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Gentlemen, 18 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: the val Ellis and Crystal Hayes. 19 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 3: Let welcome. 20 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: For first of all, I want to slut y'all for 21 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: getting here because listen traffic. 22 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: And they had to pat everybody down there to walk 23 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: the middle of Detective. 24 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 5: Was like, I got to get there. 25 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 6: It's like, what, I'm from New York, so this was 26 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 6: easy for me. I was like, walk down fifty fifth 27 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 6: We'll get there. 28 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 5: Just two. 29 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, Season four. 30 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, crazy Yes, two episodes in obviously the season 31 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 7: air September eleventh. Yes, Tima, yes, the team absolutely, my bad. 32 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 7: I'm going straight because so all right, I want to 33 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 7: know why the storylines don't add. 34 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: Up between Sisters, Joe, break down what's happening first for people? 35 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 8: All Right, y'all, y'all, go ahead and break it down. 36 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 6: So this is the biggest thing. This is a six 37 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 6: month gap in between the Tima and Sisters. And this 38 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 6: is what when people try to understand the show, I explained, 39 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 6: like this, Sisters was about the four sisters and now 40 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 6: the fifth. Zach's character was an ancillary character. He was 41 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 6: an antagonist to Karen and then he became Fatima's love interests. 42 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 6: So Zatima is the story about Zach and Fatima, and 43 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 6: Sister is about what Zach was when he was with Karen. 44 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 6: So there's like a six month gap in between. So 45 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 6: when you watch the show simultaneously, you like, it don't 46 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 6: make sense. She's pregnant in one she's not pregnant. Different storylines, 47 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 6: different timelines. So Sisters is ahead, So when you see Zach, 48 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 6: know the team is ahead Sisters. 49 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: When Zack is acting crazy. 50 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 6: He seemed like he ain't go through therapy yet because 51 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 6: he hasn't on Sisters. That's why Zach on the Team 52 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 6: is a lot more calm. 53 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: He's been through therapy, comes back catch up. 54 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 9: You need to. 55 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 8: Because we've been talking about that. We gotta jump. 56 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 10: There needs to be a time jump somewhere so that 57 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 10: because it's the same audience, you know, so it needs 58 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 10: to be cohesive. 59 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 5: Why did he write it? 60 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: Sometimes? 61 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 6: I think you do for he wrote he shows it 62 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 6: one time. But I think he had a plan for 63 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 6: the team. I think he wanted it to be his 64 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 6: own thing. He wanted to be separate. I don't think 65 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 6: he expected to be honest. I don't think he expected 66 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 6: Sisters to be on TV for this long. I we've 67 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 6: done ten seasons already. Yeah, we've done two seasons already 68 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 6: in six years. Like if you think about that's a 69 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 6: lot of television. 70 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: You don't stop. 71 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 3: He's still going. 72 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 9: But to have something on TV for six years and 73 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 9: people are locked into the Sisters, Yeah, and they also 74 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 9: are like caught audience about the team. 75 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's so true. 76 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, even the Andy situation, even a yeah, I don't 77 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 7: want to give up, you know, the way. But it's 78 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 7: like on Sisters, I mean, well, what on the teamer right, 79 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 7: how she was jealous because the team of getting all 80 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 7: of she was getting all attention from the NFL players, 81 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 7: you know, help with the contracts and everything. 82 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: She ain't getting no attention. 83 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: But on you know, on the other show. 84 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 7: You know, she Andy saved, I mean Zach saved Andy's life, you. 85 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 8: Know what I mean? 86 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: When no, it's that's both the same show. This is 87 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: why it's confusing. 88 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 6: But going to your point exactly, people are confused because 89 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 6: the two shows at the same time, and Andy was 90 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 6: first like her homie, but now Fatima moving up. She 91 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 6: was the girl who was the assistant, and she was 92 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 6: the one that was behind the scenes. But now she's 93 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 6: about to get her law degree, and I think Andy 94 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 6: is a little bit jealous. 95 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit like what you don't 96 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: got time to do the stuff I want you to do. 97 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 8: Because what she's working on is like really big. 98 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 10: It's the case for Karen, that's and the doctor and 99 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 10: how he's mishandling women in labor, So it's what she's 100 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 10: working on is very important. I think Fatima is just 101 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 10: getting caught up and actually growing and what she has 102 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 10: going on and seeing like, wait, this is my chance. 103 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 7: And it's real relatable because you do got real situations 104 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 7: like that with groups and things like that. Do y'all 105 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 7: have friends that hit y'all outside the show, like, yo, 106 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 7: I went through that or right now at work? 107 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 8: Absolutely? Yes, No, Absolutely. 108 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 10: I feel like every season there's something, whether it's a 109 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 10: friend or a fan that stops us and says I'm 110 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 10: going through that right now or I've been through that. 111 00:04:58,960 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 8: It's so relatable. 112 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: For sure. 113 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 6: I got two close friends that got three baby mothers 114 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 6: who was just like Zach's story. 115 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 3: And I have a friend particularly who. 116 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 6: Broke up with his girl, got back with her, she 117 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 6: got pregnant, and then it was like, dang, my new 118 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 6: girl is pissed because my old girl is playing. And 119 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 6: they still worked it out. Like the new girl and 120 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 6: the old girl. They found a way to co parent together. 