Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour on this Tuesday, Cinco de Mayo,
Speaker 1: And I said, are we having tacos today? And lo
Speaker 1: and behold Cinco de Mayo, tacos coming up, braized chicken.
Speaker 1: We came in this morning, and I said to PAULI,
Speaker 1: because the other Danets are at home, I said, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be tough to do a show today because it'll
Speaker 1: be hard to concentrate. Man, does it smell good in here?
Speaker 1: Not as good as maybe the Italian sandwiches, the Italian
Speaker 1: beef sandwiches on Friday, but it's really close. Oh that's right.
Speaker 1: The Dane's missed out on that as well. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: well we'll let you know how they taste in about
Speaker 1: forty minutes from now. You're the Michael Jordan of foods.
Speaker 1: You're just rubbing it in. M Yeah, MC club. I'm
Speaker 1: cooking some nice soup here, Dan, soup, do you cookop? Well,
Speaker 1: you open the can, you throw it in the pot.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I don't know if you cooked it.
Speaker 1: You heat? I think you heat soup. Yeah, that would
Speaker 1: be talking about the heat and the heat. All right,
Speaker 1: Final Hour, we'll talk to Mike Florio. I don't know
Speaker 1: how he is going to spend his Thursday night the
Speaker 1: three hours that they have for the schedule release with
Speaker 1: the NFL. Man, I give it to the NFL full
Speaker 1: speed ahead, Do not pass, go, do not collect two
Speaker 1: hundred dollars. Man, there's like we're going straight ahead. We
Speaker 1: got football coming up here. All right? Maybe you do,
Speaker 1: and here's your schedule. I want to know what happens
Speaker 1: if you don't have a sixteen game schedule. Where do
Speaker 1: you take the games from the schedule? Do you take
Speaker 1: games that are non conference? You got to have the
Speaker 1: games within your own division. I'd be curious about that.
Speaker 1: Let's say you have a twelve game schedule. Let's just
Speaker 1: worst case scenario. Do you work your way back or
Speaker 1: from front to back with your schedule? That's what I'm curious.
Speaker 1: If I have to eliminate let's say two games or
Speaker 1: four games, how am I eliminating them? No games in
Speaker 1: Mexico City, there's no games in London. So we'll talk
Speaker 1: to Florio about that. He'll join us coming up a
Speaker 1: little bit. And as sports fans, we've been put to
Speaker 1: the test. We love competition, and ESPN is really putting
Speaker 1: that theory to the test because I watched Korean baseball.
Speaker 1: I did Samsung Lions, who I had the under against
Speaker 1: the NC Dinos, and the NC Dinos beat Samsung for
Speaker 1: nothing last night. And look, this is an interesting experiment
Speaker 1: we have for sports fans now. And you know, if
Speaker 1: you're trying to get young kids to watch baseball, will
Speaker 1: young kids watch Korean baseball? They have the bat flip, Hey, skippy,
Speaker 1: let's watch the Korean Baseball League. They encourage a bat
Speaker 1: flip here. You know there's no brushback pitches after a
Speaker 1: bat flip here. I go back to the early days
Speaker 1: of ESPN Australian rules football. I have no idea what
Speaker 1: the rules were, but I'll be damned if I didn't
Speaker 1: watch Come back from the Bar and you're like, what's
Speaker 1: on Australian rules football? All right? The guy in the
Speaker 1: white Trent coat. Yeah, and we'd watch darts. We'd watch
Speaker 1: it'll be fun. I don't know if it's a distraction
Speaker 1: or not, but I'll give it a go. I'll take
Speaker 1: a spin with the Korean baseball dick and entertaining, entertaining
Speaker 1: Avery and Florida joins us. What's on your mind? Avery, Hey,
Speaker 1: how are you doing? Good, sir? So basically I'm at work.
Speaker 1: I'd make it quick for you. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: thank you for a lot of these guests that you
Speaker 1: bring on them. I'm twenty years old and a lot
Speaker 1: of these guys I've never had a chance to listen
Speaker 1: to them to speak, So bring me the questions he
Speaker 1: asked them. Gives a lot of insight on what they've
Speaker 1: experienced and whatever profession is they've done. And I'm a huge, huge,
Speaker 1: just I'm obsessed with golf. So here in Brooks kept
Speaker 1: here this morning was pretty special. Yeah he's a good dude. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like him. I think he's got a good personality.
Speaker 1: What do you do for a living, Avery, I've gone
Speaker 1: to school right now. My dream is to be a
Speaker 1: PGA licensed teaching pro and I work at a private
Speaker 1: course over here in the Tampa area right now. Nice,
Speaker 1: any famous people's come through a certain I won't tell
Speaker 1: you where I am at exactly because I can I
Speaker 1: can lose my job for that. But a certain quarterback
Speaker 1: is a Tampa Bay Bucks is a number? Has he
Speaker 1: been there? He has? I was five feet away from
Speaker 1: him the other day. How was said Hall of fame quarterback,
Speaker 1: his golf games. His most athletic dude I've ever seen
Speaker 1: in person. It's no understatement. He's as lean as anyone
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. And he's got just a hand eye coordination,
Speaker 1: just fluent, you know, brings the club ed back and
Speaker 1: swings through. It's just something else to see. He didn't
Speaker 1: ask for any advice. He's getting lessons from the teaching call. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, but he's got to get ready because he's
Speaker 1: got that match Phil Nicholson, Tiger Peyton Manning and the
Speaker 1: quarterback who belongs to this course. Maybe he'll uh, maybe
Speaker 1: he'll use a few of those tips that are are
Speaker 1: guy Davey nice, nice, Well, Avery, thank you for the
Speaker 1: phone call, and I'm glad that we're entertaining you. Thank
Speaker 1: you again. All right, that's Avery works at a golf course,
Speaker 1: and I know that golf course where a certain quarterback
Speaker 1: is a member there. Yes, boy, sounds like here he
Speaker 1: loves himself from Tommy. That's gonna be upset. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's the most athletic guy. I wouldn't say Tom's the
Speaker 1: most athletic guys. Wiry, Oh well, he takes the club
Speaker 1: back on his past parallel. He's his arms so straight,
Speaker 1: so straight? Oh, what is wrong with us? What is wrong?
