1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: And now your mate event. 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: Introducing the hosts, I'm Wrestling with Freddy Chef d Han 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: of Fredys Junior. Welcome to a brand new episode of 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: Wrestling with Freddy Wrestling with Friends. We're not gonna do 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 2: any goofy news intros because we have a guest that 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: I've been wanting to speak to for a very long time. 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: Our producer reached out, got this done, and then our 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: producer wrote this intro for the man, and it deserves 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: like a better voice than mine. So I'm going to 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: do the documentary guy voice, and I hope our guest 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: likes it, and if not, I didn't write it, but 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: I think it's awesome. Here we go, emerging from the shadows, 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: his eyes burning with an unwavering intensity, Swerve Strickland is 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: a force to be reckoned with in the squared circle. 15 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: This electrifying athlete is more than just a wrestler. He's 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: an artist, a storyteller, and a captivating presence that leaves 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 2: fans breathless. With a background steeped in the independence, could 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: Strickland honed his craft and promotions like CZW and Evolve, 19 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: capturing titles and leaving a trail of awe inspiring performances 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: in his wake. He burst onto the national scene in 21 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, joining the ranks of WWE's NXT brand, but 22 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: Swerve's hunger for a larger canvas led him to All 23 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: Elite Wrestling, and here he has truly unleashed his potential. 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: He joined forces with the powerful Keith Lee Is swerving 25 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: our glory, dominated the tag team division, captured the coveted 26 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: AW World Tag Team Championship. But Swerve is not one 27 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: to rest on his laurels. He's hungry for individual glory, 28 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 2: and his sites are firmly set on the top prize 29 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: in ae W Man, A lot of that shit was true. 30 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: Facts, I would know all of it is. 31 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: Welcome to the show Man. It's a pleasure to have you. 32 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: Thanks for being our guest. We appreciate you. 33 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: No man, thank you for having me. Man seriously, like 34 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: appreciate all that. Like it's really cool to hear it, 35 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: like in a interesting way like that, like you know 36 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: what this sounded, even if it's bullshit, like that sounds. 37 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: Pretty that was real. That's how we feel. 38 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 4: Also, sure if you should know that I'm on this 39 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 4: podcast every week and they just go and with me. 40 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: Is Jeff. 41 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: That's a way better intro you got. 42 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll write something for Jeff. 43 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 44 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: I like that. He deserves it. 45 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: He first things first, And this is going to be 46 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: a random question, but I heard we have something in 47 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: common besides wrestling. You're a horror fan. I'm a horror fan. 48 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: I have a podcast about horror movies. I nerd out 49 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: on it so much. 50 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: What's it. 51 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: I'm sure you don't have one favorite. You probably have 52 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: ten favorites. But what's one horror movie that everybody needs 53 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: to see? 54 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: Man? I'll start with like the most recent one that 55 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: I think, like it's pretty well known right now. But 56 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: actually the first one I'll talk about is Night of 57 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: the Missing. I just I had a part in that one. 58 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: It just came out on Amazon, is number one on 59 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: screen Box TV, actually on the screen Box app if 60 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: you're a big horror fan. So check that out. And 61 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: Out of the Missing worked with Matthew Hirsch and Samuel 62 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: Gonzalez Junior on that. Very cool, very cool. Yeah, So 63 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: that just came out. We spilled that a year ago 64 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: and it just came out in November, end of November, 65 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: So go check that out for one, you know, so 66 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: may burst on the scene with my acting chops. And 67 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: then I will say, like, as the most recent film 68 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: I watched, I think like everybody should be checking out 69 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: is talk to Me. Talk Yes. Very innovative stuff, very 70 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: innovative stuff, and very original. 71 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: What they did with that hand and basically turning that 72 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: hand into a party drug that everybody can partake in 73 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: was so slick and so smart. And I'm forty seven 74 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: years old. I was not the demographic for this movie. 75 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: Like in the beginning, I'm like, oh, that music's so loud, 76 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: But as soon as the acting started and the story started, 77 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: I was just like, Yo, this is good. Like teen 78 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: Hordes a sick horror movie. 