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Speaker 1: I'm Debbie Brown. And this is the Deeply Well Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Deeply Well, a soft place to land on

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Speaker 1: your journey. A podcast for those that are curious, creative,

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Speaker 1: This is where we heal, this is where we transcend.

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Speaker 1: Thank you everyone is always so much for being here.

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Speaker 1: I'm Debbie Brown. This is deeply well.

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Speaker 2: Oh Lord.

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Speaker 1: The state of the world. I'm not even trying to

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Speaker 3: is a verifiable source of information. And now and that's

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00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: exactly you had to seek it out and you know,

436
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 3: you knew you could trust it, and and now you know,

437
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 3: we're it's a blessing and a curse, I think, because

438
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: we're we have so much information at our fingertips. But

439
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 3: you know, obviously there's people that have intentions of sharing

440
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 3: things to maybe stir the pod or you know, spread

441
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 3: disinformation or spread you know, other nefarious things.

442
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, how do.

443
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: We reconcile it all? And and you know, stay connected

444
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: to ourselves to know who we are and build the

445
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 3: strong foundation within ourselves to whether all of this because

446
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 3: I think, like you said, we've periods of time I've

447
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: always had you know, unrest and turmoil, and you know,

448
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 3: obviously we're in one now. It's like, okay, how do

449
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 3: we handle it and what do we want to do

450
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: with it? And I think it requires a level of consciousness,

451
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: like you said, to be like, Okay, I'm an active

452
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: participant in this world, in this life around me and

453
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 3: my community and my family, with my friends, Like what

454
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 3: is it that I want to show up with? Or

455
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: who do I want to be in this moment in time?

456
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: And like what is what is the intention behind it?

457
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 3: Like do I do I want to be someone that's

458
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: you know, being more of the solution not the problem.

459
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: And you know what does that look like? It's like

460
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: all these conversations that I have with myself or I

461
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,239
Speaker 3: have with you know, the people in my life or

462
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 3: you know sometimes on social media too, and it's you know,

463
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: there's not obviously a right answer, but it's it's a

464
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 3: really interesting internal dialogue for sure.

465
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: Ye that Yeah, it's just it's a dialogue that is

466
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: in real time just churning, just moving, changing form in

467
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: so many ways. So tell me specifically and I'll try

468
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: to share.

469
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: Two.

470
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: I got to come to it, But what are you doing?

471
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: How are you taking care of yourself right now? Where

472
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: have you kind of landed within yourself about how you

473
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: want to approach this moment?

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Speaker 3: I love that question. So I think two things that

475
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 3: come to mind. Specifically. I did go to journalism school,

476
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: so I am like one of those people that like

477
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: loves to take an information and like find out breaking

478
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 3: news or like get to the bottom of things. So

479
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 3: that's kind of been my achilles heel during these times

480
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: because I can go down rabbit holes on the internet

481
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: and I'm just like where did I Where did I

482
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 3: just have a get in?

483
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: How did I get care?

484
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 3: So but I also find that it's taught me a lot,

485
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: and so I love to learn and read about other

486
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: people's lived experiences and see like what's truly happening for

487
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 3: other people. So having boundaries with that for sure, to

488
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: know like when I need to take a break and

489
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 3: you know, come back to my own life and live

490
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 3: in my own world is has been hugely important. But

491
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 3: I know for myself that I really, I really am

492
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: recharged when I'm by myself and have just quiet time

493
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: and can just be and like I know, you know,

494
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 3: on the internet and social media you see like bedrotting

495
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: or like just staying at home on like a Sunday

496
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 3: and just being cozy. But like I those kinds of

497
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: days are where I thrive and I find if I

498
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 3: don't have every once in a while a time where

499
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 3: I can just be lazy, you know, even though that

500
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 3: kind of makes me crazy because if you're taking care

501
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: of yourself, you're not being lazy, right, But like growing up,

502
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, you didn't leave the house today, you

503
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 3: didn't do anything productive. Yeah, oh, so it's been letting myself,

504
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 3: you know, have those days, you know where I can

505
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 3: just do what I need to do for myself, whether

506
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: if it's staying home and just being cozy at home

507
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 3: or you know, sitting on the couch with my cat,

508
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 3: like honoring that and not having judgment about what I

509
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 3: think it means from the outside in.