Speaker 1: What is right with us? Either? So Tampa Bay, I
Speaker 1: saw where two trademarks have been filed for the Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay Gronken Ears. Now we came up with the Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay Gronkin Ears. We didn't want to go back into
Speaker 1: that sensitive topic of Tampa Bay. But I saw where
Speaker 1: Gronken Ears people have filed for a trademark. Yeah, seton,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's anybody officiel though, by the way,
Speaker 1: I think that's people trying to jump on the second
Speaker 1: wave of that. Did we make a T shirt yet
Speaker 1: with the gronkn Ears? Oh? Yeah, weeks ago? Oh okay,
Speaker 1: I thought we did. I just we didn't get a
Speaker 1: cease and desist. That usually, you know, if I know
Speaker 1: we've done something that to successful was going to unnerve somebody,
Speaker 1: I get a cease and desist. The very end of
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay lawsuit controversy, we were selling pairs of
Speaker 1: the you could get Tampa Bay and Gronkin Ears together
Speaker 1: as a bundle. I like that. I like that. I
Speaker 1: haven't gotten a cease and desist in a while. Yeah,
Speaker 1: plea with Crons lawyers. It wouldn't be season desist to
Speaker 1: be bro Chill, that'd be the official letter bro Chill. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the grunkin ears. God, I still laugh at the Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay When I told my wife, I said I got
Speaker 1: a season desist and she goes why and I said
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay And she goes Tampa Bay and I go,
Speaker 1: we made T shirt for Tom Brady going to Tampa
Speaker 1: And she goes, oh, that's so corny. I go, exactly,
Speaker 1: that's right right up my alley with my audience. It's corny,
Speaker 1: like who would come up with Tampa Bay. And then
Speaker 1: she goes, what are you going to comply? And I said, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going to comply. But I had to read portion
Speaker 1: of the season desist and then I said, let's make
Speaker 1: a T shirt off of something that was in the
Speaker 1: season desist letter that his name is Tom, his name
Speaker 1: is Tom, his number is twelve, his last name is Brady.
Speaker 1: I said, Seaton, we got to do his name is
Speaker 1: Tom T shirt? Yes, forsl and didn't we put something
Speaker 1: at the back. We appreciate it through. Yeah, Well, they
Speaker 1: were varying, very nice and it's mclovin said day this
Speaker 1: law firm is no joke. No, no, they're no joke,
Speaker 1: and we certainly respect that they did their job for Tom.
Speaker 1: They did say that we appreciate your enthusiasm. I said,
Speaker 1: we got our T shirt. Here, we got another T shirt,
Speaker 1: and you can check out those T shirts by the
Speaker 1: way at dan Patrick dot com. All right, we got
Speaker 1: a pull question. We stand with that poll question there. Mclovin. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm still surprised. If you could start a t with
Speaker 1: any center after nineteen eighty five, who would it be?
Speaker 1: Shack was the answer? Can I ask you that same question,
Speaker 1: what if who is college centers? And you put in
Speaker 1: Ralph Sampson into that conversation? Who is the best college
Speaker 1: center during that era of centers? Um? I didn't think
Speaker 1: Ralph was a great center. I think at seven to four,
Speaker 1: you've not seen that before. I just and it's not
Speaker 1: fair to Ralph because it's hard to live up to
Speaker 1: that literally and figuratively you're seven four. I just didn't
Speaker 1: find him as dominating. Didn't you have that showdown with
Speaker 1: Sampson and Ewing? Yeah, there's three Ralph Sampson in college.
Speaker 1: He averaged twenty points and twelve rebounds. Basically for four years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I found him to be an athletic big man.
Speaker 1: I didn't find him to be like Ewing was such
Speaker 1: a force. Alcindor was such a force. Bill Walton such
Speaker 1: a force. Like these were true great big men and intimidators.
Speaker 1: I always thought Ralph he may not have had that
Speaker 1: personality that he wanted to crush your spirit. And you know,
Speaker 1: if he played now, he'd be porzingis, wouldn't he He'd
Speaker 1: be a stretch three or whatever they call him now.
Speaker 1: But now I put I'm trying to I'm sure I'm
Speaker 1: leaving out some centers. But if Elijahan was spectacular, he
Speaker 1: just was both ends just so graceful. Yeah, he Alisindor
Speaker 1: was graceful, a kym was had better footwork, like he
Speaker 1: had a point guard's footwork there, And yeah, I would
Speaker 1: probably take him. David Robinson was wonderful when he was
Speaker 1: at the Naval Academy. You know, there's a few and
Speaker 1: then I'll leave him out. Like Tim Duncan wasn't a
Speaker 1: big man. I had to go out of your way
Speaker 1: to find wake Forrest and then you'd watch and go, Okay,
Speaker 1: that guy seems like he's pretty good. Nobody thought Tim
Speaker 1: Duncan was going to be Tim Duncan because you weren't
Speaker 1: quite sure. Is he a forward? Was he a center?
