1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: People ask us all the time how we can save 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: the next generation. 3 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 2: We've got our show and the info is an antidote. 4 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: But we also have a couple books coming out, Clay. 5 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: That's right, and you can pre order both of them 6 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: right now and be book nerds just like us. 7 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 2: You'll laugh, you'll nod, and you'll get smarter too. 8 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: Mine's called Balls, How Trump young men in sports saved America. 9 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: And mine is manufacturing delusion How the Left uses brainwashing, 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 2: indoctrination and propaganda against you. 11 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: Both are great reads. One might even say they would 12 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: make fabulous gifts. 13 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: Indeed, so do us a solid and pre order yours 14 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: on Amazon today. Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of 15 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 2: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, Continuing Government Shutdown edition. 16 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: And I got a lot of news to talking about today, 17 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: and we're going to be joined by a couple of 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: Senators to discuss some of it. Senator Ran Paul in 19 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: the second hour, Senator Ron Johnson in the third hour. 20 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: I am here in our nation's capital, so figure should 21 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: talk to some of the lawmens and legislators and people 22 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: making the decisions. And they have a little more time 23 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: on their hands because of this shutdown situation. We've also 24 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: got Trump weighing heavily on the National Guard deployment to Chicago. 25 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: He's got some choice Trump words. James Comy his trial. 26 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: I've got updates for you on that. I've also got 27 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 2: a well, some Pambondi hearing stuff that we can discuss 28 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: a little bit of. I just wanted to start with 29 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: this though. DC is absolutely lovely right now. It is 30 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: incredible being here now. Some of it might be the 31 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: increase in safety because of the Trump agenda, but just 32 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: hear me out, the government shutdown means that this city 33 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: is wide open. There's no one clogging the streets, the 34 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: roadways are wide open. You can drive anywhere. It is 35 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: a ghost town in all the best ways. So I'm 36 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: having a great time. I'm walking around the broad boulevards, 37 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: barely a soul in sight. The restaurants, you can get 38 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: a table anywhere. I can drive around. DC has among 39 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: the worst traffic congestion areas in the entire country. DC 40 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: is pretty much always a top five contender and often 41 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 2: a top three for the worst traffic. And you have 42 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of government workers who are currently on furlough, 43 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: not going into these massive federal buildings pushing a bunch 44 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: of paper around. So the city is great. I gotta 45 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: say this shutdown, it's a fantastic time to be in 46 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: this town and having some meetings with various stakeholders and 47 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: movers and shakers here, some of it off the record, 48 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: but it's interesting stuff that's going on, that much, I 49 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: can tell you. Some people are saying very interesting meetings, 50 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: very interesting for mister Buck. But yeah, I have to 51 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: check in on my people here in DC. Sometimes I'm 52 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 2: just saying it's a great time. But why should you 53 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: care that? 54 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 3: Well? 55 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 2: What do we need all these government workers for? If 56 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: everything seems fine without them going to their jobs. I 57 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 2: think it's a fair ask. Remember the Pentagon is still 58 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: going public safety. There's essential and non essential services in 59 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: this town, and the non essential includes a lot of 60 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: people who I think are remote remote workers anyway or 61 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 2: have been, and everything seemed to be functioning just fine. 62 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe if you have to wait in 63 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: line longer than normal, or you can't get into the 64 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: certain areas of a national park, you're upset. But for me, 65 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: walking around our nation's capital, it feels like the swamp 66 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: has been cleared. It's great, and I think that it's 67 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: a reminder that we have a massive and bloated federal 68 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: bureaucracy and if there are some changes made to that 69 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: as part of the shutdown, to me, that is a 70 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: good thing. That is a good thing. But yeah, I 71 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: think this is one of the You have perfect weather, 72 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: no bureaucrats, and you can drive anywhere here in this 73 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: town now in less than ten minutes. This is the 74 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: best version of DC I can remember. Right, This is great. 75 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: So I'm having a lot of fun here and I'm 76 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: down here of course, our in our DC iHeart studio. 77 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 2: All right. Now, with that said, we've got some updates 78 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: on a whole range of things. Oh, this is what 79 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 2: I was looking for when I started off the show. 80 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,679 Speaker 2: Katie Porter, we will discuss this. She's running for governor. 81 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: She's a congresswoman. She is not a particularly affable one 82 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: and may have done some real damage dur a campaign. 83 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: You're just gonna have to hear this exchange, but I 84 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: will play that one for you. Has gone megaviral. She 85 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: can be very nasty, kind of a nasty exchange with 86 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: a journalist who's trying to ask her some questions. So 87 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: we will get we will get to that as well, 88 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: Katie Porter situation. But as I had to mention to you, 89 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: we have as of this morning update here on the 90 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: James Comy trial. I believe it is going to be 91 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 2: happening January fifth. It is set for so that's pretty quick. 92 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: They're they're moving pretty fast on this one. And here 93 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: is Fox News is Bill Hammer. This is from this morning, 94 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: just with that breaking news and laying out some of 95 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: what's going on here for Sankta Komy play it. Here 96 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:33,239 Speaker 2: is the breaking news. 97 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 4: The former FBI director James Comby in front of a 98 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 4: judge moments ago and a hearing that we did not 99 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 4: think would last long. 100 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,119 Speaker 2: And apparently that is the case. 101 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 4: He has entered a plea of not guilty to two 102 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 4: charges federal level. Now are producers inside the courtroom say 103 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 4: the former director accused of lying to Congress obstructing a 104 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 4: congressional proceeding. End of the plea moments ago in front 105 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 4: of the judge Michael Knockmanoff appointed by Joe not guilty 106 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 4: on both federal charges. He's accused of lying in front 107 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 4: of Congress back in twenty twenty. 