Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong
Speaker 1: and Jetty and know he Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2: Whether you are moving closer you believe the US is
Speaker 2: moving closer to striking Iranian nuclear facilities?
Speaker 1: Where's your mindset on that?
Speaker 3: Say that right? You don't seriously think I'm going to
Speaker 3: answer that question? Will you strike the Iranian nuclear component?
Speaker 3: And what time exactly?
Speaker 1: Sir?
Speaker 3: Sir? Would you strike it? Would you please inform it
Speaker 3: so we can be there and watch. I mean, you
Speaker 3: don't know that I'm going to even do it. You
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: I may do it, I may not do it.
Speaker 3: I mean, nobody knows what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 4: A reasonably decent response, I think to what do you
Speaker 4: think I'm gonna tell you ahead of time?
Speaker 1: And what are we doing here? Yeah? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: traditionally that was I'm afraid I can't comment on that
Speaker 1: at this point. I left his answer better I do
Speaker 1: too serious? What am I going to tell you? What? Yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all tell you right away so you can be there
Speaker 1: and watch.
Speaker 4: So, if you follow any news, you've probably seen some
Speaker 4: clips of Ted Cruz being interviewed by Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 1: It's about two hours long. I watched the.
Speaker 4: Whole freaking thing, and except for a couple of spots,
Speaker 4: it wasn't hard to take in. It was a combination
Speaker 4: of interesting and entertaining. Let me see how many views
Speaker 4: it's got on it so far? Seven million views on
Speaker 4: his Twitter, and I know he gets multiples of that
Speaker 4: on his own website, where it's actually a little easier
Speaker 4: to watch, and I think YouTube has it also, so
Speaker 4: I don't know what the how many it'd be double
Speaker 4: digit millions. I'm sure it's over ten million people have
Speaker 4: watched it already. So Tucker Carlson has a style of
Speaker 4: arguing with people that is designed to make you insane,
Speaker 4: and some of that's on display here. Let's run through
Speaker 4: a little bit of Ted Cruz talking a Tucker.
Speaker 5: The reason is twofold number one is a Christian. Growing
Speaker 5: up in Sunday School, I was taught from the Bible
Speaker 5: those who bless Israel will be blessed, and those who
Speaker 5: curse Israel will be cursed. And from my perspective, I
Speaker 5: want to be on the blessing.
Speaker 6: Side of things, of those who bless the government of Israel.
Speaker 5: Those who bless Israel is what it says, doesn't say
Speaker 5: the government of it as the nation of Israel.
Speaker 7: So that's in the Bible. As a Christian, I believe that.
Speaker 1: Where is that?
Speaker 5: I can find it to you. I don't have the
Speaker 5: scripture off the tip of mine. You pull out the
Speaker 5: phone and use it.
Speaker 1: It's in Genesis.
Speaker 6: But so you're quoting a Bible phrase. You don't have
Speaker 6: context for it. You don't know where in the Bible it is.
Speaker 6: But that's like cri theology. I'm confused, what does that
Speaker 6: even mean?
Speaker 1: Perfect perfect example of Tucker's incredibly unfair.
Speaker 4: So that's your worldview. You don't know, you don't know
Speaker 4: where in the Bible that is. You don't you know
Speaker 4: which verse it is. But that's your.
Speaker 1: Worldview, no context. Oh the way, I thought that was
Speaker 1: fairly weak point by Ted Cruz. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, certainly criticize that in other ways, good faith ways,
Speaker 1: But I agree. Let's roll on with that line, Tucker.
Speaker 1: I'm a Christian. I want to know what you're talking about.
Speaker 5: Does where does my support for Israel come from? Number one,
Speaker 5: Because Biblically we are commanded to support Israel.
Speaker 1: But number two, no, hold on.
Speaker 6: You're a senator and now you're throwing out theology, and
Speaker 6: I am a Christian, I am allowed to weigh in
Speaker 6: on this. We are commanded as Christians support the government
Speaker 6: of Israel. We are commanded to support Israel. And what
Speaker 6: does that mean? We're told those who bless Israel be blessed.
Speaker 1: But what hold on? Define Israel?
Speaker 7: This is important.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding this majority Christian.
Speaker 5: Country to define Israel? Do you not know what Israel is?
Speaker 5: That would be the kind you have asked like forty
Speaker 5: nine questions about.
Speaker 6: So that's what Genesis, that's what God is talking in
Speaker 6: the nation of Israel. Yes, and he's so does that
Speaker 6: the current borders the current leadership. He's talking with the
Speaker 6: political instanity called Israel. He's talking about the nation of Israel.
Speaker 6: Yet nations exists, and he's discussing a nation. A nation
Speaker 6: was the people of Israel.
Speaker 1: He's the nation in Genesis.
Speaker 6: Is that the same as the country run by Benjamin
Speaker 6: Netya who raised.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes it is.