79 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, talk to me, Ray. 80 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: Alt media is now mainstream. It's a good time to 81 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: be into any of those things. And if you're justin 82 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: long in a horror movie, bad things are going to 83 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: happen to you. Talk to me about this journey that 84 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: you've on at aew where it started bringing people in 85 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: working with other people, and now all of a sudden, 86 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: you're the focus of this story that was reminiscent of 87 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: the Attitude era back in the day with Adam Hangman 88 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,119 Speaker 2: Page and then you do this match and I'm telling 89 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: you right now, I'm soft. 90 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: Okay. 91 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: As soon as I had kids, I never wanted to 92 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: skydive again. And bloody matches made me cringe because I 93 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: hate seeing people that sometimes I worked with and like 94 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: wrote for, I hate to see them bleed, right, I 95 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: just don't. I don't want to see that. You had 96 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: a match that I couldn't take my eyes off of. 97 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 2: And I've described wrestling a lot as the literal blood, sweat, 98 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 2: and tears on an actual canvas, right, and this was 99 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: everything that I love about wrestling in a match that 100 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: I normally would cringe and look away from in terror 101 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: because it's real blood, And instead I could not take 102 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 2: my eyes off this match. How the hell did you 103 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: to pull this story and this climax off? Man? 104 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: We started off, like I'm pretty sure like you've gone 105 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: through writing the same way you start off with motive. 106 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: Why do I want to take it to this level? 107 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: Why do we want to need to elevate It's almost 108 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: like an elevated horror sense of just painting the broad 109 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: canvas of it. You know, you have your high points 110 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: and you have your points where you're like, we kind 111 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: of had to erase a lot of wrestling tropes in 112 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: a sense, it's now like, oh, he's the good guy, 113 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: but he's doing that, he's the bad guy. He's doing that. 114 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: It's like, no, this is a man needing to get 115 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: revenge on another man who did a bad thing. So 116 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: it's like we kind of start off with just like boom, 117 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: just that. Now, what are the things that make that 118 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: person tick? What makes that person like, what drives the 119 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: anger out of someone who is on the defensive, what 120 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: drives the anger out to someone who's on the offensive. 121 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: What is the switches that turn things around? That was 122 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: the beauty of like starting this whole thing off with 123 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: the promos between me and hey man Page. I dressed 124 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: him down and showcased all his weaknesses. I put it 125 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: all out there on display. And now people like people 126 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: have seen him already for like four years in aw 127 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: but now as people are like, wow, I feel like 128 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: I know him now. I addressed the person you know, 129 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: and I then I kind of like went through like 130 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: you know what, I see all this everybody's nobody's saying it. 131 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to say it to you to your face. 132 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it from the stage to 133 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: you in the ring. I'm not going to do it 134 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: over the promo that's up here and then you're down here. No, 135 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to address you to your face because Swerve 136 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: isn't in a coward. Swerve is going to come to 137 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: you and say it. That's what kind of makes me 138 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: a dangerous threat. I'm not going to hide. I'm going 139 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: to say it to your face. And that's the thing 140 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: about like a lot of tropes in wrestling. And he's like, 141 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: oh man, you said it to his face, and he 142 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: kind of that promo ends and they just walk away. 143 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, why would you walk away from someone? Like? No, 144 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: Like you're saying all these things, you know what I mean, 145 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: it's like those things. So it's like, as a human being, 146 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: you kind of feel a lot of the things, and 147 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: so therefore, when the violence started occurring, you felt for 148 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: the person taking the violence and the person inflicting it. Therefore, 149 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: you instead of just seeing two wrestlers bludgeoning each other, 150 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: it didn't feel like a match anymore. It felt like 151 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: somebody has to try to survive this, so how does 152 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: he get away from this? And it kind of I 153 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: kind of took a lot of things from like hostile 154 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: I took some things from like even like a Halloween 155 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: of like walking through pain because you're just so enraged 156 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. There was a lot of things 157 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: that just like I would say, with Hangman, it was 158 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: like this is this is like our ghost Rider. Now 159 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: he's like if you notice, like he kind of went 160 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: from like the cowboy wearing the nice stars and the 161 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: dazzle jeans. Now he's like but from like we were 162 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: so polar opposite from the first promo we did, like 163 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: he's wearing like a blue cowboy shirt with like stars, 164 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: and he's had his hair hair and a ponytail man 165 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: bun and stuff like that. By the time we got 166 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: to the second promo where he dresses me down, he 167 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: looks like me now, wearing like more similar than ever. 168 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: Like I'm wearing black leather and black pants. He's wearing 169 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: black leather and black pants, hairs out. I was like, 170 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: I pulled that out of you. So I won as 171 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: the bad person anyway, whether I win or lose, I 172 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: got the Hangman that I was asking for. I got 173 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: cowboys shit back, and now the fans are filling out 174 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: like the fan base was supposed to feel for Swerve. 