108 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: So that is the update inside the courtroom, so now 109 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: he's going to trial. One of the most hilarious arguments 110 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 2: against this that I keep seeing all over the place 111 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 2: from the Libs is, oh my gosh, the precedent that 112 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 2: has been set here. What would you do, Republicans if 113 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: people started to use prosecutors' offices as weapons of politics? 114 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 2: And to this you just want to say, have you 115 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 2: been asleep for the last decade? Do you have any 116 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 2: idea what has gone on with four different criminal cases 117 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: brought against Donald Trump, all of which were bogus civil 118 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: cases brought against Trump by the State of New York 119 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: in one case, and by a woman who claims from 120 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 2: thirty years ago, thirty something years ago, Trump grabbed her 121 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 2: in a department store. The stuff that they have done, 122 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: the lawfair they have done against Trump and his family 123 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: alone has done tremendous damage to the public's faith in 124 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: all of these different facets of our criminal justice system, 125 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: or just our justice system of the courts too, because 126 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: some of it was civil. This is atrocious. I mean, 127 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: the things that have gone on here, the precedents that 128 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: have already been set. Now they want to tell us 129 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: we should be worried about going too far in the 130 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: other direction. No, they already did this. In fact, what 131 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: they have done, what the Democrats have done specifically with 132 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: the targeted lawfair against Donald Trump, among many others. It's 133 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: really Trump and Trump world, everybody who is Trump adjacent 134 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: all the way to January sixth, defendants, right, it's the 135 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: whole Trump movement that they have used the prosecutor's office. 136 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: They have used lawfare as a tool as a weapon 137 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: to to ruin lives, to put tremendous pressure on people, 138 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: to financially drain them, to undermine them, to malign them, 139 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: to defame them. All of that they have already done. 140 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: They sent an FBI team tomorrow Lago and they went 141 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: through Malania's sock drawer. And libs want to lecture us 142 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: about James Comy, who allegedly lied under oath facing the music. 143 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, is there some special carve out for being 144 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 2: a six foot ten jerk who uses the law in 145 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: order to puff himself up and is part of his 146 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: own just malignant narcissism. Is there some carve out where 147 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: he doesn't have to actually face the music the way 148 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 2: that he has made so many others and I think 149 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 2: entrapped people and abuse the law, most notably General Flynn. 150 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 2: I like to fill in these gaps too, so no 151 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 2: one can say, well, you just said he's abusing, and 152 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: no I like to give you the specifics to remind everybody, 153 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: to remind everybody that James Comy thought it was funny 154 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 2: to use the Logan Act, which no serious human being 155 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: thinks anybody can or would be prosecuted under, as a 156 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 2: total pretext. It's like the equivalent of a swatting call. 157 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: It is a bad faith use of law enforcement to 158 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: go after the General Michael Flynn, the incoming National Security advisor. 159 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: I know it feels like that was a long time ago, 160 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 2: but there hasn't been Well maybe you don't feel that way, 161 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: but they'll say that, but there's been no justice for that. 162 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: That ambush hasn't been punished. And James Comy thinks that 163 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: he's a clever guy for the whole thing, and he 164 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 2: thinks that what was that book? I think was Higher Power? 165 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: Is that right? Higher power or something like that. I'm 166 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: now the real question you might ask is is James 167 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: Comy's book a more brutal read than Kamala is one 168 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: hundred and seven days. I cannot answer that question. Because 169 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: I haven't read Comy's book, but I will tell you 170 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 2: that is some if competition. That is, you know, Superman 171 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: versus Iron Man with the like the super suit. You know. 172 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: I mean, that is tough stuff, really really preposterous that 173 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: James Comy would think anybody would want to read his 174 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: memoir and on his book tour. But such as things are, 175 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: he is now facing the music and there's the possibility. 176 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: I think it's slim. I don't want to over promise 177 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: and under deliver. Ever on this show, I think it 178 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: is slim. But here's what I will tell that he 179 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: will actually be convicted because it's a it's a Northern 180 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: Virginia jury. I was just saying, how much fun, how 181 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: much fun DC is with no government bureacrats running around. 182 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: They all live in Arlington mostly, you know, they live 183 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 2: a lot of them inside or just outside of the Beltway. 184 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: It's going to be a very favorable pool for James Comy. 185 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: But here's why I view this is so important. The 186 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: message is received, whether Comy is found guilty or not, 187 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: the message is received that there will at least be 188 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 2: an effort to hold the other side to the law 189 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 2: and not create a system This is really important. A 190 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: system where we are held to an extra legal standard 191 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: and they are held to a sub legal standard, or 192 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: rather they get to break the law and get away 193 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: with it. Meanwhile, they get to prosecute us Trump for 194 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: not breaking the law, and we do nothing in response. 195 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 2: We have to at least establish that we will bring 196 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: charges against people who have been involved in this law 197 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: fair involved in using the government the deep state, however 198 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: you want to describe it, to take out people for 199 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: purely political reasons. Well, if they break the law in 200 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 2: that process, there will be some form of accountability. And 201 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: now there is going to be I think a pretty 202 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: high probability just based on the jury pool that calm me, 203 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: will be found. In my mind, he'll be found not guilty. 204 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: He'll be acquitted on this. But let's see, let's see, 205 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: it's a pretty straightforward thing. Did he lie or did 206 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: he not lie? Let's see what kind of case the process. 207 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: I know, I don't want to I don't want to 208 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: prejudge anything here. Let's see what is produced in that court. 