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Speaker 2: This is a podcast that we do every single year

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Speaker 2: And obviously, predictions are a fool's errand no one ever

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk some basketball. So in terms of picks,

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Speaker 2: The blind spots were Minnesota and New York. So all

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Speaker 2: five series that I picked incorrectly either involved the Knicks

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Speaker 2: I learned in this postseason run. Number one, regular season

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Speaker 2: Number three Getting into some basketball tactics. Rim pressure is

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Speaker 2: roll gravity, cutting gravity, offensive glass crashing, all of those

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Speaker 2: have counters that defenses can use to minimize. Right. So,

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Speaker 2: for instance, like Minnesota was really good at beating people

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Speaker 2: off the dribble, but as soon as they packed the

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Speaker 2: paint with rim protection, it rendered that useless and suddenly

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Speaker 2: Minnesota had a big problem. Right, Dallas, they had the

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Speaker 2: advantage of roll gravity for their rim pressure. Sure well,

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Speaker 2: Boston puts Jason Tatum onto their center and Al Horford

436
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Speaker 2: switching screens that involved Derek Jones Jr. Suddenly that role

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Speaker 2: gravity is completely mitigated. Dallas can't generate rim pressure. Their

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Speaker 2: offense falls apart. Right. So, as much as rim pressure

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Speaker 2: is valuable, it's important to be able to do it

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Speaker 2: in a resilient way against different kinds of defense. How

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Speaker 2: do you handle beating people off the dribble by packing

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Speaker 2: the paint. How do you handle roll gravity, switching ball screens,

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Speaker 2: how do you handle cutting along the baseline. In order

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Speaker 2: for cuts to be open, you have to have that

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Speaker 2: initial advantage. So as long as you shut off the

446
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Speaker 2: dribble and shut off the pick and roll, those cuts

447
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 2: aren't even open anymore. As far as the offensive glas goes,

448
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Speaker 2: it's much harder to defensive rebound when you're in rotation.

449
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Speaker 2: So if you're containing the ball and you're containing the role,

450
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Speaker 2: offensive rebounds are that much harder to get right. So

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Speaker 2: it's not just rim pressure, it's resilient pressure. So, for instance,

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Speaker 2: Dallas was good at generating rim pressure on the roll,

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Speaker 2: but bad on the dribble, and so when the role

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Speaker 2: was shut down, they had no other way to generate

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Speaker 2: rim pressure right offense falls apart. Minnesota great at driving,

456
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Speaker 2: but no additional kinds of rim pressure. Their roller Rudy

457
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Speaker 2: Gobert is one of the worst role men in the league.

458
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Speaker 2: Has stone hands, struggles to make layups. If it's not

459
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Speaker 2: a wide open dunk, he's not getting it right. Also,

460
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Speaker 2: Minnesota's passers are not great at actually making the lob

461
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Speaker 2: pass when it's available, and so basically the role gravity

462
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Speaker 2: piece is missing for Minnesota, right, And so when one

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Speaker 2: gets shut off, everything gets shut off. Right. So what's

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Speaker 2: fascinating to me about Boston is they had resilient rim pressure.

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Speaker 2: If you put an excellent perimeter defender on Jason Tatum

466
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Speaker 2: and you made his life a living hell, someone else

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Speaker 2: was beating somebody off the dribble, try packing the paint

468
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Speaker 2: against Boston. It's not gonna work. They're too good at shooting, right.

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Speaker 2: So like when we see a dribble drive team with

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Speaker 2: a dribble drive guard, if they're gonna win four rounds,

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Speaker 2: they're probably gonna need to space the floor really well,

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Speaker 2: meaning they're gonna need to have a lot of shooting

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Speaker 2: around them. Right. If they're a pick and roll team

474
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Speaker 2: and they generate their rim pressure through the role, they

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Speaker 2: better have a counter. So, for instance, one of the

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Speaker 2: things that I was kind of disappointed in is I

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Speaker 2: did not think Luca did enough work in the post

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Speaker 2: against Boston. That is a great counter, and I should

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Speaker 2: have listed that as one of the ways you can

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Speaker 2: generate rim pressure. Posting up is a way to generate

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Speaker 2: rim pressure. And that's the thing like when teams switch

482
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Speaker 2: ball screens against Lebron and ad. What do they do

483
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Speaker 2: They spam Lebron and AD post ups as a counter

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Speaker 2: to that. Right, So, like again, having multiple ways to

485
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Speaker 2: generate rim pressure so that you can do so against

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Speaker 2: multiple types of defenses that ultimately will lead to consist

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Speaker 2: high quality shots. Right. So the last piece of this

488
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Speaker 2: is creating space. If you can create space that allows

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Speaker 2: you to maintain rim pressure. How can you create space

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Speaker 2: two ways shooting and spacing the floor with ball and

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Speaker 2: player movement. Right, start was shooting. The last three champions

492
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Speaker 2: were all elite shooting teams Boston elite shooters at all

493
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Speaker 2: eight rotation spots. That was how they generated spacing. Denver,

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Speaker 2: it was kind of inverted, but because Aaron Gordon was

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Speaker 2: running along the baseline and he's not a good spacer.

