1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: What's up, guys. Chris Hary with you on the Chargers 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Podcast Network and this is the Backstage Chargers Podcast presented 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: by your Southern California Toyota Dealers. Another episode of Mike 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: and Ike. This week, kicker Michael Badgeley and defensive end 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 1: Isaac Rochelle sat down with defensive tackle Justin Jones, and 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: the guys mentioned it in this conversation. Justin is an 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: awesome storyteller. He goes into his football journey, including his 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: time at NC State, his draft day story, and much 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: much more. So let's get right into it. Here's Mike 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: and Ike with Justin Jones. Welcome back to the Mike 11 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: and Ike Show and no not the Candy a show 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: with Michael Badgeley and Isaac rochell where we bring players 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: on and we get their perspective of their story. Today 14 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: we have JJ Justin Jones. Hey, hey, hey, let me 15 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: introduce this guy. And he introduce this guy. He wears 16 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: number ninety three for the Los Angeles Chargers. He was 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: born in the Bronx Bronx, New York Wow and he 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: claims Atlanta Wow. Keeping went down to Georgia, attended South 19 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: Cob High School, goes to NC State, ends up being 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: a third round pick for the Los Angeles Chargers. JJ, 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. So ye're just gonna was gonna 22 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: tell my whole lives story like that for everybody. That's 23 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: just the beginning. That's and you are like really attacking me. 24 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: You've been attacking me all day, bro, Like are we good? Bro? 25 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: Here's well. So for the listeners, JJ and I obviously 26 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: play on the d line together, so we spend a 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of the day messing with each other, 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: and JJ obviously feels attacked, definitely getting bullied for sure. Sure, listen, 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: we just started this interview. Let's not get going this quick, 30 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: no doubt. So, JJ, it says you're from New York. 31 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: I know that you're from north of Atlanta. Can you 32 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: just settle this this discrepancy between New York Atlanta. I 33 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: was definitely born in New York, yeah, right, the Bronx. 34 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,279 Speaker 1: But my move to Pennsylvania with my grandmama died, and 35 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: from there we moved to Florida, right, And from Florida, 36 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: I moved to Georgia. And I was in Georgia since 37 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: the fifth grade and from the fifth grade to about 38 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: twelfth grade, before I went to Ncy State. That's where 39 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: I was. So, yes, I'm from George Joe Cobb County. 40 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: I love it. I'm a Georgia boy, So I respect 41 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: that you are not a Georgia boy because you don't 42 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: know the Georgian music. Oh man, Jeeze, I do know 43 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: the Georgian music. But I get what you're coming from, 44 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: and you do have a unique perspective of music because 45 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: you're an inspiring rapper. Listen, let's put it this way. 46 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: Isaac's a farmer from Georgia and you're straight from eight Town, Atlanta, MI. 47 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: He milks cows, cows, and like, hey, and like what, 48 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: I grew up on a farm. For the listeners and 49 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: for the people, this is your interview. But I will 50 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: say I grew up on a farm. I'm just gonna 51 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: tell you right now. I'm never squeeze an utter in 52 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: my life. I've never squeezed another either. How you milk cows, 53 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: I'll squeeze outers. We didn't milk cows. We had a 54 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: farm kind of like a hobby farm. So we had 55 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: sought cows for a hobby. No, we had well, we 56 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: just buy and sell, so we had at one time 57 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: we had probably fifty cows. We had fifteen to twenty goats. 58 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: So let me get this right. So you you milk 59 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: cows for a hobby and sold the milk. Just bought 60 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: and sold, just bought and sold cows. All right, here 61 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: we go, Here we go. Okay, j j JJ Isaac's 62 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: a farmer. We get it. So you claimed Cobb County. 63 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: You gave us your whole story of where you're to 64 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: move a couple of different places in here. But how 65 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: did you get started in football? Take us through that 66 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: whole story, honestly. So basically, I moved around a lot, right, 67 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: And when I got Georgia for the first time, like 68 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: I didn't have any free and think about it, fifth grade, 69 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: I'm moved around like four or five times. I never 70 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: had no real school. So when I got to school, 71 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: like I didn't have any friends, right, So me playing football, 72 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: I actually started making friends with football. Like I used 73 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: to go, I used to go to the lunch table 74 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: and sit with nobodysy by myself, got hand of friends 75 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: when I started playing football. That's when I started making 76 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: the friends. And I can go sit to the table 77 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: with these guys because we playing the same team. Even 78 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: like I wasn't even good like people. I used to 79 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: get on the boardrill like quarterbacks, and they used to 80 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: freaking murder quarterback. He used to come and drive me 81 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: on the ground like I hurt my finger. I was 82 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: climbing when played no more. I was like, bro, this 83 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: is this is not for me. Wow. But like I said, 84 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: the friendships and the bonds, like one of the dudes 85 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: I actually started, like started me playing, helped me start 86 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: playing football, like I'm the golf all of his child 87 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: right now, you know what I'm saying. So if you 88 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: think about that, going from fifth grade to where I'm 89 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: at now, like it's that that bond, Like without football, 90 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: I never would I never would have got it. What's 91 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: his name, Malik shout out to shout mdal Man, no doubt, 92 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: Which is crazy because it's like you look at the 93 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: JJ now and then you think back you started football struggling. Yeah, 94 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: I was turning talks to him JJ. He talked to 95 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: him JJ. So you continue and then it says here 96 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: you went to South Cob Yeah, so at what point 97 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: did football start to turn for you? All Right? So 98 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: ninth grade, right, I was just bigger than everybody for 99 