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Speaker 1: And we welcome you into the best podcast available. Jason Gibbs,

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Speaker 1: Andrew Gribbled, Nathan Zigura. It's a special edition. It's not

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Speaker 1: the Thursday release. It's a Wednesday release this week because

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Speaker 1: why Nathan, Because it's a mock Draft season and Wednesday

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Speaker 1: is the first Friday. Or you got today on Wednesday, Today, Wednesday, mayday.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. All right, Jeez, you go

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Speaker 1: away for a few days. We're not together all he lay.

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Speaker 1: It was a nice set up, but I know I

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Speaker 1: didn't even know it's coming. You know. Typically, you know,

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Speaker 1: pre production meeting, you say hey, I'm gonna tee you

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Speaker 1: up for you got a day Wednesday, baby, and then

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Speaker 1: it looks great. Yeah, we're not teeing anybody up. This

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Speaker 1: is a free for all. We're figuring this. Completely lost

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Speaker 1: on this one too. It's big Lebowski. That's Lebowski. Yes, indeed,

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Speaker 1: fantastic little flick. All right. The reason why we're coming

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Speaker 1: to you on Wednesday, Mock Draft two point oh, involving

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Speaker 1: the three of us. Gribble, being the staunch editor that

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Speaker 1: oh tomorrow. We did it, and we knocked it out

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday. This is for Wednesday, so we're banking on

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Speaker 1: nothing changing. Hopefully nothing will, but we wanted to go

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Speaker 1: through the top ten all the way up to the

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Speaker 1: forty one for the rest of the mock draft, which

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Speaker 1: is eleven through thirty two, and what we think may

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Speaker 1: or may not happen. As of March two thousand and twenty,

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Speaker 1: that will be out during the day on Wednesday. Guys,

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Speaker 1: let's get right down to it. Pick number one for

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Speaker 1: for all three of us is unanimous. Uh, it is

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Speaker 1: don't see Cincinnati trading out of this. There there was

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Speaker 1: the lack of like pro days and team visits and

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Speaker 1: they would have gone to Chase Young's Pro Day and like, oh,

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Speaker 1: gonna take Joe Burrow. I think we all agree that's

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Speaker 1: is the best player in this draft. He's the best

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Speaker 1: I think they would probably take them go ahead. So

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals take a tackle as well. It's tough to

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Speaker 1: see because there's so many receivers. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: somebody would move up for one of these great receivers.

431
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Speaker 1: And you're through. Really if Simmons is on the board. There,

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Speaker 1: he's the last. I think what we would all consider

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Speaker 1: great player or great potential prospect in this draft. Brown

434
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Speaker 1: would be the next one on the list. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: somebody could move up. I don't know who it be,

436
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Speaker 1: but certainly somebody could do it. Maybe the Jets will

437
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Speaker 1: want to do Maybe they just want to get Isaiah

438
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Speaker 1: Simmons and give him to a greg and see what

439
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Speaker 1: he can do in that defense. All right, we move

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Speaker 1: on to pick number eight, the Arizona Cardinals. For the

441
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Speaker 1: longest time, I think there was a big quat. There

442
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Speaker 1: was a thought that wide receiver would make the most

443
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Speaker 1: sense here. Clearly they've addressed that problem thanks to Houston

444
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 1: and Bill O'Brien. Uh, we got him all going offensive line.

445
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Speaker 1: Uh the girl, you have him taking Beckton Wills. Gribble,

446
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Speaker 1: you have them taking Wills, and I have him taking

447
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Speaker 1: Tristan Worse from IWA. Gribble will start with you the

448
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Speaker 1: thoughts of Will's going to Arizona. I think he's the

449
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Speaker 1: best tackle in the draft. And I think for them,

450
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Speaker 1: they just resigned d J. Humphreys, who is a left

451
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Speaker 1: tackle but probably could play right, and then Wills has

452
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Speaker 1: all his experience at right tackle. But could play left.

