1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by my 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: partner in crime, Weston Hodkowits for coming to you here 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: from our studios at lambeau Field West here to talk 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: about Packers Buccaneers from Sunday at Raymond James Stadium in 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: Hot Tampa. It was a fourteen to twelve final score. 7 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: We can talk about the offense is hot start, the 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: struggles thereafter, the defenses dominating performance until the final drive, 9 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: but then they save it with the two point conversion stop. 10 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: The bottom line is the Packers are two and one, 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: and as Aaron Rodgers talked about after the game, considering 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: your schedule was at Minnesota home against Chicago at Tampa 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: Bay to start the year, to be too on one 14 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: right now, you take it and move on. You could 15 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: have opened the show with anything. We could have talked 16 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: about the game. You could have brought up your analysis 17 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: of you know, the most recent Marvel movie. You could 18 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: have discussed anything under the sun here, Mike and I 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: was going to respond with the same thing every Friday, 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: Mike spot for tonight in that spot over there, Matt 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: can't turn the cameras, it's okay, But in that spot 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: we do final thoughts for road games, and for the 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: first time, when the game ended, I finally said to myself, yeah, 24 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: not only did I did we discuss what was going 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 1: to be the key to victory, what needed to happen 26 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: for the Packers to win. It actually happened. The number 27 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 1: one thing that you and I both talked about last 28 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: week was a fast start, and you saw offensively how 29 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: far a fast start went against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 30 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: Matt Lafour talked about it on Monday. When you're facing 31 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, you never feel comfortable. There's been enough evidence 32 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: in the past Super Bowl related to show you that 33 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: he's never quite out of a ball game. But for 34 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: the Packers to come out to ten plus play drives 35 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: out of the gate that both produced touchdowns, didn't just 36 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: get points, they got seven. It was the difference between 37 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: a potential win and a loss, and being in the 38 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 1: locker room afterwards. There were two of them. There was 39 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: offense defense. You were down with the head coach and 40 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Kenny Clark, I thought had the quote of 41 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: the night where he said, in the past, these are 42 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: games typically we haven't won, and we won them. Not 43 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: only does that tell you about that defense you were 44 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: talking about, but it tells you about the resolve of 45 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: that group. The Packers win on the road against the 46 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: team that had its home opener and they want You 47 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: can't understate that. For things that need to be corrected, 48 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: there's plenty of them. But to get a road win 49 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: in that environment against that quarterback and that team with 50 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl aspirations a huge w for green Bay. Yeah, 51 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: And to follow up on what you said with regard 52 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: to how far a fast start can take you, the 53 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: Packers got that Buccaneers defense on its heels a little 54 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: bit right. Those first two drives ten plays, twelve plays, 55 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: six plus minutes a piece time of possession, you get 56 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: two touchdowns. The third drive is going just as well, 57 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: a different type of drive in that you had the 58 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: big play to Randall Cob the forty yard catch and run. 59 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: You get into scoring position and you're knocking on the 60 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: door to possibly go up to three or at a 61 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: minimum seventeen to three, and unfortunately Aaron Jones gets sandwiched 62 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: at the two yard line by a couple of big 63 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: hits and the ball pops out the Buccaneers recover in 64 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: the end zone, and suddenly everything just changes for Green 65 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: Bay's offense, and that that play, that stop was was 66 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: the spark that Tampa Bay's defense needed. They kind of 67 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: snapped out of their doldrum, so to speak, and the 68 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: rest of the game, we saw the Tampa Bay defense 69 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: that we had seen the first two weeks of the 70 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: season and we expected to see. On the flip side, 71 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: we saw the Green Bay Packers defense that everybody was 72 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: hoping to see in the opener at Minnesota. We certainly 73 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: saw glimpses of it in Week two in Chicago, and 74 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: the Packers pretty defensively, pretty much played the four quarter 75 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: game that you were hoping for. Yes, Tom Brady drove 76 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: him eighty nine yards in the last three minutes in 77 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: the heat that you know, guys are tired, exhausted, and 78 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: Brady was Brady. He didn't gash them for some thirty 79 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: five forty yard pass or anything. He methodically moved him 80 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: down the field. He had plenty of time. They get 81 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: the touchdown and then it comes down to it comes 82 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: down to the two point conversion. Now, the