510
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

511
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's it's it's.

512
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 3: A constant checking in with myself of like what do

513
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: I need and what would help me in this moment?

514
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 3: And and sometimes there are little moments, you know, I

515
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 3: I like to say a lot. You know, like my mom,

516
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 3: we call her the time demon because she's like she

517
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: has so much anxiety about time. I think it's from

518
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 3: like her younger years where she was like working in

519
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 3: McDonald's and always had to be on. But every time

520
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: I go somewhere with her, it's like we have to

521
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: leave extra extra rely, so we have like a cushion

522
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: so you're not late. And so like I've taken that

523
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 3: in for her, And so I got here early coming

524
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,719
Speaker 3: to see you, because I'm like, can't be late. But

525
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 3: you know, I had some time then, No, but like

526
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 3: I had some time in my car where I could

527
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 3: just like say with myself and you know, not feel rush. Yeah,

528
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 3: I'm just like okay, I can take some deep breasts,

529
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: I can close my eyes, I can you know, listen

530
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: to music if I wanted to. And just like having

531
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 3: those small moments like before you go in and engage

532
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 3: with someone really helped me to where I'm not feeling

533
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 3: so scattered all the time.

534
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Speaker 2: You know.

535
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Speaker 1: So interesting about hearing you say that, because that is

536
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: such like honestly, that is such a like potent tool,

537
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: Like it really is, like and I am so in

538
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: alignment with that, Like I I find like I can

539
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:47,959
Speaker 1: get a half day's worth of rest in five minutes

540
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: inside if I get that space and really lean into

541
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: it and I think it, and I what tends to happen?

542
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: I think with people when you don't have practices or

543
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,959
Speaker 1: you you haven't been in a space of working with

544
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 1: your emotional regulation, you don't know how to spend your

545
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: time alone. Yes, and so even like an extra five minutes,

546
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: what am I supposed to do with this? Like the

547
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: first thing you do is get on your phone and

548
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: scroll or you know, something like that to just quote

549
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: unquote kill the time. And I think something that you

550
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: just made me realize that that's really beautiful about what

551
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: it is to be a meditator and do the work.

552
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: Is that training in meditation lets you really play with

553
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: time in such a fascinating way.

554
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 3: I love that.

555
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: Like there's sometimes where I'll literally it's like my little

556
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: kind of playfulness with God where I'm like, God, please

557
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: let this next five minutes feel like five hours. Let

558
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 1: me get what I need to get in this time,

559
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: or you know, can I stretch it? Can I or

560
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: can you make this go a little faster? But when

561
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: you're in meditation, you observe time so differently, and so

562
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: really when you sink in and I always share this

563
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: when I teach meditation, of course, it's like you're looking

564
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: to get in the gap, right, like the space in

565
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: between thoughts, which usually is a second. So even if

566
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: you meditated for twenty minutes and only forgot where you

567
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: were for a second, that's the point that one second

568
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: is actually like doing miracles in your body. It's like

569
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: ten hours. So yeah, I feel so the same in

570
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: that it's like creating those pockets when we think that

571
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: there's not much that we can do right, or we

572
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: think we don't have this space to take on one

573
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: more self care this or and it's like no, it's

574
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: really that it's like, okay, you can build in to

575
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: get somewhere a few minutes early, yeah, and do nothing

576
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: and sit and be.

577
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 3: Or even just I was thinking about, you know, when

578
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: I used to work at corporate job, I would go

579
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 3: to the bathroom, you know, take a break, and you know,

580
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: you just think you sit there and maybe you're sitting

581
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 3: there for a couple extra seconds just to have your space.

