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Speaker 2: Ten days until the Super Bowl. It's seven years ago today.
Speaker 2: The Kansas City Chiefs decided to trade Alex Smith to Washington.
Speaker 3: So we're at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: We had gotten word that Alex Smith was probably going
Speaker 2: to be traded. He was with us on the show
Speaker 2: and we couldn't get anything out of him, but he
Speaker 2: knew that he didn't he didn't really know where he
Speaker 2: was going. He knew that he was going to be
Speaker 2: traded from Kansas City. And then we get done with
Speaker 2: our show in Minneapolis. Two hours later, Alex Smith is
Speaker 2: traded to Washington for a defensive back and a third
Speaker 2: round pick. He had gone nine and six as a
Speaker 2: starter in Kansas City in twenty seventeen. In the previous
Speaker 2: four seasons, he had won eleven games three times, and
Speaker 2: his stats when he was traded from Kansas City twenty seventeen,
Speaker 2: he threw for fourth yards, He had twenty six touchdowns,
Speaker 2: five interceptions. Those are good numbers. But they knew what
Speaker 2: they had with Patrick Mahomes. They traded up to get
Speaker 2: Mahomes and Alex Smith was dead man walking. This happened
Speaker 2: with San Francisco with Colin Kaepernick. Jim Harbaugh made that move,
Speaker 2: but Andy Reid made a move the Kansas City Chiefs
Speaker 2: made a move that changed NFL history and paved the
Speaker 2: way for AFC Title Games, Super Bowls, and maybe what
Speaker 2: will turn out to be the greatest quarterback in history.
Speaker 2: That was seven years ago today, And I remember talking
Speaker 2: to Paulie, I go, how do I get that information
Speaker 2: out of him? Because he's smart enough to know that
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask him about it. Does he really
Speaker 2: know what's he You don't want to ruin the deal.
Speaker 2: And he was going to get a lot of money.
Speaker 2: I think he got a four year extension around ninety million,
Speaker 2: seventy one million, guaranteed he was going to do well.
Speaker 2: Now we know that he got injured with Washington, but
Speaker 2: he had a good career. He had good numbers with
Speaker 2: San Francisco, good numbers with Kansas City, and then his
Speaker 2: career cut short with the injury in Washington. But seven
Speaker 2: years ago, taking a chance and taking a chance eight
Speaker 2: years ago, when you think about what they did in
Speaker 2: the draft and the fact that the New Orleans Saints
Speaker 2: and Sean Payton said this, they were taking Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2: How would NFL history look if the Saints had taken him?
Speaker 2: What would that have meant for Drew Brees and Bree's
Speaker 2: getting older. Sean Payton sees what he sees in Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2: I got my heir apparent right here. Well, Alex Smith
Speaker 2: wasn't old, but he saw Andy Reid saw something that
Speaker 2: maybe others didn't Sean Payton did. Now, there are a
Speaker 2: lot of coaches it's like with Russell Wilson, Yeah, we
Speaker 2: were going to take him. Well, you could have the
Speaker 2: first round or the second round, even in the third round,
Speaker 2: you could have taken him. Everybody after the fact, but
Speaker 2: Sean Payton said, hey, we wanted him. Kansas City was
Speaker 2: going to go get him. And it was during that
Speaker 2: week an NFL scout source of mine said you should
Speaker 2: get Patrick Mahomes on he's moving up the draft board
Speaker 2: and I said to Fritzie, hey, see if we can
Speaker 2: get Mahomes. Now we couldn't, but you know, I was
Speaker 2: given a heads up that he was moving up. Didn't
Speaker 2: know where, but he was moving up. And then he
Speaker 2: lands in Kansas City and You're like, why would they
Speaker 2: go get him. Alex Smith's a good quarterback. And then
Speaker 2: we realized soon after that when he threw for fifty touchdowns.
Speaker 2: Who was the quarterback prior to Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: was Alex Smith. And even the draft profile, well, he
Speaker 2: was going to be, you know, the second coming of
Speaker 2: Brett farm He's a gunslinger those games.
Speaker 3: Nobody played defense in the.
Speaker 2: Big Twelve, which is true, but I don't think people
Speaker 2: saw the intelligence of Patrick Mahomes. I think they just
Speaker 2: saw that he kind of ran around. You know, Texas
Speaker 2: Tech unless you really love football, you're not going to
Speaker 2: find Texas Tech games unless they're playing against somebody. The
Speaker 2: first time I saw him, it was Oklahoma State, and
Speaker 2: you know they always shootouts. It's like forty two forty,
Speaker 2: and I kept thinking, well, it's another Texas Tech quarterback.
Speaker 2: They always have big numbers, you know, Mike Leach always
Speaker 2: has that offense. They're going to get you know, thirty
Speaker 2: five forty points. They'll lead the nation in passing, but
Speaker 2: then they don't do anything in the NFL. Mahomes was different. Yeah, Paully.