209 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: You don't need to call me and say, buck, you're 210 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: already getting ahead of the cart before the horse here. 211 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 2: I know, but I just I like to manage our 212 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: expectations for where this is going. It's it's still a 213 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: steep climb. This is a little bit of ice skating 214 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 2: uphill here to think that James Comey is going to 215 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 2: actually be convicted. But the fact that the charge has 216 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: been brought alone sends a message we are not going 217 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 2: to just lie down and accept a two tiered system 218 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 2: of justice in this town, Washington, DC, or anywhere else 219 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 2: for that matter. And that is important. That is something 220 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 2: that we all have to recognize as a necessary step 221 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: because otherwise it's, you know, heads they win, tails we lose. 222 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: Did I do that one right? That's always always feel 223 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: like I'm gonna get that one. It's like Bush when 224 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: he's like fool me once, can't get fooled again. 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I've been warning people 263 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: for years about this comy guy, and I wish if 264 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: the president at the time had pulled me aside and 265 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: asked me early on in his first term, I would 266 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: have shared all you have to know about James Comy. 267 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: You would know from the way he acted with respect 268 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: to the Martha Stewart prosecution, a prosecution that nobody in 269 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: his office but him wanted to bring a prosecution for 270 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: which there was no crime, not even any money made 271 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: or lost. It was just the whole thing was absurd. 272 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: And Martha Stewart is a huge Democrat who does not 273 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: like Trump and does not like Republicans. And this is 274 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: just about what's what's fair and decent. It's not about politics. 275 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: But Komy really has always thought of himself as like 276 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: the high priest of the DOJ. So much of Komy, 277 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: I will tell you this, so much of Komy reminds 278 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: me of Fauci. Fauci is like the the you know, 279 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: the the Liliputian version of Komy. They have the same 280 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: person soonality type. They pretend it's all about the cause 281 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: of the institution, it's really all about them. And they 282 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 2: get this uh, this solyopsism word of the day, solepsism 283 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: from all of this, And you like that one. That 284 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: producer rally likes that one. And I'm not the only 285 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: one warning you about this guy, or have been warning 286 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: about this guy for a long time. The great Rush 287 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: Limbaugh back in twenty nineteen, he saw exactly who James 288 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: Comy was and also knew about his past, which we 289 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: should all be reminded of. Played two. 290 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: How many of you have heard or thought that James 291 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: call me was a lifelong Republican. I have I've always 292 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 3: thought that James call me was a lifelong Republican. I've 293 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 3: been told that James call Me as a lifelong Republican. 294 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: Turns out not to be true. Are you wearing of 295 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 3: James Comey used to be a Communist. In a two 296 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 3: thousand and three interview with New York Magazine, James call 297 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 3: Mey said before voting for Jamie Jimmy Carter nineteen eighty, 298 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 3: he'd been a communist. He admitted, I'd moved from communists 299 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: to whatever I am. Now now we know that John Brennan, 300 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 3: Obama's CIA director, was a communist, or at least had 301 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 3: voted for the Communist Party, But I. 302 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: Had never heard this about Komy. 303 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 3: Now we find out that under Obama, the CIA director 304 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 3: and the FBI director both had histories of not just flirtation, 305 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 3: but serious immersion into communism. And like the KGB always said, 306 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 3: no one ever leaves the KGB, nobody ever leaves this 307 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 3: way of thinking. 308 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 2: Isn't that interesting? You start to see how for some 309 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 2: of these individuals there was an ideological foundation of communism. 310 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 2: And these are people who are at the top of 311 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 2: the national security operat us in this country in recent years, communism, 312 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: and then they become some malleable chameleon in politics just 313 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: so they can weave their way through the bureaucracy. But 314 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 2: do you think they've ever really changed their collectivist foundation. 315 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 2: Rush didn't think that Komi had, or Brendan for that matter, 316 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 2: and he was right. He warned us about this, and 317 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: now perhaps there will be some accountability for the misdeeds 318 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: that were done. But we're not going to hold our 319 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 2: breath on Kmy. We're going to see. Look, as you know, 320 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 2: I've always been a big reader. I love books, that's 321 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: certainly true. I also like writing a lot, and when 322 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 2: I'm not on radio, I've been busy creating a weekly 323 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 2: e newsletter, something of real value if you care about 324 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: the markets and the big stories out there. We called 325 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 2: it Money in Power for reasons that'll become very obvious 326 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: when you subscribe. 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It's fabulous, you know. 346 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: I just put a little scarf on, you know, in 347 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 2: case it gets Chiley on the scooter and I go 348 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: Capitol Building, Georgetown, stop by the White House, High five, Steve. Look, 349 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 2: see how everybody's doing. That's the kind of day it 350 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: is over here. It's wonderful, wonderful. They have all the bureaucrats, 351 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 2: you know, jostling together, and you know, making the line 352 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 2: at Starbucks one hundred people long. None of that stuff. 353 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 2: This government shutdowns pretty nice, Pretty nice. So let's dive 354 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: into politics in California for a minute show we because 355 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 2: a lot of you have seen this. It's gone viral, 356 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 2: as you know. We have Steve Hilton on to talk 357 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 2: about his run for governor in that state. Gavin Newsom, Hey, everybody, 358 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 2: how you doing. He's turned out he is going to 359 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: run for president quite obviously, and he has to give 360 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: up his governor's mansion to whoever the next person to 361 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 2: win that contest is going to be. And it's looking 362 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 2: right now, at least on the Democrat side of things, 363 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 2: it's looking like Katie Porter is the likeliest to win. Now, 364 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 2: every state has different rules about how this stuff goes. California, 365 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: as I understand it, and some of you live there, 366 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 2: so you're gonna know this better than I do, has 367 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: like a top two situation, so you have all these 368 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 2: people that are gonna be running, and then the top 369 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 2: two vote getters are going to be in the general 370 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 2: election the ballot in November of twenty twenty six. I 371 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 2: think that's right. If it's wrong, my team will tell 372 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: me in a moment and I'll correct it. But I 373 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 2: think that's basically how it goes. But Katie Porter is 374 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: getting a lot of attention she probably did not want 375 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 2: right now. In fact, the newsweek headline here is Katie 376 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 2: Porter's chances of winning California governor election suffer blow. And 377 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: let's get into why that is. She sat down with 378 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: a journalist. She sat down with a journalist and had 379 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 2: the exchange team, can I do this actually, Producer Mike, 380 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: Let's do a little play pause here, right, So I'm 381 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: gonna play it. I'm gonna say, all right, let's pause 382 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: for a second here because this is a long one. 383 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 2: It's a couple minutes long. So I want to get 384 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: in and out of this SoundBite, but I want you 385 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 2: to hear the whole thing, because wow, Katie Porter comes 386 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 2: across as a really nasty and unlikable person and unprofessional. 