1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Hey, they're friends. Welcome back to the show 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Crazy Word. This is our low fiest episode ever because 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: we are out in Palm Springs, California, sunny times at 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: our friend Max and Stephanie's wedding was last night. We 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: had an amazing time, the best people. Tiny little sandstorm 6 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: but nothing serious. It actually gave her veil a beautiful 7 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: Beyonce effect. Yes, the sort of flailing in the wind. 8 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: It was beautiful. It was so cool. It just got 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: very windy right before the ceremony started. Yeah, fortunately not 10 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: like you know, it wasn't like the Mummy. It was 11 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: just like to get a little dust in our eyes. 12 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, mostly I think it was just a nice effect. 13 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: And then we cried a little during the vows, so 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: that washed all the dust away. Exactly. It's all good 15 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: and it all went according to plant. Oh man, there's 16 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: such great people and we are super happy for them. 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, this one probably sounds different because we're in 18 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: a hotel room. So yeah, we had to like a 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: cobble together a real makeshift hotel studio, and it's we 20 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: were just having to wait for a crazy dust blower situation. 21 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: A leaf blower for no leaves. Yeah, I guess it's 22 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: just for so. Yeah, that's that's what's happening, getting creative 23 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: over here. So we're here today with a really cool 24 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: two parter about something that I think a lot of 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: us can relate to, and that is about how relationships 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: have endured the pandemic. Don't don't Yeah. Andrea J actually 27 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: reached out and suggested one of these stories and was like, 28 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: I know it's probably not enough for a whole episode, 29 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: but maybe there's a few out there. And we were like, 30 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: that's a damn fine idea, Andrea, Yeah, there's some definitely 31 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: some very interesting so we had to narrow it down. 32 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: Obviously there's plenty. It was definitely a global pandemic, so 33 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: many relationships for effect did in various ways that everything. 34 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: But we these these we found to be really fascinating 35 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: and just weird and ridiculous. And hey, the leafblowers coming back, 36 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: So I say we jump right in. Let's go, Hey 37 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: the French, come listen. Well, Eli and Diana got some 38 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: stories to tell. There's no matchmaking, a romantic tips. It's 39 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: just about ridiculous relationships a lover. It might be any 40 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: type of person at all, and abstract cons a don't 41 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: a concrete wall. But if there's a story with the 42 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: second clinch ridiculous roles a production of I Heart Radio. 43 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: So the first story I wanted to tell you about 44 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: it we found in a Slate article from November one 45 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: by UM Elizabeth Anne Brown, and she was talking about 46 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: her very bizarre process to marry her long distance fiance, Enrique. 47 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: So she says that she befriended and exchanged student in 48 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: high school and that friend introduced her to her brother, Enrique, 49 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: and love was love bloomed. And after seven years of 50 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: a transatlantic courtship where they were both living in different 51 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: countries and just really doing the long distance thing. And 52 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: you know, that's pretty cool because you know, you know 53 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: you're in it, You're really in it. Why I'm willing 54 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: to make this work however far where you are, right, 55 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: So that's really wonderful. Um. But yeah, they that they 56 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: spent seven years courting across the ocean, I guess. And 57 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: then they were going to get married on April eighteen. 58 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: What a great time for a wedding, April, perfect time 59 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: of year. They were going to do it at a 60 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: small restaurant in Spain. Oh that's great, I mean, I 61 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: would love to get remarried in Spain. Well, thank you 62 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: very much. I would love to redo everything in my 63 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: life in Spain. But no, I think that's great. April 64 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: is so good, nice, even year. You know, it's great. 65 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: You can always remember what anniversary it is because you 66 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: just add twenty and you're done. You're done, easy, easy. 67 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, she said about the small restaurant 68 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: in Spain. Quote, it was the kind with a broken 69 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: down cigarette machine in the corner, inconceivably good food, a 70 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: couple of old timers cackling and judging you from the 71 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: table by the bathroom. I would love to attend this 72 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: wedding there. In my mind, I'm there. This place is awesome, actly, 73 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: and I'm so relaxed. I feel amazing. Then so then 74 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: they were like, we're going to go to this small restaurant. 75 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: We're going to let the old timers laugh at us. 76 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna get married. And then they plan to apply 77 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: for Enrique's visa and moved to the US together. Dust 78 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: your hands off. Everything's great, what a plan. It sounds perfect, 79 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: all good. But in March, Enrique's parents contracted COVID nineteen, 80 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: so they were going to have to postpone the wedding 81 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: at that point anyway, So early on too, it must 82 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: have been like when you got it before me. I 83 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: got an April, and it was Yeah, it gets in 84 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: your head because we didn't know much at that time 85 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, So in North Carolina, Elizabeth went from 86 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: quote discussing logistics of American quarantine as a legal question 87 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: to interviewing bereaved families in a matter of weeks. Yeah, 88 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: she works in journalism obviously, right, Yeah, her job changed 89 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: a lot, absolutely and became very tragic, like many jobs. Well, 90 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: and I hear this about journalism a lot too, is 91 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: that you know, one thing we don't think about with journalists. 