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: the most part, so I was just really just throwing 100 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: everybody around people, bodying people, right. But in the sophomore year, 101 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: I got my first start against mckeachra late a week five. 102 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: My first game was against Darius English and I remember 103 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: full and well. He came to the ball with a 104 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: with a black visor. He was six to seven rocked up. 105 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, and I would oh my god. I 106 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: was looking at him like, bro, So I get in 107 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: my stands. Mind you, he's in high school, right. He 108 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: get him a little stance about to block him. You 109 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, We try to block him, and 110 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm like, oh damn right. So the pass play, 111 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: I know they're slotting that way. So I got I 112 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: got him on the island and he literally gives up 113 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: the ball, takes one hand, throws me to the end zone, 114 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: to the end zone, throws me to the end zone, 115 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: stacks the quarterback does a little crowd thing and I 116 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: got like turfing my eye. So I'm like getting up 117 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: trying to get it out, and my coaches like come 118 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: to the side and he was like, do you know 119 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: what just happened? I was like, I don't know. I 120 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: couldn't see so that's what happened. I couldn't what happened. 121 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: He said, you got a quarterback killed, and after that 122 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't played against the game. So that's 123 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: so that's also when your coach came up to He 124 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: was like, JJ, we're gonna put you on defense. So 125 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: actually I went to a camp exactly. I went to 126 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: a camp the end of my sophomore You're right, and 127 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: I was playing online and I was dogging everything. I 128 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: was playing old line, played a little bit of D line, 129 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: and it was like, you look more like a D line, 130 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: but did the coach I was trained with the time, 131 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: like from my athletic abilities and stuff like that. He 132 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: was like, you're a D line, bro, like that's what 133 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: it is. And I was like, all right, you can 134 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: say that, but I'm playing on line. So I go 135 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: to a camp, I balled out. I get a defensive MVP, 136 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: but I played on oldine, so it's kind of weird. 137 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: I told my coach like, hey man, you're obviously just 138 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: a beast. Listen to m vps are big on this show, 139 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: so't that tire up a little bit MDP baby? So yeah, 140 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: I get the MVP and then uh my coach is like, 141 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: let's put them on d lines what they can do. Right. 142 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: I started doing my thing, and from there, which is up? 143 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: From there, I started getting the offers and everything, Like 144 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: I supposed to go to Miami. You know that was 145 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: my first offer for you, baby, I was about to 146 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: commit on us. You blew it, Like, listen, what that's 147 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: not true? Yeah? It talked to this man. NC NC 148 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: State in the last few years has been consistently better 149 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: than Miami. Okay, before we get to NC State. Listen, 150 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: you're getting all these offers you turned down to you 151 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: for whatever reason. I don't My mom said I wasn't 152 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: going to graduate, so she said I couldn't go. It 153 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: just makes sense I was gonna go for sure. Wow, 154 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: you were hands down. You would have graduated. I would 155 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: have loved Miami. Yes, I don't know if i'd graduate, though. 156 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: You would have graduated probably not. I was there. I 157 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: would have helped you graduate. You probably wouldn't have. The 158 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: question of the day, would Badge have helped or hurt j? 159 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: J graduate from Deely would have hurt me and I 160 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: have had a good time. All right. So you're getting 161 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: a couple of offers. What are some other schools that 162 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: we're looking at you, oh everywhere old miss Mississippi State, 163 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: Florida freaking uh Clemson told me I was too short 164 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: to play go figure. That's disrespectful, disrespect Their dtackles really 165 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: aren't even like you feel me, bro, like Georgia told 166 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: me I was too short. Like Georgia always says that. 167 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: They also were different Defense and NTY State at the time, 168 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: though they did have a d tackle who was like 169 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: six seven, like he's a house. I know exactly what 170 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: you're talking about. You know what I'm talking about. I 171 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: had three dudes when you would have been getting recruited 172 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: and the three four Defense. These dudes were houses, freaking houses, 173 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: bro story houses. They were units like it, bro, like 174 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: this is me and this is them type deal. Like. 175 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: So you went to I mean, I'm just terrible radio. 176 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: You you just hit in your hand. But yeah, it's 177 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: for the video, it's for the people watching. But you 178 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: went to you went to Anti State. Anti State when 179 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: you were there had an unreal group of d Lineman. 180 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: Did you know that going into Anti My boy Cho 181 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: had a brother that went the way for us. And 182 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: I've trained with child since I was in like seventh grade. 183 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: Each other. I didn't know that. So I've trained whins. 184 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: I was in seventh grade, so we have so any school. 185 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: They went to see him, they came to see me 186 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: in school, they went to see me. They went to 187 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: see him. So we went all of our visits together 188 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: for the most part, so it would be stupid. Now 189 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: they go to the same school. So we ended up 190 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: going to Duke and wait forward and he was like, 191 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: going to anty state. I said any state. He was 192 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: like yeah. I said they d one. Bro, he had 193 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: no idea. He was like he was like one. I 194 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, didn't. He's like, yeah, didn't. Acc I said, Bro, 195 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: I've never seen him in a game, not one time. Bro. 196 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: You when we're talking about you and as you trimman, Well, 197 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: here's the thing. Have you ever heard of a guy 198 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: named by Mario Williams at the time? No? Have you 199 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: ever heard of Philip Rivers at the time? No? No, okay, 200 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: that's fair. So I get there and I'm like, oh, 201 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: this is doing really kind of straight. I love that. 202 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: My d lion coach was crazy still, but like he 203 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He knew about the position, 204 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: technical stuff and everything, so that's really how you got 205 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: me to I wanted to go. I wanted to Gallady 206 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: commit on on that day too. And you know my 207 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: mom maybe way a week because he's always trying to 208 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: be logical. Yeah again, great radio looking at the camera. 