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Speaker 2: our YouTube channel as well. We have two guests today

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Speaker 2: in the final hour before we get to what we

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Speaker 2: learned later on the show, Greg Cosell, who joins me

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Speaker 2: every week on the Rosstucker Podcast. He'll be up in

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Speaker 2: about twenty minutes. Nobody breaks down the quarterbacks like Greg.

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Speaker 2: But it's college hoops time. It right now is when

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Speaker 2: I get engaged with college basketball. Football's behind us. You know,

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Speaker 2: we got a month and a half before the draft.

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Speaker 2: Right now is when I engage Maverick and get ready

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Speaker 2: to watch these conference tournaments as well as obviously March. Matt,

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Speaker 3: Paulley as a nice quick reference, engage mavericks work.

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Speaker 2: You know what else I use from that movie a lot?

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Speaker 2: Bys This thing will be over in two minutes. Do

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Speaker 2: you remember that?

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Speaker 3: Does it bother you when people don't get references like

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Speaker 3: that if you make that joke with a bunch of.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because Marv's is looking at me like he does

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Speaker 2: no idea what I'm talking about. Marv's like staring through

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Speaker 2: my my my soul right lost? Is that from like

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Speaker 2: a Western or something?

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Speaker 4: Maverick seatan even know you're messaging type of Western movie

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Speaker 5: I didn't see the one yet though, you didn't see Maverick.

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Speaker 2: No, how is that possible that you I don't want

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't watch very many movies. I have kids.

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Speaker 2: I care about my children. I like to spend time with

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Speaker 5: You gotta change that up, man, What do you mean

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Speaker 5: you gotta care about them?

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Speaker 2: You watch TV shows and you go to movies. I

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Speaker 2: spend quality time with my children. I'm a I'm a

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Speaker 5: Take mistake, seatan.

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Speaker 2: Did you watch the first one Top Gun of course,

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Speaker 2: like twenty times? Yeah? Then you saw the second one? Seriously. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So when I was leaving the Eagles postgame Super Bowl party,

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Speaker 2: that guy was walking in though, Miles Miles Teller, Miles Teller,

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Speaker 2: he was. He was walking in while I was walking out.

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Speaker 2: I had to catch the red eye back. But I've

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Speaker 2: never seen the movies. I don't really know much about

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Speaker 2: him other than he's popular and he's an Eagles fan.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to John Rothstein. He's a CBS Sports college

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Speaker 2: basketball insider. By the way, when I first got in

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Speaker 2: on injured reserve with the Washington football team. Made a

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Speaker 2: different name. Back then. I did a TV show with

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Speaker 2: John Rothstein. At times, I don't even remember the name

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Speaker 2: of the show. John, Do you remember this name of

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Speaker 2: the show? Seth was the producer. It was like we

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Speaker 4: I think it was out of line on c or

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Speaker 2: Out of bounds, out of bounds.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I remember it vividly.

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Speaker 6: Ross. Great to be with you this morning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you are killing it. It's been fun to

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Speaker 2: follow your career. It's funny. You probably hear this a lot, John,

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Speaker 2: I know you're full invested in it. I don't follow

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Speaker 2: this weekend and this week I will root for like

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Speaker 4: And that's the thing Ross that's become so interesting because

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Speaker 4: of the changing landscape in college basketball. There's less player attention,

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Speaker 4: certain way entering these conference tournaments. Seeds had never been

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Speaker 4: right now because the lack of player attention. And another

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Speaker 4: thing you have to remember. Last year, only twelve teams

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Speaker 4: out of the thirty two conferences that won their respective

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Speaker 4: regular seasons went on to when automatic qualifiers to the

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Speaker 4: NCAA Tournament by winning their conference tournament. Russ Ducker, this

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Speaker 2: Wow. One third actually won their conference tournament. So this

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Speaker 2: I've been working, I've been practicing every day for this.

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Speaker 2: Why are we not good?

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Speaker 4: Well? Princeton in a lot of ways is kind of

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Speaker 4: Last year, Princeton was a heavy favor going to the

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Speaker 4: ancillary players. Zach Martini no longer on Princeton from a

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Speaker 4: Princeton can reverse course. But here's one thing I want

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Speaker 4: have in sports. We spend days, we spend weeks, We

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Speaker 4: spent months talking about the bubble from February first until now.