92 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: They're they're meant to kind of be detached and sort 93 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: of be like neutral observers of the story they're telling 94 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: a lot of the times, so we don't think about 95 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: how hearing about all this tragedy constantly really affects them. Yeah, right, 96 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: that's a that's a really I've heard journalists talk about 97 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: that before. Is like, you know, you go out and 98 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: you're doing all these stories that are really heartbreaking, and 99 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: it hits you hard. You've got to take that home 100 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: with you and you can't even necessarily put it all 101 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: into your work. Yeah, that's true. I think our friend 102 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: Katie Hawkins Gard was very talented journalist and writer and 103 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: she's freelanced now, very incredible, incredible. Check out her blog. 104 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: It's called my Sweet Dumb Brain This as at all. 105 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: It's really wonderful. Um. But she worked for a point 106 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: Institute and study that the traumatic effect of having to 107 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: report on traumatic events because you have to like look 108 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: at all the raw footage and then kind of filter 109 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: it for people and make it a little less horror 110 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: show or whatever. So I guess Elizabeth was really having 111 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: to dive into some very sad stories, especially those first 112 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: few months when really we had nothing to fight, We 113 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: had nothing to fight it with. Yeah. And in Spain 114 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: it was just as hard for Enrique as he and 115 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: his family watched as Spain's largest ice rink got converted 116 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: into an overflown morgue. Because if you remember, you know 117 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: all over the world, but I know Western Europe, Italy, Spain, 118 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: like some of these places got hit so hard and 119 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: they they saw cases surge so dramatically, so quickly. Um. 120 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: And so Enrique was seeing that in Spain, while Elizabeth 121 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: was dealing us back home in the US. Just not 122 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: a good time for anybody who is supposed to be 123 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: their wedding magical time and but total opposite. Of course. 124 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: Another thing that happened in March was a bunch of 125 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: travel restrictions and people were closing their borders and you 126 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: could not go anywhere do anything outside of your own country. 127 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: And they realized, oh my god, you know, we're not 128 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: gonna I'm not gonna be able to go to Spain 129 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: to get married to you. You can't come to the 130 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: US to get married to me or even after a wedding, 131 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: you know. Um, So she was saying she couldn't travel 132 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: to Spain unless she was already married to Enrique, which 133 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: of course was the whole point of going to Spain. 134 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: And obviously at that point there had been no successful 135 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: vaccine trials. All that work was still being done. There 136 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: is no treatments, there was no nothing. So they were 137 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: trying kind of kind of like, we don't want to 138 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: wait forever. It could be years, it could be years. 139 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: You have no idea how long this is gonna take. 140 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: So they started to try to figure out their options, 141 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: and there are sub options now. Fortunately Spain recognizes marriage 142 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: by proxy. Um. It reminds me of Harlo Ponti and 143 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: Sophia lo Wren, who got married by proxy via their 144 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: lawyers in Mexico. Of course, that turned out to be 145 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: a whole different thing for everybody. I think royals did 146 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: a lot in war too. Yeah, it's like a way 147 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: someone stands in for you, basically if you can't be there. 148 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: But in order to designate Enrique's sister as Elizabeth's proxy agent, 149 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: Elizabeth had to sign forms in front of a Spanish 150 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: official giving the sister quote special powers, special powers, where 151 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: the Spanish court would give me special powers. She's like, 152 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm not only able to marry my own brother for you, 153 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: but I can leap tall buildings in a single boot only. 154 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: So the local Spanish consulate in Birmingham wasn't able to 155 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: do this for Elizabeth, so she and her mom had 156 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: to drive eleven hours to Houston, Texas, and while they 157 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: were crossing over Louisiana, they ended up stuck on the 158 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: highway because two tractor trailers and a car collided on 159 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: a bridge and literally burst into flames. After four hours 160 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: of them just sitting on the highway waiting, Elizabeth and 161 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: a number of other cars very literally drove the wrong 162 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 1: way down the other side of the highway, desperate for 163 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: a bathroom. Yeah, four hours on the highway expecting that, 164 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: she wrote, quote, since there were in excess of fifty 165 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: cars whizzing the wrong way down the highway, law enforcement 166 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: politely pretended not to see us. Thank you so much. Clearly, 167 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: these people are about to pee their pants and we 168 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: are not going to get They're running out of gas 169 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: or emergencies are happening. So they're eleven hour drive to 170 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: Houston turned into a sixteen hour trip through the back 171 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: roads until they finally got to Texas. You know, it's like, 172 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: we we just took a road trip out here to 173 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: Palm Springs and people were like, how was it, And 174 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: I'm always like, great, nothing to report. That's the best 175 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: thing about a road trip is when very little happens 176 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: then you need to talk about. So, Yeah, they finally 177 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: got to Houston, they got their paper stamped. Sister had 178 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: special powers. Seems like, okay, we're doing all right, We're 179 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: on schedule. But on the way home, they were basically 180 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: racing a tropical storm. They were literally twenty minutes ahead 181 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: of it, and they're just trying to keep ahead of 182 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: this tropical storm. And Enrique was like their oracle and batman. 183 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: He was like, they're there, what's that the guy in 184 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: the computer, the guy in the chair. And in Spain 185 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: he was like tracking them on GPS and trying to 186 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: help them keep keep ahead of these downpours. Which is 187 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: so funny that they were kind of going through that 188 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: together even though they were so far apart. But here 189 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: we go. There was one more problem with this proxy wedding. 