453
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Speaker 1: So you just get someone that fits the best. And

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Speaker 1: I think Will's makes them better on offensive. If you're

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals, just go all in on offense, protect your quarterback,

456
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Speaker 1: become this proficient, huge offensive team. And I just think

457
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Speaker 1: that that would be the one of the last pieces

458
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Speaker 1: they need to really get it going. Nathan. The reasoning

459
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Speaker 1: and the thought into Beckton being your top tackle off

460
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Speaker 1: the just see he's massive, and I think of Cliff Kingsbury,

461
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Speaker 1: and I think of the fact that they've run four

462
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Speaker 1: receivers a lot, which means you need your five guys

463
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Speaker 1: to occupy a lot of space. And I decided he

464
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Speaker 1: put him on an island and he's a massive man,

465
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Speaker 1: and it just gives Kyler Murray, you know, a big

466
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Speaker 1: guy in front of him to help protect him. Again,

467
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Speaker 1: like I said earlier, and I truly believe this. I

468
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Speaker 1: think if you've got all thirty two teams draft boards,

469
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Speaker 1: there would be at four tackles listed number one on

470
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Speaker 1: various teams boards. So I have no clue what it's

471
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Speaker 1: gonna go or how it's gonna go. I think it's

472
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Speaker 1: pretty safe to say right now though, that you can

473
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Speaker 1: probably pencil the Cardinals in for an offensive tackle at

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Speaker 1: pick eight. Yeah, I don't think there's any question things

475
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Speaker 1: have changed now the free agency or the first week

476
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Speaker 1: of free agencies. Uh. In the rear view mirror, tackle

477
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: is a big, big need. You gotta keep Kyler Murray upright.

478
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Speaker 1: If you're the Arizona Cardinals, all right to pick number nine,

479
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is on the clock. Gribbs will start with you

480
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Speaker 1: at pick number nine. You have the third tackle in

481
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Speaker 1: the draft going off the board at Tristan Worth from Iowa.

482
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Speaker 1: Explain yourself, Well, maybe it's just because I'm trying to

483
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Speaker 1: deploy the reverse jinks here because I think like this

484
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Speaker 1: would be the worst case scenario, I think for the Browns,

485
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Speaker 1: because we don't know what the ranking of the Browns

486
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Speaker 1: tackles is, and it could work out that the guy

487
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Speaker 1: that they want falls to them at number ten. But

488
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars taking a tackle here would make it three

489
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Speaker 1: tackles off the board in the first nine picks, and

490
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Speaker 1: that that could limit your options. Maybe the fourth one

491
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Speaker 1: of around that that falls to you is not someone

492
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Speaker 1: who fits in what you want to do on offense.

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Speaker 1: We don't know that yet, So I think the Jags, though,

494
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Speaker 1: would probably go after a work because he's just probably

495
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Speaker 1: the best all around offensive lineman. I think they he

496
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Speaker 1: could play tackle, he could play guard, he could play

497
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Speaker 1: anything like that. And I think for the Jags, I mean,

498
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Speaker 1: they just weren't very good at all on offense last year,

499
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Speaker 1: so he would be the best offensive player to help

500
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Speaker 1: them out and would protect Gardner, Minshu or whoever they

501
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Speaker 1: end up putting back there. None of us have any

502
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Speaker 1: confidence once forever that a year from now, she is

503
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Speaker 1: their starting quarterback. He's not the girl at pick number nine.

504
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Speaker 1: This is what I have not seen. You have the

505
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Speaker 1: Jaguars taking a wide receiver Jerry Judy, the first one

506
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Speaker 1: off the board from Alabama. Your thoughts as to why

507
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: you know, you look at their roster d J. Chark

508
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 1: had a great season last year. I think it's just

509
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Speaker 1: a matter of this is an all time wide receiver draft,

510
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Speaker 1: so let's get an asset that's gonna be here for

511
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Speaker 1: a long time for our future quarterback. And that's really

512
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Speaker 1: the way that I thought about it. I thought that

513
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Speaker 1: it's not you know, it's a guy that can give

514
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Speaker 1: them a little excitement. As Grim said, they weren't good

515
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Speaker 1: on offense. They weren't explosive. They didn't scare anybody one

516
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Speaker 1: way to help Leonard for Nett and create space for

517
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Speaker 1: him as given guys on the outside the teams have

518
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Speaker 1: to worry about. I think a combination of Jerry Judy

519
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 1: and d J. Shark would be pretty good for that team.

