WEBVTT - John Beck Meets World 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:24.480 We have welcomed two new members of our family, Lucky 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:27.560 and Pickle. We got cats, thank god. 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:30.040 Because of those two new kids, I was gonna say, 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.880 I'd like to work on their name twins, twins Lucky 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:34.440 and Pickle. 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:39.000 Oh no, we got so Lucky because they're just the best. 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:41.680 And we have been talking about getting cats for actually 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:44.239 a couple of years because Indy loves cats and we 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:47.240 can't have a dog just because we travel so much, 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:49.519 so cats were like the only option, and we've been 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:51.920 talking about it, but every time we would like, you know, 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.480 look into it, it was like you're just rolling the 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:57.160 dice with cats personalities, you know. And I know this 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:59.320 from my experience before where I got two cats and 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.720 a little crazy and like then you're stuck with them 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:06.959 forever or twenty years or whatever. So uh, this this 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:10.360 time around, we had a friend happened to be like, oh, 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.080 we've been fostering these two kittens and we know their 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:15.399 personalities and they're amazing. And they'd already had them for 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:18.160 like six weeks at that point, and then they're like 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:20.479 a big cat household, you know, they've always had cats 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:22.360 coming in and out. And they were like, you guys 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:24.759 want to take them, and we did, and they've turned 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:28.360 out great. How long was this It's been a couple 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.000 of months now it's been like now they're getting big. 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:31.880 They were so like little and now it's like, oh, oh, 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:32.960 we have cats in the house. 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:33.160 You know. 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:34.720 They're like they used to like. 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:36.760 Crawl into boxes, which was so cute. Now they're like 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.319 crawl into boxes and knock them off just counter. It's 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:41.479 like a little more. Yeah, but they're great. 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:45.280 Are they indoor outdoor cats or just now keeping them indoor? 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:46.680 Yeah? 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:48.280 You know, we have a we have a yard, but 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:52.120 we have possums and raccoons. Yeah, and coyotes. 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.120 I see coyotes on the street, like on the sidewalk 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:56.800 all the time, so I would just be terrified to 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:57.400 let them out. 0:01:57.720 --> 0:01:58.080 No. 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:03.280 Yeah, it's careful about the things on your counters, you do, 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:06.520 you know. I shortly after Jensen and I started dating, 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:10.560 I Jensen had concrete floors in the townhouse he was 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.679 living in, and I walked in and put my cell 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.600 phone down on the kitchen counter, and within ten minutes 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:20.600 Bill swiped my phone. It landed on the concrete floor 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.240 and shattered into a million pieces. It was like, right, 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:28.560 anything you care about don't leave on any counters. Cats 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:30.920 are little jerks. I love them to death, but they're 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:35.600 little jerks. You are officially my friend who who just 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:36.639 has secret pets? 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:45.840 You Yeah, name was lived at your house. So now 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:46.440 there you go. 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.120 Just any other any other secrets. 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:52.560 Yet not yet get into I'm ready. 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:55.679 To right, not that you're ready to, fair enough. 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.720 Now did they come with Lucky and pickle or did 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:00.519 you stuck? 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.960 She became pickles for some reason, miss pickles and pickles 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.200 just sounded better at us than pickle, So it's Lucky 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:09.119 and pickles, so we added the s. But other, Yeah, 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.079 I thought those were great names. And we were like, oh, 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:14.079 these great catneys are. Yeah, and they're so cute and 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.440 they're they're not brother and sister, but they look exactly alike, 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:19.440 like they have the same coloring, and you know, they're 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:20.760 only a couple of weeks apart. 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:22.760 At age, so that's so great. 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.360 It's just it's so nice to have like kittens that 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:27.520 like in the hold and that come around us when 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:27.760 we were. 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:32.480 On the couch and oh I missed the peer. Yeah, 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:34.360 it's so fun. I love my dog, but I missed 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:35.440 the Yeah. 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.040 I mean, dogs are a lot It's funny because I 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:38.760 used to you know, I grew up with dogs and 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:41.760 always like a dog person. I had a dog before 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:44.120 with my my ex girlfriend for a couple of years. 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.360 But then when did you have a dog? I had 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.240 a dog at Bernie's Mountain Dog, Georgia. You never met Georgia. 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:54.640 Remember Georgia? Yes, I remember Georgia. She died at six. 