209 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: I love it. So with the cool part about this, 210 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: I didn't know that you and you and Chub were 211 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: that close in high school where you both were just 212 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: seventh grade. That's crazy. You guys decided let's go to 213 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: the same school. I mean, you only really see that. 214 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: You don't see as much in football recruiting. You see 215 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: that in basketball where I got your team up those 216 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: top star UH athletes going to the same school like 217 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: Dike with r J in Zion. But so you and Chubb, 218 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: you know, not a big deal. You guys are beast 219 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: and you guys decided to go to the state. Yeah, 220 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: that that is crazy. What was it like early on? 221 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: Though you guys are both beasts. You guys are early on? 222 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: Did you you didn't red shirt? No poop poop poop? 223 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: What I mean, what does that even mean? Like like poop? 224 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: Like we trash like wow, which is surprising because then 225 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: two years later, at the time he was only getting 226 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: reps on kickoff, Wow, right, And I was getting like 227 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: two repsond Ty and you know, Thomas to you, like, 228 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: I get like five reps the game and I'll be 229 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: like piped up my fire reps and coach take me up. 230 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: I come out, you know what I'm saying. So then 231 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: freshman year, according to you poop, which is hard to 232 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: believe looking at you now. And then sophomore year, junior year, 233 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: like when did that year? Like so it's really like 234 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: it's really like so it's really like evolving, you know 235 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, once those seniors you realize it's 236 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: your time, right then you have to you have to. 237 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: It's one or two things that you're gonna do. You 238 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Either you're gonna back down from 239 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: whatever is going on. You're gonna rise up to the occasion. 240 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: Than me. I wasn't raised not to back down for anything. 241 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna rise to every 242 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: type of occasion, whatever it is. You know what I'm saying, 243 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: That's just how I was raised. And like so when 244 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: then when a series leaving and everybody leaving, I knew 245 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: it was our time. You know, we're yelling to step 246 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: it up. That we had to step it up. That's 247 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: what we did. We stepped it up so that that 248 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: three and nine season they had before we got there, 249 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: we never saw it again. That first year it was 250 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: there eight and five, next year it was eight and five. 251 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: Then the next year after that we were like nine 252 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: and four or some crazy it's like that, right, but 253 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: progressively getting better, you know what I'm saying. As the 254 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: years go, buying, progressively getting getting closer together, you know 255 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it got to a point where 256 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: it didn't even seem like we were playing football just 257 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: to play football. No more like we're playing in this 258 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: joint that fun, like we go out there to go crazy, 259 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: like that's just what it is. Like I'll make a play, 260 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: like I'll make a play. And until he made no 261 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: plays there, I'd be like, you know you, hey, I 262 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: know you know what I'm saying. I like you sleeping, 263 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I look at street like 264 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: the same thing, like you ain't hey, I got two sacks. 265 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: You ain't got no one yet? Bro with you? With 266 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: you waiting on you're having two which what need you wait? 267 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: No Christmas? Like what would you wait knowing like, nah, 268 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: you feel me like it, get it, get competitive like that, 269 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: But it's all it's all for the greater good. We 270 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: all want to make the team matter. That's what we did. 271 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: So so how much of that has to do with 272 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: just being at NC State because NC State just like 273 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: he was saying, thinking Miami's the best school in the ACC, 274 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: NC State slept on. How much did that have to 275 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: do with y'all's attitude going into games? Oh well, we 276 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: always knew he was on the dog right, Which it's 277 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: crazy because y'all are usually nice. Well, here's the thing 278 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: with with the ACC. The Atlantic Division was always strong 279 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: kind of when we were there. You had Clemson you 280 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: at Florida State rolling. So those are the two top 281 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: teams in that side of the division. Then the Coastal 282 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: it was Miami obviously and teams like Virginia Tech this man. So, 283 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: I mean, the the Atlantic side was always tough to win. No, 284 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: it's for really, you know, Clemson was rolling, Miami was 285 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: never rolling. We beat the only time, the only tank 286 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: only time I played against NC State. For the viewers 287 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: and listeners, we beat you guys, watch that game and 288 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: watch twenty seven, which, by the way, that brings me 289 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: to talk to him about this. So name on Instagram 290 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: twenty seven savage. Yeah, follow him on I G if 291 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: you want. But my question is twenty seven. I'm sorry, 292 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: it's D Lineman. That is an absolute trash number. Yeah, 293 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: what it is? It is? It is. That's fair, D Lineman. 