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Speaker 2: Michael Porter Jr. When it comes to like straight up,

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Speaker 2: under the circumstances. All right, quick, Lakers stop, and then

432
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Speaker 2: we will move on to our rapid fire segment. So

433
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 2: the Lakers appear to be playing at safe. There's a

434
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 2: huge debate yesterday surrounding what the Lakers are trying to accomplish.

435
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 2: They let Dorian Finney Smith walk to the Rockets. Now,

436
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 2: there's been some conversation surrounding the draft compensation. You send

437
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 2: out some second round picks in the Dorian Finney Smith deal, right,

438
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 2: and so now you're like, well, why did you send

439
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,719
Speaker 2: out draft compensation for a player that you then let walk.

440
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 2: That's just poor asset management. Now, I want to be clear,

441
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 2: I would have retained Dorian Finney Smith. The only case

442
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 2: for not retaining Dorian Phinney Smith is if you went

443
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 2: out and got one of these dudes on the mid

444
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 2: level exception. So like if they had let Dorian Finney

445
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 2: Smith walk, and they got the nakil Alexander Walker four year,

446
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 2: sixty million dollars a year or three year or whatever.

447
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 2: The mid level exception available to the Lakers was boom.

448
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 2: I'm on, you just basically did a roster balancing move.

449
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,959
Speaker 2: We don't have much in the way of athletic guards

450
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 2: who can defend on the perimeter. We're turning Dori Infinney

451
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: Smith into that type of guy. I could have seen

452
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 2: that as a viable option. I would have retained dor

453
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Speaker 2: Infhiney Smith. That said, when it comes to the second

454
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 2: round draft compensation piece, it is complicated in the sense

455
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 2: that they made that deal before the lukadancicch trade. So

456
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Speaker 2: it is at least defensible to say that your entire approach,

457
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 2: in your entire focus and plan and strategy can shift

458
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: when the craziest NBA trade in the history of the

459
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 2: sport happens and it just upends everything that you've been

460
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: planning to do. But this idea from the report from

461
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: Dave McManamon yesterday straight up saying that the Lakers let

462
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Speaker 2: Dorian Phinney Smith walk to keep their books clean. In

463
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven for free agency. This is where I

464
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 2: get super confused. When's the last time we even saw

465
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: a star level talent in this league just change teams

466
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: through free agency. It doesn't happen. They re up with

467
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: their current team and they request a trade if they

468
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 2: want to get moved, and it ends up being the

469
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Speaker 2: Dorian Finney Smiths of the league that end up being

470
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Speaker 2: the salary filler in those types of deals. Banking on

471
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 2: a big free agent signing feels like a huge risk

472
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 2: to me, And how in the hell is this a

473
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 2: good idea when you don't even have Luka Doncic locked

474
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: up long term. He's going to be twenty seven years

475
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 2: old at the start of next season, meaning he's just

476
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 2: entering into the age where it's like the knees start

477
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 2: to hurt a lot more than they did when you

478
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 2: were younger. He's going to just now start experiencing some

479
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: of the urgency that surrounds his aging process. He's going

480
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 2: to be more motivated than ever. He just got embarrassed

481
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 2: on the league stage as his team, the team that

482
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: drafted him, traded him away and their upper management just

483
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 2: nuked him on the way out the door, basically calling

484
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 2: him a fat ass. He's gonna be more motivated than ever.

485
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 2: He's one of the most he's one of the most

486
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Speaker 2: vicious competitors that we have in the game of basketball.

487
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 2: I refuse to believe that this is all the Lakers

488
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 2: are going to do. I don't know how you could

489
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Speaker 2: expect to convince Luca this is the right spot for

490
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 2: him by punting. The summer of twenty twenty seven is

491
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 2: two years from now, Guys, You're gonna punt two years

492
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 2: of Luka Doncic's prime for a free agent signing that

493
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 2: hasn't happened, and there has not been a meaningful, needle

494
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: moving free agent star signing in the NBA in years.

495
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 2: It just doesn't happen. That is a huge risk. So

496
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 2: I refuse to believe this is all the Lakers are

497
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 2: going to do. Like I'm I'm not even going down

498
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 2: the oh, Rob Polinka's incompetent, He's doing it again route.