190 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: The US does not accept proxy marriages. They don't recognize 191 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: them the same way that Spain does, unless, of course, 192 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: Elizabeth and Enrique could prove that their wedding had been 193 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: consummated in person after the legal ceremony. What first of all, 194 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: why are we getting married in proxy? If we can 195 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: just consummate in personnel, it would be the point of it. 196 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: We'd be together, wouldn't need the proxy. I just didn't 197 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: feel like getting up that day, Like I said someone 198 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: else assistant an, I'll see you for the honeymoon, you know, 199 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: Elizabeth asked her young immigration lawyer, quote, are we do 200 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: we need to make a sex tape for the government, 201 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: Which is like a joke, but actually the lawyer took 202 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: it pretty seriously. It was like, um, no, that would 203 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: not actually work because you would have to it would 204 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: have to be like date stamps, Like you'd have to 205 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: prove to have a newspaper with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 206 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 1: he's like holding up a newspaper like that's insane. So 207 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: they just like they might be a sex tape you 208 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: had previous to your marriage. So she was like, no, 209 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: we'd ever made a sex tape together. Thanks for asking. 210 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 1: What are they trying to prevent here? Maybe just like, um, 211 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, like to prevent like a fake totally 212 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: fake marriage that you had to bring card marriage or something. Yeah, 213 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: where you're like, oh, I don't even know this guy. 214 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: But anyway, he's across the country. We get married by proxy, 215 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: and now he's a citizen and cool, and I never 216 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: have to see him again. We met on final fantasy. 217 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: You know, we've never actually seen each other. I mean, 218 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I suppose so, but I don't see 219 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: how the sex tape, right, it proves that does that 220 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: have Does that really prove that you have an existing 221 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: relationship that you care about? Boy? I don't know the 222 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: government work true, But yeah, she said it was a 223 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: mood point they had never made a sex tape together 224 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: because quote, we just didn't foresee a legal situation in 225 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: which that would be useful. Now, fortunately there was no 226 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: amateur pornography required for this. For this unacceptable, the US 227 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: said that they had to provide pictures of the two 228 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: of them clothed, fortunately in physical proximity after the marriage, 229 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: and they to provide plane tickets that proved they were 230 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: in the same place at the same time. Elizabeth wrote, 231 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: quote Apparently they assumed that as soon as we get 232 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: within spitting distance of each other, we'll snap together like magnets. 233 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: We wondered how far we could push this if we 234 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: supplied the government with documentation that we shared a forty 235 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: five minute layover in Heathrow, would some bureaucrat call my 236 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: bluff and say that we didn't consummate our union in 237 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: a terminal three bathroom wed I know totally. I mean, 238 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: you'd have to write definitely, especially with as many like 239 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: weird events that have had they come up, like they 240 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: had a tractor trailer explode on their way to Houston. 241 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: They on the way back, they had a rain storm, 242 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: like and we're not even halfway through this story, like 243 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: that's more. You know what I mean, it's insane. You 244 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: would have to laugh, I guess, And this is a 245 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: great spot for a break. We will be right back, 246 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: all right, welcome back to the show. Then, of course 247 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: they had to achieve the wedding itself, and Elizabeth pointed out, 248 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: it's not like there's a Pinterest board to plan your 249 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: oxy wedding to someone from far away and make it 250 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: beautiful and romantic and like meaningful. Um, so she's you know, 251 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: she says. The wedding took place in Madrid at eleven am. 252 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: She the bread was fast asleep because it was four 253 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: am in Alabama, and the groom's sister stood in for her. 254 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: And then at six thirty am in Alabama, she woke 255 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: up to the sound of wedding bells thanks to an 256 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: app she had downloaded on her phone. So that's kind 257 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: of nice, I guess, a good touch and quote a 258 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: completely unexplained power outage. Well, of course, of course, by 259 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: then I'd be like, yeah, this this sounds legit, that 260 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: sounds right, checks out. The zooms ceremony was at nine am. 261 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: She wore a cream colored sweater, her mother's pink jeans, 262 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: and no shoes. The groom kept drifting off screen as 263 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: his aunt's cracked jokes, and she wrote, quote, Enriquae and 264 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: I have never wallowed in our separation. I've always known 265 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: what I was signing up for in a long distance relationship, 266 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: and of is known he's worth it. But we thought 267 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: we'd at least make it to the finish line, hand 268 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: in hand. So I think it was probably pretty bitter sweet. Sure. 269 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's nice to get it done for all 270 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: the paperwork reasons they need, but like it would be like, Okay, 271 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: this is literally this is a proxy thing. It's fake thing. 272 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: We have a real thing later. Well, that's going to 273 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: be a theme here with these pandemic weddings, for sure. 274 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: So after all that, they were considered husband and wife. 275 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: Congratulations in Spain, But in America Enrique is just Elizabeth's 276 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: alien relative, as they called it. She says, he took 277 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: he had a lot, found a lot of humor in 278 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: that thing. In April of one, they reunited in Denmark, 279 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: and as of the articles publishing in November one, they 280 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: were still there with the Danish government working for months 281 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: trying to figure out quote how married we are? They 282 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: called her her husband Schrodinger's newly Weds that were quote 283 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: by all accounts, more married than unmarried. That is so funny. 