294 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: If you're gonna go out of the box, if you're 295 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: gonna go out of the ninety box, single digit or nineties, yes, 296 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: that's the ball. First of all, I'm gonna get this. 297 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: Let's get I'm gonna nit this in the pud right now. 298 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: Twenty seven is a freaking savage number on me. Stop 299 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: playing with me. Just for the record, you have to 300 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: say that what I'm saying, but twenty lionsay, twenty seven 301 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: look good on me. Twenty seven did not look good 302 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: on you? Horrible? Are you serious? Listen? And I'll say 303 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: this now. It's almost as if when you walked into 304 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: the equipment room at NC State, they were like, hey, 305 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: what number do you want? You said, A bunch of 306 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: numbers are like, well, we got twenty seven. Did you 307 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: choose twenty seven? What's it given? You want to hear 308 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: the honest story or do you please? I want to 309 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: I want to I want to hear that we don't 310 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: have ninety three. You're taking twenty seven. Story can't get 311 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: this paper off, you take it. I came into my 312 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: head coach's office, right, I said, Coach, I want the 313 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: lowest number you can give me. Are you serious? And 314 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: he said twenty seven. No, he said you can get eleven. 315 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: He said you can get you can get uh, you 316 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: can get eleven, you can get ten, you can get uh, 317 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty four, twenty seven, twenty nine. He started 318 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: going up to list. I was like, listen, way back, listen, 319 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: way back when, way back when I was a really 320 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: really really big Giants fan, really really really big Brandon 321 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: Jacobs fan. Right, well, he's a big big Brandon Brandon 322 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: Jacobs was like my guy, like he was the biggest 323 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: running back I've ever seen in my life, and gave 324 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: me hope because I want four to twenty. I wanted 325 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: to play running back so bad, bro, but not not. 326 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: I was running they do as a dub like, yeah, 327 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: that's not happening, good bro. But that's really that's really 328 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: the reason why I just had to go with twenty seven. 329 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: Because Brennan Jake's awarding as close as I can get 330 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: to you know what I'm saying like, yeah, we'll let you. 331 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: We'll let it go. If that's theories, we'll let it go. 332 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: And to be honest, you owned it. I mean you 333 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: made your Instagram handle and you were just a pieced 334 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: on the field. It's really a brand. Now you are 335 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: the twenty seven times m D Savage D twenty seven Savage. Well, 336 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: and he had to buy Pass eleven. Fun fact for 337 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: badge eleven doesn't look good on big people. Well, depend 338 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: the ones will start to split, doesn't look good. I really, 339 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: I think J Jacob Paul if any number appreciate it. Bro, 340 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: try to play my twenty seve I don't want your 341 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: hands shake. Oh wow, that was right on camera. That 342 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: was good. Looks like you're never coming back on the show. 343 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: And sure so Actually good story about that Miami game. 344 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: Uh so, you know, Chubb obviously had a ton of 345 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, everyone was talking about Chubb Chubb this, Chubb that, 346 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: and uh you knew what you were capable of doing. 347 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: But I remember after that game, I was talking to 348 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: those buddies with a couple of old lineman on our team, 349 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: and uh, I asked you, what was it like blocking Chubb, 350 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: and he was like, I really wasn't worried about Chubb. 351 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: It was twenty seven, twenty seven Savage seven Savage. He said, 352 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: twenty seven was killing me all day, and that too, 353 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: I was worried about. So I didn't even know you 354 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: at this point. I just remember saying twenty seven. Quinn 355 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: Nelson said the same thing, same thing. So this is 356 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: a great segue. You got all these old linemens saying this, 357 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: and then you enter this draft process. What's the thought 358 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: going into the draft process? You did see your ball 359 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: all these things. What was the mindset for twenty seven savage? 360 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: Twenty seven Savage. I'm gonna go somewhere and I'm I'm 361 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: gonna go crazy. That's just I got to like money. 362 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: I'm not just I gotta rise to the occasion, bro. Yeah, 363 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They don't get me wrong, Like, 364 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, you have your doubts and everything, but at 365 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: the same time, like after doubts, bro, like, let let's 366 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: do this. You feel mean, let's let's go crazy, man, 367 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: Let's let's make this money. Let's win these games, man, 368 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: Like this this is what you're here for. You know 369 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but keep it a stack. My draft day, 370 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: like I went bowling on my mom. Boys were stressed. 371 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 1: He was She wasn't supposed to invite nobody. She invited 372 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: like six people, and they every time I might get droned, 373 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: they looking at me like a classic And I'm like, now, 374 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: mind you Like it's like sixty degrees ac blowing in 375 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: the bowling I'm drenching sweat. I got my phone in 376 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: my hand. I'm saying, like bro throwing gunner balls all around. 377 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm bowing my eyes glued to the TV like I'm 378 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: just like bro. Everybody's looking at me like someone gets picked. Oh. 379 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: I wish we had the little uh pick us in 380 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: the sound because that thing was so stressful every time 381 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: it goes. So I ended up leaving the bowling alley, 382 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,479 Speaker 1: like left my whole family. I go getting a shower, right, 383 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm not getting drafted to night. It's 384 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: crazy if I'm gonna go tomorrow. Right. So my phone 385 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: starts ringing. Mind I'm getting shower, I'm about to miss 386 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: the call, right, and I hear it buzzing on the 387 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: on the counter. So I picked it up, LA and 388 00:17:53,240 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: mind my fingers went I'm like great radio, Like I'm 389 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: slip slip, get to get the phone open whatever, and 390 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: it opens and he was like you're ready, and bro, 391 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: all I can possibly say was like, yes, they're all 392 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: ready to go. I'm ready to go, Like come get 393 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: me please, I've been waiting on you in me to 394 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: fight right now, I'm ready, like let's go, Like he 395 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: come on, I just yeah, man, it was cool. I 396 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: was gonna say not to cut you off early. JJ 397 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: is an unreal storyteller. He's great. I never I've never 398 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: known that, but he's told a couple of stories, preser, 399 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: and it's good for radio, Like you're saying, ya know, 400 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: I'm locked in on everything. He's got to go, all right. 