496
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Speaker 2: But because Jokic could operate away from the basket, that

497
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Speaker 2: created a spot for Aaron Gordon to operate along the baseline.

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Speaker 2: And then all four other starting spots were elite shooters

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Speaker 2: when they won the title. Jokic was an elite shooter,

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Speaker 2: Jamal Murray was an elite shooter. Michael Porter Junior was

501
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Speaker 2: an elite shooter. Kentavious Callwell Pope was an elite shooter,

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Speaker 2: so like they had elite shooting at the other four

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Speaker 2: spots and a perfect spot on the floor that was

504
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Speaker 2: vacant for Aaron Gordon to operate. That was where they

505
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 2: generated their spacing Golden State. Kevon Looney and Raymond Green

506
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 2: were dribble handoff guys, so like they didn't need to shoot.

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Speaker 2: They were primarily operating as fulcrums in the offense. But

508
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Speaker 2: every other player could shoot. They shot thirty eight percent

509
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Speaker 2: from three as a team in that playoff run. Lots

510
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Speaker 2: of guys for them stepped up and knocked down shots,

511
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Speaker 2: and so the ability to shoot the basketball is a

512
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Speaker 2: prerequisite nowadays. The last three champions were all really good

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Speaker 2: shooting teams. The second piece of it spacing the floor

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Speaker 2: with ball in player movement. So this was the rub

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Speaker 2: on Dallas, right. They ran the occasional action, but for

516
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Speaker 2: the most part it was a brute force. Here's a

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Speaker 2: guard screen at the start of the possession to get

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Speaker 2: a switch for Luca. Now we're going to run a

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Speaker 2: ball screen. They did some things like they clear the side. Occasionally,

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Speaker 2: they'd occasionally run a stack pick and roll or a

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Speaker 2: double drag or something like that. They ran occasional action.

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Speaker 2: But for the most part, it was very heliocentric, very

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Speaker 2: brute force, very methodical, very predictable. Right, and they they

524
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Speaker 2: made themselves easy to guard in Boston shut them down.

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00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 2: The last three teams to win the title were all

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Speaker 2: teams that either had excellent ball or player movement. How

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00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 2: did Boston win ball movement? Right? Beating someone off the dribble,

528
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: trusting the pass, the ball's popping around, this guy's driving,

529
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Speaker 2: that guy's driving, this guy's driving, that guy's driving. We're

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Speaker 2: getting a great shot out of it. Right. How did

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Speaker 2: Denver win awesome player movement? Right? They're a quintessential five

532
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Speaker 2: out offense. How did Golden State win awesome player movement?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: They're a quintessential five out offense. They had to rely

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Speaker 2: on some pick and roll against Boston's drop coverage in

536
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Speaker 2: the NBA Finals, but they also ran a lot of

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Speaker 2: their five out motion over the course of that series,

538
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: so they generated space with ball and player movement. You

539
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: have to be able to shoot. You have to keep

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Speaker 2: defenses guessing with the ball in players moving around as

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Speaker 2: much as possible. Number four offensive organization matters. This is

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Speaker 2: something that I was late to the party on and

543
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: It's something that I had a little bit too close

544
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: mind of an opinion on before the last couple of seasons,

545
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: and something that just covering the NBA very closely helped

546
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: me learn. I used to be Those of you guys

547
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: who have listened to the show for a while will

548
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: remember this. I used to believe. I used to be

549
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: a believer in brute force offense. And part of that

550
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Speaker 2: is because I grew up watching Lebron James, the one

551
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Speaker 2: guy in NBA history who's been able to like dominate

552
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: games in a very heliocentric type of manner. Although I

553
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: think it's overstated how heliocentric he was compared to some

554
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 2: of the guys that do it now. But Lebron was

555
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: a guy who could slowly dribble the ball off the

556
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Speaker 2: floor and call for a ball screen and it just

557
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: somehow was resilient through four rounds of the playoffs consistently right,

558
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: Like it worked for him in a way. But I mean, like,

559
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Speaker 2: Lebron is probably the most gifted athlete to ever play

560
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: in the NBA, if not the most gifted athlete to