284 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: Took the percentages of marriage on the scale of married 285 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: to not married. You're somewhere in the middle. Right. Listen, 286 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: in Denmark, marriage is a spectrum and you can fall 287 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: anywhere on the spectrum. They are wearing their wedding rings 288 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: at this point his he has on the traditional American 289 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: way on his left hand on the ring finger, and 290 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: she is wearing hers in the traditional Spanish way on 291 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: the third finger of her right hand. I never knew 292 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: it was different, so that I just wanted to include 293 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: that because I thought that was really and that's a 294 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: cool way to to acknowledge each other's you know, countries 295 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: and traditions. That's nice. It's wedding rings. I think, at 296 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: least here in America, I always took them so much 297 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: for granted, every both people wear one and their third 298 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: finger of their left hand makes sense to me. Um, 299 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: But I remember learning while I was working on underground 300 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: railroad we had to go through all the extras and 301 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: make sure that if any of the men took their 302 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: wedding rings off, because back in that era, men didn't 303 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 1: wear wedding rings. For a long time, men didn't wear 304 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: wedding rings. That was totally seen as a very feminine 305 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: thing to do. Um, we'll have to do an episode 306 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: about that later. I'm not sure exactly when we've changed, 307 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: but I know in the eighteen hundreds, not not not 308 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: cool for men to wear many wedding rings. It's interesting. 309 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: I wonder if they're like, I'm a rolling stone, I 310 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: have no chain on me. Yeah exactly. It's like, well, 311 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: I've got a symbol on you, but I don't need it. 312 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: I can do whatever. We'll find out. You can trust me. 313 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm a man. I need to make sure to tag 314 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: you as a married woman. So Elizabeth concluded that whole 315 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: article by writing, quote, my wedding dress two thirds fitted, 316 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: hangs in the guest room closet of my childhood home. 317 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: It and we will have our day. So that's nice. 318 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: I mean that they are still planning. They're gonna do 319 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: this wedding one day. They got the legal part out 320 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: of the way, but they're still gonna have their ceremony. 321 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: Another theme we will hear about many times throughout these uh, 322 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: these pandemic weddings. But yeah, we actually reached out to 323 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: Elizabeth on Twitter to see if there is any updates 324 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: to this story because it's been a few months now 325 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: and maybe Denmark worked it out and they figured out 326 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: how married they are now or whatever. So it's like, 327 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: did you ever did your wedding dress ever have its day? 328 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: You know what happened, And she was awesome enough to respond, 329 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: so we're very excited that she did that. Thank you 330 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: for responding, Elizabeth, and I'm so glad that we did 331 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: because it is an amazing update. As usual, it was 332 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: nothing is simple for Elizabeth Enrique. She said, yeah, they 333 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: moved to Denmark because Enrique had gotten a job there, 334 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: so that's kind of where they why they landed. But 335 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: it turns out Denmark is one of the only, or 336 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: possibly the only, EU country that does not recognize marriages 337 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: performed by other EU member states as valid in Denmark. 338 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: So Denmark's like, well, you know, you should probably just 339 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: remarry here under Danish law and then you know, all good, easy, peasy, 340 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,719 Speaker 1: lemon squeezy. Trouble was they were going to need signed 341 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: affid davits from their home countries saying that they weren't married. 342 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: After all. This trouble they went to to get married. 343 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: It's like insane. They've got to prove that they're not. 344 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: I'd be like, I'd be like walking around going is 345 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: it me? She said, quote our home countries frowned upon 346 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: considering we are indeed as married as Spain can make us. 347 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: Spain is like we went through a lot of PaperWorks. 348 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: Sure you were married. Now you want more paperwork saying 349 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: you're not. Oh my god. So they were in this uh, 350 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: this stalemate she called it, with the Danish government for months. 351 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: Quote too married to remarry, but not married enough for 352 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: residents permit. That's where that Schrodinger's Newly Weds kind of 353 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: stage at the process of your vers to uh, half in, 354 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: half out, you got one ft in the door. You 355 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: see him committed. So okay, now they've made a plan 356 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: to fly to Spain, get a quick divorce, then fly 357 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: back to Denmark and get remarried. I wonder if you 358 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,239 Speaker 1: get another like quickie bachelor, bachelor might as well. They're like, 359 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: well we just got divorced, so we'll just go out together, 360 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: troll the bars and go get married tomorrow. They deserve it, amen. 361 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: But fortunately the Danish government did give them a special 362 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: dispensation to remarry without having to go get the divorce. 363 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure they sat down with the whoever they were 364 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: talking to you, like this is what we're going to 365 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: have to do, and they're like, oh my god, there's 366 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: got to be a way around there. She sits down 367 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: with the Danish government and she's like, I don't know 368 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: if any of you have ever driven from Birmingham to 369 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: Houston on a normal day, but let me tell you 370 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: about Birmingham to Houston is like driving across the entire 371 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: European cotton. I know they'd be like, you drove from 372 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: what to wear eleven hours. So ultimately Elizabeth said quote 373 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: it was hilarious, basically a permission slip that was like, 374 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: don't ask them if they're already married. So yeah, they 375 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: got married again at Danish City Hall with two court 376 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: appointed witnesses, and she said quote, still not the wedding 377 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: we had envisioned, but hey, we both got to attend 378 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: this one in person. Third times a char So yeah, 379 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 1: they still she has still not had her wedding dress, wedding, 380 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: and they had two weddings now, so maybe when she 381 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: has her third one will we'll try to update hopefully, 382 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: we'll get an update. We're rooting for you both to 383 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: get tixtures. I feel very invested in this relationship. What 384 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: a story. Oh man, Well, I hope they get it. 385 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: I know they get that wedding of their dreams. Hopefully 386 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: things are getting back to a point where they can 387 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: do that. Um, and congrats on the move to Denmark too, 388 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: because that sounds cool, that sounds great. Yeah. Yeah, the 389 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 1: legislative ridiculousness. Seriously, but it's funny because I'm like, you know, 390 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: you think about all the hiccups of a regular wedding 391 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: and you're like, well, I would take those over all. 392 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: This sinsanity seriously, but that that must mean it's really 393 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: solid between the two of them. If you're both willing 394 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: to go through all that to get married, then that's 395 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: the real ship right there. Super exciting. Well that's not all. 396 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: We've got another wacky story for you coming up. Right 397 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: after this. We're gonna take a quick commercial break and 398 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: we will be right back and welcome back to Love 399 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: in the Time A coronavirus. Oh yeah, Now, this is 400 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: the story that Andrea Jy sent to us by email, 401 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: and this this one super great. This is about Aisha. 