582
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 3: It's like even in those moments, you can close your

583
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: eyes and breathe, you know, just go in there and

584
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: be with yourself. And it's like there are these little

585
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 3: pockets throughout our regular day where we can just pause

586
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 3: and not rush through them, Like you said, maybe close

587
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: your eyes, take some deep breaths, and just like reconnect

588
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 3: where it doesn't have to be you know, a huge

589
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 3: chunk of your day to get the benefits, like you

590
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: can connect and recenter and recharge with with just that.

591
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 3: And I think I love that you said instead of

592
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 3: like wasting away or speeding through that time, Like how

593
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 3: can you embrace it and use it for you rather

594
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 3: than you know, I mean, of course I'm mind lessily

595
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 3: scroll too, so like I'm not saying that's something I'm

596
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 3: ever going to do, but like that and yeah, you know,

597
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 3: just being with myself or closing my eyes and it

598
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 3: is really powerful or you.

599
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: Know that, like you know, and I think this is

600
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: so relatable for so many of us. Sometimes the day

601
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: is too overwhelming and so you pull the phone out

602
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: and you just lose yourself in the scroll for an

603
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: hour and watching something for sure, And it's like if

604
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: you want to do it, do it. When you stop

605
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: doing it, then maybe take a moment to take a

606
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: deep breath and gently massage your eyelids and you know,

607
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: the bone and the foundation around your eyes, your sockets,

608
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: your temples, so that you can be in your body,

609
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: so that you can also give yourself something you can

610
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: feel and don't judge.

611
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 3: Your yeah, you know, like I hear, oh I was

612
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: my screen time was so high and I did this,

613
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 3: and then it's like, okay, yeah, maybe if you if

614
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: your screen time is something that you want to work on,

615
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: work on it. But you know, if you sometimes like

616
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 3: TikTok will just give me the funniest videos and I'm

617
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 3: just laughing, and I'm like, okay, yes, screen time, my

618
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 3: eyes are staring at the screen for hours. But also

619
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 3: I'm laughing and I really needed that laugh. So why

620
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 3: would I judge myself for doing that. I'm like, Okay,

621
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 3: that was healing and therapeutic for what I needed in

622
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 3: that moment. Like I'm not going to extend that into

623
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: judging myself later and and creating like a loop of

624
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 3: self condemnation for doing something in the moment that was

625
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 3: what I needed. And it's like, yeah, pick your you know,

626
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 3: it's like mindfully or consciously choose what you're doing like

627
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 3: and do it and then own it and then don't

628
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 3: be hard on yourself when you think you did something

629
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 3: wrong or that you wasted your time, because you chose

630
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 3: it and you can always choose differently, you know, moment

631
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 3: to moment.

632
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: And I think that piece because I would challenge everyone

633
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: to like, don't judge yourself, have that moment, have the

634
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: fullness of it, and then say like, if I do that,

635
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to give myself this too. Yeah, at some

636
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: point today, at some point this week, I will take

637
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: two minutes to take deep breaths until that clock runs out.

638
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: You know, I will take a couple moments to hold

639
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: my own heart, massage my hands, like do something for

640
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: my body and my human being too. And I think

641
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: that that's such a some of those small, simple ways.

642
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: I think we can still kind of meet some of

643
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: those needs and not have to work so hard for

644
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: it and still do something that will incrementally grow your

645
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: ability to care for yourself.

646
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:30,959
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

647
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: I think what I've been trying to do in this

648
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: moment in time, I'm still figuring it out. Like I've

649
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: really been in deep prayer with God, like how do

650
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: you want to use me? Now?

651
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: You know?