121 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 6: Because not everybody is toxic. Some people find ways to 122 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 6: make things work. So a lot of people are like, yo, 123 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 6: watching y'all go through this was my life. 124 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,679 Speaker 5: You always say to yourself, Man, we didn't new stories. 125 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 4: You know how back in the day, our parents can 126 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 4: watch the watch my story. 127 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 10: Said crazy Primetime soap opera. Yeah, it's crazy. People tune 128 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 10: in every week just like our grandparents did every day. 129 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: Grandparents, mamas, dead, my watch my children and. 130 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 8: Be mad at you'll. 131 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 3: I'll be mad at y'all. Sometimes I'll be like, man, 132 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: I hope they don't even come up a little bit today. 133 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: Because you get over people give it a minut fingering 134 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: the street all the time. 135 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 6: Make it different both shows because Zach's character is very divisive. 136 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 6: He was written to be an antagonist to these ladies. 137 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 6: So when people be like, he get on my nerves, 138 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 6: that's what he was to do. But when they see me, 139 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 6: they just I can't stand you. I'm like that, I'm 140 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 6: doing my job. And then as a Tima, he still 141 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 6: has the same remnants, so he does stuff to Fatima 142 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 6: that even when I'm reading it, I'm like, I would 143 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 6: never in broad life as a man do this, But 144 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 6: then I have to justify it in my mind to 145 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 6: act it out on television and people be like, I 146 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 6: just can't stand you on that show. 147 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, the people you to decide to start asking 148 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: you questions, but like, why would you do that? 149 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 6: Like it's really or do you answer in character? Yes, 150 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 6: even just not right, I'm defending Fatima. I'm like, Andy 151 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 6: is jealous because I literally went. 152 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 3: Back into it. 153 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 6: But when you step back and think about it, like 154 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 6: she's supposed to be supporting a woman doing a job 155 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 6: that's supposed to be supporting black women, and she's not. 156 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 6: Fatima's wrong in that situation. But Zach, don't see that 157 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 6: Andy jealous. That's the way exact said. So when I 158 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 6: talk to people, I talked to him like it's the stories, Yeah, exactly, 159 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 6: do what you want to do. I don't give a 160 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 6: f of you man. And they be like, I can't 161 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 6: believe you act like this. I'm like, that's my character, baby. 162 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 7: And I'm gonna give you the utmost, perhaps because you 163 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 7: are not even a mom, but the way you are 164 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 7: carrying on like baby mama, all of that, Like you 165 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, give me the tamping the channel 166 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 7: because I know you are god mother, you you have 167 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 7: beautiful children in your life. But what did you did 168 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 7: you call up Kadeen? Like, look, how was you acting while. 169 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 8: I was around? 170 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 10: I saw how Yeah, when she was pregnant with Dakota. 171 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 10: My sister recently had a daughter and my brother just 172 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 10: had a son. 173 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,239 Speaker 8: So I've seen it while they were pregnant. 174 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 10: We've been on vacation, so I like, I study everybody 175 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 10: in the movies, how they get up, how they walk, and. 176 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 8: It's so crazy. 177 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 10: I had to go get re aligned after that season 178 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 10: because of like pushing up. 179 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: With one I got to get into it. 180 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: Regular. 181 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I had to. I had my first. 182 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 10: Of all, the prosthetic belly is so heavy and then just. 183 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 8: Like getting up and pushing like with one arm. 184 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 10: How pregnant mother would I can't imagine like the pain 185 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 10: that they're really in carrying a babe months and then 186 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 10: like that it was bad. 187 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 8: My back was all jacked up and shoulder. 188 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 7: So you're still good with being the rich and see 189 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 7: in real life? 190 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 8: You absolutely? I love it the power of. 191 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 5: Acting, right, is it true yourmothers? Yes? 192 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 8: Yes, I got to see while she was pregnant. 193 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 10: That was the latest ones that I actually got to 194 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 10: see to watch and study how they move. 195 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 9: How I was going to ask, how did how well 196 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 9: does that? How sorry, how well does that work for 197 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 9: you guys on screen? Like because you have a real 198 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 9: life relationship, but also when does it hurt that you 199 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 9: have a real life relationship and you guys are working together. 200 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 10: Oh what scene was the season was that? This is 201 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 10: one of Now I'm getting mixed up with show. 202 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 3: It was. 203 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 8: It was a season where we were really at odds. 204 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: Season two of was the Tima. 205 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, so we couldn't even like talk like in real life. 206 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 6: I remember season season two we actually got into an 207 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 6: argument because we weren't talking. 208 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: We're very close, like her and her and my wife 209 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 3: are close. 210 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 6: Me and her are close. We talk like every single day. 211 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 6: We're doing season two. I'm getting into Zach mode and 212 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 6: Zach's not feeling Fatima. So I'm not texting, I'm not calling. 213 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: We not talking. 