387 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: So let's start this off. This is a CBS interview 388 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: with Julie Watts of CBS News California. Come on, it's CBS, 389 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 2: and this is communist broadcasting services like this, this is 390 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 2: not this is home team stuff, reporter, but if you 391 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: ask her real questions, she apparently doesn't like it. This 392 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: is how it goes play it. 393 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 6: What do you say to the forty percent of California 394 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 6: voters who you'll need in order to win, who voted 395 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 6: for Trump? 396 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 7: How would I need them in order to win? 397 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: A man? 398 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 6: Well, unless you think you're going to get sixty percent 399 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 6: of the vote, you think you'll get sixty percent? 400 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 8: All everybody who did not vote for Trump will vote 401 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 8: for you. That's what you're in a general election. 402 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 7: Yes, if it is me versus a Republican, I think 403 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 7: that I will win the people who did not vote 404 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 7: for Trump. 405 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 8: What if it's you versus another Democrat? 406 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 7: I don't intend that to be the case. 407 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 8: So how do you not intend that to be the case? 408 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 8: Do you? Are you going to ask them not to run? 409 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 7: You know, I'm saying I'm going to build the support. 410 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 7: I have the support already in terms of name recognition, 411 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 7: and so I'm going to do the very best I 412 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 7: can to make sure that we get through this primary 413 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 7: in a really strong position. 414 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: But let me be clear with you. 415 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 7: I represented Orange County. I represented a purple area. I 416 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 7: have stood on my own two feet and one Republican 417 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 7: votes before. That's not something every candidate in this race 418 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 7: can say if you're from a deep blue area, if 419 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 7: you're from LA or you're from Oakland, you don't have 420 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 7: an experience. 421 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 6: You just said you don't need those Trump voters, So 422 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 6: you asked me if I needed them to win, So 423 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 6: you don't. 424 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 7: I feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative. 425 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 8: What is your question? 426 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 2: The question is, oh, well, let's pause there for a second. 427 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: Let's pause there for a second because it's about to 428 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 2: get really good. Everybody. I want to keep you on 429 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: the edge of your seats. Argumentative, argumentative. I got to 430 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 2: tell you, as a conservative dealing with the media like 431 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: that's like a like a hiatsu massage. That's not argumentative, Like, 432 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: are you kidding me? That's she can't handle that, that's 433 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: getting her all. Oh, oh, you're just hearing the beginning 434 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: of Hurricane order unleashed. Here. Things are gonna get worse. 435 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: Keep playing it. 436 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 6: It's the same thing I asked everybody that this is 437 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 6: being called the empowering voters to stop Trump's power graph. 438 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 8: Every other candidate has answered this question this is not 439 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,719 Speaker 8: and I said, I support it. So and the question is, 440 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 8: what do you say to. 441 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 6: The forty percent of voters who voted for Trump. 442 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 7: Oh, I'm happy to say that. It's the do you 443 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 7: need them to win part that I don't understand. I'm 444 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 7: happy to answer the question. Answer the question as you 445 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 7: haven't written, and I'll answer. 446 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 6: And we've also asked the other candidates do you think 447 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 6: you need any of those forty percent of California voters 448 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 6: to win? 449 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 8: And you're saying no, you don't. 450 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 7: No, I'm saying I'm going to try to win every 451 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 7: vote I can. And what I'm saying to you. 452 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 8: Is that, well to those voters. Okay, so you I 453 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 8: don't want. 454 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 7: To keep doing this, I'm gonna call it thank you. 455 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, Hey, hit the pause button. Hit the pause button. 456 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 2: She can't handle that. What exactly is the look is? 457 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 3: There? 458 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 2: Is the reporter maybe or things getting a little lost 459 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 2: in translation here about the numbers. Looks she's a CBS journalist. 460 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: She's trying to you know, she could be doing like 461 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 2: sideline reporting for the NFL or something, and she happens 462 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: to be here with this politician who cares here she 463 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: is and she's trying to just she's just trying to 464 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,719 Speaker 2: do like a decent job. This is not a gotcha. 465 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 2: I know gotcha every time I used to go on CNN. 466 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 2: It was like an ambush and I had to fight 467 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: through it. I know what gotcha is like, This is 468 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 2: not gotcha. This is trying to just clarify a point. 469 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 2: But also you can tell Katie Porter has decided Congressman 470 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 2: Porter has decided to really you know, sink her teeth 471 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: into this, and uh, I think just comes across as ogrish, 472 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 2: if you will, I use that term people like that 473 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 2: one online ogrish as in befitting of an ogre. It's 474 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 2: not nice, not nice. The way she's acting here, not nice. 475 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: Keep playing it. 476 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 8: You're not gonna do the interview with them? 477 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 7: Nope, not like this. I'm not not with seven follow 478 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 7: ups to every single question you ask. 479 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 8: Every other candidate has. 480 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: I don't care. 481 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 8: I don't care. 482 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 7: I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation, which you 483 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 7: asked me about every year you on this list. And 484 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 7: if every question you're going to make up a follow 485 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 7: up question, then we're never going to get there and. 486 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 8: We're just going to circle around. 