Speaker 5: And by the way, it's not run by Benjamin Netya,
Speaker 5: who is a dictator.
Speaker 7: It's it's a democratic But he's the prime minister.
Speaker 5: Right, but just just like you know, America is the
Speaker 5: country run by Donald Trump, not actually the American people
Speaker 5: elected Donald Trump.
Speaker 7: The same principle of sicily.
Speaker 4: Plenty of unfair to go around, because I know, exhausting.
Speaker 4: I don't buy Ted Cruz's the Israel of Genesis can
Speaker 4: be transferred directly to the nation that we support sometimes
Speaker 4: note support sometimes I mean it seems.
Speaker 1: Like half elite.
Speaker 4: But you did say run by Benjamin Nett and Yahoo.
Speaker 4: And then when he says Benjamin, I didn't say it
Speaker 4: was a dictator.
Speaker 7: What of that?
Speaker 1: Right? He implies something unmistakably, then denies vehemently that he'd
Speaker 1: implied it a pox on both their houses. So far, well, so.
Speaker 4: The thing I took away mostly from it was, uh, Tucker,
Speaker 4: going back to a number of times, we have drug
Speaker 4: addicts dying in the streets, So why are we giving
Speaker 4: so much money to Ukraine and Israel? And I just
Speaker 4: do not understand that woke right point of view that
Speaker 4: they're connected in any way, or that what is our
Speaker 4: obligation to drug addicts dying in the street.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even understand that. Well, there
Speaker 1: are multiple layers of not persuasive to that number one,
Speaker 1: it's just a plain false choice either support Ukraine or
Speaker 1: help drug addicts in the streets. It's a false choice.
Speaker 1: There are a thousand of million different programs, different priorities,
Speaker 1: different areas where waste, fraud, and abuse happened, that we
Speaker 1: could free up the money if we if we were
Speaker 1: motivated to. The second layer is you're making a really
Speaker 1: good point. It's what are you gonna do? What do
Speaker 1: you what do you so? Even if I accepted your
Speaker 1: false choice, what's your plan? What are you gonna use
Speaker 1: the money for?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's we in California have thrown tens of billions
Speaker 4: of dollars at this and ended up with more drug
Speaker 4: addicts on the street.
Speaker 1: It just strikes me as an argument for dumb people.
Speaker 1: You want to emphasize domestic concerns over international concerns. That's
Speaker 1: that's fine. I get that that's a perfectly sound argument.
Speaker 1: But then or or a point of view, I happen
Speaker 1: to disagree with it for reasons that we've stated many times.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm reminded the old saying you might not
Speaker 1: be interested in politics, but believe me, politics is interested
Speaker 1: in you. You might not be interested in the rest
Speaker 1: of the world. But believe me, they're interested in us
Speaker 1: and our stuff and our freedom of navigation and our
Speaker 1: trade and the rest of it, in our land and
Speaker 1: our resources. And so I just what do you suggest, Well,
Speaker 1: it's just it's a false choice and it's silly.
Speaker 4: We played this one earlier, but it is so freaking
Speaker 4: good and it contains one of my favorite phrases that
Speaker 4: I'll probably use the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: They were discussing.
Speaker 4: Tucker was accusing Ted Cruz of taking money from a
Speaker 4: variety of lobby groups that lobby on behalf of Israel,
Speaker 4: and so then saying Ted Cruise is in the pocket
Speaker 4: of Israel and does their bidding.
Speaker 1: And that sort of thing. That's where we are on this.
Speaker 6: It's just interesting because what you're now describing in a
Speaker 6: very defensive way, I will say, is foreign influence over
Speaker 6: our politics. Now, and you began and it's so transparently
Speaker 6: obvious to everybody. I don't know why you would be embarrassed,
Speaker 6: but you've said that you are sincerely for Israel.
Speaker 1: I believe you.
Speaker 6: I don't think you have some weird agenda you seem
Speaker 6: to by the.
Speaker 5: Way, Tucker, it's a very weird thing, the obsession with Israel. Well,
Speaker 5: we're talking about for it. You're not talking about Chinese,
Speaker 5: you're not talking about Japanese, you're not talking about the Brits,
Speaker 5: you're not talking about the French.
Speaker 7: The question what about the Jews? What about the Jews?
Speaker 1: Like I'm anti semi now.
Speaker 7: Senator, you're just in the JEWETU Tucker.
Speaker 5: You're asking why are the Jews controlling our foreign polity?
Speaker 6: That's what you just asked, hardly saying that, and I
Speaker 6: have that that's exactly what you just said. Well, actually,
Speaker 6: I can speak for myself and tell you what I
Speaker 6: am said on behalf, not simply of myself, but on
Speaker 6: my many Jewish friends who would have the same questions,
Speaker 6: which is to what extent? And it's interesting you're trying
Speaker 6: to derail my questions by following me an anti semi,
Speaker 6: which you are.
