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Speaker 1: Late Kick Extra podcast. It's Tuesday morning. It's November twenty

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Speaker 1: third year of Our Lord, twenty twenty one, Thanksgiving, a

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Speaker 1: mere forty eight hours away. I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: Late Cack Live tonight, I'm going home to Harris County,

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Speaker 1: days before we screwed up to Atlanta on Thursday to

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Speaker 1: do Thursday's Late Kick Live from Mercedes Benz Stadium, the

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Speaker 1: site of the SEC Championship game, which we will then

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Speaker 1: in one the over hit. That's my itinerary. Come up.

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Speaker 1: How is yours looking? I can tell you this morning

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Speaker 1: our show looks like this. It's loaded. I went on

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Speaker 1: Twitter last night, I said, give me the questions. We

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Speaker 1: this week? We're going everywhere from Charleston, West Virginia to

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Speaker 1: you know what, Let's go to a state we don't

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Speaker 1: And that is, by the way, not Nevada that Colorado touches.

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Speaker 1: the first question. I'm going in no particular order here,

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Speaker 1: Andre said, how tough is it really to coach in

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Speaker 1: the SEC? What about the expectations versus college football in general? Andrea,

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Speaker 1: I think it is probably more tough today than it

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Speaker 1: is a little bit different. Here's what I mean by that.

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Speaker 1: There's always been per capita, a lot higher passion level

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying is if you go to the secondary

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Speaker 1: So it's just deeper. It's wider, and it's deeper. But

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Speaker 1: They're giving him over nine million dollars a year. That's wonderful.

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Speaker 1: a ping pong tournament, which I think is the more

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00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 1: responsible decision, and I think we got more good Instagram

428
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Speaker 1: material out of that. That is the new age, It's

429
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Speaker 1: the new media. But with Harbaugh, I was going to

430
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Speaker 1: fly in on Thanksgiving Day if I needed to to

431
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Speaker 1: get a one on one with him. But unfortunately, because

432
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Speaker 1: it's Thanksgiving week and it is a pretty big game,

433
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Speaker 1: we don't have time to get the one on ones.

434
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Speaker 1: So I'm going to Michigan on Friday, just like a

435
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Speaker 1: normal person. But I was going to go up there

436
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 1: because I've never outside of press conferences, I have never

437
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Speaker 1: been in the same room as Jim Harbaugh and I've

438
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,159
Speaker 1: never certainly had one on one time with him, and

439
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 1: I was just going to try and crack him. I

440
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 1: was going to bring a feather with me and try

441
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 1: and tickle him. I was going to tell him some jokes.

442
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 1: I was going to give him a recipe or too,

443
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Speaker 1: just anything to get some life. But alas it'll have

444
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Speaker 1: to wait. So, speaking of last weekend. As you know,

445
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 1: the Tuesday Pod has become famous slash infamous. Never really

446
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 1: been sure which one is appropriate to use when for

447
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 1: telling road stories and telling travel stories from the previous week.

448
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Speaker 1: This past week we went to Michigan State versus Ohio State,

449
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,639
Speaker 1: and I don't know what really happened to the Renaissance

450
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 1: tour this week. I was thinking about it, and sometimes

451
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Speaker 1: if you go to a blowout game and you have

452
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Speaker 1: your choice like we do, of going to any game

453
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Speaker 1: in the country you want to, you have regret because

454
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 1: you always had these other games that you chose from,

455
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 1: and inevitably you look at your phone and those games

456
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 1: are locked up in a tight contest midway through the

457
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Speaker 1: second half and you're watching a blowout. I have had

458
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Speaker 1: that happen before. This past week was not like that.

459
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Speaker 1: So we came down to two finalists. When I was

460
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Speaker 1: choosing where we were going to go for this past weekend,

461
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Speaker 1: we were either going to go to Columbus for Michigan

462
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Speaker 1: State Ohio State, which we did, or we were going

463
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Speaker 1: to go to Salt Lake City for Oregon At Utah. Guys,

464
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Speaker 1: the combined final scores was ninety four to fourteen. We

465
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Speaker 1: had no prayer. We had no shot, and there was

466
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Speaker 1: this distant third choice, which was Montana State versus Montana.

467
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Speaker 1: Even that was a blowout. So we had been on

468
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Speaker 1: a heater all year. Man, we've seen some close games.

469
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Speaker 1: In fact, we have not seen a single blowout. I

470
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Speaker 1: don't think the closest thing we've seen to a blowout

471
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Speaker 1: was last week, and that was with Baylor over Oklahoma,

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Speaker 1: and that included a field storming. So it's not your

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Speaker 1: typical blowout. It's an upset. It's an upset and the

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Speaker 1: underdog actually ends up winning by double digits. So that

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Speaker 1: experience in Columbus this past Saturday, that was an anomaly.

