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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we love a little messy fun.

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Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Talk.

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Speaker 1: Sport studios in London talking back through a monitor to

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Speaker 1: my friend Jordan rod Rieg who's in the Chris Westling

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Speaker 1: podcast studio. We are gonna have some messy fun today.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about who we think is the

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Speaker 1: most messy fun team of the year. We're going to

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Speaker 1: do some news, we're going to preview TNF, and we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk to one of our favorite players in

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Speaker 1: the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Like we're not going to.

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Speaker 1: Jordan is going to Kaleis Campbell is coming up on

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Speaker 1: the show. How is everything on the home front?

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Speaker 3: Jordan, you know your chair was super high for whatever reason.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting in it right now. Head to lower it

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Speaker 3: a little bit otherwise we're cooking over here.

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Speaker 4: Greg.

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Speaker 1: I am really excited and I like having a little

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Speaker 1: extra pressure, so I doing like anything live is fun,

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Speaker 1: you can't mess it up. In this case, our listeners

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Speaker 1: will know that Kaleis Campbell is arriving shortly, and so

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Speaker 1: that means it's a challenge to the two of us. Jordan,

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Speaker 1: we can't honk too much on this NFL Daily. We

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Speaker 1: have to get to the Kaleis Campbell portion or else

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Speaker 1: they'll just like boot me out of the chair. They

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Speaker 1: actually will revoke my work visa here in the UK.

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Speaker 1: So why don't we do some news. But what we're

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Speaker 1: going to do is we're going to put a timer

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Speaker 1: on it, a mental timer. Eight minutes or less, we

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Speaker 1: will do this news. And unfortunately we got the news

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Speaker 1: that Lamar Jackson is going to be out most likely

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Speaker 1: this week, according to The Baltimore Sun. Now we're taping

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Speaker 1: this on Tuesday afternoon. As of this point, NFL Network

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Speaker 1: and ESPN, I find it interesting, have not reported this,

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Speaker 1: but it is a trustworthy local source. The Baltimore Sun

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Speaker 1: believes that it's unlikely Lamar Jackson plays this week against

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Speaker 1: the Texan, that his hamstring injury could be a two

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Speaker 1: to three week injury. They have the Texans in the

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Speaker 1: Rams before their bye week, will get quickly to all

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Speaker 1: the other Ravens injuries and there is a lot, but

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Speaker 1: this Lamar Jackson one is different, Jordan, and it just

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Speaker 1: makes you wonder where this Raven season is going.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there were no updates earlier in the week

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Speaker 3: only an ominous sign, but a sign that's the nature

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Speaker 3: of the injury itself. Hamstrings are so fickle and even

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Speaker 3: that it is. I mean, I am concerned about this,

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Speaker 3: about this down the stretch.

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Speaker 4: For Lamar, I.

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Speaker 1: Can see what you're doing. You feel that timer in

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Speaker 1: your head. We should just do this every week. So look,

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Speaker 1: I'm just joking. The rest of the Raven situation is

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Speaker 1: such a nightmare. So since we've you know, last talked

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Speaker 1: that's really concerning for a great young player who signed

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Speaker 2: You kind of look at this bye week.

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Speaker 1: It's three weeks right now until after the buye they're

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Speaker 2: We'll see what happens with this Steeler season.

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Speaker 1: But you look at the rest of the division, no

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Speaker 4: You don't want to do that.

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Speaker 1: the most unhappy four and zero team in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Uh take it away, Nick, he.

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Speaker 1: This has been bubbling since the end of last year.

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Speaker 1: Jordan AJ Brown sent out a tweet on Sunday night

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Speaker 2: It's a scripture.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts on a team that's like unhappy even though

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Speaker 4: Don't make a scene post on social media.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's just so you knew this was gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: This is an Eagles offense that is somehow like putting

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Speaker 2: We'll get to all that, but I agree.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a bunch of players who are Pro

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Speaker 3: And I will use this to broaden out into the

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Speaker 1: Yes, there aren't many Jordans with ther or ou Are.

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Speaker 1: Part of the things that that are messy about them,

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Speaker 3: I noticed Brian Thomas Junior had more outbreaking routes this week,

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Speaker 3: I know you're so ready. You were down just a

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Speaker 3: and now we're sort of like, can Trevor Lawrence play

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Speaker 1: He has always been a quarterback, and this is tricky

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Speaker 2: He's the guru right.

