WEBVTT - 012024 Some Quotes from Dr. King, Himself (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>Keep on riding with us as we continue to broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>the balance and defend the discourse from these hip hop

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<v Speaker 1>weekly studios. Once again, I'm your host, Rams's jah who

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<v Speaker 1>is jah am q Ward? And today, if you don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>we are still kind of recapping the many ways in

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<v Speaker 1>which doctor Martin Luther King Junior has been whitewashed and

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<v Speaker 1>his legacy has been co opted to support all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of crazy narratives and crazy campaigns and pieces of legislature

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth. A piece of legislation I mean to

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<v Speaker 1>say that doctor King would not stand for. And so

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<v Speaker 1>it's up to us and people like us to continue

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<v Speaker 1>to cement in the minds of you our listeners exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what doctor King stood for and to ensure that those

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<v Speaker 1>folks really do believe that doctor King was a good man,

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<v Speaker 1>know a little bit more about him. And so today's show,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, is dedicated to making sure that that is

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<v Speaker 1>a dablished. But before we continue, let's discuss Baba becoming

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<v Speaker 1>we want you to consider donating to the Kingcenter dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll share a bit about the King Center. Established

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty eight by Missus Kreta Scott King, the

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<v Speaker 1>Martin Luther King Junior Center for Nonviolent Social Change aka

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<v Speaker 1>the King Center has been a global destination, resource center,

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<v Speaker 1>and community institution for over a quarter century. The King

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<v Speaker 1>Center is a five oh one c three and nearly

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<v Speaker 1>a million people each year make the pilgrimage to the

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<v Speaker 1>national Historic site to learn, be inspired, and pay their

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<v Speaker 1>respects to doctor King's legacy. Again, we'd like you to

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<v Speaker 1>make a donation, so you can do so at Civil

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<v Speaker 1>Rights Museum dot org and you can make a donation

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<v Speaker 1>at the Kingcenter dot org. And the Civil Rights Museum

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<v Speaker 1>dot org is the National Civil Rights Museum. It's located

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<v Speaker 1>in Memphis, Tennessee. It's headed up by doctor russ Wiggington,

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<v Speaker 1>and that kind of encapsulates the last few moments of

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<v Speaker 1>doctor King's life because the museum is on the grounds

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<v Speaker 1>of the Lorrain Motel where doctor King was assassinated, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they discuss really what he stood for, the direction

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<v Speaker 1>in which he was moving, and they've turned that museum

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<v Speaker 1>building and a building across the street and some other

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<v Speaker 1>The campus has expanded since first being initiated. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to learn about doctor King's legacy and really

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<v Speaker 1>the whole movement for social justice and civil rights, and

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<v Speaker 1>again you can check them out at Civil Rights Museum

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<v Speaker 1>dot org. And don't forget about the King Center, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the Kingcenter dot org. So I think that in

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<v Speaker 1>order to honor the legacy of doctor King, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to take some time to review some of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that MLK said and just kind of let them diffuse

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<v Speaker 1>into the community so that folks know that this wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>just a non violent, peaceful protester. This was a man

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<v Speaker 1>who was a great thinker and someone that was able

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<v Speaker 1>to touch on many things that still affect the black

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<v Speaker 1>community today. But unfortunately he was assassinated before he got

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where he was able to really get

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<v Speaker 1>that off and show folks that a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>ideas that we're dealing with right now are not new.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, some of them were very much pronounced during

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<v Speaker 1>the time of doctor King, some even reflected in some

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<v Speaker 1>of his words, and so again I thought that was

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<v Speaker 1>important because a lot of times folks will say to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people on the streets that are protesting, or

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<v Speaker 1>people that you know have a very charged way of

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<v Speaker 1>describing their black folks on the other side, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever their opposition is, a lot of times folks like

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<v Speaker 1>to point to doctor King and say, well, doctor King

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<v Speaker 1>was nonviolent, and therefore.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think they mistake that for him being a.