401 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: A quick break to remind you to subscribe to the 402 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: All New Chargers podcast Network. Wherever you listen to podcasts, 403 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: it's your one stop for all things Chargers, directly from 404 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: the team in depth conversations and analysis, players, coaches, executives, 405 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: national reporters and broadcasters, and much more. 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But 414 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: before draft day, you know, I remember the amount of 415 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: stress I went to the Senior Bowl. I would combine 416 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: all that. You know, what was kind of your process 417 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: with all that? What was going on in your head? 418 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: Were you saying I'm better than all these guys? You 419 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You were saying I got to 420 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: prove something? Or was it kind of just I know 421 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: what I'm capable of doing. I'm gonna go out there 422 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: and show everybody, So keep it. To be honest with you, 423 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: like I really like I knew for a fact that 424 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: I was gonna get drafted somewhere. Yeah, I was gonna 425 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: go somewhere, Like is this I knew that. But it's 426 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: a matter of where you know what I'm saying, and 427 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: like what are my teammates gonna be? Like? Like my 428 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: d gonna be close? You know what I'm saying, or 429 00:19:58,359 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a good group, or we're gonna be 430 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: all the divided because if we had a divided room, 431 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I can't really like flourish 432 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: in a divided room. You know what I can't because 433 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm a people person. I talked to everybody like I'm 434 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: cool with everybody, like you, You'll never You'll never just 435 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: see me just angry moping around like, oh, I don't 436 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: mess with zones, I don't miss a soone, so you'll 437 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: never see that, you know what I'm saying, Like I 438 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: literally taught everybody I can second that you feel me. 439 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: But it's like being drafted to the charges and being 440 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: on this d line, Like I feel like that that 441 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: was written, Like I couldn't be in a better situation, 442 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like think think about the 443 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: guys we having in a room. I could not be 444 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: in a better situation. So last year, me being obviously 445 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: last year, I was huge. If you if you didn't know, 446 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: boy lost like twenty five pounds, bro I was three 447 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: thirteen last year unit unit and what was the dude's 448 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: name from my high school that tossed you into the 449 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: end zone. You were him unit units, absolute unit. Okay, 450 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: so we just leave it at that unit essentially, essentially, 451 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: just to kind of bring everything back. Going through the 452 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: whole draft process, you weren't worried about anything except draft day. 453 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: You were like, yeah, let me just get the draft day. 454 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go show everybody what I got. Get the 455 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: draft day. Whatever team I get, I hope I fit 456 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: in it and I work well. So now talk about 457 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: your first year with the Chargers. You know, you said 458 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: you were overweight, you weren't feeling great. Oh pooh, yeah, 459 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: oh was pooh. Everybody was so much so college. The 460 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: philosophy in college was the bigger you are, the stronger 461 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: you are, the better you'll be. That's every college. It's ridiculous, right, 462 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: So coming to the league, I'm like, the bigger you are, 463 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: the stronger you are, the better man. I get front 464 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: of these old lime I'm heavier than everybody I'm going against. 465 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: For the most part, I'm like, bro, these guys are 466 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: flying left and right. I can't even get my foot 467 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: and ground for their past me. So I'm like this, 468 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: this is this is bad. So but me watching like 469 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: guys like Corey who coming at two ninety. You know 470 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like guys like you know, bang who 471 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: you dropped? Who was three twenty and dropped to three 472 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: or five? You know what I'm saying, And Mail playing 473 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: at two forty two fifty, you know what I'm saying, 474 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: Like just Joey playing at two fifty two six, Like 475 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 1: just seeing stuff like that, Like guys are really like slimming, 476 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: They're They're really there, They're slim athletes. I'm okay, take 477 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: note like me, I'm a very I'm a very visual person. 478 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: I got I take notes on everybody. I watched everybody. 479 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: I watch how they work and stuff like that, and 480 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: see what works and what doesn't work. I got paid 481 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: this and everything. And so seeing that, going to the 482 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: all season, I knew for a fact, I'm I'm about 483 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: to drop some weight or I gotta drop a lot 484 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: of weight. So first I started boxing, right, that was cool, 485 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I started doing, uh 486 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: what else I did? Us? I did what else I did? Oh? 487 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: I trained with Leasy, you know what I'm saying for 488 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Then I went to Dallas. I 489 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 1: did some some de line stuff out there and then 490 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty degree weather, you feel me and 491 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: for someone like for some reason, when I went to Dallas, 492 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: I was three hundred. When I left Dallas, I was 493 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: two eighty five, and I was just like, like just 494 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: two eighty five, just feeling feeling good, feel like a man, 495 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: feeling good. Man. So you left you after your first season, 496 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: which we went to the playoffs so lost in the 497 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: divisional round. After that season, you weren't feeling satisfied. So 498 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: you were like, I gotta go change something. I gotta 499 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: go become JJ right right, I got I gotta go, 500 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: I gotta go. And you took all these steps and 501 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: you only felt good. And then he come into OTAs 502 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: or he come into mini camp and then training camp 503 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, I'm that dog. Usually gotta one thing. 