Speaker 7: I did not, of course you are, and.
Speaker 6: And rather than be honorable enough to say it right
Speaker 6: to my face, I are city squeezy feline way implying it. Well,
Speaker 6: just asking questions about the Jews, I'm not questions about
Speaker 6: the Jews.
Speaker 1: I have. There's nothing to do with Jews or Judis
Speaker 1: when it has to a foreign government.
Speaker 5: He is an Israel controlling our foreign policy. That's not
Speaker 5: about the you said.
Speaker 1: I'm asked. By the way, you're the one.
Speaker 7: That just called me I think a sleezy felie.
Speaker 4: And that happens really early in the two hour discussion,
Speaker 4: so they both bring up the other person's insults regularly
Speaker 4: through the call. You keep calling me and in I
Speaker 4: saim I, no, I didn't you called me a sleezy feline.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like I'm overhearing like a really bitter,
Speaker 1: stupid argument, like it's a food court at a mall
Speaker 1: or something. And I keep thinking, all right, I gotta go.
Speaker 1: I can't keep listening to this. Maybe just maybe thirty
Speaker 1: more seconds.
Speaker 4: There was some reason Ted Cruz was willing to engage
Speaker 4: in this for two hours though. It's a lot to
Speaker 4: commit to an interview, and he had to keep saying
Speaker 4: to Tucker, look, can you be a little less condescending?
Speaker 4: Could you be a little less snarky with everything I say?
Speaker 4: You know, I wish we had some examples to continue
Speaker 4: to sit there. Well, it was usually when Tucker would
Speaker 4: just make noises, you know, like right, you.
Speaker 1: Know that sort of stuff, and say, do you need
Speaker 1: to be so snarky. Yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 4: I'm willing to talk about this as long as you
Speaker 4: want and discuss the issues.
Speaker 1: But I think.
Speaker 4: I think Ted Cruz, and I mean I'm not being
Speaker 4: crass about this. I think he actually sees the division
Speaker 4: in the Republican Party. He's probably going to run for
Speaker 4: president against JD. Vance and try to get the nomination.
Speaker 4: He finished second to Trump when he ran in sixteen.
Speaker 4: I mean, he was the last man standing other than Trump.
Speaker 4: I think he wants to continue to be able to
Speaker 4: reach that Tucker crowd, maybe the JD. Vance crowd, while
Speaker 4: bringing along whoever else to get the nomination. That's the
Speaker 4: only reason I can think that he would put up
Speaker 4: with the snarkiness and the condensation for two hours.
Speaker 1: Did did it get to substance in a satisfying way?
Speaker 1: At times? I mean, because what's frustrating to me and
Speaker 1: listening to these clips is that they will touch on
Speaker 1: an interesting point, but one or both of them, mostly Tucker,
Speaker 1: but both of them will not. They will try to
Speaker 1: score rhetorical points as opposed to saying, Okay, if I
Speaker 1: hear you correctly, you're advocating this. Here's why where I
Speaker 1: think you're wrong. Well, it's just sword play between the
Speaker 1: two a couple of guys. That's not cool.
Speaker 4: I went into it leaning toward Ted Cruz anyway, and
Speaker 4: I don't I definitely don't always agree with Ted Cruz.
Speaker 4: When he first came on the scene, read from his book,
Speaker 4: thought it was fantastic, but then he got corrupted by
Speaker 4: you know, DC and everything that happens where you got
Speaker 4: to start playing the game to stay in office, and
Speaker 4: he's done all kinds of things that I hate.
Speaker 1: But I was on his side going into this interview.
Speaker 4: So and it felt to me like any attempt to
Speaker 4: get to any substance.
Speaker 1: Always got derailed by Tucker. Tucker is the greatest at
Speaker 1: baiting you into tangents on things, and then you're arguing
Speaker 1: about the tangent, right, He's like, you know, getting back
Speaker 1: to the sword fighting a metaphor and I mean that literally. Uh.
Speaker 1: He senses when you are at all a rhetorical threat
Speaker 1: to you, and that's when he employs his various trickery.
Speaker 1: What do you mean by threat if you're just threatening me?
Speaker 1: Is that what you're doing is what you're doing threat? Well,
Speaker 1: you just said threat, would you like to rewind the tape.
Speaker 1: And by the way, why are you being so defensive?
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, You've gotten very, very defensive, And
Speaker 1: I just wonder I must have hit a hot spot
Speaker 1: with you or something to be so defensive and then
Speaker 1: to threaten me. You're a graduate of the Tucker Carlson
Speaker 1: school of bullying. He's really skillful, all of them. I
Speaker 1: was just I was taking all that in and thinking
Speaker 1: this would be so easy to do, and so then
Speaker 1: right there, you'd be defending yourself for the next five minutes.