499
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 2: I just refuse to believe it. They have to do

500
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 2: something in terms of an aggressive trade to bolster their

501
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 2: talent level before the start of next season. I just

502
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: can't like. Look, Jake Laavia signs two years, twelve million,

503
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 2: he'll basically be the Dorian Finney Smith replacement. This is

504
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 2: not a big shock any of you Lakers fans who've

505
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: been following the team over the course last few months.

506
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,479
Speaker 2: He's been hanging out, working out with Austin all summer.

507
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: There was that video of Austin with Jake in the

508
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: car and they were basically strongly hinting at the fact

509
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 2: that Jake would be a potentially a Laker. So not

510
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: a big surprise there. Some agency politics probably taking place

511
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 2: as well. There is some upside there. La Ravia has

512
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 2: more off the dribble pop than Dorian Phinney Smith, and

513
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 2: you guys saw how in the Minnesota Series DFS when

514
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: he got chased off the line. It was a problem

515
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: when Dorian Phinney Smith put the ball on the floor

516
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 2: and went into the lane. La Ravia is a better

517
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: closeout attacker than Dorian Phinney Smith. He's also like a younger,

518
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: better athlete, so there's some upside there. But I do

519
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 2: still think that Dorian Finney Smith is the better player

520
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: in the championship context. He has better length, he has

521
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 2: a lot more experience guarding a lot of different types

522
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: of players. He's just a rock solid veteran rotation player. Now,

523
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 2: I don't think Dorian fenn Smith can be one of

524
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: your top five players anymore. That's why I've been advocating

525
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: for ruyhajamurge trades to try to bring in a starting three.

526
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: But I do believe that Dorian can play twenty plus

527
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 2: serious minutes of playoff basketball for you off the bench,

528
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: kind of like we were talking about with the Nuggets

529
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 2: in that sixth and seventh slot for serious championship teams.

530
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: In other words, I like Jake Larevia and I'm excited

531
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: to watch him with the Lakers. I think he has

532
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 2: some upside, but I think the Lakers are a worst

533
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 2: team today than they would have been if they just

534
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: re upped with Dorian Finney Smith. So ultimately, as we

535
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: zoom out, you make the Laavia deal, you let Dorian

536
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: Phinney Smith walk, you're maintaining cat flexibility. I understand that

537
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: your strategy has to ship host Luca, and I understand

538
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 2: that you can't be as in the moment as you

539
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 2: were in Lebron and ad With the Lebron and ad Era,

540
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 2: you didn't see five years in the future, so you

541
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: had to be more aggressive in the short term. Yes,

542
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: Luka Doncic. There's a chance he's with the Lakers to

543
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 2: thirty four to thirty five years old, maybe even later.

544
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 2: So I understand that you need to have a little

545
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 2: bit more of a prudent approach to handling this every summer.

546
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: But he's gonna be twenty seven next year. You cannot

547
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 2: be punting seasons in his prime. You now have to

548
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 2: kind of like toe the line of making just a

549
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: little bit more savvy, aggressive moves that don't completely sell

550
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: out your future, Like you don't want to be given

551
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: away every pick and swap that you have. I understand

552
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: you don't want to be given away every young player

553
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 2: that you have, Like ideally, like Dalton Connect to me

554
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: is a guy that like made a lot of sense

555
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: to trade when it was a Lebron and Ad structure.

556
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: Dalton Connect now probably wouldn't trade him unless it was

557
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: for a starting caliber player because now Dalton kind of

558
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: feels like a player that fits Luca's timeline. I'm not

559
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: debating that your strategy needs to change entering into the

560
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 2: Luca era, but you cannot just sit there with the

561
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: status quo and then be like, hey, Luca, we'll reapproach

562
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: this when you're twenty nine, and we'll see how we

563
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: feel at that point. You don't even haven't locked up yet,

564
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: So that I thought was strange. I refuse to believe it.

565
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: I will be shocked if they don't make some sort

566
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: of aggressive trade to bolster their talent level before the

567
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: start of next season. All right, let's start ripping through

568
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: our rapid fire segment. Dorian Phinney Smith to the Rockets

569
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Speaker 2: four years, fifty three million. We talked about this yesterday,

570
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: so I'm not going to go into much more detail,

571
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: but I think it's a really good move for them.

572
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: They have so much leftover and draft compensation that if

573
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: they had to pivot off of Dori Infinny Smith, like

574
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: in that third year of the contract or something like that,

575
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: they could. This Houston team is just so well positioned

576
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: for the future that paying Dorian Finney Smith four years

577
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: is not going to be what makes or breaks their success.