175 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: It's like oh man, this guy's cool. He's dressing like, yeah, 176 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: you're supposed to feel for me. But Hayman has to 177 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: win the fans back. That was the entire plot of 178 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: this whole thing, and by the time we did that 179 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: promo right before going into the Texas Deathmatch, he won 180 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: the fans back. 181 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 2: I haven't heard anyone break down and describe the build 182 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: up the way you have, except when I worked at 183 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: WW years ago and I got to work with Edge, 184 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 2: and that's how he talks about matches is intent and motive, 185 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: And motive was the first thing you said. Intent was 186 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: the damn second thing you said. And he talked about 187 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,119 Speaker 2: having a motive, you know, in everything, not just the promos, 188 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: but in every move that you do in there outside 189 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: of the you know, the stuff that you of course 190 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: you got you gotta get there, but even that. He 191 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 2: wants to tell a story with and you break things 192 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: down in a really really similar way. You guys know 193 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: each other. 194 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Well he's been my mentor, i'd say for 195 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: the last two to three years ever since I met 196 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: him in NXC. 197 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 3: Oh well, well that makes a lot of sense. 198 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: He was like, he's very generous with his information and 199 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: he was the first one to really like break down 200 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: the fall to be wrestling, because when I got there, 201 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: I just knew how to write a monologue of promore. 202 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: I could I could tell I could write something that 203 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: would make people get hyped, but that was it. I 204 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: didn't know how to build a match. And he really 205 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 2: broke that shit down almost the exact way that you 206 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: just broke broke down you and hangman Page, I had 207 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: goosebumps like twice when you were telling that, man, it 208 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 2: was crazy. It was like looking at it, thank you 209 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: a second, No, that's wild. You really broke it down perfectly. 210 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: Another guy that really like brought that same type of 211 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: mentality to me, but put it in the inn rings 212 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: sense I was. I was credit to people for this, 213 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: like definitely Cope Adam Copeland for like as far as 214 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: like promoing and characters and stuff like that, because we 215 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: share like content with like sending each other YouTube videos 216 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: and breakdowns of characters and what this color means of 217 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: this suit, why he wore it this way, what this 218 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: means the like the polarities of certain characters and all 219 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: those things. So we share content but like with that 220 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: all the time. But then it was Terry Taylor, who 221 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: really taught me how to be in the ring, how 222 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: to bring that in the ring and showcase the person, 223 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: Like you have to showcase that you're a person and 224 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: the feel of it before it gets to just action 225 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: and fighting and moves and spots and running jumping and 226 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: diving and stuff. It's like like, Okay, cool, but you 227 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: did that. Now show me why you how your character 228 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: feels about what you just did. Now show the camera 229 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: how you feel about what you just accomplished. I see 230 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: you do that. 231 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: I see you do that when you point it guys 232 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: and let them know, Yo, I just got that. 233 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: Off on your Yeah. I love that. That's the next level, right, 234 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: And that's like those It's like it's kind of like 235 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: small little tidbits, but after a while it adds up, 236 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: and then you do it again the next week, and 237 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: then you do it again the next week, and then 238 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: you do it again the next week. Then you do 239 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: it again next week. Now the fan base is connected 240 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: to you because they see all the like I feel 241 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: like I feel like that too. Oh man, I've had 242 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: a feeling like that too, or like even like compared 243 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: to an one basketball, when you shake someone, you got 244 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: them laying on the ground, you'd like, ah, you like win. 245 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: I've been in that position. I've fallen on the floor. 246 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: So now they can kind of the fans and whoever's 247 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: watching at home can kind of relate to, like, I've 248 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: been in that situation before, So now I'm connected to 249 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: that ceiling rather than a fan to seeing like a 250 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: crazy acrobatic move. They don't connect to that because they've 251 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: never had that done to them. I don't know what, like, 252 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: the common person watching at home does not know what 253 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: it feels like to take a big flipping power bomb 254 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: boom because they never had that before. But they know 255 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,599 Speaker 1: how it feels to get punched in the face and 256 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: laughed at because it's happened to somebody, either them or 257 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: they watched it on World Star or they had they've 258 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: been to a barbecue of party or a fight, and 259 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: they've watched somebody that happened to somebody. So now it's 260 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: related to them a little more because it's a little 261 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: bit more real. 262 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: Jeff, I've hogged all the time, super sorry, but but 263 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: please jump in. 264 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 4: But I do want him to know and I want 265 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 4: the viewers will vouch for this that we're not being 266 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 4: cute boys, just because you're on, just because you're with us, 267 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 4: we are huge fans. I've been a big ass Mark 268 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 4: the whole season just talking about you. 269 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: I think you're a huge star. 270 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 4: You're gonna be one of the biggest wrestlers ever, and 271 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 4: I'm glad that people are starting to notice it. 272 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 3: The point that you guys are just referencing. 