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Speaker 2: It is a lost Monday right here from the start.
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Speaker 3: When we've got Trey Moore here.
Speaker 5: It's me.
Speaker 6: I'm buckling them though I'm trying. I'm just trying to
Speaker 6: buckle up.
Speaker 3: Hey man, no need to buckle up that a flight
Speaker 3: is open.
Speaker 2: No, Rico, let everybody off the flight, now, Rico, let
Speaker 2: everybody off that flight.
Speaker 6: You talking about somebody still nervous, Like you know how
Speaker 6: you see somebody get be so bad where you're just
Speaker 6: like ooh, like so I grew up one or twelve kids,
Speaker 6: so you know when one person got a whoop up,
Speaker 6: like everybody knew in the house to go sit down
Speaker 6: and lay load for a little bit.
Speaker 5: That's what Rico came in here did.
Speaker 7: Hey, bro like watching that yesterday. It was one of
Speaker 7: those type of things, And I watched it this morning
Speaker 7: again and I'm just I'm like he told y'all, he
Speaker 7: talked noise to y'all, and then there was no resolve
Speaker 7: in getting the job done.
Speaker 4: Nothing nothing.
Speaker 6: You didn't see no fight like you just you think
Speaker 6: of that old guy that say, hey, son, I'm about
Speaker 6: to go ahead. It's gonna hurt me, roll up the sleeve.
Speaker 6: And you washed him. Whooped you like you said. I
Speaker 6: watched it last night. I went back and watch it
Speaker 6: this morning because I'm looking at these stats. I'm like, man,
Speaker 6: he had a career high the week before and told y'all,
Speaker 6: I'm coming to do this, had a career high and
Speaker 6: rushing attempt thirty the most ever.
Speaker 5: So his team believed them.
Speaker 6: They said, Hey, we going to back you in this
Speaker 6: buffet up coming thirty rushes. You talking about two hundred
Speaker 6: and thirty nine. That's the all time high that he said, Hey,
Speaker 6: I'm coming out here, having a record breaking day, record
Speaker 6: targets and record receiving yard age.
Speaker 2: Stilla said it from the top here. Cowboys lose to
Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers in Charlotte thirty to twenty seven. Their
Speaker 2: former teammate rico'doddell, who rushed two hundred yards against Miami,
Speaker 2: said after the game they know to buckle up. Then
Speaker 2: during the week, when asked about it again, he said,
Speaker 2: I will stand by what I said. They know buckle up.
Speaker 2: Brian Schottenheimer, the Cowboys head coach, said they'll be buckled up.
Speaker 2: I asked Kenny Clark, asked, ol so diggin do it?
Speaker 2: Asked Sam Williams. These guys said they was ready to go.
Speaker 2: Kenny said, hey, man, he hain't faced us yet. Well, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it wasn't good. So Rico Daddle ended up with two
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty nine total yards. That is a Carolina
Speaker 2: Panthers franchise record. Franchise been around since nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 2: He had thirty carries for one hundred and eighty three yards.
Speaker 2: And I was there at the game last night. I
Speaker 2: was trying to understand why are they throwing it? What
Speaker 2: are you doing that for? It was like a third
Speaker 2: and four they threw it. Why why would you do that?
Speaker 2: Rico averaged six.
Speaker 3: Point one yards of carry, doing whatever you want to,
Speaker 3: doing whatever you want as a team. Okay, go look
Speaker 3: at the number. Okay what they did to them as
Speaker 3: a team.
Speaker 2: Carolina ran thirty eight times two hundred sixteen yards five
Speaker 2: point seven yards and a carry. Etn had three carries
Speaker 2: seventeen yards after five point seven. I mean, dude, they
Speaker 2: were doing whatever they wanted. This was embarrassing. Yeah, clearly embarrassing,
Speaker 2: very embarrassing.
Speaker 7: But like the whole thing, you know, like I he
Speaker 7: being in this organization playing with some of these dudes
Speaker 7: that's still in the same team that he was here with.
Speaker 7: He knew whose heart was pumping blood and who was
Speaker 7: pumping kool aid and stood on it. And then at
Speaker 7: the same time with the guys who were not part
Speaker 7: of the organization last year, the free previous years when
Speaker 7: he was here. You know, it doesn't matter at that point.
Speaker 7: It's just about being a man and saying to yourself, like,
Speaker 7: can't lets you talk to me like this or talk
Speaker 7: about us like this? You know, and and the whole thing,
Speaker 7: Like I always say, defense is a game, and it's
Speaker 7: one dude with the ball. I remember just asking my
Speaker 7: dad when I was a kid, because I got tired
Speaker 7: of playing running back, like.
Speaker 4: Man, how do you do this?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 7: Like every place somebody hitting you like and that's when
Speaker 7: I realized, like, I'd rather be part of the gang
Speaker 7: than the dude just getting victimized out there.
Speaker 3: Hand out the licks come on, man, you know.
Speaker 7: And so as a motivation factor and we always talk
Speaker 7: about it and everything else like that, it was just
Speaker 7: no show.
Speaker 4: And it's so deflating and so disappointing to see that.
Speaker 2: The first play nine yards right, So he came out
Speaker 2: to so I thought, oh, maybe maybe maybe kept ongoing. Man,
Speaker 2: It's just this was this was Muhammad Ali call and
Speaker 2: shot with Brown.
Speaker 3: He was gonna knock you out in and then he
Speaker 3: went and he did it. And afterwards, you know, guys
Speaker 3: said props to Rico.
Speaker 5: He did it.
Speaker 2: Props Oh yeah, yan ye, Kenny Clark, that props you got?