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:58.080 You know Bernie's Mountain dogs don't live longer. Bigger the 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:01.680 dogger the dog. She was so great, so dumb, just 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:05.520 the greatest, dumbest dog. I loved her so much. Anyway, 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:06.680 what was I saying? 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:08.240 You were a dog person? 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:09.240 I was a person. 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.080 But you know, after I had Indy, like when you 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:14.520 have a baby and you deal with other people's dogs 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:17.680 and suddenly other people are like not putting the dog 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:19.840 on a leash or like in our neighborhood there's a 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.400 lot of like people have dogs that are very loud 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:25.080 and aggressive, like kind of a guard dog vibe, and like, 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.760 just walking around with Indy, I started to just, you know, 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.400 dislike dogs and'd be like, can you please put you more? 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:31.520 Let me put it this way? 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.880 Dislike dog owners, you know, it's like and so dog 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:37.200 you know, and ever since then, I've just been like, 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:40.000 I think, I don't know. As long as we have India, 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:41.720 I don't know. I will probably never get a dog 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:42.920 until maybe I'm older. 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:46.520 Maybe like are much more similar. 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:49.280 There's no animal that's ever close to actually what it's 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.760 like to have a child. But dogs are a little 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:54.920 more like children, even just in how high maintenance they are. 0:04:55.040 --> 0:05:00.000 Children are very high maintenance. Sh Okay, that's. 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:03.880 Good until they mail your face off. But yeah, just 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:07.640 but that's why, that's what babies do. Babies are very dangerous. 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.680 And so after you have after you have children and 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.440 you're looking to have a pet, the idea feels. 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.599 Much more like am I ready to take on a dog? 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.880 Whereas like cats still give you the love and affection 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:21.880 assuming you don't have a cat, that's like, please do 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:23.560 not come anywhere near me. 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:29.960 Like that, we were just roommates who like would meet 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:31.600 up once a month to talk about like, all right, 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:32.560 you got the bills paid? 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:34.560 Like I would walk in, she'd look at me. I'd 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:36.799 look at her and be like, hey, hey, that was it. 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:43.960 So very very affectionate. And he also will yes, he 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:44.680 does love you. 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:44.960 Bill. 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.200 Also when we have people over, he can hear like. 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:48.640 He usually hangs out in our room, but then he 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:50.400 hears when people are over and he'll come downstairs to 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:50.960 scope it out. 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.640 Who's here? Hello? Do I like them? Do I want 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:55.280 to hang out with them? 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:58.360 He also is quite a hefty cat, although he's lost 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:01.800 some weight since he had the clear yes, since he was. 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:03.520 Nuclear radio radio. 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.240 But he'll he hates to have his belly scratched. And 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:12.000 but he rolls over and shows you his plump, squishy 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:15.280 belly and you want to touch it, And then you 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:19.360 go to touch. Yes, he lures you in with it. 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:19.600 And then. 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:25.000 I'm gonna I will mollel you anyway. 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.359 I love cats. Well, congratulations on Lucky and Pickles. I 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:30.680 look forward to cuddling the heck out of them the 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:34.279 next time I'm over there. Loving Welcome to pod meets World. 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:37.360 I'm Daniel Fischl, I'm right or strong, and I'm mister Pickles. 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:41.960 I'm well for doubt you Commonly hear phrases like it's 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.960 who you know or Nepo baby thrown around when it 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:46.000 comes to show business. 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.240 And if you take away one thing from. 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:51.800 This podcast, it's that some child stars knew absolutely no 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.479 one in the industry when they started out like us, 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.359 and with today's guest, we hope you'll take away that 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.920 some of the most successful working creatives currently in Hollywood 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:05.679 all started somewhere, and that somewhere is sometimes the bottom. 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:06.719 John D. 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.440 Beck was a production assistant on Boy Meets World, a 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.560 somewhat fancy term for a young jack of all trades 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.840 who does just about everything they're told they are a 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:19.200 crucial part of making a TV show, Often underestimated as 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.920 an intern, but in truth working behind the scenes with 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:25.440 various departments, working on things as tedious as a coffee order, 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:29.560 but also becoming important cogs in the machine, ensuring everything 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.600 is in place for tape day. If you have bad pas, 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:37.600 absolutely everything could fall apart, trust us. Since his time 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.720 collecting food orders and delivering scripts to our houses, he's 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:44.320 gone on to become a big time executive producer and showrunner, 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:48.840 working on according to Jim Fuller, House Side Hustle, That Girl, Leyley, 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:52.679 and creating the very successful Disney sitcom Live in Maddie 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:55.600 and Yes. One of his first jobs as a young 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.240 man was on the Boy Meets World set, where we 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:01.480 like to think watching us three youngungs take almost nothing 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:04.920 serious gave him the knowledge and understanding of what not 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:07.960 to take on his journey to the top. This week 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.400 we hear from a new perspective that of a pa 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:13.600 On boy meets world. Welcome to the show, John D. 