WEBVTT - We Are Not Your Superheroes 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:14.600 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wok F Daily with 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:19.639 Meet your Girl Daniel Moody. Recording from the Home Bunker, Folks, 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:25.440 I'm coming to you after hearing news of a protester 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:32.440 that self emilated close to the courthouse where Donald Trump 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:35.640 is on trial. At the time of this recording, I 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:40.360 don't really have any details. I have seen the clips 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:46.800 of the reporters who were there just getting this image 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:53.800 and broadcasting live. We are living in such unstable, uncertain 0:00:54.040 --> 0:01:04.679 and just remarkably volatile times when you feel like the 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:10.080 only thing that you can do is this kind of act, 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:14.119 which monks have done, and we've reported on this show. 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.600 You know, just a couple of months ago, another protester 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:23.880 in front of an embassy Israeli embassy in DC did 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:24.520 the same thing. 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:26.640 You know. 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.360 I know that some of you follow astrology and know 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:32.880 that some of you don't. Some people think that it's 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:37.160 just woohoo. Other people are like, it's one of the oldest, 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:43.200 you know, spiritual religious systems right that guided us for 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:47.400 quite some time. And what I will say about this 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:51.640 moment is that an astrologer that I follow, who is 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:56.120 also a friend, Channy Nicholas, who has an incredible app 0:01:56.720 --> 0:02:00.120 has said that the astrology of this moment, this time 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:03.400 that we are living in mirrors the astrology from the 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:07.480 nineteen sixties and what was happening, and like you know, 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:13.240 the eclipses, the just astrological conjunctions and all of these things, 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:16.600 the return Jupiter Saturn, like all of these things that 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:19.520 are happening. I continue to say that we are at 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:25.360 an inflection point. The world is essentially a tinderbox, and 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:34.040 you know it is necessary, necessary, necessary, necessary to slow down, 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.560 to have grace, to give yourself grace, to give those 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.880 around you grace, to take a beat. I will be 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:48.559 very transparent that last week I had an absolute breakdown. 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:54.400 Couldn't really pinpoint the reason why, but I was feeling 0:02:54.560 --> 0:03:03.000 very erratic, feeling just very unhinged, lots of tears, just exhausted, 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:09.160 emotional like, just feeling out of sorts. And I urge 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:14.240 you all that before you get to that moment of bursting. 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:17.680 And maybe sometimes the bursting is necessary, it's part of 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:22.000 the process. But when you start to feel yourself spinning 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:26.880 in any which way, find ways to ground yourself. If 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:29.520 that is meditation, if it is prayer, if it is 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:31.760 going for a walk, if it is playing with a pet, 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.040 if it is calling a friend, if it's dialing up 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:37.280 your therapist, if it is gardening, you know, if it 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:42.720 is music, whatever it is that grounds you reach for 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:48.800 it in abundance because the times, folks are just wild 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:54.560 a f Coming up next my conversation with my friend 0:03:55.400 --> 0:04:02.240 and just brilliant mind, professor doctor Christina Greer. Is this 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:08.279 episode just chop full of black girl magic and brilliance 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:12.240 and analysis and just the most So I hope that 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:18.159 you enjoy it, folks. I am so excited to welcome 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:23.120 back to WOKF Daily, doctor Christina Greer, Political scientists, Associate 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:28.520 professor at Fordham University, author of Black Ethnics, and co 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:32.080 host of FAQ NYC, host of The Blackest Question. She 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:36.320 is the blackest person, Brooklynmon. I love this for all 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:40.080 of us. It's so great to have you. It's so 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:43.080 great to have you back on. There's been so much 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:46.080 that has been playing out in the news as of late, 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:49.559 and so I actually let us avoid the conversation around 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:53.120 Trump at least for the beginning first part of our conversation. 