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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. This is the start of our

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Speaker 2: number two of the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network,

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Speaker 2: and as such, it is time for the Fantasy football focus.

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Speaker 2: And this being regular season, yeah, you focus a little

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Speaker 2: bit more on players, yes, today, matchups and all kind

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Speaker 2: of time. We mentioned earlier in the show to start

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Speaker 2: the first hour. The injury report is not only out

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Speaker 2: for the Steelers, it's out for the entire league. Here

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Speaker 2: and get some ideas about who might be in, who

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Speaker 2: might be out. Marshawn and Lattimore limited by a hip injury.

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Speaker 2: They're actually pretty deep at corner. But that's a big lot.

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Speaker 3: That's a big one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So thattal defense

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Speaker 3: worries me. That's in terms of age, and they're relying

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Speaker 3: on a lot of guys Laddimer or older.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they are. I wonder if you give Deontay

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Speaker 2: Johnson a little bump.

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Speaker 3: There, maybe yeah, he would travel. And Johnson's pretty good

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Speaker 3: against man coverage. That's a big man team. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's a good week for Johnson.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Panthers tight ends Tommy Tremble and Ian Thomas misspractice today.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that bumps Deontay up even more even more so. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's a bad tight end room. But you know, but

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Speaker 3: that could help out Jatavian Saunders.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he wondered how we got there.

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Speaker 3: I haven't been on top of the Panthers tight end.

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Speaker 3: They're not draftable for fantasy, and I mean those guys

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Speaker 3: aren't bad players, but you wonder how fast do they

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Speaker 3: plan to get Saunders involved? Yeah, because he's talented, dude.

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Speaker 2: Talent to dude is round draft picker. Probably. I mean

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Speaker 2: a lot of people thought he might go in the

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Speaker 2: first round. Then he didn't run great. Maybe he's a

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Speaker 2: second or third round guy and they get him in

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Speaker 2: a fourth.

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Speaker 3: They got on the fourth right, and they need a

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Speaker 3: tight end bad.

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Speaker 2: Miles Sanders limited in practice today. If you're too be

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Speaker 2: bird owner, that's very good news. That's very good news.

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Speaker 3: I think Tuba is well ahead of him, right, I assume. So,

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Speaker 3: I mean, while we're waiting on Brooks.

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Speaker 2: You know, if that's the case, if Miles Sanders can't play, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Cuba Huver's getting twenty touches.

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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. I think he's becomes a starter then.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's a top twenty back for Fantasy. If

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Speaker 3: Sanders is out.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the volume alone, right, and he produced.

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Speaker 3: I say he was a borderline starter with sand.

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Speaker 2: When he gets volume, he's produced.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not bad. Yeah, he's not bad. I assume

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Speaker 3: it and try to run the ball.

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Speaker 2: Brock Bauers returned to practice today, but out since week

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Speaker 2: one with the foot issue. It's now game time.

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Speaker 3: That's big.

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Speaker 2: Get him out there.

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Speaker 3: I think he's startable. It's a little risky borderline.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little risky as a rookie, but I'd

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Speaker 2: roll with it if that's the best you got. Well.

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Speaker 2: I so in ar League, I drafted him because he

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Speaker 2: was all was left. Yeah, but then I also drafted

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Speaker 2: Taysom Hill, and.

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Speaker 3: I can see you being torn.

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Speaker 2: I'm torn. I mean, if he hadn't practiced today or tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: then you're definitely doing hell. Yeah, most definitely. I think

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Speaker 2: the Saints are gonna just steamroll Carolina. Yeah, and Taysom

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Speaker 2: Hill carries. Taysom Hill is gonna goal line carries probably.

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Speaker 2: I mean he he falls into the end zone and

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Speaker 3: In the game, if he gets six carries, you win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. That's tough call. Yeah, that's tough call.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The Vikings are optimistic about Jordan Addison's ankle.

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Speaker 3: I heard that too. I think it's a high ankle

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Speaker 3: sprain though, and they always linger.

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Speaker 2: ankle issue. That's what that happened in mid August. He

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Speaker 3: an Addison owner. Though for fantasy, I bet you don't

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Speaker 3: I'd love to see a week before I put him

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mitch Trubisky limited with the knee injury today. He's

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Speaker 2: only that's the only other quarterback on Yeah. Okay, they

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Speaker 2: do have Mike White on the practice squad. They'd have

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Speaker 3: But you're gonna do it three times, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how about this one. It's just kind of fantasy worthy.

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Speaker 2: Bow Knicks was named one of the Broncos captains.

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Speaker 3: I heard we're kind of joking about in the air

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Speaker 3: a little bit on a podcast Once in a while.

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Speaker 3: I think coaches go to the team leaders and be like,

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Speaker 3: it'd be really nice if Bo Nixt was the captain. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, that's what that felt like to me, And

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Speaker 3: it's that doesn't mean disrespect. I think he's earned their respect.

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Speaker 3: He works hard.

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Speaker 2: He's six year guy. I mean he started eighty seven games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, But is he a captain? You know that's

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Speaker 3: different than the naming Russell Wilson the captain.

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Speaker 2: Kind of putting the cart in front of the horseley.

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Speaker 3: What if you ben him man for three weeks?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase practice today? Yeah, yeah, yeah, good news for

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Speaker 2: all those people who ended up with Jamar Chase in their.