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<v Speaker 1>Passivist, exactly exactly, And again I thought that it was

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<v Speaker 1>necessary for us to have this conversation. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that has been touted more recently is his statement

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<v Speaker 1>that a riot is the language of the unheard, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that's a profound statement. And a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of folks who don't know this, but some of the

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<v Speaker 1>protests that doctor King took pardon or organized, they had

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<v Speaker 1>some folks in there that would act up. And when

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<v Speaker 1>those folks acted up, you know, that gave the authorities

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<v Speaker 1>and police and so forth license to get in there

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<v Speaker 1>and use the water hoses and the dogs and all that.

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<v Speaker 3>Sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>If you see this old footage, I don't want you

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<v Speaker 1>to think that a water hose is going up against

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<v Speaker 1>the water holes like that is easy. You know, it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he got sprayed with some water his wedd He's fine. No,

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<v Speaker 1>those things hurt anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Law enforcement also didn't always wait for sure those people

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<v Speaker 2>to act up and give them license. They showed up

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of times ready to ready for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we've seen that and would.

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<v Speaker 2>Create that excuse even if it didn't exist.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've seen that in more recent protests too, and

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<v Speaker 1>Etcide examples. But you know, Google's there if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to look at that. But in the past there were

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<v Speaker 1>some people that would act up, and folks don't That

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<v Speaker 1>part hasn't translated. I think a lot of people have

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<v Speaker 1>this idea that everything Doctor King took.

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<v Speaker 3>Part of was super peaceful.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody showed up, they prayed, and then they went home.

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<v Speaker 1>But this statement that he made that a riot is

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<v Speaker 1>the language of the unheard is profound because not only

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<v Speaker 1>does it reflect that during his time there were riots

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<v Speaker 1>and there was you know, people that were lashing out

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<v Speaker 1>in a physical manner to challenge authority, the status quo, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>But it also reflects the hopelessness that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people experience. You have to think that.

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<v Speaker 3>Before people take to the streets, they've already had to

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<v Speaker 3>live through whatever it is that they've lived through, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's likely that they've also gone through all of the

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<v Speaker 3>proper channels to try to suggest some.

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<v Speaker 1>Sort of alternative or you know, air out their grievances

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<v Speaker 1>or get someone to remedy an issue that they're dealing with.

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<v Speaker 1>And then after living through it and after going through

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<v Speaker 1>the proper channels, you know, these things sometimes can take years.

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<v Speaker 1>Oftentimes they do. Then they take to the streets to protest,

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<v Speaker 1>to show that there are many of us, and we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to protest, and we're going to stand in solidarity,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are going to challenge. We're going to show

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<v Speaker 1>that we are all committed to this cause. And then

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<v Speaker 1>if that happens, and it happens again and again and again,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no progress, there's no forward progress. And absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>there can be a lot of hopelessness in a group

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<v Speaker 1>like that. You know, when you get out there and

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<v Speaker 1>you listen to someone talking someone again, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the more recent protest that I've taken part in,

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard, of course, mothers that had to bury their

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<v Speaker 1>children at you know, the hands of injustice one way

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<v Speaker 1>or another, and that sadness in that that hopelessness is

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<v Speaker 1>something that permeates, It translates to the crowd. Because we're

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<v Speaker 1>all human beings. We have we have the capacity, if

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<v Speaker 1>we're healthy mentally, to empathize with each other. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of helps us survive as a species. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that hopelessness and that feeling that no one's listening

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<v Speaker 1>is something that is not new. I think that that

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<v Speaker 1>statement by doctor King that you know, a riot is

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<v Speaker 1>the language of the unheard. I think it really has

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<v Speaker 1>manifested itself in my life and I've seen examples of

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<v Speaker 1>that in my immediate surroundings, where you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that it's just worth mentioning. So that's one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>doctor King said that doesn't get brought up enough, even

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<v Speaker 1>though it's been brought up recently, it doesn't get brought

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<v Speaker 1>up enough because again people, I think there's this idea

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<v Speaker 1>that all black people need to be like doctor King

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<v Speaker 1>and then all their problems will go away. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously, if you're listening to my voice, maybe this

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<v Speaker 1>is not a sentiment that you know, maybe you're not

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<v Speaker 1>that short sighted, but there may be people in your

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<v Speaker 1>life and your immediate family that think that black people's

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<v Speaker 1>problems are just their own problems, and admittedly some problems

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<v Speaker 1>are black folks to deal with.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop acting black ramses and you'll be.