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Speaker 1: I think if you just isolated Trevor's play and the

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Speaker 1: A little worse this year, which seems crazy, and maybe

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it starts upfront and I really like, you

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Speaker 3: know what we're seeing from ETN. We're seeing some pop

442
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Speaker 3: from basial toot and tooton hive stand up, and I

443
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Speaker 3: feel like this is interesting because they're getting three point

444
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Speaker 3: two to one yards before contact per carry last week

445
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Speaker 3: against a banged up San Francisco forty nine ers defensive front,

446
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 3: but a tough one still, and they've been blocking really

447
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Speaker 3: well for Trevor Lawrence too. No sacks last week, and

448
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 3: they're first in sach Grate in terms of protecting him

449
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Speaker 3: on a personnap basis.

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Speaker 4: And that's the entire season.

451
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Speaker 3: So it's like, schematically, it's all coming together starting up front,

452
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Speaker 3: and to your point, once the little pieces and the

453
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Speaker 3: details and all the minutia, the timing and all of

454
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Speaker 3: these things catch up, they've already got this fundamentally sound

455
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Speaker 3: run game that's really popping so far this season, and

456
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Speaker 3: they're getting blocking for it, which is which I think

457
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Speaker 3: is one of the most important things. The blueprint is there,

458
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Speaker 3: it's like literally about taking the next step forward within it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they've had two of the most dominant pass blocking

460
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Speaker 1: games of the year and I was granted it was

461
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Speaker 1: against Carolina and against the Nick Bosa less nick forty

462
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Speaker 1: nine Ers, but he was not touched literally not a

463
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Speaker 1: quarterback hit on Sunday, which is crazy.

464
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Speaker 2: And they're playing well in the running game.

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Speaker 1: I think this is where Liam Cohen's Jaguars really remind

466
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Speaker 1: me the most of the Liam Cohen Bucks. The cohesion

467
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Speaker 1: nature from day one is the secret. Sauce Travis etn

468
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Speaker 1: like is becoming the guy. He's leading the NFL in

469
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Speaker 1: your carry right now. He's hitting the big plays, he's

470
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Speaker 1: more patient than he's been and the blocking, it's They're

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Speaker 1: greater than the sum of their parts right now in

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Speaker 1: terms of Dvoa Jordan. Their twentieth in terms of passing,

473
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Speaker 1: but they are second right now in the NFL in

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Speaker 1: terms of their running game.

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Speaker 2: And I know you're just.

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Speaker 1: A football dorc at heart, and like a cohesive running

477
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Speaker 1: game like this, there is nothing more fun to watch.

478
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Speaker 1: So wrap us up with a little just like love

479
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Speaker 1: for what they are doing on the ground and why

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited to watch this team the rest of

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Speaker 1: the year.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's giving everybody confidence and I want

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Speaker 3: to call back. You know, James Gladstone was on our

484
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Speaker 3: show in the spring and his main thing was making

485
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Speaker 3: sure they're building up front and continuing some positive pieces

486
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Speaker 3: that were already there and continuing to build through the

487
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Speaker 3: run game.

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Speaker 4: And he said, getting the way, stay.

489
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Speaker 3: In the way in terms of blocking up you know

490
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Speaker 3: your assignments and all of those things.

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Speaker 4: And I just think that you can see.

492
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Speaker 3: It in some of the mannerisms and some of the

493
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Speaker 3: even the extracurriculars after the game. This team is feeling

494
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Speaker 3: itself a little bit, I think rightfully so. But it's

495
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Speaker 3: this confidence that comes with you know your foundation is solid,

496
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Speaker 3: and that comes from the run game. Like I know

497
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Speaker 3: this is a little taky, but I don't know that

498
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Speaker 3: Liam Cohen is out there talking smack to.

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Speaker 4: Robert Salah after the game. If they got.

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Speaker 3: Pushed around on the line of scrimmage all game, even

501
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Speaker 3: if they won, it's winning at the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 3: Lillam cohenes a former quarterback with a sort of a

503
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Speaker 3: receiver's mind, clearly like you have to, you really have

504
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Speaker 3: to see this entire The way they're winning up front

505
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Speaker 3: on the on offense, but also on defense, I think

506
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Speaker 3: is just giving them a lot of all over confidence

507
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 3: and a little bit of vibe over there.

508
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Speaker 2: Making them a little chesty.