578
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: So I'm not particularly worried about that. It's just an

579
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 2: aggressive move to capitalize on the KD timeline, which I

580
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: one hundred percent support. He addresses two needs shooting and experience. Again,

581
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: don't I don't like him when he's in your core five.

582
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: But if he can be that sixth player in your lineup,

583
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: that seventh player in your lineup, which is what he'll

584
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: be for Houston. I think it makes a ton of sense.

585
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: The Rockets also signed Clint Cappella, so they now have

586
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: three rotation centers on the roster. This is an extremely deep,

587
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: extremely big basketball team. Not hard to see why they

588
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: have the second best odds on Draft Kings right now

589
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: at plus seven hundred to win the title. Nikhil Alexander

590
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: Walker to the Hawks four years sixty two million, as

591
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: well as Luke Canard to the Hawks at one year

592
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: in eleven million. If you are going to try to

593
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: pivot around Trey Young to maximize him, what would you do.

594
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: We talked about this with Sam Vessini when we did

595
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Speaker 2: our pre draft thing. There are these players in the

596
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,959
Speaker 2: NBA that excel at creating advantages. We talked about this

597
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: with James Harden yesterday. We're going to talk about it

598
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: in a very discounted poor man sense when we get

599
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: to D'Angelo Russell here in a minute. Trey Young is

600
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: still one of the better advantage creators in the NBA.

601
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,479
Speaker 2: That is such a strong foundation because it puts all

602
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: your role players in a situation where defenders are often

603
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: sprinting at them instead of squared up on them. And

604
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: so that when you have advantage creation as your foundation,

605
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: it adds a great deal of value to what you

606
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,239
Speaker 2: surround that advantage creation in in terms of players that

607
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: can dribble, pass, shoot, and defend, just classic role player

608
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: responsibilities off the ball. This summer, the Hawks have been

609
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: investing in that depth. You already had three great options

610
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: right in the middle of that lineup, Dyson Daniels at

611
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: the two, Zachary Rissaschet and Jalen Johnson in the front court.

612
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: You're adding nikiel Al Lexander Walker to that for depth.

613
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: You're adding Luke Canard to that for depth. In a

614
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: wide open East, they're giving themselves a puncher's chance. They

615
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: watched what Indiana did. Indiana had their advantage creator, Oklahoma

616
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,239
Speaker 2: City had their advantage creators. They surrounded them with a

617
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: bunch of depth and athleticism and guys that can dribble, shoot,

618
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: pass and defend. And it worked and those teams got

619
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 2: to the finals. Atlanta is looking at the room, they're

620
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 2: reading the room and they're saying, we have one of

621
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: those guys. What if we just follow that same mold

622
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: and like I like, I think Atlanta should be eyeing

623
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: a top four seed this year. I think that should

624
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: be their goal. I think it's completely realistic that if

625
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: they attack the season from the start and they have

626
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: good health and all of these dudes get you know,

627
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 2: just really really invested in the attention to detail from

628
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: day one. There there's no reason in the world. While

629
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: the Hawks can't, why the Hawks can't have a home

630
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: court advantage in the first round. The Nick's bolster their bench.

631
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: Jordan Clarkson is now Nick. Ran four hundred and sixteen

632
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: pick and rolls in ISOs for the Jazz last year,

633
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: including including passes. He generated four hundred and six points

634
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: on those four hundred and sixteen pick and rolls in ISOs,

635
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: so just under a point per possession. He was forty

636
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: four percent on unguarded catch and shoot jump shots that's

637
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: really good, and thirty five percent on pull up threes,

638
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: which is fine. So I view him as just an

639
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: upgrade to the Campaign spot, a legitimate upgrade. The Knicks

640
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: are a better team with him as their backup guard

641
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: instead of Campaign. Whershaon Yaboseli Yabaselli leveraged an awesome Olympics

642
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: run with France to get himself a spot in the

643
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: NBA last year, and he demonstrated for the seventy six

644
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Speaker 2: ers that his skill does translate. He can shoot the ball.

645
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: He's a legit spacing big. He used forty three percent

646
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: field goals on unguarded ketch and shoot jump shots. Last year.

647
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: He was thirty six percent on pick and pop three.