520
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: They still have d D D. Westbrook, who didn't really have

521
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Speaker 1: a very good year last year. But maybe that's the

522
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Speaker 1: direction they go, And it's just it was to me again,

523
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Speaker 1: let's just get the most explosive athlete on the board.

524
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Speaker 1: Let's get the most explosive player on the board, and

525
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Speaker 1: in this case, it would be Jerry Judy. I could

526
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Speaker 1: also see them though, Ie they moved on from Yannick

527
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Speaker 1: and Gockway after you know, franchise hagging him and maybe

528
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Speaker 1: trading him that maybe this is somewhere that Chason comes

529
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Speaker 1: into play the ad dresser from LSU. But at the

530
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Speaker 1: same time, he's a guy whose stock seems to if

531
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Speaker 1: you kind of read between the lines and pay attention

532
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Speaker 1: to the people that you know, talk to people in

533
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: the NFL, he was a guy that was in some

534
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Speaker 1: of the top tens in the MOX and I think

535
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Speaker 1: he's kind of fallen precipitously in some of these more

536
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Speaker 1: recent mocks out of the top ten and out of

537
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Speaker 1: that range. So it was a matter of A. I

538
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Speaker 1: didn't want him to take an offensive lineman so that

539
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Speaker 1: we could have more of a pick, and B I

540
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Speaker 1: thought that maybe they would be doing their future quarterback

541
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Speaker 1: of solid So after they tank and get Trevor Lawrence,

542
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: perhaps he's got built in wide receivers ready to go,

543
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: and you've got to sell something to that fan base.

544
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: They're not exactly lighten things up from a ticket sale standpoint.

545
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: There being a fun offense is always better than being

546
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Speaker 1: an ugly offense. And you go back to even some

547
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: of those Lions teams that were terrible but they had

548
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Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson they could throw it around, or even back

549
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: to the Barry Sanders days, being a it's always better

550
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: to be a fun offense. And I think Jerry Judy

551
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 1: at least brings some excitement and maybe they like runs,

552
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: maybe like Ceedee Lamb. I don't know, but I just

553
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 1: went with a receiver there for him for that reason

554
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: that it would at least be somewhat exciting. I went

555
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: with Derek Brown simply because I want two offensive linemen

556
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Speaker 1: on the board for the Browns to pick from at

557
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Speaker 1: pick number ten. Uh, and I mean they need a

558
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Speaker 1: lot of defensive help. They've lost a lot of guys.

559
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: Got to start somewhere, So why not start with one

560
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Speaker 1: of the best defensive linemen in the draft in Derek Brown.

561
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Speaker 1: All right, so we've gone through the top nine. It

562
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Speaker 1: is now time for the Browns pick at pick number ten.

563
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Speaker 1: Q the ESPN chimes and coming to the podium the

564
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Speaker 1: commissioner to make the pick. What I'm gonna do, I

565
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: need pick number ten from each one of you and

566
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Speaker 1: pick number forty one from each one of you. Gribble,

567
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: we will start with yours first. Again, this is our

568
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: mock draft two point oh. You can read our entire

569
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: mock draft at Cleveland Browns dot com. Each one of

570
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: us posted the entire first round. Should be interesting, look

571
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: forward to getting made fun of. And then we also

572
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: had our first pick of the second round. Gribble, at

573
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Speaker 1: pick number ten, you have the Browns taking Andrew Thomas,

574
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Speaker 1: the tackle out of Georgia. Let's start with that, obviously,

575
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Speaker 1: the position of need and the Browns getting one of

576
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Speaker 1: those four main offensive tackles in this draft. Yeah, and

577
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it could still be a

578
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: really good fit for the Browns. I mean, this is

579
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: the guy who, if you're looking at these four offensive

580
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Speaker 1: tackles that have that we're picking in the first round,

581
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: are in the top ten. He's had the best college career.