561
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: ever play a sport, so like he's the accept that

562
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: proves the rule right, But like when it comes to

563
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: brute force offense. It worked in NBA history with overly

564
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: dominant physical presences, right, But for the most part, in

565
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: order to be a functional offense through multiple rounds, through

566
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: multiple matchups, with real resiliency, you do have to be

567
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: more complicated in your offensive approach. This is something again

568
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: I was late to the party, but to me, the

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Speaker 2: Dallas series just hammered it home Luca in terms of

570
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Speaker 2: the heliocentric guy, no one's doing it better than Luca

571
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Speaker 2: right now, and strictly on the offensive end, he was

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Speaker 2: doing it at a level pretty close to what prime

573
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Speaker 2: Lebron did, right, Like, that's how good Luca was. And

574
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: Boston shut their offense down. Guys, it wasn't they were

575
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: down a little bit. They were down like twenty percent

576
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Speaker 2: from where they were in the regular season. Their offense

577
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: completely cratered against Boston because they were too rudimentary. There

578
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: wasn't enough complication in their approach. They made themselves easy

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Speaker 2: to guard. And even the guy that might be the

580
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: best player in the world, I think he's probably closer

581
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: to second. But a guy who's a bona fide top

582
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: tier superstar was rendered relatively ineffective regardless of what his

583
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: box score numbers were, their offense didn't function, and that,

584
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Speaker 2: to me was like the final nail in the coffin

585
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: for that archaic belief that I had. I think you

586
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: need to have legitimate ball in player movement to win

587
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: in the modern NBA. And so I broke this down

588
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: into four parts, I should say, three parts with an

589
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: overarching take. First of all, you gotta run action to

590
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: start possessions, Like at the very least, you need to

591
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: be diligent when you get the ball up the floor

592
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: in the early phase of the clock to run something

593
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Speaker 2: that is more complex than just a ball screen with

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Speaker 2: a space floor. To me, what I'm looking at here

595
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: for the most part is things like three man action.

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Speaker 2: So let's just take horn sets for example. If you

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Speaker 2: at least start the possession with three guys involved, a

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Speaker 2: ball handler and two additional screeners, and maybe it's a

599
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: screen the screener, maybe it's a double drag, maybe it's

600
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Speaker 2: just something complicated at the start of the possession, it

601
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: will make it harder for the base defense to run

602
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: their base defensive scheme. Right, They're going to get into

603
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: some confusing situations because there's three people involved. In that

604
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: initial action rather than two. And like again, there are

605
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Speaker 2: going to be possessions where you run two man game

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Speaker 2: early in sets. Right, if you push in transition and

607
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: the transition defense gets back and you swing it back

608
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: out to the perimeter and you flow into a ball screen.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that you're not going to have possessions

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Speaker 2: like that that are in the flow. Of course you are.

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Speaker 2: But I think every NBA team should be striving to

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Speaker 2: have a higher percentage of their offense, a higher percentage

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Speaker 2: of their possessions that begin with something more complicated, just

614
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: something simple like like think of, for example, like Horn's chest,

615
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: the play that the Lakers used to run for Lebron

616
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: to or still run for Lebron to get a jump shot. Right,

617
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: So Anthony Davis, just imagine I'm the ball handler. I'm

618
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Speaker 2: standing at the top of the key, extended out close

619
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Speaker 2: to half court. Right, I've got Anthony Davis on the

620
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Speaker 2: left elbow extended up to up to three point line,

621
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Speaker 2: and I have Lebron at the right elbow extended up

622
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Speaker 2: to the three point line. I dribble off of Lebron

623
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Speaker 2: on a ball screen, and then Lebron comes off of

624
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: a d and a flare screen, you skip the ball

625
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: to Lebron over there. From there, if he's not open,

626
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: Lebron can catch and flow into a dribble hand off

627
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: with the guy coming out of the corner. And now

628
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Speaker 2: we can run five out motion right. But at the

629
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Speaker 2: very least at the start of the possession, we're gonna

630
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Speaker 2: make them defend something complicated, right, And the idea is,

631
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Speaker 2: let's say that's Austin Reeves that's on the ball. If

632
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Speaker 2: Austin Reeves comes off of Lebron at that right elbow,

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Speaker 2: if Lebron's man shows at all, then Lebron already has

634
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Speaker 2: separation as he comes off that second screen. If Lebron's

635
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Speaker 2: man doesn't show, and Lebron sets a good screen, Austin

636
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Speaker 2: Reeves is going downhill in the basket. He has to show, right.