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:18.720 Beck H, It's so good. 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.880 To see you. Fantastic to see you, guys. 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.600 Oh my gosh, okay, well, thank you for joining us. 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.000 Oh sure thing, thank you for me. 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:27.000 I wanted to. 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:31.440 Ask, how much cuckaroo do you think you picked up 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:35.280 for the writer's room while you were a pa On? 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.679 Do you have no idea how much cuckaroo? And as 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:44.400 a matter of fact, I got in such trouble ones cuckoo. 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.080 It was actually the one of the two moments I 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:50.760 realized that show business was more business than show. Uh 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:55.960 Bluckman and the guys over Cuckaroo and Mark Blums visiting. 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.480 He said, make sure to get extra cuckaroo so we 0:08:58.520 --> 0:08:59.520 could take cuckaroo home. 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:01.559 Get a lot of it. Well, I thought I was 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:03.439 saying the day by getting a whole bunch of cuckaroo. 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.200 And the accounts were like what you buy and like, 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.600 am I really getting into trouble for buying too much? 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:14.160 Chicken Shut TV show on ABC? So Yes, right right. 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.880 I love that Blutman's like, listen, you got the company card, 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:22.160 buy enough food for seventy five people, then we'll have 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:25.880 leftovers for days, go home, and then you got in 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:27.800 trouble for it. 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:31.600 It works, Cuckaroo, get the home, get out the door. 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.080 Does anyone want to explain to our dear listeners who 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:36.839 may not know what cuckaroo is? 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:38.760 It was a it was a chicken restaurant. 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.400 It was an amazing chicken restaurant that apparently we were 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.240 the only ones going to because the whole thing shut down, 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:46.200 and it was like, how do you lose? 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:46.880 Cuckaroo? 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:51.000 Is just writer's rooms in Hollywood that loved Cuckaroo and 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:54.720 what less sitcom rooms? Cuckaroo went out of business. Oh 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.199 there's always a room for the Cuckaroo. And soup plantation 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:57.880 are coming back. 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:01.920 So really, soup plantation is going to be called sweet 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.480 Tomatoes because that's what it's called on in one half 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:07.600 of the country, and I think they're bringing a. 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:09.480 Sweet tomabe brandy here. 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:11.480 Yeah, maybe cocar. 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.000 Row is coming back then, as they're going to change 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:14.520 the names. 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.840 Yeah, so many conversations about Cuckoo. I mean, it's kind 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.280 of blonkers. I mean, I guess the reality is we're 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:22.520 just always eating lunch together every day or you. 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:25.360 Know, but the actors didn't order it that often. Did 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.000 we even get lunch delivered every day? Or did we 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:28.559 were on our own? 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.440 We had a certain we had craft service certainly, and 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.600 then we were definitely on our own once we could drive, 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:34.400 because I. 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:38.960 Remember going they did. I yeah, I remember, don't you. 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:41.520 We would get the like we'd get the menus in 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:43.680 the morning, we'd pick what we wanted, and then we 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.000 get like the. 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:47.960 Contest styrofoam containers with our name on it. It was 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:49.640 like this is right, this is yeah. But I think 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.080 after we were sixteen, Yeah, that was over. 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:55.640 There was like, all right, good luck, have fun kid. 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.840 Yeah exactly, We're not paying for your cuckaroo anymore. 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.920 Okay, so lacious guys. You guys just keep finding ways 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.640 to continue to reinvent yourself and be relevant and stick 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:10.480 together as a group. And that's that's really really cool. 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.559 That does not often happen in this business. And thank 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:16.000 you something to see. 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:16.679 So thank you. 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:21.040 We're rather fond of each other. We can't seem to 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:22.599 shake one another. 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:26.800 And we're trying to hate each other. It just doesn't work. 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:27.760 We don't know why. 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:30.520 Looking at it, you'll eventually find something to hate you. 