504 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: One thing I tell I tell a lot of people, 505 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, a lot of people talking like, oh, 506 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just trying to be where you and 507 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be where you were at and I'm like, bro, 508 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: I'm not even where I want to be. Bro, you 509 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, But the thing I tell them, 510 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: you have to believe that you that dog. You know 511 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If you don't believe that, bro nobody's 512 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: gonna believe that. You feel me like, So that's like 513 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: that's like that's like somebody you're trying to sell somebody 514 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: a product and you don't even use it, right, you 515 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like that, you can't because you 516 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: don't believe it. If you don't believe in yourself, nobody's 517 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: gonna believe in you. So if you you believe you 518 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: that dog, eventually you're gonna become that dog. You know 519 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because if you keep it a constant 520 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: thing in your head, like coach Gus Brody was talking 521 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: today about, if you keep that positivet in your head, 522 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: eventually that's joint. It's gonna grow on you. It's gonna 523 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: become a party. It's gonna be a party of a DNA. 524 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: So me being a dog, I'm saying I'm a dog, 525 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: I'm a beast now, But I've been saying I'm a dog, 526 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm a beat since Joom, since freaking since the end 527 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: of the divisional around. I've been saying that since then. 528 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: So the fact that I'm saying it now, ya't know 529 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: maybe he's a beast. Now that started, that started riping 530 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: the seasons overcause I'll do what I want to do. 531 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: You feel me, I love it. But one thing, one 532 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: thing I think that I've noticed about you, especially not 533 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: not even only through this interview, but just you know, 534 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: watching you and practice and everything. A lot of people 535 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: will tell themselves that they're a dog and they won't 536 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: do anything about it. Right, you actually went out and 537 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: got that much better. Yeah, I took a huge jump. Yeah, 538 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: took a huge jump. I had to remember. We talked 539 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: about I talked about evolution, like being from like that 540 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: first year to that sophomore year to be in a 541 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: senior like same thing in the league. Your first year, Okay, 542 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: you feel around, you know what it is now right 543 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: your second year? Evolution, You gotta evolve. You gotta become 544 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: that dude. Now, you know what I'm saying. Like, and 545 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: that's my main thing. I gotta become that dude. You 546 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because I'm trying to have that 547 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 1: role where my team could depend on me and they 548 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: can they can look, they can they can have my 549 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: six and just keep looking. You know what I'm saying. 550 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: They got to worry about what's going on behind their backs. 551 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: They know' gonn hold it down like that. That's what 552 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: I want to have. That's that's the type of dude 553 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: I am. I want you to know that if we're 554 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: fighting in the dark, you ain't got to look for 555 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: me because you know I got your back and I'm 556 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: a hand them on. You know what I'm saying, like, 557 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: that's that's that's how I want to You know me, man, 558 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: JJ got me turns and I think the coolest thing 559 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: about JJ, and I'm gonna gass you up a little bit. 560 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: Everything he's saying is one hundred percent like you're saying. 561 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: You can see it on the field because you did 562 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: make such a big jump, and I think it was 563 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: not only the body, like you're saying, you improve your body, 564 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: but mentally you could see like a different type of confidence, 565 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: confidence that you have always had, but now you're kind 566 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: of coming into it, and I think it's displayed completely 567 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: everything you're saying. The pre pres ed bro what a beast. 568 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: So I'm curious to hear what you say. Because we 569 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: asked Dan Feeney this last last week when we interviewed him, 570 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: do you feel like you're different JJ now than you 571 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: were when you first entered the league for sure, hands down, 572 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: hands down, just from just from the way I act 573 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: in practice in general, like now you won't follow me 574 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: in practice of all dancing I gotta have because I 575 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: just my thing is, like I have so much fun 576 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: playing football, Like think about what you do for a living, 577 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: Like I would never be on the side of the 578 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: country without football. Right, So I'm out of here in 579 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: LA playing football for a living, making the best, probably 580 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,479 Speaker 1: the most of my money you could ever made at 581 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: this age. You know what I'm saying, playing football? Right? 582 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 1: What else could you? What else would you rather be doing? 583 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: Why not enjoy it? You know what I'm saying, Like, 584 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: why not have fun doing this? That's why you've never 585 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: seen that practice, not dance. You've never seen me that 586 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: practice not having a good time. Even though when I 587 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: come to the builders of times, I'd be like, bro, 588 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: you got another day of this, right, you know what 589 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But once once I was strapped it up, bro, 590 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: Like get outside in the field, row, It's like I'm 591 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: ready to go. Man likes. It's time to have some fun. 592 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: It's time it's time to you know what I'm saying 593 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: out with the guys like like a lot of people 594 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: probably say that stuff for granted, but I really love that, 595 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And that's why I said 596 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: about the team being so close, and but the line 597 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: group being so close, Like I talked to everybody, like 598 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: I joked with everybody. But the thing is, like I 599 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: would love to do that, you know what I'm saying, 600 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: because that's just who I am. So last year I 601 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: felt like I was more of a learning PHASEE just 602 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: trying to learn how things were. So yeah, I wasn't 603 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: really dancing that practice, I wasn't really talking to everybody 604 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: like that. I need to see how everybody moved first, 605 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you have to temperature. 