Speaker 4: The draft profile, we've talked about this from NFL dot com. Inconsistent, gunslinger, reckless,
Speaker 4: not an athlete, more of a Scrambler. They critique his
Speaker 4: throwing motion. It was the word project is used on
Speaker 4: a couple different websites. But the Chiefs they didn't start
Speaker 4: a week four. They didn't have to start a week
Speaker 4: for that. I don't know how much that helped his
Speaker 4: rookie year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have Alex Smith, and I think Mahomes has
Speaker 2: talked about you know, Brady's talked about this.
Speaker 3: He wasn't ready to start.
Speaker 2: He needed to sit and watch and kind of understand
Speaker 2: how the game moves at what pace. And Mahomes has
Speaker 2: talked about that that he got to learn under Alex Smith.
Speaker 2: Now I don't think Alex Smith knew that. Hey, I'm
Speaker 2: going to give you all the secrets and then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, wait a minute, what are we doing?
Speaker 2: Do you have Alex Smith at the super Bowl? So
Speaker 2: this is seven years ago this morning that we had
Speaker 2: Alex Smith on and I'm trying to get him to
Speaker 2: tell me where he's going to be traded.
Speaker 3: Where are you going to be playing next year?
Speaker 1: Question?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you're not going to get much right now.
Speaker 3: Sorry to disappoint.
Speaker 5: Come on, I got absolutely nothing for you that's gonna
Speaker 5: do you know in your head you just can't tell me.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 5: I mean I wish I knew. I wish I listened.
Speaker 5: I got a year under contract there in Kansas City.
Speaker 7: I mean, that's.
Speaker 5: Uh, I was in control of this thing, right, I
Speaker 5: mean I wish I was the one that got to
Speaker 5: be able to to do this.
Speaker 7: That's just not the reality.
Speaker 3: But if you were in control, what would you do?
Speaker 6: What do you you know?
Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, Like I said, I mean, you're you're not
Speaker 5: gonna like this answer at all. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 5: I love, I love where I'm at. Right, I felt
Speaker 5: like we underachieved. I felt we as offensively last year.
Speaker 5: Did some you know, awesome things you know, so, but
Speaker 5: who knows? Right, I've been playing long enough. I've been
Speaker 5: through this before the trade deal, so I'm not not
Speaker 5: naive to it. You know, this is a crazy business.
Speaker 5: A lot of crazy stuff can happen.
Speaker 2: And then he was traded to Washington for Kendall Fuller
Speaker 2: in a third round draft pick. But he got ninety
Speaker 2: four million dollar deal, seventy one million dollars guaranteed if
Speaker 2: you go through the vowels. AEI, oh, that's what it
Speaker 2: sounded like, Alex Smith. So PAULI asked me the question,
Speaker 2: I'll be Alex Smith.
Speaker 3: What would you do if you were in control?
Speaker 2: I'll oh sometimes, why, Yeah, he knew something. He had
Speaker 2: to know something, because those deals don't get done that quickly.
Speaker 2: It's like when free agency starts. It's like twelve oh one.
Speaker 2: They got a deal done in a minute. No tampering here.
Speaker 2: But Alex.
Speaker 3: He had to move on, and.
Speaker 2: He'll be the trivial pursuit question or answer of who
Speaker 2: was the quarterback prior to Patrick Mahomes? ALRIGHTY eight seven
Speaker 2: to seven three DP show Dylan, what's the poll question today?
Speaker 3: From the first hour?
Speaker 8: All right, Dan, we're gonna go with without knowing what
Speaker 8: would happen in the future, would you've traded Alex Smith
Speaker 8: after the twenty seventeen season, which was statistically his best
Speaker 8: season touchdowns, yards, td I T ratio.
Speaker 2: Now, not everybody agreed that you got to move on
Speaker 2: from Alex Smith because we weren't quite sure what they
Speaker 2: had with Patrick Mahomes. So to be fair to oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: everybody knew, they didn't not everybody knew leading up to
Speaker 2: the draft. If everybody knew what Patrick Mahomes was going
Speaker 2: to be, Kansas City wouldn't have been the only team
Speaker 2: trading up to get him. He would have been taken
Speaker 2: well before Mitch Trubisky. Yeah, what woud his career been
Speaker 2: like if he played for the Bears. There's certain organizations.
Speaker 3: Where you go.
Speaker 2: If that guy had gone to that organization, would he
Speaker 2: have been a great like Tom Brady? If he went
Speaker 2: to Cleveland? Would he have been Tom Brady? No, if
Speaker 2: Mahomes doesn't go to Kansas City, he's not one of
Speaker 2: the great quarterbacks of all time.
Speaker 3: But in the system. By the way, I know that there's.