Speaker 1: I didn't threaten you, you just did. I think we
Speaker 1: all heard it. We all heard you threaten me well,
Speaker 1: and not only that, I don't even remember what we
Speaker 1: were talking. Yes, exactly, yes, wow, he is so good
Speaker 1: at that. Well done. And then he constantly why are
Speaker 1: you getting so defensive? I'm just I'm just I'm curious.
Speaker 1: I'm just because you're attacking me over and over again. Dull.
Speaker 7: He just called I think a sleazy feline.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh my god, it'd be easy to do. If
Speaker 1: you want to make enemies for life.
Speaker 4: It would be very easy to engage in conversations like
Speaker 4: that with your friends.
Speaker 1: In years since you've been punched in the face, and
Speaker 1: you think that might be enjoyable. Right, more on the way,
Speaker 1: are you like Tucker? You stay here?
Speaker 4: I was looking at the text line. A number of
Speaker 4: people really enjoyed my Tucker Carlson impersonation. It's very easy
Speaker 4: to do. You just pick a word or a phrase,
Speaker 4: you take it out of context, you try to put
Speaker 4: them on the defensive, and you get really really quiet
Speaker 4: and contemplative while they get madder and madder and.
Speaker 1: Hop from angled angled, angle right right, so nobody can
Speaker 1: follow what you're even talking about, and then you laugh
Speaker 1: like that. So on a related topic, we got an email,
Speaker 1: a number of emails about the decision whether to join
Speaker 1: Israel in attacking Aroun's nuclear program. That sort of thing,
Speaker 1: including justin the truck driver got a lot of attention,
Speaker 1: had a handful of emails in reaction to that, including
Speaker 1: this from Frank now Our two yesterday he aired an
Speaker 1: anti Semitic and ageist screed from a listener. I know
Speaker 1: you aired it in an effort to demonstrate you listen
Speaker 1: to a variety of points of view, which is not
Speaker 1: a bad thing to do. Well, that's only part of
Speaker 1: the reason we read it. It was also partly just
Speaker 1: to let you or that point of view to know
Speaker 1: what we're dealing with. But in this case, I think
Speaker 1: you went too far. His Odie's views, totally void of
Speaker 1: logic and historical context and informed by hatred, did not
Speaker 1: deserve your platform. Thank you for your input. Frank Justin,
Speaker 1: the truck driver from Sacramento responds in a way with
Speaker 1: a follow up wisdom of under thirty people explained because
Speaker 1: they know better than older people. The Internet, for all
Speaker 1: its problems, has done one thing very well, open up
Speaker 1: the marketplace of ideas. Previously taboo subjects like Zionism and
Speaker 1: Jewish power are openly discussed. Boomers and younger Gen xers
Speaker 1: are reflexively allergic to this topic and instantly becomes snowflakes,
Speaker 1: calling anyone who talks about this subject hateful, anti Semitic,
Speaker 1: and Nazis. And then he goes on for a couple
Speaker 1: of paragraphs explaining how the Jews seek to control the other,
Speaker 1: the entire earth and actually hate Christians in the United States. Oh,
Speaker 1: if that's not what anti Semitic is, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what the term means.
Speaker 4: I got this ze guy complaining about us yesterday kept
Speaker 4: calling this bomers.
Speaker 1: We are gen xers. Yes, proudly so, Robin Beautiful Kentucky writes,
Speaker 1: Justin asserts that men under thirty have a clearer understanding
Speaker 1: the boomer. Then Boomer's an older gen x of the
Speaker 1: state which the world currently finds it Selfie then goes
Speaker 1: on unto subtly to doubt what I consider the basis
Speaker 1: of most deep state and puppet master conspiracy theories, the
Speaker 1: protocols of the Elders of Zion, the fake document of
Speaker 1: the supposed Jewish plot to take over the world. And
Speaker 1: I would say that he's right in that people, not
Speaker 1: just men under thirty, are more susceptible to such nonsense
Speaker 1: because they're raised with the Internet, which makes such garbage
Speaker 1: easily available to the weak minded. Before the Internet, one
Speaker 1: would actually have to seek out such information. But now,
Speaker 1: with just a couple of clicks, you can sit in
Speaker 1: front of a screen and have all the twaddle you
Speaker 1: want fed directly to you. It's truly sad that these
Speaker 1: people think of themselves as being open minded or in
Speaker 1: the know, when reality they're just tools for content creators
Speaker 1: to get clicks. Woo twattle.
Speaker 4: I say, here's a little breaking news if it's true,
Speaker 4: CNN says Steve Bannet was seen walking into the White
Speaker 4: House this morning. Who would be talking to Steve Bannon.