606 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying for you going there? You 607 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: feel me like it was too hot. I ain't evenna Hey, 608 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna le talk about cool down real quick. For 609 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: going there. You feeling me so? But until you yeah, 610 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you've had an unreal evolution in the league. 611 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: Und you had an unreal evolution in college. Let's talk 612 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: about this, j J. Talk to me about the evolution 613 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: of the shoes. You have the most shoes out of 614 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: anybody that I've ever met. You have the Jordans that 615 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: TD gave you. Thom up in the camera. Please talk 616 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: to us. Yeah, zoom zoom in for the for the listeners. 617 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: We're zooming in right now. Hey, I'm asking you do 618 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: get my um, but seriously talk to us about the 619 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: shoe evolution because it's crazy. So you so, how many 620 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: pairs we need a number for the already exactly how 621 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: many you got? I got like one hundred, one hundred 622 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: and thirty seven, one hundred and thirty six. So talk 623 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: to us about the evolution. So why it started in 624 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: high school? So my mom would give me like two 625 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: hundred dollars at the beginning of the year. You buy clothes, 626 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: you buy shoes, whatever, if you need, you get it right. 627 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: My dad, i'd probably give me like a hundred bucks. 628 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: That's three hundred total to get whatever right. So I'll 629 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: buy a pair of shoes or two. I'll take those shoes, 630 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: I'll wear them once or twice. I'll go sell them 631 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: in school. So if I bought these shoes for one 632 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty and those for one hundred, I'm selling 633 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 1: it for two hundred and then for one fifty right, 634 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm being SI If I used to get on the 635 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: school bus with three listen, I used to go to 636 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: school bus with three bags full of sneakers, like I'm Chris, 637 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: I'm Santa Claus coming to school, bro big bag. People 638 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: giving me Brady hated you fill me with the shoes 639 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: like I asked all I did, like I sold and 640 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: traded shoes. Like if I started one pair of shoes 641 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year, I would I would 642 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: end the year or at least twenty twenty four pair 643 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: of sneakers myself with and cash in my pocket from 644 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying to a year like I'm 645 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: That's what I was though, Like I refused to do 646 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: something illegal, but I still needed the money. You know 647 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I still still want to be fresh. 648 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: I still wanted to be fresh. I still wanted to 649 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: have all the best clothes. Like it's it's different things 650 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: you could do, you know what I'm saying, to get 651 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: what you want without you know what I'm saying, breaking 652 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: the law, And that's that's that's the mindset I had 653 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: so coming into the NFL, Like me, I always want 654 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: to Jorg Like me, I got y'all. I got like 655 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: the designerary thing, but I just love Jordan, I love Nikes, 656 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: I love design of my own shoes. I got some 657 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: custom shoes in there too. I designed like I like. 658 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: I just like sneakers, like I can wear sneakers with anything, 659 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: true sneakerhead. I'm not a sneakerhead because they're a sneaker. 660 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,719 Speaker 1: I made it. Come on, what are we defining as 661 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: a sneaker? Thirty plus pairs of shoes? I just have. 662 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: I just have a passion for having shoes. I have. 663 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: I have a passion for having shoes, like I just 664 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: I look at them like the world. You know what 665 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like like when people come over like, oh, 666 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: he got somebody shoes and I'm like, yeah, I know, yeah, 667 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: but I feel like you have a true appreciation for shoes. 668 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: It's not a basic like I'm a sneakerhead hype beast. 669 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: Turnout like sure, like the these are cool to me? Right. 670 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: One thing I can tell you right now, like every 671 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: pair of sneaker in my closet, I can tell you 672 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: everywhere I was when I got them, everywhere I was 673 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: when I got them, to impression how much they caused 674 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: and why I bought them. Wow, So since you know 675 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: every cause, what's the total of all the shoes altogether? 676 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: Do you actually know the total? Come on by no, No, No, 677 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,239 Speaker 1: I'm joking. I'm gonna kill me. Well, I have one 678 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: more question about the shoes. If you could pick one 679 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: pair of shoes that you have to wear for the 680 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: rest of your life, you can't take off of another 681 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: you can't take off the shoes. Well, you can't take 682 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: off the shoes, but you have to wear them to 683 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: every event. What would you wear? Shadow ones? The what 684 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: shadow ones? That's easy? That was quick. They grand black, 685 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: grand black Jordo ones like one with anything. I got 686 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: a white bottom. So if I want to wear anything white, 687 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: I could wear. If I want to wear anything black, 688 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: I can wear them. If I wanted to wear something, 689 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: you know what saying with some color and I can 690 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: still wear them. I can win with a tugs like 691 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: wearing with anything. You can wear ord ones with anything. 692 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: Look at that. I mean, did you prepare for that? No? 693 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: But I just like I justn't know, like I can 694 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: wear them. If I have a fit that I just 695 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: know it has nothing to go with. I can go 696 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: get them and I can put some shadow one that. 697 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: Do you know what shadow ones look like? Uh? He 698 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: described them pretty well. I think I do. I have 699 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,479 Speaker 1: no clue what they look like. Oh wow, we've got 700 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: for the again for the listeners. We have a picture 701 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: right here, definitely. Now, I got a pair just like those. 