652
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: Now that I finish my book, I still do my

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Speaker 1: all the work I do with the partners that I

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Speaker 1: a lot of space because it took a lot of

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Speaker 1: space to do that. So now I'm noticed saying like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I have like space for creativity, I have more space

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Speaker 1: for service. What do I want that service to look like?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: I have a couple of ideas, but not all the

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Speaker 1: way sure yet I'm really just in like communing with

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Speaker 1: God and just use me. How do you want to

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Speaker 1: use me?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Where do I go?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: What does this moment need? And what do I have

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Speaker 1: to give this moment to bring to this moment? And

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Speaker 1: humanity in my life? But much like you, I really

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Speaker 1: relate to this. I've been letting myself do absolutely utterly

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Speaker 1: nothing like love it. I work so much, I travel

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Speaker 1: so much, and I'm a mama, Yeah you know it all. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's getting done.

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Speaker 3: But I'm I mean, now, I know I see what

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Speaker 3: I see on social media, but I'm like, oh, she's

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Speaker 3: here and there and this and that.

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Speaker 1: But it's so amazing, thank you, It's I'm grateful, it's

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Speaker 1: many things. It requires a lot of the body and

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Speaker 1: the heart and the mind. And so I think something

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Speaker 1: I've loved now is that in some of the rest

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Speaker 1: work I've been doing with myself ever since I took

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Speaker 1: that I really trust that when I have nothing to do,

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Speaker 1: it's because it's God's reward for me. Like, I really

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Speaker 1: trust that. And so whereas I used to be like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I got thirty minutes, what can I get done in

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Speaker 1: that time? And I would try to do something that

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Speaker 1: does need to get done in the house or in

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Speaker 1: my life. And now I say, I absolutely know I

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Speaker 1: can do that tomorrow. I absolutely know there will be

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Speaker 1: time to do that next Thursday. Take this thirty minutes

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Speaker 1: right now and sit and do absolutely nothing. And that

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Speaker 1: feels yeah. You know, I know we've been saying this

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Speaker 1: that rest is revolutionary, but it really is like something

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Speaker 1: to take in when you just let yourself sit and

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Speaker 1: look out a window or stare at the ceiling. It's

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Speaker 1: so true or accomplished, not a single thing deeply. Well,

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Speaker 1: your book is coming out November fourth.

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Speaker 3: It's also my birthday, is it really?

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Speaker 1: Oh? That's special?

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Speaker 3: Fortieth birthday. Oh, my crazy, Oh.

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Speaker 1: That's a portal's.

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Speaker 3: Plan for that. And when I got on the first

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Speaker 3: doom with my publisher, I had thought it was going

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Speaker 3: to be October and they said, okay, so pub day

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Speaker 3: is going to be November fourth, and I was like,

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Speaker 3: do you know that's my birthday and they're like, no,

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Speaker 3: so crazy. So it's a lot.

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Speaker 1: That is like very special. Yeah, that's very special by design.

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Speaker 3: No actis so with this book.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a tall order that we need

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Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty five heartfelt notes to help me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what is your hope for, dear friend? What is your

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Speaker 1: hope for this book? For who it reaches, for how

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Speaker 1: it makes people feel?

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Speaker 3: So many things. You know, when we first started a

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Speaker 3: peaceful mind, peaceful life For those who don't know, my

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Speaker 3: mom's been practicing and then teaching meditation and mindfulness for

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Speaker 3: my whole life, and so growing up she taught workshops

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Speaker 3: at our local university and had you know, sat songs

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Speaker 3: and meditation groups. But also before going to school or

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Speaker 3: before starting the day, she would read a passage from

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Speaker 3: a book or a poem she loves poetry, or you know,

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Speaker 3: something that she had been inspired by lately, and so

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Speaker 3: that kind of set the tone for a practice for

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Speaker 3: me and for us of you know, starting the day

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Speaker 3: in inspiration, positivity, being uplifted before you know, the chaos

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Speaker 3: of the day unfolds, and you know, then fast forwarding

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Speaker 3: to peace of mind, peaceful life with that community of

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Speaker 3: you know, my mom coming in from her side with

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Speaker 3: all the tools that she had been practicing and studying

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Speaker 3: and teaching for all of these years. But for me,

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Speaker 3: I always felt too that it would be so amazing

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Speaker 3: to have a space where if people could find community

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Speaker 3: maybe if they don't have that in their everyday lives.