214 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: N Man. 215 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 3: She's just like, Yode, what's up? And I'm just like, 216 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 3: what's up? 217 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: Don't what's uping right now? 218 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 8: I don't know. 219 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 6: We was really having conversations. I was like, listen in 220 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 6: order for me to go to my job. Because people 221 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 6: don't understand this too. 222 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 8: I remember this. 223 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 6: We filmed twenty We filmed twenty episodes in ten days. Jesus, 224 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 6: So how am I supposed to be happy, go lucky 225 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 6: in one minute and then be angry? And in this 226 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 6: season was when I found out that my mom and 227 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 6: my brother was going through drug stuff. I talked about 228 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 6: my dad and I was going through therapy. I had 229 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 6: to cry like every other scene. So I was really 230 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 6: just in a bad place and a lot of time 231 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 6: people don't realist with actors. You wear that when you 232 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 6: walk around, Like when I'm in a bad place as 233 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 6: Zach and I gotta go do something. Sometimes the remnants 234 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 6: come out. Sometimes I have to apologize to people like 235 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 6: my fault, like I don't mean that. And in that 236 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 6: situation it was like that, you know, we got into 237 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:07,599 Speaker 6: an argument and I said, ya, I don't think I 238 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 6: can do this number. 239 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 3: I can't do this no more. She's like, what you mean? 240 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 3: And I was like, it's just a lot. It's heavy 241 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 3: to me this character. 242 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 5: So you're a method actor for real? 243 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 10: For real? 244 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 3: Surely? Yeah, man, Like the last couple of years has 245 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: been a lot. I did another project with Courtney where 246 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 3: my character went through a lot. I lost my daughter. 247 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 3: Oh shout out to old gray Man. 248 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 6: And I had to do press while filming and I 249 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 6: broke down in an interview. As matter of fact, it 250 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 6: was the essence interview where I broke down and I 251 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 6: was like, I'm tired, I'm exhausted. Yeah, I just come 252 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 6: off of filming Old Gray Maynor where I lost my 253 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 6: daughter in a tragic accident. So I really was just 254 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 6: exhausted mentally, and I'm doing an interview and I was tired, 255 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 6: and I broke down, and. 256 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 3: People like, DN, what is it going through? Yeah, And 257 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, I was going through it, but I was 258 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: in character, so m I and. 259 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask. 260 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: So when you have that, when you shoot ten days 261 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 2: and you in character that long, do you not go home? 262 00:10:58,480 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: You're be like, babe, I'm just gonna get a hotel now. 263 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 6: I stay on campus, stay on campus, and we lock in. 264 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 6: Because even my kids don't like seeing me like that. 265 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 6: Like I'm auditioning for projects now, I'm walking around saying 266 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 6: lines in my head, going through stuffs, and they just 267 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 6: like dad going. 268 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 3: Through something, right, But that's what actors go through, and 269 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 3: people don't realize it's a real thing. 270 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 6: But I love what I do, and I love that 271 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 6: I have somebody like this, my homie, my best friend. 272 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 6: When I'm going through something, she'll be like, bro, you 273 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 6: are devoured right now. 274 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 10: Essence interview. I remember calling you. I'm like, bro, like, 275 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 10: you're putting a lot on yourself right now. And I've 276 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 10: been on him about therapy. I'm like, you need to 277 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 10: go talk to somebody because I feel like black men 278 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 10: like they hold up everything and. 279 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,599 Speaker 8: Everyone around them. 280 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 10: And as a friend, I can see like, this is 281 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 10: a lot on you right now, and I can see 282 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 10: it in real time on that interview, and I was like, 283 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 10: I know my friend is hurting right now. 284 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 3: She called me. 285 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, it wasn't no text, no DM. She called me 286 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 6: to yo and I was like, what's up. She's like 287 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 6: facetimeing me. He's like, what's going on? And a lot 288 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 6: of people don't realize that, like when you're going through stuff, 289 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 6: you really need people to give you grace, gave your 290 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 6: empathy and shout out to like y'all too for talking 291 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 6: about this. 292 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 3: You talk about mental health all the time with man. 293 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 6: And that's why I actually loved planes that because Zach 294 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 6: is going through a lot. 295 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 3: He lost his child and I lost my child. 296 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 6: So doing that scene and sisters and now having to 297 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 6: go through this withard Tima my homegirl here she do 298 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 6: you remember the scene? 299 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: I remember the end of season four is the scene. 300 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 6: It's a real bad scene and it goes back to 301 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 6: when I watched Kay Miscarry and we're doing the scene, everybody' 302 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 6: shooting fast, like, yo, that was dope. 303 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 3: I go back in the tent, lost it, lost it, crying. 304 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 6: I'm like, and then my barber comes in. It's just like, 305 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 6: what's the matter. I'm like, I need I need something. 306 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 6: I need somebody. So they get Crystal. Crystal come in. 307 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 6: She they call k and they're like the value all right. 308 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 6: I said, y'all don't realize when you go through that 309 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 6: trauma and that pain and you got to bring it 310 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 6: back up to show people it don't just go away. 311 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 3: And I had to think about that for weeks afterwards. 312 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 6: So it's good to have somebody that this journey I'm 313 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 6: doing with somebody, I love it. 314 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: But shout out to y'all for talking about mental health. 315 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 6: You talk about it all the time, too, envy because 316 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 6: as a farther, I think you got six kids now 317 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 6: six six People don't know until that man breakdown how 318 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 6: much he had to carry before. 319 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 3: It was like, it's enough. 