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Speaker 1: You're right, I didn't really think about the connections here, because, yes,

510
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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers became who they were by being

511
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Speaker 1: the biggest, toughest team, and they were pushed around by

512
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars, who were somewhat built by Trent balk who

513
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Speaker 1: had the same idea back when he it was with

514
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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. And yes, now the Jaguars aren't perfect.

515
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Speaker 4: I know they're messy.

516
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: They're messy that they'll have some stretch.

517
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Speaker 1: But man, I love watching etn in two and run.

518
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Speaker 1: I love watching this team. And yeah, back when we

519
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Speaker 1: had the Round the NFL podcast, we would have a

520
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: team of the podcast every year. I'm not saying the

521
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Speaker 1: Jaguars are this team, but we just wanted to give

522
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Speaker 1: them a little shine. Felt like they deserved a little

523
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Speaker 1: extra They don't get enough national spotlight. You know who

524
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Speaker 1: does get a lot of national spotlight, The Rams and

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. We will talk TNF preview after

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Speaker 1: this break, Dull, we are back on NFL Daily quick

527
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Speaker 1: TNF preview before we get to your interview with Kalayas Campbell,

528
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Speaker 1: which I'm really looking forward to listening to. The Ras

529
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Speaker 1: are catching the forty nine ers, Jordan potentially at the

530
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Speaker 1: right time. Obviously Nick Bosa out for the season. Rams

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Speaker 1: are favored by five and a half in this game.

532
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Speaker 1: Rock Purdy, you missed the fake practices early in the week,

533
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Speaker 1: but he did finish out that game, so I feel

534
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Speaker 1: better about him than Ricky Pearsall, who he just might

535
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Speaker 1: not know about going into the game. Same thing with

536
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Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings. Pearsall has a PCL injury. Kyle Shanan doesn't

537
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Speaker 1: believe it's going to be long term. Juwan Jennings didn't

538
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Speaker 1: quite finish last week's game with a shoulder injury. Do

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Speaker 1: you think the forty nine Ers, in a world where

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Speaker 1: they have these guys, let's say at least the receivers

541
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Speaker 1: for the most part, have enough even if they are healthy,

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Speaker 1: to win this game in Los Angeles, where for most

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Speaker 1: of Sean mcvay's tenure they've had a lot of success.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, DeMarcus Robinson revenge game a little bit here, right,

545
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Speaker 3: because DeMarcus Robins in his back for the forty nine Ers,

546
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Speaker 3: and he will be a factor.

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Speaker 4: I'll have to be right.

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Speaker 3: I am still skeptical after especially after watching some of

549
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Speaker 3: the contours and the spaces and the voids that the

550
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 3: Colts were able to find offensively, I am concerned still

551
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Speaker 3: about their ability to defend a pass catching tight end.

552
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Speaker 3: Tongus has been you know, Brock Purty's like kind of

553
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Speaker 3: go to guy, especially in that red area with George

554
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Speaker 3: Kittle banged up, and I do I do expect. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's not reported, but I do expect Brock Purty to

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Speaker 3: play just because he did finish. He looked like he

557
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Speaker 3: was in pain, but he did finish that game. And

558
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Speaker 3: this is absolutely a huge game for the forty nine

559
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 3: Ers coming in to Sofi Stadium in mass numbers, and

560
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Speaker 3: so I do think that this secondary for the Rams

561
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Speaker 3: is what still remains my biggest question. And I don't

562
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Speaker 3: know if the forty nine Ers have the the you know,

563
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Speaker 3: I don't know that they're going to outmatch them in

564
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Speaker 3: terms of like body for body here, but in terms

565
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Speaker 3: of scheming guys open, I still have very much my

566
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Speaker 3: flag up, my guard rails up thinking about what this

567
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Speaker 3: secondary is sort of culpable to with you Kyle Shanahan

568
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Speaker 3: and some of the ways that he can like sort

569
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Speaker 3: of circle certain defensive players and then just spam play

570
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Speaker 3: calls right at those players.

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Speaker 4: That's a concern still for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, last year, even with a really down and forty

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Speaker 1: nine Ers team in the second time around, it was

574
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Speaker 1: a total mash unit. They played those games to where

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Speaker 1: it was a final possession game. The Rams won both

576
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Speaker 1: of them, but they were both close. Obviously, you really

577
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Speaker 1: need pearsol and or Jennings out there to help with

578
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Speaker 1: the offense. I'm a little concerned though about their running game,

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Speaker 1: Like this forty nine Ers team doesn't make sense to me.