637
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: But once he shows, now as Lebron comes off the

638
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Speaker 2: screen from Ad, now AD's man has to show. If

639
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: he doesn't, then Lebron gets a wide open catch and

640
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 2: shoot three. And he got a lot of wide open

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00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: catch and shoot threes out of that set this year.

642
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Speaker 2: Is a big part of They ran it a lot

643
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 2: because Lebron was shooting catching shoot three, so well, right,

644
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 2: So if Lebron's man doesn't show, Austin's going to the rim.

645
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: If he does when Lebron comes off Ad, now AD's

646
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 2: man has to make a decision. If AD's man shows

647
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: and Austin's man is chasing him and Lebron's man showed

648
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: on Austin, now AD's wide open on the roll. Right,

649
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 2: it gets much more complicated even from the standpoint of switching.

650
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: There are ways that that gets complicated. Okay, Austin's man

651
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: switches on to Lebron on Lebron's man switches on to Austin.

652
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: Then AD's man switches on to Lebron. Blah blah blah blah.

653
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 2: That gets complicated. And now that opens things up for switches,

654
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: bot switches slips, Like what if Lebron ran like he

655
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: was gonna go off AD and then just suddenly cut

656
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 2: down to the basket. They fuck up the switch. Now

657
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: he's wide open on the slip like that sort of

658
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: three man action is just so much harder to guard

659
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: than a two man action. A two man action, it's like,

660
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: are we switching cool? Are we icing cool? Are we

661
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 2: in drop? Are we in deep drop? Or am I blitzing?

662
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 2: Am I hedging, whatever it is. It's just so much

663
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: easier to manage in a two man get in a

664
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: two man game than it is in a three man game.

665
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,479
Speaker 2: If you just run up the floor and run stack,

666
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 2: pick and roll, meaning like you set up a ball screen,

667
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: but you have as Lebron's coming off of Ad, you

668
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 2: have Austin backscreen for AD's man. It's the same sort

669
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: of thing. There's if Austin's man shows to stop Ad

670
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: on the roll, then Austin's gonna be wide open for

671
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: three at the top of the key, right. If he doesn't,

672
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: then AD's gonna be wide open on the lot or

673
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: Lebron's gonna be able to go all the way to

674
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: the rim for layup because Austin just backscreened their rim protector. Right.

675
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: Like those are again, I'm not sitting here acting like

676
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 2: they're the magic elixer. Like if you run three man action,

677
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: you're just gonna get a wide open look every single time.

678
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 2: It just makes it harder. It makes it easier for

679
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 2: you as the offense to get the defense in rotation. Again,

680
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: if Lebron, let's imagine the horns chest set like I

681
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 2: just described, which again is just Austin dribbles off Lebron.

682
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 2: Lebron comes off of flare from Ad at the top

683
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: of the key. If Lebron catches there on the wing

684
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: and he's not wide open, chances are the defenders closing

685
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: out at him. If he's closing out at him, Lebron

686
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 2: can flow into a dribble handoff. And now that next

687
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: action gets complicated because Lebron's defender is out of position.

688
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: All it is is like think of it as like

689
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: trying to crack the defense the defenses, right, you crack

690
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: it at first, so it breaks on the next action.

691
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: And those are the phases, right, There's all these phases

692
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: to offense. Right, there's the push and transition. Right. Then

693
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 2: there's early offense, which is like semi transition. So if

694
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 2: like you push in transition and you don't get a dunk,

695
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: usually teams will have basic transition principles for early offense. Right,

696
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: Like early things, you run in the first few seconds

697
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: of the clock. Right, In the event that that doesn't work,

698
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: you either run into five out flow or you go

699
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: run a set right, depending on how much time is

700
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 2: left on the clock. Right, but let's say a guy

701
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 2: makes a free throw. Guy makes a free throw. You're

702
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: walking up the floor. The first step is run an action.

703
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 2: Run that three man action somewhere some sort of set

704
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 2: to at least crack the defense. Then you go into

705
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 2: your five out flow. Five out flow is just playing

706
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: basketball off of whatever the initial advantage is. So, for instance,

707
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 2: if Lebron in Horn's chest catches on the left wing

708
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 2: and he dribbles into a dribble hand off with let's

709
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: call it Ruey Hatchramura coming out of the left corner,

710
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: there would be a second guard, so let's call it

711
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: D'Angelo Russell or hypothetical third guard or second guard that

712
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: the Lakers trade for. Okay, so let's just say pretend

713
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: it's to John Taymury. Okay, Lebron go flows into the

714
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: dribble handoff, hands it to de Jonte Murray. As Dejontay

715
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 2: Murray comes out, Anthony Davis is sliding over to set

716
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 2: the second ball screen right, and it's just you're flowing

717
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: in basic five out principles, which are basically just dribble

718
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: handoffs and ball screens that flow into one another, and

719
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: whoever's in that opposite corner, whoever catches the kickout pass.