320 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 6: Now, you know, we allow and black women we don't 321 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 6: even allow black women to vent as much as we should, 322 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 6: but we allow our women to vent more than men. 323 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 6: But in the team much specifically, we are talking about 324 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 6: mental health for black men and. 325 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 326 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 4: Disconnect after the show's over, though, like you know, cause 327 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 4: you said you stay away from your family while you 328 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 4: film me. Once filming and everything is completely, it's time 329 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 4: to go back home. How do you just disconnect and 330 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 4: get that character out of What. 331 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 6: People don't know is that I disconnect from You're talking 332 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 6: about social media and everything. There's points in social media 333 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 6: where you won't see me too much. This stuff I 334 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 6: feeling before. There's stuff that I just collab on, and 335 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 6: I take about four weeks and I just disap here 336 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 6: from everybody because I got to get back to me. 337 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 6: I got to get back to spending time with my kids, 338 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 6: my wife, my family. 339 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 3: I can't just be Zach all the time. And even 340 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: when you're on. 341 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 6: Social media, you Zach, So I just got to put 342 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 6: it down and you like, fuck. 343 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 3: You, Zach. 344 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 8: You ain't working for real though. 345 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 6: For real people come at you. I can't believe you 346 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 6: treat for Teama like that. If I ever see you 347 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 6: in the street, and I'm just like, damn, Like this. 348 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: Is a TV show. But I get you invested, appreciate it. 349 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 3: They keep watching, but it gets to be a lot 350 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 3: some times. 351 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 7: How do you respond to the people that really like 352 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 7: relate to Zach, like the guys there are guys, there 353 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 7: are real life Zachs, like my son's father wrong Rome 354 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 7: loves Zach. Zach Like, how do you give advice to 355 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 7: the real Zachs of the world. 356 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 6: I tell them, because I do have a couple of 357 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 6: really close friends who are Zach's and I tell them, like, 358 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 6: you have to you have to give yourself grace and 359 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 6: but also don't be afraid to do the work. Bro Like, 360 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 6: what we saw growing up a lot of us growing 361 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 6: up in the nineties and two thousands was a lot 362 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 6: of toxic behavior from a lot of people that we 363 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 6: just said was. 364 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 5: Normal, very true, It was so fun. 365 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 3: It wasn't it wasn't it was, but it was hurting. 366 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 3: It was hurting a lot of us. And we just 367 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: have to change our mentality and realize that it's okay 368 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 3: to be vulnerable. 369 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 6: It's okay to say no, it's okay to say I 370 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 6: don't want to do this. And the more I speak 371 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 6: to these young men who talk to me about they say, 372 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 6: you know what I thought, being exact was the best 373 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 6: I could be, which is having sex with a bunch 374 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 6: of different women and having babies and chasing the streets. 375 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 6: And now they're starting to see different versions of that, 376 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 6: because there are different versions of black men who aren't 377 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 6: doing what we grew up thinking was the only way 378 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 6: to get out. 379 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: So now I'm just like, look at other people who 380 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: you want to inspire to be like, and then follow that. 381 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 3: And also I tell them. 382 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 6: Get off social media, which is crazy because I built 383 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 6: so much of my empire on social media. I constantly 384 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 6: tell them to get off social media. All of these 385 00:15:58,760 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 6: young men, like, how do you also. 386 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: Get it is? 387 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 6: It is a drug, it's addictive, it's not healthy, it's 388 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 6: a business. 389 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's not real. It's not 390 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 3: a real space. 391 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 4: It's shaping narratives about ourselves. Like you're allowing other people 392 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 4: to shape narratives about you. You know how wild that 393 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 4: is to know who you are, to know what you're about, 394 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 4: and then to get online and reason and be like, 395 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 4: then you start believing that, yeah, it's real. 396 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 9: I was going to say after that, because before the 397 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 9: Essence interview, you and Kadean were here, and when I 398 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 9: watched the Essence interview and I watch people respond to 399 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 9: the conversations that it started from men we're also really powerful. Yes, 400 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 9: when you see that, are you because you're very open? 401 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 9: But is there now like a different sense of responsibility 402 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 9: because all your open moments cause moments like that and 403 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 9: you don't even do it on purpose. 404 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 3: I don't, but but all I can do is be open. 405 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 6: Ever since I was a little kid, I always spoke 406 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 6: my mind like truth is always like you see, I 407 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 6: hashtag devous truth because I want people to say. I realized, 408 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 6: this is not what I'm saying the world is. This 409 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 6: is what I've experienced, this is what I've been through. 410 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 6: And if what I've been through make you feel something 411 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 6: good or bad, then I'm just sharing. And that's all 412 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 6: I can do. If it made you feel something bad 413 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 6: and you can take away something and become better because 414 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 6: of it, cool, if you took away something good, cool. 415 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 6: But I got to share and tell my truth to 416 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 6: fulfill my purpose. You know, ever since I was young, 417 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 6: I felt like God was like, yo, you have a 418 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 6: purpose that's bigger than just doing whatever it is you 419 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 6: think it's going to be done in Brooklyn, and stay 420 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 6: with that. Don't ever fore wary or that, don't hide 421 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 6: from it, don't go on a different adjacent just listen 422 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 6: to what God is telling you and do that. 423 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 3: And for me, it's sharing my life but good to 424 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: bad and the ugly. 425 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 6: I didn't expect to share about the miscarriage with K 426 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 6: but then all these women started talking about they went 427 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 6: through it, perimenopause. We shared about that. Women are talking 428 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 6: about that mental health with men. It's like, these are 429 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 6: conversations we should be having. That's why all of the 430 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 6: taboo topics that are causing conversations that people are upset 431 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 6: about is what we need as a people. 