402 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: We think that's the pronunciation of her name, uh Aisha 403 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: and Darren. Now Aisha lives in Lancaster in the UK, 404 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: and she was lonely during the pandemic lockdowns like many 405 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: of us, you know, even even though it's married, we 406 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: were still like lonely together and probably a lot of roommates. Yeah, 407 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: So she gravitated to a Facebook group that was geared 408 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: towards finding and connecting pen pals from all over the world. 409 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: She started talking to a fifty six year old American 410 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 1: woman named Kendra, who asked if I show would be 411 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: willing to meet her son, Darren, who lived in Detroit. 412 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: But they were similar ages and he'd been wanting to 413 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: chat with someone from the UK. Yeah, that's exciting. I 414 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: love talking to people from the UK anywhere. Yeah, I 415 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: love talking to people from anywhere. I should told Metro News. 416 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: We got on so well. So when she suggested speaking 417 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: to her son, I thought it was a great idea, 418 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: though I was a bit nervous because I'd seen photos 419 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: of him and he looked lovely. So the two of 420 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: them started talking in July and it became clear pretty 421 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: quickly that this was a special connection. I just said, 422 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: quote I worried that it might be awkward, but we 423 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: talked for hours and they discovered that they were both 424 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: terrified of thunder and lightning. And they both had old 425 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: tattoos with blue eyes. That is kind of weird coins coincidence. Yeah, 426 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: I wonder if they're like very similar artworks of owls, right, 427 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: like distinct enough that it's like a cute thing, or 428 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: we both have our own kind of owl. I love that. So, yeah, 429 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: they spoke on the phone every night despite the five 430 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: hour time difference. Aisha had been furloughed, so she was 431 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: able to alter her sleep patterns and so she just 432 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: slept at the same time that Darren would sleep, even 433 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: though you know he was five hours away. Um. She 434 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 1: said the would even video call and fall asleep together. Quote. 435 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: Then usually when I wake up, he's still there sleeping. 436 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: It's the closest we can get and might sound strange, 437 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: but it's a huge comfort, which I can totally see 438 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: that I would be kind of wonderful, especially if your 439 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: battery keep plugged in. But wake up and just see 440 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: the person. It's kind of like waking up next to them. 441 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: I guess the closest you can get to that. I 442 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: think you know, we're so adaptable. Are are are weird 443 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: big brains, and it's definitely something that I think has happened. 444 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: It's really surged forward in this last couple of years 445 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: that we have really been able to adapt to some 446 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: degree the notion of seeing someone over a screen and 447 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: feeling physically close to them. You know, it's never going 448 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: to fully replace that, but I think it's become something 449 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: that we've grown kind of used to in the last 450 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: couple of years. And it was certainly a lot weirder 451 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: in early UM than it was a year into it, 452 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: and and now especially I think there's I think it's 453 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: easier for us to make that real connection over a 454 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: screen than it used to be. Do you think it's 455 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: easier over a screen than it would be just with 456 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: a phone or letters or something, because I know people 457 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: do fall in love to Absolutely, we've done stories on 458 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: that right here on the show. I think there's probably 459 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: something a little I think there's a little enhancement to 460 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: it that you have the visual too, because it's almost 461 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: like it's enough to just have the words if it's 462 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: just through letters, but then you get to add this 463 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: visual element to it. So that's only giving it a 464 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: little bit of a boost extra yea. And the real 465 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: time communication too, so it's more like a conversation rather 466 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: than a back and forth sort of thing. That's very true, 467 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: and get more of a like do we actually vibe 468 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: talking and stuff that makes sense and yeah, you know, 469 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: much like you have to do with a long distance relationship. 470 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: They would plan weekly date nights together. They would surprise 471 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: each other with like delivered takeout or treats, you know, 472 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: just to keep things special and surprise each other and 473 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: kind of have a romantic connection in that way, even 474 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: though they couldn't do you know, be in the same place. 