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Speaker 4: We have to remember ross that last year there were

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Speaker 4: five different teams that stole bids during their respective conference tournaments. Now,

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Speaker 4: what is a bid stealer? A bid stealer is a

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Speaker 4: who then wins its conference tournament and then earns a

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Speaker 4: bid to March Madness. Last year we had Duquane out

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Speaker 4: on to go to the Final four under Kevin Keats.

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Speaker 4: New Mexico stole a bid out of the Mountain West,

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Speaker 4: and then Oregon did the same out of the PAC twelve.

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Speaker 4: That was five teams that were not projected to be

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Speaker 2: It is awesome talking with John Rothstein. As you can tell,

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Speaker 2: he is the best college basketball insidery does it for

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Speaker 2: CBS Sports company I work for as well. You know

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Speaker 2: you kind of hit on this, John, but I want

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Speaker 2: to expound upon it a little bit. What I know,

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Speaker 2: it's all the above, but what aspect of it do

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Speaker 2: you think makes it so popular? Is it the fact

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Speaker 2: that it's brackets, like people just I don't know what

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Speaker 2: bracket like whatever it is, like I love brackets, okay.

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Speaker 2: And also the betting. I mean, people bet a lot

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Speaker 2: It's the whole thing. If you kind of had to

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Speaker 4: It's a one game tournament. It is not obviously a

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Speaker 4: with everything that's going on in college sports, to have

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Speaker 4: Merrimack won the Northeast Conference Tournament, but because of transitional

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Speaker 4: This is the stuff that is in store. And again,

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Speaker 4: if you're not in a situation where you're following college

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Speaker 2: All right, So I want to ask you about Saint

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Speaker 2: John's because they've won the Big East for the first

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Speaker 2: a lot. I'm sure. Yeah. So is this obviously Patino's

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Speaker 2: John's alums made a decision and they bought a really

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Speaker 2: good team. I don't follow it right, So you explain

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Speaker 2: to me how Saint John's seemingly came out of nowhere

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Speaker 4: Saint John's has been a barren program for twenty five years.

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Speaker 4: Saint John's has not won an NCAA tournament game since

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Speaker 4: two thousand. How long ago is that Jay Wright was

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Speaker 4: the head coach in Halstra. But with all that said,

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Speaker 4: Saint John's this year was able to be in a

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Speaker 4: can't miss coach, and Rick Patino, and it put together

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Speaker 4: a roster now that is, you know, twenty six and

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Speaker 4: outright for Saint John's in the Big East that's been

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Speaker 2: Wow, that is absolutely wild. You got to check John out.

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Speaker 2: Why do we love brackets so much? Like any type

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Speaker 3: You know, simplifies everything. It makes everything easier to consume.

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Speaker 2: By the way, does Fritzi do this to you guys?

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Speaker 2: Sounds like, uh, you should like that. There's things that

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Speaker 10: that none of these quarterbacks enter the league as a

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Speaker 10: finished product, and there's things that have to be coached

438
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Speaker 10: and developed and that takes time, and those things can

439
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 10: show up in the NFL, and it doesn't mean that

440
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 10: they're going to be bad players. So there's so many

441
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 10: factors involved. But I thought clearly him war to me,

442
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 10: was a defined number one quarterback prospect in this draft class.

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Speaker 2: And so, okay, and we know he's gonna get drafted

444
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 2: where he's gonna get drafted. But when you look at him, Greg,

445
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 2: did you think like number one pick, that quarterback?

446
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Speaker 10: I started to feel that way the more I watched him. Yes,

447
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Speaker 10: And again, it may or may not happen. You know,

448
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 10: when you hear the Tennessee Titans brass talk, you kind

449
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 10: of get this sense they hold a number one pick

450
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 10: that they'd like to get more players because their roster

451
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 10: is kind of depleted.

452
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Speaker 6: So I don't know.

453
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Speaker 10: Again, you never know if teams wants want to trade up.

454
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Speaker 10: We won't know that, you know, probably for a while.