720
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: If he's not open for three. If he's not open

721
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 2: to drive a close out, he can flow into another action.

722
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 2: You run your initial set, and then you run five

723
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: out motion until you get some sort of compromising of

724
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 2: the defense, meaning they're actually in a straight up closeout situation.

725
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 2: Then you play driving kick basketball. Right, there's a phase

726
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 2: to it, and what I'm saying here is too many

727
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: teams skip that first phase, which is running an action

728
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 2: at the start of the possession, and when you skip that,

729
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: you just make life harder for you. If I'm Lebron

730
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: James and I'm just running a dribble handoff with de

731
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: Jontay Murray out of the left corner in a set

732
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: ded defense situation, it is very unlikely to end in

733
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 2: something successful. But if I run that dribble handoff as

734
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: it flows out of a three man action on the

735
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: top of the key, it's much more likely that there'll

736
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: be They'll just be more disheveled on that side of

737
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: the floor, which will create opportunities to extend the advantage there.

738
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: And then you just keep running it until you get

739
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: a close out, and from there you play drive and kick.

740
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 2: It's just it's to me, it's really this symbol. It's

741
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 2: about being resilient to defensive adjustments. If you run brute force,

742
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: slow down, spread, spread, pick and roll, spread, post up,

743
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: whatever it is you're gonna do. If you run that stuff,

744
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 2: a specific matchup like a defender who's good at guarding

745
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: your star could cause problems an adjustment like switching matchups

746
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 2: like okay, we're gonna have a forward guard your center.

747
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: That can screw things up. But as soon as you

748
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: turn your offense into a blender with lots of ball

749
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 2: and player movement, it just makes you more resilient to

750
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: those defense of adjustments. And so one of the biggest

751
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 2: lessons that I've learned this year, and it's been a

752
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: lesson that I've been slowly learning over the last few years,

753
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 2: is like, it doesn't matter how good your star is,

754
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: you need to run complicated, organized offense to try to

755
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: make these defenses work harder. NBA defenses have I know,

756
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: it's hard to imagine, just with the way scoring has

757
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: gone over the last few years, but most of that

758
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: has to do with three point shooting. NBA defenses are

759
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: profoundly sophisticated. They're profoundly sophisticated, and they're profoundly athletic. Everyone's

760
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: so fast, everyone can cover so much ground in rotation.

761
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: The game plans are getting more and more complex in

762
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: a good way, like they're figuring out how to slow

763
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 2: down these modern offenses. You have to be one step

764
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: ahead of them, and the only way you're going to

765
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: be one step ahead of them is if you mess

766
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: up their execution. It's one thing to have a game

767
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: plan in place, it's another thing to actually do it.

768
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 2: And it's easier to defend a two man action than

769
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 2: a three man action. It's easy to defend a two

770
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: man action against a set defense than a two man

771
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: action when the defense is disheveled, and so everything is

772
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: about making those diligent steps early in possessions to break

773
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: down the defense and make things easier for you. Lastly,

774
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: number five defensive versatility. It doesn't matter if you have

775
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: a good base scheme if you can't handle a team

776
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: that takes you out of your base scheme. So Dallas,

777
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 2: they were a load up the strong side like pack

778
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: the paint type of defense didn't matter against Boston when

779
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: they could spread them out. Right. Minnesota was a drop

780
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: coverage team with Rudy Gobert Right with excellent perimeter defenders,

781
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: they wanted to stay home off the ball. That didn't

782
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: work because of specific personnel issue is that they had

783
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 2: involving Luka Doncic right, just being too big for them.

784
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: Their Their defense didn't just fail against Dallas, it failed miserably, right,

785
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 2: something silly like Miles Turner hitting pick and pop threes

786
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: and the issues that presented for Milwaukee and for New

787
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: York and even for Boston early in the series. Right,

788
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 2: they ended up having to put Jason Tatum on him

789
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: and and have Pascal Siakam be guarded by Al Horford. Right.

790
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: So like, it's one thing for your defense to succeed

791
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 2: against against a specific type of matchup or in your

792
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 2: base scheme, but you need to be able to guard

793
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: in different ways. What do you need to be able

794
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: to guard in different ways? You need you need to

795
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 2: have all five players on the floor be at least

796
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: decent at guarding in space. This is where they're I

797
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 2: want to draw attention to the difference between Luka Doncicic

798
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 2: and Steph Curry. Steph Curry is a weaker defender, right.