580
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: If Christian McCaffrey is dead last in the NFL and

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Speaker 1: complete in rush yards over expected huge negative. The offensive

582
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Speaker 1: line actually pass protected pretty well last week against Jacksonville,

583
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Speaker 1: I thought, but the run blocking hasn't been great, and

584
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Speaker 1: they're not that injured in terms of their offensive line,

585
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Speaker 1: they're just not playing that well and McCaffrey's not as

586
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Speaker 1: explosive he leads the NFL and touches. I think about

587
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Speaker 1: some of those old forty nine Ers seams, Jordan, and

588
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Speaker 1: I think, like, man, they could use a Raheem Moster,

589
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They could just use a

590
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Speaker 1: little bit of more juice in terms of their running game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they went out and they got Brian Robinson

592
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 3: right to try to see if maybe they could spell

593
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Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey a little bit. You're not seeing a lot

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Speaker 3: of that happening so far. And this is especially like

595
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Speaker 3: we mentioned earlier in the show about how the Jaguars

596
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Speaker 3: defense was hitting. I mean John Jennings part of yeah,

597
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Speaker 3: it's a shoulder or whatever it is, but also he

598
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: was crunched between two defenders, took a kidney shot that

599
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 3: set him on his back, flat on his back for

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Speaker 3: a little while during that game on the sideline as

601
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Speaker 3: trainers were working on him. A little bit like these

602
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Speaker 3: this is a banged up team that is really really

603
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 3: loading up the workload early on for Christian McCaffrey, a

604
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Speaker 3: player who we know his hint his injury history, and

605
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 3: coming into this game on a short week. And yes,

606
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 3: the Rams have been banged up to their interior offensive

607
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: line is still a little shaky. Justin Dietitsch played well

608
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Speaker 3: at left guard. But if you're looking at the Rams defense,

609
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Speaker 3: which is pretty healthy overall in their run game, I

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Speaker 3: can't imagine you're not trying to use at least a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a change up if you're Kyle Shanahan,

612
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Speaker 3: to try to get some power going a little bit

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Speaker 3: and get Christian McCaffrey working in the passing game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree with that, And I know Robinson's

615
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: not like a big play guy either, but if nothing else,

616
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Speaker 1: you know, use use him on the goal line, use

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Speaker 1: him to just take some load off of Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 1: I really love the way Matthew Stafford played last week

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Speaker 1: in general, the way he's adjusted to this offensive line,

620
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Speaker 1: giving up a lot of quick pressure. He has the

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Speaker 1: lowest time to throw when he's under pressure of any

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the league, so he is making quick decisions.

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Speaker 1: He has the lowest pressure to sack ratio of his

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Speaker 1: entire career. But I don't think he's bailing Like you know,

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Speaker 1: as you watch on YouTube, you see some of the

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Speaker 1: dimes he had last week. I don't think he's bailing

627
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Speaker 1: out of plays early. He's just playing at a high

628
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: level and playing smart. And Puka Nakua right now, Jordan

629
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Speaker 1: is literally on pace for like one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 1: catches or so season.

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Speaker 2: Like remember when we were like one in one A well,

632
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Speaker 2: not so much.

633
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Speaker 1: DeVante has seventeen catches, And I think DeVante's presence is

634
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Speaker 1: actually opening things up a little bit for Puca versus

635
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Speaker 1: the other way around.

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Speaker 2: Puka is just absolutely in his prime right now.

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Speaker 4: It's so funny to me.

638
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's like pretty unguardable right now, right and

639
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 3: it is, and he's doing everything, and he's sort of

640
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 3: like getting him into that eleven and a half personnel

641
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Speaker 3: because he's playing tight end sometimes within the blocking structure

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Speaker 3: on run plays, and he's doing all these things, and

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Speaker 3: you're right, it is interesting. It's like, at what point

644
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 3: are and I think he's got plenty of respector on

645
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Speaker 3: the league, but it's like they're still almost like leveraging

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Speaker 3: things toward DeVante.

647
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Speaker 4: Adams, and it's like Puka is destroying these defenses.

648
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Speaker 3: Nobody has had a solid coverage plan for him yet

649
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: and he's making every throw or making every catch. I'm

650
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Speaker 3: watching those Matthew Stafford throws. And our friend Nate Tice

651
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: always does a Monday Matthew Stafford cut ups every week

652
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Speaker 3: and like, I will never quit him.

653
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Speaker 4: I won't. I won't do it. Rams.