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Speaker 3: Drafts, which was me in our draft. And I assume

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Speaker 3: he's back and ready to roll. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 2: I just wonder how much how much use did he

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Speaker 2: he hasn't practiced all summer because he out there for

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Speaker 3: That would surprise me.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's easy to say that

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Speaker 2: you're starting to matter what if he's in your Yeah, Oh,

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Speaker 2: you're going to have the draft him in the first round.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this might not be his best game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Romeo Dobbs limited on Wednesday. That's important for them

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Speaker 2: because they play Friday in Rio de Janeiro.

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Speaker 3: M Okay, they have so many receivers, I would not

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Speaker 3: I mean maybe Wix, Watson and Reid hold down the

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Speaker 2: I would think so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And I know they like Dobbs and I'm

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Speaker 3: not there every day, but he's my least favorite of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fifty nine catches though last year he saw a player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just like the other three a lot.

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Speaker 2: Marshawn Lloyd limited on Wednesday as well.

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Speaker 3: I think that was good news.

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Speaker 4: Though.

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Speaker 3: I think he's trending in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: I bet they hold him out though this week as

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Speaker 3: Yeah, with pass protection issues, Yeah, something really done a lot.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who their other dude is since Dalan's out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it's I heard the name this morning and I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nobody, but Jacobs job is gonna.

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Speaker 3: Get Yeah, he's got a lot of a lot of run.

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Speaker 2: Tucker Craft was added to their injury report. Luke Musgrave

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Speaker 3: I mean if he misses, that's a starter.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean Devin White not making a trip with the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: He's out for this game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not even there. So if Craft were rolled out,

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Speaker 3: which there'd only be two teams gone, would you start

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Speaker 2: Two tight end options in neighbor?

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Speaker 3: They'd be right there for me, Like, it's a really

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Speaker 3: hard conversation. Yeah, that's a tough one, but I think

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Speaker 3: that's where he's at. A borderline starter.

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Speaker 2: Matt Gay, who is the kicker for the Colts. He

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Speaker 2: had surgery, Hernie's surgery and could miss week one. Well

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Speaker 2: that's significant.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean he's one of the better ones

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Speaker 3: and highly paid Dome guy playing the Texans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, point to get the difference between winning and losing.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if they sign a guy like Matthew Wright.

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Speaker 3: It makes some sense. Yeah, and I'm victim of this too.

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Speaker 3: I don't pay enough attention to kickers, but better make

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Speaker 3: sure they play right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, don't just pencil him in and just

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Speaker 2: be done with them for the year. Josh Down's not

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Speaker 2: practicing today, he is. That doesn't sound good. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: up in the air for Week one against the Texans.

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Speaker 3: I think he's another high ankle one. Yeah, there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of studies that people that guys that injured the

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Speaker 3: high ankle's brain and camp take much longer to come

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Speaker 2: It's a bad and it just slows you down. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel back practicing in full.

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Speaker 3: So I think the usage there and it was certainly

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Speaker 3: throughout is Shakir's the three. So they're probably gonna play

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Speaker 3: a fair amount of twelve with Kinkaid and Knocks, and

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Speaker 2: I don't love any neither one of those options on

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Speaker 2: the outside, that's the thing. I think they're all slots.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean. I think that's a

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Speaker 3: weird construction. I think all of it just lends the

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Speaker 3: Kincaid catching a lot of balls. Yeah, and probably James

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Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts, as we mentioned, dealing with that hamstring injury.

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Speaker 3: That's tomorrow is gonna be a big deal on that one.

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Speaker 2: That's massive for them if he can't play because they

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Speaker 2: don't have their just pack catcher. Depth is bad, it

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Speaker 3: And the backup tight ends are bad, and the third

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Speaker 3: fourth receivers are bad. Their starters aren't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kadarius Tony visited with the Seahawks today.

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Speaker 3: I heard he's gonna take his time because so many

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Speaker 3: people want him so bad. And you know, yeah whatever,

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Speaker 3: easy to be in the practice.

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Speaker 2: You ed to learn how to sign his name, I jes.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, Yeah, I learned how to run routes.

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Speaker 2: As I mentioned, Devin White rolled out for Week one.

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Speaker 2: Their linebackers are still an issue.

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Speaker 3: There's still an issue. I mean, I think the Kobe

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Speaker 3: Dean is somebody they're starting to trust.

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Speaker 2: Takes those young linebackers some times, take some time. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you can exploit that group and Devin White something great period.

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Speaker 2: Patrick's certain got a ninety contract, four year, ninety six

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Speaker 2: million dollar contract extension seventy seven and a half million

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Speaker 3: It's a big number. I mean, he's worth it. He's

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Speaker 3: we talked about it last week, like he cost two

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Speaker 3: first round picks if you were in a trade.

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Speaker 2: You know, you were talking about it, and then you'd

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Speaker 2: have to sign them a contract like that, ye know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Sauce Gardener's not up yet, but there's

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Speaker 3: Okay, that doesn't surprise them. They were saving their guys.

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Speaker 3: I'd rather un him than Gus Edwards.

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Speaker 2: They Herbert's going.

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Speaker 3: To do that and they don't have any other receiving offs.

