WEBVTT - Waithe For It... Lena Waithe Continues 0:00:01.600 --> 0:00:04.880 Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:07.000 you a Charlotte? 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:08.319 Hi? 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:11.640 Everyone, thanks for joining us. I am back today with 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:13.600 the incredible Lena Waite. 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:15.440 Lena, let's just jump right back in. 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:17.759 I think I talked about this in the podcast, so 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:20.000 forgive me everyone listening if I did. But when we 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:23.400 first shot, I want to say the first episode back from. 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:25.840 The pilot, Oh, I love that you guys in. 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:28.960 The cab scene was great, But the scene with the guy, 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:32.720 so I basically we're we're setting up Charlotte to be 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:34.519 the one who wants to get married. Right. So I've 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:35.920 said that you haven't seen a lot of it, but 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:38.120 it's the beginning, right, And so I have the scene 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:41.240 where with him where I'm like, you know, no one's 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:43.360 gonna marry missus up the butt, dude. Do you remember 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:43.680 this scene? 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:45.040 It's like, this is embarrassing. 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:46.960 So I had done it once and I had cried 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:49.760 and we had to refilm it, which is the only 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:51.440 time in my career I've had to reshoot a scene 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.120 based on my performance. I remember Darren coming to me 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:57.680 and saying, you here so upset, and I'm like, what 0:00:57.680 --> 0:00:59.840 what do you mean? Because I've been acting class forever 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.600 where you had to put the stakes high for everything 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:03.480 I'm saying. 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:05.160 So they thought it was too dramatic. 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:06.600 Yeah, they thought I was too upset. 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:08.959 He was like, there's another guy around the corner, and 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.840 I was like, what there is? Because for me as 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:14.600 a person, me Kristen, I don't really operate that way, 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.399 and I certainly didn't. Then I remember Jaren being. 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:18.959 Like, yeah, you don't care that much. 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.720 You don't care that much, and I'm like, oh, I thought. 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:23.600 You know, my lines are like I want to get 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:25.399 married and now it's not going to work out because 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:26.600 he wants to do this thing and I don't want 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:28.240 to do it. He was like, ah, you know, another 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:29.080 guy around the corner. 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:32.880 Just be just careless. So I was like, okay, bizarre careless, 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:34.240 I know. But I didn't really. 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:36.959 Understand that the show was really going to be like 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:39.000 a lot of dating. 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:43.080 Yeah, yeah, it's your character a while to get to the. 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:45.520 Wedding, and rightly, so you know, rightly, So. 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:46.319 Here's the deal. 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:50.520 I think ultimately it does depend on what you want 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:52.520 or how you want to live. But I think it's 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.400 something that people are afraid to talk about when they're 0:01:55.440 --> 0:02:00.160 dating because a lot of women are taught from birth. 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:01.520 To want to get married and have kids. 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:03.800 This is true, and so I think that's why Charlotte 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:06.800 is such a beautiful representation of a woman wanting to 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.680 be in you know what was it Architectial Digest was 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.320 it or which magazine? 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:10.840 That? 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:14.720 When? Yeah? 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:17.679 And what I love about you know that it was 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.120 a beautiful episode, you know, when it's the end of 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:23.080 the marriage really and he comes in to take the 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:23.880 photo and sort. 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.880 Of this last kindness to you. 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:29.119 But what I loved about it, even as a young 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:31.280 person watching that, it was Michael Patrick King or the 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:37.000 writer saying, these images you see in these magazines are 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:41.520 just that, they're an image, and and I thought it 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:44.600 was so special that we the audience know what's happening 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:49.720 with you, you know, and and and Trey and but 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:53.400 we know that the public will get that magazine and 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:58.000 thinkous I want that, not knowing and. 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.320 Say like, oh that had been I want that. 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:02.600 I want that money. Yeah, yeah, I want what she 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.360 has absolutely because. 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:08.560 Yeah, right, that's the trap of getting and that that 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.000 was Charlotte's trap, which I think was of course great 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.080 on Michael Patrick's that was his Oh my. 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:16.080 Gosh, yeah, so beautifully done, expertly done. 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.360 Right, you're gonna want this thing and you're gonna make 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:20.800 me get it perfect, and it's gonna look perfect, but 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:22.200 it's not gonna actually. 