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Speaker 3: Our listeners can get as mad at me as they

655
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Speaker 3: want for talking too much about Matthew Stafford, but I

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Speaker 3: will never quit him because he makes the sickest throws

657
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 3: you will ever see.

658
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 4: And I am never out with that guy, never out.

659
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: Well, I tell you what he is. He's I'm gonna

660
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: while him over here. I'm buying him a one way

661
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: ticket to quarterback Island. Barring an injury, you know, crossed

662
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: your fingers.

663
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: He is.

664
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: He is playing like a top five quarterback right now.

665
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: And it's the biggest reason why I like the Rams

666
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: in this game. I don't necessarily like five and a half,

667
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: but I don't have to worry about that, at least

668
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: for this purpose. Look, they don't have a pass rush

669
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: right now. The forty nine Ers without Nick Bosa, have

670
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: Bryce Huff and that's about it. Michael Williams is a

671
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: good player, he's not like a peer pass rusher. So

672
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: Stafford ultimately against a quarterback brock pretty who looked like

673
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: he was injured last week not play particularly well, was

674
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: pretty inaccurate. It's just too much of a mismatch in

675
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: a game that I think the Rams are going to score.

676
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if the forty nine ers can keep up.

677
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: I will take the Rams.

678
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 3: If anything is going to swing this game, in my opinion,

679
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 3: toward the forty nine Ers, it's going to be plays

680
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 3: that are made by these linebackers, Fred Warner and d Winters,

681
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: who are all over the field, and because they cannot

682
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 3: rush the passer, I do expect d Winters the way

683
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 3: Robert Sala. We've seen earlier in the season using him,

684
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 3: you know, in the blitz, creating pressure, stimulating like he's

685
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 3: going to pressure, and then dropping and really covering well

686
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: as well, flying all over the field. I think that

687
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 3: if this is going to swing, that's going to be

688
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 3: where it does. But I just think the Rams A

689
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 3: are healthier and b body for body, pound for pound

690
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 3: at almost every position on the roster, are just as

691
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 3: nearly a complete team as it gets in the NFL.

692
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 4: Right now, I'm picking the Rams.

693
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: This is what. This is what Kyle Sanahan likes. Everyone

694
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: doubting them going in against imnist.

695
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 4: Respect to Kyle, i'minous. Respect. Don't make eye contact.

696
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: If if you thought he was in a bad mood

697
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: after losing to Liam Cohen, Like, who knows what who

698
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: Robert Sala is gonna tell that he's gonna kill after

699
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: this game. Okay, let's get to someone who would never

700
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: say something like that on the football field. It's a

701
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: Walter Payton Man of the Year Award winner. And yes,

702
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: I'm throwing it to you, Jordan. Have a great time

703
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: talking to Kaleis Campbell. I will see you guys on

704
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: our preview show on Wednesday.

705
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: Okay, NFL Daily listeners, it is an unbelievable honor to

706
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: welcome our next guest here today, Kaleis Campbell, once again

707
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 3: an Arizona Cardinal. Thank you very much for coming back

708
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 3: eighteenth NFL season. Khalaiis, I just have one major question

709
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 3: for you that I've wondered for the last probably about

710
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: ten years.

711
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 4: How the heck are you still.

712
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 3: Doing this at such a high level, showing up all

713
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 3: over the stat sheet week over week over week as

714
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 3: still one of the best defensive players in the NFL

715
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 3: in your eighteenth and it breaks my brain?

716
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,479
Speaker 4: How are you doing this well?

717
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 6: I will say, I surprise myself.

718
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 7: You know, I'm just grateful I get to still go

719
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 7: out there and perform at a high level. I love

720
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 7: this game so much with my heart, really a fan.

721
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 7: I'm lucky enough to play it, and so for me,

722
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 7: I just I dedicate myself toward I put a lot

723
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 7: of working hard work does playoff. But this is just God.

724
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 7: You know, I'm very grateful that guy's blessing with the

725
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 7: ability to go out there and produce it, produce at

726
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 7: high level and hopefully keep it going.

727
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 3: I know I never want to see you stop playing.