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Speaker 3: And this was like way back in Facebook days, so

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Speaker 3: before Instagram and all of those things, and I just

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Speaker 3: always wanted people to feel like they had to save space,

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Speaker 3: maybe feel like they were understood or could be exactly

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Speaker 3: who they were, or to get some inspiration or insights.

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Speaker 3: And so taking all of that with this book is

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Speaker 3: I just hope that you know it's called dear Friend,

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Speaker 3: because so many of the people that I've met online

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Speaker 3: and in social media and in real life, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's like we're friends, and this is what I would

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Speaker 3: say to you as a friend, But also maybe it's

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Speaker 3: something that I would want to hear from a friend

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Speaker 3: in the past. And I know that loneliness is such

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Speaker 3: a huge thing for people right now. We feel so

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Speaker 3: disconnected from each other, from large groups of people, even

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Speaker 3: from our friends, from our families, and so it's just

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Speaker 3: my hope that this book could be a friend if

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Speaker 3: you need it, could be, you know, a source of comfort,

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Speaker 3: or maybe you need a nudge to start a project,

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Speaker 3: or you know whatever. I hope that it meets the

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Speaker 3: reader where they are and gives them what they need

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Speaker 3: in that moment. And obviously I know that I can't

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Speaker 3: be everything to everyone, but it's just filled with with

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Speaker 3: the things that I've learned and picked up along the

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Speaker 3: way that have helped me. And I know that we

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Speaker 3: all are walking through this life with different perspectives and

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Speaker 3: viewing it through our own lens. But I do think

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Speaker 3: there are ties that bind us that can be you know, universal,

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Speaker 3: and so I hope that you know, whoever might need

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Speaker 3: it can feel comforted by it.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful. When we end every episode, I ask for piece

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Speaker 1: of soul work from our guests. Oh, so that can

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Speaker 1: be a practice, that can be a reflection, that can

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Speaker 1: be a quote, but it's something to kind of integrate

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Speaker 1: the energy of what this episode is.

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Speaker 3: HM. I really like the concept of not being afraid

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Speaker 3: of what's true for you in any given moment, and

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Speaker 3: not being afraid to lean into your truth and take

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Speaker 3: actions from your truth and maybe speak from your truth

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Speaker 3: and let let that practice build your confidence and your

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Speaker 3: inner strength from within. Because I do think these times

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Speaker 3: that we're living in are difficult, but I know that

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Speaker 3: the more that I listen to myself and trust myself

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Speaker 3: and follow my intuition or whatever guidance is guiding me, like,

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Speaker 3: I feel the strength within me build and it's like

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Speaker 3: I want to keep adding on to that. And it's

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Speaker 3: a practice, Like everything is a practice, And so what

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Speaker 3: I'm practicing is being brave and leaning into what's true

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Speaker 3: for me and not you know, I'm a recovering people,

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Speaker 3: please are. I have had a history of like caring

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Speaker 3: way too much about what other people think of me

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Speaker 3: and if I'm not going to be liked, and and

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Speaker 3: I really find myself pushing up against that in these

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Speaker 3: times because I know sometimes if I speak from what's

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Speaker 3: true for me, it's not going to be received by all.

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Speaker 3: How can I be okay with that because the practice

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Speaker 3: of doing that for me is what I needed to do.

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Speaker 3: And so it's that back and forth and just leaning

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Speaker 3: into the trust of it and knowing that it's that

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Speaker 3: it's okay. It's okay to not be liked by everyone.