Packers caught 83 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: a break here because for all of the wondering was 84 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: the touchdown play a delay a game. Maybe it was, 85 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't. There was no question that the initial 86 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: try on the two point play was delayed game and 87 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: they blew the whistle and stopped it. They backed him 88 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: up five yards. I don't know. I'll just preface by saying, 89 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: I don't know how when essentially from the start of 90 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, when the game is fourteen to six 91 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers know that they are going 92 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: to go for two if they get a touchdown, how 93 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: you don't have a two point play a ready to 94 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: go and called and in the huddle, and they had 95 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: extra time because the game was paused for a little 96 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: bit while they were reviewing the gauge touchdown. Because he 97 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: took a big hit from Douglas in the end zone, 98 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: there was some question as to where the ball was 99 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: and did the ball touch the ground, did he hang 100 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: onto it. There was a little bit of a delay. 101 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: They're not an official review where they completely stopped everything, 102 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: but a delay to confirm that touchdown, and then the 103 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: Buccaneers still didn't get the snap off in time on 104 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: the two point conversion. Packers catch a break, he goes 105 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: back to the seven yard line. You know Brady is 106 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: gonna have to throw it from there. It's not a 107 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: run pass decision type of thing. And of Andre Campbell 108 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: makes the deflection. I don't know how the Buccaneers take 109 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: a delay a game on a two point conversion there 110 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: that that just stunned me. Do you know what I 111 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: loved about this game? You know, I'm a big UFC guy, 112 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: I like my m m A. This remind subject we 113 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: don't talk about, but go ahead, but I mean, this 114 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: reminded me of your decision in a UFC fight. You 115 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: don't know what that means, but I'm to educate you 116 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. It's where you go to the judges scorecards. 117 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: And in my opinion, the Packers beat the Tampa Bay 118 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: Buccaneers two point victory. Right, How did the Packers win 119 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: this game? They beat them in every area of the matchup. 120 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: Think about this the running game green Base. It wasn't 121 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: overly productive, but they had twelve carries between Aaron Jones 122 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: in a J. Dillon running game for Tampa Bay Leonard four. 123 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: Nette wasn't able to get much going only what was 124 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: it twelve carries didn't get much going. Rogers early on 125 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: being able to finish those drives get points. That's what 126 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay was unable to do. Pat o'donald outpunted Tampa Bay. 127 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: They won the field position battle. You go through all 128 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: these different check marks, well, you go to your final 129 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: play that you're talking about their Matt Lafleur discussed with 130 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: Joe Barry. Okay, we're on our heels right now. Tampa 131 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: Bay's driving. It might come down to a two part play. 132 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: Have your play ready, Tampa Bay. Now, Now, to be 133 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: fair to Byron Leftwich, in this off fens, they're trying 134 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: to just get back in this thing. They're trying to 135 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: get into the end zone to get that two point conversion. 136 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: The burden of proof is on them a little bit more. 137 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: But still, as you outline with all those different variations 138 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: and all those different scenarios that were playing out, to 139 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: be in a spot in which you take a delay 140 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: a game at that juncture of the game, you can't 141 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: do it. And I don't know all the ins and 142 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: outs of what Green Bay saw, but Devantrie Campbell mentioned 143 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: in the locker room afterwards, green Bay was ready for that. 144 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: Look when the receiver motions, when Russell Gauge motions back 145 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: in line. The way he did that tipped off in 146 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: the Packer's head. And as they said, there's no guarantees, 147 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: but from what they've seen on film that it looks 148 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: like it's going to be a snag concept. It looks 149 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: like they know where guys are going to go. And 150 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: when you watch that play, every single Green Bay defender 151 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,119 Speaker 1: is where they're supposed to be. Campbell is in zone 152 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: coverage six ft four with his vertical goes up and 153 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: tips that ball. The Green Bay Packers get a victory. Yeah, 154 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: I have my what you might have missed with the 155 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: video clips this week, which is now on our web 156 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: site packers dot com as we speak, I broke down 157 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: a lot of Devandre Campbell's pass coverage UM and then 158 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: culminating a course in the two point play. And when 159 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: you look really closely at the two point play at 160 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: the end, you can see, as you said, West, the 161 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: Packers had everything covered. Leonard Fournette comes out of the backfield, 162 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: Adrian Amos picks him up. Cameron Braid the tight end, 163 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: