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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong

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Speaker 1: and Jetty and know he Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 2: Whether you are moving closer you believe the US is

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Speaker 2: moving closer to striking Iranian nuclear facilities?

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Speaker 1: Where's your mindset on that?

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Speaker 3: Say that right? You don't seriously think I'm going to

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Speaker 3: answer that question? Will you strike the Iranian nuclear component?

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Speaker 3: And what time exactly?

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Speaker 1: Sir?

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Speaker 3: Sir? Would you strike it? Would you please inform it

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Speaker 3: so we can be there and watch. I mean, you

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Speaker 3: don't know that I'm going to even do it. You

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Speaker 3: don't know.

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Speaker 1: I may do it, I may not do it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, nobody knows what I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 4: A reasonably decent response, I think to what do you

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Speaker 4: think I'm gonna tell you ahead of time?

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Speaker 1: And what are we doing here? Yeah? Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: traditionally that was I'm afraid I can't comment on that

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Speaker 1: at this point. I left his answer better I do

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Speaker 1: too serious? What am I going to tell you? What? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: y'all tell you right away so you can be there

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Speaker 1: and watch.

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Speaker 4: So, if you follow any news, you've probably seen some

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Speaker 4: clips of Ted Cruz being interviewed by Tucker Carlson.

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Speaker 1: It's about two hours long. I watched the.

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Speaker 4: Whole freaking thing, and except for a couple of spots,

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Speaker 4: it wasn't hard to take in. It was a combination

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Speaker 4: of interesting and entertaining. Let me see how many views

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Speaker 4: it's got on it so far? Seven million views on

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Speaker 4: his Twitter, and I know he gets multiples of that

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Speaker 4: on his own website, where it's actually a little easier

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Speaker 4: to watch, and I think YouTube has it also, so

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the how many it'd be double

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Speaker 4: digit millions. I'm sure it's over ten million people have

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Speaker 4: watched it already. So Tucker Carlson has a style of

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Speaker 4: arguing with people that is designed to make you insane,

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Speaker 4: and some of that's on display here. Let's run through

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Speaker 4: a little bit of Ted Cruz talking a Tucker.

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Speaker 5: The reason is twofold number one is a Christian. Growing

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Speaker 5: up in Sunday School, I was taught from the Bible

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Speaker 5: those who bless Israel will be blessed, and those who

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Speaker 5: curse Israel will be cursed. And from my perspective, I

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Speaker 5: want to be on the blessing.

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Speaker 6: Side of things, of those who bless the government of Israel.

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Speaker 5: Those who bless Israel is what it says, doesn't say

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Speaker 5: the government of it as the nation of Israel.

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Speaker 7: So that's in the Bible. As a Christian, I believe that.

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Speaker 1: Where is that?

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Speaker 5: I can find it to you. I don't have the

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Speaker 5: scripture off the tip of mine. You pull out the

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Speaker 5: phone and use it.

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Speaker 1: It's in Genesis.

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Speaker 6: But so you're quoting a Bible phrase. You don't have

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Speaker 6: context for it. You don't know where in the Bible it is.

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Speaker 6: But that's like cri theology. I'm confused, what does that

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Speaker 6: even mean?

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Speaker 1: Perfect perfect example of Tucker's incredibly unfair.

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Speaker 4: So that's your worldview. You don't know, you don't know

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Speaker 4: where in the Bible that is. You don't you know

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Speaker 4: which verse it is. But that's your.

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Speaker 1: Worldview, no context. Oh the way, I thought that was

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Speaker 1: fairly weak point by Ted Cruz. But yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree, certainly criticize that in other ways, good faith ways,

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Speaker 1: But I agree. Let's roll on with that line, Tucker.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Christian. I want to know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 5: Does where does my support for Israel come from? Number one,

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Speaker 5: Because Biblically we are commanded to support Israel.

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Speaker 1: But number two, no, hold on.

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Speaker 6: You're a senator and now you're throwing out theology, and

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Speaker 6: I am a Christian, I am allowed to weigh in

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Speaker 6: on this. We are commanded as Christians support the government

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Speaker 6: of Israel. We are commanded to support Israel. And what

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Speaker 6: does that mean? We're told those who bless Israel be blessed.