475 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: It's so nice. Of course, I should wanted to travel 476 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: to meet Darren in person, but travel bands, restrictions all 477 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: of that made that pretty impossible. So she tried to 478 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: get around the bands by flying into Mexico for fifteen days, 479 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: but she got sent home by immigration AISA had listed 480 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: Darren's address as her destination on her tourist visa, and 481 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: when they asked her about their relationship, she told them 482 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: he was her boyfriend. So she thinks that they decided 483 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: she would probably outstay her visa. Yeah, they were like, oh, 484 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: you're trying to sneak in maybe or something. Yeah, yeah, 485 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: she should have been like he I barely know him. 486 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: I hate that guy. I hate that guy. I'm just 487 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: going to slap him in the face and then I'm 488 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: going home. But she said, quote it was so heartbreaking 489 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: to be so close to him but not be allowed 490 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: through the border. I was put on the next flight 491 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: home and I cried the whole way back. I know, 492 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: and and that like Mexico isn't even that close to Detroit, 493 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: but compared to, you know, being in Lancaster, like I'm 494 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: so close. Yeah, one more leg of this trip and 495 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm by his side. Sad. But days after she got 496 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: home one Darren suggested they should both get dressed up 497 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: and have a special date night on Skype. And when 498 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: she answered the call, he seemed kind of nervous, which 499 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: she thought, let's not like him, like, what's what's going on? 500 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: It's given me suspect confident boy, I know. But then 501 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: he got down on one knee and asked her to 502 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: marry him, ring and everything, because he'd been planning to 503 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: ask her when she visited him in Detroit. I just wondered, like, 504 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: do you think that he planned to like greet at 505 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: the airport with like bloons, flowers, ring like marry me now, 506 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: of which would be super cutelantic, or if he was like, no, 507 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: she'll get here, we'll get settled in, you know, we'll 508 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: get dressed up, we'll have a date, you know, and 509 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: then I'll do it like that. Yeah, it's Detroit, Like 510 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: I'll take her to the Motor City Museum. Get down 511 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: on one knee, I'll open an oil can. They'll have 512 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: a ring inside. Chuck Berry, please bless my, very gordy, 513 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: please bless my Probably better, I think Chuck Berry is 514 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: not the best mar Yeah, I don't know. Well, it's lockdown. 515 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: Probably can't go to the museum at this point. Um. 516 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: Also the airport. I think you'd try something like that 517 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: at the airport and you get tackled by t s 518 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: A guards. Probably he reaches into his pocket and they're 519 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: like Jesus, the whole airport gets evacuated. To propose to 520 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: my British girlfriend. It's a romantic moment. It would be memorable, 521 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: I guess, But no, thank you. Well, I'm sure he 522 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: had something totally in mind, because he just he strikes 523 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: me as the kind of guy who was like, I 524 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: need to really make this because apparently he had even 525 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: asked her father for permission ahead of time before she 526 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: came to visit everything, so he had this in mind 527 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: for a minute, and of course he did by the 528 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: rain and everything. Nice. I didn't ask your father. No, 529 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: I don't care what he thought. I was going to 530 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: do it anyway, but I'm glad that he was happy. 531 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: I do care what he thought. I just christ right, Well, 532 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: I think of your a really traditional person. That's really lovely. Absolutely. 533 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: I think, you know, like if that's something that would 534 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: matter to everyone involved and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, 535 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: and if it does, I think it's really nice. Yeah, 536 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: and I should thought it was very sweet. She said. 537 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: Her father really appreciated that's nice. He was really getting 538 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: in with the whole. Family's like, let me get in 539 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: with the fam. I would do this, right. I think 540 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: I thought you wouldn't, not that you wouldn't appreciate it, 541 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: but that you you wouldn't find it important. You're like, well, 542 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: you know, I can choose, so I want to marry. Yeah, 543 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I don't need dad's permission. No, 544 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't need that. I guess it's like a nice 545 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's funny that it's it's never framed really right. 546 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: I feel like it's it should be more talked about, 547 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: like this is a lovely chance for you to bond 548 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: like the father, because I know it's male bonding is 549 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: already so weird sometimes and with Dad's it can be 550 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: really awkward. It's just a nice time to sit down 551 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: and be like, I'm very serious about this person that 552 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: you raised and that you love, and I want you 553 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: to know that I'm I'm going to ask go to 554 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: marry me. I hope she says yes, and I hope 555 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: I want very excited to be part of your family. Like, yeah, 556 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: that would be better than like, I would like your permission, 557 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: give me the hand of your let's talk, Dowry exactly 558 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: what are you settling on her? Right? Right right? That 559 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: feels a little more. Yeah, I'm more like, uh, like 560 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: you said, like a bonding moment. It's nice, like let's 561 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: go golfing and talk about have a cigar, Yeah, Scotch, 562 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: Scotch and cigars or what a male stuff, guy stuff. 563 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: Here's some knives and how often let's go chop down 564 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: a tree together? I don't know so. In fact, actually 565 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: both sets of parents were fully on board for this 566 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: long distance digital love. I just says that she didn't 567 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: tell her parents right away, but they quote twigged there 568 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: was something going on when I was on the phone 569 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: all the time. I love twiggs. They twigged it. Oh no, 570 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: they twigaked it. I just I don't know what they 571 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: really twigged something with I have twigged before, and I 572 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: didn't know the word for it. So I'm glad that 573 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: I know this word now because this is an emotion 574 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: I couldn't express in these You get it right, It's 575 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: a very specific kind of knowledge. Yeah, our parents, of course, 576 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: we're a little worried about this, about this very non 577 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: traditional sort of relationship here about catfishing. Good to be 578 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: a skeptic. But they did talk with Darren on video, 579 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: and just right away they saw how crazy they were 580 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 1: for each other, and they understood that was something that mattered. 581 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: They fell in with real and real. Yeah. And of 582 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: course Darren's mother, Kendra, had started all this in the 583 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: first place. She knew I should before I shou knew Darren. 