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:34.720 Yeah, you know what, maybe at forty years. It's definitely 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.480 hasn't happened after thirty, but maybe after forty he knows. 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:40.679 So I know, Boy Meets World for you was just 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.200 a stepping stone for what has become a long and 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.200 prosperous career. But we were hoping we could start with 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.040 how did you get the job on Boy Meets World? 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.000 What season was it? How old were you? Tell us everything. 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:53.720 I was just out of college. 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.680 I went to Syracuse University and packed up all my 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.000 stuff in my crappy Ford Tempo and drove out to 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:02.800 Hollywood to make it big. It took me a couple 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:09.360 of months to finally get an interview, got hired, and 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:14.439 then on to this day, I think they might have 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:16.640 hired the wrong person because. 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:18.880 Was your first interview for Boy Meets World. 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:21.760 I know I had won any interview before that, with 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:26.760 family matters and a tie in a blazer and sitting 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:29.200 down a guy by the name of Miles Christman who's 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.360 eating a turkey sandwich with turkey flying out of his mouth, 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.599 and and said, you know, we don't expect you to 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.280 dress like that. I'm like, oh, I am definitely not 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:39.880 getting this job because I look like somebody who doesn't 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:44.760 know what the job is. Wow. Eventually ended up interviewing 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:51.319 at Boy Meets World, was hired, and the very first 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:53.400 run I had over to Michael Jacob's office, which was 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:55.440 over at the Disney lot because were at the old 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.040 KTLA lot that in season three, which is now the 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:02.440 big fancy Netflix lot. Very first job or very first 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:05.400 run I went over there. Somebody called on the phone 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:09.200 while I happened to be there, and I just see 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.040 a confused look on somebody's faces, like what are you 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:13.760 talking about? Didn't didn't we just hire you? I'm like, oh, 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:15.880 whoever that is? It's suppos to me. I'm getting out 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:17.319 of here before they can fire me on day one. 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.319 But so whatever happy. 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:23.720 Accident happened, My gosh, So you think they'd like literally 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:25.760 just called you and gave you the job, but they 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:29.079 said they mixed message name. 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:31.960 That seemed like a better story than it actually probably was. 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:33.880 So that's so, how did you. 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.319 Interview with We were over at KTLA, which means it 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:37.720 must have been seasons. 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:38.320 Three and three or four. 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:41.080 Season three okay, season three, And do you remember who 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:41.760 you interviewed with? 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:50.880 Hearing Steve Lamar Okay Laar, Yeah, who I was like, Well, 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.400 hold on a second, you worked on alf Oh my god, 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:55.440 ever meet in my life? 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:00.120 So I have a we often talk about now. 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:03.000 When we were on the set, we were completely and 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:06.360 totally essentially oblivious to all the work that was going 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:07.000 on around us. 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.800 We were completely you know. 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.640 Into our own little tiny bubbles and in our worlds 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.199 and where the actors and blow. So what is the 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:20.080 normal day, the normal twenty nine hour day for a PA? 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:20.680 What is it? 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:20.920 You know? 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:24.120 How? What's an average day like for a production system? 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:25.480 Well, first of all, I guess we should start with 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:30.000 what's the actual job description? Because it's such a catch 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.760 all of being a production assistant? What were you at 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:34.880 least told your job was going to be? 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.560 I may be dating myself here, but do you remember 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:39.320 the Muppet Show? 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:45.240 Of course, of course Gopher, Yes, Gopher was a PA. 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:46.760 Basically Gopher coffee. 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.360 Go for this, Go for that, Go for this. Your 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:53.080 Your job as a PA is to be available to 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.160 do whatever anybody wants at any given moment, at any 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:59.000 time during the day. It's very important that you have 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.440 a car than you have a brain or any kind 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:05.760 of skills. Stuff from here to there. This was pre internet, 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.280 Like everything now is, here's the script. Let's send out 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:13.240 the file. Like you would work working hours. You'd get 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.640 there at eight nine o'clock with a big tray of 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:21.040 bagels for Blutman and the writers, and you know, you 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:23.400 take care of lunches, you take care of any errands 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:25.920 it might be going on. You do use the copy, 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:30.040 your NonStop and then you wait for run through which 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:32.920 I didn't realize after run throughs and table reads that 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:37.640 scripts are always massively rewritten after notes from the network. 