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Speaker 2: No I'm not. They're not guys. I would have picked

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Speaker 3: I don't think he did last year he did not. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Who's your defensive coordinator wink is gone? Yeah, I can't

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Speaker 3: Sure, you know, big enough job as it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't shock me if the Giants lose a game or

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it does too. I mean they don't

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening

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Speaker 2: to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt

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Speaker 4: At least.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt as frequent listeners to the show. No,

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Speaker 2: we are big fans of Aaron Shats's DVOA. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and he has his DVOA out for the season in

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Speaker 3: I know, and I'm not exactly sure why they.

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Speaker 3: I mean, history shows it does.

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Speaker 2: But there's been an outlier.

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Speaker 3: There's been an outlier in more than one and there's

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Speaker 3: shall see. I forget exactly how he phrased it. I

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Speaker 2: I'm like, maybe, But they had a rookie quarterback starting. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think so. I'm pretty sure. So I don't

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Speaker 2: Well, you also have teams that you're you're you're down

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Speaker 3: And sometimes it's a good defense, right, you know you're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was kind of surprised though, because he has Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: in on the Ravens being that much better, yeah than

439
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,720
Speaker 2: Cincinnati and Cleveland comes in at five point four.

440
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,920
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to defend their DVA system. I'm just

441
00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:02,239
Speaker 3: trying to get in their heads. I know one thing

442
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,159
Speaker 3: that he does with special teams is the Ravens are

443
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 3: always the top every year and that's like one eighth

444
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 3: to the puzzle. I mean it's three pieces defense.

445
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 2: Not enough to put up a ten percent.

446
00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 3: No, but they're always at the top of his projections

447
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,240
Speaker 3: because since they've been doing DVA, they're the best team

448
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 3: by far. So that's one thing. And I do know

449
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 3: they ended this regular season number one in DVOA.

450
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Steelers were ninth. Yeah yeah, yeah, I

451
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 2: mean that's they were ninth in DVOA to end last season.

452
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 2: They added to this roster.

453
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 3: See, I think the Steelers added and the Ravens subtracted, right,

454
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 3: you know. More So that's what I don't get.

455
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So their main wins in the AFC North

456
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 2: is Baltimore at eleven, Cincinnati at nine point eight, Cleveland

457
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 2: at nine point one, and the Steelers at seven point three. Okay,

458
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 2: I compare.

459
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 3: I just don't think the discrepancy from top to bottom,

460
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 3: no matter what order you put him in, should be

461
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 3: that wide.

462
00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 2: I don't think it should be twenty four points.

463
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,400
Speaker 3: The Steelers won in Baltimore last and I'd say that's

464
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 3: too big a gap, you know what I mean, Like

465
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 3: the four teams are pretty the.

466
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 2: Gap in the AFC East between he is Miami number one, right,

467
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 2: it's a ten point nine projected TV. Actually, Buffalo is

468
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 2: number one at the eleven point nine projected DVOA, but

469
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 2: comes out with a fewer Meme wins, a lesser percentage

470
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 2: of wins than Miami.

471
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 3: The schedule.

472
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, New England's minus nine point five. You can't tell

473
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 2: me the Steelers are closer to New England than they

474
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 2: are Cleveland.

475
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 3: Nice, you're saying a great way of saying it. Or

476
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 3: closer to Miami or the Jets for that matter. I

477
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 3: mean the Steelers are still closer to the top three

478
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 3: teams in the East.

479
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 2: The Jets are two point nine. Jets are two nine.

480
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 2: That's pretty low for them too. Yeah, like I I

481
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 2: don't believe that one for one second. Tennessee. Tennessee is

482
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 2: minus six point two. You can't tell me that the

483
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 2: Titans are a better football in the Steelers.

484
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't believe that at all either. Interesting. I'm

485
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 3: not sure what the logic is crushing the Steelers so hard.

486
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 2: I don't get it either. Yeah. In fact, the Colts

487
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 2: are dead last in the AFC South minus ten point six.

488
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 2: You can't tell me that the Colts are our worst

489
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 2: team than New England ninem close.

490
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 3: I don't think that's close. No, right, I mean I

491
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 3: don't know that still holds up. And you and I

492
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 3: aren't the hugest Bears fans. But he had the Bear

493
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 3: or they had the Bears at thirtieth in the league

494
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,640
Speaker 3: in their original projected DVAS. I'm sure they're not much

495
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 3: different now. I mean, they're not the third worst team

496
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 3: in the league. No, he's really hard on the Eagles.

497
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 3: I'm really high on the Saints.

498
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 2: How about this one in the AFC, West Kansas City's

499
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 2: a fifteen point two. Okay on the positive side, Ye, yeah,

500
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: the Raiders are minus seven point three, so he feels

501
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 2: their DVA field the Raiders are a better team than

502
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 2: the Steelers.

503
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see that at all.

504
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 2: The charge are minus thirteen point six Denvers minus thirteen

505
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 2: point three. That I can agree with you.

506
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 3: I say they were one of the few people that

507
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 3: I see the Chargers the same way we do. Yeah,

508
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 3: I mean that that seems rare, But.

509
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 2: I I don't see the Titans and the Raiders is

510
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: better teams than the Steelers. I don't see the Steelers

511
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 2: in the same conversation with New England.

512
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 3: No, none of those three teams to me or even

513
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 3: in the tier with the Steelers, Yeah, not your close, but.

514
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 2: That's that's where they're DVA right now. Has the Steelers ranked, Yeah,

515
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 2: it just doesn't make a lot of sense. No, it

516
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 2: doesn't because when we go ahead and look at last year's.