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<v Speaker 1>Fine, do you understand? And then the example, unfortunately, is

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<v Speaker 1>that if you act like doctor King or some black

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<v Speaker 1>person that reflects their worldview, that somehow things will be

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<v Speaker 1>better for you. And it's just it's very unfair and

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<v Speaker 1>very shortsighted. And so again this conversation is necessary another

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<v Speaker 1>such statement, and I want to get your thoughts on

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<v Speaker 1>this que however difficult it is to hear, however shocking

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<v Speaker 1>it is to hear, We've got to face the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that America is a racist country. That was said by

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Martin Luther King Jr.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think I think that when you use

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<v Speaker 2>Martin Luther King Jr. As the reference or even the

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<v Speaker 2>vehicle for that statement. As long as I can look

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<v Speaker 2>at that statement as having been made fifty years ago

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<v Speaker 2>as a person, as a member of the group that

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<v Speaker 2>benefits most from racism, it's always easier to look at

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<v Speaker 2>it as a really really difficult blemish on our countries,

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful on our countries, otherwise beautiful resume, but as a

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<v Speaker 2>blemish from yesteryear. Man, they're very I won't say very.

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<v Speaker 2>People tend to be more comfortable and can reconcile easier

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<v Speaker 2>when they speak about racism as something that used to

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<v Speaker 2>be a problem in America. Right, racism from the past, sure, contemporary.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're pushing it. You might even be tripping. It

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<v Speaker 2>might even be your imagination, right if you just and

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<v Speaker 2>then there's a laundry list of things that they say. Comply,

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<v Speaker 2>act right, be respectful, be polite, don't do anything wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll be fine. In our country's lack of ability to

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<v Speaker 2>properly reconcile, straightforwardly apologize and straightforwardly try to correct its

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<v Speaker 2>original sin is why it has no chance of going

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<v Speaker 2>away at any point. If you think about apartheid in

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<v Speaker 2>South Africa, South Africa had to say, man, we was tripping. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course not in those words, right, But South

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<v Speaker 2>Africa had to face itself and say, these are all

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<v Speaker 2>the things that we did wrong to you, to you,

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<v Speaker 2>to you, and then South Africa as a country could

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<v Speaker 2>self heal and self repair. But they couldn't deny what

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<v Speaker 2>was going on and think that there was going to

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<v Speaker 2>be any progress made. Our biggest issue is that denying

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<v Speaker 2>the original sin, and even those that accept it pretending

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<v Speaker 2>like it's something that happened to our great grandparents and

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<v Speaker 2>not something that still happens to our children.

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<v Speaker 3>Watch this.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was reading an article the other day about

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<v Speaker 1>a woman named Ruby Bridges. Ruby Bridges was the little

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<v Speaker 1>girl that had to be escorted to school by the

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<v Speaker 1>National Guard, then the National Guard of the Secret Service when.

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<v Speaker 2>They segregated her school desegregatoro.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Ruby Bridges is alive and well, still breathing air

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<v Speaker 1>on this planet. She's in her seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that had to be one hundred years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now she is a live and well.

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<v Speaker 1>So again to your point that you know America, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor King says it is a racist country, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know we're still dealing with that. Again, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that there are people like Ruby Bridges. I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned doctor Camilla Westenberg earlier. She came on the show

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<v Speaker 1>before and she told a story. I'll never forget it.

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<v Speaker 1>I listened in real time on the air as she

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<v Speaker 1>told me this story. She said that when she was

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<v Speaker 1>a little girl, she could not drink from water fountains,

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<v Speaker 1>she could not use the bathroom, certain restaurants she could

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<v Speaker 1>not go into and it was normal. She said, she

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<v Speaker 1>could not try on hats, God forbid, shoes to see

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<v Speaker 1>if they fit. And the kicker, she's still alive. I

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<v Speaker 1>love her with all my heart. Talked her on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone two three times a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it gets it's personal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And this is what she said, And this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that's perhaps the most personal thing of all. She

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<v Speaker 1>said when her and her family would go on road.