455
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Speaker 10: But I started to feel the more I watched Ward,

456
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Speaker 10: And I just want people to understand that I watched

457
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 10: him last summer seven eight games at Washington State. I

458
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Speaker 10: think I watched nine games this year at the University

459
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 10: of Miami, and the more I watched him, you know,

460
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Speaker 10: as I said, there are definitely things that need to

461
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Speaker 10: be cleaned up. There's no question there's a little bit

462
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 10: of a looseness and lack of discipline at times to

463
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Speaker 10: his game that must be coached hard. But he can

464
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Speaker 10: work the pocket, he can make progression throws, he can

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Speaker 10: make outstanding outside of structured throws, which were prevalent throughout

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Speaker 10: his tape. So I came to believe that, yes, he

467
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Speaker 10: could be that kind of prospect.

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Speaker 2: All right, some of these other guys Greg you know,

469
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Speaker 2: shardor Sanders and Jackson Dart. Just watching the video, which

470
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Speaker 2: is what you do, was there, who would you say

471
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Speaker 2: was the next most impressive guy on video?

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Speaker 10: I mean, if you're just going by tape, and again

473
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Speaker 10: I'm not going to sit here and say this is

474
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Speaker 10: where guys are going to get drafted, but I would say,

475
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 10: just watching tape, I came away really impressed with Tyler

476
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 10: Shuck out of He played for three teams in his

477
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 10: college career, but he ended up this year at Louisville.

478
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Speaker 6: It was the first year that he truly.

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Speaker 10: Played as a full time starter and played pretty much

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Speaker 10: all the games I mean, he was in he came

481
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Speaker 10: out of Arizona. It seems like he came out twenty

482
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Speaker 10: years ago as one of the top rated quarterbacks in

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Speaker 10: the country. But again, he's a very intriguing player because

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Speaker 10: of his age, which, by the way, most gms don't

485
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 10: view that as a problem. It's more the injury history.

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Speaker 10: But you know, I thought that he did a lot

487
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 10: of the little things really well. Ball security, always kept

488
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Speaker 10: both hands on the ball when forced to move out

489
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 10: of the pocket, whether climbing or escaping. Laterally, he has

490
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Speaker 10: a very easy delivery. He worked from a firm base.

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Speaker 10: He could sit on his back foot with bodies around

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Speaker 10: him and drive the football. Yet he could throw with

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Speaker 10: pace and touch. He could layer throws. He had enough

494
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 10: movement that he's not a playmaker, but he had enough

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Speaker 10: movement where he's not a statue. I thought his his

496
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Speaker 10: traits were strong, and I thought his tape was really,

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Speaker 10: really good. Now, again, I don't know where he's going

498
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Speaker 10: to get drafted. I'm sure he's going to be polarizing

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Speaker 10: in draft rooms. I'm sure there's some people listening right

500
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 10: now that probably think, oh, he's you know, he's a

501
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 10: third round player and he's not.

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00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:22,959
Speaker 6: Gonna make it.

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Speaker 10: You know, we don't know the answer to these questions,

504
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 10: but the tape was very good. And you know what,

505
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Speaker 10: he's six' five and he's two twenty five and as

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Speaker 10: you Know ross having played in this.

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Speaker 6: League that's a.

508
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 10: Trait there's a big difference between being six' one and

509
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 10: sixty five when you're.

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Speaker 6: A quarterback talking.

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Speaker 2: With The great Greg co CELL From nfl, films here

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Speaker 2: you can check him out on social Media at Greg

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Speaker 2: CO cell's i think a lot of People listening greg

514
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 2: On The fox sports radio affiliates are Watching on peacock

515
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 2: are probably surprised that the second most impressive quarterback to

516
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: you Was Not. Shador sanders so what did you see

517
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 2: when you've Broke down shador? Sanders tape since there's obviously

518
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 2: the subject of a lot, of conversation.

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00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 6: And again his tape.

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Speaker 10: Not bad, you know that's the issue you face us

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00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 10: as you, know this you're you're you talk every, single

522
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 10: day and you know the way people Respond what i'm

523
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 10: about to say is not a knock at All In.

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Speaker 10: SHADOR sanders i just think you need to understand what

525
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 10: kind of quarterback. He is and by, the way you can,

526
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 10: be very very good in. The league he's an easy

527
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 10: natural thrower to. The football he does not have higher level,

528
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 10: arm strength and You can that's a discussion that people

529
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 10: have all the time about the relative merits of arm

530
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 10: strength IN. The nfl some believe, it's important some believe

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Speaker 10: it's it's not one of the most. Important traits that's

532
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 10: a discussion people have all the time when they. Evaluate quarterbacks,

533
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Speaker 10: you know just as a, quick ASIDE when i hear

534
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 10: the phrase he can make all, the throws that tells

535
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 10: me he can't make all. The Throws and i'm Talking,

536
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 10: About shador i'm talking ABOUT when i hear that about quarterbacks, in.