476
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Speaker 1: And hopefully it doesn't get duplicated either way. I don't

477
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Speaker 1: care who wins this Saturday, but either way Ohio State Michigan.

478
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Speaker 1: Hopefully that point spread is right. Hopefully that's a close game.

479
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Speaker 1: So anyway, I go up there. On Friday, I drove

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Speaker 1: up to Tallmidge, Ohio. I landed in Columbus, drove up

481
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Speaker 1: to Tallmadge, Ohio. Got to see a buddy, Matt Wentz.

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Speaker 1: He is a meteorologist in Cleveland. He and I worked

483
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Speaker 1: together down in Columbus. I mean we were in the

484
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Speaker 1: trenches in Columbus, Georgia. There's a lot of Columbuses flying

485
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Speaker 1: around Columbus, GA. That's where I'm from. That's where he

486
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Speaker 1: and I met. We were working at the same station,

487
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Speaker 1: and he is the guy I've told you this story before.

488
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Speaker 1: He's the guy who first introduced me to the concept

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Speaker 1: of Facebook Live. He is, as I said, a meteorologist.

490
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Speaker 1: And it was like twenty fourteen or whenever it would

491
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Speaker 1: have been, and there was a weather system happening somewhere.

492
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Speaker 1: Cannot remember what the storm was. But when I walked

493
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Speaker 1: in one day and he was watching a forecast, and

494
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Speaker 1: I thought he had just a normal web page pulled up,

495
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Speaker 1: I noticed the interface was Facebook. I said, what are

496
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Speaker 1: you watching? He said, well, this is new. It's Facebook Live.

497
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 1: Like now they can stream, and at the time, only

498
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Speaker 1: accredited accounts could stream. Now obviously everyone can do it,

499
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: but back then it was brand new technology. And since then,

500
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Speaker 1: obviously you've got YouTube live as well, Twitch and whatnot.

501
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: But back then Periscope had become a big deal, and

502
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: so Facebook said, nah, negative, we're going to do that too.

503
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Speaker 1: So they were doing it. Well. That was the day

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Speaker 1: that it dawned on me. And I've told the story.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell the whole story again, but

506
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 1: it dawned on me that was the key, that was

507
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Speaker 1: the ticket. If that was about to be the new

508
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: digital path, then all of a sudden, overhead and distribution

509
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: were no longer barriers standing between someone like me and

510
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: creating a big college football show anyway, So that happened

511
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 1: back then. Well then he moves on to Cleveland and

512
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: I move here, so hadn't seen him in a while.

513
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Speaker 1: Got to go up there and just smoke him in

514
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Speaker 1: ping pong. I mean, there's really no other way to

515
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Speaker 1: put it. He and I had some epic ping pong battles.

516
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Speaker 1: If this is the third time I'm going to say this,

517
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Speaker 1: I know it gets annoying. It annoys me too, and

518
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Speaker 1: I'm going to say it again. I've told this story before.

519
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell it again. But man, those

520
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Speaker 1: Friday nights when all we had was a six o'clock

521
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Speaker 1: newscast and an eleven o'clock newscast, and we were the

522
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Speaker 1: number three station in the market at the time, which

523
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: meant we were out of the purview. Management was a

524
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: little more loose. Management goes home sales department checks out

525
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: a little early on Friday, and we had nothing but

526
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Speaker 1: time between the six and the eleven, especially in the

527
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Speaker 1: summer before football season has started, and we would take

528
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Speaker 1: that news desk and it was on rollers, and we

529
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: would roll the news desk out of the studio and

530
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Speaker 1: we would have full on parties in the studio. We

531
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Speaker 1: would bring a ping pong table in, we would crank music,

532
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Speaker 1: we would open the garage door where they loaded in

533
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Speaker 1: and out all the freight, and we would invite friends over.

534
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Speaker 1: We would invite people from the neighborhood, and we would

535
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Speaker 1: just have giant parties, kind of like a fraternity house

536
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Speaker 1: in the news studio. Between the six o'clock and the

537
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Speaker 1: eleven o'clock broadcast. We would also throw shirts over all

538
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Speaker 1: the security cameras and we would send one lookout into

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Speaker 1: Master Control where they had the monitors, and we would

540
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Speaker 1: distract I'm not making this up. We would distract the

541
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Speaker 1: Master Control operator while everybody else threw shirts over the

542
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Speaker 1: security cameras that could see what was happening. And yeah,

543
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: that's what we were doing on Fridays. So, yeah, it

544
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: was good to see him, good to see the fam there.