Speaker 2: A documentary or there's a three part series about you know,
Speaker 2: it's Brady versus Belichick. Chris mad Dog Russo was talking
Speaker 2: about this that he's hosting this. Are we going to
Speaker 2: do that to Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes? Why do
Speaker 2: we do it for Brady and Belichick? Now I know
Speaker 2: there's no conflict. It'd be like if Mahomes left and
Speaker 2: let's say he went to the Jets and won a
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, would we then have this argument of I
Speaker 2: don't know who's better Patrick, who was more responsible? Mahomes
Speaker 2: or Andy Reid? But we do that with Brady and
Speaker 2: Belichick although they've done a pretty good job of complimenting
Speaker 2: each other. I'll go back to the Super Bowl when
Speaker 2: the Patriots lost to the Eagles, and I interviewed Brady
Speaker 2: prior to that, was during super Bowl week, and I said,
Speaker 2: do you think you'll ever sit down with Bill and reminisce?
Speaker 2: And he looked at me like, you got to be
Speaker 2: that's the dumbest question.
Speaker 3: He goes, no.
Speaker 2: But now they're sitting down and reminiscing and you know,
Speaker 2: verbal bouquets and everything is good. In fact, Bill Belichick
Speaker 2: was on the Jim Gray podcast, the Let's Go Podcast
Speaker 2: and talking about Tom Brady and the Super Bowl Trophy.
Speaker 9: Players win games. You can't win games without good players.
Speaker 9: I don't care who the coach is, it's impossible. You
Speaker 9: can't win without good players. I mean, it's you know,
Speaker 9: it's Brady, it's McGinnis, it's Rabel, it's Bruski, it's Corey Dillon,
Speaker 9: it's Randy Moss, Troy Brown, Lawyer Malloy, ty Law, Rodney Harrison.
Speaker 9: Those are guys that won the games.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 9: I didn't make any tackles, I didn't make any kicks.
Speaker 9: That was Vintary that made that kick in four inches
Speaker 9: of snow. You gotta have good players. They don't name
Speaker 9: it the Star Trophy. It's named little Bardi Trophy.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's a name it the Brady Trophy. He wants
Speaker 3: seven of them.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's a throwaway line by Bill Well. Good follow
Speaker 2: up by Jim Gray. They don't call it the bart
Speaker 2: Star Trophy. They call it the Lombardi Trophy. We'll revisit
Speaker 2: this coming up a little bit because I got a
Speaker 2: few more thoughts about this and naming the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: Trophy after Tom Brady. I have some other options there.
Speaker 2: So what other poll questions are we thinking about? First
Speaker 2: downur Dylan Well going off that.
Speaker 8: Then we can go with should the Lombardi Trophy renamed
Speaker 8: the Brady Trophy?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 3: Or now let me save that. Okay, I'm gonna save that.
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Speaker 2: a little bit. Also when we had the NBA commissioner
Speaker 2: Adam Silver on yesterday, and I said, hey, give me
Speaker 2: some wild suggestions and we'll bring back just the comment
Speaker 2: that he talked about of making these games forty minute,
Speaker 2: not forty eight minute games, ten minute quarters. And I
Speaker 2: don't think he realized it was going to explode, and
Speaker 2: I did try to warn him that it was going
Speaker 2: to take off, and maybe he did know, maybe he
Speaker 2: did want to gauge the reaction to something like this,
Speaker 2: and I was surprised at some of the reaction.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about that.
Speaker 2: And there were certain news organizations that kept it in context,
Speaker 2: which I appreciate, and there are other ones that have
Speaker 2: misleading headlines in there, because this was just wild things
Speaker 2: that you're thinking about, maybe two free throws if you
Speaker 2: get fouled on a three point shot. And then he
Speaker 2: dropped the bomb where he said, why don't we make
Speaker 2: it universal. This is what they do in the Olympics,
Speaker 2: this is what they do in Europe. Maybe we'll have
Speaker 2: forty minute games, ten minute quarters and not forty eight.
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Speaker 2: Rich Michael Vick, Norfolk State head football coach, four time
Speaker 2: Pro Bowler, number one pick in the draft. Why why
Speaker 2: can't take one Barkley win the MVP? Why won't he
Speaker 2: win the MVP.
Speaker 7: I'm not saying he won't.
Speaker 12: I don't He's not gonna win a possible, but it's
Speaker 12: possible he could win it. I mean, if he win
Speaker 12: the Super Bowl, just save you the Philadelphia Eagles happen
Speaker 12: to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 7: You're looking at a guy who's been, you.
Speaker 12: Know, one of the greatest set the position and in many,
Speaker 12: many years in football. So it's very possible that he
Speaker 12: can win the MVP. It's not out of the questions
Speaker 12: because of the running back, the whole narratives. I don't
Speaker 12: know where it comes from, but Saquan is that's the
Speaker 12: thing that only about. If I'm saying it's correctly, five
Speaker 12: to ten running backs have done in the history of
Speaker 12: the National Football League.
Speaker 7: So let's not forget that.