537
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 6: General because why are we.

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Speaker 10: Saying that, you know so you know a quarterback could

539
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 10: make all, the throws then why are we, even having,

540
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 10: you know. Saying that, but anyway getting Back, TO shador

541
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 10: I think shador is much more of a ball distributor

542
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 10: and executor of. An offense that's the style of quarterback.

543
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 10: He is and by, the way you can be a

544
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 10: really good quarterback IN the nfl playing. THAT way i

545
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 10: think As with WARD that i mentioned a few things

546
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 10: that need to be. Cleaned up there's a few things

547
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 10: with shador that.

548
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 6: Need to be.

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Speaker 10: Cleaned Up, number one he has a tendency to hold

550
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 10: the ball with one hand when he. Feels pressure you

551
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 10: know as WELL as. I do that has to be

552
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 10: cleaned up IN, the nfl and that'll be one of

553
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 10: the first things that's cleaned up because you cannot give

554
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 10: the ball away IN. The nfl and second, of all

555
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 10: he has a tendency to. Retreat backwards you cannot retreat

556
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 10: backwards IN. The nfl but you're dealing with a guy

557
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 10: that at his best. Is rhythmic he's. A distributor he's

558
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 10: an easy thrower for the. Most part his ball placement is.

559
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 10: Pretty precise there's a lot, to LIKE but i think

560
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 10: he's a. Ball distributor, YOU know i think in, some ways,

561
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Speaker 10: YOU know i THOUGHT. Of cj stroud when he came

562
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 10: Out Of. OHIO state I thought stroud was a better

563
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 10: prospect in a number. Of ways but they're both sort

564
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 10: of at their core. Pocket quarterbacks and, YOU know I

565
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 10: think sanders is not at the Level of Stroud when stroud,

566
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 10: came out but he's that kind.

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Speaker 6: Of player stylistically.

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Speaker 2: Interesting Talking with GREG cos i want To transition greg

569
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Speaker 2: to the veteran quarterbacks because we've got free agency. Next,

570
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Speaker 2: week yeah and there are GUYS that i think are gonna.

571
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 2: Find Jobs, Sam Donald, Daniel Jones, Justin Fields. Aaron rodgers

572
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: let's Start with donald because there still seems to be

573
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Speaker 2: some debate as to whether or not he's the guy

574
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Speaker 2: he was in the first sixteen games, last year or

575
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: he's the guy that he was in the last. Two

576
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: games what do you think any team that Would sign

577
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 2: donald will be getting, With, HIM.

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Speaker 10: Well i think the discussion probably revolves around whether he's

579
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 10: a scheme specific player or whether you can put him

580
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 10: in any scheme and. Be effective because, don't forget, you

581
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 10: know the year Prior, to minnesota he was a backup

582
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 10: quarterback For, the niners and then he Went to Minnesota with,

583
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 10: kevin O'Connell who pretty much everybody understands is a really

584
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 10: good pass. Game schemer the schematics of that offense really,

585
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 10: present clean defined throws for the quarterback at the intermediate and,

586
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 10: deeper levels and that's a rarity IN the nfl, these

587
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 10: days with so many short balls. Being Thrown and donald

588
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 10: was phenomenal. At that here's the statistic that blew, me

589
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 10: away and he led the league in passes that went

590
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 10: more than twenty yards in the air ross from the line.

591
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 10: Of scrimmage think, about that more than twenty yards in

592
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 10: the air from the line. Of scrimmage donald completed fifty

593
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 10: seven percent of his passes that led. The league, By

594
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Speaker 10: contrast mahomes completed twenty six percent of. His Passes and

595
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 10: i'm not Suggesting think donald's a better Quarterback. Than mahomes

596
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 10: That's not he already. Said it it's on. Social, media,

597
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 10: yeah yeah there. You go so so, YOU know, i,

598
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 10: MEAN so i think that that's the Discussion with donald

599
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 10: as to whether you could, sign him plug him into

600
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Speaker 10: any system and he would, be successful or whether what

601
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 10: he did a year ago was very.