432 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: I don't think people are upset. 433 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 2: I just love the honesty right because mhm, what your 434 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 2: relationship is is not Jess and Chris's relationship. It's not 435 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: me and Gie's relationship. It's not Charlemagne and his wife's relationship. 436 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 2: It's not forgot sorry to learn, but it's. 437 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 8: Yes, don't know, don't put me in. 438 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 5: You need to check. 439 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 2: But the reason I love it shows people that it's 440 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 2: not perfect. Yes, because what we seen was a lot 441 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: different in our industry growing up. 442 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: We've seen to go to the club and chase this. 443 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: We've seen that, and. 444 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 2: I wish there were other people, other besides the Cosby 445 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 2: Show that showed us how to do. 446 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 3: Things, Envy. I'm glad you. 447 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 6: I'm so glad you said that, because the truth is, 448 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 6: when I was growing up, I said to my dad 449 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 6: and my uncles, I wish I would have told me 450 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 6: some of this stuff when I was in my teenage years. 451 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 3: Why why did you wait till I'm older? 452 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 6: And they always tell me, well, we don't talk about that, 453 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 6: but think about how you could have helped me, right, 454 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 6: think about how So that's what I use. I'm like, 455 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 6: you know what, I'm gonna tell the truth. It may 456 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 6: not be pretty, but hopefully it helps somebody. 457 00:18:58,640 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 5: That's right. 458 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 3: I got four boys, Hopefully it helps them. 459 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 6: So that's all I can do with this, especially with 460 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 6: the Tima people like, why do you like playing Zach 461 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 6: Because Zach is toxic, Zack is angry, Zach is trauma, Zach. 462 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 3: Is all of us. 463 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 6: But I get to be Zach and make poor decisions 464 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 6: and then watch people see how that poor decision affected 465 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 6: my girl. So now the next dude that thinks he 466 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 6: wants to be Zach looks up and says, oh, that's 467 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 6: how I affected Fatima. Let me not do that's my girl. 468 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 6: So that's you know, to me, it's just Another example. 469 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 7: Chris, have you playing Zach ever helped your marriage with Kadeen? 470 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 6: Like absolutely, absolutely, just having those conversations in real life 471 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 6: and being like, yo, if Zach would have told, for example, 472 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 6: if Zach goes to Fatima and tells him he knows 473 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 6: about Chazz, rather than going off the rail and be like, 474 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 6: I'm gonna press this, nigga, that's me now. 475 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 3: If I have an issue, now going right to my wife. 476 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 3: I don't care what the issue is. This is what 477 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 3: it is. 478 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 6: I don't know how you think you want to deal 479 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 6: with it, but it's how I feel. Once I tell 480 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 6: her how I feel about it, then she's like, Okay, 481 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 6: we can. 482 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 3: Handle it this way. If I'm in agreement, we rock. 483 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 6: If I'm not in agreement, she'd be like, hey, you're 484 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 6: the leader in this, I'll let you take the role. 485 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 3: But having the conversation is more important and just going 486 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 3: off and doing it on your own. You weren't always 487 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 3: like that, No, I was not, because I wasn't taught 488 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 3: like that. 489 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 6: My father was like, Yo, as the man of the house, 490 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 6: is your responsibility to take the stress off your wife. 491 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 3: Don't go to her and tell her everything. 492 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 6: That's what he told me, and I was like, you 493 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 6: know what, I feel that until I realized that my 494 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 6: decisions when I wasn't telling her was bringing her more stress. 495 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 3: And then that's when I learned like, I'm going with 496 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 3: her anyway. And my father changed too. I talked to him. 497 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 6: I came here and told you how I had that 498 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 6: conversation with pops. Now my pop's coming to me. He 499 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 6: was like, I had this issue. I went to talk 500 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 6: right to your mother. And I was like, what happened? 501 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 6: And he was just like, YO and mom talking. Now 502 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 6: they going on vacations. And then my father says to me, 503 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 6: you know, I feel like I became a better man 504 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 6: because I started to listen. 505 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 3: I said, no, it's because you also started to share. 506 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 3: He shared, and when he should, he started to get 507 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 3: other people's perspectives. 508 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 4: So I think it's both because it's all about communication. Yeah, true, 509 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 4: talking is received, talking received. 510 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 3: They're true, Crystal. 511 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 9: A lot of us, a lot of women see themselves 512 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 9: in Fatima. What do you want women to take away 513 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 9: from your character? Maybe in general, but I guess more 514 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 9: so when I watch your character, I'm like, when does 515 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 9: when does she take care of herself? 516 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 8: She doesn't. 517 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 9: She always showing up for her meaning for everybody. 518 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, it's funny you say that, because there 519 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 10: was another interview I did with all the sisters and 520 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 10: they talked about men Zach's relationship, and when I look 521 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 10: at it from the outside looking in, it's not a 522 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 10: relationship that I would desire in real life because it's 523 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 10: very toxic. It's a lot of different energies, and I 524 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 10: just like to live a peaceful life, you know, And 525 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 10: which is part of the reason why I go so 526 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 10: heart as my real character Crystal, like my true character 527 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 10: who I am, because I don't want women to feel 528 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 10: like that's exactly what I want, which is why we 529 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 10: like we add stuff to the scenes to show people 530 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 10: resolution or how we're working through things. 