0:04:53.960 --> 0:05:00.599 You know, the NCAA Women's tournament just ended incredible. I 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:05.880 mean incredible season for women's basketball. What I will say 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.080 to my woll Gay Up listeners is that I am 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:12.440 a newbie. I have always enjoyed basketball, but over the 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.760 last year I really got into women's basketball because of 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:19.400 my girlfriend, who's a big fan of the WNBA. We 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:21.560 went to a bunch of games and just like got 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:25.640 into it. And so this season of women's college basketball 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:30.240 has just been incredible. What's also been incredible is the 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:35.359 media coverage that has really showed America's ass in so 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:40.240 many ways as it pertains to misogyny, as it pertains 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:46.800 to patriarchy and race and racism. Missagy Noir, I mean, 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:50.960 you name it, I'm gonna throw anti anti blackness. We 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:56.400 have just seen it play out with the matchup of 0:05:56.520 --> 0:06:01.360 these teams that we have seen with Iowa, you know, 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:05.640 and and and uh Caitlin Clark and you know, a 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:09.159 largely you know, majority white team and the mid you 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.840 know in the Midwest that the media wanted to portray 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:17.479 as America's sweethearts versus you know, LSU right, a black 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:22.920 team led by Angela angel Reyes and Flage and who 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.719 are unapologetically black. You go to the finals and you 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:32.320 have uh, South Carolina going you know against Iowa South Carolina, 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:38.320 black team headed by a black woman again, unapologetic black 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.840 woman coach. And the way that the media, Christina has 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:49.440 framed this has been so disappointing, but so you know expected, right, 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:51.800 But I think that for a lot of people again, 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:56.039 you're having meal, tens of millions of people tuned in, right, 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.200 And I wonder from you just you know, you were 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:03.040 watching the clips. You're a big fan of Dawn Staley, 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:06.120 you know, because she's Philly, Philly bred and born and 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.839 just a superstar you know, has been. She was a 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.280 superstar when she was a player, she's been a superstar 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:15.520 as a coach. What did you make of the media 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:17.240 brew ha ha over the. 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:21.160 Over this March Madness season. Well A, it's always great 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.640 to spend time with you, b you know, I'm gonna 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.800 quote my late grandmother who always said, the only time 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:29.560 you should be surprised is when you're surprised. And to me, 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:33.800 this coverage is like Larry Bird Magic Johnson all over again. 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:37.720 If those of your listeners remember that, it's like the 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.520 media needs a Larry Bird, they need a Christian Latner, 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:44.640 they need a white savior in this like growingly black sport. Now, 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.520 the conversation was always, Oh, we don't pay women anything 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.760 because no one watches women's sports. That's out the window. Yay, 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:53.960 because they've posted the numbers. The proof of ism is 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:57.000 in the pudding, you know, even when the Liberty made 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.640 it to the playoffs last year, record numbers, record and 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:03.000 so stop with the excuses. We sort of started happening 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:06.800 this conversation when Britney Griner was detained in Russia, yep, 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:09.920 and the conversations and why was she in Russia? Right, 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:11.800 because she doesn't make any money in the United States. 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.520 Can you imagine, you know, basically looking at her CB, 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.080 It's like Steph Curry's like, I got to go to 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:18.520 Russia to make a little bit of money in the 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:22.480 off season. No, you can't, right, And so how we 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:27.000 treat women period, not like just female athletes. To remember 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.160 a few years ago, we saw their workout and it 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.680 was like some yoga mats and a dumb bell set. 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.480 That was it from Target? Like that was it? I mean? 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:36.520 And people were showing pictures of their home gyms, like 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:38.080 I live in New York City. I got a better 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:39.840 setup than they do, right, And I live in an 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:41.720 eight hundred square for an apartment like that was what 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:45.160 people were posting. So fast forward to twenty twenty four, 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.920 you've got, you know, kind of these rematches, and even 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:52.480 when South Carolina wins, they try and make the story 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.800 about Caitlin right, and you see people online like, hey, 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.800 you can actually talk about the winners. You could still 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:01.360 talk about these black girls, unapologized black girls who have 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.079 made it to the final four. You know, you even 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:06.600 have some of these And this is the problem with 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:10.439 sports journalism. You very rarely can find a good sports journalist. 