487 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 7: I ask the gable had to do this before ever. 488 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 8: You've never had to have a conversation to end in order. Okay, 489 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 8: but every other candidate has done this. 490 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 7: What part of I'm me. I'm running for governor because 491 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 7: I'm a leader, So I am going to make so. 492 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 8: You're not going to answer questions from reporters. Okay, why 493 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 8: don't we go through? 494 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 6: I will continue to ask follow up questions because that's 495 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 6: my job as a journalist, but I will go through 496 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 6: and ask these and if you don't want to answer, 497 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 6: you don't want to answer, so nearly every legislative. 498 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 7: I don't want to have an unhappy experience for you, 499 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 7: and I don't want this all on camera. 500 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 6: I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you either. 501 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 6: I would love to continue to ask these questions so 502 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 6: that we can show our viewers what every candidate feels 503 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 6: about every one of these issues that they care about. 504 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: Okay, isn't that amazing? Also notice the manipulation there. I'm 505 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: not a psychiatrists, so I'm not going to say that 506 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 2: has hints of maybe borderline personality disorder or causing a 507 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: problem and then saying right away that you're not the 508 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 2: one who wants to cause the problem that you just 509 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 2: cause you know, I'm not going to diagnose this, but 510 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 2: I can tell you this. There are people who could 511 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 2: strikes me as not a good moment for Katie Porter. 512 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: But let's if you want maybe you're saying, you know, 513 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: maybe she had a bad day. Uh, she wants to 514 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: be the governor of the fifth largest economy in the world. 515 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 2: You know, maybe we should just say look to the 516 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: record and get a sense as to what is the 517 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: real Katie Porter. Like, you know, anyone can have a 518 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 2: bad day, right, anyone can have a bad day. Maybe 519 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: you want to I mean, I don't particularly want to 520 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 2: take that position on this, but I want to bring 521 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: you this story from twenty twenty three, Representative Katie Porter 522 00:27:54,760 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: scalded ex husband's scalp with boiling potatoes. Documents I shall 523 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 2: read the former husband, a Representative Katie Porter said the 524 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 2: California Democrat frequently abused him verbally this is from The 525 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 2: New York Post, and through toys, books, and other objects 526 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 2: at him during their marriage, even pouring scalding hot mashed 527 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: potatoes on his head during a fight. According to divorce records. 528 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 2: Matthew Hoffman, who filed for divorce from Porter in twenty thirteen, 529 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 2: said a request for a restraining order dated April thirtieth 530 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 2: of that year that he was routinely called a bleeping 531 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: idiot and a bleeping incompetent by his rage prone spouse, 532 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: who also shattered a glass coffee pot on their kitchen 533 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: counter in March twenty twelve when she felt their house 534 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: wasn't clean enough. She's delightful, delightful. She would not have 535 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 2: let me have a cell phone because she said, quote, 536 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 2: your too bleeping dumb to operate it. 537 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 9: Wow. 538 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 2: When she gets angry, I'm quoting here. When she gets angry, 539 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 2: she will claw and scratch her arms and then say 540 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: to me, look what you made me do again. I 541 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: am not a psychiatrist, but google borderline personality disorder. Uh, 542 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: Google some of what's going on here, the creation of 543 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: the problem, and then the pretense ones you've created it 544 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: that you don't want drama. I'm the I'm not the 545 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 2: one starting the fire here. I don't want anyone starting 546 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: fires when you've thrown the gasoline all over the fire 547 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: you started. Now, I know, I know what the Democrats 548 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 2: would say here. They'd say, oh, but he retracted that, 549 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 2: and she ended up Oh you mean that his far 550 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: more powerful spouse and the very serious money interests aligned 551 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: behind her were able to get him to retract something 552 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: that he had already put it in a divorce proceeding 553 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 2: because they made him an offer he probably he couldn't refuse. Yeah, okay, 554 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 2: but that did happen. So he retracted those things. But 555 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: he said all those things in court documents and they 556 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 2: were on which I think is interesting. Again, I'm just 557 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 2: looking at the totality of evidence. Are we going to 558 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 2: say that Katie Porter had a bad day or were 559 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: we getting a window into this member of Congress who 560 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: wants to be the governor of California and from there 561 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 2: probably would see yourself as running for president. So I 562 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 2: think it's a pretty fair game to get into all this. 563 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: But you may say, Buck, divorce proceedings can get ugly. 564 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: I mean, who among us hasn't thrown boiling hot potatoes 565 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 2: at somebody in a fit of rage at some point, 566 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 2: Well all of you, I'm sure. But you know we're 567 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: trying to be generous here. I'm trying to take the 568 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 2: maximum benefit point of view for the ogrish Katie Porter, 569 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 2: the bullying Katie Porter here, and so that I would 570 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: then just say, well, clearly, she would have a lot 571 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: of people who would come forward who have worked with 572 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 2: her to speak to what an impeccable character she has. 573 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: What a kind and encouraging boss and mentor she is, 574 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 2: And for that, I bring you Politico Katie Porter and 575 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: the bad boss problem. Oh, hold on a second, this 576 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 2: isn't that at all. This is pretty bad quote. Some 577 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 2: former staffers have said that she is I'm trying to 578 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 2: find the quotes here basically deeply abusive and nasty and 579 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 2: prone to fits of rage and temper tantrums. And yeah, 580 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 2: it's abusive to staff, has a massive staff turnover problem. 581 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 2: Sixty five percent of her staff turned over during her 582 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 2: time there, and everyone basically says, at least that has 583 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 2: worked for her says that she's horrible and really mean. 584 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 2: So are we gonna put these data points together? I 585 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: think we should. I think we should. I don't think 586 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 2: we can do the benefit of the doubt thing anymore. 