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Speaker 1: But what hold on? Define Israel?

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Speaker 7: This is important.

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding this majority Christian.

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Speaker 5: Country to define Israel? Do you not know what Israel is?

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Speaker 5: That would be the kind you have asked like forty

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Speaker 6: So that's what Genesis, that's what God is talking in

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Speaker 6: the nation of Israel. Yes, and he's so does that

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Speaker 6: the current borders the current leadership. He's talking with the

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Speaker 6: political instanity called Israel. He's talking about the nation of Israel.

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Speaker 6: Yet nations exists, and he's discussing a nation. A nation

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Speaker 1: He's the nation in Genesis.

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Speaker 6: Is that the same as the country run by Benjamin

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes it is.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, it's not run by Benjamin Netya,

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Speaker 7: It's it's a democratic But he's the prime minister.

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Speaker 5: Right, but just just like you know, America is the

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Speaker 5: country run by Donald Trump, not actually the American people

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Speaker 5: elected Donald Trump.

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Speaker 7: The same principle of sicily.

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Speaker 4: Plenty of unfair to go around, because I know, exhausting.

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Speaker 4: I don't buy Ted Cruz's the Israel of Genesis can

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Speaker 4: be transferred directly to the nation that we support sometimes

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Speaker 4: note support sometimes I mean it seems.

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Speaker 1: Like half elite.

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Speaker 4: But you did say run by Benjamin Nett and Yahoo.

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Speaker 4: And then when he says Benjamin, I didn't say it

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Speaker 7: What of that?

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Speaker 1: Right? He implies something unmistakably, then denies vehemently that he'd

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Speaker 1: implied it a pox on both their houses. So far, well, so.

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Speaker 4: The thing I took away mostly from it was, uh, Tucker,

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Speaker 4: going back to a number of times, we have drug

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Speaker 4: addicts dying in the streets, So why are we giving

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Speaker 4: so much money to Ukraine and Israel? And I just

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Speaker 4: do not understand that woke right point of view that

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Speaker 4: they're connected in any way, or that what is our

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even understand that. Well, there

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Speaker 1: are multiple layers of not persuasive to that number one,

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Speaker 1: it's just a plain false choice either support Ukraine or

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Speaker 1: help drug addicts in the streets. It's a false choice.

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Speaker 1: There are a thousand of million different programs, different priorities,

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Speaker 1: different areas where waste, fraud, and abuse happened, that we

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Speaker 1: could free up the money if we if we were

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Speaker 1: motivated to. The second layer is you're making a really

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Speaker 1: good point. It's what are you gonna do? What do

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Speaker 1: you what do you so? Even if I accepted your

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Speaker 1: false choice, what's your plan? What are you gonna use

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Speaker 1: the money for?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's we in California have thrown tens of billions

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Speaker 4: of dollars at this and ended up with more drug

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Speaker 1: It just strikes me as an argument for dumb people.

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Speaker 1: You want to emphasize domestic concerns over international concerns. That's

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Speaker 1: that's fine. I get that that's a perfectly sound argument.

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Speaker 1: But then or or a point of view, I happen

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Speaker 1: to disagree with it for reasons that we've stated many times.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm reminded the old saying you might not

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Speaker 1: be interested in politics, but believe me, politics is interested

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Speaker 1: in you. You might not be interested in the rest

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Speaker 1: of the world. But believe me, they're interested in us

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Speaker 1: and our stuff and our freedom of navigation and our

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Speaker 1: trade and the rest of it, in our land and

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Speaker 1: our resources. And so I just what do you suggest, Well,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's a false choice and it's silly.

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Speaker 4: We played this one earlier, but it is so freaking

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Speaker 4: good and it contains one of my favorite phrases that

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Speaker 4: I'll probably use the rest of my life.

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Speaker 1: They were discussing.

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Speaker 4: Tucker was accusing Ted Cruz of taking money from a

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Speaker 4: variety of lobby groups that lobby on behalf of Israel,

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Speaker 4: and so then saying Ted Cruise is in the pocket

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Speaker 4: of Israel and does their bidding.

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Speaker 1: And that sort of thing. That's where we are on this.