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:13.120 You have a lot of former athletes who are employed 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.200 talking about sports, but there's a real respect that we 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.520 have for journalists, people who dedicate their lives to it. 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:23.000 So you have these former athletes spouting the same misogynistic, 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:27.760 anti black rhetoric about black female athletes that you no 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:30.000 longer have to have old white men saying. You've got 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:32.800 young black men saying it. Well, if Angel Reives didn't 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:34.880 want to, you know, get talked about that, maybe she 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:36.800 shouldn't have come out and talking about It's like, what 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.880 are you talking about? This young woman does not deserve 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:43.679 the racist vitriol that she had to endure these past 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:45.520 few years. You and I know the hate mail that 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.520 we get, so we can only imagine the scale in 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:52.680 which she gets it. And we haven't had the conversation 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:57.079 about the politics of respectability right out loud, conversation about 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:59.760 these young girls with the nails, with the lashes, with 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.560 the with the baby hair, with the weave, where it's 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:05.840 just like they're doing their jobs and they may not 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.480 look the way you think a black girl should look, 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:10.320 they may not speak the way you think black people 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:14.040 should speak. But as we've seen, politics of respectability only 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.720 gets us thus far. And you know, we've had this 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:20.280 conversation about men when we think about Hank Aaron being perfect, 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:23.240 and we see the way he was treated, Bill Russell 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:25.400 being perfect, We saw the way he was treated. So 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:27.599 these girls are like, you know what, I would be 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.959 perfectly on the court. Everything else that's subject to your 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:34.320 interpretation and your opinion. So I'm gonna do me because 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.000 me sort of presenting myself in the way that you 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.040 want it is still not going to ever let you 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.800 accept me. So why not just be authentic and represent 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:46.400 where I represent? And I think someone like Don Staley 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:51.720 as a coach, being authentically herself and genuine about not 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:55.319 just her faith, but her struggle to get to where 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.880 she is, you know. I mean, I have the pleasure 0:10:57.880 --> 0:10:59.920 of being friends with Gail Marquis, who was in the 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:04.199 nineteen seventy six women's Olympic team. They were silver medal. Okay, 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:08.640 she's seventy years old, just I mean brilliant. And we 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:11.439 went to a Knicks game together and she's telling me 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:15.360 stories and we're cracking and laughing, but they're horrendous stories, right, 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:16.839 So I was like, hey, Gale, did she ever think 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.200 about coaching? She was like, girl coaches made like seventy 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:21.280 five dolive Like. She was like, they didn't start paying 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:25.120 female coaches any money until recently. And she was like, 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:27.920 and now you see, you know, male coaches coaching female 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.480 teams because there's actually money there, right, But before, when 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.280 there was no money, you didn't see any male coaches. 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:34.400 So she was like, you know, she played overseas in 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.600 Paris for many, many years because there was nothing for 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.200 her to do here, right, I mean, she didn't have 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:41.640 a basketball team in her ice, in her middle school. 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.120 She didn't start playing basketball until high school. I mean, 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:47.760 so just even like the pipeline for women's sports, one 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.480 of my godsisters played for Northwestern. She was a major 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:55.360 star in the college circuit, but there was no WNBA 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.440 at the time, so like she went front office in 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:01.400 a lot of NBA sports, Like she couldn't work in 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:05.000 her own field at the time. And so we see 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:09.040 the inequities still exist. But the way, you know, people 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:12.040 try and talk about Coach Staley, I mean asking Coach 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:15.200 Staley about transports, which is sure if you want to 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:20.200 ask coaches that question, A, ask all the coaches that question. B. 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:22.720 Maybe not ask him that question in the middle of 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.760 the Final four, when you know the hatred and vitriol 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.880 they're going to receive from even broaching that topic. And 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.520 Don Staley A answered it perfectly. But our facts gave 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.800 a nod to the fact that, like, you do know 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:36.920 that you ask me this question is going to detract 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:39.240 from what I need to do, you know, and I 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.440 know that my players, my black girls got to play 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:45.160 against the players and the referees, right, because we do 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:49.160 know that America needs this sort of Caitlyn Clark, right. 