728
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 3: I know that's very selfish of me, but I grew

729
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: up in Phoenix, and you know I actually interned for

730
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 3: the radio station out there. I know you're very familiar

731
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 3: with Arizona Sports out there, Ron wolf Ley and all

732
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 3: the guys, and I was an intern for them in

733
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen and I was gathering sound in the locker

734
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 3: room and I was squeezed right at the edge of

735
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: the Kaleis Campbell post game scrum that always would surround

736
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 3: you to hear you talk about everything that happened during

737
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: the game. And you will not remember this, but I

738
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: will never forget it. And I was squeezed out of

739
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 3: it by some of the cameras and you turned to

740
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: me at the very end and you asked me if

741
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 3: I got everything I needed. And I was just a

742
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: baby intern at the time.

743
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 4: And for you to.

744
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 3: Notice that and to take an extra second, I mean,

745
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: you've always been such a presence, kalais not just on

746
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 3: the field, but in the locker room. And I see

747
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 3: all of these shots. This Cardinals defense plays their butts off.

748
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: They play so hard, and you're a huge part of that.

749
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 3: And I see these shots of you on the sideline,

750
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: always giving these galvanizing speeches and keeping people's heads in

751
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 3: the game. And I guess over the years you've always

752
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: done that, But how have you developed that?

753
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 4: Where do you look to to.

754
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 3: Find these motivational conversation starters, to find the things that

755
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 3: inspire you to then talk to others. And I see

756
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 3: you post a lot on your Instagram as well, and

757
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: I'm kind of wondering where your curiosity in that space

758
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 3: comes from of motivating people and then letting it all

759
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: out on game day.

760
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think a lot of my motivation, you know,

761
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 7: I love the game of football and I want to

762
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 7: be really really good at it. And the best thing

763
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 7: about football is you the team. You can't do it

764
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 7: by yourself, and so you have to be able to

765
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 7: inspire other people to go and be at the best

766
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 7: vision of themselves, be at a leaite level for you

767
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 7: guys to win. And because that is a big part

768
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 7: of it, you know, you have to learn about motivation,

769
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 7: how to get people to you know, sacrifice self and

770
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 7: become part of a team.

771
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 6: And that's just it's a challenge.

772
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 7: Uh. But over over the years, you know, even when

773
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 7: I was in high school, I've always had this mentality.

774
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 7: In college same thing. So over the years I just

775
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 7: kind of try different things figured out what work. But

776
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 7: one thing for sure is you have to over communicate.

777
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 7: You have to talk to guys. You have to tell them,

778
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 7: remind them all the time. Like this is the most

779
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 7: important play the games, most important drive of the game.

780
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 7: Well we are right now. There's nothing nowhere else, whether

781
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 7: it be like locking breed, get your breath, you know,

782
00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 7: whatever you have to do to get ready for this

783
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 7: ext drive to be the most important one.

784
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 3: Where do you go to to find that for yourself?

785
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 3: I know you're such a competitor and you have that

786
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 3: drive intrinsically, but you know, keeping yourself like locked in

787
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 3: the way that you have at such a high level

788
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,479
Speaker 3: for you know, almost two decades now, Like do you

789
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 3: what are your books that you like to read?

790
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 4: What do you listen to? Do you do breath work?

791
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 4: How are things?

792
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 3: What are things that keep you centered and ready to

793
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 3: kind of let the monster out of the box a

794
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: little bit when you have to.

795
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I have a great support team, you know,

796
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 7: between like you know, just some of my brothers and

797
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 7: sisters and just like you know, some of my best friends,

798
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 7: and I'll ideas and things I'm thinking, you know, off

799
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 7: of one of my best friends. We talk all the

800
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 7: time about like just motivational tactics and you know a

801
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 7: way of going about doing things. My wife does a

802
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 7: good job of keeping me grounded and keeping my head you.

803
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 6: Know, look forward.

804
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 7: But I also will like watch a lot of you know,

805
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 7: old Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant videos and you know,

806
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 7: righting lowest speeches and like that too, So you know

807
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 7: kind of just like always looking like, Okay, who are

808
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 7: the best leaders and what can I learn from them?

809
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 7: You know, what can I use that's going to allow

810
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 7: for me to be a better leader? And but a

811
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 7: lot of it too though it's just natalistic, you know,

812
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 7: like sometimes it's just like staying presidence there on my feet,

813
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 7: are figuring.

814
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: Out what my real goals are.

815
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 7: Right, one of my goals and you know usually it

816
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 7: goes are the win and perform at a high level

817
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 7: on the football field as a team. Well, then what

818
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 7: can I do what's in my power to make that happen?