does a stop route at the goal line. Eric Stokes 164 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,239 Speaker 1: is right with him, and then with Gauge running the corner, route, 165 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: which is essentially he's running the corner route off of 166 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: the stop route. The stop route by the tight end 167 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: is supposed to draw the defense in, and then the 168 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: corner route is supposed to be open. And Darnell Savage 169 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: sprints to stick with gauge on the corner route and 170 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: he's all over him. And then so Campbell's your zone 171 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: guy while those other guys are kind of matched up 172 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: man to man as these routes develop, and he can 173 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: just watch Brady's eyes to see where does he want 174 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: to go with the football. And as you said, six 175 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,359 Speaker 1: ft four, you can't coach six ft four at linebacker, 176 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: and that reach the length that he has, he gets 177 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: the deflection, it falls, it falls incomplete. The Packers then 178 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: recover the on side kick, the culmination of as you said, 179 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: a victorious day for the special teams, where the Packers 180 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: had the edge in that phase of the game with 181 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: the way Pat o'donnald punted, unfortunately catching a bad break 182 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: on on the running into the punter thing in the 183 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: back of the end zone, which cost the Packers a 184 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: whole bunch of field position. That's a kind of a 185 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: story for another day. But even with that, the Packers 186 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: won on special teams overall in this game with regard 187 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: to the field position, and then a smooth, no drama 188 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: recovery of an onside kick sort of cap that off 189 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: a really good day for Rich Pisaccio's unit. I was 190 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: really surprising. I don't know what the philosophy is with 191 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: how they handle their on side kicks for the Bucks. 192 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: I was really surprised that they tested Lazard over Romeo Dobbs, 193 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: who was the other option. If you watch the film 194 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: Lazard has been with, you know, Davante Adams was the 195 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: featured guy there those years, but Lazard was the opposite one. 196 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: Robert Tonyan did a little bit of it. They decided 197 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: to go after Lazard and it was a solid on 198 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: side kick attempt. But Alan is just so zoned in 199 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: and he's so experienced at it and so composed. Everybody 200 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: did their job. I mean, I don't know if you 201 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: want to dovetail into this right away, but just the 202 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: way that Rich Bisacci has coached these units. What what 203 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: a good solid discipline special teams coordinator can do is 204 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: take the talent that he has, take the players that 205 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: are available, and maximize their strengths. Um I think about 206 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: that from your jack cocos as your long snappers that 207 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: weren't long snappers that suddenly our NFL long snappers and 208 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: is doing a solid job. I think about Pat o'donald 209 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: and a guy that you know Chicago, let him, let 210 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: him hit the market, and the Packers scooped him up immediately, 211 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: Rudy Ford gets cut by Jacksonville. Rudy Ford is suddenly 212 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: every single time right in the punt returner's face as 213 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: a flyer, Key shan Nick Sin coming in not only 214 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: in relief of jyr Alexander and playing fifty seven defensive steps, 215 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: but playing on all the core special teams units were 216 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: grabbing a ball that ends up landing at the two 217 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: yard line. Mike, I'm not trying to throw anybody under 218 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: the bus. I'm not trying to rip on anything. But 219 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: you know, when was the last time that you recall 220 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: the Packers being able to kill a punt at a 221 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: two yard line? And then the implications that that had 222 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: for where that drive went. For the Buccaneers that go 223 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: three and out, all those little things matter, and I 224 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: think for the Green Bay Packers perspective, getting more consistency, 225 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: more durability, more disciplined from their special teams units. Today 226 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: this was the game, Mike where they didn't just they 227 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: weren't just a push. They were the advantage that Green 228 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: Bay has been looking for from the wefense. Yeah. Absolutely, 229 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: there are a handful of guys to talk about in 230 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: terms of the whether you want to call them the 231 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: heroes of the game or the unsung heroes of the game. 232 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: We mentioned a little bit already with Devandre Campbell, not 233 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: just the deflection on the two point conversion, but four 234 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: teen tackles in this game. Had ever an other good 235 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: solid plays in in pass coverage as well as against 236 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: the run. You had mentioned how for Net couldn't get going. 