Speaker 6: You got you what you're gonna say, Oh man, you
Speaker 6: fucked up? Yeah you don't shut out? It is time
Speaker 6: to shut up. But it's like, what can you say,
Speaker 6: like give me first of all, those those guys have
Speaker 6: to speak that they're the big name guys.
Speaker 5: You're gonna get asked about it. I respect, I respect.
Speaker 6: My dogs at he said, I'm not the big name,
Speaker 6: y'all not gonna ask me for the sound bike. He
Speaker 6: had to he was on the Panthers, you know, all
Speaker 6: this and that how to feel to come back here.
Speaker 6: Like I said, I'm not gonna give nobody the props like.
Speaker 5: That, especially on air. But what can you say when
Speaker 5: somebody did it to you, man? You let him do it, Like.
Speaker 6: I don't know, you talk about boxing, and they loved
Speaker 6: them to sleep because the way that I've seen, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 6: nine yards, that's big, but you know three three, you know,
Speaker 6: we're still keeping them crowd and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, they can do it.
Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden, that levy door just
Speaker 6: started open where it was like he was lowing you.
Speaker 6: He couldn't take no more. It's just, oh, man, the
Speaker 6: guard was down to where you've seen by I don't
Speaker 6: know if they were defeated or tired, but by the
Speaker 6: end of that first quarter you started seeing three yards
Speaker 6: and three hard yards go to five or six yards
Speaker 6: each carrier he was he was running at least four
Speaker 6: yards before he got touched. And then it's just he
Speaker 6: just got up and he just kept going.
Speaker 2: It was like I said, he started off with a
Speaker 2: nine yard carry and he just kept on getting chunk
Speaker 2: yards and chunk yards, and so they weren't doing anything
Speaker 2: and when stopped.
Speaker 5: It was straight vanilla. Yeah.
Speaker 6: It wasn't like you had exotic runs or you know,
Speaker 6: double reverses or you know.
Speaker 5: Play action passed.
Speaker 6: It was went straight right here, like we're running straight
Speaker 6: down in you. The most exotic thing that I seen
Speaker 6: was a backguard pool trap where you're basically saying, hey,
Speaker 6: five officers linement. Instead of us charging towards you, you
Speaker 6: have your center that goes right here and you have
Speaker 6: a guard. It's a quick trap on that tackle. They
Speaker 6: did that maybe once or twice, but it was straight
Speaker 6: what they say back in the day downhill football.
Speaker 2: So what I did not understand come second half watching
Speaker 2: the football game there, Charlotte, where's an adjustment?
Speaker 8: Me?
Speaker 2: Hey man, we're getting killed. He's running. He's running on
Speaker 2: you all day. You're not stopping him. Do you put
Speaker 2: extra defensive lineman out there?
Speaker 3: Do something? I mean, what do you do?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 6: Maybe maybe I was wrong, correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 6: But I didn't see an adjustment. But what I did
Speaker 6: start to notice in the second half because I was
Speaker 6: trying to go back and like, look at some of
Speaker 6: these numbers that finally started coming downhill. You had Donovan
Speaker 6: Wilson going down there getting the TfL like you've seen.
Speaker 6: I believe it's thirty five coming off the edge. Like
Speaker 6: so I don't know if he was calling safety blitzers
Speaker 6: and stuff like that, but even with still calling those blitzers,
Speaker 6: you were still getting increased. So it was like you
Speaker 6: didn't how many adjustments can we make? Like don't get
Speaker 6: me wrong, I'm not taking up for evil flus and
Speaker 6: this and that, but as a player, when you say, man,
Speaker 6: I gotta go put some bricks.
Speaker 5: In my pocket.
Speaker 2: So this question, Lorie, we saw when they were bringing
Speaker 2: an extra cat, was bringing an extra offensive line. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's bring an extra offensive lineman. I mean, so can
Speaker 2: you not now mask? What can you not do that
Speaker 2: defensively and that scheme? Hey man, listen, we're running the
Speaker 2: four man front. The four man front not work. Can
Speaker 2: we go make it five? Can we do.
Speaker 5: Something if you if you make it five?
Speaker 6: Now you're telling those dbs that's been getting bombed over
Speaker 6: backdack to get you've seen what happened.
Speaker 5: What was the Panthers first touchdown that young bull over there.
Speaker 2: So so I'm looking at a drive on a ten
Speaker 2: play drive, Rico touched the ball ten times, I mean
Speaker 2: six of the ten, oh yeah, and then the six minutes,
Speaker 2: so you think about this. I mean, I can't tell
Speaker 2: you the last time I watched this in person. They
Speaker 2: got the ball with six so seven to go on
Speaker 2: offense and they never.
Speaker 3: Gave it back.
Speaker 4: Listen, man, and you seen that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, no, no, no, to end the game.
Speaker 6: I've seen it very few times, and it's like, once
Speaker 6: you start getting six minutes is crazy.
Speaker 5: Minutes crazy.
Speaker 6: I've seen some three some four minutes where you like, yo,
Speaker 6: this felt like forever in the day. But to go
Speaker 6: six minutes, like they're telling you, they just let them dry,
Speaker 6: ain't no fluff nothing, and we're looking.
Speaker 4: At I'm looking at it here.
Speaker 7: Bryce Young only had with one hundred and ninety nine
Speaker 7: yards passing first time they gave up less than two, right, yep? Okay,
Speaker 7: But did they actually give up less than two or
Speaker 7: was it just no reason? It wasn't even that. That's
Speaker 7: what That's what I'm saying. If I'm Rico one, thank
Speaker 7: you Panthers. My organization believed in me. They brought me
Speaker 7: here through free agency. But only not only that, they
Speaker 7: made sure I was right on buckling up, like, hey,
Speaker 7: you are chipping away. We know some people pulled the
Speaker 7: dogs off you. It was a tight game, but they said.