799
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: He is just a little bit small, right, and he's

800
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: he's bigger than people think, but he's he's a little

801
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 2: bit small, right, and teams are gonna target them. That's

802
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: just smart. Often going after Luca is in a sign

803
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: of disrespect. It's just being smart. If you're not, if

804
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: you don't get extra points for attacking the other team's

805
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: best defender, you need to find the weak link and

806
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: attack it for the sake of your offense. Right. But

807
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 2: from there, there's a baseline level of competence you need

808
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: in order for the team to still function defensively around you.

809
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: Steph Curry understood. If I do my job, if I

810
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: hedge and recover, I can protect myself from switches when

811
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: I get in switches. If I just slide my feet

812
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 2: and contain and force into tough contested jump shots, maybe

813
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 2: they go in, but at least it's lower percentage. Right, Like,

814
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: Steph has lost some of those battles. Lonnie Walker hitting

815
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 2: jumpers in his face in the twenty twenty three season, right,

816
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: that was a big swing factor in Game four, Kyrie

817
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: Irving hitting the step back jumper over Steph in the

818
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen finals. He's lost some of those battles, but

819
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: statistically speaking, if Steph can at least force them into

820
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: a tough pull up jump shot. He's done his job.

821
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 2: Where Luca became a problem was he was straight up

822
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 2: completely incapable of doing anything against Boston spread out defense.

823
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: He's getting toasted off the dribble like literally no resistance,

824
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 2: just getting beat in rotation, was constantly lost in getting

825
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: caught in no man's land where he's not contesting shots

826
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: or running to the next guy on the defensive glass.

827
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 2: Part of this was fatigue, but he kept getting beat

828
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 2: to loose balls like he was so bad on defense

829
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 2: that it became the way that Boston blew the series open.

830
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: Those runs, those big defensive runs that I talked about,

831
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: many of them involved Luka Doncic. There were two runs

832
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: that I specifically mentioned. I think it was Game five

833
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 2: in Game two where they were runs that spanned the

834
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: half where Boston was straight up attacking Luca every single

835
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: possession down the floor. And so again, it's not about

836
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: having five excellent perimeter defenders. You have to have it

837
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: five that are at least decent at guarding in space

838
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 2: so that you can construct a team defense around them.

839
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: That is what I'm hoping for from Luca next year,

840
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: just another level of competency when it comes to guarding

841
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 2: in space. I know he can be a weak side defender.

842
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 2: I know that he can make plays when they've loaded

843
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: up kind of off the ball, when he's focusing more

844
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: on defensive playmaking. But that's not what it's going to

845
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 2: be like when you have to win four rounds. When

846
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 2: you have to win four rounds, you're going to face

847
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 2: at least one, if not multiple teams that can truly

848
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 2: space you out and force you to guard in open ground.

849
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 2: And it's just harder that way. Right, ground coverage in rotation.

850
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 2: This was a big piece that Sam Bessini was talking

851
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: about when we did the pod during the finals and

852
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: we talked about the different things that we have learned

853
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: from this postseason run, and this is something I think

854
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 2: he's right on about. When you get in rotation, your

855
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 2: ability to make those shots tougher matters. That's where your

856
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: overall foot speed in length matters. This is something where

857
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 2: Boston was great. I'll give you guys an example. Do

858
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 2: you remember in the Pacers series, I did a film

859
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: session where I showed up play where Jalen Brown was

860
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 2: guarding Aaron Nesmith on the right wing and he dug

861
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: way down into the lane down almost to the nail

862
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: and help. And when he was down there, the Pacers

863
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: threw a swing pass to aaron Ne Smith on the

864
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: right wing where Jalen Brown was like on the ball,

865
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: and he recovered out and blocked aaron NEI Smith and

866
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 2: then saved the ball off of aaron Ei Smith's slag

867
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 2: out of bounds. That's ground coverage. That's being two places

868
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: at once, having a low man that can contest pick

869
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: and roll at the rim while also contesting the weak

870
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: side corner on the skip pass. That's what Giannis used

871
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: to do for the Milwaukee Bucks defense when they were

872
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: at their best a couple years ago. These are all

873
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 2: elements of ground coverage. The overall foot speed and length

874
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: of your team will give you more defensive resilience when

875
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: you end up in trouble. It also helps you with

876
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: defensive rebounding, which is a vital part of defense. Four.

877
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 2: The big, strong, athletic forward continues to be the most

878
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: valuable defense archetype. This was Jason Tatum this year for

879
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 2: the Boston Celtics. This was Aaron Gordon last year for

880
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: the This is Aaron Gordon last year for the Denver Nuggets.