582
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been the best performing tackle on one

583
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: of the best teams and one of the best offenses

584
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: in college football. I think he's a really good prototypical

585
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: left tackle. Has been recognized as a talented player ever

586
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: since high school. Is a five star recruit. So I

587
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: think his game has been picked apart a lot, and

588
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: I think all of these tackles have been picked apart

589
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: a lot. I think he's been picked apart the most

590
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: because he had the best college career to this point.

591
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: And I think that, uh, he could still be a

592
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: very good fit, and any other in the last maybe

593
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: four or five drafts, he would be easily the number

594
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: one tackle off the board. So I think this is

595
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: a good spot for the Browns and and we'll see.

596
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: Just It's like Nathan said, I think every building is different,

597
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: every every team has these guys ranked differently, and with

598
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: the moves we've seen made by Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Berry.

599
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: They have a specific skill set they're looking from all

600
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: these guys, So it really is going to depend on

601
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: that well. And I think you take a look at

602
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: it in your mock draft. It's the fourth tackle off

603
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: the board. It's it's literally what if you're the Browns,

604
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: you hope is the worst case scenario and the fact

605
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: that there's still one tackle on the board out of

606
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Speaker 1: the big four. Yeah, and then if if, if the

607
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: fourth guy isn't your guy, then you might move back

608
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: because then I imagine that there's I imagine there's a

609
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: couple of these tackles that we're not talking about that

610
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: the Browns like a lot more than than and other

611
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: teams like a lot more than than we even realize

612
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: right now, like guys like a Josh Jones, Austin Jackson,

613
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: Esgar Cleveland. Those guys could be ranked way higher inside

614
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: buildings than they are on you know, mock draft roundups

615
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: on Cleveland Browns dot com right now. Good point, however,

616
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: I might disagree with that. Uh, at pick number forty

617
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: one in the second round, you've got the edge out

618
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: of Alabama. Terrell lewis a pretty solid football player who

619
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Speaker 1: had a pretty good career in a position of need

620
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Browns. Yeah, and that's that's what'll play

621
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Speaker 1: it in to it My logic with that, I think

622
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: the pass rusher, even after free agency, and obviously free

623
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: agency isn't done yet, maybe you could add some more

624
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: players at that position moving forward, But I think that

625
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: it's a mix of need with pass rusher. I also

626
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: like the belief and skill sets and traits, and I

627
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: think Terrell Lewis, had he stayed healthy in college, would

628
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: have been easily a first round pick. But he missed

629
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: a lot of multiple seasons in college. But he had

630
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Speaker 1: a strong two thousand nineteen season, So the big question

631
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: mark on him is injuries. Can he stay healthy? But

632
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: when he's healthy, he has all of the skill sets, traits,

633
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: athleticism that you want out of that pass rusher position.

634
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: That that could be intriguing to Andrew Berry, especially potentially

635
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Speaker 1: getting a value pick in the second round with him.

636
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Speaker 1: All right, the girl, we move on to your mock

637
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Speaker 1: at pick number ten will start there Kristen Worth's and

638
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: the second tackle off of your board, uh any the

639
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: Iowa offensive tackle to the Browns and pick number ten. Yeah,

640
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: he wowed at the Combine unbelievable athlete and one of

641
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: the things you're looking for in this wide zone scheme

642
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: is a a big time athlete, and I think Kristan

643
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: Worris proved that at the Combine. Do I think we

644
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: will be picking at ten getting the second tackle, possibly,

645
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: could be the four tackle, possibly could have been the

646
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Speaker 1: third tackle. Possibly. I think it's gonna be somewhere in

647
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 1: that range. At least one will go and many as

648
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: many as three will go before And like I said,

649
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: at the Combine, we talked to a lot of people

650
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: who know offensive lines very well and got strong cases

651
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: for all four of those guys to be the top

652
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: guys in his grips mentioned later on somebody told me

653
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: Austin Jackson is the best pure wide zone tackle in

654
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: this draft. So there are a lot of varying opinions here,

655
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 1: but I have the Browns going with Worths. Again, it's

656
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: gonna be up to Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski and

657
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: that board that they've put together, and hopefully the Browns

658
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: are able to get the guy they consider to be

659
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: the top tackle in this draft when they pick at ten.