Speaker 6: Hey, if we gonna win this game, we're gonna win
Speaker 6: it on your back, Rico, And he went out there
Speaker 6: and did.
Speaker 2: But this is the strategy for anybody facing the Cowboys,
Speaker 2: I mean, Washington coming here to go run above the Jets.
Speaker 2: Last week, you know, the Cowboys dominated one Hall still
Speaker 2: went off.
Speaker 3: They can't stop you from running the ball.
Speaker 4: They can't stop you from running or passing.
Speaker 5: About to say this is.
Speaker 2: True, but if the run portion of it of what
Speaker 2: they did mean thirty eight rush attempts to twenty five
Speaker 2: pass attempts. And you know, I'm gonna tell you right now,
Speaker 2: that was twenty five too many. I was about it
Speaker 2: was at fifteen too many. I mean literally, there were
Speaker 2: time talking why are you throwing? Why are you throwing?
Speaker 3: It's third and for what?
Speaker 5: Why?
Speaker 3: The first dude, they were not in third down very
Speaker 3: much either at all.
Speaker 2: They were not at third down very often every time
Speaker 2: you looked, because they were gashing them.
Speaker 3: Man, they were gashing me. Look right here the stat.
Speaker 2: Man or third down. Uh, they had eight third downs
Speaker 2: in the game. They don't had eight, No, yeah, eight,
Speaker 2: they had eight third downs. And and they they just
Speaker 2: kept on kept on, kept on going, and it was
Speaker 2: it was more this this defense is as bad as
Speaker 2: it was when Mike Nolan was a defensive coordinator for
Speaker 2: one year, when Mike McCarthy was head coach, and they
Speaker 2: got him out of here quickly. Brian Schottenheimer went to
Speaker 2: the podium the head coach and said he back to
Speaker 2: eber Flues, I get it, that's what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 2: But you talk to guys in the room without a
Speaker 2: camera around, and you're hearing people say, nah, man, this
Speaker 2: isn't working, and you keep hearing it, well, we need
Speaker 2: to fix this and fix that. Well, nothing's getting fixed.
Speaker 2: We just need to make corrections. Well, you know, corrections
Speaker 2: haven't been made. And some of the guys in the
Speaker 2: room or some of these same guys who are out
Speaker 2: here competing and playing with the other coaches who've been here.
Speaker 2: So somewhere along the way, I got to start to
Speaker 2: ask the question, when do we look at the defensive
Speaker 2: coordinator to say what do you even make some change on?
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this question.
Speaker 7: Okay, you're always talking about you've been on multiple teams.
Speaker 7: How many schemes have you had? I don't even answer that.
Speaker 7: Everywhere that you went did you have to figure out
Speaker 7: how to play? Did you figure out how to play?
Speaker 5: If you want to be if you want to be
Speaker 5: in a you do? You do all right?
Speaker 7: And so I don't care if they don't believe in
Speaker 7: the system, play it.
Speaker 3: Prove it wrong or they proven it wrong every week.
Speaker 4: No, they if they ain't buying in, they ain't. They
Speaker 4: ain't committed to it.
Speaker 6: You're proven it wrong that way. That's I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 6: Like this, it's only a few of y'all gonna be here.
Speaker 2: I mean, for all that I was told during the
Speaker 2: week in the locker room about adjustments, fixing this sk
Speaker 2: you just went out here and it got handed to
Speaker 2: This is the Panthers.
Speaker 4: Dudes are not winning there one on one back.
Speaker 3: This is the Panthers. Panthers man, And that's what it
Speaker 3: looked like.
Speaker 5: One on one battle.
Speaker 6: People went out there and said, Hey, I'm gonna be
Speaker 6: better than you one on one. But not only that,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna make sure that I'll play the person that's
Speaker 6: over there, the other guy that's doing over there, Like
Speaker 6: you got Tommy Tremble out here, like, hey, that was
Speaker 6: my dog. He was there when I played there the Panthers,
Speaker 6: So I'm like, okay, Tommy t out there hurting people.
Speaker 5: You have people like they were having fun.
Speaker 6: Like, don't get me wrong, y'all seen the way that
Speaker 6: George Picking was out there, balling, jumping over people and
Speaker 6: just like, oh, let me do this and do that,
Speaker 6: like it was it was poetry in motion. Well, the
Speaker 6: way he was playing was the way that that whole team.
Speaker 6: You have Rico over here trying to hurdle people in
Speaker 6: and walking out of here, just stiff arming people.
Speaker 5: You had Tommy Trumble doing that.
Speaker 6: You had the old lineman like really getting our d linemen,
Speaker 6: turning them sideways.
Speaker 3: Gave them coff Rico recovery.
Speaker 6: Everybody bucked up to yeah, yeah, let me get a
Speaker 6: piece hold on.
Speaker 3: I mean, man, it was. It was embarrassing.
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Speaker 6: I love that though. They do take care. But anyways,
Speaker 6: the Commanders, they make it. They're making me nervous. Man
Speaker 6: running backs, they got over there.
Speaker 2: Well, every every teacher makes you nervous if you know. No,
Speaker 2: I mean, look, man, this is I'm not no offense
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Speaker 3: Great game, great two weeks.
Speaker 2: We're talking about Jim Brown or said Smith, Peyton, ricoc
Speaker 2: Dow A dude, they just said, you know, dude, they practice.
Speaker 3: It's not like they ain't.