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.079 Be it, yeah, which is which is a lesson. He 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.200 sort of all these these bread crimes that you guys 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:28.080 were leaving us and saying that he may look great, 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:31.280 and they all seem wonderful, but you know, when you 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:35.520 really look underneath the rug, what's there. And also it's 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:37.960 so interesting too, is because obviously Mark Kntone's character is saying, like, 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.320 all right, we'll do it solo. You know we're not 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.040 gonna he's not coming, don't worry about it. 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:43.160 She takes the photo by herself. 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.880 It's great and just the idea of what if you 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.400 did do it by yourself, and so many young girls 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.960 look at that image and go, huh, definitely there's no 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:52.640 guy in the frame. 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:54.680 That would have been awesome, that would have been powerful, 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:55.840 It would have been very powerful. 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.800 But he's saying, you wanted me here, you wanted to 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.160 do this, right, you want this picture, I'm going to 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:01.800 give it to you. 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:02.440 Which is nice. 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:06.720 Yeah, but all you have is that just the picture exactly. 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:07.520 But it is. 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.760 You know, let's talk about Michael Patrick for a second. 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.200 Yes, you great, love so much. 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.440 So tell me about you got the DVDs that had 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:16.880 the commentary. 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:20.200 Yes, well, I was working at Blockbuster, which tells you 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:24.000 how long ago this was, and I would rent those seasons, 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:27.800 you know, television, and because that's how you watch things again, 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:30.880 you have to get DVDs, And so I was really 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:32.000 and so that's how I kind of got to figure 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:33.800 out which seasons I really liked, you know, and so 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:35.960 I was like, oh, like three, I like four. You know, 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.359 those two seasons in particular really spoke to me. And 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:40.760 so there were certain episodes he would like cover an arc, 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:44.400 you know. And what was really helpful for me was 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:49.359 hearing him talk about Carrie's like dissent. Wow, you know, 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:53.680 He's like, Okay, she's got this great guy. Aiden is amazing, wonderful. 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:57.800 They're great. And then what rears its ugly head that 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.800 past that guy that she couldn't have, that didn't give 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.680 her what she wanted. That is that temptation. And he 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:07.240 sort of talks about like she does the wrong thing. 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:10.560 She's always using the smoking cigarettes as a metaphor, like 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:12.599 she sort of gives up smoking, like Aiden is like, 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:14.800 that's not healthy. And also what is he saying, I 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:16.839 want to have a place for us, all the things 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.240 that mister Big didn't give her, And so I think 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.200 it's just him talking about that and running through I'm thinking, oh, wow, 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.760 that's such an interesting character thing or oh, she has 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.600 the thing she wants, but she's sabotaging it for some reason. 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:29.480 And I can't even think about that. 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:32.080 As an adult, but I'm thinking about its story wise, 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.760 how smart it was. And also in adding you know 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:38.880 when she's like she goes to the other side of 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:42.279 the other apartment that they're trying to Yeah, yeah, but 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.120 it's at the end. And so Michael Patrick King says, 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.359 we had to make sure people knew that her and 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:49.040 Aiden were broken up, but we have to figure that 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.240 out because they're laying together, and then he says, so 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:53.760 we added the voiceover the next day Aiden moves out, 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.320 moved out, but him just giving me that because I 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:58.160 wouldn't have known that. I was thinking, oh, that's so powerful, 0:05:58.360 --> 0:05:59.920 punching the gut like, oh, he's gone, He's not gonna 0:05:59.920 --> 0:06:02.560 be And Michael Patrick saus we added that in the 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:05.839 last moment. Right, he's also showing me this is how 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.839 we can use voiceover. It's not a lazy thing at all. 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.800 It's a way for you to understand what's happening and 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:13.720 the weight of it, you know, to see these two 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:15.839 people holding each other, and then you hear and the 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.360 next day he moved out and you're like, oh man, 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:20.320 and that Those are the moments that I think I 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:25.320 really learned about writing for an audience where you make 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:30.040 them care so much about this relationship, this marriage, this couple, 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:32.359 and so to the end of it feels like a 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.719 break up for you. You feel like you're going through it. 