660
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: I think you look at everything that's been done on

661
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, and there's really one

662
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: piece left, and that is left tackle. I know that

663
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: the organization feels a lot better about right guard than

664
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Speaker 1: that maybe the outside does in terms of whyatt Teller

665
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: and Drew four. And I think Bill Callaghan thinks he

666
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: can he can mold them into darn good right guards.

667
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: So that's really the last piece. You've got your two receivers,

668
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: you've got your two tight ends, you've got your two backs,

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Speaker 1: you got your fullback, you got your quarterback, you got

670
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: your left guard, you got your center, you got your

671
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: right guard, you got your right tackle. That's it, left tackle,

672
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, this thing is complete. Yeah,

673
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Speaker 1: and pick number forty one, you're guying, You're you're staying

674
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: on the train, Buddy Grottos. So I am hoping that

675
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: he's there. I think that it's possible he will go

676
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: as early as the first round, just to make that clear.

677
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: But he's a guy that the Browns could benefit from.

678
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: Everything that's happened. Wasn't able to to run at the combine.

679
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: Pro days, as we know, are no more, and so

680
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: maybe teams are a little bit, you know, skeptical about

681
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: his athletic ability. I think he would have tested off

682
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: the charts, and I think the Browns have an opportunity

683
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: to get a real steal there. And I think defensively,

684
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: you know, you mentioned Gribbs in free agency, we have

685
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: an address defensive end. There still is the notion of

686
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: Olivier Vernon at fifteen and a half million dollars and

687
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: do are the Browns do they want to pay that

688
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: that could be end up freed up tap space that

689
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: could go somewhere else if they decide, you know, take

690
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: a defensive end the second round to get a long term,

691
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: you know, running buddy for Miles Garrett. So I think

692
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: we saw last year the defensive end and depth is

693
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: critically important. I think Chad Thomas, you know, has yet

694
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: to be what maybe the team thought he would be

695
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: when they drafted him early in the third round. I

696
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: think he's got some flashes as a rotational guy, but

697
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: what you need is that book and defensive end. And

698
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: I think it's no coincidence that Gribbs and I both

699
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: went d end here because if you had to go

700
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: through the season with the safeties that you have in

701
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: the room right now, I think you could Andrewson djo

702
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: is a very good veteran who has been around the league,

703
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: certainly familiar with our staff. Uh. Karl Joseph, I think

704
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: the guy who could end up being a real steel

705
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: first round talent if he can stay healthy. Red Wine

706
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: showed enough last year that you feel good about him

707
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: as you're kind of third safety. Uh. And then j

708
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: T Hassele, so maybe you had one more person in

709
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: that room. But the biggest need to me right now

710
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: a defense, outside of getting a big time linebacker or

711
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: at least a veteran linebacker in there, is to get

712
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: that edge of the future alongside Myles Garrett. And so

713
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: that's why I use some pretty important draft real estate

714
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: here to do just that, alright. At pick number ten,

715
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: I had Andrew Thomas again, just taking a look at

716
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: the tackle situation. He's the third guy off the board,

717
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: and I felt like, as much as I like Will's

718
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: the whole transition right tackle left tackle, I think you

719
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: can make it. I don't think it'll be a problem.

720
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm probably overthinking it, but I like Andrew Thomas blocking

721
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: for his college buddy, Uh, you know, in our back field,

722
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: kind of like that little combination. At pick forty one,

723
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: I bucked the trend. I know we need an edge rusher.