Speaker 5: Seen it exactly.
Speaker 3: You guys have hit this dude.
Speaker 2: You practice against the sky.
Speaker 3: I really kept cutting this guy.
Speaker 4: No, he practiced against them, and.
Speaker 2: And sure enough, man here he just beats you. Told
Speaker 2: you he was coming, told you to buckle up, then
Speaker 2: he beat you down. So yes, who however else they
Speaker 2: faced him, It's gonna be real simple. Run the football
Speaker 2: all day long against these guys.
Speaker 6: If I'm Washington running back, I'm telling you right now, Oh, coach,
Speaker 6: they ain't even seen me yet. They ain't seen me
Speaker 6: hit my potential like you you know, as players, like
Speaker 6: how many times we sat there and said, oh, that
Speaker 6: person was able to do that? Like what did you
Speaker 6: wa say when before the week coming up he was like, Oh,
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Speaker 2: allowing two hundred and sixteen yards of rushing and they
Speaker 2: lost to the Panthers in one hundred and eighty three
Speaker 2: of that to their former teammate Rico Dallalog thirty carries,
Speaker 2: you have for six point one yards. The flip side
Speaker 2: of it, the Cowboys could not run the football to
Speaker 2: save their lives. I'm sitting there watching the Panthers d
Speaker 2: line push them back. It was not good a couple
Speaker 2: times and he starts to do get walked back one
Speaker 2: point six yards. An average tote for the Cowboys are
Speaker 2: nineteen carries. Yes, it was terrible, Okay, it was terrible.
Speaker 2: Javonte Williams comes home. It's a North Carolina guy. Thirteen carries,
Speaker 2: twenty nine yards two point two yard average. No touchdowns,
Speaker 2: no touchdown, no none. I mean, this was a bad effort.
Speaker 2: And there were times where Dak Prescott didn't have enough
Speaker 2: time to get where he needed to because the pressure
Speaker 2: was there. So while we praised the offensive line for
Speaker 2: doing what they did the week before, I wasn't here Friday,
Speaker 2: so I don't know who you guys had picked as
Speaker 2: the yetty cool customers. But the offensive line was not good.
Speaker 4: None at all.
Speaker 2: And where eighty you're at the point time now your
Speaker 2: defense is so bad, your offensive line has to be
Speaker 2: good because the offense basically has to score darn near
Speaker 2: every time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I mean we knew that going into it,
Speaker 7: that the offenses basically had to put up with thirty
Speaker 7: points a game at this point from the beginning of
Speaker 7: the season. And you know, the whole thing with the
Speaker 7: offensive line was no matter who they plugged in, they
Speaker 7: have been playing well, well, I mean, it wouldn't matter
Speaker 7: if it was the starter's you know. And I say
Speaker 7: that to say this, like, at some point throughout the season,
Speaker 7: everybody's gonna have their ebbs and flows. Unfortunately, it caught
Speaker 7: up with the offensive line this week, you know, and
Speaker 7: going up against what we considered to be a lesser
Speaker 7: opponent on top of that as well. So that being said,
Speaker 7: you know, there's really not a whole lot of excuses
Speaker 7: to give outside the simple fact that they just got beat.
Speaker 4: And when we talk about getting.
Speaker 7: Beat, we mean that they got beat on every level
Speaker 7: offense side, defensive side, and everything else like that.
Speaker 5: How many sacks did they the Panthers have this week?
Speaker 3: Zero that was not sacked.
Speaker 2: But look, there was only one sack in the whole game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there was only one sack of one turnover the whole game.
Speaker 2: And this is this was a winnable foot despite the
Speaker 2: terrible defensive performance and the bad offensive line play. It
Speaker 2: was a winnable football game. But it came down to
Speaker 2: two things to me. In the fourth quarter. One, when
Speaker 2: the Cowboys had to they got to the eight, couldn't
Speaker 2: punch it in and had to kick the field goal.
Speaker 3: So now it's twenty.
Speaker 2: Seven up, and then Carolina gets the ball with six
Speaker 2: oh seven and go and they never give it back.
Speaker 5: Man, they played bully football.
Speaker 6: What what was the time mark where the fumble snap
Speaker 6: happened with uh with Deck and them and he recovered it.
Speaker 2: That was that was on that final drive when they
Speaker 2: saying they ended up getting it down in the eight.
Speaker 6: But but then that was a missopportunity.
Speaker 2: Like there was a lot of mis opportunity. I mean,
Speaker 2: we saw we saw a penalty on Tyler Smith inside
Speaker 2: the red zone and that we're.
Speaker 3: Just looking at it.
Speaker 2: But this, this is this is what losing teams do.
Speaker 2: You guys know that losing teams find ways to look lose.
Speaker 6: And that's what I was gonna get to. Yes, it
Speaker 6: was a bad performance by the old line, but how
Speaker 6: long were we expecting them to play lights out like
Speaker 6: we've been talking about, like you said, the plug in
Speaker 6: players and doing that, Like this was the week that
Speaker 6: it finally just came in fruition where you just started
Speaker 6: to see people be exposed. But the Carolina defense, I
Speaker 6: felt like Rico galvanized them too, like hey, we're putting
Speaker 6: on this on ourselves to like, hey, we just got
Speaker 6: to make sure it's a steale. May don't nothing get
Speaker 6: right here, and then the walls is gonna play. But
Speaker 6: but you face better defenses, You face way better defense
Speaker 6: to play way better.
Speaker 2: But between Green Bay the Jets, d those defenses are
Speaker 2: ranked higher and better these guys is and.
Speaker 4: This is just.