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:36.360 You feel like we're going through your divorce. We feel 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.240 like we're watching you, like struggle to get pregnant. All 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.960 these different things like when you follow behind Miranda, you 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:44.080 know what I'm saying, even though she didn't turn back, 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:47.200 she knew she was there. So he's reminding us of Look, 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.680 they are in relationships with each other. And the thing 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.200 is they not having sex our relationships they have, they're 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:55.520 they're learning how to be in those relationships by how 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:56.520 they show up for each other. 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.560 Absolutely, that's really well put, really well put, and I 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.320 love that this episode. You remember in this episode. 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.400 Miranda she makes the call. They don't tell us who 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:08.680 she's calling. I literally thought that and I should know. 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:12.280 I mean, it's beautiful writing. That's he's hiding, and it's 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.920 like that she's there, and that cut of the image 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:17.000 of Miranda like sort of saying like I'm sorry, like 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:18.000 that was my stuff. 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:18.920 I shouldn't have done it. 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.400 And that's why I really think he's teaching women how 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:23.640 to be good friends to each other. These all the 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:27.440 writers are you know, they're the actors. You are showing us. Hey, 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:28.960 sometimes you got to say I'm in the wrong. And 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:33.320 there's iconic fights between Kerry and Miranda, like those incredible relationships. 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.760 Yeah, I also did not really realize until I'm rewatching, 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.200 like the through line of their relationship from the beginning 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:43.080 is incredible, insane, and sometimes I will. 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:44.840 Not just single for you, Miranda totally. 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:46.440 I mean, so many moments, so. 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:47.960 Many when they're at the thrift shop. 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.559 She's like the rift shop incredibly. Also, I love y'all's 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:52.560 argument though, like to like before you give her the ring, 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:53.360 it's so beautiful. 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:55.920 Yeah, that's good. I mean, yeah, I don't mean to 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.720 diminish my own part, but like I always feel jealous 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:00.240 when we're doing it, just like that if I see 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:01.840 on the call she that that the two of them 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:02.920 have walked up, and I'm like. 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:04.000 Why am I not there? 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:04.680 Why? 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.400 Why not there? But now I understand more why I'm 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:09.080 not there. Like they have a thing. 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:11.440 It's it's it's indeed big. 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.920 And interesting thing. And they're so different, but they're also 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:16.520 so similar. Miranda is kind of the only one who 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:18.880 really tells Carrie the truth, like the truth, and the 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:20.760 only one that she might listen to. You know. 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:23.640 Yes, it's interesting, but also it's a showing of like 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.520 if Carrie is all of us. We know, there are 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.200 certain friends you go to for certain things, and there 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.200 are other friends that you don't go to for certain. 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:33.559 Things, you know. And so it's like she tells Samantha. 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:36.600 That she cheated, right, that's who she's at the present, Yes, absolutely, 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:37.959 and you know, and she's like, don't you want to 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.200 judge me? And she's like, not my style, you know, 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:41.760 and gives her the wink, right, you know, and the 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.160 wink comes back in the movie, you know, like in Mexico, 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:49.600 you know, and so Encyclopedia no, you know. But also, 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:51.040 but the thing with the money, you know, when she's 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.240 about to literally get kicked out of her house, you know, 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:57.000 and she's looking at the fact that Charlotte is fine, 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.240 you know, and doing well. And I love that when 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:01.040 you know, Carrie is like, you got this apartment for free, 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:02.560 like you have to do work for this, and you're like, 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.160 I earned this, girl, Like, don't blame me. I went 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:07.080 through a lot to get this to get here, I know. 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:09.640 And and also but you're saying, like, you know, you 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:11.280 bring up your parents, they're a little bit talk about 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:13.640 your dad. My dad never talk about money with friends. 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.400 And that's a real thing. It's a real thing. It's 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:17.679 a real thing, you know. But then for you to 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.120 give her the ring, it's almost like we are married, 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:23.800 you know, we are in the marriage, we are exactly 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:26.080 you know. And so she's like, you know, it's because 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:28.240 she didn't ruin your wedding that day, no, you know 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:29.439 what I mean, when she was going through what she 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.360 she's going through. And then when you no longer are married, 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:34.800 you're like, here, take this, so you got somewhere to live. 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.240 And I think that to me is such a beautiful. 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:38.960 Forceful I mean, there's so much talk to you about 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:39.880 I barely reach out. 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:40.600 It's okay. 