702 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: All right, But you know, if I say this, I 703 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: hope you understand what I'm talking about. I got the 704 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: Calvin Cambridges. You ain't got the Calvin I got think Calvin. 705 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: I know what I've seen you wear him the games. Yeah, 706 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: I got the Calvin Cambridges. How much they were on you? 707 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe like a one hunt not bad badges. 708 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: Simple badge wears his little blue jeans, his H and 709 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: M sweater and these Calvin cambridges to every game. Listen, 710 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: I throw on a Marty McFly. Look if anything with 711 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: those shoes and jeans, that's fair. He doesn't know who 712 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: Marty mcflies. I don't know who Marty met A joke, 713 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: but you actually don't know keep it to keep it 714 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: a stack. But you I was really gonna laugh and 715 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: like hat like I knew what you was talking about. 716 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: So Marty McFly Back to the future. You know the 717 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: movie um, just one last question, because I think Badge 718 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: and I are both really curious. You have to give 719 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: us just a little insight into the rap career. We're 720 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: not asking for a line. Why did you start rapping? 721 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: I think you're really talented for the listeners, I would 722 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: compare him to Rick Ross. He's not Rick Ross, but 723 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: i'd compare him to Rick Ross. It's a fair comparison. 724 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: Did you said? You said he is a studio is 725 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: a studio, and his other closet one is a shoe 726 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: store and one is a studio. So I actually moved 727 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: my studio to my shoe closet because it's more inspiration 728 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: in there. I'm seriously tell us about the rap aspiring 729 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: rap career, so it's not really like a rap career 730 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: that I'm looking for. Like I kind of just made 731 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: the music because I feel like making music, you know 732 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, I just I don't like I hear. 733 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: I hear some some things, or I go through some things, 734 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: and I just write it down. Like if if I 735 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: got an issue I'm going through in life, I write 736 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: it down. If I've seen something in life, I write 737 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: it down. If I heard a story, I just really 738 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: really messed me, Like I write it down like me 739 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: like I was never I was never like doing no 740 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: craziness back home, you know what I'm saying. Like I 741 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: was never I was never doing un crazy you know 742 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But for some reason, like I was 743 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: just always around that you feel me, like so just 744 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: just being around and being you know what I'm saying, 745 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: or like like just hearing like what's going on and 746 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: stuff like that and like seeing what's going on. Like 747 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: I'd be like day, like, let me write it down, 748 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I just write it down 749 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: and if it flow and flow. If it don't, it 750 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: don't like it. It's it's from It's for me though, 751 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I haven't got to 752 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: the point where I'm ready to put it out for 753 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: everybody to listen to and thething like that. But I'm 754 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: just at a point right now. I know when I 755 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: write it down, I could be like, oh it's hard, 756 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: and I'll send it to like five or six people. 757 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: That's hard. You're like, yeah, stuff, I'm like, all right, cool, 758 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: but I haven't done some song before, Like yeah, you 759 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: could have did bet on that And I'm like damn 760 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: one kind of hurt. Wow, but not but that's but 761 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: that's that's the people I send it too. I want 762 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: you to be totally lett me know how you think 763 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: about what you think about it, because if it's trash, 764 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: I'm a dash it. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, 765 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: but if it means something to me, you're gonna feel 766 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: it in the song. You know what I'm saying, Like 767 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: I could tell you really you know what I'm saying, 768 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: like you really felt that one? So well, listen, this 769 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: interview has been incredible. The thing that I've appreciated about 770 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: the interview and then we'll let JJ go home. It's 771 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: just been impressive to me. And I've never realized this. 772 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: You've really whatever you do you commit to would you agree, 773 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: no doubt it's it was a commitment. At an early age. 774 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: You were being slept down in football, so you got 775 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: your mind right, right. You get to college and you're like, 776 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: you know what, it's my time, I'm about to eat. 777 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: If you come time, let me wear a number twenty seven, 778 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: let me I mean that's a joke. But then he comes. 779 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: How then you come to the Chargers. You you it's 780 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: a learning process here. First year, you lose weight, you 781 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: come back, you dominate the shoes. You've committed yourself to 782 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: excellence with the shoes, and you have a legitimate appreciation 783 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: the music. Same thing. You have a legitimate appreciation for it. 784 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 1: I'm super excited that we got to interview. I appreciate 785 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: your time. Hey, I appreciate you. Let me be on 786 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: the show man. I'd like to come back. You know 787 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: it's bad. Let me bro because wow, he's been he's 788 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: been out of pocket all day. We've got a lot 789 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: of teammates that want to get on here. We've got 790 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people outside the podcast listen then to 791 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: get your back on. He's letting me. Just let me 792 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: schedule because you know me and two Kay got it date, 793 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: I got hand away, all right, All all right, thank 794 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: you j J. I appreciate your brother. Sure, all right, guys, 795 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us on the Backstage Chargers 796 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 1: Podcast presented by your Southern California Toyota dealers. Remember be 797 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: sure to download and subscribe to the Chargers Podcast Network. 798 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: We are now on Spotify and SoundCloud, so basically, wherever 799 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts, the Chargers Podcast Network is there. 800 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening, and until next time, I'm 801 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 1: Chris Harry