Speaker 3: It was just hand to hand combat and they got
Speaker 3: beat down.
Speaker 4: And one one thing about it.
Speaker 7: You know when you're plugging dudes in a lot of
Speaker 7: times and guys don't have a chance to really scout
Speaker 7: them per se that week. Oh this dude hasn't played.
Speaker 7: He got injured. So now we're plugging this dude and
Speaker 7: they haven't had a chance. Well, now everybody had a
Speaker 7: chance to look at all the offensive linemen to the
Speaker 7: tape is there. The tape is out there, you know
Speaker 7: what I mean. So now it's a totally different ball game.
Speaker 7: Ain't nobody stepping out there on you know, like we
Speaker 7: haven't seen you. Like now people are watching this tape
Speaker 7: and like ric o' dados said, hey, strapping up, buckle up, whatever,
Speaker 7: and they breaking dudes down before they get here. But
Speaker 7: I'm gonna keep saying this, like and you you both
Speaker 7: hit the nail on the head. He inspired them dudes,
Speaker 7: all right, He inspired them boys to play play harder
Speaker 7: than they had And and I keep leaning on a
Speaker 7: simple fact that he was in this building for so
Speaker 7: long and has intel on these players. And no, that's
Speaker 7: what I like. I have no place else to go
Speaker 7: with it. Man, he knows they knew. That's what I
Speaker 7: was about to say.
Speaker 3: They knew him, and he was here, and he broke
Speaker 3: their will.
Speaker 5: That's that's exactly what it is. You broke they will.
Speaker 6: And as a football player, you've been there ab where
Speaker 6: it's like it don't matter how good were doing and
Speaker 6: this and that, and we're playing lights out when we
Speaker 6: know that we can't stop a nosebleed. On the other side,
Speaker 6: whether there's been which I've seen it, I've been on
Speaker 6: defenses where we couldn't stop a those bleed. And I've
Speaker 6: also been on really good defenses where we knew our
Speaker 6: offense won't go score. And it's just like I'm tired.
Speaker 6: Man Dak is out here doing everything. He's flung, always
Speaker 6: out here doing everything. Ferguson El Boogie gotta taste stuff.
Speaker 6: It's like eventually the levee can only it's only so
Speaker 6: many past jobs you could do before the water just
Speaker 6: starts seeing, you know, like and they let it go
Speaker 6: like there was no fight at the end of the game.
Speaker 5: I didn't see people getting up aggressive.
Speaker 7: Running the ball on the defense is the most demoralizing
Speaker 7: thing that can be done to a defense repeatedly, because
Speaker 7: that's just literally getting your butt whooped. Okay, there's, like
Speaker 7: you said, just nothing you could do about it. And
Speaker 7: so at that physical way of basically like punkin dudes
Speaker 7: more so than anything, however you want to look at it,
Speaker 7: that's what it boils down to. And I do know
Speaker 7: what you're talking about because I played in the game
Speaker 7: where Corey Dillon set the rookie restian record against us,
Speaker 7: all right, and I mean it was just like they
Speaker 7: was in what twelve personnel the whole game, basically just
Speaker 7: running down your throat and it was nothing. And to
Speaker 7: be a part of that defense and then looking into
Speaker 7: people's eyes in the huddle and like just see dudes like.
Speaker 2: So let me let me go, just just go through
Speaker 2: the whole. This is what happened with six oh seven ago. Okay,
Speaker 2: So the Cowboys went three and out, all right, So
Speaker 2: the Cowboys went three. I got the ball with tremendous
Speaker 2: field position. Remember they're on forty six, started going backwards. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: when from first and ten to second and fifteen and
Speaker 2: third and twenty two, it had to pun on fourth
Speaker 2: and eighteen, So terrible, terrible drive right there. So six
Speaker 2: seven the Panthers to get the ball back. At their
Speaker 2: fourteen first play, Rico daddle three yards, second and seven
Speaker 2: incomplete pass from Bryce Young, third and seven incomplete pass
Speaker 2: from Bryce Young.
Speaker 3: Penalty eatam pass interference.
Speaker 5: Kept bringing them back to life eight.
Speaker 2: So now it was first and ten the Carolina twenty nine.
Speaker 2: Rico daddle seven yards second and three. They go up
Speaker 2: the short pass up the middle of the horn for
Speaker 2: two yards, third and one. Uh tremble first down sixteen yards,
Speaker 2: then first and ten at the forty six four minutes
Speaker 2: to go, Rico daddle up the middle four yards second
Speaker 2: and six to forty two. Rico daddle left guard two yards,
Speaker 2: third and four. Bryce Young incomplete to Ted McMillan. Fourth
Speaker 2: and four. Bryce Young hits renfro seven yards first down.
Speaker 2: Now we eat the two minute one first and ten
Speaker 2: Dallas thirty three. Rico daddle right in nine yards second
Speaker 2: and one from the twenty four, eighteen and up in
Speaker 2: the middle for one yard first down, first and ten,
Speaker 2: eighteen and up in the middle eleven yards first and ten,
Speaker 2: Bryce Young Nils, then Bryce Young Niels again, roll out
Speaker 2: there for Sis Fitzgerald.
Speaker 3: Kick kick it, game over.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 3: That's it man, with no triggeration in the round.
Speaker 2: It's pretty simple, right, we go run the ball, make
Speaker 2: a couple of passes, Slamt passes on the.
Speaker 3: Third and four.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a fourth Slamt pass out there at
Speaker 2: the Renfro the former Clemtson Tiger, doesn't we.
Speaker 3: Had and it's and it's it's, it's it's pathetic.