273 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it's any Quinns. 274 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 4: The coincidence that the point reminds me of Sean camp 275 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: Duncan on Alton Lister back in the day when he 276 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 4: give them the big the Duncan and the point. You 277 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 4: are from Tacoma, Washington. I am from Kent, Washington. We 278 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 4: are two five to three boys. Are you a big 279 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 4: are a big Seattle sports guys? 280 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: I am actually a La Rams fan the slash Jaguars, So. 281 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 2: My son will have another reason to love you. Yeah, said, 282 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: I'm a Raiders fan. My son like Raiders, oh Man 283 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: slash Jaguars. 284 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 3: You're all over the map. We have sports teams where 285 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 3: we're from. 286 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, don't take any lip off, Jeff. I've 287 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: seen this guy wear twenty seven different baseball hats from 288 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: twenty seven different teams'. 289 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 4: That is to thirty different. Yeah, I'm a big Mariners fan, 290 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 4: but I do wear all the hats, all right. That 291 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 4: wasn't the question I wanted to ask. What I did 292 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 4: want to ask is because I imagine you've loved wrestling your 293 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 4: entire life the way we have. Most of the wrestlers 294 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 4: your age and our age are they grew up watching it? 295 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 4: What does it feel like Explain it to maybe a 296 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 4: guy like me when you get your first Action figure, 297 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 4: or when you get when you see yourself on the 298 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 4: video game, or when you see it's. 299 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 3: Like I can put myself in a match on PlayStation, 300 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 3: Like it's so cool, Like what is that? 301 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: Like? What was it like? The first man, I'll never 302 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: get just stepping into the booths for the two K 303 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: scan and like getting all those pictures. I'll never forget 304 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: that day. That was That was awesome. It was like 305 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: at the time, it was like me carrying across at Scarlett. 306 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: We're the ones stepping in to get our scans, and 307 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: we were like, oh, this is it. This is it 308 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: was you step in here, We're more in line forever. 309 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: So it was really cool. I didn't even think I 310 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: was going to make the cut on the game, because 311 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: I think it was like the ninety day I got released, 312 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: and then I was on the ninety days and I 313 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: was like, I'm probably not gonna be like wiped out 314 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: of the game, but They're like, no, they kept it, 315 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: and they kept me as North American Champion going into 316 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: the game starting the game off on top of that, 317 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: so I was like, oh, I guess somebody still likes me. 318 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: I didn't piss anybody else. 319 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, the developers knew you were a star, but. 320 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: It was it was really cool experiences. The craziest thing 321 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: about the game, Like I saved it on my IG 322 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: so as like one of those story things, so I 323 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: always go back to show that to somebody. It's really cool. 324 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: Like walking the entrance, the commentary is talking about the 325 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: Sore City podcast actually on the way to the ring 326 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: in the game, so I was like, that's cool. So 327 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: I got like kind of like a thread of different 328 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: my media is in there at the same time. So 329 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: it was really it was really interesting stuff. I was. 330 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: I was blown away. 331 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 4: Of course, if I had an action figure out every target, 332 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be able to not go in there and 333 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 4: buy it every single time, just to to the people 334 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 4: that worked there, like I've got an action figure, like 335 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 4: I can't it's such a cool thing. 336 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: I just put it through this through the scanner and 337 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: they were like scanning, like wait a minute, Like yeah, 338 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: that's me, that's right. Yeah. 339 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 2: Tell me about the swerft City podcast. 340 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: Speres City podcast is something that we came with. Me 341 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: and my co host Montez, came up with like twenty seventeen. 342 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: I moved down to Florida at the time, and Montez 343 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: was he was doing entrance music themes for the wrestlers 344 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: and we met like maybe a two years prior at 345 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: a mcw and independence show and he was always a 346 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: fan of my work and I've seen his work final 347 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, that's dope. So I moved 348 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: down to Florida. He asked to be to interview me, 349 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: so I was like, okay, cool, So I came down. 350 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: I loved his interview style. It's very personable. He had 351 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: like notes and stuff and he's like, no what, I'm 352 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: just gonna go on the fly. He just crumbled it up, 353 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: through it out though, through it out of the screen. 