Speaker 1: And I think going to the Spurs team that was
Speaker 1: already established David was there, you ended up getting all
Speaker 1: star lineup, a Hall of famers there, and Duncan was
Speaker 1: the quintessential. He would be almost and maybe this isn't
Speaker 1: fair a modern day Bill Russell from the standpoint of
Speaker 1: what do you want me to do? Make the team better,
Speaker 1: because I'm going to do it and they would win
Speaker 1: now he put up. He was a better offensive player
Speaker 1: than Bill Russell, not as good defensively, but you know,
Speaker 1: Duncan was when when your nickname is the big fundamental,
Speaker 1: it's not like you're just screaming for highlights there. We
Speaker 1: didn't fight over the Spurs highlights back there in the
Speaker 1: Sports Center days. No, I want Duncan's highlights. Nobody did that.
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Inquire columnist criticized the Last Dance for allowing Jordan
Speaker 1: to trample all over Jerry Krause, and the column is this, Uh,
Speaker 1: Mike Selski, it's pretty I think it's Sealski. Sealski, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a head columnists now for the inquiry. Yeah, he uh.
Speaker 1: He said that basically, they never should have allowed Jordan
Speaker 1: to trample on Jerry Krause, you know, who's now deceased.
Speaker 1: But in the column he says that, you know, this
Speaker 1: really tells you who Jordan was all about. It's harder
Speaker 1: to separate the entertainment and algic value of the series
Speaker 1: from Jordan's agenda, from his desire to preserve his legacy,
Speaker 1: settled scores, and rub his status and greatness in the
Speaker 1: faces of his real and perceived rivals, one in particular,
Speaker 1: Jerry Krause, Bulls general manager for eighteen years. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: understand this, I do. But that's who Jordan. If you're
Speaker 1: gonna show Jordan, then this is who he is. I mean,
Speaker 1: Jerry Krause is deceased, but that doesn't stop Michael from
Speaker 1: getting his side of the story. There, you know, Isaiah Thomas,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you my side of the story. That's
Speaker 1: what this is all about. It's a chance for Michael
Speaker 1: to you can say, set the record straight, but he's
Speaker 1: not really changing anything. This is who he is and
Speaker 1: who he was. Jordan apparently can't abide by Krause playing
Speaker 1: a role in any of the Bulls success, with a
Speaker 1: physique like a honeypot, according to the columnist, and an
Speaker 1: irascible disposition with his own opinions about how to operate
Speaker 1: an NBA team. Mike doesn't give Jerry Krauss any credit
Speaker 1: for the bull success. These are wounds that you know,
Speaker 1: the Isaiah Thomas stuff. I mean, there are people still
Speaker 1: talking about Isaiah not making the Dream Team. And I
Speaker 1: know that Isaiah has to answer this, but how can
Speaker 1: he answer to it? Hey, I'm one of the great
Speaker 1: point guards of all time. Maybe people just didn't like me.
Speaker 1: You know, nobody wants to Patrick Ewing didn't want to
Speaker 1: talk about it today. Barkley didn't want to talk about it. Hey,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know why he wentn't on
Speaker 1: the Dream Team. We do. There has to be Am.
Speaker 1: It drives me crazy with this because you have you
Speaker 1: had the front office of the Pistons running the Dream Team,
Speaker 1: you have the coaching staff, right, Jam, couldn't they have
Speaker 1: just said, hey, we want Isaiah on this team. Do
Speaker 1: they play a role here? The reason why they don't
Speaker 1: play a role is I honestly think it was discussed privately.
Speaker 1: This is who we want. This is who I want
Speaker 1: on the Dream Team. And they didn't want to hang
Speaker 1: with Isaiah. That's all I mean. David Falk, Michael's agent,
Speaker 1: could have said, hey, by the way, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: the bad cop here, Mike will play, because once again
Speaker 1: they wanted Michael to play, not needed, but they wanted.
Speaker 1: They wanted to have the Dream Team. They wanted to
Speaker 1: showcase these players. They wanted to have global expansion with basketball,
Speaker 1: and it did. The impact of the Dream Team cannot
Speaker 1: be overestimate with what it meant in these soccer driven
Speaker 1: countries now wanting to play basketball. That's what the NBA
Speaker 1: envision That's what David Stern envisioned, and he told me
Speaker 1: that that was the importance. We want to showcase our
Speaker 1: best players. We want global expansion here, we want our
Speaker 1: games to be broadcast in other countries. And you look
Speaker 1: at China before what happened, you know, in the preseason,
Speaker 1: then that seemed like a long time ago. And I
Speaker 1: mean that's a billion dollar enterprise the NBA in China
Speaker 1: and all these players growing up and seeing that, I
Speaker 1: just don't think they wanted to hang with Isaiah. Thomas
Speaker 1: Stockton was going to be on his own nobody. He
Speaker 1: was not going to roufle any feathers. John was just
Speaker 1: going to go in and be a professional play That's it.
Speaker 1: Barkley got to hang bird Ewing, Jordan got to hang.
Speaker 1: He got Chuck daily to play golf with every day.
Speaker 1: Here is Jack McCallum. He's the author of He wrote
Speaker 1: the book on the Dream Team and this courtesy of
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Jack McCallum on Isaiah not being on
Speaker 1: the Dream Team. It's my best information that Chuck never
Speaker 1: went to the committee and said I gotta have my captain.