Speaker 4: It's almost gotta be Trump, right, Probably he wants the
Speaker 4: Bannon point of view on all this. If he takes
Speaker 4: the Bannon point of view, we ain't bombing might be
Speaker 4: the opposite.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned, Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 6: I'm asking about your allegation in the Prime Minister of
Speaker 6: Israel's allegation that.
Speaker 5: Killing terrorists is a good thing. Killing people are trying
Speaker 5: to murder Americans is a good thing because if you're
Speaker 5: America first, you want to protect Americans. So taking up
Speaker 5: killing O'samovan Laden was a fantastic But you don't believe
Speaker 5: that they're trying to murder Trump?
Speaker 1: Or yes't it? Yes? But why aren't you calling for
Speaker 1: military action against Tehran right now?
Speaker 5: Because they're not very effective in terms of hitmen. They're hitmen,
Speaker 5: are not very effective, I do think so.
Speaker 6: They're hitman, but not the bad kind, the efficient cond
Speaker 6: What they're saying.
Speaker 7: That they're a weak country who is on its knees,
Speaker 7: and I think we need.
Speaker 6: To and why are we so afraid of them? Why
Speaker 6: are they the biggest threat if they're a week tree that's.
Speaker 5: On sneeze because they're trying trying to keep track, they're
Speaker 5: trying to develop. Be a little less snarky. I know
Speaker 5: you're right, that is a problem that I have. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Katie your response. He's just such a dick He's good
Speaker 1: at it.
Speaker 4: Ted did a good job of staying pretty calm through
Speaker 4: the whole thing.
Speaker 1: That is world class dickery right there. I mean, I
Speaker 1: thought it.
Speaker 4: Was a decent point Tucker was making. So it got
Speaker 4: into the hole and net Yahoo the other day saying
Speaker 4: Iran was behind two assassination attempts on Donald Trump. And
Speaker 4: when I heard that, I thought, what, No, they weren't.
Speaker 4: And then he kind of fudged it a little when
Speaker 4: he was asked about that Iran has been trying to
Speaker 4: kill Don Trump. That is true and is known, but
Speaker 4: they weren't find those two attacks.
Speaker 1: But so I heard that exchange. Yeah, net Yao, who
Speaker 1: was trying to hint darkly but it didn't happen, didn't
Speaker 1: come on.
Speaker 4: But then so Ted Cruz and Tucker got into that
Speaker 4: conversation and Ted crew said, yes, it's well known Iran
Speaker 4: is trying to kill the president of the United States
Speaker 4: and has you know, has sent people over probably in
Speaker 4: the United States. And Tucker's thing was, if they're trying
Speaker 4: to kill the president the United States and we know that,
Speaker 4: why aren't we bombing them already? I mean, you talk
Speaker 4: about an act of war, you're trying to kill the
Speaker 4: president of the United States.
Speaker 1: So that that's what that whole conversation was about. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: fair enough, But again, no, I'm not even going to
Speaker 1: engage in his bad faith arguments, so waste of time.
Speaker 1: Could you be a little less snarky? He said, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, I probably. Yeah. That was an utterly insincere
Speaker 1: apology too. It was it was more sarcasm, more snark obnoxious.
Speaker 1: So you were, as we went to break the last segment,
Speaker 1: concerned that, Yeah, so Bannon's a trip to the White
Speaker 1: House might portend what two interesting things.
Speaker 4: So Tucker mentions in his two hour long interview with
Speaker 4: Ted Cruz that I listened to the whole thing of they
Speaker 4: got into who likes Trump the most? And Tucker said,
Speaker 4: I talked to him last night for a long time,
Speaker 4: and I thought, wow, that's interesting. So that was Monday
Speaker 4: or Tuesday night. He was on the phone with Trump,
Speaker 4: who called him kookie Tucker Carlson, and then the CNN's
Speaker 4: reporting that Steve Bannon was seen walking into the White.
Speaker 1: House this morning.
Speaker 4: I assume to talk to Trump. I don't know who
Speaker 4: else would be talking to Steve Bannon. So is Trump
Speaker 4: looking for a final Hey, Steve Bannon, explain to me
Speaker 4: why this is a bad idea from somebody?
Speaker 1: Or no, the opposite. So Trump is not looking for
Speaker 1: advice from those people. He's telling him what time it is.
Speaker 1: In a situation where Marjorie Taylor Green and AOC are
Speaker 1: singing from the same page of music, which is really something,
Speaker 1: and President Trump's political bait is at least somewhat divided
Speaker 1: over the prospect that the US could join Israel's assault.
Speaker 1: The White House is trying to tamp that down. In
Speaker 1: a recent days, White House officials have quietly reached out
Speaker 1: to MAGA influencers, according to people familiar, aiming to explain
Speaker 1: Trump's possible shift away from a diplomatic solution. They're trying
Speaker 1: to get them on the reservation.