Speaker 12: Yeah, so that's an elite group, that's like the top echelon.
Speaker 2: But if he's not gonna win it because the voting
Speaker 2: has already done if he's not gonna win it this
Speaker 2: year to rush for two thousand yards twice as many
Speaker 2: as he had with the Giants the previous year. He
Speaker 2: changed the Eagles offense. He's a home run hitter. It's
Speaker 2: a great story. The Giants didn't want him. I know
Speaker 2: Lamar had a wonderful year, but I don't think a
Speaker 2: running back is going to win an MVP in my lifetime.
Speaker 7: Mike, I mean, you can you can never say never.
Speaker 12: I say that, I mean and I think about it
Speaker 12: because I'm kind of with you. I mean, as I
Speaker 12: think over the years. But it shouldn't just be an
Speaker 12: award that grants it to a running back, I mean
Speaker 12: a quarterback. It should be an opportunity for a running
Speaker 12: back or a receiver or defensive player. It should not
Speaker 12: be true, be biased at all. And so you know,
Speaker 12: I wouldn't be surprised if Lamar won it or a
Speaker 12: job just want it because those guys they truly deserve
Speaker 12: it as well.
Speaker 7: But there's only one trophy to go around.
Speaker 12: But I mean, Saquana, if he wins it, if he
Speaker 12: wins the Super Bowl, I think, you know.
Speaker 7: I think already it'd already be decided by then.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm sorry because the honors is the night before,
Speaker 12: so let I got the sequence.
Speaker 7: Out of water.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's a nice consolation price, Mike. Yeah, if
Speaker 2: he doesn't win the regular season MVP but ends up
Speaker 2: winning this, yeah.
Speaker 12: I really feel like it should be decided once the
Speaker 12: season is over. You know, when once a team is
Speaker 12: you know, granted that super Bowl trophy, then you could say.
Speaker 7: It might be a guy on the on the super
Speaker 7: Bowl winning team. It might not, but I.
Speaker 12: Think that takes precedent because what if that guy is
Speaker 12: having a super Bowl type caliber season, you know, m
Speaker 12: v P caliber season, and then he goes into the
Speaker 12: super Bowl and win it. You know, why wouldn't he
Speaker 12: he bet that guy, especially if we put up numbers.
Speaker 12: But who knows, Man, it is not for me to
Speaker 12: decide on.
Speaker 2: He's Michael Vick, Norfolk State headed for coach. When did this.
Speaker 3: Idea start in your mind to be a head coach?
Speaker 12: Well, it started many many years ago, in like twenty
Speaker 12: seventeen when I was doing an internship in Kansas City
Speaker 12: with Andy Reid when he first drafted Patrick. Actually the
Speaker 12: first year he got Patrick, Alex Smith was there and
Speaker 12: so I was there, you know, just learning you know,
Speaker 12: to be a coach and what it what it truly
Speaker 12: meant or the work that had to be put in.
Speaker 7: I seen behind the scenes, I learned a lot.
Speaker 12: I just happened to get a call from Fox Sports
Speaker 12: at the time, and so, you know, having a conversation
Speaker 12: with Andy, we felt like that was probably the best,
Speaker 12: the best route to go in my life because you know, uh,
Speaker 12: becoming a coach and becoming a head coach, you gotta
Speaker 12: it's a lot that you have to, you know, go through.
Speaker 12: You know, you gotta climb the rings you got to
Speaker 12: you gotta earn it. And uh, you know, it was
Speaker 12: always the thought of mine to put myself in a
Speaker 12: position to try to earn a head coach and spot
Speaker 12: in college football at some point.
Speaker 7: And I know I had to do the hard work.
Speaker 12: But you know, working you know for five sports is
Speaker 12: you know, it's helped me grow as a football player
Speaker 12: as well, you know, from watching enough film and watching
Speaker 12: enough games and saying in tune to knowing like how
Speaker 12: to compartmentalize it and put it all together and put
Speaker 12: the team together. And so the opportunity with the blessing,
Speaker 12: I'm appreciative of it. I had already conditioned my mind
Speaker 12: to be ready when the head coach. The opportunity came
Speaker 12: one day, if it ever came, and you know, I
Speaker 12: got it, and so I felt like it was best
Speaker 12: to take advantage of it and looking forward to doing
Speaker 12: some great things.
Speaker 2: Seven years ago today, Alex Smith got traded. Yeah, what
Speaker 2: did Andy? I mean, he had to see something in
Speaker 2: my homes that you trade away Alex Smith, who had
Speaker 2: some really good seasons. In fact, that season, I think
Speaker 2: he had twenty six twenty seven touchdowns, five interceptions. They
Speaker 2: won eleven games three times while he was there. But
Speaker 2: what do you think, what do you think Andy saw
Speaker 2: with Mahomes that maybe you saw that you know, there's
Speaker 2: why we have Patrick Mahomes now.