648
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: So his percentages dip a tiny bit when he's on

649
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: the move, but he's still very effective there. Thirty six

650
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: percent is well over a point per posents. Now he's

651
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: on ball. Stuff didn't translate super well. He wasn't super

652
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: efficient in the post. Some of his driving closeout possessions

653
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: weren't great. But I do think the Knicks are more

654
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: invested in that shooting piece than they are invested in

655
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: some of the close out attacking on ball stuff with

656
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: what they have with Jordan Clarkson and Michale Bridges and

657
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: og and Andobi and Karl Anthony Towns, so I think

658
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: it's a good fit on that front. Now. His lack

659
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 2: of foot speed was an issue playing defense in the

660
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: NBA with the Sixers last year, but just like we

661
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 2: talked about with Bobby Portis yesterday. That's not exactly uncommon

662
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 2: with backup bigs, And if Yabaselli was a good defensive

663
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: anchor in addition to being like a legit stretch big,

664
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Speaker 2: he'd be getting somewhere closer to what Miles Turner got.

665
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: So I like at this point as a backup big,

666
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: I think he's just as good an option as you'll

667
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 2: find for most of these other offensively minded centers at

668
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: like Thomas Bryant or you know, Bobby Portis. These these

669
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 2: guys that can shoot and do a lot on offense,

670
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 2: but are obviously going to come with defense some shortcomings.

671
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 2: It puts you in a situation where usually you would

672
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: prefer to have also a backup defensive big for specific

673
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: types of matchups. But I like yabusel Is a rotation

674
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 2: option for the Knicks. The Knicks needed depth to cut

675
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: their starters minutes so that they could emphasize attention to

676
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 2: detail from possession to possession from day one of the

677
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 2: season under a new coach. These moves help anchor that ability.

678
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: Makes a lot of sense for the Knicks. D'Angelo Russell

679
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 2: to the MAVs two years thirteen million. To me, he's

680
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 2: the discounted poor Man's version of what James Harden is

681
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 2: in this league a really high floor offensive engine relative

682
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 2: to other players in his salary bracket. The fit with

683
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: the Lakers is I'll give you, guys, an example from

684
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: the Lakers. So pick and roll for Lebron James and

685
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis never really came to fruition because they both

686
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 2: were guarded by similar types of players. AD was typically

687
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: guarded by big forwards. Lebron is typically guarded by big forwards,

688
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: So most teams would just end up switching that app

689
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: whenever they could. There were rare examples where they'd go

690
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: up against a big that couldn't switch, like a use

691
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 2: of nrkis for Phoenix, for instance, and Lebron and AD

692
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: would just eviscerate those dudes in pick and roll. But

693
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: it just was too rare and it was too specific

694
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: of a type of matchup that they needed for that

695
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 2: to function. D LOO was always guarded by, you know,

696
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: the by a smaller guard and Anthony Davis being guarded

697
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 2: by a bigger ford. They were not switching that action,

698
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: and so DLO was able to take advantage of a

699
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 2: lot of the baked in drop coverage reads that were

700
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: available to him in the Laker offense, and he was

701
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: very good there. He had awesome chemistry with Anthony Davis

702
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: because of the lack of switching in that action. He

703
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 2: was actually the guy that set up Anthony Davis with

704
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: the majority of his role man opportunities relative to like

705
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: what Lebron was able to do or Austin who was

706
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: you know, obviously developing as a pick and roll ball

707
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: handler throughout that year. But to Medlo, if you look

708
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 2: at this MAVs team, they're in desperate need of ball handling,

709
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: he already has good chemistry. Fit with ad at two

710
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: years thirteen million to get a high floor defense, high

711
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: floor offensive engine on a team that is just stacked

712
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: with defensive talent. I love the fit. I think it's

713
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 2: literally perfect. This makes the Dallas Mavericks better in the

714
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: short term. All right, we have six more quick hitters

715
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 2: before we get out of here today. Brook Lopez to

716
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: the Clippers two years, eighteen million. I really like this deal.

717
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: We've talked a lot over the years about drop coverage

718
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: being a bracket. So in modern pick and roll coverage

719
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 2: in the NBA, you have two sides of the coverage, right,

720
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 2: you have the guy chasing over the top of the screen,

721
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: and then you have the guy defending the screener at

722
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: various positions, either up at the level or further back

723
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: in a deeper drop. Now what ends up happening is

724
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: these guys are so good at scoring in the mid

725
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 2: range that there's more responsibility on those ball handlers become

726
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: up up to the level in screens, especially when the

727
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: on ball guy is struggling in his side of the bracket.