Speaker 4: Okay, So he was talking to Tucker Carls on the
Speaker 4: phone to say, look, Tucker, this is why we got
Speaker 4: to do it.
Speaker 1: Right, and you got to quit your yap. And you
Speaker 1: think he's doing the same with Steve Bannon this morning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I suspect so yeah, and I'll bet he or jdvans
Speaker 1: Er somebody is hammer and MTG two.
Speaker 4: So you said that they're singing from the same playbook,
Speaker 4: but you didn't say what their song is. They're both
Speaker 4: Marjorie Taylor Green and AOC against bombing Iran.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't get involved in a Middle Eastern war. Yeah. Indeed,
Speaker 1: in fact, MTG I can't remember what she looks like.
Speaker 1: Do you have any police line bad built bush body?
Speaker 1: Oh that's her, right, She tweeted the other day. Anyone
Speaker 1: slobbering for the US to become fully involved in the
Speaker 1: Israel Iran war is not America first slash MAGA appearing
Speaker 1: on Matt Gates television show Wait a minute, Matt Gates
Speaker 1: has a television show anyway, So when the kids get
Speaker 1: out of school, oh boy, uh da da da, Green
Speaker 1: said a Middle Eastern war will pull America back twenty years.
Speaker 4: I am pretty amazed by the people that are willing
Speaker 4: to believe that MAGA is its own separate thing where
Speaker 4: you can bad mouth Trump's decisions and we're our own
Speaker 4: power base. I don't think that's true. I guess we'll
Speaker 4: find out in the next couple of years. I think
Speaker 4: Maggot is Trump.
Speaker 1: I would disagree subtly. I think it is a fairly
Speaker 1: cohesive interest group or a group of voters and writers
Speaker 1: and thinkers in the same way like the open Border's
Speaker 1: crowd is. And I'm not saying one is as big
Speaker 1: as the other, bigger or whatever, or the gay rights
Speaker 1: crowd is, or it's a belief it's a belief system.
Speaker 1: It's kind of I don't know.
Speaker 4: I guess we'll see in coming elections. I don't think
Speaker 4: they'll win any elections. Well, they haven't when unless Trump
Speaker 4: is on the ticket to bring that crowd along. It's
Speaker 4: like Obama. I mean, Obama could win elections because he
Speaker 4: was so popular, but nobody could nobody when he wasn't
Speaker 4: on the ticket.
Speaker 1: It didn't make any difference. Yeah. Yeah. By the way,
Speaker 1: the White House also reached out to Charlie Kirk conservative
Speaker 1: activist Bannon clearly and in this article, I'm looking at mentions.
Speaker 1: Mark Levin doesn't mention Ben Shapiro, but I know a
Speaker 1: lot of your woke write types say, yeah, those people
Speaker 1: are just spouting the talking points of the Jews because
Speaker 1: they're about Israel. They're not about the United States, which
Speaker 1: is a hell of a thing to say about Mark
Speaker 1: Levin for instance. Also, and you know what, I've got
Speaker 1: to be fair, Matt Gates, in talking to MTG said
Speaker 1: President Trump rescued the Republican Party from the doom of
Speaker 1: neo conservatism. I think it's a fair question to ask
Speaker 1: those folks who want to entangle themselves in an Iranian war,
Speaker 1: what's your plan for the day after?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's always a good one, that's absolutely necessary.
Speaker 1: Sometimes people ask questions like they're rhetorical questions. It's not
Speaker 1: a rhetorical question. It's a fine question, and I think
Speaker 1: Trump would be willing to answer it. I think the
Speaker 1: question is less.
Speaker 4: Needed now than it was a obviously Iraq or you know,
Speaker 4: you know, eliminating Hamas and Gaza, then who's going to
Speaker 4: run it. You can't let Iran get a nuclear weapon,
Speaker 4: the end is I think Trump's opinion in my opinion
Speaker 4: on that, And yeah, looking at the next day is
Speaker 4: a very good idea, and should plan is best you can.
Speaker 4: But no matter what the answer to that is, they
Speaker 4: can't have a nuclear weapon. You can't let them have
Speaker 4: a nuclear weapon because you haven't answered the question what's next?
Speaker 1: Right. It reminds me in a weird way of our
Speaker 1: discussion through the decades about illegal immigration, and especially back
Speaker 1: in the day in cal Unicornia, people would say, as
Speaker 1: if they're asking a rhetorical question and a powerful, devastating question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who's going to pick the lettuce? And we crafted the
Speaker 1: answer somebody or nobody or a machine. If lettuce picking
Speaker 1: is the tail that wags the entire dog of the
Speaker 1: United States, were screwed. You've got to enforce the law.