Speaker 12: It was I mean, I can't say exactly what Andy
Speaker 12: was thinking, but he may have looked at the situation.
Speaker 12: You know, probably spend about you know, four or five
Speaker 12: years with Alex, and you know, you.
Speaker 7: Draft his young quarterback to Bill for the future.
Speaker 12: And I think in Patrick's last game in the rookie season,
Speaker 12: I think he had an amazing game against Denver if
Speaker 12: I'm not mistaken, And it was just you see, probably
Speaker 12: seeing things and I know I saw things. Andy probably
Speaker 12: seen some things that you know, it was just kind
Speaker 12: of like unprecedented the quarterback position, and it's kind of unhearled,
Speaker 12: and and so you like, I know, I can deal
Speaker 12: with this. You know, might as well get it going
Speaker 12: now and try to just expert like the process of
Speaker 12: getting to a championship.
Speaker 7: Alex still had some good years.
Speaker 12: There was some teams out there who could use them.
Speaker 7: At the time, and it wasn't like he ended up
Speaker 7: in a bad situation.
Speaker 12: So, uh, you know, Alex wasn't coming off of super
Speaker 12: Bowl caliber season or he didn't win the Super Bowl,
Speaker 12: so it kind of made sense to do it at
Speaker 12: the time.
Speaker 7: But you know, I can guarantee this that Alex and
Speaker 7: Andy still.
Speaker 12: Can have a great relationship to the day, and Alex
Speaker 12: appreciate everything Andy has done for him. So it was
Speaker 12: just Patrick's time, and you can see that it was
Speaker 12: the right decision that was made.
Speaker 2: Are you going to try to schedule a game with
Speaker 2: Dion and Colorado to play it?
Speaker 7: Yeah, Colorado.
Speaker 12: Yeah it's a possibility, but you know what, it would
Speaker 12: have to make all the sense in the world.
Speaker 7: Uh, you know, it's funny.
Speaker 12: I spoke to dion about you know those type of
Speaker 12: games and scheduling, you know, big time games for the school.
Speaker 7: You just want to be cautious when you when you're
Speaker 7: doing that.
Speaker 12: You know, you don't want to put the kids in
Speaker 12: a bad situation.
Speaker 7: You know, obviously it helps the school out.
Speaker 12: And we'll pick and choose our spots and in terms
Speaker 12: of what's the right team to play before I put
Speaker 12: him in a situation where uh, you know it's a
Speaker 12: detriment to them. And when we do we finally schedule
Speaker 12: that game, we'll be ready to play that game and
Speaker 12: be competitive in that game.
Speaker 2: If you guys had a forty yard dash. Now you
Speaker 2: and Dan, Now he's got the foot problem, so you
Speaker 2: could probably take him, right.
Speaker 12: I mean I would say probably before that, Yeah, I
Speaker 12: probably can take him.
Speaker 3: Now, what about me before the foot?
Speaker 12: Before I was about to say before then, I still
Speaker 12: wild get it EDGs the Prime because because Prime ran
Speaker 12: a fourd to on too many that could I think
Speaker 12: he might have ran a four one.
Speaker 3: I think it was a four to one and change.
Speaker 7: He ran a full one. Yeah he used to. Yeah
Speaker 7: he could run. So I would get an Edg to
Speaker 7: the goat without a.
Speaker 2: Doubt, all right, before I let you go, what would
Speaker 2: be a successful season for you this year?
Speaker 7: A successful season for us? I think it's.
Speaker 12: You know, to double the amount of wins that we
Speaker 12: had last year. You know, as I watched the film
Speaker 12: and I watched those young men, they competed hard last year,
Speaker 12: they put forth a lot of effort, but we all
Speaker 12: acknowledged collectively that it was it's a little bit more
Speaker 12: that could have been done. And so you know, you know,
Speaker 12: those guys they round there, they talking, you know, championship,
Speaker 12: and that's the way they're supposed to think. And that's
Speaker 12: the way they're supposed to talk. But you can talk
Speaker 12: about it, you gotta be about it. And I think
Speaker 12: for us right now, it starts with our strength and
Speaker 12: conditioning program, tackling the off season, making sure that we
Speaker 12: put it in the hard work and we get to
Speaker 12: know one another, build that camaraderie, come out of the
Speaker 12: spring feeling good about going into the fall, and then
Speaker 12: start putting the right pieces together. So you know, we know,
Speaker 12: you know, what we have in the building at the program.
Speaker 12: We just want to continue to strengthen that. So you know,
Speaker 12: if we can get you know, we.
Speaker 7: Can double our wins. You know, from last year. I mean,
Speaker 7: I think that's successful season.
Speaker 3: Will you be the best quarterback in the building? Still? Yes?
Speaker 12: Hey, And so somebody you know shows me on all
Speaker 12: accounts that they're ready to play that level and I know,
Speaker 12: real real soon then you know we can we can
Speaker 12: pass the torch around.