517
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 3: Because even like strength of schedule, New England's got an

518
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 3: awful schedule. I mean, yeah, they're right there at the

519
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 3: Steelers with hardest schedule the league, and they're not better,

520
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 3: no anything.

521
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 2: So when you look at last year's total team DVOA,

522
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 2: these were the top ten teams, and it's loading here.

523
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 2: Of course, it's taking. It's good sweet time. Usually this stuff.

524
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 2: I'm almost certain I know Baltimore was one. I think

525
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: the Niners were two, and I think they were two

526
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 2: of the best dvoa's they've ever had in like the

527
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 2: thirty some years that they've done DVA that they had

528
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 2: by their metrics, had some of the best regular seasons

529
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: in the last thirty some years. Yeah, this is taking

530
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: forever to load here. Yeah, right, I don't know why,

531
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean the Steelers finished ninth in team

532
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: DVOA last year. The defense, I believe was sixth.

533
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 3: Defense was high special team off the middle of the road.

534
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially Yeah, and the offense slowly climbed over the

535
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 2: courses eason and they start running the ball. They ran

536
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 2: the ball really well.

537
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they start run the ball. It started inching up,

538
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 3: inching up every week. Yeah, still not loading for you.

539
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 2: No, it is not. This is what happens when you

540
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 2: count the computers for stuff. But yeah, I just I

541
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 2: looked at that today when when he tweeted that out,

542
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 2: and I started looking at him like that seems strange.

543
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 3: That seems strange. And he'll be the fir to admit

544
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 3: there's a handful of teams that don't quite add up,

545
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 3: but his numbers over the years are pretty good, you know,

546
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 3: like his projections are end up being come to fruition

547
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 3: pretty well. He also said when I talked to him,

548
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 3: the Steelers are a weird team, and I very much

549
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 3: believe that that they kind of buck a lot of

550
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 3: analytical trends. And I think a lot of it is

551
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 3: because Tomin's a really good coach.

552
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, Well, don't tell people

553
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 2: in pittsforg you know, some people in Pittsburgh got anyway, right.

554
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 3: I mean, so we were just chatting with with Justin

555
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 3: here before we hit record over the last three years,

556
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 3: when they lose the turnover battle, they're like zero sixteen

557
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 3: and one. When they win or even tie it, they

558
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 3: win like eighty percent of their games. Well, don't give

559
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 3: Tom had a hard time for managing turnovers more than

560
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: other teams because he knows these things, you know what

561
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 3: I mean, Like, it's not it's not a chicken or

562
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 3: egg situation. It's the coach knowing because as our team

563
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 3: and structured this winner, we can't turn we can't lose

564
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 3: the turnover battle, but we lose every game.

565
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: Apparently that's just a problem with FTN Fantasy, which is

566
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: where you can find the defeat.

567
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 3: Yea, it is good stuff. We're not bashing it at all.

568
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 3: To check it out.

569
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: Apparently they have some kind of issue with the other

570
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 2: site's website right now. Maybe they're getting hammered with all

571
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 2: these people going on there, everybody listening listening to the

572
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: show checking it out themselves. Uh Bill Bill barn Will

573
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 2: put out a piece today projecting the playoff team. Playoff teams.

574
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 2: You said there are twenty teams that could make it.

575
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 3: That's safe. Yeah, but I mean we all pretend like

576
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 3: we know stuff. The Texans over underwin total one year

577
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 3: ago today was like five, yeah, you know, and no one,

578
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 3: and they would have been a can't make the playoff team.

579
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 2: I will say this though, their division sure helps, sure helped.

580
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 2: Like Carolina, I'm just gonna say Carolina, that team is

581
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 2: sure probably not, but if it happened, it would help

582
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 2: because of the division that they're in. Yes, yes, if

583
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: Carolina was a little better, I'd be like maybe, But

584
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 2: there's gonna be one of those teams. Hey if c J.

585
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 2: Stroud makes a jump and plays like or Bryce Shung

586
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 2: she plays.

587
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: At least they have a pedigree guy that right, you know,

588
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 3: and they're putting something around on Me's throwing the Deontae.

589
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 3: But now their defensive who knows?

590
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: Uh? The team's Barmeloa has returning to the postseason. Kansas City, okay,

591
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 2: Baltimore not chalking, Okay, Buffalo. I could see a world

592
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: where Buffalo doesn't make it. I could do.

593
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 3: I could see them being first or third in their division.

594
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, uh. Dallas okay, but they're not fool. The

595
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 2: d v o A on Dallas was not high. They

596
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: were not v O A was not kind to Dallas

597
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: at all.

598
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 3: One thing about Dallas with the DVOA world, their d

599
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 3: v O A was worse than their in total. Yeah,

600
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 3: because they happen to be really low in Philly and

601
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 3: DVOA has Washington and the Giants as the worst two

602
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 3: teams in the league. So they have six games that

603
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 3: they think are easy in the division.

604
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

605
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 3: I don't see Philly that way, but.

606
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: You know Detroit, Yeah, okay, Green Bay playoff team all

607
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: day long.

608
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

609
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 2: San Francisco playoff team probably. Okay, the Rams, I'm on

610
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 2: the fence about them. I did not have them make

611
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 2: my seven in the NFC. I just think they're fragile.