Speaker 2: Honestly, just when you think about this is because this
Speaker 2: was a winnable game.
Speaker 3: So now you start to look.
Speaker 2: At this season, you're two three and one ad.
Speaker 4: You gotta get ten wins for church.
Speaker 8: Church.
Speaker 2: Ain't getting no churches. Book my reservation downtown to beat.
Speaker 2: So the Philly game, you're right there, ball got the
Speaker 2: opportunity with the football to go down the field, ceedee
Speaker 2: lamb dropping passes left and right. Lose that game, packer game. Okay,
Speaker 2: you ain't over time, can't score, can't get can't score
Speaker 2: that go around. It can't can't get it done. That's
Speaker 2: a lost game right there. You had to go to
Speaker 2: overtime because the Giants beat up the Jets, and then
Speaker 2: you got this game right here, winnable game. You can't
Speaker 2: get it done, you cannot close the show. This is
Speaker 2: how bad teams get beat man. This is how bad
Speaker 2: teams end up with top ten draft picks because this
Speaker 2: is not good guys.
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 6: But even with that being said, it's that close, Like
Speaker 6: all these games have been winnable.
Speaker 5: It's the league.
Speaker 2: The league is a lot of closers. But the good
Speaker 2: teams find ways to win. The bad teams find ways
Speaker 2: to lose.
Speaker 7: And right now, every so the Eagles ain't looking like
Speaker 7: the Eagles, Okay, and and and unfortunately, just like he said,
Speaker 7: good teams find ways to win, they don't find ways
Speaker 7: to lose.
Speaker 4: And whatever is going on here? Like so my thing
Speaker 4: is this all?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 4: Is it on the defense? Is it on is it
Speaker 4: on the coordinator?
Speaker 7: And and and and and like at what place and
Speaker 7: at what time is there going to be a change made?
Speaker 7: Not saying to fire anybody or anything, but if it's
Speaker 7: not going to be that schematically, what's going to happen
Speaker 7: because at this point right now, like what's going to
Speaker 7: stop anybody from coming in here, first of all, running
Speaker 7: the ball all games and then just taking explosive plays
Speaker 7: whenever they want to. There is nothing about this defense
Speaker 7: right now that is saying that even if Dak continues
Speaker 7: to put up thirty one points a game or whatever
Speaker 7: he has to do the game, that this can take
Speaker 7: you into a playoff situation or it can be sustainable anymore.
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Speaker 5: Thank you boy, Yes, got it, got it. I made
Speaker 5: adjustments and like the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Said, like you said at the AT and T Stadium
Speaker 2: right there, the gotta slow it down, get it done.
Speaker 2: Young Aggy get it done. Remember when your team used
Speaker 2: to play at a T and T stadium. Stop playing
Speaker 2: the game. Then it's Arkansas right now. They don't want
Speaker 2: to want that. J Tier was coming down here getting
Speaker 2: pulling the rico down. What you talking about?
Speaker 6: We all hey, hey, speaking of that, you know we
Speaker 6: did still undefeated.
Speaker 5: Five We finally we finally number four?
Speaker 2: Would you guys money can pay for Would you.
Speaker 6: Beat Florida Gators that just beat Texas DJ DJ Langley? Yeah,
Speaker 6: we have some friar gate over there. Come down there
Speaker 6: to the to the ball. Everybody know they're firing their coach, right.
Speaker 5: That's why.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're right. We threw his retirement party. Hey what
Speaker 6: they say we sponsored that. All you could do is
Speaker 6: knock down the one that they line up. I'm looking
Speaker 6: forward to this L s U game. That's where it's
Speaker 6: gonna be at night time in the Death Valley. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 6: good good luck to you down there. Death Valley still
Speaker 6: got Texas. I'm not I'm not worried about that.
Speaker 3: Okay, Oklahoma said that too.
Speaker 5: That's fine. Really, that's true. They left with the L.
Speaker 3: But come on, look, you know your boys are good for.
Speaker 5: We definitely are We definitely are and we definitely are,
Speaker 5: so that's why.
Speaker 2: But good for dropping one. You're like really be so
Speaker 2: you know, you know AGGI tradition.
Speaker 5: Now I hope it is.
Speaker 6: And that's why I said, I think we're gonna learn
Speaker 6: from because last year that one that we dropped with
Speaker 6: South Carolina and we got them on the schedule, so
Speaker 6: it's like we're gonna get.
Speaker 5: Our get back with them. Just don't drop the U.
Speaker 2: T Anthony Door said, congrats, congrats on your Panthers.
Speaker 3: Game against Florida State.
Speaker 7: True freshman quarterback, true freshman quarterback. Nice two wins in
Speaker 7: a row, two weeks in a row. He's playing, he's
Speaker 7: playing really well.
Speaker 6: I think you think it's gonna be that guy than
Speaker 6: like just the freshman luck.
Speaker 8: Nah.
Speaker 7: I really think that from watching this dude and seeing
Speaker 7: some of the stuff that he's doing.
Speaker 5: He's he's a.
Speaker 7: Young quarterback, but polish wise as far as technique, footwork,
Speaker 7: learning how to get his shoulders squared up and everything
Speaker 7: else like that. He's doing all the small things in
Speaker 7: the game to make big things happen.
Speaker 3: Well, good on him. By the way, we got a
Speaker 3: firing in the National Football League.
Speaker 2: Brian Callahan has been let go fired by Tennessee off
Speaker 2: the way one and four start. He was four and
Speaker 2: nineteen in two years, wow, not even the full two years.