584 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: That's right, right, Yeah, that's how they met through his mom. 585 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: She even said, quote, it's funny that I met my 586 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: mother in law before I met my husband. I mean, 587 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,479 Speaker 1: pretty cool way to get there, I feel like. And 588 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: at first, you know, they did plan to wait until 589 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: they could have an in person ceremony. I think a 590 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: lot of people had this kind of back and forth, 591 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: probably especially in one when it was like, oh, vaccines 592 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: are coming out soon. It looks like maybe there's a 593 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: light at the end of this tunnel and I can 594 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: make it a make a plan um. But of course 595 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: variants started crying up. Travel restrictions were still in place, 596 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: or you know, kind of there was sort of a 597 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: doors open, doors closed, sort of a period of time 598 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: where you're not really sure where you could go anymore. 599 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: So they were kind of like, when are we going 600 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: to be able to do this and actually be together, 601 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: you and I like in the same place at the 602 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: same time. And then they read about a new law 603 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: that was passed in Utah making international virtual wedding ceremonies 604 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: legal in Utah. So they were like, well, let's just 605 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: do this, you know, let's why wait. So in August one, 606 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: they got married over zoom with a small number of 607 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: friends and family and attendance. Beautiful, perfectly legal digital marriage. 608 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: So even though their marriage with as fully armed and operational, 609 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: and even though the travel restrictions were lifted, they still 610 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: as of November, have not met in person because they 611 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: have to wait for as new visa to be accepted. Instead, 612 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 1: they still talk multiple times a day. I just said quote, 613 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: despite never meeting, there was no doubt in my mind 614 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: that I wanted to marry Darren. It's been really hard, 615 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: but in the long run, it will make us stronger 616 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: because we've had to go through all this to be together. 617 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: I think that's beautiful. I think it really shows how, 618 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, personality is the core of romance. I think, 619 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: like how you get along, how you converse, what your 620 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: chemistry is as as minds, you know, more so than 621 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: just as bodies together. But it's like, what's what's that 622 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 1: energy between your brains? Um? How do you express it? 623 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: You know? What do you like about each other? Like 624 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 1: your personalities? You know, big concern I've for me is, uh, 625 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: what if one of them smells? You know? But that's fixable. 626 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: You know, that's something you can work on. If you 627 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: meet and you're like, my god, what do you do 628 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 1: all day? You know, a lot of people don't know 629 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: what they smell like until someone tells them. So, well, 630 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: that's your biggest concern, you know. I think there is 631 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: some like biological something about pheromones, you know, where it's 632 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: not even something detectable that you smell. It's just like 633 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: there's just compatible ones. I guess, just like you get 634 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: in the energy of that pheromone, you're like, damn, whatever 635 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: you're putting down, I am picking it up. Never experienced 636 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: that I know of, butow, my pheromones are offended. I 637 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: just think you could do a good job of soaping 638 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: your pheromones off. I have a very clean guy. Yeah, yeah, 639 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: I think that's fine for me. I don't need I 640 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: don't need your stink to get into my brain and 641 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: convince me, oh, this is the one for me. I 642 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: don't need your musk. I'm perfectly happy with what ever 643 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: moisturizing body wash you've been scrublrself. But yeah, I think 644 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: it's cool that both in both of these relationships, you know, 645 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 1: they just had to really go through it. And we 646 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: we saw a lot of stories about, of course people 647 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: breaking up and divorcing because they were like, wow, I 648 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: can't spend all this time with you. It makes me 649 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: want to like dive off a bridge or whatever, and 650 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: like it's cool to be like, oh, I wanted to 651 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: talk to you for hours on end, and you know 652 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: it was only on my computer. It was all I 653 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: wanted to do is spend time with you. I think 654 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: that's a really strong foundation. I think so too. I 655 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: think there's still challenges ahead because you do still have 656 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: there is another adaptation that you're going to have to 657 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: come across, Like you are still going to have to 658 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: learn how to physically share space with each other. How 659 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: you know, we love talking for ten hours on the screen, great, 660 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: but at some point, even after ten hours, I shut 661 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: that laptop and I am completely independent. And you know 662 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: that can suck because you're alone. But also that's like 663 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: something you can't replicate once you share space with someone. 664 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: Every relationship has that in it, and we all learned 665 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: to adapt from it. But I wonder how much of 666 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 1: a challenge that will be going forward for people who 667 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: have fallen totally in love with each other but still 668 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: haven't experienced that element yet. Um. Certainly something that can 669 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: be easily overcome. Um. And I think as long as 670 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 1: you're aware of that going into it, then it probably 671 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: won't be a big deal. But I do wonder about 672 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: that probably being their greatest challenge moving forward, is uh, 673 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: that physical proximity that they haven't had, that they might 674 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: even be not considering or taking for granted the fact 675 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: that they spend so much time together digitally. Maybe Yeah, 676 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think any couple has that 677 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: that that cohabitation challenge or whatever, because a lot of 678 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: people I know we lived together for several years before 679 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 1: we were married, but some people don't, um, so they 680 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,439 Speaker 1: end up going, yeah, we've got to go out a lot, 681 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: or we spent the night maybe, but we never lived together. 