612
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: They are very fragile without Donald and without maybe their

613
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: second best defensive player who they's gave way for nothing,

614
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 2: Ernest Jones. And I'm a Stafford fan.

615
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 3: We just talked about Stafford those quarterback rankings, but counting

616
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 3: on him and Rogers at that age is a little rough.

617
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: You know, teams of injuries now, teams who he has

618
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: either being out or in. He is the Eagles out.

619
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: NFC is soft.

620
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 3: I mean i'd be if they're not a top seventeen.

621
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: He has the Bears in. I think that's people are

622
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: a little too excited. I think that's supret. I think

623
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: the Bears and the Chargers are the two teams that

624
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: everybody's way too ahead of things on. Yeah.

625
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 3: I forget who the other one was, but we did

626
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 3: that over under stuff today and they were some of

627
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 3: my favorite bets.

628
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: The Unders. Yeah, Tampa Bay out. Maybe I don't know

629
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: who's better between Tampa Bay and Atlanta. He is a

630
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: Saints in the Saints win that division, so Daron shots.

631
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 3: Guess because he's His statement on the Saints was, I

632
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 3: know what they are and it's mediocre and that's good enough. Yeah,

633
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 3: like in that that division in that conference, you.

634
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: Know right out the Miami Dolphins, Okay.

635
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 3: I'm their borderline.

636
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: In the New York Jets that picture they're a fragile

637
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: team though they're very fragile.

638
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 3: The Rams and Jets, to me are very fragile.

639
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of Jets are counting on a ton

640
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: of old guys, but all hits.

641
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: It could be really good.

642
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: History shows us that old guys have issues.

643
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 3: When we talked about divisions the East, I looked at

644
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 3: like kind of like last year, remember Buffalo, it was

645
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: like Thanksgiving. It's like they need everything to go right

646
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 3: to even get in the playoffs. I could see that

647
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 3: being Buffalo. Is it gets cold, Miami's winning the division

648
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 3: and then losing a couple they shouldn't losing a couple

649
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 3: they shouldn't. Jets lose a player they shouldn't lose another

650
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 3: player they shouldn't. Buffalo then ends up winning the division

651
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 3: yet again.

652
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: You know, he's out on the Cleveland Browns.

653
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: Understandable.

654
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: I don't know who's in on though in the AFC.

655
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: If you're not, you're out on all these teams. In

656
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: on Cincinnati, Okay, that I get out on the Steelers.

657
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 3: Begin Let this guy he's going to talk about, you know,

658
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: regression on the one score games and that kind of stuff.

659
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: He's in on the Chargers though, again, another one of

660
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: these Chargers lovers that I just don't get it.

661
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: I might pick the Titans ahead of the Chargers.

662
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: I think I think they're going to be a bad

663
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: football team. I did too, Like.

664
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 3: I think everyone realizes their weapons are poor. Yeah, I

665
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 3: mean they're I think they're the worst in the league

666
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 3: running back Titan wide receiver.

667
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: The news came out today that that Harbaugh just moved

668
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: a three hundred pounds defensive tackle and said he's our

669
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 2: starting fullback. No, really, I don't know how much fullback

670
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: they'll play.

671
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 3: But that's weird. But I was about to talk about

672
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: the defensive tackles, like they do not have starting defensive tackles.

673
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: Oh, they're making the defensive tackles fullbacks. Yeah, and the

674
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: linebackers aren't good off the ball.

675
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 3: You know, they're counting on the Michigan kid Colson to

676
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 3: kind of be an every down dude, and Mac and

677
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: Bosa are great.

678
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: But how many games do you know those two? Right?

679
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're twenty, i'd take it. I don't

680
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 3: see the defense.

681
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: No, I don't either. He's out on the Houston Texans.

682
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: I bet he's a player, that's the principal guy. He's

683
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: in on Jacksonville.

684
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: I kind of get it.

685
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: I'm just looking. So if you're out on the on Miami,

686
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: mm hmm, you're out on Cleveland, you're out on Houston,

687
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: you're out on Pittsburgh. Who the hell is making the

688
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: playoffs and the division? I don't even know.

689
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 3: I didn't read.

690
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jacksonville would have to win the division division if

691
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: the Jets and Buffalo make it.

692
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 3: I couldn't remember the in or out on Buffalo. I

693
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: think he was in on Buffalo. I thought he was too.

694
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: I think that was one of those guarantees.

695
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 3: Okay, like.

696
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: AFC is brutal, then you have you have the you.

697
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: So your wild cards would be Cincinnati, the Chargers, and

698
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: I guess Jet Jets yuck. Yeah, I mean I think

699
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: Cincinnati goes.

700
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 3: I think so. Yeah, I don't think the Jets are crazy.

701
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: I think Chargers being out, Like to have the Chargers

702
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: in and the Texans out, it is weird to me. Yeah,

703
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: that's that's I won't agree with that.

704
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't agree with that at all.

705
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: I could see the Texans not being a dominant team

706
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 3: or taking a huge step forward because they took us

707
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 3: a huge step forward. But I still think they're definitely

708
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: the favorite in that division.

709
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: His Super Bowl pick the Chiefs over the Packers interesting.

710
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: I don't think that's bonkers, and I don't think it

711
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: is either. Yeah, it's awfully difficult to win three of

712
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: them in a row. Nobody's ever done it, He's ever

713
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: done it.