602
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 6: Foundationally a product of Working with.

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Speaker 10: Kevin O'Connell and that's probably one of those things that

604
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 10: there's no it's not a. Mathematical equation no one knows

605
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 10: the answer to, that specifically AND that i don't get into,

606
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 10: the money but that will probably dictate what teams. Offer

607
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 10: him if people felt you could put him in any

608
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 10: system ross and he'd, be great he'd probably be in

609
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 10: the forty five to fifty. Million range if people feel

610
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 10: that that's not, the case he'll probably be closer to

611
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 10: the thirty thirty five, million range and we'll see where

612
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 10: it goes. From there but we're dealing with a six

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Speaker 10: four to two hundred and twenty five pound guy with

614
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 10: a big arm and AND need i say he can

615
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Speaker 10: make every THROWER ofs.

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Speaker 2: I, Love, Sorry greg and of course he's he can move.

617
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 6: As, well yeah.

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00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Love greg cosel Comes On The Dan patrick show

619
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Speaker 2: and drops a stat of the Day On sam darnald

620
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Speaker 2: throwing it over twenty. Yards, downfield greg What About. Daniel

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Speaker 2: jones You know i'm curious. About him is there Any

622
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: Chance daniel jones could be This Year's sam donald or

623
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: two Years AGO's? Baker mayfield that he could be sort

624
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: of the reclamation Project in cleveland or somewhere and play

625
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: at a.

626
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 10: HIGH level a true enigma, For, me ross because, you

627
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Speaker 10: know up to, this point i'd have to SAY that

628
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 10: i was wrong.

629
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 6: ABOUT him i liked him.

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Speaker 10: Coming, OUT now i didn't like him THE way i

631
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 10: thought He'd Beat, josh ALLEN but i liked him coming

632
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 10: out and as we probably, ALL remember i know, you

633
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 10: do his, rookie year he was. Very good there was

634
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 10: a sense coming off his rookie season that he, could be,

635
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 10: you know A quality nfl. Starting quarterback now we can

636
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 10: start looking at any number of reasons why it, didn't,

637
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 10: happen oh lack, of weapons but you have to also

638
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 10: look at, the player. You know and one of the

639
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 10: Things About daniel JONES that i thought started to really

640
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 10: show itself and again now you get, into teams scheme and,

641
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 10: other factors is even though he is mobile as a straight,

642
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 10: line runner he's fairly robotic in. The pocket and one

643
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 10: thing that, he LACKS and i think this is a really,

644
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 10: important trait one thing that he lacks is. Pocket movement

645
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 10: and that's a difference between running out of. The pocket

646
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 10: that's there are two totally. Different traits pocket movement is

647
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 10: the ability to move within. The pocket think of an

648
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 10: area that's, you know SMALLER than i let's say the

649
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 10: size of a, boxing ring but, you know just to

650
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 10: give you a sense of sort of confined space to

651
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 10: be able to move in, the pocket within, the pocket to,

652
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 10: avoid pressure keep your, eyes downfield maintain, your focus not

653
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 10: lose your focus of the routes and, the coverage and

654
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 10: still then reset your platform to deliver. THE ball i

655
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 10: think that that's a, that's right that he needs that

656
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 10: he hasn't, really SHOWN and i think that's really imperative

657
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 10: for the style of quarterback that.

658
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: He is check him out on social Media At greg

659
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: cosel so you know wherever, he's at especially when he

660
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: joins Me on thursdays typically On The Ross Tucker. Football

661
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: podcast obviously forty FIVE years. Nfl films, Just, incredible greg

662
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: thank you. So much, As always.

663
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 6: Rock really appreciate being on with. You today thanks for having.

664
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Speaker 2: ME absolutely i love the sports history stuff and what,

665
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: we learned very very. Fired up now ONLY do i

666
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: love Talking. With greg greg would actually be perfect for sports,

667
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: history THERE but i love going over this date in

668
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: SPORTS and i agree With something seaton said yesterday on.

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Speaker 2: The show i'll tell you what that is when we

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00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: come back forty minutes past the hour Here On The Dan.

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Speaker 1: Patrick show be sure to catch the live Edition Of

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Speaker 1: The Dan patrick show week days at Nine am eastern

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00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: Six am Pacific On Fox sports radio And.