728
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,959
Speaker 2: If the top guy in the bracket, the on ball

729
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: guy stays attached and chases over the top, then he

730
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 2: can't take a pull up mid ranger, he can't take

731
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: a floater, He'll get blocked. It forces the ball handler,

732
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: it funnels him into the rim protector. But when that

733
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 2: guy is not doing his job, when he's getting hit

734
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: on the screen and suddenly there's separation, there's way more

735
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 2: pressure on the big and the other side of that

736
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: bracket to come up high to the level to contest

737
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: and to disrupt the ball handler coming downhill and pick

738
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Speaker 2: and roll. Right. With Milwaukee, a team that really struggled

739
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: with their perimeter defense talent, brook Lopez was exposed as

740
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: a big that could struggle to guard in space at

741
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: this phase of his career. The Clippers are a team

742
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: that can consistently keep high, high quality perimeter defenders on

743
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 2: the floor that do a better job in their part

744
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: of the bracket. So while we all agree Brook is

745
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 2: not as good at extending his bracket of the coverage

746
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 2: up higher to the level as he used to be,

747
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: he isn't going to have to as often in a

748
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: Clipper system that has better perimeter defense talent chasing over

749
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 2: the top. I think it's a really good fit for Brook.

750
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: I think it's a really interesting example of a team

751
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: that can bring really physically imposing center play for forty

752
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: eight minutes now that backup center spot has been an

753
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: issue throughout the Zubats era. Really really like Brook for

754
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 2: the Clippers. I think that's a big get. They're a

755
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: better team today than they were yesterday. Ti Jerome three years,

756
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 2: twenty eight million to the Memphis Grizzlies. For your Memphis fans,

757
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: Ti Jerome was the best backup guard in the NBA

758
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 2: last year. A very very dynamic pick and roll score,

759
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: an absolutely deadly floater. He was the best floater shooter

760
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: in the NBA by a mile. Just a really, really

761
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: impactful player in ball screens, coming over the top, getting

762
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: the defense stuck behind him, shooting that little pop shot

763
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: in the lane. I thought he was the best backup

764
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: guard in the NBA last year, and then he completely

765
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 2: and utterly decomposed in the playoffs with the Caps. So

766
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 2: the way I look at it, if you're a Grizzlies fan,

767
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: you gotta betting on embarrassment doing the job here. We

768
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: talked a lot about competitiveness over the course of the

769
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: last couple of days. If Ty Jerome is the competitor

770
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 2: that I believe he is, you bet your ass. He's

771
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: been sitting on his couch every single night the last

772
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 2: couple of months, just beating himself up over how poorly

773
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: he played in that Pacers series. That will motivate him

774
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: to round out his game even further in his offseason work.

775
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: I think it's a good chance that Memphis gets a

776
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 2: very good version of Ty Jerome next year. I think

777
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 2: it could be a really good fit for them, and

778
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 2: at that number, that's a lot of ball handling talent there.

779
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: Kris Lavert two years, twenty nine million to the Detroit

780
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: Pistons an emergency pivot to find guard depth after Malik

781
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: Beasley ends up getting embroiled in a gambling scandal. I

782
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: like Karrislavert. He's an interesting player. He's got a bit

783
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: of tunnel vision as a ball handler, which can lead

784
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: to him taking some iffy shots, but he has some

785
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: real utility as a bench guard because he can legit

786
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: get separation and create shots for himself. And because he

787
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: doesn't pass the ball much, he doesn't turn the ball

788
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 2: over very much, which can lead to a higher floor

789
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 2: defense in the units that he leads. And I think

790
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 2: he's a very good defender when he's healthy and locked in.

791
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: He's got great length, he slides his feet super well.

792
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 2: I think he's a good piece for bench depth on

793
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: this Pistons squad. Now, I was hopeful that they would

794
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 2: be able to facilitate this Dennis Schroder sign and trade

795
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 2: to the Kings for a guy like Malik Monk. I

796
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: think Malik Monk would have been such a fun fit

797
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 2: for the Detroit Pistons. Who knows if they end up

798
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: working out a similar deal at some point down the line.