237 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: You know, Kenny Clark ends up with with two sacks 238 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: and was a force against the run all day long. 239 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs, the rookie receiver eight receptions, gets his first 240 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: NFL touchdown. The eight receptions only one shy for the 241 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: of the single game Packers rookie record, which was Max 242 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: McGee's nine catches back in nine day. Yeah. So so, 243 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs was close to uh close to setting a 244 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: rookie record and maybe maybe he'll get that one at 245 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: some point in a game this year, and a couple 246 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: of guys we've already mentioned to Keishan Nixon and Pat 247 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: O'donnald Nixon having to step in Alexander leaves the game 248 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: with a groin injury on the opening series of the game. 249 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: So then the rest of the way, Keishaw Nixon has 250 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: to balance being the nickel corner and then also his 251 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: special team's duties. Um, I think, I mean he ended 252 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: up on the field for a total of I believe 253 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: it was more than seventy snap seventy three snaps, more 254 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: than any other player for the Packers when you combine 255 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: his defense and special team snaps. Nixon really really bawled 256 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: out for this team. And then Pat O'Donnell, as Rich 257 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: Bisacchi talked about last week, sort of all the different 258 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: clubs in his bag as a golfer in terms of 259 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: the way, the way he can punt the ball, you know, 260 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: the style of punt where he wants to place it, 261 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: the coverage that the Packers have. The Buccaneers had to 262 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: start so many drives at their twenty or worse, and 263 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: you know, the Packers defense had so much field to defend. 264 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: The one time the Buccaneers did have a short field. 265 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: The Packers defense rose up and stopped him and and 266 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: and made him kick a field goal there in the 267 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: third quarter after Aaron Rodgers through an interception. So just 268 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: so many, so many things about this game for the Packers, 269 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: even with all of the offensive struggles from drive number 270 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: four all the way until the end of the game, 271 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: this was this was a game where all of the 272 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: phases had to do their part and they did just 273 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: enough to get it against a darn good team that 274 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: was was undermanned, just like the Packers were. Green Bay 275 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: was missing receivers. The Buccaneers are missing receivers. The offensive 276 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: line situation, Donovan Smith not playing, the Packers were rotating 277 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: David Baktyari Yashnaiman at left tackle. That was another story 278 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: in this game. But you know, when the Buccaneers are 279 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: back to full strength, just as when the Packers are 280 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: back to full strength, these are two teams that we're 281 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: going to be talking about um at the end of 282 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: this thing. And uh and we'll see maybe if there's 283 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: a rematch on the horizon. Yeah, and and the other 284 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: guy too. I mean, if you want to talk about 285 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: like Keishaan Nixon is an unsung hero, gets his first 286 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: career force fumble. The other guy that I thought was 287 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: like the unsung unsung hero was Jaren Reid. I mean, 288 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: when you look at Kenny Clarke, Kenny Clark had two sacks, 289 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: and Kenny deserve those sacks. What the plays that he's 290 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: created the last two weeks to not have one yet, 291 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: that was a travesty, So it's nice to see him 292 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: get rewarded for that. But on one of those sects 293 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: that that and he had, it was Jared Reid splitting 294 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: a double team in which he was getting held to 295 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: force Brady to come up in the pocket and create 296 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: a sack opportunity and almost got Brady down himself. Brady 297 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: Brady was able to keep his balance enough, which is 298 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: why Clark ends up getting credit for the sack because 299 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: Reid didn't get him on the ground, but Read against 300 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: the double team almost got Brady on the ground by himself. 301 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: So then what ends up happening for him later on 302 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: when Keishaw Nixon gets the force fumble, Read is the 303 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: one that's jumping on the top of it. Kay Walker 304 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: gets the first force fumble earlier in the game. Darn 305 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: Darniell Savage is jumping on it. When you talk about 306 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: total complete team victories, this was what you're discussing because Mike, 307 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: I know there are some people in Insider Inbox this 308 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: week asking about, well, what happened to the offense, what 309 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: happened to the defense late? Why are they back and 310 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: prevent defense? The one thing people need to understand is 311 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: they were not taking on the you know, uh, that 312 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: is a good football team. I don't want to use 313 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: any disparaging language towards any other team right now, but 314 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: it was not You're not facing a low FCS school there. 