Speaker 1: So there was a lot more people than Jordan, you know,
Speaker 1: involved in this decision, and McCloskey was a powerful member
Speaker 1: of that committee. I mean Jack said that, you know,
Speaker 1: he resigned because Isaiah wasn't on there. But my information
Speaker 1: is that there wasn't a lot of table pounding by
Speaker 1: the two Piston people that were in the best position
Speaker 1: to get Isaiah on the team. Yeah, we can blame Jordan,
Speaker 1: you can blame some of the other players there, but
Speaker 1: I mean the Pistons didn't. Chuck Daly was the head
Speaker 1: coach here. I just think this came down to the environment.
Speaker 1: They didn't want Isaiah was a better point guard than
Speaker 1: John Stockton. If you're going to ask Michael to do
Speaker 1: something for you, now it did help Michael and the
Speaker 1: Jordan brand. But if you're asking Michael, hey, I want you,
Speaker 1: I need you to play for the Dream too. I
Speaker 1: need you to play and you say to Mike, I
Speaker 1: got a three week I got a month vacation for you.
Speaker 1: You get to play golf, you get to have some fun,
Speaker 1: you get to dunk on some you know, countries that
Speaker 1: aren't very good in basketball, and you can showcase air Jordan.
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you up for it? Who else is
Speaker 1: on the team would be my first question. And when
Speaker 1: he says who's on the team, you know what he
Speaker 1: is referring to, and he says it in the documentary.
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Isaiah that he's got to answer
Speaker 1: these questions of not being liked, because really that's what
Speaker 1: it comes down to. Bill Namebier doesn't give a damn
Speaker 1: if you like him or not Isaiah. But Bill Lambier
Speaker 1: wasn't on the Dream Team. Isaiah cares what you think
Speaker 1: about him. Bill Lambier did not, does not, And it's
Speaker 1: you know, I understand where Isaiah's got to answer these
Speaker 1: questions like why weren't you on the Dream too? Why
Speaker 1: were you on the Dream And he doesn't know. All
Speaker 1: you need to see is that Mike in that day
Speaker 1: when he has that documentary, when he hears Isaiah say
Speaker 1: something about Michael and then he basically curses after that,
Speaker 1: he respects Isaiah. He doesn't like Isaiah, so why would
Speaker 1: he go, hey, I don't like you, but come on,
Speaker 1: have some fun with the Dream Team. I mean, it
Speaker 1: just doesn't make any sense the Pistons front office there
Speaker 1: with Chuck Daly. Isaiah deserved to be on the Dream Team.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to start taking out people,
Speaker 1: Isaiah would be one of the top five players would
Speaker 1: probably have on the Dream Team. Back then, Larry was
Speaker 1: past his prime. You could say Chris Mallen, okay, wonderful player, absolutely,
Speaker 1: but you know Isaiah was better. Do I look at
Speaker 1: Clyde Drechsler and I mean, that's I hate doing it.
Speaker 1: But if you were saying, you know that guy or
Speaker 1: this guy, well, I think Michael wanted to have fun
Speaker 1: and I don't blame him. You look at the power
Speaker 1: that Mike had. Michael had so much power the last
Speaker 1: year of his career. He said to the NBA, you
Speaker 1: can shoot all of this, but it's mine. Imagine the power.
Speaker 1: You can shoot all this documentary, all this footage, I
Speaker 1: sign off on it. That's power. And that's why we
Speaker 1: have a documentary because Michael said, now we can do it.
Speaker 1: Lebron just won his third title. Let's put it out.
Speaker 1: Let's give people a taste of what that was all
Speaker 1: about and why there is no discussion of who's the
Speaker 1: greatest player of all time. And I'm gonna settle some scores.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna rub it into some people. I don't stop.
Speaker 1: I never stop. This is who I am, this is
Speaker 1: who I will always be. Twenty after the hour, This
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, thanks for joining us from the barn.
Speaker 1: The NFL's overall strategy here full speed ahead. You know,
Speaker 1: with the draft we're still gonna have it. Was there
Speaker 1: any ability of them not having the schedule release party
Speaker 1: this Thursday? Well, you know there was a report last
Speaker 1: week that the league office had been debating whether to
Speaker 1: delay it because once you release the dates, presumably tickets
Speaker 1: or for sale, do you get yourself into a situation
Speaker 1: where you've got to deal with processing refunds? How do
Speaker 1: you deal with all of that? But the NFL ultimately
Speaker 1: decided to go forward. There is a high level of
Speaker 1: optimism Dan that they are going to get the season
Speaker 1: in now. Well, they have to delay it by a
Speaker 1: month or so to accommodate allowing people to attend games,
Speaker 1: And as crazy as that sounds, there is confidence within
Speaker 1: the league office that people will be able to attend
Speaker 1: games that they choose to do so that the world
Speaker 1: will be very different come September or October. But there
Speaker 1: continues to be this sense that this is what they
Speaker 1: need to do. There's a ton of money that is
Speaker 1: riding on it. Plus they believe they're doing a public
Speaker 1: service to those of us who are desperate for sports
Speaker 1: to return. I was also wondering about this because I
Speaker 1: think we both heard from sources that, you know, if
Speaker 1: there's a truncated season, let's say it's twelve games or
Speaker 1: fourteen games, where do they take those two games or
Speaker 1: four games from it from non conference, the front of
Speaker 1: the schedule, back of the schedule. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: at this point, but it does make sense to look
Speaker 1: at the schedule very carefully when it comes out to
Speaker 1: look for those clues. That's the first thing I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: There's been speculation that the interconference games will be the
Speaker 1: first four weeks of the season, and those would be
Speaker 1: the ones that would most easily be wiped out or
Speaker 1: maybe taken away and put on that back end of
Speaker 1: the schedule. Dan, I think it is very possible that
Speaker 1: the season would be delayed by up to a month
Speaker 1: to accommodate the ability to have open stadiums. That politically,
Speaker 1: it's going to be delicate in states like California to
Speaker 1: get the governors to sign off on the idea of
Speaker 1: letting anyone who chooses to show up, understanding the risks
Speaker 1: and testing will be much more prevalent by then, it'll
Speaker 1: be easier for people to know if they've had this
Speaker 1: virus via antibody testing. But if delaying in a month
Speaker 1: allows every state that has an NFL state get to
Speaker 1: the point where they'll say, go ahead, let people show
Speaker 1: up if they choose to, that's what they would do.