881
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: I even think Andrew Wiggins kind of fell into this

882
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 2: role a little bit with the Warriors, although with them

883
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: they've just Draymond Green does a lot of this as well,

884
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: and we saw dre On Green switch out and guard

885
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 2: Jaylen Brown for parts of the early portion of the

886
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 2: NBA Finals, right, But having that big, strong, athletic forward

887
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 2: is just a must. And I'm not talking about the

888
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 2: perimeter three. I'm not talking about like the Jada McDaniel's archetype.

889
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the big forard. This is Lebron James,

890
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: This is Ruya Chamura, this is Aaron Gordon, this is

891
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum. These are guys like six ' nine or taller,

892
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: and like with real bulk to them, those are very

893
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: extremely valuable. One, they can guard centers, allowing for your

894
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: rim protector to then focus on a poor shooting wing.

895
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 2: This was something we saw in the Boston series that

896
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: I think we're going to see a ton of over

897
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 2: the course of the next few years in the NBA.

898
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: You're going to see teams put their big forward on

899
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 2: limited off defensive centers that are rim runners, and then

900
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: rim protectors will be put on guys that struggle to

901
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: shoot above the break. Threes because from there they can

902
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: row them off and present all sorts of issues locking

903
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: down the paint. Right. That's a specific matchup strategy that

904
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: you can only employ if you have a forward who's

905
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 2: big enough to guard a center. They're vitally important on

906
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 2: the defensive glass. These are the guys when the big

907
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: guy is to be pulled out to the level of

908
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: the screen and there's a pull up jump shot. He's

909
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 2: the one big body on the back line who can

910
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: high point the basketball. So they're vitally important there, and

911
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 2: they are most well equipped to guard the best players

912
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: in the league. If I was listing the best players

913
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: in the league after Jokic, it's a bunch of big forwards.

914
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: It's Luca, it's Giannis, it's Tatum, it's Anthony Davis, it's

915
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 2: Lebron James, it's Kawhi Leonard. It's gonna be Palo Bancaro

916
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: here in a couple of years. Like the best players

917
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: are big forwards, and so you need a big forward

918
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 2: that can guard the other team's big forward, otherwise they're

919
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: going to bully you. This is a position because Karl

920
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 2: Anthony Towns is basically a center. This is the position

921
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 2: where Minnesota struggled. They did not have a big forward

922
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 2: that was good enough offensively. Kyle Anderson did a decent job,

923
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 2: but he has his offensive issues. They didn't have a

924
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: forward it was big enough to guard Luca but also

925
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 2: be a plus offensive player. It's a personnel weakness for them.

926
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 2: But again, that specific archetype is vitally important. So all

927
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: of this amounts to one thing. You need to have

928
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 2: multiple effective half court defensive looks. You need a quality

929
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 2: drop coverage look, preferably with a big forward that can

930
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 2: guard on the perimeter and a rim protector so that

931
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 2: you can tinker with matchups like we just talked about,

932
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: like Boston did to Dallas. It allows you to deal

933
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: with pick and roll without getting into rotation. So this

934
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: is your defending ball screens two on two look. You

935
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 2: have to have this look, just a basic drop coverage look.

936
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 2: Imagine what Minnesota does a lot with Rudy Gobert, or

937
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: they try to stay home off the ball defend the

938
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 2: action two on two. You need an aggressive look look.

939
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 2: This is like a high drop or a blitz something

940
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 2: where you bring your rim protector out to the ball

941
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 2: screen and you have to tag on the weak side

942
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 2: This is defending ball screens three on two, you have

943
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: to have this look. This requires rotation. This means as

944
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: you're aggressive on the ball to get the ball out

945
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 2: of Luca's hands or whoever the primary ball handler is.

946
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 2: When the ball does get moved, you have to be

947
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 2: able to quickly spread out and react in rotation. So

948
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: you need a deep drop. You need an aggressive look.

949
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 2: You need a switching look. Switching is what allows you

950
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: to shut off pick and roll and to stagnate the component. Right.

951
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: Some teams will look to matchup hunt in those situations.

952
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 2: That's where you need the five guys on the perimeter

953
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: that can at least do a competent job guarding in space. Right.

954
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 2: So in order to have a switching look, you need

955
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: to have those that like kind of aggregate perimeter defense

956
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 2: right to go through them all. To have a drop

957
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,439
Speaker 2: coverage look, you need a rim protector that can really

958
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: protect the rim.

959
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: Right.

960
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 2: To have an aggressive look, you need a big four

961
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: that can help on the backside as your rim protector's

962
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 2: pulled out to the perimeter. In order to have a

963
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 2: switching look, you can't have weak links on the defensive

964
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: end of the floor. Right. So like those looks all

965
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 2: require certain types of personnel. I think you need a

966
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 2: zone look. This is a rhythm disruptor. It's something that

967
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: you just throw into the game to just kind of

968
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 2: jank things up when you need to change the speed

969
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: teams on a run, they're on a twelve zero run.