587 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 2: Between the scalding hot potatoes thrown at her ex the 588 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 2: staffers who say that she is a brutish and nasty woman, 589 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: and now this the rating of a reporter for nothing, 590 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 2: I mean it was. It was a nothing burger and 591 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 2: she was not having it. So I just think that 592 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 2: everybody in California should know. And my broader lesson on 593 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 2: this is somehow the really nasty people in politics, I mean, 594 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: the really nasty people in politics are always Democrats. I'm 595 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: not saying there aren't people on the Republican side that 596 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: can be a little slimy and you know not, but 597 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: if you're talking about somebody who's really an abusive son 598 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 2: of a gun situation, you know, Democrats, there's a reason 599 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 2: for that. I know they want to say it's a 600 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 2: both sides thing, but it's not a both sides thing. 601 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: And in fact, most of the Republicans that I know 602 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 2: on the hill, and I know many of their staffers, 603 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 2: their staffers all say they're fantastic people and they really 604 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 2: look up to them. That's very common, very common. I 605 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 2: don't I mean, I don't hear that. I hear stuff 606 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: about the Democrats. Oh you're like buck Well. Who else 607 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe Amy Klobershar of a senate as 608 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 2: Senate fame who is famous for eating her salad with 609 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 2: a comb and throwing things at staffers. Yeah, true stories. 610 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 2: Those are the allegations, at least allegations throwing things at staffers, 611 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 2: eating salad with a comb. You know, do you have 612 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 2: any I don't know any Republicans who eat salad with 613 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: a comb and throw and throw things at their staffers. 614 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 2: I'm just saying I do not know of that happening, 615 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 2: so if you do, please call in and tell me. 616 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: All right, Look, Israel represents the only true democracy in 617 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 2: the Middle East. They've been a steady ally of the 618 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 2: US since nineteen forty eight, particularly when we needed friends 619 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 2: in that part of the world. Israel is also home 620 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: to the Jewish people, same people with a rich history 621 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 2: that has benefited Christians alike for centuries. If you're of 622 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 2: the Christian faith, you likely had a Bible lesson or 623 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 2: who that tells the story of the Jewish people, and 624 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 2: you read or heard the words emphasizing the care and 625 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: protection of looking after those that are Jewish, God's chosen people. 626 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: Many Christians in America are standing with Israel this month 627 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 2: by participating in a growing movement created by the International 628 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 2: Fellowship of Christians and Jews. It's called Flags of Fellowship. 629 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 2: This country wide effort, the Flags of Fellowship, unites churches 630 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 2: across America planning over one million Israeli flags across our 631 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 2: land show the world that Israel is not alone. To 632 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 2: get more information about how you can join the Flags 633 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: of Fellowship Movement. Visit IFCJ dot org. That's IFCJ dot org. 634 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 5: You don't know what you don't know, right, but you 635 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 5: could on the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck Bodjazz. 636 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 2: Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We are 637 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 2: joined by Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky. Senator Paul, always 638 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 2: appreciate you making time for us today. 639 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 9: No problem, Thanks for having me. 640 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 2: Government shutdown so far, I gotta say it's pretty nice 641 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 2: walking around the streets of DC. I know that's a 642 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 2: very basic view of things, but government seems to be 643 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 2: working reasonably well for a so called shutdown. What is 644 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 2: as as you see it, at issue today? Why have 645 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: we seen no progress in the Schumer shutdown negotiations? 646 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 9: Well, I think the great irony of this situation is 647 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 9: that every Democrat in the Senate and every Democrat versally 648 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 9: in the House as well, voted for these spending levels 649 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 9: in December of last year. So this continuing resolution has 650 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 9: spending levels that were actually set under Biden. These are 651 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 9: the Biden spending levels, and every Democrat has previously voted 652 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 9: for them. The reason they're not voting for them now, 653 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 9: at least according to the Democrats is, well, we want 654 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 9: to renew these temporary Obamacare subsidies. Well, that's moving the goalpost, 655 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 9: because these people have all voted for the spending bill 656 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 9: before and it doesn't include the Obamacare subsidies, never has 657 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 9: And the reason the Obamacare subsidies are expiring is because 658 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 9: that's the law that the Democrats wrote. They wrote them 659 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 9: to be temporary because they were trying to cram a 660 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 9: lot of spending into a reconciliation bill and the only 661 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 9: way they could do it was to make things temporary. Really, 662 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 9: this is all on the Democrats, and eventually they will 663 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 9: fold and they will vote to reopen the government. 664 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 2: Now, why are the if you could dig into this 665 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 2: a bit, Senator Paul, why are these subsidies for Obamacare 666 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: both so important to Democrats and so necessary? 667 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 9: Well, you know, the argument with Obamacare when it started, 668 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 9: you know, background twenty ten, was that it was going 669 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 9: to keep healthcare insurance prices from going up and make 670 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 9: health care more affordable. It turns out, if you look 671 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 9: at healthcare insurance prices, they've gone up ever since. There's 672 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 9: been no slowdown in the increase in healthcare prices. In fact, 673 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 9: when you subsidize something, you're increasing the demand for it. 674 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 9: You actually are, in all likelihood increasing the price of things. 675 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,479 Speaker 9: But they haven't been successful. These Obamacare subsidies aren't really 676 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 9: going for the poor. They're actually going to relatively rich 677 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 9: people now. And like I say, they were brought in 678 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 9: by the Democrats during the pandemic. They were said to be, oh, well, 679 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 9: people are having a tough time to the pandemic. We're 680 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 9: going to give them extra money. The real problem, though, 681 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 9: that nobody discusses around here, is there is no money 682 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 9: to give these people. I mean, the money literally has 683 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 9: to be borrowed from China or printed up by the 684 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 9: subtle Reserve. We're two trillion dollars short with the current 685 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,479 Speaker 9: levels of welfare and warfare, frankly, and we're two dollars 686 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 9: short a year. Where's the money come from. It's the 687 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,760 Speaker 9: best to be borrowed. 