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Speaker 2: The iHeartRadio i'm not in love with some of the

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Speaker 2: new stat of. The days some of the new stat of,

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00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: the days like the, ONE yesterday i couldn't even tell

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00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: that they were saying stat of. THE day i didn't

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00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: even know it was the stat of, the day And

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00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: then seaton. Came in, you guys really you had a

680
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: lot of bad. Comments yesterday you guys don't want TO

681
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: be Dk met you don't want to LOOK Like dk

682
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 2: metcalf if you weren't.

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00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 5: Playing sports i'll.

684
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: Cut off both my pinkies to LOOK Like. Dk metcalf

685
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: are you?

686
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 3: Kidding me but if you see a guy at a

687
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: jim who's completely shredded.

688
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: In, fact yeah that. Sounds amazing what's.

689
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 5: The, PROBLEM well i guess you, would, say like is all?

690
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 5: That work what's? It for just to? Look awesome but

691
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 5: you're not actually making money?

692
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: Off it right to, look awesome to get girls to

693
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 2: be in, great shape but you could be like to

694
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: make other men feel bad. About themselves there's a lot of.

695
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: Good reasons. GOOD point, i mean it's it is, funny

696
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: though Because like i'll see guys now my age that

697
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 2: are in like. Ridiculous SHAPE and I guess i always have.

698
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: Two Thoughts now number one is is he? Taking? Testosterone

699
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: like what's? He taking because to really be jacked when

700
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: you get in your forties, and fifties that is hard

701
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: if you're not pharmaceutically enhanced, number one then. Number two,

702
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 2: it's like does he have? Any fun you KNOW what?

703
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: I MEAN like i look at SOMEONE and i just

704
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: want to. Say it, i'm, like, hey man have you

705
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 2: ever had? A? Burger like have you ever had? A

706
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: beer it tastes so good when it touches, Your, lips

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00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: paulie it's when it hits your lips it tastes. So.

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00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 5: Good yeah but that's.

709
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 3: Another thing if you're forty years old, in shredded you

710
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 3: must be eating, unbelievably, disciplined right and that cannot be

711
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 3: fun in perpetuity in like a ten.

712
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 5: Year stretch.

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00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 2: Definitely not IT'S like i saw. One time he's a friend,

714
00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: of MINE but i Saw Where, dan orlowski Who who i'm,

715
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 2: friendly with said that food, is fuel, you know and

716
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 2: he only, looked like you. KNOW who i don't want

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00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: to be friends with or hang out with people that

718
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: say food. IS fuel i want to hang out with

719
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: people that say food.

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00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 5: IS fun i lo.

721
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 3: This joy I've seen orlowsky. Eating before he lives not far,

722
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 3: from me and he'll eat like a, chicken breast unseasoned

723
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 3: with nothing else, on.

724
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 5: It maybe like a sweeze. Of, lemon yeah and he's.

725
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 5: Perfectly happy he.

726
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 2: Hates, flavor yeah food, is happiness, you know like food's

727
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: one of the great joys, in. LIFE Correct, I like

728
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: i'm amazed that you would just deprive yourself of a joy.

729
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: Like that, that's like that's like, Being like i'm not

730
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: going to watch, sports, because uh, you know it's not

731
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,959
Speaker 2: serious unless, You know i'm sports are silly.

732
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 3: UNLESS You're dk metcalfe and you're doing it to be

733
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 3: a star. Wide receiver, you know then you have a

734
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 3: purpose to eat like that.

735
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: Or, no, no no but do you know You Know dk, metcalf's, Deal,

736
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 2: right no he like doesn't eat anything all day until

737
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: like eight o'clock, at night and then he eats like

738
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: three bags of skittles or. Something, CRAZY hey i had.

739
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 2: A roommate i had. A, ROOMMATE okay i won't say.

740
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: HIS name i don't know if you want me to

741
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: SAY that i have. A ROOMMATE when i was IN,

742
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: the nfl he was. Remarkably, SHREDDED okay i ate everything

743
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: the bills told us. TO eat i had all my

744
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 2: meals at, the facility like the low fat pancakes or

745
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: like whatever they told us. TO eat i ate it to.