315 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, as you indicated, are going to 316 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: be in this thing. For Green Bay to hold off 317 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: that charge, I thought said a lot, you know, and 318 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: and it just came from so many different areas. David 319 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: Baktre playing thirty five snaps, his biggest workload since tearing 320 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: his a c L year and a half ago, yosh 321 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: Naiman and him agreeing to do the rotation, there's just 322 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: when you look when Matt Lafleur did his post games 323 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: celebration and his speech to his guys, it is one 324 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: of those games which I think are the most rewarding 325 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: ones where you can point to all forty eight guys 326 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: that were up on that roster and see that each 327 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: of one of you have had something to do with 328 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: this thing. Yeah, that was a That was a big one. 329 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: That was a big one for the Packers to get. 330 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: Also in the sense that the way the game started 331 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: and the way the defense played for fifty seven minutes um, 332 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: it would have been such a shame to let that 333 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: one get away. And we all know, we all know 334 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: what that feels like when you just you know it's 335 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: a game that you should win, the way it's unfolding, 336 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: the way you're controlling all three phases of the game, 337 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: as you had talked about. And sometimes in the NFL, 338 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: these games get away from you. I mean, just ask 339 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills who were down in Miami and ran 340 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: ninety offensive plays to Miami's thirty nine and gained four 341 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: hundred and nine seven yards to Miami's two hundred and 342 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: twelve and had eleven third down convergence to Miami's three, 343 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: and the Buffalo Bills lost the football game. And you 344 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: get on that flight home from Florida, coincidentally, and then 345 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: you're sitting there wondering, how in the world did we 346 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: lose that football game, the Packers found a way to 347 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: win it. And and that's that's what it takes in 348 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: this league, especially right now with the Screen Bay team, 349 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: where you're still going through the transition at receiver, you're 350 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: getting trying to get Romeo Dobs more involved. Um had 351 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: no choice but to be more involved because of the 352 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: injuries and the young man came through. You're trying to 353 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: get your offensive line healthy. This defense is now finding 354 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: its legs, establishing itself the unit that we saw in 355 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: training camp against the New Orleans Saints and those two 356 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: joint practices the Packers are. The Packers are getting there. 357 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: And the fact that, yeah, they there's plenty of stuff 358 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: to work on. But the fact that they're getting there 359 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: and there two and one with two of arguably their 360 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: toughest road trips of the year are out of the way, 361 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: now that's a pretty good spot, big picture wise, to 362 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: be in. And I was asked the question insider inbox um, 363 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: which I thought was a really good question, which was, 364 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, other than you know, a week earlier, Matt 365 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: la Floor had talked about if we don't have Elton 366 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: Jenkins back, we don't know if we win this game. 367 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if we win this game. Somebody asked 368 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: me that, but they said, you know, if it's not 369 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers who needed to play for the Packers to 370 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: win this thing, I've said Romeo Dobbs, and I said 371 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: devanre Campbell and Romeo game a lot of credit. As 372 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: you outlined with the game he had. The way he 373 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: started that thing really critical. But that precondition that the 374 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: guy put in there, Rodgers, I thought was really important 375 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: because this is a game where as much that was 376 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: made out of Rogers and Brady this week from the outside, 377 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: it was a game where you needed a quarterback like 378 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers to handle the situation he was presented. I 379 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: when I when we got done with this whole thing, 380 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: and I'm starting to look back at the highlights on 381 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: video afterwards. I was blown away by how talented Aaron 382 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: Rodgers and Tom Brady are and I am fully convinced 383 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: if Tom Brady wanted to, he could test fifty because 384 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: of the way he has mastered that position. Mike, I 385 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: watched Sunday Night Football, I watched Monday Night football. Quarterback 386 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: play shouldn't look that effortless in those two guys, especially 387 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: against good defense. Against good defenses. In those two guys 388 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: gave their teams a chance to win, and that's what 389 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: the grades do. That side of it, in kind of 390 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: a knockdown, drag out war is just really something special 391 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: to watch. Yeah, absolutely no question about it. UM a 392 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: little sponsored business here. West Serious x M. NFL Radio 393 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: delivers hard hitting analysis and up to the minute NFL 394 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: news that true football fanatics need. Seven three and at 395 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: Cousin Subs, we have something for everyone like our Wisconsin 396 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: cheese curds, mac and cheese, golden fries, and creamy shakes, 397 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: all paired with your favorite sub or sub in a bowl. 398 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: Cousin Subs fifty years of better. All right, I want 399 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about what else happened in 400 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: Week three in the NFL, first and foremost being that 401 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: with the Packers beating the Buccaneers, but then also Buffalo 402 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: losing as I mentioned, Kansas City losing on the road 403 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: to Indianapolis, the New York Giants losing at home on 404 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: Monday Night to the Dallas Cowboys. Suddenly there are only 405 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,479 Speaker 1: two undefeated teams after three weeks of the season, and 406 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: that's the Miami Dolphins and the Philadelphia Eagles. Two teams. 