Speaker 1: The one non negotiable is we've got to have coherent
Speaker 1: immigration policy and we've got to follow it. And if
Speaker 1: it ends up that nobody picks the lettuce and we
Speaker 1: all have to eat kale instead, or let us just
Speaker 1: triple the expense or whatever, that's just the one possibility
Speaker 1: or the one option is untenable. It's unacceptable. That is
Speaker 1: what we meant. Same way, the one unacceptable option is
Speaker 1: the freaking Mullahs having a nuclear bomb and the desire
Speaker 1: to wipe out humanity in the name of their Islamist vision.
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, some of you probably remember my
Speaker 4: one man play, A World without Lettuce.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 4: It ran briefly, it closed very quickly. It just didn't
Speaker 4: catch on. I think it needed some songs.
Speaker 1: I urge you to rewrite. I should have made it
Speaker 1: as musical and retro as opposed to. Yeah, so that's
Speaker 1: interesting that Trump feels like he needs to convince Steve
Speaker 1: Bannon and Tucker Carlson before he does this. I wrote
Speaker 1: you a song Bacon, Nothing and Tomato, which you rejected.
Speaker 1: I'll remind you the BNT. Yes, I'll have a BNT
Speaker 1: where And this is the moment in the show Joe
Speaker 1: could no longer talk about this stuff seriously.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, that's true. But uh hmm, interesting, I'll be darned.
Speaker 4: Trump has been risked on both the risks and benefits
Speaker 4: of bombing fodoh, according to CBS News, Yeah, I assumed that,
Speaker 4: and his mindset is that disabling it is necessary because
Speaker 4: of the risk of weapons being produced in a relatively
Speaker 4: short period of time. Sources say, so he seems to
Speaker 4: have been he's completely convinced.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right. I'm sorry. I had one more thing
Speaker 1: I wanted to throw in about Steve Bennon, specifically, He
Speaker 1: said yesterday that Trump really needs to articulate his views
Speaker 1: not just a MAGA but to the American people of
Speaker 1: why we would get involved in another war over there
Speaker 1: as a combatant. So that was Bennon sending a message
Speaker 1: to Trump, who apparently, excuse me, called for Bennon to
Speaker 1: come to the White House to talk to him. But
Speaker 1: Bannon also said this, and this is yesterday before coming
Speaker 1: to the White House today. He called on supporters to
Speaker 1: pray for Trump, and he predicted that the MAGA movement
Speaker 1: wouldn't fully splinter over ran quote. We don't like it,
Speaker 1: maybe we hate it, but you know, we'll get on board.
Speaker 1: He said, Oh that was pretty get along, ye by
Speaker 1: his standards. Yeah, yeah, there will be no mutiny on
Speaker 1: the good ship MAGA. According to Steve Bannon, did he
Speaker 1: walk into the White House looking like a half a
Speaker 1: homeless person? Probably? Yeah, we will finish wrong next.
Speaker 4: Whoopie Goldberg on the View just said black people in
Speaker 4: America have it as bad as women in Iran. So
Speaker 4: that's helpful on this Juneteenth. Why she's a moron, she's
Speaker 4: mon or she's being deliberately provocative in a really not
Speaker 4: healthy way.
Speaker 1: Does she need the money or the attention. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's on. Speaking of getting attention, Tulsy Gabberd, who I
Speaker 1: have called a crackpot, among other things, a clip of
Speaker 1: her from a hearing congressional hearing in March was getting
Speaker 1: a lot of attention this week in which she essentially denied.
Speaker 1: She said, according to intelligence, Iran does not have a
Speaker 1: nuke or blah blah, we're not to play it for you, right,
Speaker 1: we're about to play it for you. But then the
Speaker 1: clip generally after about eighteen seconds ends, and what she
Speaker 1: said next I thought was really interesting too. So this
Speaker 1: is both halves of it together.
Speaker 2: The ICY continues to assess that Iran is not building
Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader Kamani has not authorized
Speaker 2: the nuclear weapons program that he suspended in two thousand
Speaker 2: and three. The ICY continues to monitor closely if Tehran
Speaker 2: decides to reauthorize its nuclear weapons program. In the past year,
Speaker 2: we've seen an erosion of a decade's long taboo in
Speaker 2: Iran on discussing nuclear weapons in public, likely emboldening nuclear
Speaker 2: weapons advocates within Iran's decision making apparatus. Iran's enriched uranium
Speaker 2: stockpile is at its highest levels and is unprecedented for
Speaker 2: a state without nuclear weapons.
Speaker 1: Hm, that is interesting. Why did people leave that It's
Speaker 1: not as dramatic. Maybe they were trying to say, I
Speaker 1: don't know. They might have had a couple of different purposes.
Speaker 4: And was that for the crowd that's trying to work,
Speaker 4: they're not close to a nuke, that's just Netanyahu trying
Speaker 4: to stay in office crowd.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, But and then the crowd that thinks Tulsey's
Speaker 1: a crackpot and or shouldn't be in the administration floated
Speaker 1: that to look at the division within Trump world.