724
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: I know we need a linebacker. I had like three

725
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: or four guys picked out. I don't think any of

726
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: them are gonna be there by the time we pick

727
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: at forty one, including this guy. But I had to

728
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: pick somebody. So when were they twine Winfield Junior, the

729
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: safety out of Minnesota. I think that we do need

730
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 1: a couple of guys back there to help out and

731
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 1: and be ready to go in case one of these

732
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: one year contracts doesn't play out and then you're back

733
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: to square one of trying to fill the void. You

734
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: gotta start paying guys. Why not have a guy on

735
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: a rookie contract ready to slide right in after a

736
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: year of development. And that's where I think Winfield Junior

737
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: can come in and be a player for you. I

738
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: also think and Gribbs and Gibbs, let me know what

739
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: you guys think. I think if whoever we if we

740
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: pick somebody at forty one, I think the plan is

741
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: going to be for them to start. I mean, I

742
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: don't think we're the kind of roster right now where

743
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna pick somebody at forty one to sit. So

744
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: I was looking at the easiest path. But I think

745
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: you could certainly make the case if there's a safety

746
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: they love there that they would turn, you know, Sendejo

747
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: into that third safety and say, here's a veteran here.

748
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: He's gonna help teach the defense, but he can play

749
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: both free and strong. He's the third. We've got red Wine,

750
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: and now your safety room feels real good. I have

751
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: no problem at all with the safety there, but I

752
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: think pick forty one is somebody that is going to

753
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: be draft to play. I would think, yeah. I mean,

754
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: the Brown's got Greedy Williams a few picks later last

755
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: year and he was plugging play right away, So you

756
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: know the talent that you can get at that spot.

757
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: The reason why I went away from safety it was

758
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: just I feel like I've been through enough free agency

759
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: classes over and over again where it just seems like

760
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: there's always safeties. They're they're always available, seemingly in free agency.

761
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: You saw that the Browns did adding a couple of

762
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: them here. Uh, there aren't always pass rushers, and when

763
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: there are pass rushers, they end up either going for

764
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: a ton of money or sitting on the market for

765
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 1: a long time because they need a ton of money.

766
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: So I think that, uh, if you can get one

767
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: of these valuable positions that at forty one, you you

768
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: jump on it. I would think that the position of

769
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: met up there with pass rushers probably still linebacker, but

770
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: just not a player that really makes sense at that

771
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: spot and draft. All right, before we wrap up here,

772
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 1: and again you can check out all our complete mock

773
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: draft two point oh for first round picks one through

774
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: thirty two online at Cleveland brown dot com. What was

775
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: the biggest challenge in putting together mock draft two point out?

776
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: Grips will start with you. I would just say figuring

777
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: out that I just have no idea what the lines

778
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: are gonna do. And I think I made a compelling

779
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: case for Jeff Okuda, But I mean I could see

780
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: them drafting five different players at that spot, and I

781
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: think that that all of that comes down to how

782
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: it's going to affect the Browns at number ten. And

783
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: I think if we're trying to get really crazy here,

784
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: I think Okuda and um Isaiah Simmons are the two

785
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: players that I would see the Browns taking if they're available.

786
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: Over and offense attackle those are the two guys out

787
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: there that I would think that where you really have

788
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: to start questioning, are we getting the best available player?

789
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: If we're taking offense, attack the girl. I think the

790
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: hardest part for me it was, now with all this

791
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: crazy quarterback carousel spinning, as I said earlier, was trying

792
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: to find a place for Jordan Love and trying to

793
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: get him into the first round, trying to figure out,

794
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, with the Niners, with that trade losing Emmanuel Sanders,

795
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: did they want to fill the defensive tackle roll at

796
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: thirteen because the receiver so deeper? Do they want to

797
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: take a receiver at thirteen and then take the defensive

798
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: tackle later on where maybe it makes more sense. And

799
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Speaker 1: I ultimately went with them taking Henry Ruggs at thirteen.