407 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: The Packers will play both on the road later this season. 408 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: But here we are West, there's only there's only two 409 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: three and oh teams left to go in the NFC North. 410 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: Three teams are at two and one, with the Packers, 411 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: the Vikings, and the Bears. Following Minnesota's come back went 412 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: over Detroit and Chicago pulling out a walk off field 413 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: goal victory over Lovey Smith and the Houston Texans. I 414 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts a little bit on the 415 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: Minnesota Detroit game, because Detroit looked like it had this 416 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: game one a few times. They jumped out fourteen to nothing. 417 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: Minnesota comes back, ties at fourteen all. Then in the 418 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: second half the Lions get ahead, but then they let 419 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: it get away and they lose on a thirty sum 420 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,959 Speaker 1: yard touchdown pass where kJ Osbourne's wide open with like 421 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 1: thirty seconds left in the game. And uh and the 422 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: Vikings escape at home from a from a Lions team 423 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: that gave them absolutely everything they could handle. That's a 424 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: that's a result that you know, could have some pretty 425 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: big implications here as the as the rest of the 426 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: NFC North season unfolds. But um, Minnesota two and one, 427 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: just like the packers, some bearras. Yep, yeah, and you 428 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: tip your captain Minnesota for winning that type of matchups. 429 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: Certainly having it at their place I think definitely helped 430 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: Detroit is interesting to me. They're probably maybe the most 431 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: interesting team in the NFC right now just because of 432 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: all the things that they have going for themselves. You know, 433 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: whether it's you know, their their first round pick, in 434 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: the impact he's been making early on. It looks like 435 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: Jeff Akuta has put the Achilles injury behind him, the 436 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: slow start behind him. He did a bang up job 437 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: against Justin Jefferson, but ultimately Mike. As many things happened 438 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: in this game, it really told me this the Detroit 439 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: Lions are going to go. As far as DeAndre Swift 440 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: takes them. They are a different offense when he's either 441 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: not available or working through some stuff. Give credit to 442 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: Jamal Williams did a fine job in that game, but 443 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: william Swift is their home run hitter, and they just everything. 444 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: It seems like with Jared Goff changes based on his availability. 445 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: I thought this was one of those matchups, and to 446 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 1: Minnesota's credit, they had to work through their own issues 447 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: with Dlvin cook Um and they get it, and and 448 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: they were able to get that victory and and certainly, 449 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: uh you know, bounce back after a big letdown in 450 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: week two. Well, a lot of questions in Detroit with 451 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: regard to the decisions at the end of the game 452 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: with the fourth and four when earlier in the fourth 453 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: quarter and Dan Campbell had been going forward on fourth 454 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,959 Speaker 1: down all throughout the game. There's a fourth and one 455 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, the Lions are up by three. 456 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: They pass on a I believe it would have been 457 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: about a forty nine yard field goal, and the kicker 458 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: had missed from forty eight yards earlier in the game. 459 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: They go for it on fourth and one, they don't 460 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: get it. They're presented with a similar situation with just 461 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: over a minute to go. It's fourth and four and 462 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: it's a fifty four yard field goal, with the kicker 463 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: having missed from forty eight earlier in the game. And 464 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: then Campbell, after going forward on fourth down all day long, 465 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: decides to try the fifty four yard field goal. The 466 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: kicker misses it badly. Minnesota then takes over the ball 467 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: at the forty four yard line with great field position 468 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: um and quite frankly, Campbell owned it. Um, you know said, yeah, 469 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: I made made the wrong decision there. I should have 470 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: should have stuck with what, you know, what they've been 471 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: doing throughout the course of the game, which was to 472 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: go for it on fourth down and keep the ball 473 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: in their offenses hands. And unfortunately those You can do 474 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: so much and we almost saw it in the Packers game, 475 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: as I said, the fifty seven minutes with with what 476 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: this defense had done against Tom Brady and the Buccaneers. 