Speaker 2: There's two things that come to my mind. You guys,
Speaker 2: tell me what you think. Either one, this is a
Speaker 2: bad organization, okay, because if you're fired a guy less
Speaker 2: than two years in a tenure, what are you doing hiring? Oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, the guy that did fire to give
Speaker 2: him a job named Mike Vrabel, doing good job, doing
Speaker 2: real good. So either that or the young man wasn't
Speaker 2: ready to be a head coach and shouldn't have had
Speaker 2: the job. And you know Dad's former longtime coach, Bill
Speaker 2: who was here, fantastic offensive, blind coach.
Speaker 3: But I when he got the job, I did wonder
Speaker 3: what did Brian Callahan.
Speaker 2: Do that says he should be a head coach?
Speaker 3: I did wonder about that.
Speaker 5: Besides the last thing.
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know, I don't know what he
Speaker 6: I don't know what he's done, but he's seen something
Speaker 6: made something made them believe. I will say, from my opinion,
Speaker 6: just looking at being around the league and stuff like that,
Speaker 6: I just think the organization you want to be careful
Speaker 6: with talking about these things but it's certain organizations that
Speaker 6: don't do right by either their coaches or their players.
Speaker 5: And developing things.
Speaker 6: And for whatever reason, like you said, look at what
Speaker 6: he's doing right now. Like in the organization that everybody
Speaker 6: said was gonna die after Bill, he's up there, Drake
Speaker 6: Mays playing out of his mind.
Speaker 5: He built the foundation there.
Speaker 6: That was the same guy that you had over there
Speaker 6: in the building, and now he's going to have his success.
Speaker 5: You get this guy out of here.
Speaker 6: It's like I'm asking, are y'all getting rid of your
Speaker 6: weapons to hear or are you not believing in him?
Speaker 6: Like when you hire somebody, you got to really let
Speaker 6: them do their job. And so right now, I just
Speaker 6: don't think they're doing it. They've shown it with the coaches,
Speaker 6: they've shown it with the quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: Let's talk to the man who play for the Titans.
Speaker 7: So I think this is a multitude of things, to
Speaker 7: be honest with you, I think that first and foremost
Speaker 7: that the Titans are still run like an expansion team
Speaker 7: to it to a certain extent, when you had that
Speaker 7: team move from Houston to Tennessee, a lot of the
Speaker 7: people who are actually part of the organization in Houston
Speaker 7: didn't want to make that move. So what you have
Speaker 7: is you have a bunch of people who have never
Speaker 7: even been working in the NFL before, and people working
Speaker 7: for the cheap that's actually ready to make this move.
Speaker 7: So you know, like I know, leaving one organization like
Speaker 7: plan for the Cowboys, okay, and you have all these
Speaker 7: bells and whistles to go into a place where it's
Speaker 7: basically run like the rag and muffins of the league
Speaker 7: more so than anything, if you want to say, okay,
Speaker 7: and that being so, and then with their actually being so,
Speaker 7: think about it like this.
Speaker 5: The Titans are the Oilers.
Speaker 7: They were the Oilers, okay, turning that team into the Titans,
Speaker 7: they left all that Oiler tradition behind, regardless if it
Speaker 7: was flourishing and winning or whatever it was. So you
Speaker 7: have a team that basically doesn't have any history, all right,
Speaker 7: And with that being said, like just watching it and understanding, yeah,
Speaker 7: the team is the organization, and as well, they don't
Speaker 7: do right by a lot of their former players also,
Speaker 7: So I just think that, you know, with that being said, unfortunately,
Speaker 7: there's gonna have to be a sweep in there, and
Speaker 7: you're gonna have to get some people who actually have
Speaker 7: been a part of a successful franchise to come in
Speaker 7: there and help that franchise be successful.
Speaker 2: And then you go back to this, so you fired
Speaker 2: the head coach, go back. You brought in Ryan cart On,
Speaker 2: and then you fired Ran Carthon and now you're another gentleman.
Speaker 2: So you're just going through so from general managers and
Speaker 2: head coaches, it's it's it's a lot of inconsistency here
Speaker 2: and so uh as part of why where they're at.
Speaker 6: It Ran I Ran when he was in cent Frand
Speaker 6: and the sea like him come from like John Lynch
Speaker 6: and that winning an organization. I think they give Ran
Speaker 6: enough time just like.
Speaker 7: No, they didn't because the GM that was there previous
Speaker 7: to him was a dude that actually caused a lot
Speaker 7: of issues.
Speaker 4: And that was the dude that trade a J. Brown
Speaker 4: and got him about.
Speaker 3: Sullivan came from the Patriots.
Speaker 2: But so that whole thing there too. Now apparently Ran
Speaker 2: and and and Vrabel didn't get along.
Speaker 3: So at some point in time, just what are you
Speaker 3: what kind of organisms?
Speaker 2: You are you running in an organization where the general
Speaker 2: manager is hiring the coaches and he's in charge of
Speaker 2: you gonna have a cut coach and giving the coaches
Speaker 2: kind of kind of juice, and he's what who do.
Speaker 3: You want to be? How do you want the structure
Speaker 3: to work? And that that that matters?
Speaker 2: And what structure you have is everybody getting on the
Speaker 2: same page and soil in Tennessee. I do wondering time
Speaker 2: is everybody on the same page there? Uh Ad you
Speaker 2: asked the question right before the break, is that the carpenter?