Speaker 3: I say that, good to talk to you. Good luck.
Speaker 3: That's Michael Vick.
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Speaker 6: This is all walk into huh.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes you did, Yes, you did? Okay.
Speaker 2: Commissioner comes on yesterday and I don't know if he
Speaker 2: meant for it to be a bombshell, but let it.
Speaker 2: You know, he's thinking about what if we went from
Speaker 2: forty eight to forty minutes in games? They do this
Speaker 2: in Europe, they do this in the Olympics. And I
Speaker 2: think the immediate reaction was what are we doing here?
Speaker 2: And I said, commissioners have to think this way. I
Speaker 2: want your opinion on if the games were forty minutes
Speaker 2: as opposed to forty eight, how would that affect you.
Speaker 13: I think players the number one thing the matter players
Speaker 13: of all, you know, status as minutes. They want to
Speaker 13: be out there. So I'm not sure forty minutes will
Speaker 13: go over well because they'll probably play a little bit
Speaker 13: less they do and if they get less numbers, they
Speaker 13: probably get less stats, and I'm not sure that would
Speaker 13: go over well. So I'm not sure exactly you know
Speaker 13: what the benefit is. If we're trying to save time
Speaker 13: on their bodies, then we can do that in practice,
Speaker 13: we can load manage there, but I'm not sure what
Speaker 13: the benefit.
Speaker 6: I'm sure he's always from.
Speaker 2: But there's gonna be the same number of games, they'll
Speaker 2: just be fewer minutes, so maybe there's not load management.
Speaker 2: And I think the commissioner said, if you take eight
Speaker 2: minutes off a game, that's going to add up to
Speaker 2: fifteen games of minutes, so there's wear and tear on
Speaker 2: your body. If you're still getting paid for playing eighty
Speaker 2: two games, then I get the stats that those would
Speaker 2: have to be modified if there's incentives in your contract
Speaker 2: that you have to reach certain numbers. But I can
Speaker 2: see positives with it, not as many negatives.
Speaker 13: It's some positives for sure. Like you said, it's the
Speaker 13: Olympics experience. It's just guys are gonna have to not
Speaker 13: play harder because a lot of them do play hard,
Speaker 13: but they're gonna have to maximize those minutes because, like
Speaker 13: I said, that's the number one thing bad in the stats,
Speaker 13: because that's likely or not. They kind of lead to
Speaker 13: whatever else comes with contracts, et cetera, et cetera. Not
Speaker 13: for the superstars, for other guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Jamal, we want more minutes. We want you
Speaker 2: guys playing in more games. Like that's what the fan wants.
Speaker 2: They don't want loud mission.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I think if you can ensure that, you know,
Speaker 2: fans don't know who's playing when they go to games now,
Speaker 2: and it'll be like Lakers versus Golden State. They can't
Speaker 2: say it's Steph against Lebron because they're not sure if
Speaker 2: somebody's going to be playing.
Speaker 13: And the worst part about that, Dan is that kid
Speaker 13: who got tickets for Christmas three muths to later, right,
Speaker 13: and his favorite player or favorite two players aren't playing.
Speaker 13: It's like his Christmas is ruined three months later, right,
Speaker 13: Like he's really like, man, I didn't see this person.
Speaker 13: And that's the part that really stucks.
Speaker 2: All right, So the three point shot, everybody, it feels
Speaker 2: like there's too many of them. Do you change anything?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make you, commissioner, what do you do with
Speaker 2: the three point shot?
Speaker 13: What if you had a limit of three point shot
Speaker 13: you could shoot the game for per team, then you
Speaker 13: wouldn't just have any of their everybody shooting them.
Speaker 6: I'm not sure it's the three point shots. It's the problem.
Speaker 6: It's the problem that we're letting anybody shoot.
Speaker 3: In Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 13: Like when we came up, it was obviously Reggie and
Speaker 13: Ray and they were going to shoot more threes because
Speaker 13: they were the best three point shooters. But and Steph
Speaker 13: should shoot however many you can get up. But that's
Speaker 13: not for everybody. And the funny thing about that, Dan
Speaker 13: is when it's the most important time the playoffs, they're like,
Speaker 13: just move a scoreboard, mid range, take whatever you can get, layup,
Speaker 13: move that scoreboard because the time that's most important. Every
Speaker 13: point matters. So I think it's gotten to a point
Speaker 13: where we want to see a three point shot.
Speaker 6: We just want to see it by the right people.
Speaker 6: We don't need everybody shooting three.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I brought this an up a month ago.
Speaker 2: I said, what if you capped it at twenty five
Speaker 2: threes per team per night?
Speaker 6: What do I think every matter? Right?