354 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: It's like, let's just vie man. And we just talked 355 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: like for an hour on Thos on his interview and 356 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, maybe we could do 357 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: like uh, I like the way you do this, want 358 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: to do something together. You're like, oh sure. So we 359 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: came up with we went to High Spots. We got 360 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: a couple of episodes on the High Spots DVD filmed 361 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: by Sammy Callahan. Those were up they're still up there 362 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: on for sale. Then we're like, let's do I want 363 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: to do more. Let's let's see what it was who 364 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: can do? So we like kind of do it with 365 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: like ig Live, just like yeah, yeah, messing around with stuff, 366 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: just feeling it out on two bean bags. No wall, 367 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: nothing here, just bean bags. Then they went to bring 368 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: his friend in who can actually actually had a camera 369 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: and could edit. Then we started getting some of my 370 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: friends on. Then I got signed to NXT and stuff 371 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: like that. Then it got Then COVID happened, and that's 372 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: I think COVID. We benefited from that mostly because everybody's 373 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: coming down to Florida to just sit in hotels or 374 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: go to do the SmackDown wrong and whatever in the 375 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: same place. So I was like, hey, kofy want to 376 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: come to our podcast. It's like sure, I'm not doing nothing. 377 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: So Kofe would come do the podcast. Hey Bailey, want 378 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: to come to our podcast? Sure, yeah, absolutely. Then like 379 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: Drew mcintarre won the Rumble then went on to win 380 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: the world title at WrestleMania, So I was like, hey, Drew, 381 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: he was like sure, no problem, and that would end 382 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: up being the first episode of The swartsa podcast on 383 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: the ww network. So we got leveled up every time 384 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: just because we me and me and my teez. He's 385 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: like the artist, I'm the wrestler, but then he turned 386 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: me to the artist at the same time. So we 387 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: kind of like had like a lot of polar similarities 388 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: to media, music, and wrestling, and we find ways to 389 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: like bring it all together while discussing certain things and 390 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: topics and like what's going on in the world and 391 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: media and Hollywood and music and stuff, and bring out 392 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: a little bit more personality out of the wrestlers and 393 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: performers and stuff. So it grew to some to the 394 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: fact that we're just bring in like Pat McAfee and yeah, 395 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: coming up, Yeah, coming up. We got Dominic Wilkins. That's great. 396 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: So so and then we started traveling, getting on the road. 397 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: It was like, Hey, we're gonna go up to Atlanta, 398 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: and interview music Soul Child in the studio. I'm like, yes, okay, cool. 399 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: So it was always about competition with me and Tez 400 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: was like, well I got so and So. Well, yeah, 401 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: I just got an email from so and so we 402 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: got him. Okay, that's a dope, guess I don't know 403 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: how you did that, but I'm gonna talk that. I'm 404 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: gonna get Tony Kahan. Oh snap, that's a good one. 405 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna get so and so so if they 406 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: It came like a little friendly battle between who can 407 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: get the most guests play guess what we both grow 408 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: from whoever wins. No, there's no losers in it, and 409 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: that's kind of how the Sourcy Podcast kind of grew. 410 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: Well, if you ever need a guest, man, I'm happy 411 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: to jump in there for you, dude. 412 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: Without a doubt, Please come through. Man. No, you you 413 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: helped us out. 414 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 3: I'm happy to return the favor. 415 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: Man. 416 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 4: Go ahead, Jeff, where would you put Swerve City if 417 00:19:58,680 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 4: there ever became one? 418 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: And that the goal? 419 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 3: Is there going to be a Swerve city? 420 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 1: Is that? 421 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: Is that your future plans? 422 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: So if you look at the logo, there's actually buildings 423 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: and landmarks from Seattle. 424 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 4: Actually you're trying to turn what is already known as 425 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 4: Seattle into swerve City. 426 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm trying to still stay dedicated, you know. 427 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: I like that. 428 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 3: We could use some new management in Seattle. 429 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. At this point, my theme music 430 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: is playing at the Krakend Stadium. So it's slowly but 431 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: surely like Swerve City. That's going to be the national 432 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: ahead film or something. 433 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, all right, you guys, we're gonna 434 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 2: go a little deeper into the conversation here and talk 435 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 2: about some other stuff on the unsanctioned Thursdays. We thank 436 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 2: you guys for listening, Thank you for tuning in. Come 437 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: tune in tomorrow where maybe we get a little more serious. 438 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: We'll see till then. 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