Speaker 2: Is that the carpenter's tools talking about Matt Eberflusten. What's
Speaker 2: going on here? What potentially has to happen. This is
Speaker 2: a Cowboys third straight defensive coordinator, three years, three different coordinators,
Speaker 2: and the coordinators they're running four threes, but they're not
Speaker 2: running the same four to three. And one of the
Speaker 2: issues you have as a players right now don't believe
Speaker 2: in what's going on. And it reminds me when Mike
Speaker 2: Nolan was here the first year under Mike McCarthy, those
Speaker 2: guys didn't buy in. They were terrible, one of the
Speaker 2: most historically bad defenses in Cowboys history. And this thing
Speaker 2: is heading out in the same way right now.
Speaker 7: I don't see And for me, if you've been on
Speaker 7: the team that's run a Gang of difference. If you've
Speaker 7: been part of organizations that have run a bunch of
Speaker 7: different schemes and something that's been more successful for you,
Speaker 7: then I can understand like you're saying, oh, I'm not
Speaker 7: buying into this or I've seen more, But at the
Speaker 7: same time, I don't know the situation here, and I
Speaker 7: understand that, like, Okay, what you just said, three different
Speaker 7: coordinators in three years, that's tough. That would be tough
Speaker 7: with any group of guys, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: So it doesn't matter if they're young, if they're old,
Speaker 7: whatever the case may be. And dealing with that. I'm
Speaker 7: sure there's some miscommunication with terminology from the past few years,
Speaker 7: but it goes back to what we talk about, man,
Speaker 7: be a football player.
Speaker 5: Be a football player at.
Speaker 7: The end of the day, all right, And so that
Speaker 7: means even if you're not buying into that situation or
Speaker 7: buying into that scheme, you still got to go out
Speaker 7: and ball and you can make plays. Dudes can make plays.
Speaker 7: I'm not feeling like so their handcuffed like that, man.
Speaker 4: Zone, what do you want?
Speaker 7: Get a new dude up in here, Get some more
Speaker 7: guys up in here. I mean, you're not winning your
Speaker 7: one on ones?
Speaker 2: So what are the repercussions? What are the consequences for
Speaker 2: not doing it? Nothing around here?
Speaker 6: And that's what I was going to get to. Well,
Speaker 6: I want to know what are the what ramification? What
Speaker 6: are the repercussions that are these players are being met with?
Speaker 6: Because we all know this is the Dallas Cowboys organization.
Speaker 5: Nobody not that I don't know. It ain't even about
Speaker 5: getting cut.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna just say for this, the fact that we're
Speaker 6: sitting here talking about guys don't believe in this, and
Speaker 6: that they control what gets out of this building, and
Speaker 6: they control what gets in here and when they figure
Speaker 6: out wherever it came from this and that like there
Speaker 6: is some type of ramification there's in house. Fine, we're
Speaker 6: talking about five ten thousand dollars like you're talking out
Speaker 6: like you gotta it. You everybody got a voice over here,
Speaker 6: but don't have the credit or the resume to back
Speaker 6: it up. Like people are talking about schematically? Is this schematically?
Speaker 6: Is that like you gotta play? And some of these guys,
Speaker 6: majority of the guys on the team haven't even been
Speaker 6: in the league long enough to say I played in
Speaker 6: this scheme or this worked better for me. We're talking
Speaker 6: about young guys that just came from college or guys
Speaker 6: that are been backup guys or special teamers their whole career,
Speaker 6: saying you don't trust this or you can buy in.
Speaker 6: You had three different coordinators in three years. You've had
Speaker 6: multiple guys. Yes, it's four to three and all three different.
Speaker 2: And all three guys like Zimmer last year. One of
Speaker 2: my big issues when they hired Mike Zimmers, like you
Speaker 2: brought in a dude who wins with big people up
Speaker 2: front and Kevin Williams coming around this corner for here.
Speaker 3: And then they brought the one boy out the couch.
Speaker 2: Telling the cat and they brought him out there. He
Speaker 2: give you ten plays and then need gas, I mean
Speaker 2: just and then so Zim later on made different changes
Speaker 2: along the way, but he said after the year, you know,
Speaker 2: I should have I should have tried to put in
Speaker 2: more of what I wanted up front instead of trying
Speaker 2: to know, what did you guys do last year? And
Speaker 2: how do we make this a little bit of work
Speaker 2: here and there? It's they've done it again third time,
Speaker 2: kind of like the third time something's been watered down,
Speaker 2: and clearly it's just not working. The solution isn't working.
Speaker 2: And whatever Eberflus needs to do to make something changes
Speaker 2: here that hasn't happened.
Speaker 4: So there's one thing that's here is the locker room.
Speaker 5: And you know that.
Speaker 7: I know dudes being uncomfortable and at some point in time,
Speaker 7: and I'm not I'm not vindic. I'm not saying anybody
Speaker 7: needs to be cut because I'm pro player. But you
Speaker 7: want to shock something, you want to get people to
Speaker 7: stand up and be accountable.
Speaker 5: Trade the market.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 7: That's that's that's something totally different.
Speaker 4: We're talking about right now.
Speaker 2: What they sat Mazzie down for some games and what
Speaker 2: else you want to I mean, but the activate.
Speaker 6: The Digs thing was one of those wake up calls
Speaker 6: where it was like, oh.
Speaker 5: You need to go.
Speaker 6: We don't care, we're not paying your money, not paying
Speaker 6: your money, benching you in the middle of the game.
Speaker 6: That's one of those. That's that's what he's saying with
Speaker 6: that shock value. Now it's like, okay, you benched the
Speaker 6: starter that get paid the bucks in the middle of
Speaker 6: the game.
Speaker 5: Now it's like, yo, you got to cut somebody or
Speaker 5: you gotta I gotta let people.
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna sit it on you when we
Speaker 2: go off to the table. Years on there, we're out
Speaker 2: of time. So, as Anthony Dors said, it's Montrey warn
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