Speaker 4: Well, but in reality, her boss, the President, was asked
Speaker 4: what he thought of what she had to say, and
Speaker 4: he said, I don't care what she thinks. And she
Speaker 4: wasn't in. She isn't in these security meetings. You don't
Speaker 4: have your director of National Intelligence in the big meetings.
Speaker 4: That is a heck of a deal. I don't know
Speaker 4: how you don't resign under those circumstances.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, me too. I don't know what the DNI
Speaker 1: does day to day.
Speaker 4: It is a is another layer added after nine to
Speaker 4: eleven unnecessary. People always think you got to fix things
Speaker 4: with more layers of people in government and offices.
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's unnecessary. There's definitely the danger
Speaker 1: of what you're suggesting, but it could be like ten people.
Speaker 1: And just because it's an umbrella organization meant to make
Speaker 1: sure that the CIA is sharing with the FBI, who
Speaker 1: is sharing with the NSA, was sharing with the d
Speaker 1: i A make sure they're not siloed. Stove piping Jack described,
Speaker 1: others have described it.
Speaker 4: I was listening to Ken Pollock being interviewed, and he's
Speaker 4: been in the intelligence agencies forever. I was listening to
Speaker 4: him on a podcast yesterday and it came up and
Speaker 4: he said, the DNA d and I was created. It
Speaker 4: doesn't really have a purpose. It's it's it's hard to
Speaker 4: figure out what they're supposed to be doing.
Speaker 1: So right, that's what I thought, and I was glad
Speaker 1: to hear him say that. It's funny. I forgot my
Speaker 1: own point. I was driving toward the idea that, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't need Tulsi Gabbard in the meetings because
Speaker 1: she's not the CIA. She's just the person who makes
Speaker 1: sure the CIA is sharing with the FBON. Right, so
Speaker 1: you have the CIA and the FBI in.
Speaker 4: There, Yeah, that makes sense. Of course, having the president
Speaker 4: say I don't care what you think.
Speaker 1: This is not a good looks. I'm strong, You're ready.
Speaker 1: Katie Green's strong.
Speaker 4: I mean I've been told I don't care what you think,
Speaker 4: and I found it hurtful.
Speaker 1: Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty. Hey, let's
Speaker 1: get a final thought from everybody on the crew, because
Speaker 1: we care what they think deeply. Let's begin with Michaelangelo
Speaker 1: or technical director. Michael final thought, Yes, support your kids
Speaker 1: lemonade stands.
Speaker 7: Anytime I see a little lemonade stand in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: I pull over Igimo dollar two.
Speaker 5: So I will say, though, the quality of lemonade is
Speaker 5: always suspect.
Speaker 1: So I've had some good stuff and I've had stuff
Speaker 1: that I've had to spit out the windows.
Speaker 4: When Henry did his a couple of years ago, him
Speaker 4: and his buddy, they were fresh squeezed, actual lemons from
Speaker 4: the trees.
Speaker 1: It was really good. Oh gimme, Katie Green are esteemed duswoman.
Speaker 1: As a final thought, Katie, I think you guys will
Speaker 1: be thrilled to know that the band name Ambiguous Genitalia
Speaker 1: is up for grabs, not taken yet let's kick out
Speaker 1: the jams. Huh jack. A final thought, how long well
Speaker 1: my son and I last at a Dodgers game when
Speaker 1: neither one of us are that interested? Do you think
Speaker 1: there's enough of the old ballpark just between the food
Speaker 1: and the vibe to keep you entertained for a while? Sure?
Speaker 1: Watching people watching? Yeah, you're exactly right, I would hope.
Speaker 1: So I have two final thoughts. This is unprecedented. Number One,
Speaker 1: I've called Telsea Gabbert to crank, definition and eccentric person,
Speaker 1: especially one who was obsessed by a particular subject or theory. Okay,
Speaker 1: I see is a crank. And also, streaming is king
Speaker 1: May this past May last month, first time ever Americans
Speaker 1: watching television being streamed outnumbered cable and network TV combined.
Speaker 4: I'm actually surprised he took this long for that line
Speaker 4: to be crossed. Armstrong and Getty rare. I think about
Speaker 4: another grueling four hour workday.
Speaker 1: So many people thanks a little time go to Armstrong
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Speaker 1: Trust me on that. Will we be at war by
Speaker 1: this time tomorrow? God bless America. I'm strong and Getty.
Speaker 1: There are two ways to look at this Where shade
Speaker 1: are you? This is a national emergency. Come on, you weenies,
Speaker 1: grow up.
Speaker 7: Okay for those of you that don't understand.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me say. Let me say one thing.
Speaker 6: You're a senator who's calling them about the country.
Speaker 7: No, you don't know anything about the country yet I know.
Speaker 1: Thank you for your attention to this matter. Armstrong and
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