714
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: I mean, this is something bad is going to happen. Yeah,

715
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: been great teams that couldn't do it, including the Steelers,

716
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, that's that's really really tough. I

717
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 3: think the Packers are ready to be the Lions of

718
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: last year, be a Final four team, maybe lose to

719
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: Detroit or San Francisco in the NFC Championship.

720
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: That'd be a great year. Yeah, thank so, that'd be

721
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: a great year if you're Green Bay. Absolutely as young

722
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: as you are. Yeah, but I still I like Detroit.

723
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 3: I like Detroit a lot. They were my NFC pick. Yeah.

724
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: I think San Francisco is gonna be fine, but there's

725
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: been a lot of this actions there.

726
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that they're good knock. I mean

727
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: they could be really really good, but the defense is

728
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: a little.

729
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: Less and we'll see. Yeahsion's not easy either. I think

730
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: a lot of people are sleeping on the Steelers for

731
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: whatever reason. You know. I again, I think this is

732
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 2: a better football team than the one that took the

733
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: field last year. I think the defense is better. I

734
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: think they're going to get better quarterback play. We know

735
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: the coach can coach. Yeah yeah, yeah, these predictions are

736
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 2: seven wins and things like that. I don't get it.

737
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 3: No, I mean top ten pick, Like, I don't see

738
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 3: that I don't see it at.

739
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 2: All at all. Yeah, But anyways, let's get to another break.

740
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're

741
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 2: listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

742
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: Matt and I will be back to finish up the

743
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 2: show right.

744
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 4: After this.

745
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: As the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

746
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

747
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

748
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lallie. He is the Matt Williamson

749
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: and Matt. One of the guys that we expect to

750
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: play a bigger role this season uh with the Steelers

751
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 2: defense is defensive tackle Larry Ogan Joby. I thought he

752
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 2: had a great preseason. We got a chance to talk

753
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: to him last week. He called into the show. I

754
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 2: wanted to replay that for everybody as we get here. Good. Yeah,

755
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: into the eve of the of the Steelers opening the season.

756
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 2: So here's what our conversation with Larry Ogun Joby was like.

757
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 2: And we're pleased at this time to welcome Steelers defensive

758
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: tackle Larry Ogan Joby to the show. And Larry, you've

759
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: been with the team now a few years. It does

760
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: it feel like it's been your entering year three with

761
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: this team.

762
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 4: What's up, guys, Yeah, how you're doing good? Yeah, it

763
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 4: definitely does. Just getting in the field for the camaraderie,

764
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 4: the team, all those kind of things, and just being

765
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 4: the place where you're able to grow and and learn

766
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 4: from coaches and great players. I think just stepping it's

767
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 4: gone by super quick. But it's awesome to get going

768
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 4: to year three and you know, we're excited for the season.

769
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: This this defense this year, Larry, looks like it could

770
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 2: be scary good. We saw the defense. Thank you, guys

771
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: had eleven sacks in the preseason and you did that

772
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: without having Cam tj or Alex Heighsmith out there at all.

773
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 2: You were getting after the quarterback. We saw you know,

774
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: her big get after the quarterback. We see Benton getting

775
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 2: after the quarterback. I mean, you guys might be able

776
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: to come with people in waves this year.

777
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that's just you know, kind of the

778
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 4: room that we're trying to develop. I think we've always

779
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 4: had that next man of mentality, but just being able

780
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 4: to become a team and a group where you just

781
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 4: never know where the big play is coming from and

782
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 4: believing that you can make that play is very important.

783
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 4: So you're starting to see guys really elevate their game

784
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 4: and get confident and run around and make plays, and

785
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 4: it's super exciting.

786
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned the room. You're part of the defensive

787
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 2: line room. It's as deep and talented as I can remember.

788
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 2: Is it something that you and the coaching staff are

789
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: really excited about?

790
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that you kind of said

791
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 4: it coming at people in waves, and you know, especially

792
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 4: with the young guys, playing up and playing fast, I

793
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 4: think is super important. And you know they're learning, they're growing,

794
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 4: and a lot of times when you get the reps,

795
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 4: you know, coming off your rookie season and you know

796
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 4: that a lot of times they say some of the

797
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 4: biggest jumps you make is from year one to year two,

798
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 4: and you're starting to see those and you know, Nick

799
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 4: and Keanu and Leal like this. Guys are playing really

800
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 4: fast and getting up the speed and you're just you're

801
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 4: starting to see that and it's really it's really good.

802
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: We saw we've seen Keanu Benton make some plays last

803
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: year as a rookie. It looks like he's added a

804
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: lot to the repertoire heading into this season. He's going

805
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 2: to be somebody that's gonna be very hard to handle

806
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: from what that appears.

807
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I called him last week, he's a dancing bear,

808
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 4: So you know he's able to get up here. He's

809
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 4: he's good in the run. He has the ability to

810
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 4: become a very special player, and I'm looking forward to

811
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 4: seeing it.

812
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: Well, you're obviously a veteran and have been around, had

813
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 2: a really good career already, but a few careers and

814
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: leadership can compare to Cam Hayward. You know what kind

815
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 2: of effect does he have on you and especially those

816
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: young guys in the room.