545
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: Headed back down, got to Ohio Stadium very early those

546
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Speaker 1: noon kickoffs. You know, I love him. I get there

547
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: about three and a half hours before kickoff, parked right

548
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,479
Speaker 1: next to the stadium. But see, here was the problem.

549
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: The problem was not getting in there. I was terrified

550
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Speaker 1: the whole day that I was not going to be

551
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Speaker 1: able to make my flight. Think about it, twelve o'clock

552
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: noon eastern kickoff, and I've got a six to thirty

553
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: flight out of Columbus, Ohio. And so you think, oh,

554
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: that's plenty of time. Well is it? Because you figured

555
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 1: the game's going to be three and a half hour's minimum.

556
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: Then we've got to do postgame live hits on CBS

557
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: Sports HQ, and that is at least thirty minutes after

558
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: the game ends. So you're already at four o'clock. You

559
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: see how this starts getting really really tight. So we

560
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: do about a ten minute live hit, and this is

561
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Speaker 1: all best case scenario. So four point fifteen, you're finally unhooked.

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Speaker 1: You're unwired, you're done with your live hit, and if

563
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 1: you run right out of there, you're probably getting to

564
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: your car at four thirty. And at that point, with

565
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Speaker 1: over one hundred thousand people spilling out, and there's no

566
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,719
Speaker 1: interstate right next to this place like there was it Baylor.

567
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: You're at the mercy of the traffic. But then I

568
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: guess what looked like a curse turned into a blessing.

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00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 1: When it's forty nine to nothing at halftime, a funny

570
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: thing happens. The crowd starts thinning out really really early.

571
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Speaker 1: And so by the time I left that place, I

572
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: probably walked out of there about what I just said

573
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: about four fifteen. I was in TSA and threw TSA

574
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: and into the terminal by five o'clock, and I returned

575
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: to rental car in the process. So that's got to

576
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Speaker 1: be a record. So I got out of there no problem,

577
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: in a large part due to the blowout in nature

578
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: of the game. But I met a lot of you,

579
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: as we have every week. That's a broken record. Now

580
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: I met Luke who's in the Ohio State Marching band.

581
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: I meet a ton of band members and a lot

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00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: of players on teams. Several coaches too, but a lot

583
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: of band members and a lot of players on teams.

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Speaker 1: They normally find me on the field some way and

585
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: they say, hey, you know, even though maybe I can't

586
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: comment publicly all the time, love your podcast. I love

587
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: your show, so I know you guys are listening. Thank you,

588
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: always trying to acknowledge you. Thank you. Luke though gave

589
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: me an actual bucknup from BUCKYE Grove up there, and

590
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,479
Speaker 1: that was an unexpected present that I appreciated. But guys,

591
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: here's what I really want to tell you. For the

592
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: second week in a row, when I got off that

593
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: elevator and I went into that press box for the

594
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Speaker 1: first time, the smell of breakfast engulfed me. And I

595
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: know I told you Baylor last week was the best

596
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: I've had all year, and I'm not telling you that

597
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: this weekend topped it, but I'm also telling you it

598
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: didn't finish second place. They had everything, Oh they had everything,

599
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: everything full sausage and bacon arrangement, multiple kinds of scrambled eggs.

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00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: This is also the first time that I've ever seen

601
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: an actual restaurant served in the press box. And I've

602
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: never had those things from McDonald's before, the McCafe things,

603
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, kind of the iced coffee stuff. But I

604
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: know several of my friends are addicted to them. Well

605
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: I know now why you are addicted to them, because

606
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: the specially ingredient and appears to be cocaine. I drank

607
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: four of those things loaded with sugar. Terrible for me,

608
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: no doubt, but I couldn't stop, and they kept making them,

609
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: and so I felt it was my obligation. I didn't

610
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 1: want to make them feel bad, So it's my obligation.

611
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: They had an entire a ssortment of every kind of

612
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: drink you would ever imagine for McDonald's so Ohio State

613
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: press Box brought to you by McDonald's. But man, they

614
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: had some good food and they also had hash browns.

615
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: You know, second week in a row, I've had hash

616
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: browns and pig skin. I mean, what more could you want? Oh?

617
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: One more thing? Forgot about this. So I stayed at

618
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,959
Speaker 1: a Hilton. I'm so fancy, I know. I stayed at

619
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Speaker 1: Hilton in Columbus. First time ever I've had a gem

620
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: in my room and it really didn't even cost anything extra.