Speaker 13: I even thought, I'm like, what if we took the
Speaker 13: three point line out where it's like, okay, we're just
Speaker 13: playing twos and they're like, oh, we gotta really scheme,
Speaker 13: we gotta we gotta value each possession. Obviously you can't
Speaker 13: do that, and we love the three point shot. It's
Speaker 13: the home running baseball. But if you can cap them,
Speaker 13: I think that could be a start.
Speaker 2: Do you believe in the Cavaliers or the Thunder? If
Speaker 2: I said you had to pick one or the other
Speaker 2: to make it to the finals.
Speaker 13: I would pick the Thunder, okay, and the reason being
Speaker 13: is they have a bona fide. I love the Cavaliers
Speaker 13: young team, I love Donovan Mitchell, Darius Carland Mobley, but
Speaker 13: SGA and I believe that the Thunder have a star
Speaker 13: on the sideline as well. I think coach Daguna was
Speaker 13: unbelievable last year come to the playoffs. We talked to
Speaker 13: so many different coaches and he was one of the
Speaker 13: ones who stood out with how his mind works, what
Speaker 13: he's thinking. He has total command of the game. They're
Speaker 13: lock and key. They're almost like a college team playing
Speaker 13: in the pros with how together they are and how yeah,
Speaker 13: how they move together. Look at all their interviews. I
Speaker 13: know some people talk about them, but every time they're
Speaker 13: seven or eight guys there and they run in a pack.
Speaker 2: They're young, they're all under twenty five. I mean, they
Speaker 2: are kind of a college team.
Speaker 13: They are with so many more picks coming in the future,
Speaker 13: right like they're loaded. They always do a great job
Speaker 13: of development. Will pick the thunder because SGA is the
Speaker 13: MVP type like player.
Speaker 2: How would you what would you do to help the
Speaker 2: development of when Benyama?
Speaker 6: It's a great question.
Speaker 13: I would say for him, there's certain things he just
Speaker 13: has to go through, but I want him to One
Speaker 13: thing I would say is I probably would get him
Speaker 13: closer to the basket, gets to the free throw line.
Speaker 13: I think for every three he takes, if he you know,
Speaker 13: bounce that out will get one free throw. So if
Speaker 13: he shoots ten threes, get ten free throws, and I
Speaker 13: think that will always keep his scoring, you know balance,
Speaker 13: It'll always be bounced even if he shoots three for
Speaker 13: ten or three for you know, eleven from the three
Speaker 13: point line, if he has those eleven free throws to
Speaker 13: counteract that, I think he'll always have that sustainability. But
Speaker 13: he he's a joy like, he is such a treat
Speaker 13: he's we see the unicorn talent, but the everyday working
Speaker 13: with role player qualities is what's going to really shoot him.
Speaker 6: Off the charge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if like Darren Fox, I think would
Speaker 2: be really better. Like he needs a true, really good
Speaker 2: point guard. Chris Paul is not going to do it.
Speaker 2: Cassel is developing, but maybe Dearon Fox to the Spurs.
Speaker 13: I like the fact that if that's true, that deer
Speaker 13: Fox wants to come because he's going to get players
Speaker 13: that want to come play with him, right, and he's
Speaker 13: that type of unselfish superstar.
Speaker 6: Obviously the Spurs the gold.
Speaker 13: Standard, but he's a transcending type player and getting a
Speaker 13: player like deer Fox is closer in age a little
Speaker 13: bit to.
Speaker 6: Go with that group. After you know this run, I
Speaker 6: think would be good.
Speaker 2: What would you tell them, DP, Well, I thought he
Speaker 2: was lost in his rookie year because he was just
Speaker 2: out of place on the court. Offensively. He just didn't
Speaker 2: put himself in position. He was getting bodied a little bit.
Speaker 2: He needs to establish these are my comfort areas, get
Speaker 2: to those spots or getting the ball in those spots.
Speaker 2: I'm okay with them shooting threes because I like his shot,
Speaker 2: and I think he's taking nine threes this year.
Speaker 3: He was five last year.
Speaker 2: But I like that versatility of you think I'm going
Speaker 2: to be on the perimeter, I'm going inside. I think
Speaker 2: I develop a little jump hook there. I would I
Speaker 2: would get that. I'd almost study Kevin McHale and just
Speaker 2: look at all the ways that he would score. That
Speaker 2: makes it you're even more valuable when you go to
Speaker 2: the perimeter or vice versa. Now you've got to pick
Speaker 2: your poison with him. I think he's going to be
Speaker 2: the best player in the game in three years. I
Speaker 2: think I think he'll be an MVP in three years.
Speaker 2: I think that much of him. I just think that
Speaker 2: he sort of was lost a little bit on the
Speaker 2: floor last year.
Speaker 13: And it's amazing because I think I agree with you,
Speaker 13: I think he'll be the best player. But he's checking
Speaker 13: every box, Like I guarantee you what you're saying will
Speaker 13: be part of his talent going forward. Like he's always
Speaker 13: trying to get better, He's always trying to learn, and
Speaker 13: he hasn't even to me, hasn't even got his NBA meanness.