746
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: A tea i'd. COME home i would bring home a

747
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: salad or whatever he, would eat like. Hamburger helper he'd

748
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: sit there and eat a whole bag Of dur doritos

749
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: or a whole sleeve. OF oreos i swear his forearms

750
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: would just, get bigger like there would be another vein

751
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,959
Speaker 2: would pop in, his forearms or his ab. Would pop i'd,

752
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: be like how is? That part you would not know

753
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: him because he's a he was a career, special teamer

754
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 2: but he was so SHREDDED and i was So.

755
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 11: Frustrated fritzy the, other, thing though other than depriving yourself

756
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 11: and not being able to enjoy food or being on

757
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 11: such a tight low calorie die of things you, can't

758
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 11: eat there's, ALSO people I believe i've seen it at

759
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 11: the gym over, the years that are so obsessively.

760
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 2: Working out where are they?

761
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 7: Enjoying life has it become an obsessive compulsive disorder where

762
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 7: you're constantly having to work out and run and lift

763
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 7: like every waking hour that you have a moment or

764
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 7: you feel really guilty and horrible if you didn't.

765
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 2: Do THAT so i have a little bit.

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Speaker 6: OF that i.

767
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: WORK out i would say one point five times, a

768
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: DAY and i feel LIKE a pos UNTIL and i

769
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 2: don't mean point. OF sale i feel LIKE a pos

770
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 2: all DAY until i, work out so which IS why

771
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 2: i normally work out first thing in. The morning so

772
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: this morning at, THE hotel i did thirty minutes on

773
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: the elliptical interval sprints so minute average a, minute hardcore

774
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 2: AND then i did thirty minutes on. The treadmill the

775
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 2: last twenty witch backwards because everything we do is so

776
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: quad dominant and so. Forward Focused the bills taught ME

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00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: when i Was. In buffalo actually after every workout we

778
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: would walk two hundred yards backwards cause you're kind of

779
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: like resetting your body a. Little bit people don't do

780
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: enough things going the other. Direction anyway, all right on

781
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: this date in, sports history. Mark seventh this. Is crazy

782
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: baseball decided that nine innings constitutes an, official game not

783
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: nine runs in eighteen fifty so back then you had,

784
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: to win you had to score. Nine runs and then how.

785
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: About this in nineteen, fifty Four the Lakers and hawks

786
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 2: experimented by raising the baskets from ten feet to. Twelve

787
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: Feet the lakers won sixty five. Sixty three it was a.

788
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: Great game by, the way how did they score that

789
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 2: many points on twelve? Foot baskets, it's crazy. ABSOLUTELY nuts,

790
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: I like i make sure we have time for what we, Learned,

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00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: Today fritzy WHAT did? I?

792
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 7: Learn uh we all learned you have no plans to

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Speaker 7: turn To meet friday steaks into cubes to put in

794
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 7: a cup for the car ride Back. To pennsylvania you're

795
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 7: gonna pick that steak up and just.

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00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 2: Gnawn, it well you, KNOW what i don't think the

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00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: filets were. Gonna fit and you guys sliced him and.

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00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 2: Diced THEM but i didn't want to take a. Metal

799
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Speaker 2: FORK so i have STEAK and i took one of your. Pointer,

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00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: Thingers here i'm gonna. Stab it there you go like? Stab,

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Speaker 2: It yeah i'm in a spirit like like a Man like

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Speaker 2: lord Of.

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Speaker 7: The.

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Speaker 4: Fly Yeah greg cosel is the best tape breaker downer in.

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00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: The business. That's right there's no better take breaker Downer Than.

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00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: Greg cosell marv early in your career you worked on

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00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: a Show With john rostein called Out.

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00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 9: Of.

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Speaker 2: BOUNDS nice i, like that, All. Right paulie we all learned,

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00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: to Chuck. Cut chuck it's. CUT chuck i learned TODAY

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Speaker 2: that i only use shampoo. AND conditioner i try to

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00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 2: wait till i'm in a hotel to. Save money. That's

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00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: bad by, the way when's the last time you just

814
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 2: shampooed but you, didn't condition or you. CONDITION without i

815
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 2: don't even know what. Conditioner IS all i know, is

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00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 2: that like it was in the Fight With adam Sandler And,

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00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: BILLY madison i make it silky. And smooth check me

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00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: out on social Media At, ROSS. Tucker nfl have a, great.

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Speaker 2: Weekend everybody this show is, the best and so. Were

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Speaker 2: you