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Speaker 6: It's just interesting because what you're now describing in a

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Speaker 6: very defensive way, I will say, is foreign influence over

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Speaker 6: our politics. Now, and you began and it's so transparently

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Speaker 6: obvious to everybody. I don't know why you would be embarrassed,

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Speaker 6: but you've said that you are sincerely for Israel.

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Speaker 1: I believe you.

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Speaker 6: I don't think you have some weird agenda you seem

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Speaker 6: to by the.

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Speaker 5: Way, Tucker, it's a very weird thing, the obsession with Israel. Well,

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Speaker 5: we're talking about for it. You're not talking about Chinese,

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Speaker 5: you're not talking about Japanese, you're not talking about the Brits,

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Speaker 5: you're not talking about the French.

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Speaker 7: The question what about the Jews? What about the Jews?

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Speaker 1: Like I'm anti semi now.

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Speaker 7: Senator, you're just in the JEWETU Tucker.

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Speaker 5: You're asking why are the Jews controlling our foreign polity?

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Speaker 6: That's what you just asked, hardly saying that, and I

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Speaker 6: have that that's exactly what you just said. Well, actually,

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Speaker 6: I can speak for myself and tell you what I

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Speaker 6: am said on behalf, not simply of myself, but on

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Speaker 6: my many Jewish friends who would have the same questions,

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Speaker 6: which is to what extent? And it's interesting you're trying

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Speaker 6: to derail my questions by following me an anti semi,

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Speaker 7: I did not, of course you are, and.

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Speaker 6: And rather than be honorable enough to say it right

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Speaker 6: to my face, I are city squeezy feline way implying it. Well,

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Speaker 6: just asking questions about the Jews, I'm not questions about

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Speaker 1: I have. There's nothing to do with Jews or Judis

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Speaker 5: He is an Israel controlling our foreign policy. That's not

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Speaker 5: about the you said.

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Speaker 1: I'm asked. By the way, you're the one.

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Speaker 7: That just called me I think a sleezy felie.

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Speaker 4: And that happens really early in the two hour discussion,

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Speaker 4: so they both bring up the other person's insults regularly

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Speaker 4: through the call. You keep calling me and in I

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Speaker 4: saim I, no, I didn't you called me a sleezy feline.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like I'm overhearing like a really bitter,

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Speaker 1: I can't keep listening to this. Maybe just maybe thirty

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Speaker 4: There was some reason Ted Cruz was willing to engage

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Speaker 4: commit to an interview, and he had to keep saying

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Speaker 4: to Tucker, look, can you be a little less condescending?

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Speaker 4: Could you be a little less snarky with everything I say?

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Speaker 4: You know, I wish we had some examples to continue

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Speaker 4: to sit there. Well, it was usually when Tucker would

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Speaker 4: just make noises, you know, like right, you.

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Speaker 1: Know that sort of stuff, and say, do you need

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Speaker 1: to be so snarky. Yeah, I'm here.

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Speaker 4: I'm willing to talk about this as long as you

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Speaker 4: want and discuss the issues.

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Speaker 1: But I think.

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Speaker 4: I think Ted Cruz, and I mean I'm not being

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Speaker 4: crass about this. I think he actually sees the division

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Speaker 4: in the Republican Party. He's probably going to run for

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Speaker 4: president against JD. Vance and try to get the nomination.

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Speaker 4: He finished second to Trump when he ran in sixteen.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he was the last man standing other than Trump.

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Speaker 4: only reason I can think that he would put up

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Speaker 4: I assume to talk to Trump. I don't know who

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Speaker 1: Right, and you got to quit your yap. And you

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Speaker 4: So you said that they're singing from the same playbook,

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Speaker 1: in fact, MTG I can't remember what she looks like.

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Speaker 1: said a Middle Eastern war will pull America back twenty years.

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Speaker 4: I am pretty amazed by the people that are willing

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Speaker 4: to believe that MAGA is its own separate thing where

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Speaker 4: you can bad mouth Trump's decisions and we're our own

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Speaker 4: power base. I don't think that's true. I guess we'll

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Speaker 4: find out in the next couple of years. I think

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Speaker 4: Maggot is Trump.