Speaker 1: And then I guess they could take those first four
Speaker 1: games and tack them onto the back end of the
Speaker 1: season if that's what they choose to do. But I'm
Speaker 1: going to be looking for that flexibility that may kind
Speaker 1: of scream out from the schedule the moment that it's released.
Speaker 1: And I was told that, you know, maybe we pushed
Speaker 1: back the super Bowl, but I was told that the
Speaker 1: NFL would love to have the super Bowl over President's
Speaker 1: Day weekend. You get that Monday off, so now you
Speaker 1: have that built in holiday that people keep asking for
Speaker 1: the unofficial day after the super Bowl. What do you
Speaker 1: think about that? Oh, They've been trying to get the
Speaker 1: super Bowl to President's Day weekend for as long as
Speaker 1: I've been covering the NFL. I think they really want
Speaker 1: to do it. An eighteenth game will do it. But
Speaker 1: before we get to an eighteenth game, this is a
Speaker 1: way to bump the super Bowl back a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks and get it on President's Day weekend. But look,
Speaker 1: and the mere fact that there would be a super
Speaker 1: Bowl this year, given everything we've gone for, in and
Speaker 1: of itself, is a holiday. So just getting the season
Speaker 1: in getting the super Bowl, l I know, it seems
Speaker 1: weird now because we're still in the early days relatively speaking,
Speaker 1: at this pandemic. But I have been told with a
Speaker 1: very high degree of confidence that the world will be
Speaker 1: much different come August in September, and it will be
Speaker 1: a lot easier for sports teams to operate, not like
Speaker 1: they normally would, but in a way that actually makes
Speaker 1: sense and that manages the risks of people getting the virus.
Speaker 1: He's Mike Florio. You can check him out Monday through
Speaker 1: Friday seven and nine am Eastern, and he's also on
Speaker 1: the Dan Patrick radio channel That's Serious, Channel two eleven.
Speaker 1: Best case scenario for Cam Newton now is what wait
Speaker 1: wait for someone to get injured. We had a graphic
Speaker 1: on the show yesterday of all the starting quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: were injured last year. Remember early in the year, Cam
Speaker 1: Newton was gone week two. Ben Roethlisberger was gone week two,
Speaker 1: Drew Brees was gone week two, although he came back.
Speaker 1: And I think for Cam Newton at this point, with
Speaker 1: all the seats taken, with the Patriots showing no inclination
Speaker 1: to try to add him to depth chart, you just
Speaker 1: wait for someone to get hurt and you just assume
Speaker 1: that it'll happen, and if it doesn't, well you keep waiting.
Speaker 1: But there isn't an opportunity out there for him. He's
Speaker 1: not going to take the Andy Dalton package of three
Speaker 1: million dollars minimum plus the ability to make up to
Speaker 1: seven moon. He's just not going to do that. He's
Speaker 1: going to wait for someone to say, Cam, you are
Speaker 1: our guy. And the other reality too. And this is
Speaker 1: what hurt him this year, the inability to go get
Speaker 1: checked out by a team doctor because he's got the
Speaker 1: foot surgery from last year, the shoulder surgery from the
Speaker 1: year before that caused him to change his throng motion. Dan,
Speaker 1: that's how serious that situation was. He's got to get
Speaker 1: checked out before a team will sign him. And I
Speaker 1: think at this point he should just wait until the
Speaker 1: season starts and someone calls and says we need you
Speaker 1: right now. I had somebody say this to me yesterday,
Speaker 1: and they said, what about Cam in Pittsburgh? And I said,
Speaker 1: it's tricky because I don't that means what about Ben?
Speaker 1: With Cam in Pittsburgh? And I don't know how long
Speaker 1: Ben is going to play. And if you bring Cam
Speaker 1: Newton to town, it's an upgrade over what you have
Speaker 1: but does Cam fit into what Pittsburgh wants to do
Speaker 1: or it will be doing after the ben error is
Speaker 1: over well, and what's he gonna want financially. That's the
Speaker 1: other side of it too. And one of the things
Speaker 1: you have to take into account is that if you
Speaker 1: bring Cam Newton onto a team, you better be secure
Speaker 1: in your starter because instantly you're going to have guys
Speaker 1: in the locker room who look at Cam and look
Speaker 1: at your starter. They look at Cam, they look at
Speaker 1: your starter, and it's not going to take many practices
Speaker 1: before they start saying Cam is the better guy. Now
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, that's not going to be the case. But
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the inherent problems of him
Speaker 1: being a backup anywhere, because he's better than most starters.