531 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 8: One thing that Fatima does not. 532 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 10: Do is take care of herself. She doesn't pour back 533 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 10: into herself. She's constantly pouring into other people, the Andes 534 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 10: and Zak and all his stuff that he has going on. 535 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 10: But I wish that they would write in some stuff 536 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 10: where she can actually just pour back into herself. 537 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 5: Because you started off as a costume designer, right, Yes. 538 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 10: I actually met you when I was styling Tyler at 539 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 10: Global Citizens in South Africa. 540 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 8: That's when I first met you. 541 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 10: I was styling Tyler then, yes, started off as a 542 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 10: PA and then worked my way up through costumes. 543 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 5: So you were responsible for bad I was? 544 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: She said, no that, So. 545 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 4: How did you make your transition? Like, how did you 546 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 4: go from costume designer to being in front of the camp? 547 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 10: Well, I was always pursuing acting behind the scenes, like 548 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 10: anybody who has a real dream, you have to have 549 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 10: a day job and music. You have to have a 550 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 10: day job, something to pay the bills. And I always 551 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 10: try to put myself around what I'm trying to do, 552 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 10: which was act. So what she's doing while I was 553 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 10: what I'm doing now. 554 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 3: She's doing acting and music currently and thank you? 555 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 5: Yes? 556 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 10: So yeah, I fast forward worked my way up from 557 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 10: a PA at the studio to costume designer to styling 558 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 10: Tyler for five years. And at the time I started 559 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 10: styling Tyler, I stopped auditioning. I was actively pursuing acting 560 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 10: really really hard, and nothing was really coming. So when 561 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 10: Tyler offered me the position, I was like, dang, does 562 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 10: he think I can't act? Because I had auditioned for 563 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 10: some of his stuff, but he had never seen the auditions. 564 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 10: So when I finally got the gust to tell him 565 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 10: I was producing Sisters with him. It was season one. 566 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 10: I'm breaking it down for costume design, and I just 567 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 10: told him. I was like, listen, I've been wanting to 568 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 10: ask these are my stories, my friends stories, because we 569 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 10: were giving him this is what we're going through in 570 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 10: Atlanta dating in our thirties, and he was like, I 571 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 10: love this idea, and he gave him the opportunity and 572 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 10: then here we are, very full circle moment. And I 573 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 10: think being coming from a PA and working my way 574 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 10: through the system, I just have a different lens as 575 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 10: an actor, a different appreciation for every single person in 576 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 10: the room on the set that a lot of actors 577 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 10: may not have because they didn't come all the way through. 578 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 8: So I love my journey. 579 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 10: Everybody's journey is different, but I'm very appreciative of the 580 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 10: journey that God took me on. 581 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 8: Okay, so what's up with his music? 582 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 5: DA? 583 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 3: What's up? 584 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 8: I'm working? It's my schedule. 585 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 10: Jest has been so crazy, and you know what studio 586 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 10: time is like, it takes a while. 587 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 8: It's not just one of them like microwave things, you know. 588 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 8: So just taking my time where that wanted to be right. 589 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 8: So is music something that you've always wanted to do? 590 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, since a kid like I've been into music. 591 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure. 592 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: I do want to ask a question. When you walked in, 593 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 2: you were telling me that your sons are playing football. Yes, 594 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: now you've been up here many times. He talked about 595 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 2: football has beat up your body? Yes, put you on string. 596 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 2: You with programs up early in the morning. You miss 597 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 2: so much much. Why do you want your sons to 598 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 2: play football? 599 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 3: Here's a funny part. I don't want them to play football. 600 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 6: They want to play football because their dad played football 601 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 6: and it's popular. I would prefer them to run track 602 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 6: because track is all about discipline. 603 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 3: You got to eat different. 604 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 6: It's a skill set that people don't understand learning how 605 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 6: to run properly. It takes the proper force, production, it 606 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 6: takes everything. I just want them to understand discipline so 607 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 6: that they can apply that discipline to anything in life. 608 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 5: Right. 609 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 6: If if you're great at doing one thing, you're great 610 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 6: at doing everything because you've learned how to do it. 611 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 6: And I think sports is the ultimate way to test 612 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 6: their will and challenge them without having to, you know, 613 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 6: deal with the bs that goes on out in the world. 614 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: Dance for girls, dance is what that discipline is a 615 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: different discipline. 616 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 3: So that's right. 617 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: How many girls you guys? I got to have four girls, 618 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: two boys, So. 619 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 3: You've been to a lot of dance recitals on. 620 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: This weekend seven seven pm. But continue. I don't have past. 621 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 3: I don't miss it. 622 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 6: I don't miss going to dance recitals with my sister. 