621
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: I thought it was a typo personally. When I was

622
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: booking and I insist on booking my own travel, they'll

623
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: do it for me, but they'll also, you know, put

624
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: me on terrible flights. So I booked my own travel.

625
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: I booked this room and the Hilton just gives me

626
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: an option. Hey, sir, would you like a pull up

627
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: bar and dumbbell set and medicine balls in your room? Absolutely?

628
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:58,959
Speaker 1: And they said, Okay, here you go. It's called our

629
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: fitness room. Take it. It's yours. Normally I'm used to

630
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: there being a gym at the hotel. It's just normally

631
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: its own room. Well, I had the gym in the room.

632
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: It was great. So I did Friday Night Lines, which

633
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: is the super secret. Management doesn't know about it, so

634
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: don't tell them. Shush emoji gambling chat that I do

635
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: at about midnight Eastern on Friday night. Got to be

636
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: following on the Instagram page to get it at late

637
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: kick Josh, we are killing it. I mean, we are

638
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: closing as strong as anyone can possibly close with our

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Speaker 1: So it was a good trip. It wasn't the best

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Speaker 1: game to see, but it was a good trip. It

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Speaker 1: was my first time ever to Ohio State going for

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Speaker 1: my first time ever to Michigan this Saturday, and cannot

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Speaker 1: wait for that. I mean, that's a huge rivalry. I

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Speaker 1: always grew up with the rivalries in the South, and

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Speaker 1: I knew of the rival results where as a kid,

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Speaker 1: but I've never gotten to experience a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: So now one after one, you know, with the Renaissance

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Speaker 1: we're getting to check those off, and I soak it up,

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Speaker 1: as you can tell, because I have stories every week

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Speaker 1: when I come back, we soak all that up. It's

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Speaker 1: really fun to talk about. It gives us a lot

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Speaker 1: So I'm pretty sure I'll dive back into this for

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Speaker 1: know I got you with that one zero percent chance

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Speaker 1: with some playoff talk because tonight is a big night.

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Speaker 1: We're going to find out that order. It's not so

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Speaker 1: the top four, top ten, but it is the order

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Speaker 1: curious as to whether Ohio State jumps Alabama and with

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Speaker 1: that in mind. Here's a question from Lance. Lance said,

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Speaker 1: let's say Oklahoma and Oklahoma State split. First, that is

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Speaker 1: that's flawed, But let me get back to it. So,

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Speaker 1: O you and Oklahoma State split, Michigan loses to Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: would it be eleven to one Notre Dame or ten

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Speaker 1: and two Obama. Well, here's the problem with this. Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: if they lose Saturday to Oklahoma State, they don't get

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Speaker 1: a rematch. It would be Baylor in Oklahoma State, I

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Speaker 1: believe is how that works. So for the sake of argument,

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Speaker 1: let's say OU does win Saturday and then they lose

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Speaker 1: to Oklahoma State in the Big twelve title game. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that absolutely could happen. So who would we have. We

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Speaker 1: would have a one loss Oklahoma State conference champ. We

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Speaker 1: would have Michigan loses to Ohio State. We would have

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Speaker 1: an Ohio State eleven and one twelve and one I

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Speaker 1: guess Big Ten champ. So both of those I think

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Speaker 1: would be in. Ohio State's in Oklahoma State I believe

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Speaker 1: would be in, but there's some question about that. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: the question for Lance came down to a ten and

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Speaker 1: two Alabama versus an eleven and one Notre Dame. I'm

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Speaker 1: putting Obama in all day. You don't have that conference

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Speaker 1: championship that's supposed to matter, and it's a critical metric.

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame's strength of record wouldn't even be close to Alabama's.

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Speaker 1: I would put Bama in. In fact, I haven't even

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Speaker 1: looked at a scenario where I think it's going to

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Speaker 1: come down to an Alabama versus Notre Dame for the

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Speaker 1: fourth spot, only because I don't think it's a question,

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Speaker 1: believe it or not, with the way the metrics work.

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Speaker 1: Alabama going into that Saturday against Georgia, if they were

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Speaker 1: to lose by let's say three points, their resume would

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Speaker 1: actually be boosted more relative to Notre Dame because they

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Speaker 1: played that number one team and played them very competitively.

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Speaker 1: I firmly believe that. I even believe in that because

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Speaker 1: there is one of the big three lies, which is

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Speaker 1: a win is a win, a loss as a loss. No,

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Speaker 1: it's not. If I lose to the number one team

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Speaker 1: by three points and you sit at home and do nothing,

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Speaker 1: I had a more productive day than you. I'll always

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Speaker 1: believe that. But having said that, I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: what it's going to come down to if there's a

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Speaker 1: ten and two Bama that is being measured against someone.