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.960 I know we're going through the whole season, all of them. 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:57.000 I know. I know one thing I love, I mean, 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.000 and I mean some of it is just like memory, 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:03.000 you know, I love the memories and this also can 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:04.400 I say. I don't know if you ever ever met 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:06.800 the director Alan Culter, did you ever have me? Oh 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.840 my god, I want to have him on because he 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:13.360 is also he Carrie runs into him on the street him, 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.520 he is on the street. I don't know why he's 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:19.440 he's such a character and he really you know, when 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:24.480 you have those directors who inject like a new element 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.640 that then changes forever the show. He was one of those. 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:31.760 Like he came in and he's very I mean, he's intense, 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:36.640 and almost every time he would threaten to quit just 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.800 because like we are always and still are very over 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.719 ambitious in our in our desires of what we want 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:44.560 to film in the time and money that we have. 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.480 So it's always a stress, what I'm saying. And we 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:50.920 used to film all night, you know, many times a week. Yeah, 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:52.839 it was hard. It was hard, but we loved it, right, 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.360 But I mean for the director trying to he had high, 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:57.440 high hopes you know what I'm trying to say. He 0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:59.880 set the bar high, and he used to say to us, 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:01.600 one of the best things you ever said to me, 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:05.800 at least was walk slow, talk fast, because we have 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:06.880 so many walking talks. 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:08.040 Right, Yes, but. 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.840 You have to make it seem like you're walking fast, 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.240 but you can't really walk fast because we can't cover 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.640 that much territory with the camera, do you know what 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:15.920 I mean? 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:16.800 So you had. 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:21.040 To separate your your vote voice, your vocals from your feet, 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:24.000 which is hard because usually you walk fast and you 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:27.200 talk fast together. But you had to separate, like like padding. 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:29.760 That's crazy because you guys are walking so much. 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:34.040 Exactly exactly so. But he had a great His rhythms 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:36.360 really affected me, and I think all of us, like 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:36.719 when I. 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:38.560 Look at that episode, is really pacing is great. 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:39.240 It's pacing is. 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:41.200 Great and also so neutrik too, because like, you guys 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.320 are still doing the thing of breaking the fourth wall. 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:44.959 But what was interesting by that episode is that it's 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.400 like people on the street. They were good, they were fantastic. 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:49.160 They were so good. 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.120 Yeah, like for me, I because in the first season 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:53.320 I'm like, oh god, not again. 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:55.520 Did you guys try to figure it out totally. 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.120 And Sara Jessica never wanted to do that. 0:11:57.440 --> 0:11:59.440 Oh, never wanted to do not like it? No, well 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:02.000 it went away by three. Yes, And maybe that's it's 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.280 interesting because that's where it's kind of like, guys, this 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:06.240 is not a TV show. 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:09.079 This is strange for the main character. 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:11.280 For the main character. Yeah, but that's why. That's why 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:12.400 I like in this episode. 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.240 That it was not the people of the baseball game. 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:15.000 It was nice. 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:16.480 It was great, and they were. 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:19.160 Funny and interesting and I liked it a lot too. 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.280 And I loved that whole baseball thing. I remember going there. 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:24.199 It was freezing. It was February. 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.520 We went to where they used to play the US 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:30.920 Open and like Flushing because it was empty, you know, 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:34.200 we needed an empty stadium. And I got lost, which 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.040 is really common. It was back before we had security, 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:39.719 so you could just be wandering around, you know, so 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.880 you got lost on aud Yeah, like trying to find 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:44.320 the way in or whatever. It was like a big 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.800 empty stadium and there was no PA with me or. 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:50.760 This is there's no. 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:54.880 They just lost track of me. I was I was 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:57.199 missing and I was just walking and walking. I think 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:58.959 I had my cell phone and the big big old 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.120 cell phones, and I think I called Cynthia. 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:02.040 Like where are you guys? 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:03.439 Wow? 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:05.480 And then we were up in those stands for like 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:09.040 a long time and it was cold. Go back in February. 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:11.439 She wouldn't come on till June's. We had to pretend like. 