623 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 6: But that discipline is exactly why I want them to 624 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 6: play sports. I just want them to be great humans, 625 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 6: great people, be good men, and just know that, Okay, 626 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 6: when the adversity comes, I can work through it. 627 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 10: So what I say, it definitely builds characters, like I 628 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 10: feel like us both being former athletes, has like. 629 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 8: That discipline carries your entire life. 630 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 3: It really does. 631 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 8: Yeah, what did you play? 632 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 10: I was a competition cheerleader, which is like equivalent to dancing. 633 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 8: But that schedule like rigorous. 634 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, people don't understand it. I don't know if it's 635 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 2: a sport. It's considered sport, But cheerleading and dance as 636 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 2: much as they practice goodness, as much as the effort 637 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: they put into. 638 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 8: It, like we would get hurt worse than football. We 639 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 8: don't have him there. You tour Achilles, Achilles, broken nose, concussion, 640 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 8: broken nose that's falling from the base. I flew in college. 641 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 10: I was a base in middle school through high school 642 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 10: and a girl came down, twist straight to the elbow, 643 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 10: straight to my nose, and you keep going, don't stop. 644 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: Finishing, keep going. 645 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 10: I don't care if the bone is out your arm. 646 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 10: You finished the routine. Our coach was shout out France fears. 647 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to That standard is what I think 648 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 6: is missing from us right, like everything is very very soft. 649 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: One thing I will say about my son's playing football. 650 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 6: I like the fact that they get to be rugged 651 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 6: and it's like, yo, you got to push through that guy, 652 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 6: but he's standing there. Dad can't give me those qz 653 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 6: he pushed through them, or you don't you know, like 654 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 6: I think sports back in the nineties two thousand was, 655 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 6: you know, coaches with cursing kids, screaming kids challenge and 656 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 6: that now you can't do anything. My brother used to 657 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 6: coach a Konarsi high school. He doesn't anymore, but I 658 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 6: think he got written up for quote unquote speaking violently 659 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 6: to a kid which was raising his voice, and. 660 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: I said, how do you hand no? None of my coaches. 661 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 3: Then back up. 662 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 6: My coach used to say the wildest thing. Shout out 663 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 6: to Jeffrey Ishmael. He used to say the wildest stuff 664 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 6: to me. I'm not even gonna say it on the radio, 665 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 6: but it will get you locked in, Like, let me focus. 666 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 6: This man done cursed me out and threatened to kill me. 667 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 6: But I know I got a locked in and I 668 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 6: do my job. But you didn't think he was gonna 669 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 6: kill you, But in my life thought he was gonna 670 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 6: kill me. I always knew that man loved me more 671 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 6: than probably his own kids. 672 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 3: But if he was cursing me out, then that means 673 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 3: I wasn't. 674 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 5: Doing something and you knew it was gonna be consequences. 675 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 3: Absolutely, there's no consequences for people these days. 676 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 6: They can say what they want, they can do what 677 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 6: they want and think it's hurting us as a community. 678 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 3: It most definitely is. I's still with my son asked. 679 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 7: To this day, Yes, to this day, you better stoop 680 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 7: down niggas so I can get. 681 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 5: Yes. 682 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 7: So Crystal, now going back to what you said about 683 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 7: the role right, you said, looking at it as Crystal, 684 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 7: you would not take this ship that's happening and you 685 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 7: would look out for yourself. You would be the total opposite. 686 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 7: How does that affect dating in your real life? 687 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I think it's made me more aware 688 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 10: of my boundaries and my nose. You know, you have 689 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 10: to have your nose. What you're not willing to deal with, 690 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 10: what are your deal breakers? And I feel like this 691 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 10: character has also helped me identify. Ye, I don't want that. 692 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 10: And you know, I don't want a guy with a 693 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 10: bunch of kids, you know. And it's crazy I say that, 694 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 10: but my father has it's four kids by four different women, 695 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 10: and it is one of the most amazing men I know, 696 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 10: you know, loves us all. He's just a good stand 697 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 10: up guy. So I know it's possible. But for me, 698 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 10: and I think it's also the temperature of the culture 699 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 10: right now, and like the toxicity when it comes to 700 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 10: baby mamas and the drama. 701 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 8: I'm good, I'm cool. So it scares you from dating 702 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 8: or it's just like not scarcely from dating. 703 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 10: But I just know, like I don't want a guy 704 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 10: that's got a bunch of kids out over the place, 705 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 10: you know, maybe not an ex convict. 706 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 8: You know that If y'all have you ever try to 707 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 8: set her up. 708 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 6: I try to stay away from that. I don't want 709 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 6: to have no parts in center. Okay, and you get 710 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 6: it didn't work out, and they was both mad at 711 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 6: me you and I. 712 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 3: Was like, I thought y'all would work well together. Yeah, 713 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 3: because I saw some synergy. 714 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 6: And then you know what you think your friend is 715 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 6: in the daytime. They don't act that way. Andy's friend 716 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 6: was acting. I found out she don't act that way. 717 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 3: Guys, I said, you know what, I let all of them. 718 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 3: You can go to Cupid. I don't want no. I 719 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 3: love you my friend. Whoever you find, I will embrace 720 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 3: that my brother. But I don't want no. Just don't 721 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 3: be a Zach. 722 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 8: You said, don't be but Zach not saying that all 723 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 8: of Zach is good. 724 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 10: There are some guys who have had a past that 725 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 10: have changed, like we've all like we all have our 726 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 10: things that we've done. And not saying people can't be redeemed. 