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Speaker 1: I think it would be a ten and two Bama

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Speaker 1: against an undefeated Cincinnati or maybe like a twelve to

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Speaker 1: one conference champ Oklahoma State. And I've had some argument

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Speaker 1: the sense Oklahoma State would be in I get the

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Speaker 1: since Cincinnati's got a good shot at this, and it's

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Speaker 1: because you've never had the two loss non conference champ.

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Speaker 1: You've had the one law non conference champion. It's been Bama.

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Speaker 1: I think Ohio State got in one year like this,

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Speaker 1: but you know what those were. Those were dominant looking teams,

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Speaker 1: looking teams. Bama has not looked dominant at any point

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have that conference championship in their back pocket and

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Speaker 1: they're sitting there with two losses. I just I think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna matter to that committee. I think it's gonna matter.

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Speaker 1: And so I still believe, even though I firmly believe

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Speaker 1: other folks are gonna tell you different, I do believe

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Speaker 1: that an undefeated Cincinnati or maybe a one lost Oklahoma State,

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Speaker 1: they're going to be able to get in. But as

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Speaker 1: I say that, notice how I'm very hesitant. Number one

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Speaker 1: where your mind could go, just like mine. If Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: another shaky win and you would look at it and

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Speaker 1: you'd say, wow, they did not look impressive, but hey,

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Speaker 1: they won. They're still undefeated. Now they're going to go

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Speaker 1: let's say they beat Houston by a point, so they're

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Speaker 1: just by the skin of their teeth. They're winning these

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Speaker 1: games that you're sure Alabama would also win, but hey,

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Speaker 1: Let's say Alabama goes to Auburn and wins convincingly Saturday,

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Speaker 1: and then let's say they go to Atlanta and they're

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Speaker 1: by three. How would you feel about the quality of

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Speaker 1: the teams at that point, how would you view them?

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Speaker 1: The answer is, we don't know, because you actually have

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Speaker 1: And that's where I have a lot of hesitation in

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Speaker 1: painting these scenarios because we don't know. Like how many

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Speaker 1: people say, well, it doesn't matter if Ohio State wins

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Speaker 1: out at this point because they've already got this crippling

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Speaker 1: to make it in Well, then they beat Wisconsin fifty

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Speaker 1: nine to nothing in the Big Ten title game, and

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Speaker 1: it flipped over the span of sixty men, and it's

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Speaker 1: a football. It flipped to where people all of a

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Speaker 1: they're playing exactly. That's why you wait and you watch

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Speaker 1: how the games play out. I'm going to talk about

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Speaker 1: this a lot more tonight. Obviously, we'll have a fresh

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm not going to encourage you. I'm going

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Speaker 1: yesterday morning. We got over two thousand and five star reviews,

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Speaker 1: which obviously means the drive to three thousand begins. But

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Speaker 1: I got to stop and I got to tell you

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Speaker 1: thank you for that, because it's not easy to get there.

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Speaker 1: You know, you would think, I mean, we have millions

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Speaker 1: better time than the present to go give us a

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Speaker 1: five star review. I will appreciate it. Thanks giving present

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Speaker 1: Subscribing to the YouTube channel, all of these things cost

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Speaker 1: If you've done a little cursory scan around the internet lately,

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Speaker 1: and bring you college football content that cannot manage to

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Speaker 1: stay free. They cannot manage to even stay at their

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Speaker 1: we have not charged you a dime. And that's the

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Speaker 1: have And every now and then when I ask you

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Speaker 1: to do something, you guys always do it. You guys

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Speaker 1: always come through. That is called community, and that's why

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Speaker 1: we're able to do something here at an alarmingly fast

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Speaker 1: growth rate that is the envy of the rest of

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Speaker 1: We're doing it no problem. When I tell you I

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Speaker 1: No I really, I really appreciate it. Because a lot

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Speaker 1: I know how it works. That's why I thank you

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Speaker 1: every time I can. Hey, it's Thanksgiving week, so I

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Speaker 1: hope you guys have a safe trip wherever you're going,

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Speaker 1: hope that's fun for you. To make sure you're checking

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Speaker 1: out Late Kick Live tonight, because even though it's Thanksgiving week,

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Speaker 1: this is how college football always works. The holiday season

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Speaker 1: just got to work through it, and we will. We

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Speaker 1: see you tonight. I'm sending this to producer Jordan to

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Speaker 1: cut up right now, and until next time, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for listening. God bless and have a great

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