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Speaker 1: I would disagree subtly. I think it is a fairly

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Speaker 1: cohesive interest group or a group of voters and writers

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Speaker 1: and thinkers in the same way like the open Border's

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Speaker 1: crowd is. And I'm not saying one is as big

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Speaker 1: as the other, bigger or whatever, or the gay rights

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Speaker 1: crowd is, or it's a belief it's a belief system.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I guess we'll see in coming elections. I don't think

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Speaker 4: they'll win any elections. Well, they haven't when unless Trump

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Speaker 4: is on the ticket to bring that crowd along. It's

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Speaker 4: like Obama. I mean, Obama could win elections because he

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Speaker 4: was so popular, but nobody could nobody when he wasn't

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Speaker 4: on the ticket.

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Speaker 1: It didn't make any difference. Yeah. Yeah. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the White House also reached out to Charlie Kirk conservative

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Speaker 1: activist Bannon clearly and in this article, I'm looking at mentions.

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Speaker 1: Mark Levin doesn't mention Ben Shapiro, but I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of your woke write types say, yeah, those people

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Speaker 1: are just spouting the talking points of the Jews because

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Speaker 1: they're about Israel. They're not about the United States, which

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Speaker 1: is a hell of a thing to say about Mark

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Speaker 1: Levin for instance. Also, and you know what, I've got

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Speaker 1: to be fair, Matt Gates, in talking to MTG said

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Speaker 1: President Trump rescued the Republican Party from the doom of

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Speaker 1: neo conservatism. I think it's a fair question to ask

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Speaker 1: those folks who want to entangle themselves in an Iranian war,

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Speaker 1: what's your plan for the day after?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's always a good one, that's absolutely necessary.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes people ask questions like they're rhetorical questions. It's not

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Speaker 1: a rhetorical question. It's a fine question, and I think

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Speaker 1: Trump would be willing to answer it. I think the

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Speaker 1: question is less.

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Speaker 4: Needed now than it was a obviously Iraq or you know,

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Speaker 4: you know, eliminating Hamas and Gaza, then who's going to

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Speaker 4: run it. You can't let Iran get a nuclear weapon,

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Speaker 4: the end is I think Trump's opinion in my opinion

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Speaker 4: on that, And yeah, looking at the next day is

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Speaker 4: a very good idea, and should plan is best you can.

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Speaker 4: But no matter what the answer to that is, they

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Speaker 4: can't have a nuclear weapon. You can't let them have

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Speaker 4: a nuclear weapon because you haven't answered the question what's next?

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Speaker 1: Right. It reminds me in a weird way of our

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Speaker 1: discussion through the decades about illegal immigration, and especially back

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Speaker 1: in the day in cal Unicornia, people would say, as

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Speaker 1: if they're asking a rhetorical question and a powerful, devastating question. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: who's going to pick the lettuce? And we crafted the

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Speaker 1: answer somebody or nobody or a machine. If lettuce picking

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Speaker 1: is the tail that wags the entire dog of the

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Speaker 1: United States, were screwed. You've got to enforce the law.

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Speaker 1: The one non negotiable is we've got to have coherent

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Speaker 1: immigration policy and we've got to follow it. And if

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Speaker 1: it ends up that nobody picks the lettuce and we

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Speaker 1: all have to eat kale instead, or let us just

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Speaker 1: triple the expense or whatever, that's just the one possibility

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Speaker 1: or the one option is untenable. It's unacceptable. That is

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Speaker 1: what we meant. Same way, the one unacceptable option is

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Speaker 1: the freaking Mullahs having a nuclear bomb and the desire

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Speaker 1: to wipe out humanity in the name of their Islamist vision.

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, some of you probably remember my

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Speaker 4: one man play, A World without Lettuce.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 4: It ran briefly, it closed very quickly. It just didn't

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Speaker 4: catch on. I think it needed some songs.

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Speaker 1: I urge you to rewrite. I should have made it

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Speaker 1: as musical and retro as opposed to. Yeah, so that's

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Speaker 1: interesting that Trump feels like he needs to convince Steve

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Speaker 1: Bannon and Tucker Carlson before he does this. I wrote

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Speaker 1: you a song Bacon, Nothing and Tomato, which you rejected.