682 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: And sometimes it does have a huge effect on you 683 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: have to definitely like communications really important obviously, but yeah, 684 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: you have to really give up a lot of your 685 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: stuff and you know, change the way you build your 686 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: space around yourself and everything. So that's a challenge for 687 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: us all. And we decidedly did not live together for 688 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 1: a while because we we had both lived with roommates 689 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: and when we are roommates were all kind of separating 690 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: at the same time, and we talked about, well is 691 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: this now? Is this when we move in together? But 692 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: we realized neither of us have ever really lived alone alone. UM, 693 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: so we wanted to do that before we moved in together, 694 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: and we did that for what a year and a 695 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: half two years. Yeah, I think it was good. It's 696 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: smart to do, totally smart. Yeah, it was nice to 697 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: be able to have that experience. And no, you could 698 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: do it if if it came down to it, and 699 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: that we were still building our relationship while having our 700 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: own private space. Yes, um, and so I think that's 701 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: what makes me think about this is like they are 702 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 1: building relationship digitally and they do have their private space 703 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: right now, but the next stage it's like jumping from 704 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: zero to one hundred. Yes, you know, well we we 705 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 1: don't live together, we're meeting on zoom. We got married 706 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: after a few months boom, now we share every day 707 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: in the same space. I'm not I think it'll be great. This, 708 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: Like you said, this kind of foundation is unlike any other. 709 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: They know their their their personalities so well that they 710 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: want to be together. Um. So I think it's going 711 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: to be great for them and they might love it 712 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: even more, like you know, like instead of feeling that 713 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: way of like oh now I have to like get 714 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: rid of my stuff for you want to put this 715 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: over here, and I want to put it over here. 716 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: Like they might really relish it so much that they're 717 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: together that it's like I'm loving having to figure this 718 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,959 Speaker 1: out with you and getting to hold your hand and 719 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: have you in my space. Like maybe it will be 720 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: something like just translate to more gratitude for that that proximity. 721 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: So however it goes, I hope it works out for 722 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: A and Darren definitely, and uh darn, we hope to 723 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: hear from them. I know that I don't know how 724 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: to contact random people and random places. Elizabeth was a journalist, 725 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 1: so it's not all easier. But yeah, if you hear 726 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: this right, and we will try and get an update 727 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 1: from Elizabeth as well and Enrique and see what's going 728 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: on with them. And you guys must have your own 729 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: stories about pandemic and your relationships. We all have them. 730 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: But if you've got something particularly strange and bizarre, something 731 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: really out there, I mean you and I, you know, 732 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: it's not that much change. We were already spent most 733 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: of our time at the house together, that's true, and 734 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: we started working together, so that was kind of like 735 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: we were went from not working together to always together 736 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,479 Speaker 1: lockdown to now working together in the house. No matter 737 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: how the rest of the world is doing anything that's 738 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 1: that wasn't interesting, But if you've got a story to share, 739 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: we would love to hear it, um, And we're going 740 00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: to come back in our next episode with something really excit. Yes, 741 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:06,240 Speaker 1: I'm so thrilled about this. Our next episode, we're actually 742 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: going to be talking to our dear friends Cherry and Jason. 743 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 1: That's our first non podcast host guests. But I'm so 744 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: excited to be chatting with them about their lockdown love 745 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: and they went through it. Yeah, they had pandemic. They 746 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 1: got married over zoom too and made it made it work. 747 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: So but yeah, it was really lovely to to get 748 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: to really get to the bottom of that story. And 749 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: they're fun, They're so funny. We love them as much 750 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: as we do absolutely, so tune into the next episode 751 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: for sure and check that we're going to talk with 752 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: them about a couple other stories too. It's going to 753 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: be a really fun time. Yeah, and thanks again to 754 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 1: Andrea for this idea. We had a really good time 755 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: looking for crazy pandemic stories. Absolutely, there's almost nothing more 756 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: ridiculous and romance than trying to make it work. In 757 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: times like these, everything is slightly more. It's very true. Um, 758 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 1: so tune in. Let us know what you think. We're 759 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: gonna go get some sun out. Yeah, and we will 760 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: catch you on the next episode. As always, please right in, 761 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: share your story, your ridiculous pandemic romance. Uh, let us 762 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: know what you thought about this episode, any episode, any 763 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: ideas you have in the future. Shoot us an email 764 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: Romance at iHeart media dot com right or we're on 765 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram. I'm at Dianamite boom and I'm at 766 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,720 Speaker 1: Oh great, it's Eli and the show is at radic Romance. 767 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,240 Speaker 1: It's right follow along, Hey, drop us a rating on 768 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,879 Speaker 1: on Apple Podcasts, drop us a rating on Spotify. We'd 769 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: love to hear that from you. Um, a couple of 770 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: reviews are always nice and uh, you know we love 771 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: you guys. You're the best, the best audience in the 772 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: whole damn world. Yeah, I'll fight about it, don't up. 773 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: We will choose absolutely, but today we would choose cool 774 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: side relaxation. So thank you all so much, and we 775 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: will catch it the next one. Hi, So long, friends, 776 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,760 Speaker 1: it's time to go. Thanks for listening to our show. 777 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 1: Tell your friends neighbor's uncle sandance to listen to a 778 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,240 Speaker 1: show ridiculous. Well, dance