817
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 4: Oh, man, Cam like an old statesman. Man, he's just

818
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 4: you think that you know, you're fourteen. There's no lack

819
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 4: of energy, there's no lack of leadership. Man, He's just

820
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 4: he's just out there every day energizing, talking to guys,

821
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 4: lifting people up, you know, really bringing the juice. And

822
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 4: I think that's super important, especially for guys to see

823
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 4: someone you know who is in you're fourteen, still have

824
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 4: that you know, that go get after mentality each and

825
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 4: every day when you come into work. And I mean

826
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 4: it's just testament to not only the player he is,

827
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 4: but the person he is. And I think that guys

828
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 4: easily gravitate to that, and then the kind of sense

829
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 4: the standard for the room, and I think, you know

830
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 4: that's not only the room, but just the team in general.

831
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 4: You know, when you got somebody who could take a

832
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 4: day off for could chill, who's earned that right and

833
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 4: chooses not to, you feel what I'm saying. I think that's,

834
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 4: you know, like I said, just a testament to the

835
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 4: player he is and the person he is.

836
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: You mentioned that he could take days off and doesn't.

837
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: I mean last year would have been in perfect time

838
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 2: for him to just say, you know what, I'm playing

839
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 2: on one leg and I'm just I'm not I'm not

840
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: where I should be. But he toughed it out last

841
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: year a lot and yeah, man, and was still able

842
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 2: to go out there and make plays.

843
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 4: I mean, like I said, that's just a testament to

844
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 4: you know, the player he has been, the player he is,

845
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 4: and just his character as a person. You know, when

846
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 4: you do things right off the field, a lot of

847
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 4: times you know you'll be able to do them right

848
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 4: on the field. And Ham just does everything the right

849
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 4: way and I have nothing respect for him.

850
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: So the guy on the other side, you t J.

851
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: Watt Yeah, he's not bad in his own right.

852
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, Man, TJ's he's a special guy. Man, He's Uh.

853
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 4: As we've grown together a teammates, you know, you start

854
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 4: to learn a person and how they think and how

855
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 4: they move, and just like when it comes to him

856
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 4: and just his approach to work and as approached to

857
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 4: just trying to be the best in the world. You

858
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 4: see that in his daily process. And I think that's

859
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 4: super cool, you know. And like I said, it's great

860
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 4: for the young guys like Herbi to to just get

861
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 4: around him and gravitate towards him and and and watch

862
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 4: that process and then emulate it in a sense. And

863
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 4: like I said, he's he's specially within his own right,

864
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like, you know, he's been

865
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 4: the best in the world a couple of times already,

866
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 4: So just uh, it's just awesome to see that growth,

867
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 4: that development, that that consistent you know, working on your craft,

868
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 4: you know, doing things daily to to find just another

869
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 4: way to get better and say ahead of the curve.

870
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 4: I think it's just one of the things that makes

871
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 4: them super special.

872
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: So Larry, you have a very unique experience in perspective

873
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: on the AFC North that maybe no other player in

874
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,959
Speaker 2: the league does. Do you view it as the best,

875
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 2: most physical, most competitive division out there.

876
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 4: I mean, that's why I've always viewed it, you know,

877
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 4: not only because I've you know, I've been a part

878
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 4: of it my entire career, but just you know, that's

879
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 4: not not to any other division, but just you know,

880
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 4: it's just different up here. I really don't know how

881
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 4: to explain it, but when you play AFC North or

882
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 4: when you play against AFC North teams, like just the

883
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 4: level and I just feel like it's just a different

884
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 4: type of game, you know. And then obviously, you know,

885
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 4: being on the other side, when I played in Cleveland

886
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 4: and Cincinnati, those games just always felt different. And now

887
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 4: even being in Pittsburgh, when I play against those teams,

888
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 4: those games, you know, those divisional opponents, those games just

889
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 4: feel different, you know what I'm saying. And it's just

890
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 4: a special division to me. You know, when when it's know,

891
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 4: late November, late December, like playoff football, you're making a push,

892
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 4: like it's cold outside, like it's just those lights are on.

893
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 4: It's a it's an amazing atmosphere.

894
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: It really is. And and uh, you know, you've you've

895
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 2: been a big part of that. This year, you guys

896
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: bring over a couple of guys who also have experienced

897
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: with some other AFC North teams. Uh, you add the

898
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: Patrick Queen to the second level there, you bring in

899
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: Jalen Elliott as well. All right, what are those guys?

900
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: What have you seen from them that they bring to

901
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 2: this defense?

902
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 4: Just experience and energy, you know, me and uh Pat

903
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 4: have become good friends, and just watching his work and

904
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 4: how he's been able to move around and do the

905
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 4: things that he's done. I think it's just it's just awesome.

906
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 4: And it's like I said, when you're when you've been

907
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 4: in the division for a long time and you understand

908
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 4: what those ribbals who look like, it's kind of cool

909
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 4: to just see how people transition and become your teammates.

910
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 4: And I was like, now you can't wait to play

911
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 4: the team that you used to play for, So I

912
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 4: think it's all super cool.

913
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: Were you nervous about that when you joined the Steelers

914
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 2: when you leave one of those other teams?