Speaker 6: Shit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 13: Like he hasn't even got to like I'm here. This
Speaker 13: is all just off the national talent and.
Speaker 6: Having those guys there.
Speaker 13: When he gets his mean as you know twenty two,
Speaker 13: twenty three, twenty four, he's, like I know him the
Speaker 13: best player period. It's gonna really be scary then because
Speaker 13: he will be on his way to being one of
Speaker 13: the greatest.
Speaker 2: Even how often would you notice who's in the stands
Speaker 2: when you were playing in Los Angeles or New York,
Speaker 2: anybody famous?
Speaker 13: It was funny when when I noticed it, but when
Speaker 13: the really famous people that I loved were there, I
Speaker 13: wouldn't make eye contact until I got rolled because I'd
Speaker 13: be so nervous that they were there. So I'll make
Speaker 13: sure I had ten points first, the first ten for
Speaker 13: me in the NBA AB with the hardest to get
Speaker 13: the next ten.
Speaker 6: Reason but the first t in DP were.
Speaker 13: So hard, so I didn't make eye contact until I
Speaker 13: hit my double figure.
Speaker 7: Bok.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Jessica Albo's there, and you're not even gonna
Speaker 2: look at her for your first ten points.
Speaker 6: I'm not looking at out. No, I'm not looking at Album.
Speaker 6: I'm not looking at Album. I'm not looking at jay Z.
Speaker 13: I'm not looking at Sandler, none of these guys that
Speaker 13: I really admire.
Speaker 2: Now, did you ever look at Beyond like you're not
Speaker 2: allowed to look at Beyonce?
Speaker 3: If jay Z's there, well, jay Z.
Speaker 13: And our friends and so no, No, I'm definitely not
Speaker 13: looking at Beyonce for sure.
Speaker 3: Oh well there, yeah, yeah, I go, I go introduce myself.
Speaker 6: All right. Well, you have any movies, by the way,
Speaker 6: so you're a star there. Yeah, I ask you that.
Speaker 6: What were your two favorite movies you appeared in?
Speaker 2: Uh, The Longest Yard was pretty good. I arrest Sailor
Speaker 2: at the beginning, I'm a police officer, and then uh,
Speaker 2: just go with it. I'm a nightclub owner in Hawaii
Speaker 2: with Jennifer Aniston and Nicole Kidman on stage with me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you have a hoop with Sailor?
Speaker 3: Yes, I have what's his game. Blay, he carries the ball.
Speaker 6: Don't I don't get a carry thing? They said out
Speaker 6: care for twenty years.
Speaker 2: Don't I have a problem with it? Though he carries
Speaker 2: it constantly. He's got an ugly shot. It does go in,
Speaker 2: he does. He's he's a good passer and and he's
Speaker 2: kind of a u physical He's a like a Baron
Speaker 2: Davis built guy like he You're going to bang around
Speaker 2: a little bit in there, and what's your game?
Speaker 3: Just don't leave me open.
Speaker 13: Oh, the guy who doesn't want the three point shots
Speaker 13: are is saying, don't leave you open for the shot?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's too easy. They you know
Speaker 2: the three is easy. That's why I'd like to get
Speaker 2: rid of it. I'm kind of a Pasha Stoyakovic. You
Speaker 2: shoot that quick, I shoot with the same results.
Speaker 6: Well, if Sandler can get around, can I get joined?
Speaker 6: Can I get by stand next to the dodge?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Sandler would love to play hoops with you?
Speaker 6: You too, You got to be there too.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just you know, I got to the point where
Speaker 2: I got tired of scoring Jamal, Oh my god, you
Speaker 2: know that, you know that feeling like I like to go.
Speaker 2: I like to go to the carnival where the baskets
Speaker 2: are smaller. Just so, yeah, you gotta shoot.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of a Mark Price kind of guy. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: go off.
Speaker 2: The dribble quick maybe, uh Dale ellis kind of guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go seeatle Hey, congrats on the NBC gig.
Speaker 6: For you for I know obviously you know the landscape.
Speaker 6: Any advice from me.
Speaker 7: There, no, you just it.
Speaker 2: Just have fun with it. I mean that's all it is.
Speaker 2: You're you're you're seeing the sport, you're calling the sport.
Speaker 2: You're giving people things that they may give them something
Speaker 2: that they don't see. A lot of times on TV,
Speaker 2: we tell you what you're seeing, tell me what I'm
Speaker 2: not seeing, show me little things. And I think that's
Speaker 2: really important is TV. We get to see it. There's
Speaker 2: something that was in that shot, in that move in
Speaker 2: that play that I didn't see.
Speaker 3: And that's where you can tell me something.
Speaker 6: That's my wheelhouse. I like it, Thank you.
Speaker 3: That is Jamal Crawford