727 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 10: It's just what I've seen and the drama that people 728 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 10: deal with. I don't want to welcome that, you know 729 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 10: what I'm saying. But if I meet somebody and he's 730 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 10: just a great because Zach is a great guy, he's 731 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 10: honest to his core. He's a really good guy and 732 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 10: I can't I cannot say that he's not. 733 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 8: We all are for sure the boy. 734 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 4: Have you given Crystal and any tips on her new podcast, 735 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 4: because because she's launching the podcast called Keep It Positive Sweetie, 736 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 4: the Black Effect podcast. 737 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 3: I will say was one of the people that told 738 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 3: us she should have a podcast. 739 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 8: I know that's right. 740 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 6: This one thing I want to do is see all 741 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 6: my friends when I want to come. I want to 742 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 6: call all my friends and then be like, yo, we're 743 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 6: all going here on this island. So when she started 744 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 6: talking to me about her story and her journey and 745 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 6: everything that she believes, and I was like, you should 746 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 6: like talk about this, She's like, I don't know. 747 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 3: I don't care. 748 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 6: If you don't know, you got to just do it. 749 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 6: And then that's all I have to saying. She took 750 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 6: it up and ran with it, and now it's like 751 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 6: she's a beastwooted. 752 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 3: I went to the last live show she had in 753 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 3: the land. It was crazy. She came out like Beyonce. 754 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 6: It was funny because the lights was down and they 755 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 6: didn't know that she was in the arena, so the 756 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 6: lights come down and everyone then the lights come up 757 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 6: and she's there with her background dances and all these women. 758 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 6: It just felt good to watch my friend at that moment, 759 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 6: like she out there doing her thing and. 760 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 3: People are doing her I felt good. 761 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 6: And I'm telling you, make sure y'all tune in and 762 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 6: keep it positive, sweetie. I know I do make sure 763 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 6: that tune is. 764 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 8: Going to be. 765 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 3: I can't make the announcement right, well, he just did 766 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 3: in to keep it posit. 767 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 5: Expects same, you know, right. 768 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 10: I mean, this is our we're in two years in 769 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,959 Speaker 10: more of just showing people that were more alike they 770 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 10: were not, yes, more of bringing people closer to Christ, 771 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 10: more of welcoming people because I feel like the Christian 772 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 10: community has done such a great job at pushing people away. 773 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 10: I wanted people to feel seen and feel loved and 774 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 10: know that, hey, you're good here, you know. 775 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 3: So I just got some pushback on that on Instagram. 776 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 3: Mind posted. 777 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 6: I talked about church, you know, I talked about like 778 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 6: I said, I'm not anti church. 779 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 3: I'm not anti God because I'm not. 780 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 6: But I just don't believe in going to the same 781 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 6: church family that I felt like did me so dirty 782 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 6: every Sunday to save face. 783 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 3: So I haven't found a church home yet. And I 784 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 3: guess people got. 785 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 6: Upset because I said I wasn't in church every Sunday. 786 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 6: But that's just my story. I can't sit out here 787 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 6: and just say I believe in God and praise God 788 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 6: and then people like, well I don't see you in church. Well, 789 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 6: this is why I got my feelings hurt. I felt judged, 790 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 6: and I'm looking for the right place. 791 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,479 Speaker 4: You know, we have a you know, I do my 792 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 4: mental wealth export every year, and we have a panel 793 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 4: about that specific topic. Yes, my good sister Debbie Brown, 794 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 4: like that was her? I did she We have a 795 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 4: topic about that in particular. 796 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 10: Remember the episode I had a bunch of different people 797 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 10: from all different walks, background, sexual purpose of everything, showing 798 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 10: that we're not as far from God as we think 799 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 10: we are because a lot of us feel like shame 800 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 10: and certain days were like I can't even talk to him, 801 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 10: and when we. 802 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 8: All sat down, we were like dang, yeah, like. 803 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 6: A lot that's how I felt with church shame because 804 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 6: I'm like, I don't always live perfectly, so if nobody 805 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 6: they gonna just be talking about me, so I don't 806 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 6: want to go. 807 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 3: I literally felt and shout out to Brenda because Brenda. 808 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 3: She made me. 809 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, Brenda Palmer made me feel so welcome, and she's 810 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 6: not a judgmental person at all. 811 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 3: She's the one that made. 812 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 6: Me feel like, Yo, if everybody was more christ Like 813 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 6: like this, I would go every sthing. Yeah yeah, but 814 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 6: it's hard because I know that I'm not living right. 815 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 6: I'm trying, you know what I'm saying, But I'm not perfect, and. 816 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 3: I don't know the deacons and the ushers and. 817 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 7: Hello, well yeah nothing, just go ahead. 818 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: But exactly a little bit. 819 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 7: And you know when they do do the communion, it 820 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 7: was liquor in some of them. So y'all gotta know 821 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 7: that the new. 822 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 4: Season as the team was on BT Plus right now, 823 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 4: thank you for joining us so much. 824 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 3: Appreciate you guys'll man the breakfast club. 825 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 5: Good morning. 826 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: Every day a week ago. Pick your ass up the 827 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: breakfast Club. 828 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 3: Finish, y'all done.