688 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, well with gold that I think four thousand dollars 689 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 2: announced now. I mean, I think people are starting to 690 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 2: see that the printing press is very much in use unfortunately. 691 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 2: And I wanted to know if you could also look 692 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 2: into or explain to us a little bit, Senator Paul, 693 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 2: the argument over whether some of this funding or whatever 694 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 2: the portion may be, makes it to subsidize care for illegals. 695 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 2: You're an MD as well as a senator, so you 696 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 2: have a particular insight into this. What is the truth 697 00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:58,879 Speaker 2: of that. 698 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 9: Well, it's confusing in the sense that we do have 699 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 9: many laws that say welfare is not supposed to go 700 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 9: to illegal aliens, but we also have laws that they 701 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 9: illegal aliens aren't supposed to vote either, and we know 702 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 9: for a fact that illegal aliens are The most recent 703 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 9: prominent case of them voting was a guy that was 704 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 9: that superintendent from Des Moines who was here in the 705 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 9: country illegally and registered to vote and voting in Maryland 706 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 9: and had been for some time. So we know that 707 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,439 Speaker 9: the states, particularly the Democrats states that have very lax 708 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 9: rules California and others, they just don't really police the 709 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 9: situation all. So we do know that illegal people illegally 710 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 9: in the country are voting. We also know that they're 711 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 9: receiving healthcare as well. So in legislation then previously passed 712 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 9: by Republicans, language was explicitly put in to say it 713 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 9: cannot and should not happen, and the Democrats are trying 714 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 9: to repeal that language now and try to make it 715 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 9: such that states could make the decision to get of 716 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 9: welfare and you know, voting privileges to illegal aliens. 717 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 2: Senator Paul, this isn't the first. I think this is 718 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,280 Speaker 2: the eleventh shutdown, right, but this isn't your first rodeo 719 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,439 Speaker 2: with this. And I think in the past what has 720 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 2: been at least a narrative the media pounds, whether it's 721 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 2: really fair or true or not, is Oh, the Republicans 722 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 2: are being blamed. This is going to hurt Republicans politically. 723 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 2: I'm certainly not seeing that. And I don't think whatever 724 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 2: data that can be trusted on this, to the degree 725 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 2: can be trusted, shows that. What is the as you 726 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 2: see it for the Democrats I'll speak to specifically if 727 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,720 Speaker 2: you can speak to it, maybe on just the Senate side. 728 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 2: What is their calculation here? Why have they decided that 729 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 2: this is the hill they want to fight on. 730 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 9: I think they're miscalculated. They also, I think the Republicans 731 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 9: have not hit them hard enough yet. I mean the Republicans, 732 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 9: I'm about the only one I hear reminding people that 733 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 9: the Democrats all voted to these spending levels nine months ago. 734 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 9: They're the exact same spend levels. The one reason Republicans 735 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 9: don't bring this up is Republicans used to be critical 736 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 9: of the Biden spending levels, but now the Republicans are 737 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,399 Speaker 9: all voting for the spending levels. That's why I'm really 738 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 9: the only Republican voting against not only the Democrats spending levels, 739 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 9: but voting against the Republican levels because they incurred a 740 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 9: deficit this year of about two trillion and are projected 741 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 9: to incur a deesit next year of about two point 742 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 9: one trillion. So I think both parties are terrible in 743 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 9: the deficit. I'm voting against both the Republican and the 744 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 9: Democrat plan because the one thing that is bipartisan up 745 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 9: here is spending money we don't have. 746 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 2: We're going to be at forty trillion then in this 747 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 2: debt really soon. And you know, Elon Musk came in 748 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 2: with DOGE, and there seemed to be this moment in time, 749 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 2: Senator where there was at least the beginnings of a 750 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 2: willingness to do something about this. It does not look 751 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,439 Speaker 2: like that has really to come to fruition. And maybe 752 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 2: that's putting it too gently that we're even trying to 753 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 2: turn the spending curve around do you think that there 754 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 2: will be I know the White House has spoken about this, 755 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 2: some substantial trimming of federal employees that will occur during 756 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 2: the shutdown. How does that work? 757 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 9: We know those did a lot of good things. I 758 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 9: was a big supporter Elon Musk and the things he 759 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 9: brought to government. We did end up voting on two 760 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 9: recision packages or one, but then they did one as 761 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 9: a pocket recision, and so about twelve billion and four 762 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 9: and aid was reduced. You know, I've been championing reductions 763 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 9: in foreign aid for a decade here and introduced over 764 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 9: thirty five bills to do it. This is the first 765 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 9: time we've done it since I'm here. But the problem 766 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 9: is the Continuing Resolution that Republicans have put forward spends 767 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 9: at the currently appropriated levels for four and aid that 768 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 9: doesn't include the twelve billion dollars in cuts. So basically, 769 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 9: if they passed the continuing Resolution that Republicans want everybody 770 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 9: to vote for now, it'll let the four and aid 771 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 9: back in it. And so if you want to get 772 00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 9: rid of four and eight again, we will have to 773 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 9: do the same thing again next year. So taking away 774 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 9: the twelve billion that didn't become the new baseline. It's 775 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 9: not a lower baseline for four and eight. They're going 776 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 9: back to the original one with this continuing resolution. So 777 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 9: another reason not to be too excited about what the 778 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 9: Republicans have put forward is that we're going to start 779 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 9: all over again with the things that does put forward 780 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,399 Speaker 9: and the recision packages. We have to do it again 781 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:21,919 Speaker 9: next year. 782 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 2: Do you think there's any realistic scenario where there's a 783 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 2: willingness on the Republican side to make what has to 784 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 2: happen for real cuts to be made. I mean, I 785 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 2: feel like we've been talking about this, you have, I 786 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 2: have a lot of everybody listening now talking about this, 787 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 2: going back to the origins of the Tea Party. So 788 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 2: this is looking like what fifteen years of When are 789 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 2: we going to make