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.400 I assume the first big meeting where they're giving a 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:41.640 bunch of notes, I'm like, oh my gosh, is this 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:45.560 writer getting fired? Oh my god, what's going Yeah, everybody 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:47.760 kind of gets in and talks about, you know, what 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.320 jokes work and what jokes don't work, and then you 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.400 sit and you wait for the writers to rewrite the scripts, 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.360 and you get them their dinner, and then you wait 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:56.880 and you wait and you wait for the script to 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:00.400 come out. And that's really where the biggest party job, 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:02.760 at least at the time, happened, because you would end 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:06.760 up staying up all night copying two hundred and fifty 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.360 three hundred scripts and then delivering them all around town 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.680 and at the time, like we killed so many trees. 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:16.520 Yep, because like people who were like, look, you knew 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:18.880 that the head of the curtains department at Disney was 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:22.200 not cracking the third rewrite of the Boynese World script 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:26.600 right seven in the middle of the with the baby 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:28.840 pig in it, Like the curtains department doesn't need this, 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:30.560 but they have to get this, and they have to 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:30.960 get it at. 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:35.200 Two am or else if somebody does call them they said, 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.960 well I didn't get the script. So you'd be out 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:41.160 until two three in the morning most nights delivering these 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.240 scripts and then going to sleep and waking up and 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:44.720 starting the process all over again. 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:46.680 So like five days a week. 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:48.360 I mean, I know, like on tape days, maybe the 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.120 schedule was a little bit later because that was for 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:53.000 our Thursdays were tape night, so everybody came in a 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.320 little later, but your hours were really like getting there 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:58.720 at eight am and then working You're on the clock 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:00.200 until like three am. 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:01.000 You're on the. 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:04.159 Clock until everything is delivered. Luckily, there was three of us. 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:06.879 We had Carl Ellsworth and Mark Kooneerth are the other 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:08.879 pas who were there with me. We were both very 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:15.520 accomplished writers themselves. Yeah, and you you usually have somebody 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:17.920 who was kind of staggered a little bit to the Okay, 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:19.440 you're going to do these super late runs and you'll 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:20.320 come in a little bit later. 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:21.000 Okay. 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:23.840 Yeah, that's just kind of what the job was. Then. 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:26.560 So you mentioned some other pas. What was that? 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.240 Did you were you guys particularly close? Did you have 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:31.960 a way you would like did you talk ish about anybody? 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:34.600 Like did you did you gather together. 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:36.040 And go claw? Did you hear what he just asked 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:37.919 me for? Like, I want to know what was. 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:43.240 I just want to know about the relationship with you 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:46.080 and the other pas, and like the sharing of information 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:50.320 and the and the the knowing glances of Like we were. 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:53.280 Pretty tight knit the the I mean the people that 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:57.240 we dealt with for the We all wanted to be writers, 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.600 and as you guys know the business and all of 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:03.520 us were it was our first job. Uh So we 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:06.120 all wanted to be writers. So you try to get 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:08.760 in with the writers. And I will say this about 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:12.119 the boy. These world writers were all ridiculously kind to 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:17.320 us horror stories of other places where people wrong and 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:22.440 they throw up, you know, throw food container up against 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:25.080 the wall and you'll let you never ever, ever, ever 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:25.720 had any of that. 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:29.879 It was always really really fun. And they're also very fosters, like, oh, 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:30.480 what do you want to do? 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:32.080 Great? Okay, let me let me help you with that. 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.879 Once you've read written something, let me read it. Uh. 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:37.680 Yeah, it was great. 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.400 And you know, Mark uh and Carl and I are 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:42.440 all still in touch for this day. Wow. 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:45.400 Was there ever a time where you got to where 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:47.480 any of them asked you for an idea of a 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:49.000 joke or you got to pitch a joke? 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:50.800 Did you ever get close. 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:52.280 Enough or we're in the room during a time where 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:54.640 they were breaking a script where you felt comfortable making 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:55.280 a suggestion? 0:18:55.920 --> 0:19:01.120 Not really unboy in Meats World Michael Jake and by 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:03.880