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:12.800 It was this when I'm dealing with the shot, like 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:14.560 we're like, Okay, we're gonna we're gonna make it real. 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:15.760 We're gonna make the weather real. 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:16.920 You tho, I'm kind of like, oh, I don't want 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:18.559 to be outside of everybody that like Lena. 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:19.120 Is deal with it. 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:20.120 I mean that's hard. 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:21.880 Yeah, we're gonna play it for winter though, because we're 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.000 not trying to be toolls. But that's us. 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:25.760 It didn't look cold, you guys tricked me. 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:26.480 Thank you. 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:28.520 I mean she had the first on that. 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.719 Yes she has she has that vintage for she of 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:33.760 course she has everything in her story. 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.840 Oh, she got all of it. That cold is. 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.040 I know that coat is good. I know that code 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.439 is good. They had to retire it because people got 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:42.240 upset with us about it. 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:43.200 I get it. 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:46.280 I get it too, obviously, but it's still iconic. 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.480 Yes, all right, I have to look at the notes 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.040 because I'm sure there's something really important that we're not covering. Oh, 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.600 I have that man who wants to adjust himself. 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.199 Which is so interesting as a woman who doesn't date men. 0:13:57.679 --> 0:13:59.600 It's that thing of going like, I'm glad these are 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:01.040 things that one doesn't have to deal. 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.600 With totally totally. I also think it's funny because like 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:06.240 Charlotte is so into manners, right, of course it would 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.360 really bug her, but also it's funny that it also 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.199 bugs Samantha. It seems to bug everybody. 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.880 Yeah, interesting, it's interesting, It's it's interesting. 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:14.960 Well. 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:16.560 Also Smith this dealing with her own issue with the 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:17.120 guy with the smile. 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:19.160 Oh my god, it feels so bad for her in 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:23.040 this one. And I had forgotten actor, so really bad 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.440 for that actor. And he's so so sweet. 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:27.040 Y'all do the guy so dirty? 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:29.480 I mean, let me tell you. 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:33.440 I mean, once y'all get the husbands, you know you 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:34.880 got you, guys. 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:38.880 Still feel like they feel sometimes lesser, you know what 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:39.400 I'm saying. 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:43.320 Well, Harry, I mean, look, he was Harry literally and 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.080 you know, given beauty in the Beasts. It's true, but 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:47.960 he was great and he's still is. 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.280 I know, he's still around. I know I love it too. 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.280 I mean I do remember a lot of those guys 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:56.040 in the beginning would just be like thrown off, like 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:57.480 I have to be like the girlfriend. 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:01.160 You know. Yeah, like that's guys get so mad about 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.000 the show because it's like you know, I mean you 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:04.880 guys even made it into a jay Z song. 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:06.480 He was like, you know, I have to wait till 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:07.560 sex and the city is over. 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:08.240 I love it. 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.480 I mean hello because the women are like, yeah, we're 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.360 it's a patriarchy versus a patriarchy in the show, I know, 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:16.640 and thank god, but that's why, like think about how 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.120 long it's stuck with us, yeah, you know, but then 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.880 you think about it, sometimes women get a little frustrated 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.160 with and just like that because what it's showing is 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.560 sort of this is what it is to age, you know, 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.520 this is what it is to you know, have children 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:31.640 that are not babies so or have a husband that 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:35.400 has now died, or to explore your sexuality after fifty 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:37.600 you know, then it's sort of like, oh, I'm being 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:38.440 confronted with. 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:40.760 Like what I know, we're still doing it. 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:42.920 Like, well, I'm just married over here with kids. 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:44.160 I don't want to be thinking about you know what 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.120 could also be happening, right, And what I think you 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:48.320 guys are saying is that life isn't done. That is 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:49.480 exactly what we're saying. 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:50.200 Yeah, I know. 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.080 The thing that's funny to me is that, I mean, 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.040 it's very hard to be objective when you're making something right. 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.400 And luckily Michael Patrick's in charge, I don't have to 0:15:58.400 --> 0:15:59.000 worry about. 0:15:58.840 --> 0:15:59.400 The big issues. 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.200 But we did all discussed at length about coming back 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.280 and why we would want to come back and what 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:06.680 we wanted to do, and what we wanted to do 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:10.560