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<v Speaker 4>Trips, they had to carry like a like a bucket

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<v Speaker 4>with them in the car so that if they had

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<v Speaker 4>to use the bathroom, they would have some degree of

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<v Speaker 4>dignity because they were not allowed to use bathrooms like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's just the way it was. And so there

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<v Speaker 1>are people alive right now that have experienced that. So

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<v Speaker 1>for people to and then for people to look back

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<v Speaker 1>and say it was a racist country. So even if

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to say Ruby Bridges, doctor Westerberg, those folks

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<v Speaker 1>that are in their seventies, that it's from a different

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<v Speaker 1>time nowadays, and this year, you know, you know that's

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<v Speaker 1>a thing of the past. You know, we're very much

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with it. Obviously this year we've had to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with multiple murders, shootings from the police. You know, we've

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<v Speaker 1>had to come to terms with again, come to terms

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<v Speaker 1>with the statistics, because numbers don't lie, you know, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter how many how many people try to fudge the

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<v Speaker 1>numbers on Fox News or tell a different story with

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers. If you take things you know for what

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<v Speaker 1>they are, and you do your own research and just

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<v Speaker 1>look at them and draw your own conclusions, you end

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<v Speaker 1>up with facts.

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<v Speaker 2>Facts that.

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<v Speaker 1>Black people are three times as likely to be incarcerated

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<v Speaker 1>for drug offenses as white folks. White folks as a percentage,

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<v Speaker 1>are use drugs at a higher rate across the board,

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<v Speaker 1>with the exception of crack cocaine, and that is marginal.

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<v Speaker 1>So overwhelmingly white folks as a percentage, obviously as a

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<v Speaker 1>number because they're more of the population, but as a

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<v Speaker 1>percentage even use drugs more frequently. So how is it

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<v Speaker 1>the case that black people end up incarcerated at three

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<v Speaker 1>times a rate? And then we'll take it a step further.

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<v Speaker 1>The sentences given to black people are so much heavier,

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<v Speaker 1>so much more frequently. And that's just drugs, the war

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<v Speaker 1>on drugs everything else.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the really crazy part about the data is that

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<v Speaker 2>this information comes from our government. Yeah, we're not creating this.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not going around talking to our friends and polling

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<v Speaker 2>for our own statistics. The US Department of Justice will

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<v Speaker 2>give you these numbers. Google is free and will say

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<v Speaker 2>out loud that it's disproportionate, except it doesn't change. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we're getting to the point that we're making

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<v Speaker 1>with this statement that this is a racist country. There

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<v Speaker 1>are systemic you know, I know that that's a trigger

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<v Speaker 1>word for a lot of folks that don't really sympathize

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<v Speaker 1>with black folks's plight, you know, a lot, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>folks don't even know, you know, it's it's very easy.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the part that has begun to really really

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<v Speaker 2>poke at my spirit. Had I had the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>take you to Bibb County, Macon, Georgia, USA, where Reverend

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<v Speaker 2>Estella Seacrest, my mother was born and raised Georgia, and

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<v Speaker 2>we got to see this because people think Georgia is Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 2>There's Atlanta, yeah, and then there's a massive state that's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing like Atlanta. Atlanta's my mother's from Macon, She's not

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<v Speaker 2>from Atlanta, yeh. And the Southern experience for someone born

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineteen forties, And then you think about my grandmother.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a much different experience than ours, and and and

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<v Speaker 2>it was much more on its face, flagrant, violent, blatant racism.

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<v Speaker 2>Through our lifetime, it's been a bit more passive. The

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<v Speaker 2>idea of racism has been a bit more under the

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<v Speaker 2>table instead of slapping you in your face. Now, in

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<v Speaker 2>recent times, it's gotten horrible, and the statistics will bear

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<v Speaker 2>this out. During this last few years, for very very

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<v Speaker 2>obvious reasons, hate crimes and overt racism have escalated to

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<v Speaker 2>their highest numbers since the nineties. But you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>speak about our people not seeing it and being so

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<v Speaker 2>disconnected from it, that's a lot. You know, you talk

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<v Speaker 2>about voting in the election and just all the things

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<v Speaker 2>that we're dealing with, voter suppression, right, because my mother's

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen pre nineteen sixty five, So the experience of people