915
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 4: I think at first you're kind of like apprehensive because

916
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 4: I think I just think that's a normal human emotion,

917
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 4: Like you've been somewhere for a x amount of years

918
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 4: and now you're going to a different team, but you'll

919
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 4: see the guys that you played with just a year

920
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 4: ago and you build relationships with But obviously that's just

921
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 4: the nature of the business, and you know, it's just

922
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 4: one of those things you got at the end of

923
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 4: the day. You know, when you leave a team and

924
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 4: go to another one, you build camaraderie, you build togetherness,

925
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 4: and then you understand and now you're putting your hand

926
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 4: in a different pile and that's the pot that you

927
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 4: want to move forward with because that's the team that

928
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 4: you're you know, you're aligned with. And I think it's

929
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 4: it's one of those things that gives you a different

930
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 4: perspective For some guys, that adds a little extra fuel

931
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 4: when you play those teams again. And like I said,

932
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 4: it's just I think it's all it's interesting in the

933
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 4: sport and you know, it's just part of it and

934
00:43:58,560 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 4: you gotta love it.

935
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: Not to speak for you, but I would assume you

936
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: know since you ended up here that when you were

937
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: playing against the Steelers when they were the opponent, you're

938
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: probably a great respect for coach Tomlin and I'm sure that.

939
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: Has a lot to do with you ended up here.

940
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,959
Speaker 4: Huh, definitely, of course.

941
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

942
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 4: I always used to, you know, when you're on the

943
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 4: other side when not my first couple of years, it

944
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 4: was always like the Steelers with a big bad brother,

945
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 4: but being able to play against them, and then obviously

946
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 4: when I was in Cincinnati play against them, just having

947
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 4: a different feel for how you know, how fiends can change,

948
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 4: and you know, and it's the ebbs and flows, you know,

949
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 4: even in a in a series or even in like

950
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 4: in a ten year span, you know, just how things

951
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 4: have changed from how they were before how they are now,

952
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 4: and just just the ebbs and flows and how things

953
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 4: and how relationships developed. Like it's just a super interesting

954
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 4: scene to see and it's exciting to be a part

955
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 4: and be on this side now.

956
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: Our guest is Steelers defensive tackle Larry Ogan Job. One

957
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 2: last question here for you for Larry, this this week

958
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: off between the preseason and the start of the regular season,

959
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: is it Yeah, do you enjoy this now that you're

960
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: a veteran guy or you know, you see a day

961
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: like today where it's cut down day and you see

962
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: guys coming and going. Has it changed your perspective at

963
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: all over the years on this day do you enjoy

964
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: this week off or how do you how do you

965
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: approach it?

966
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 4: I mean, personally, it's always a hard day because you know, regardless,

967
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 4: these are you know, these are people that you've built

968
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 4: relationships with and there's in you know, there's a football

969
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 4: is very transient in a sense. You know, people are

970
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 4: coming and going all the time, but it's it's way

971
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 4: more apparent, you know, during this time of year, just

972
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 4: because like this is post camp and you're going from

973
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 4: ninety to fifty three. So I think it's it's hard

974
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 4: in that aspect. But at the same time, I think

975
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 4: it's good to give guys a chance to refresh, you know,

976
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 4: recharge and you know, get ready because the season is long,

977
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, And you know, you spend

978
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 4: a lot of time away from your families through training

979
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 4: camp and all those kind of things, and you want

980
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 4: to be able to get back and refresh and you know,

981
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 4: get your mind away for a second, because like, you know,

982
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 4: the journey is going to be long, and I think

983
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 4: it's a good It's good, you know, you get it

984
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 4: gives you a chance to balance out and you know,

985
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 4: get realigned and get ready because you know, once we

986
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 4: got live you know, there's live bullets now and and

987
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 4: I think that's very important, just not only as a player,

988
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 4: but as a person, you know, as guys who are

989
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 4: you know in the field where sometimes it can stretch

990
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 4: your mental health and things of that nature. I think

991
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 4: it's good to give everybody a chance, coaches, players, just

992
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 4: a chance to reset, recharge and really dive in and

993
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 4: give it your all, you know, once we start the

994
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 4: regular season.

995
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: Well, Larry, we appreciate you stopping by, and we of

996
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 2: course wish you luck in the regular season. Can't wait

997
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: to watch this defense perform this year and good luck

998
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: up so well for you this year.

999
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 4: Thank you, yes, sir, You guys everyone for to day.

1000
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 2: You too. That was Steelers defensive tackle Larry Ogan job

1001
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 2: That was Matt and I's conversation with Steelers defensive tackle

1002
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: Larry Ogan Joby last week. Some good stuff there from Larry.

1003
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: But Matt, that's going to do it for our show today. Yeah,

1004
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 2: we're rolling right along tomorrow.

1005
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 3: We've got NFL football, you know, We've got Steeler practice reports.

1006
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 3: We got all kinds of good those kinds of good stuff.

1007
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 3: We'll have to get to some for Week one, some

1008
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 3: game picks.

1009
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: We're actually gonna have to pick our Fantasy football lineup,

1010
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: our DFS line up tomorrow because I will not be

1011
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 2: here on Friday. You'll be sitting in. Rob King will

1012
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: be sitting in for me. I got some some personal

1013
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: stuff to take care of on Friday, so we'll do that.

1014
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 2: But lots of stuff that happen in tomorrow show. But

1015
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 2: that's going to do it for today's, for my partner

1016
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here on site keeping us

1017
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: on the air. I'm Dale Lelly. We thank you for

1018
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: listening to this edition of the Drive on the Steelers

1019
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:44,720
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