Speaker 1: So in Pittsburgh, yeah, it would make sense to have
Speaker 1: a better backup. I just don't think it makes sense
Speaker 1: for Cam to commit to being a backup anywhere when
Speaker 1: he can just sit back and wait for someone to
Speaker 1: get injured. We've been at this a long time and
Speaker 1: we know how negotiations go, and you like the Cowboys
Speaker 1: situation now borders maybe it is embarrassing, not borders on
Speaker 1: it's been embarrassing with Dak Prescott. It feels like there's
Speaker 1: a price and that's it. That's the price, and if
Speaker 1: you pay the price, then we move on. It feels
Speaker 1: like everybody else got their price. Dak is saying, this
Speaker 1: is what my price is? What is the price? Like?
Speaker 1: What is the hold up here where they just don't say,
Speaker 1: this is we're giving you thirty five a year, Dak,
Speaker 1: here it is, let's go, let's move forward. Well here's
Speaker 1: the lesson that all teams can take from the Cowboys
Speaker 1: experience with Dak Prescott. The longer you wait, the more
Speaker 1: expensive it will get. The moment you know this is
Speaker 1: your guy, pay them and pay them now, because it's
Speaker 1: not going to get any cheaper. The Chiefs need to
Speaker 1: be listening to that as it relates to Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: The Texans need to be listening to it as it
Speaker 1: relates to Shaun Watson. The longer you wait, the more
Speaker 1: expensive it gets. And here's what they are now. It's
Speaker 1: very simple. Now, Dan, it has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the market. They've applied the exclusive franchise tag to Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: That's thirty one point four million this year, a twenty
Speaker 1: percent raise. Next year. That's another six point two million
Speaker 1: on top of the thirty one point four that's almost
Speaker 1: thirty seven and a half million dollars next year. You
Speaker 1: put it together, it's sixty nine million over two years.
Speaker 1: There's your thirty five million per year right there. And
Speaker 1: if Dak goes year to year by year three twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two, he's entitled to do a forty four percent
Speaker 1: raise over what he makes next year. You're talking about
Speaker 1: astronomical numbers, and the only alternative is to let him
Speaker 1: hit the open market. So he has them over a barrel,
Speaker 1: and it's their own fault because they waited this long.
Speaker 1: So all he does is sits back and waits, and
Speaker 1: he's guaranteed thirty one point four million this year. The
Speaker 1: only weapon the Cowboys have left, and I don't think
Speaker 1: they'll ever use it. They just rescind the tender. And
Speaker 1: think about that. If they would remove the tender right
Speaker 1: now and make Dak Prescott a free agent, who in
Speaker 1: the hell is going to pay him thirty one point
Speaker 1: four million? Who can? Everybody's got their starters, so he
Speaker 1: would be screwed financially. If the Cowboys use their nuclear option,
Speaker 1: saying all right, we're taking away the franchise tender. You're
Speaker 1: a free agent. You wanted to be a free agent,
Speaker 1: go ahead and be one. Now, good luck finding a team.
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton signing was smart to have a backup or
Speaker 1: leverage against Dak. Well, it's smart to have a backup.
Speaker 1: And here's the other thing too. Let's say that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and Dak Prescott don't work out a long term
Speaker 1: deal by the deadline of July fifteen. That's the annual
Speaker 1: drop dead date for doing a long term deal with
Speaker 1: a franchise tag player. If you don't do that deal,
Speaker 1: the player can still stay away from training camp in
Speaker 1: the preseason at no financial penalty because he's not under contract.
Speaker 1: Levion Bell did that in twenty seventeen, showed up right
Speaker 1: before the start of the season, made his full franchise
Speaker 1: tag salary. So now they've got protection against Dak doing
Speaker 1: that because otherwise Cooper Rush was going to be your
Speaker 1: starting quarterback for training camp in the preseason. Now, if
Speaker 1: Dak does stay away, they at least have Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: that they can get ready to go, and then it
Speaker 1: makes for an intriguing decision if it plays out that way.
Speaker 1: Dalton is ready to go. He knows Mike McCarthy's offense.
Speaker 1: Dak shows up a week before the first game and says, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm here, give me the football. Mike McCarthy may say
Speaker 1: we're gonna go with the guy who's ready to play
Speaker 1: at least for a week or two. That could make
Speaker 1: things even worse. But it all comes back to the
Speaker 1: Cowboys not paying Dak the moment they could after that
Speaker 1: third regular season finale. That's when the window opens to
Speaker 1: pay a guy. The sooner you pay him, the cheaper
Speaker 1: it's going to be. I'll leave you with this with
Speaker 1: the Packers plan, the overall game plan. Here, give me
Speaker 1: the strategy, just because I don't I don't understand it,
Speaker 1: but you know you're smarter than I am. No, listen,
Speaker 1: I know I'm not, first of all, and second of all,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell of the game plan is.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the plan is there is no plan, and it
Speaker 1: may be as basic as just trying to ensure that
Speaker 1: you get the absolute best out of Aaron Rodgers over
Speaker 1: the next couple of seasons, because he's gonna be pissed
Speaker 1: off that you went out and drafted his eventual replacement.
