivers. The offensive 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.640 line situation, Donovan Smith not playing, the Packers were rotating 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.880 David Baktyari Yashnaiman at left tackle. That was another story 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.480 in this game. But you know, when the Buccaneers are 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:25.600 back to full strength, just as when the Packers are 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:28.040 back to full strength, these are two teams that we're 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:30.080 going to be talking about um at the end of 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.360 this thing. And uh and we'll see maybe if there's 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.480 a rematch on the horizon. Yeah, and and the other 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:36.160 guy too. I mean, if you want to talk about 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.920 like Keishaan Nixon is an unsung hero, gets his first 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:42.360 career force fumble. The other guy that I thought was 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:47.120 like the unsung unsung hero was Jaren Reid. I mean, 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.400 when you look at Kenny Clarke, Kenny Clark had two sacks, 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:52.080 and Kenny deserve those sacks. What the plays that he's 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:54.280 created the last two weeks to not have one yet, 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:56.760 that was a travesty, So it's nice to see him 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.040 get rewarded for that. But on one of those sects 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:02.280 that that and he had, it was Jared Reid splitting 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.800 a double team in which he was getting held to 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:08.600 force Brady to come up in the pocket and create 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:12.320 a sack opportunity and almost got Brady down himself. Brady 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.600 Brady was able to keep his balance enough, which is 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.040 why Clark ends up getting credit for the sack because 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.680 Reid didn't get him on the ground, but Read against 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.280 the double team almost got Brady on the ground by himself. 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.240 So then what ends up happening for him later on 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.640 when Keishaw Nixon gets the force fumble, Read is the 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:28.920 one that's jumping on the top of it. Kay Walker 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:31.920 gets the first force fumble earlier in the game. Darn 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:35.040 Darniell Savage is jumping on it. When you talk about 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:39.560 total complete team victories, this was what you're discussing because Mike, 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:41.600 I know there are some people in Insider Inbox this 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:43.600 week asking about, well, what happened to the offense, what 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:45.320 happened to the defense late? Why are they back and 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:49.120 prevent defense? The one thing people need to understand is 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:54.360 they were not taking on the you know, uh, that 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:56.520 is a good football team. I don't want to use 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.760 any disparaging language towards any other team right now, but 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:04.120 it was not You're not facing a low FCS school there. 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.680 The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, as you indicated, are going to 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.520 be in this thing. For Green Bay to hold off 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:12.240 that charge, I thought said a lot, you know, and 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:14.800 and it just came from so many different areas. David 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:18.360 Baktre playing thirty five snaps, his biggest workload since tearing 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:20.800 his a c L year and a half ago, yosh 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:24.240 Naiman and him agreeing to do the rotation, there's just 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.520 when you look when Matt Lafleur did his post games 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:30.720 celebration and his speech to his guys, it is one 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.040 of those games which I think are the most rewarding 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.440 ones where you can point to all forty eight guys 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:37.280 that were up on that roster and see that each 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.000 of one of you have had something to do with 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.560 this thing. Yeah, that was a That was a big one. 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:43.440 That was a big one for the Packers to get. 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:47.240 Also in the sense that the way the game started 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:52.520 and the way the defense played for fifty seven minutes um, 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.200 it would have been such a shame to let that 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.600 one get away. And we all know, we all know 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.440 what that feels like when you just you know it's 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.520 a game that you should win, the way it's unfolding, 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:05.760 the way you're controlling all three phases of the game, 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:07.800 as you had talked about. And sometimes in the NFL, 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:11.480 these games get away from you. I mean, just ask 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:15.160 the Buffalo Bills who were down in Miami and ran 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:18.680 ninety offensive plays to Miami's thirty nine and gained four 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:21.560 hundred and nine seven yards to Miami's two hundred and 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:25.480 twelve and had eleven third down convergence to Miami's three, 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:28.480 and the Buffalo Bills lost the football game. And you 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:32.600 get on that flight home from Florida, coincidentally, and then 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:35.879 you're sitting there wondering, how in the world did we 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:39.119 lose that football game, the Packers found a way to 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:41.879 win it. And and that's that's what it takes in 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.639 this league, especially right now with the Screen Bay team, 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:47.879 where you're still going through the transition at receiver, you're 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:51.800 getting trying to get Romeo Dobs more involved. Um had 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.159 no choice but to be more involved because of the 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.040 injuries and the young man came through. You're trying to 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:00.960 get your offensive line healthy. This defense is now finding 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:03.879 its legs, establishing itself the unit that we saw in 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:06.560 training camp against the New Orleans Saints and those two 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:10.880 joint practices the Packers are. The Packers are getting there. 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:14.000 And the fact that, yeah, they there's plenty of stuff 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.080 to work on. But the fact that they're getting there 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:19.880 and there two and one with two of arguably their 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.600 toughest road trips of the year are out of the way, 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.560 now that's a pretty good spot, big picture wise, to 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:29.280 be in. And I was asked the question insider inbox um, 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:31.879 which I thought was a really good question, which was, 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:34.200 you know, other than you know, a week earlier, Matt 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:35.800 la Floor had talked about if we don't have Elton 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:37.800 Jenkins back, we don't know if we win this game. 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:40.080 I don't know if we win this game. Somebody asked 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:41.960 me that, but they said, you know, if it's not 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:44.080 Aaron Rodgers who needed to play for the Packers to 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:46.720 win this thing, I've said Romeo Dobbs, and I said 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:49.040 devanre Campbell and Romeo game a lot of credit. As 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:50.840 you outlined with the game he had. The way he 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:54.639 started that thing really critical. But that precondition that the 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.000 guy put in there, Rodgers, I thought was really important 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:59.960 because this is a game where as much that was 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:02.560 made out of Rogers and Brady this week from the outside, 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:05.560 it was a game where you needed a quarterback like 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:09.840 Aaron Rodgers to handle the situation he was presented. I 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:11.720 when I when we got done with this whole thing, 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:13.520 and I'm starting to look back at the highlights on 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:19.040 video afterwards. I was blown away by how talented Aaron 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:22.640 Rodgers and Tom Brady are and I am fully convinced 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:26.600 if Tom Brady wanted to, he could test fifty because 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:30.639 of the way he has mastered that position. Mike, I 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:35.359 watched Sunday Night Football, I watched Monday Night football. Quarterback 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:39.720 play shouldn't look that effortless in those two guys, especially 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:43.760 against good defense. Against good defenses. In those two guys 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:47.359 gave their teams a chance to win, and that's what 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:50.840 the grades do. That side of it, in kind of 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:54.960 a knockdown, drag out war is just really something special 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:58.439 to watch. Yeah, absolutely no question about it. UM a 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:01.960 little sponsored business here. West Serious x M. NFL Radio 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:04.960 delivers hard hitting analysis and up to the minute NFL 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:09.760 news that true football fanatics need. Seven three and at 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:12.520 Cousin Subs, we have something for everyone like our Wisconsin 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:15.840 cheese curds, mac and cheese, golden fries, and creamy shakes, 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:18.480 all paired with your favorite sub or sub in a bowl. 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:23.160 Cousin Subs fifty years of better. All right, I want 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:26.520 to talk a little bit about what else happened in 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:29.560 Week three in the NFL, first and foremost being that 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:35.240