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:51.080 We see this all the time. We see it usually 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.040 in the Super Bowl when it's a matchup between black 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:57.600 quarterback and white quarterback. We see it constantly, and it's exhausting. 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.600 You know, I saw the articles DNCE Daily had a 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.680 fifty seven hundred dollars Louis vuittan jacket on when she 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:06.040 was coaching. Well, you know what, she's just got a 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.520 major bonus because she's taken them to the playoffs and 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.920 she's taken them to the championship. And how she chooses 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:13.080 to spend her money is how she chooses to spend 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.040 her money. I don't think that I've ever seen an 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:18.800 article about the cost of tailored suits of Rick Patino 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:24.200 when he's coaching or whomever, right college or otherwise. And 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.000 so this we see it in politics all the time. 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:27.720 How you talk about women's hair, how you talk about 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.720 women's bodies, their weight, their clothing. You know, do they 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:32.320 have kids and I have kids? Or they married or 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.400 then you know, I mean we talk about the coach 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:39.480 of lsu Kim Mulki and her Shenanigans. Sure, but like 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:41.840 we know more about her outfits, and granted, her outfits 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:46.160 are wild and Owland is short, and she like, girl, 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:49.120 are you trying to the court, But it's like, why 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:51.560 are we talking about her clothes? I mean, I don't 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:53.360 agree with her politics and a lot of the things 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.600 that she says about, you know, anti vaxxing and you know, 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.880 some of her conservative us she's crazy, She's she's an 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:00.960 amazing coach, though, and so we spend a lot of 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.360 time talking about her outfits and not her coaching. And 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.640 so I think that I looked at don Staley as 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:09.200 a guide because she's a unbothered at least in the 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.560 public facing. She clearly has a good team behind her 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:14.640 that she can sort of decompress with. But I mean, 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.240 don't forget she's been a child star. I mean there 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:19.400 are articles about her from when she was in eighth grade, 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.200 you know, so she's unfortunately had to deal with the 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.760 racism and sexism and the massage noir and the anti 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:28.040 blackness because don't forget, she didn't go to fancy schools 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:30.360 in Philly, you know, like she did go to school 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.640 playing basketball and worked her way all the way up 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.760 to where she is now. So I think that she's 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:39.400 accustomed to this. It doesn't make it right, but she's 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:42.880 really good at I mean, her answers in some of 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:46.960 these q and as has been from a woman who 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:50.080 clearly knows how the media treats black women. 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:59.200 I'm also thinking about Fannie Willis being in the press 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:03.480 and being questioned about, you know, who bought you a 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:05.920 dinner and who did this for you and that for you. 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:10.240 And meanwhile, we have an entire fucking criminal that is 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:14.880 the Republican candidate for president, but we're not having conversations 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.480 about who paid his bail and who's doing this and 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.160 who's doing that. And so there's been a lot of 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:24.320 attention in the media, whether it be in politics or 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.920 in sports, of black women. 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:27.680 Right. 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:31.240 What you're talking about tis James, you know here in 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.400 New York, and you know her the press. She has 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:36.160 a ven debta against Donald Trump. No, she has a 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:39.080 been debta against criminals and grifters, right, Like she's an 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:42.880 attorney general, Like that's her job. The same thing with 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:46.320 Fannie Willison. Then you look at just the treatment, you know, 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:51.160 and we watched Angel Reese break down right twenty and 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:54.840 remind ourselves she is twenty one years old. She is 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:59.240 a baby, right that has the spotlight on her is 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.640 not afraid of the spotlight. But it is also going 