Speaker 1: Ten They invested a first round pick and a fourth
Speaker 1: round pick on a guy who, at best is a
Speaker 1: project with a high ceiling, but nobody knows where that
Speaker 1: ceiling is going to be. Less than twenty months after
Speaker 1: they signed Aaron Rodgers to a four year extension, think
Speaker 1: about that. They've paid him almost eighty two million dollars
Speaker 1: or twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen combined to have a
Speaker 1: contract that lasts four more years with him. Now, those
Speaker 1: four years have been undermined by the decision to not
Speaker 1: invest that first round pick in a receiver or someone
Speaker 1: that will help the team win, but in a guy
Speaker 1: who's going to take over at some point down the road.
Speaker 1: For Aaron Rodgers, it makes no sense to me, and
Speaker 1: a point that Chris Sims made that I think is
Speaker 1: just genius. If they had a real owner in Green Bed,
Speaker 1: if they had a Jerry Jones, if they had a
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Lauria, Robert Kraft, one person who signs off on
Speaker 1: these moves. Would one owner have ever said, sure, go
Speaker 1: ahead and draft a quarterback in Round one, twenty months
Speaker 1: after you convinced me to sign Aaron Rodgers to this
Speaker 1: massive contract. Yeah, that makes sense. Well, maybe I am
Speaker 1: a genius because yeah, I said the same thing on
Speaker 1: the show that Chris said that if you had an owner,
Speaker 1: I don't think if I think you go to that
Speaker 1: owner like Tom Brady went to, you know, Robert Kraft.
Speaker 1: I can go to you there's a problem here, or
Speaker 1: the owner goes to the player and says something, you're
Speaker 1: run by a committee. And I think that that factored
Speaker 1: into the Aaron Rodgers situation. I really do. And Dan,
Speaker 1: I also think CEO Mark Murphy, I think he relishes
Speaker 1: that that just that with a dysfunction and acrimony. He
Speaker 1: thinks that gets more out of Aaron Rodgers. He said
Speaker 1: it last year after that Bleacher Report item came out
Speaker 1: that threw a lot of gasoline on whatever was smolting
Speaker 1: between Rogers and Mike McCarthy. Mark Murphy liked what that
Speaker 1: could mean for the team and they went thirteen and three.
Speaker 1: So maybe Murphy thinks, hey, let's piss this guy off.
Speaker 1: He's gonna play better if he's upset. Oh. I think
Speaker 1: it's crazy, but I us no complaint. I know, Hey,
Speaker 1: I think if we don't choose the stories, the stories
Speaker 1: choose us. Oh that's why when Gronk wants to come back. Sure,
Speaker 1: come on back, Gronk. I don't. I hope he's safe,
Speaker 1: but if he wants him back, hey, it's his life. Great.
Speaker 1: You know. By the way, I have two Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: T shirts left, and if you would like one, because
Speaker 1: we were told to season desist, we can't sell them anymore.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you'd like to. Would you like
Speaker 1: a Tampa Bay T shirt? Am I going to get
Speaker 1: a season No? No, no, no, no, I got it.
Speaker 1: I got the season desist. Yeah, we heard from Brady's
Speaker 1: law firm. If we fought this, Mike. Now, we came
Speaker 1: up with the idea four weeks prior that we were
Speaker 1: we were going to have Tampa Bay T shirts. We
Speaker 1: tweeted it out, we built the shirt. How would we
Speaker 1: have done against a huge law firm. Well, I've never
Speaker 1: fully researched the issue, which means I don't know what
Speaker 1: the hell I'm about to say here, But that's the reality.
Speaker 1: Do you want to take on Tom Brady and the
Speaker 1: legal muscle that he would bring down on you? And
Speaker 1: I really do think I don't think Tom Brady has
Speaker 1: any desire to market Tampa Bay T shirts, wants to
Speaker 1: be able to tell everyone else not to plain and simple,
Speaker 1: so I would not take on hashtag ton All right, well,
Speaker 1: thank you for that sound league advice there, Axel, I'm massive.
Speaker 1: Whoa by the hair if the hair makes you you know,
Speaker 1: if I was giving you a hat, I'd give you
Speaker 1: a big hat between being trapped inside and not being
Speaker 1: very far away from the refrigerator not being able to
Speaker 1: get to the bar where I've probably added twenty pounds
Speaker 1: and eighteen of its hair. Your b J Rogie is
Speaker 1: what you're saying there. Thank you, Mike. That's Mike Floyo
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Speaker 1: thank you, congratulations. Joe, Dan and Ohio joins this. Hi Dan,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Hey, good morning Dan. I
Speaker 1: hope you're doing well. Yes, I just want to tell you, man,
Speaker 1: the Patrick Ewing interview was absolutely amazing. Never a big
Speaker 1: fan of Patrick playing, but listen to it and listening
Speaker 1: to him talk telling stories was great. Thank you. I
Speaker 1: wanted to let you know I started listening to your
Speaker 1: show just shortly after you guys started in two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight. I was driving eighty five thousand miles a year.
Speaker 1: You guys were in the car with me every day,
Speaker 1: keeping me sane and doing the same thing during this time.
Speaker 1: So I want to say thank you guys for all
Speaker 1: you're doing. Keep up the good work, much respect and
Speaker 1: much appreciate it. Thank you, Dan, safe travels. We appreciate
Speaker 1: that most regular season and playoff games played versus Michael Jordan,
Speaker 1: Patrick Ewing and Joe Dumars faced Michael Jordan's seventy times,
Speaker 1: Bill Laine bier in there at sixty six, Mark Jackson
Speaker 1: at sixty five, Isaiah Thomas at sixty five. Most career
Speaker 1: playoff games versus Michael Jordan, Patrick Ewing with twenty seven,
Speaker 1: Charles Oakley also twenty seven. That's why Patrick was a
Speaker 1: little apprehensive about coming on, because, as we all know,
Speaker 1: Michael always got the last word and he was always
Speaker 1: the one that was advancing. Certainly passed the New York Knicks.