800
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: You think about adding him into that offense would be

801
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: pretty spectacular. So yeah, for me, it was really just

802
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: George Love, a guy that you know, we're trying to

803
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: talk ourselves into the top nine picks to push some

804
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: more talent to us, and now it's how do we

805
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: find us spot for him in the first round. Who's

806
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: the team that's gonna bite and even thinking through theoretical trades,

807
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: you know, who's a team that's willing to move up

808
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: for to H and I it was hard to come

809
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: up with one, and then the Gribbs and I we

810
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: talked about that earlier. It just seems with so many

811
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: unknowns and the way it's all going, that you can

812
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: look at teams on paper and say, Okay, these are

813
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: the needs, these are the directions they'll probably go. But

814
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: even I think there's gonna be more variance on draft

815
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: boards across the league than ever before because of the

816
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: limited information, the limited interaction. Yes, they get to do

817
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: a video conference, I think like this for the thirty visits,

818
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: but it's not the same, and the whole process is

819
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: gonna be a little different. And I wonder at GRIBs

820
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: you made a point about, you know, Andrew Thomas being

821
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: the best, most productive in college, so probably has the

822
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: best college tape. And I wonder if this is gonna

823
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: be one of those drafts where teams rely a heck

824
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: of a lot more on the tape than maybe some

825
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: of the other things in the past, and it'll be

826
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: curiously what the results are and see if that's a

827
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: trend that get people back to why do we change

828
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: our ranking so much? From when football stops being played?

829
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: So when the draft comes and as we tape today,

830
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: there are three quarterbacks that should be starting in the

831
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: NFL that are free agents right now. Yeah, I mean,

832
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: and I don't know if Dalton is technically a free agent,

833
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: but he's gonna he's he's avails, not gonna be a angle.

834
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's Andy Dalton, Cam Newton and Jameis Winston.

835
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: I mean, those guys are available, and I if I

836
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: was the Chargers, I would. I don't know how much

837
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: they love Justin Herbert, but you want to sell tickets,

838
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: Let's bring can to town and let's let's just try

839
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: it for a year and to see see what happens. Yeah,

840
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I would. I would give it

841
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: a shot. I would. I would trust all three of

842
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: those quarterbacks over Justin Herbert right now at number six?

843
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: Are we really gonna believe that the New England Patriots

844
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: are gonna go into this season with Jared Stidham and

845
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer? Are we really? Is that? Is that really

846
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: the situation that we're gonna believe is gonna happen? Here?

847
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: I can tell you who's not going there though, and

848
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: it's Jameis Winston. So I'm narrowing it down to Tom

849
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: Dalton makes a lot of sense in terms of similar style,

850
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: at least to Brady. You're dismissing Howyer in the competition here.

851
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: I'm not saying dismissing in the countess of the guys

852
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: one and eleven games as a starter. I just don't

853
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: think that that's if you're trying to do Patriot type

854
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: of things. That quarterback room doesn't scream we're trying to

855
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: win the a f C East again. Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: I'm still picking in the win the division right now,

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Speaker 1: Like I think that they would be my pick to

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Speaker 1: Are you warming up to Brady with the Buccaneers though? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the first time we talked about it, you didn't. You weren't.

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Speaker 1: You weren't too sold on it. Warming up a little bit, Gribbs.

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Speaker 1: Come on, I wouldn't take them to make the playoffs today.

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Speaker 1: I just I just don't think they're making the playoffs

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Speaker 1: even with seven teams. Wow, now they're not making the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: That is fantastic Gribbs ending stuff the way he ended

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Speaker 1: I have, Gibbs, those me two separate Taco Bell dinners,

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Speaker 1: So I'm willing to put one of my extra Taco

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Speaker 1: Bell dinners on the line right now. Buccaneers making the

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Speaker 1: you don't think he's gonna make the playoffs. This is

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Speaker 1: just about the Buccaneers. We don't need to bring more people.

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Speaker 1: Let's that and muddy the waters. That's fine. I'll stand

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Speaker 1: by that. Then. Okay, all right, careful girl eats an

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Speaker 1: enormous amount of food. Is we both know, Gribble, I'm

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Speaker 1: good at that, alright. Mock draft. Two points in the book,

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