799
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: But Dennis Schroeder did end up signing with the Kings

800
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 2: as well, which I think is hilarious because the Kings

801
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 2: will probably be the team that gets Dennis Schroeder one

802
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: year two late, which is classic Sacramento Kings. I like

803
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: Dennis Schroeder. I've been a big fan of him rooting

804
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: over the years, but just with each passing year, he

805
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 2: gets a little bit slower on that dribble drive, a

806
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 2: little bit less capable of getting into the teeth of

807
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: the defense, and it just feels like the Kings might

808
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: be getting him one year too late. But I keep

809
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: an eye on the Pistons and the Kings. I think

810
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: Malik Monk would be a really fun fit for a

811
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Speaker 2: Pistons team that also is probably viewing the Eastern Conference

812
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 2: as wide open and gettable. Luca Garza to Boston for

813
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: two years five point five million and Luke Cornett to

814
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: the San Antonio Spurs at four years, forty one million.

815
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: These deals are connected because clearly the Celtics are not

816
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: interested in continuing any of their payroll issues that they have.

817
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: They want to keep their payroll down, which makes sense

818
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 2: under the circumstances. I think Luke Cornett is a really

819
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: good player, and having him at that number in San

820
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: Antonio's a win. He's not exceptional at anything, but He's

821
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 2: pretty solid at everything, and I think that that is

822
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 2: a really good option as a backup big in this league.

823
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: Luke Garza Luca Garza, excuse me, was an end of

824
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: the bench big for Minnesota over the years. Very aggressive

825
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: scorer in his minutes. It's a crazy stat Luca Garza's

826
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: career in the NBA. He's at twenty two point three

827
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: points per thirty six minutes in his NBA career. It

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Speaker 2: takes a lot of threes and pick and pop situations

829
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 2: and spacing situations. A very aggressive offensive, rebounder and finisher

830
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: around the rim. He hasn't shot the three at a

831
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: high percentage yet, but he'll be a fun player in

832
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: Boston as just an aggressive scoring big off the bench.

833
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 2: And then, lastly, Tias Jones one year, seven million dollars

834
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: with the Orlando matt Do you guys remember all the

835
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: stuff that I said about Tias with respect to Phoenix

836
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: and Houston. I talked about how I hated him with

837
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: Phoenix as a fit because this was a team that

838
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: had a redundancy of ball handling and a complete lack

839
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 2: of overall physicality, and it just led to Tias being

840
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: one of their worst plus minus guys all year long

841
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: because his skill set just didn't It was a diminishing

842
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: return rather than a force multiplier. I liked him as

843
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: a fit for Houston, if you guys remember, because Houston

844
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: needed ball handling and had plenty of physicality to surround

845
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: him with. The same concept applies here for Orlando. This

846
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: is an Orlando team that could use some steady ball

847
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 2: handling off the bench. Obviously they lose Cole Anthony in

848
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: this process. Tias Jones, to me, is a force multiplier

849
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 2: for a Orlando Magic team because the spot up shooting,

850
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 2: the reliable spot up shooting, and the off the dribble

851
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: ability to create shots for his teammates is super valuable

852
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: in an Orlando team that needs that and that can

853
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: anchor him with all the defensive talent to prevent his

854
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: lack of physicality from being an issue. Tias has his

855
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: issues with off ball focus and attention. He gets back

856
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: cut a lot, he gives up a lot offensive rebounds.

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Speaker 2: He's not a good defensive player. That's all stuff that

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Speaker 2: he's got to work out. But this is an Orlando

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Speaker 2: team that can support him and bolster him on that

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Speaker 2: end of the floor. So I think it makes a

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Speaker 2: lot of sense. All right, guys, That's all I have

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Speaker 2: for today is always, I sincerely appreciate you guys for

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Speaker 2: supporting us and supporting the show. Obviously, if something crazy

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Speaker 2: happens today, we'll react to it. But I am driving

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Speaker 2: back from Denver to Tucson tomorrow, so our plan at

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Speaker 2: this point is to be back on Thursday morning. We're

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Speaker 2: going to kind of zoom out from Free Agency and

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Speaker 2: kind of look at our biggest winners in biggest losers.

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Speaker 2: I will see you guys then. What's up guys? As always,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you for listening to and supporting Oops tonight.

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Speaker 2: They would actually be really helpful for us if you

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Speaker 2: guys would take a second and leave a rating and

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Speaker 2: a review. As always, I appreciate you guys supporting us,

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Speaker 2: but if you could take a minute to do that,

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Speaker 2: I'd really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: The volume