477 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: You can do so much right in a football game 478 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: for fifty minutes, for fifty five, for fifty nine and 479 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: a half minutes, and something, you know, a decision, one play, 480 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: a bad bounce, a bad call, something can go something 481 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: can go wrong, and uh and it can cost you 482 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: a victory. And and it's it can be. It can 483 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: be so demoralizing. And yet this league is all about 484 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: how do you pick yourself back up and keep going because, 485 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: as Matt Lafleur likes to say, nobody cares about your adversity. Right, 486 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: everybody's got another game the next week, and you have 487 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: to get ready to go play and try to chuck 488 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: up a w whatever it takes. There's one aspect with 489 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: the Campbell thing that bothered me though, and you and 490 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: I discussed this on the plane ride home. He's right 491 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: about the fifty four yard and about going for it 492 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: on fourth down, but it reminds me. And I don't 493 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: want to say the player because I want to make 494 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: sure I don't miss represent what his words were. But 495 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: I remember about fifteen years ago, I think there was 496 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: a Brewers player that talked maybe ten years ago, talked about, 497 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, his his philosophy at the plate and for 498 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: boiling down and making a long story short. He basically 499 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: surmises to he he basically makes up his mind on 500 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: what he's doing before the pitch even comes. That's kind 501 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: of what this fourth down things sort of felt like 502 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: with me with Campbell. It's like, it's great to have 503 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: confidence in your guys and do all this, but I 504 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: think at some point you need to have a little 505 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: bit of analysis and a little bit of self reflection 506 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: on the situation, because otherwise it isn't that you're necessarily 507 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: being aggressive or a riverboat guy or anything. It's just 508 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: now you're just sort of that's what you are. And 509 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: if you flip a coin enough times or you bet 510 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: on red enough times, it's gonna come out black. So like, 511 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: I think there needs to be some game situation awareness 512 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: in there as well. You respect what he's doing, but 513 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: I think if you flip that coin too many times, 514 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: or you keep you know, betting on that same color, 515 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: it's eventually gonna you know, you're gonna come up with craps. 516 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: And for the Lions, that sort of worked out that 517 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: way well, and and it's it's it's also difficult from 518 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: a leadership standpoint too, because you know those decisions and 519 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: how the game unfolds, and then the decisions you're making 520 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: crunch time. It sends certain messages to your guys, right, 521 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: And what I think is difficult in that spot is 522 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: when you've gone forward on fourth down five times in 523 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: the game, you've converted four out of five. You were 524 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: four out of four until they stopped you on a 525 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: fourth and one. But yet you know you're not a 526 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: hundred percent confident in in your kicker making a fifty 527 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: four yard or and yet at fourth and fourth, then 528 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: suddenly that's the moment, with a minute ten on the 529 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: clock that you tell your offense, Nope, we're going to 530 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: kick at this time. You know, you know, yeah, exactly. 531 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: That's why that's why these guys get paid the big 532 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: bucks and and uh and they have to answer for it. 533 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: But but here we are West. As I start with 534 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: this review of Week three, three weeks into the NFL season, 535 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: there have been according to a statistic I saw in ESPN, 536 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: there have been eighteen games in the NFL decided by 537 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: three points or fewer, which is the most ever in 538 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: the first three weeks of an NFL season, and only 539 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: two out of thirty two teams are unblemished at this point. 540 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: At at three and O, um buckle up right, this 541 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: is I mean, there are fourteen regular season games left, 542 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: plus the playoffs. This is gonna be some wild ride 543 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: here in the NFL. Exactly, Mike. And there is one 544 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: team that's owin three in the Las Vegas Raiders. And 545 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: when you talk about those close narrow victories or close 546 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: narrow losses in their case, that shows you the margin 547 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: for air. And absolutely Matt Lafleur says it's so much, 548 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: and he jokes about he says it's a cliche, but 549 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: it is not easy to win in this league. Just 550 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: look at the Raiders. Just as easily as the Miami 551 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: Dolphins are three and O, the Raiders are three right, 552 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: that's just the way this thing works. And for the 553 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, as Aaron Rodgers said after the game, 554 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: to beat two and one after their first three, coming 555 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: back into this home stretch or friendly or stretch, now 556 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: you're feeling pretty good about things. Yeah, no question about it. 557 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: With that, we'll call it a wrap on this edition 558 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of our 559 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: coverage of the team on Packers dot com. For West, 560 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm Mike. Thank you for tuning in, everybody, you See 561 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: you next time.