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:05.720 to be very real with people about what comes the good, 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.480 the endorsements, the money, this that and the other thing, 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.840 the Vogue shoot and the bad which are the death threats, 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.800 right and the fear, and so I just, you know, 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:18.480 I wonder Christina, like I feel like we have to 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:23.480 do so much explaining as black women. It never ends 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:27.520 on what it is to be in this black woman 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:34.160 body and deal with a white supremacist, patriarchal society, right, 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.760 and like and the exhaustion that comes from that. And 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.360 I'm like, I don't know, you know, for you, but 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.240 at what point or will we ever get to a 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.640 point where we're just like, I actually don't give a fuck, 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.960 like what you think and what you're saying and what 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.600 you're writing about. And I'm good and I'm gonna keep 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:54.680 being good because you're all gonna keep being terrible, right, So. 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:58.000 I think I'm swiftly approaching that point. So a few things. 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:04.040 So one, I detest these black women are superheroes T shirts, 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:08.480 because I'm like, we're not. We're mortals, just like everybody else. 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.639 We're just doing the job of everybody else. I'm not 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:15.240 a superhero. I'm a freaking human being. And because you're slacking, 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:18.240 I've actually got to pick up your slack. So it's 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:22.320 like we're like the housekeepers slash moms of the world. 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.719 I don't want to be that. Like j I'm tired 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:30.159 of being your cleanup woman. Part of me is just 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:34.359 sort of like I'm doing what I can do. I'm 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:37.560 explaining to you what you should be doing, but I'm 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:40.160 actually not going to do your job and I might 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:42.320 have to just deal with the consequences. But as you 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:45.000 and I have both seen the number of black women 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.720 we know who go into early graves because we're doing 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:51.160 everybody else's work. We're worrying about everybody else, and we're 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.800 trying to figure out how we can make everything work. 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.399 And it's like, you know what, the sun God willing 0:17:56.440 --> 0:18:01.040 will rise again tomorrow without me, and you realize, you know, 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:03.199 I told you, I've told you the story before. But 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:05.719 the black secretary that was working at Fordham the very 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.399 first day of school and I'm like, I need you 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.040 know these syllabi xeroxton, I need my blue books and 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.280 where's my classroom and blah blah blah, and she was like, 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:16.280 I'm about to take off two weeks. I'm like two 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:19.159 weeks at the beginning of school. What like, who does that? 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.440 You're the admin, right, And she was like, listen, these 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:24.400 people are not about to rush me into an early grief, 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.720 because of course that's when everyone's hysterical the first two 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:28.760 weeks of school. And she said, look at here, this 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:31.800 is my first day. She says, my name will never 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:35.240 be on the outside of this building. And she just 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.520 let it hang out there, and then she looks at 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:42.000 me and she says, and neither will yours. So she's like, so, 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.399 you can give these people your whole life if you 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:46.560 want to. But at the end of the day, the 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:50.399 Lowenstein Building is still going to be named the Lowenstein Building, Okay. So, 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:54.800 and I swear that has been my north star for 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:58.320 a really long time, Like and Erica Badou, don't be 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:02.800 naming the buildings after me to go down dilapidated. Like so, 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:04.560 even if you do get a building named after you, 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:08.920 and what then? What? So? I feel like that's part 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:11.040 of me. I do this intermittent working thing. You know, 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:13.320 I work really hard and then I take off. Okay, 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:15.000 you know I love a swimsuit. You know I love 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:17.720 some sun. So I'm out next week. I'm out. I'm 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:22.280 gonna bust my help this week until next Wednesday. Next Wednesday. 