Speaker 1: But I appreciate Patrick coming on. And there's certain guests
Speaker 1: you have on and if you're able to share what
Speaker 1: you know about them, you know, it's a gift that
Speaker 1: I love giving to people, where you say, hey, you're
Speaker 1: gonna want to listen to this interview. You may not
Speaker 1: know that much about you may have an opinion about
Speaker 1: this person. Patrick Ewing is one of those players personalities
Speaker 1: people that you're able to do that because you go
Speaker 1: that's Patrick Ewing, and he kept it himself, kept it
Speaker 1: to himself, Jimmy and Chicago joins us, and then we'll
Speaker 1: do this day in sports history. Hey Jimmy, Hey, Then
Speaker 1: you were talking earlier about who else should be on
Speaker 1: who should have been on the Dream Team? Isaiah definitely
Speaker 1: number one. I would say. I think it's because it
Speaker 1: was so recent that the year before that they lost
Speaker 1: to Chicago and they walked off the court. A little
Speaker 1: bit of karma's going back to him. But I was
Speaker 1: watching an interview he did on ESPN recently talking about it,
Speaker 1: and he almost for it's like and he wanted to
Speaker 1: do like break down and kim start crying, Like I
Speaker 1: think it's just so emotional for him, even after all
Speaker 1: these years to talk about it. It's just I think
Speaker 1: it gets even softer after this time. And then number two,
Speaker 1: definitely dot Nique. I think Dominique Wilkins is probably the
Speaker 1: most underrated player in NBA history, being wrapped off that
Speaker 1: off that team and the fifty greatest in ninety seven.
Speaker 1: I was to shake my head on that as well.
Speaker 1: So and then I feel like, yeah, this is his
Speaker 1: own coach coaching the team. Any thought on the team
Speaker 1: in ninety two that that was as hard for from
Speaker 1: my bed. And one thing I just wanted to add
Speaker 1: watching the first couple of episodes of the Last Dance
Speaker 1: was Jordan saying, how beat in Detroit almost was as
Speaker 1: gratifying as maybe even Winney the championship. That you're um
Speaker 1: that was like a wild moment for me. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, And thank you, Jimmy, thank you for those comments.
Speaker 1: Keep in mind Chuck Daly had quit retired, step down
Speaker 1: two months prior to coaching the Dream Team. He wasn't
Speaker 1: Isaiah's coach anymore, but he had been his coach. He
Speaker 1: didn't have to answer to anybody. But I I think
Speaker 1: you just used logic with this. Yeah, you don't have
Speaker 1: to say it, you already know it. People knew that
Speaker 1: Michael didn't like Isaiah. People knew that he didn't like
Speaker 1: the Pistons. And if I'm going to have Michael come
Speaker 1: over to my house, I'm having a party. He got Bird,
Speaker 1: I got Patrick Ewing, Molly's gonna be there, John Stockton's
Speaker 1: gonna be there, Chuck Daly's gonna be there. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't have to He doesn't have to say is
Speaker 1: Isaiah going to be there? I know not to invite
Speaker 1: Isaiah to a party if I'm gonna have Mike come over,
Speaker 1: That's all. It's like when you know the picture hits
Speaker 1: a batter, and then they're asked by the media after, Hey,
Speaker 1: did the manager order that? No, you knew what to do.
Speaker 1: He didn't have to tell you. That's how I think
Speaker 1: this played out. I feel bad for Isaiah because he's
Speaker 1: answering this. Now. You know, he has kids or grandkids,
Speaker 1: and then they want to know, why do people not
Speaker 1: like you, dad? Or why does Michael Jordan not like you? Back?
Speaker 1: Then you own it. Hey, Michael hates me so much
Speaker 1: that he doesn't have me on a dream team. I
Speaker 1: get it. But Isaiah brought some of this on himself. Okay,
Speaker 1: you can say Jordan's petty. Isaiah brought it on himself
Speaker 1: as well, all right, Paul, This Dane sports history. At
Speaker 1: nineteen o four, the third perfect game in Major League
Speaker 1: history is thrown by Cy Young of the Boston Red
Speaker 1: So later that year, he did not win the Cy
Speaker 1: Young Award. In two thousand and four, it was announced
Speaker 1: that Spider Man two ads would be digitally shown on
Speaker 1: bases in Major League Baseball games. The weekend of June
Speaker 1: eleventh and thirteenth, and it was like the next day
Speaker 1: the overallming negative reaction caused that plan to be canceled
Speaker 1: by Major League Baseball. Oh, I know we were on
Speaker 1: the air that way, Yeah, we were. I didn't help
Speaker 1: the commissioner's cause, as I said, what are you doing now?
Speaker 1: You did that? No? I didn't not. What did you
Speaker 1: learn today? Todd? Someone broke into Patrick rings home stole
Speaker 1: his gold medals? How could you do that? It's so sad?
Speaker 1: Really is mcclub and what did you learn today? Brooks
Speaker 1: Kepka said his buddy Bubba Watson wouldn't be able to
Speaker 1: carry his own bag. Seaton O'Connor Junior the third Paul
Speaker 1: is considering a twenty seven hour flight to go kick
Speaker 1: John in New Zealand. Paul, would you learn to the
Speaker 1: guys who stole Patrick Ewing's gold medals? I have a
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