970
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 2: You throw a zone look. It might get a by

971
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: you two or three possessions before they figure it out,

972
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: where you get some quality defensive stops and you can

973
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: run out the other way. And again, if you understand

974
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: that you need to be four quality opponents in increasing

975
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: levels of difficulty, you're gonna need these types of looks. Right, So,

976
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 2: insummation before we get out of here for the day,

977
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: what will next year's champion look like? From what we learned,

978
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 2: they'll most likely be in the top four of the standings.

979
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 2: They'll most likely be led by a bona fide top

980
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 2: tier superstar. Again, Boston was the exception, and I continue

981
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: that exception in the next pending personnel moves. We don't

982
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 2: know what's gonna happen over the next couple of weeks,

983
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: but Boston as of right now is my favorite to

984
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 2: win next year. As for my optimism surrounding Denver, It

985
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with oh, Boston won the trophy

986
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 2: this year. It's a basketball thing for me watching Boston

987
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 2: pick Dallas apart in space. I know Denver won the

988
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: two regular season matchups, but they were close. I worry

989
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 2: about Denver's ability to guard in space as well. I

990
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 2: lean slightly towards Boston now in that matchup, in a

991
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: way where I lean slightly towards Denver before watching this

992
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 2: playoff run. So again, I'm not just trying to default

993
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: to the champion. It's a basketball thing. Boston showed me

994
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 2: something with the way that they punished Dallas, and I

995
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 2: think that they would cause similar problems for Denver in

996
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 2: a series. It'd be much closer. I think that'd be

997
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: a six or seven game series, and I would not

998
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: be surprised if Denver won. But like Boston is my

999
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 2: favorite for next year as of right now. Pending personnel

1000
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: moves right and we haven't even talked about Cruso yet.

1001
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: We'll hit that at a later date. But NBA history

1002
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 2: tells us Yo Kitchen twenty twenty three, Steph in twenty

1003
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 2: twenty two, Johannis in twenty twenty one, Lebron in twenty

1004
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 2: twenty Kawhi and twenty nineteen, Katie and Steph twenty eighteen,

1005
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 2: KT and Steph twenty seventeen. You have Lebron in twenty sixteen,

1006
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: you have Steph in twenty fifteen. Like, generally speaking, you

1007
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 2: need a top tier star to win the title. Boston

1008
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 2: is the one exception because they have five thirty million

1009
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 2: dollar players. That's the one thing that makes them different

1010
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 2: in this regard. But NBA history, what we've learned tells

1011
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 2: us top four in the standings most likely led by

1012
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 2: a bona fide top tier superstar. Excellent spacing by virtue

1013
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 2: of shooting and ball and player movement. The last three champs, Boston, Denver,

1014
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: and Golden State were all great spacing teams by virtue

1015
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 2: of shooting and ball and player movement. You need to

1016
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: have multiple elite defensive looks, and you need to have

1017
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 2: matchup versatility, which to me means fewer weaknesses. The more

1018
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: weaknesses you have, the more likely you are to run

1019
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: into a team that can exploit those weaknesses and beat you.

1020
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: So that's again we've gone for fifty three minutes at

1021
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: this point. That to me is just like a really

1022
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: like I know, that was kind of like an overwhelming

1023
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 2: amount of information. But that to me was like kind

1024
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 2: of my synopsis of this postseason run in what I've learned,

1025
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 2: Like that, those are the kinds of things that I'm

1026
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: going to try to refer back to as we're looking

1027
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: through a team's next season. If I see a team

1028
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 2: that is intriguing, but they can't win enough games in

1029
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 2: the regular season to be in the top four, chances

1030
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: are they're not winning the title. Right. If we see

1031
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 2: a team that looks really good in their base scheme,

1032
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: but when they get teams that take them out of

1033
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 2: their base scheme, they struggle, that's something that probably will

1034
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 2: get them beat when they get to the postseason. Huge weaknesses,

1035
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 2: that's probably a thing that will get you beat when

1036
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 2: you get into the postseason, right, So like, let's just

1037
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 2: try to kind of keep these things in mind as

1038
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 2: we get into next season. All right, guys, That is

1039
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: all I have for today is always as sincerely appreciate

1040
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 2: you guys for supporting the show. We are going to

1041
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,439
Speaker 2: be back on Thursday mornings break down the rest rounded

1042
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 2: the NBA Draft and any trades that took place. I'll

1043
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 2: see you guys then the volume

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