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Speaker 3: It's okay to you know, to push back, you know,

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Speaker 3: and have feel that pushback from others, but know that

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Speaker 3: doesn't take away from my worthiness, from my worth for

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Speaker 3: my ability to be loved and accepted. And that's true

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Speaker 3: for everyone too. And it's like playing that game with

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Speaker 3: myself of you know, pushing forward and then internalizing it

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Speaker 3: and then being at peace with it.

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Speaker 1: Say the first part again.

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Speaker 3: I feel as if I'm in a practice of listening

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Speaker 3: to what's true for me, understanding what that truth equates

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Speaker 3: to as far as actions, and and trusting that it's

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Speaker 3: okay to speak my truth even if it means someone

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Speaker 3: else might not like it, or that someone else might

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Speaker 3: be angry, or someone else might misunderstand it. Those are

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Speaker 3: all okay, and that doesn't detract from me being a worthy,

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Speaker 3: lovable person in this world. That matters, and you know

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Speaker 3: that is true for everybody else as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. Get your journals everyone, because that,

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Speaker 1: especially that opening sentence you said, I think is such

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Speaker 1: a powerful prompt to start like what is true for me? Now?

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Speaker 1: What is true for you? Sorry?

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Speaker 3: No, no, just because sometimes the truth is like it

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Speaker 3: screens to us sometimes in silence, like I especially, you know,

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Speaker 3: when we started off this conversation about speaking up about things,

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Speaker 3: engaging in these conversations on social media, I found within

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Speaker 3: myself that there were times when I would sit with

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Speaker 3: myself and it just I felt the screen from within

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Speaker 3: of like, you can't be silent about this. Maybe other

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Speaker 3: things you can let other people tackle, but there were

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Speaker 3: issues that would rise up within me that I could

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Speaker 3: not ignore. And so that was the practice for me.

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Speaker 3: Am I going to ignore this or push it down?

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Speaker 3: Am I going to listen? I'm not going to sit

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Speaker 3: and see what is the best path, take some space

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Speaker 3: to like figure out what I want to say in

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Speaker 3: a way that's not like reactive and amped up, but

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Speaker 3: just like not being afraid to listen what the truth

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Speaker 3: is trying to tell me and ask for me in

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Speaker 3: this moment.

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Speaker 1: I love that, dear friend. Daily Love Notes for contemplation,

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Speaker 1: connection and clarity is available everywhere. November fourth, your debut book,

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Speaker 1: How can everyone connect.

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Speaker 3: With you on social media. I'm at Michelle Merross our

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Speaker 3: podcast as Life Happens with Marbon Michelle and Peace of Mind.

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Speaker 3: Peaceful Life is our nonprofit that has all of the

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Speaker 3: insights and inspiration and beautiful wisdom like from people like yourself,

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Speaker 3: all in all the social medias.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for jank you so this is.

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Speaker 3: So special, and I'm just so grateful for you and

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Speaker 3: all of the energy and insights and wisdom that you

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Speaker 3: put out into the world. It's so special.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thank you, same, same, same, same,

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Speaker 1: And I can't wait, Like I love your podcast. I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to come with your podcast.

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Speaker 3: Dabby will be on our podcast do a swap, y'all? Yes, said.

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Speaker 1: Michelle. Thank you so much, my friend. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: your work. Thank you for this book. I can't wait

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Speaker 1: to get it. I could use this deeply.

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Speaker 3: It's coming to you. I've just been told that the

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Speaker 3: books are in the warehouse, so it's coming to you.

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Speaker 1: Oh how exciting. Yes, Oh, the journey began. Yep, the

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Speaker 1: new author journey. Oh my lord, it's a journey. Anything

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Speaker 1: you need on the path?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 1: Yeah. November fourth, Dear friend, Daily Love Notes for contemplation, connection, clarity.

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Speaker 1: We all need a lot of that in our lives

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Speaker 1: and our hearts right now. Thank you for joining us,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thank you everyone, as always for listening.

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Speaker 1: Please share this episode with a friend and we'll be

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Speaker 1: back next week now Mistayday. The content presented on Deeply

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