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<v Speaker 2>that look like us just deciding they're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>something to do with deciding who's going to run this

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<v Speaker 2>country was a lot different when she became of age

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<v Speaker 2>to vote than it was for me. So a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of these things, no matter how hard they try to deny,

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<v Speaker 2>I are making themselves a parent in front of everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>and people either have to choose to see it or

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<v Speaker 2>choose not to or decide not to rather they see

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<v Speaker 2>it willful. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So you know, if you're just tuning in to

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<v Speaker 1>Civic SCCER once again, I'm the host. Rams is joh

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<v Speaker 1>My name is ke Ward. Yes, indeed, and today's show

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about doctor Martin Luther King because we feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>or I certainly felt like he's largely misrepresented, and not

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<v Speaker 1>that that's bad, it's just there's more depth. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>misrepresent represented, that's the right word, definitely, because there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more to him than just you know, we shall overcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor King was a was a thinker, a brilliant man,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, but doctor King, a lot of folks look

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<v Speaker 1>at him like he was a patriot and if all

0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:59.439
<v Speaker 1>black folks do what doctor King did, everything will be fine,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, every body is going to get along

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<v Speaker 1>in harmony. But doctor King was very critical of this

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<v Speaker 1>country and the direction that it was going in. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that it was his being critical that ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>led to a lot of the changes, but then led

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<v Speaker 1>to his ultimate assassination. You know, obviously, if you play

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<v Speaker 1>the middle, you know you're not going to upset anyone,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, towards the end of his life again

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<v Speaker 1>he got a little bit more. He doubled down on

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of things, and you know, started to take

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<v Speaker 1>on new initiatives that would really empower black communities a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit further. And the conspiracy theory theories start at

0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:45.879
<v Speaker 1>that point. You know, a lot of black folks can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of see it, because that's just kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the world for us.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I don't want to get lost in

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<v Speaker 1>that rabbit hole for now. The episode is to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of revisit some of the things that he said so

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<v Speaker 1>that we can add some depth to this to this man,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that folks can understand and that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of what it is that black folks have been championing

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<v Speaker 1>or campaigning in you know, this past year, in recent years,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of those things are nothing new. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them are reflected in some of doctor King's language.

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<v Speaker 1>One such statement is large segments of white society are

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<v Speaker 1>more concerned with tranquility and the status quo than justice

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<v Speaker 1>and humanity. And I personally in it now in my

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<v Speaker 1>life is you know, doctor King was dead and gone

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<v Speaker 1>before I was even born. I still agree with that statement.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the status quo. As long as everything looks

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<v Speaker 1>like it looks now, we're fine. We don't need to engage.

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<v Speaker 1>What are they mad at? You know that they had

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<v Speaker 1>a black president? You know, all these things, And it's

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<v Speaker 1>a mechanism that a lot of white folks and just

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<v Speaker 1>people that maybe don't live around a lot of mixture,

0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:07.879
<v Speaker 1>racial mixture, that kind of you know, have put up

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<v Speaker 1>their walls and determined that the world looks the way

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<v Speaker 1>it looks, and they wanted to keep looking that way.

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<v Speaker 1>They can insulate themselves from this, and they can take

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<v Speaker 1>the responsibility out of their lap and try to place

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<v Speaker 1>it back into the laps of other folks. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that I know is that if there's something

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<v Speaker 1>that needs to be done, you know, black folks for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, will get it done.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we've seen that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, but again, that challenge when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>systemic things and to trying to move the needle on

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<v Speaker 1>a political in a political arena, or to take on

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<v Speaker 1>huge systems that were built to oppress you, that's a

0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:53.639
<v Speaker 1>long standing fight. And so again that statement, large segments

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<v Speaker 1>of white society are more concerned with tranquility and the

0:21:56.600 --> 0:22:01.040
<v Speaker 1>status quo than justice and humanity. I think it still

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<v Speaker 1>holds up.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that's going to do it for us here on

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<v Speaker 5>Civic Cipher once again. I'm your host, Rams's.

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<v Speaker 2>Joh he is Rams joh I mq ward. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>guys for tuning in with us again for another u

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<v Speaker 2>ah man, another one of these very very difficult journeys

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