819
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 7: You know, I feel like I can only I can

820
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 7: only maximize so much of my physical stuff. Like I

821
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 7: just physically I have to you know, be move, flow

822
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 7: and tread a little bit lightly during the week, But

823
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 7: where I can't get better at is the studying, uh,

824
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 7: you know, trying to help other guys understand what their

825
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 7: role is and how they can be more effective with it.

826
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 7: So a lot of the how I can be effective

827
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 7: impact the game comes to the mind and how I

828
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 7: can help other guys.

829
00:39:58,840 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting.

830
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 3: I know it's a point of pride for you that

831
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 3: you are known around the league and pursued every time

832
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: you're a free agent because of what you bring to

833
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: a culture in part, but the real people who know

834
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,479
Speaker 3: ball and watch you every year know that you still

835
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 3: bring it and you start are playing at such a

836
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 3: high level. I guess I know the culture thing is

837
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 3: a point of pride for you, But what's the point

838
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: of pride being Like, Okay, I'm not just a culture guy.

839
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: Like I'm coming in, I'm gonna earn my snaps and

840
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make splash plays. I'm gonna get my giant

841
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 3: hand up there and bat your passes down. Every year,

842
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 3: I'm going to rush the passer, I'm going to stop

843
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 3: the run. What kind of like is that sort of

844
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 3: like a little edge that you still have, Like, hey,

845
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 3: I'm not just in here to motivate people.

846
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 4: I'm here to play ball too.

847
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, you know that's a big part of it too.

848
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 7: Like even when you know I was you know a

849
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 7: little bit of freege in a bunch pretty much every

850
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 7: year last you know, a few years, and like I've

851
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 7: heard a lot of pitchers and teams trying to give

852
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 7: me come there. And when I lead with me just

853
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 7: being like a like a vocal leader, it kind of

854
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 7: like rust me the wrong way a little bit because

855
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 7: like you know that's coming eulematically you know you don't

856
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 7: get that, but you all, I still got to see

857
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 7: me as a baller, you know too, because I can

858
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 7: play football still at a league level.

859
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 6: And part of me, you know.

860
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 7: Part of my motivation is proven it right, proving it

861
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 7: because I mean, everybody thinks you're gonna fall off for that, everybody,

862
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 7: but the part of the people think you're gonna fall off, right,

863
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 7: they take that when you get to be thirty nine

864
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 7: years old, you can't do it if they league love on anymore.

865
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 7: And most time they're right. But part of my motivation

866
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 7: is go out there and proving them wrong, you know.

867
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 7: And it's a daily process, you know, Dlvihn Thomason. He's,

868
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 7: you know, a great teammate of mind, but he always

869
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 7: challenged me pretty much every day, like I don't care

870
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 7: what you get in the past, None of that matters

871
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 7: no more what you're gonna do right now, you know.

872
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 7: And I'm like, you're right, because if I try to

873
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 7: try to play football again, you know, all my history

874
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 7: and all my legacy, that there'll a bit tough for

875
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 7: that when I retire. But right now, none of that matters.

876
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 7: All that matters right now is well I can do

877
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 7: for this team today, And so I have great teammates

878
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 7: around me to keep me grounded, keep me focused on

879
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 7: the main thing. But I would like to be able

880
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 7: to make impact. You know, I told myself I didn't

881
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 7: want to just join any team. I wanted to join

882
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 7: the team by far I can make an impact on

883
00:41:58,920 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 7: and off the field.

884
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and off the field too, Kalais. I want to

885
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 3: talk about that because we see it all over the

886
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 3: tape year after year. But you also you're a Walter

887
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 3: Payton Man of the Year. I mean, people don't forget

888
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 3: like the impact I know as a as a Phoenix

889
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: native like I will never forget the impact that you've

890
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 3: made in the communities. Everywhere you've been, you always do

891
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 3: such an amazing work in the community. And right now

892
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 3: you're working on the Kalais Comes Home Homecoming with a

893
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 3: Heart campaign. Can you tell us a little bit more

894
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: about the work that you're doing.

895
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's kind of a two part thing, you know.

896
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 7: First things first is the health of refuge I've worked

897
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 7: with for a long time.

898
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 6: It seems like it's.

