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Speaker 1: to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos King, the

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Speaker 1: we'll sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry,

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Speaker 1: recap our favorite reality shows, and revisit unforgettable moments that

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Speaker 1: On today's episode of The King, you all have me

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Speaker 1: all to yourselves. Yes, now, I know it's been a

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Speaker 1: lot going on with New Jersey, I had to bring

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Speaker 1: on special guests. So that all of you who swear

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Speaker 1: up and down I'm on Teresa Julyi's payroll, that I'm

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Speaker 1: up Teresa's ass that I bring on people. So which

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Speaker 1: I'm biased. I'm confused, child, I really I don't know

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Speaker 1: know it's strange for some people to realize that. Look,

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Speaker 1: And then after that, you know, I want to talk

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Speaker 1: maybe you all don't understand the definition of a friendship.

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Speaker 1: I am not on Teresa's payroll. I'm on my own payroll, honey,

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Speaker 1: because I own my own company. Thank you. So now

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Speaker 1: I'm not on her payroll. I have an opinion, and

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Speaker 1: That's called honesty, transparency, truthfulness, that's what that is called.

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Speaker 1: all right, shifting gears, we have to talk about the

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Speaker 1: most recent episode of the Real Housewives of Orange County.

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Speaker 1: If you are not watching The Real Housewives of of

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Speaker 1: Orange County, you are missing out. It is a fantastic season.

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Speaker 1: It's tense across the board. There has not been one

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Speaker 1: filler episode. The star of this season goes to Gina, bitch, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Gina is I'm loving Gina. I'm loving Gina. Gina is funny,

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Speaker 1: She's she's clocked in. Gina is being authentic and funny.

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Speaker 1: Gina is like Lucille Ball. To me, Gina is funny

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Speaker 1: it's spectacular, it really is. It really is. So shout

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Speaker 1: to the pawn shop, okay and get the money. Hire

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Speaker 1: But we got to work on these confessional looks. Baby.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the fact that you acknowledge that silver number

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Speaker 1: So take the money that you're gonna make from Elizabeth

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Speaker 1: fuck not gotta hang out with Heather, Like, who That's

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Speaker 1: not fun? That's that's you know, that's not fun. Heather's

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Speaker 1: Shannon's going through a lot this season. And when I

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Speaker 1: for Tamor to just say to her, I have my opinions.

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Speaker 1: I don't think what you did was right. However, I'm

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Speaker 1: Let's be very clear. Tamer's making good TV. Guys. Let's

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Speaker 1: the time that these housewives, they're friendships are predicated on

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Speaker 1: the only true, genuine, I love you, die hard friendships

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Speaker 1: that without this show, we will be friends. Okay. What

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Speaker 1: Tamara's suffering through is the fact that she knows that

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Speaker 1: me so far is Katie Katie, I give your food, Baby,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if I see it from

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Speaker 1: its Katie girls, rain Drops, what do y'all think? Katie?

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Speaker 1: You may be a one season wonder. Where is Noela?

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Speaker 1: I want to see Noela. I don't, Katie. I'm trying, Baby,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying. Baby. I need CPR, baby, Baby, I need

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Speaker 1: have to call the paparazzi. That was a cute moment,

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Speaker 1: But again, please rain Drops. If you're not watching, watch

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Speaker 1: the Real Housewatch of Orange County. It is by far

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Speaker 1: the best housewives on television today. Okay, and news, rain Drops.

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Speaker 1: So next week is Labor Day, so we will not

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