cuts? The debt is too high? 790 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 2: The debt is too high. We just discussed that it's 791 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 2: going to be at forty trillion dollars. When do we 792 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 2: decide to do something about this or is it just 793 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 2: a waste of discussion at this point because we haven't 794 00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 2: suffered the economic fallout from our profligate spending, is going 795 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 2: to do anything about it? 796 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 9: Well, the lay of the land is this, there are 797 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 9: no Democrats that will vote to cut one penny of 798 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,879 Speaker 9: one dollar of federal spending. On the Republican side, there's 799 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 9: a lot of lip service. But when I presented my 800 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 9: Penny Plan budget, which would balance over five years. I 801 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 9: did this two weeks ago, thirty six Republicans supported it. 802 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 9: Now that's the high water mark. That's the most I've 803 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,800 Speaker 9: gotten before. But it also means that I think about 804 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 9: sixteen Republicans do not support it. These sixteen Republicans often 805 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 9: are the leaders of the spending committees, the appropriations committees, 806 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 9: and so there isn't a desire among them really to 807 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 9: cut spending. And so until we have a Republican majority 808 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 9: and a majority of those Republicans are willing to cut, 809 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 9: we don't get anywhere. It also doesn't help when people say, well, 810 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 9: we're not going to look at Social Security or Medicare 811 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 9: and Medicaid. We'll do it sometime in two or three 812 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 9: years from now. We'll make the date in the future. 813 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 9: All of these things, when you take them off limits, 814 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 9: and you don't do anything to food stamps, if you 815 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 9: take all of these entitlements off the table, you really 816 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 9: need there isn't enough waste in TRAUD to cut to 817 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 9: actually balance the budget. 818 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 2: Well, what do we have to do? I mean, is 819 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,879 Speaker 2: this turning into the entitlements discussion again, which nobody wants 820 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 2: to touch. 821 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 9: And it's about elections. You need more hardcore people. I 822 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 9: think the people out there, you know that I meet 823 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 9: as I travel a country, they are ready to cut spending. 824 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 9: They are ready for more significant cuts, and they're ready 825 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 9: for somebody who'd introduce a balanced budget. So I think 826 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 9: if my penny planned budget were surveyed among the public, 827 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 9: among the Republican public, I think you'd get ninety percent 828 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 9: of the vote, you know. But up here I'm getting 829 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 9: about sixty percent of the Republicans for it. So really, 830 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,879 Speaker 9: the Republicans up here are all getting the message. They 831 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 9: need to get the message that the debt is a 832 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 9: real problem and it's time to start cutting spending. But 833 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 9: a lot of them haven't got that message yet. 834 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 2: How long do you think this shutdown is going to last? 835 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 2: And is it a big deal to you? Whether it 836 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 2: goes for another day or another two weeks, does it 837 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,720 Speaker 2: really make much difference? How do you see that The rumor. 838 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 9: Is that the Democrats have a left wing socialist rally 839 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 9: in DC this weekend, and they're afraid of their left wing, 840 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 9: they're afraid of the socialists, and so they have to 841 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 9: show they're putting up a fight for the Obama the 842 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 9: free stuff, the Obamacare free subsidies. So the rumor is 843 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 9: they will fight through the weekend and then give in. 844 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 9: Next week, they'll give in because there'll be some sort 845 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 9: of public public promise that will negotiate on the subsidies. 846 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 9: And frankly, there probably are fifteen Republicans that will vote 847 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 9: to increase or keep the Obamacare subsidies. They don't care 848 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 9: that it has to be borrowed, they don't care that 849 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 9: it's more big government. So what will happen is all 850 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 9: the Democrats will be for that fifteen or twenty Republicans 851 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 9: will vote with them, and big government always wins. But 852 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 9: I think the public's getting increasingly frustrated with it. So 853 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 9: there's going to be a time at which the public 854 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 9: is going to say, let's you know, let's throw some 855 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 9: of the bums out. 856 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 2: Why do we need subsidies if Obamacare makes healthcare cheaper, 857 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 2: that seems to be a conundrum. Center. 858 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, one of the things we could do, and I've 859 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 9: proposed this for years now, I proposed that we let 860 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:20,399 Speaker 9: people consumers, people who buy health insurance, let them bargain collectively. 861 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 9: What I mean by that is, if you belong to Costco, 862 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 9: there are forty four million members of Costco. If Costco 863 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 9: were to buy your insurance for you, my guess is 864 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,359 Speaker 9: Costco can get a better price than you can individually. 865 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 2: If my wife could buy her insurance from Costco, by 866 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 2: the way, it would have happened yesterday if she loves Costco. 867 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 2: So keep going. 868 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 9: And the rule that's keeping us from doing this is 869 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,840 Speaker 9: a federal rule that says you can buy insurance with 870 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 9: a group if you all have to be in the 871 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 9: same employment. You have to be ditch stickers or carpenters 872 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 9: or welders. You can buy your insurance together, but you 873 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 9: can't be in multiple different employment, which is a really 874 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 9: dumb rule. And last Trump administration, I got him to 875 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 9: do an executive order. It was challenged in court. But 876 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 9: I have a bill that would do this. It would 877 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 9: change what's called the Arissa law, and it would let 878 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 9: anybody wants to join any group by insurance. And then 879 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 9: what you'd have is you'd have a head of this 880 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,840 Speaker 9: cost codes health insurance buying would sit down with a 881 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 9: head of the big insurance companies and you'd really get 882 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,879 Speaker 9: a much better price. And so that's the one thing 883 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 9: you could do that is a market phenomenon. It's a 884 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 9: way of injecting the market that actually would bring down 885 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 9: health care costs. 886 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,839 Speaker 2: Senator rand Paul always appreciate you, sir, Thanks for making 887 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 2: the stop today with us. 888 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 9: Thanks for having me. 889 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 2: It was a time when dinner was more than just 890 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 2: a meal. It was the hour every day when family 891 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 2: came together. Actually, you know what I'm gonna tell you 892 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 2: something right now. 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