899
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 7: Been over a decade, and they really help people, you know,

900
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 7: going through homelessness, which I personally experienced when I was

901
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 7: a kid, and you know, usually it's you know, single

902
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 7: mothers with a few kids who were trying to get

903
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 7: back on their feet. So we're donating weekly based off

904
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 7: my fats, but really the big, big, big thing is

905
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 7: trying to bring awareness and just try to use a

906
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 7: platform the credit exposure for them. And then as well

907
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 7: as I'm picking nine other charities, they get one home

908
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 7: game and one way away game where I'm trying to

909
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 7: encourage fans to donate alongside me. But I'm doing dating

910
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 7: based off of my stats, and so that's part of

911
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 7: another reason why I want to perform well, because I

912
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 7: want to be able to utilize some of the resources

913
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 7: and bring it to some of these cool charities who

914
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 7: are all Phoenix based or doing some really good stuff,

915
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 7: and I really want to really trying to comb out

916
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 7: on them and show the Finnish community who they are

917
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 7: and what.

918
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 6: They're all about.

919
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 3: Klais when you're helping to provide resources for people who

920
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 3: are experiencing homelessness, I know that's a like you said,

921
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 3: it's a very personal thing for you and a part

922
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 3: of your story. I guess, what can you share with

923
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 3: the audience, with the listeners about common misconceptions about you know,

924
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 3: what they see versus what you're actually experiencing when you

925
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: are out there, you know, in the buildings helping people

926
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 3: in you know, in the communities helping people, and really

927
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: what you want people to know about this work that

928
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 3: you're doing.

929
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

930
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 7: So a lot of times, very similar to my family story,

931
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 7: where you just follow hard times, right, you know. I

932
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 7: know sometimes you can get the narrative yet like people,

933
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 7: we are homeless, you know, I mean for whatever reason. Right,

934
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 7: most of the time, it's just you fellow hard times, right,

935
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 7: Misfortune comes at the wrong time, you're not prepared for it,

936
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 7: and you have to just make do when you were

937
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 7: just trying to tradewater and figure it out that you

938
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 7: can get back into a good spot. And so for

939
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 7: my family growing up, both of parents lost their job

940
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 7: at the same time. You know, we end up getting

941
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 7: evicteddn't have anywhere to go, and you know, we found

942
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 7: a family homer shelter similar to what House of Refuge does,

943
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 7: where they keep families together, and you know, we're there

944
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 7: for like six months and now my parents can get

945
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 7: back on their feet. And then coming out of that,

946
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 7: you know, we move into a what bedroom home you know,

947
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 7: for another like six months or so, and then we

948
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 7: end moving to a five bedro one mouse after that.

949
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 7: And it was just like, you know, kind of like

950
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 7: we just needed somebody to help us for a short

951
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 7: period of time before we can get back on our feet.

952
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 7: And that's the same thing with a lot of these

953
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 7: families that you're dealing with. You know, a lot of

954
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 7: them just need a little bit helpful a short period of

955
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 7: time time you get back on their feet, and then

956
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 7: you get them, you know, to a place where they

957
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 7: can you know, be self sufficient and then go out

958
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 7: there and and you know, and live a normal life again.

959
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 7: And so you know, it's just like man, like you know,

960
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 7: I think a lot of times you try to encourage

961
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 7: people to realize, like you know, just to help in hand.

962
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 7: You know, some people just need to help a hand.

963
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 7: It's not up forever, you know, helping for the rest

964
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 7: of your life. You just just got help for a

965
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 7: short period of time and then you know, most people

966
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 7: can get back on their feet and do and do

967
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:37,959
Speaker 7: great things in this world.

968
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 3: Well said, and it's been so impressive. You are like

969
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 3: the living embodiment of a helping hand, not just in

970
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 3: the community, but on the field as well. He's still going, guys, somehow,

971
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 3: some way at a.

972
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 4: High level class.

973
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 3: It was like a personal and also a really great

974
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 3: honor to talk to you today.

975
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for taking the time.

976
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 3: Every Body go check out Kalais comes Home Homecoming with

977
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 3: a Heart campaign. We'll make sure to share these links

978
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 3: on social and within the episode description as well.

979
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 4: Kalais good luck this week man. We really appreciate it.

980
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 6: Well, thank you for your tiking. I appreciate you.

981
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 4: That was the legend.

982
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 3: Kalaeis Campbell still doing incredible work on and off the field,

983
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: personal hero of mine. Stoked to be able to talk

984
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 3: to him today. You guys, this is a pretty fun show, honestly.

985
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: I mean I got to sit in the power chair,

986
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 3: had to lower it a little bit. Shots to Greg,

987
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 3: Greg and Patrick Claibon and myself. We'll be back later

988
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 3: this week with the preview shows and Guys Week five.

989
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 4: Right right, let's do it.