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.280 You know, only people who know me know me, and 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:27.720 they can reach me. Everybody else you'll get my lovely 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:31.480 out of office reply. So that's two three. This is 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:33.320 where we slightly different, and this is why I love 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:36.560 black women, because we could be sisters and indifference. I 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:40.439 support your analysis of Tis James one thousand percent. I 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:42.879 do not agree with your analysis of Fanning Mail. Okay, 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.680 First thing my father told me. My first job airstep 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:48.600 busy brown shoe store. Second job TGI Friday's Smiley people 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:52.120 greeter aka hostis well, my dad told me, don't get 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:55.639 your honey where you make your money. Come on and Fanny, 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:58.040 we know that Donald Trump is the slipperiest of the 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.240 slipperiest man. Yep. We know that he hires p people 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:03.120 specifically yeah, to go after and find what your achilles 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:05.560 heel is. He's done in his entire career because he 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:07.800 likes to cut corners. He likes to not pay, He 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.040 likes to never pay the piper and face up to 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:12.480 what he's done. He always deflects to flex the flex. 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:14.800 You know this. You're smart enough to know this. You're 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.400 a lawyer. You've had clients like it. You've never had 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:21.800 a former president of the United States. So we unfortunately 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:23.879 have to rest on what our parents told us from 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:27.280 day one in kindergarten. You gotta work twice sorry to 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:29.080 get half as much. You know that you will be 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:31.800 judged differently. You can't do what they do. You can't 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:34.600 act like how they act. We know this the only 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:36.600 reason why she's that successful because she had parents who 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:38.200 told her that, and she listened to them, and that's 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:41.520 how she got where she got. But I don't understand 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:45.200 why she would think that having a relationship with someone 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:48.280 at her job is something that the former president of 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:51.480 the United States, that particular president, wouldn't find an exploit. 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.000 And she kept saying rightfully, So I'm not the one 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:56.520 on trial. Except for Fanny. We talked about you and 0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:59.199 your sex life and Gorilla Grip and all this other stuff. 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:02.119 For three weeks. We didn't talk about Donald Trump. We 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:04.200 just talked about you. And all he had to do 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:08.280 was sow that seed of doubt in Moderates, Independence Weeklaning 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:12.680 Democrats and a lot of people. And so, yes, you 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:15.400 may still be on the case, but it's tarnished now. 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:19.919 And that's not necessarily his doing, it's his exploitation of it. 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:22.720 But you're the one who did it. And so that's 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:26.359 my frustrations as a black woman. I support whatever she does. Sure, 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:28.760 I know it's a lonely job, it's a huge job, 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:31.280 it's a high pressure job. Things I don't know. That's 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:34.560 not my job. But I'm like, you also know your 0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:37.119 foundation from your parents, because it's the same thing that 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:39.280 my parents told me and your parents told you, because 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:44.000 that's how we're where we are, not just surviving but thriving. 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:47.719 There's a difference. And so like you work this hard 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:49.440 to get up there and throw it away for some 0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:55.760 like some d girl, like just wait or get it 0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:58.320 someplace else. It's Atlanta, Like you know what I'm saying. 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:03.679 So my frustration is, we know who Donald Trump is. 0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:06.200 She of all people, knows who he is and how 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:08.240 shady he is and the types of people he has 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:11.240 around him who will do nothing but find some girl 0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:13.640 who doesn't really like you, who wants to exploit it, 0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:15.960 find somebody who's a little jealous of you, who wants 0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:18.560 to tell your business all the things that we unfortunately 0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:21.600 saw on display. And so like, yes, she's strong, but 0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:23.960 it really it frustrated me. 0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:27.200 She shouldn't have put herself and I and I agree. 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:29.960 I think that where I came from it was you 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:32.520 shouldn't have put yourself in that position. You should have 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:35.439 known better, you do know better. You just decided not 0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:38.439 to do better. And we are what I will and 0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:42.120 here we are. What I did appreciate is the fact that, 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:44.400 you know, I thought that she was going to walk 0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:48.560 into that space with her head coward, her shoulders slumped 0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:52.760 and be really apologetic and give them, you know what 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:55.680