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Speaker 1: I'll remind you the BNT. Yes, I'll have a BNT

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Speaker 1: where And this is the moment in the show Joe

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Speaker 1: could no longer talk about this stuff seriously.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, that's true. But uh hmm, interesting, I'll be darned.

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Speaker 4: Trump has been risked on both the risks and benefits

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Speaker 4: of bombing fodoh, according to CBS News, Yeah, I assumed that,

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Speaker 4: and his mindset is that disabling it is necessary because

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Speaker 4: of the risk of weapons being produced in a relatively

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Speaker 4: short period of time. Sources say, so he seems to

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Speaker 4: have been he's completely convinced.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's right. I'm sorry. I had one more thing

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Speaker 1: I wanted to throw in about Steve Bennon, specifically, He

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Speaker 1: said yesterday that Trump really needs to articulate his views

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Speaker 1: not just a MAGA but to the American people of

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Speaker 1: why we would get involved in another war over there

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Speaker 1: as a combatant. So that was Bennon sending a message

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Speaker 1: to Trump, who apparently, excuse me, called for Bennon to

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Speaker 1: come to the White House to talk to him. But

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Speaker 1: Bannon also said this, and this is yesterday before coming

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Speaker 1: to the White House today. He called on supporters to

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Speaker 1: pray for Trump, and he predicted that the MAGA movement

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Speaker 1: wouldn't fully splinter over ran quote. We don't like it,

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Speaker 1: maybe we hate it, but you know, we'll get on board.

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Speaker 1: He said, Oh that was pretty get along, ye by

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Speaker 1: his standards. Yeah, yeah, there will be no mutiny on

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Speaker 1: the good ship MAGA. According to Steve Bannon, did he

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Speaker 1: walk into the White House looking like a half a

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Speaker 1: homeless person? Probably? Yeah, we will finish wrong next.

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Speaker 4: Whoopie Goldberg on the View just said black people in

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Speaker 4: America have it as bad as women in Iran. So

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Speaker 4: that's helpful on this Juneteenth. Why she's a moron, she's

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Speaker 4: mon or she's being deliberately provocative in a really not

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Speaker 4: healthy way.

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Speaker 1: Does she need the money or the attention. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's on. Speaking of getting attention, Tulsy Gabberd, who I

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Speaker 1: have called a crackpot, among other things, a clip of

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Speaker 1: her from a hearing congressional hearing in March was getting

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Speaker 1: a lot of attention this week in which she essentially denied.

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Speaker 1: She said, according to intelligence, Iran does not have a

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Speaker 1: nuke or blah blah, we're not to play it for you, right,

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Speaker 1: we're about to play it for you. But then the

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Speaker 1: clip generally after about eighteen seconds ends, and what she

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Speaker 1: said next I thought was really interesting too. So this

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Speaker 1: is both halves of it together.

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Speaker 2: The ICY continues to assess that Iran is not building

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Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon and Supreme Leader Kamani has not authorized

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Speaker 2: the nuclear weapons program that he suspended in two thousand

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Speaker 2: and three. The ICY continues to monitor closely if Tehran

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Speaker 2: decides to reauthorize its nuclear weapons program. In the past year,

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Speaker 2: we've seen an erosion of a decade's long taboo in

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Speaker 2: Iran on discussing nuclear weapons in public, likely emboldening nuclear

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Speaker 2: weapons advocates within Iran's decision making apparatus. Iran's enriched uranium

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Speaker 2: stockpile is at its highest levels and is unprecedented for

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Speaker 2: a state without nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 1: Hm, that is interesting. Why did people leave that It's

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Speaker 1: not as dramatic. Maybe they were trying to say, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. They might have had a couple of different purposes.

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Speaker 4: And was that for the crowd that's trying to work,

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Speaker 4: they're not close to a nuke, that's just Netanyahu trying

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Speaker 4: to stay in office crowd.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, But and then the crowd that thinks Tulsey's

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Speaker 1: a crackpot and or shouldn't be in the administration floated

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Speaker 1: that to look at the division within Trump world.

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Speaker 4: Well, but in reality, her boss, the President, was asked

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Speaker 4: what he thought of what she had to say, and

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Speaker 4: he said, I don't care what she thinks. And she

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Speaker 4: wasn't in. She isn't in these security meetings. You don't

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Speaker 4: have your director of National Intelligence in the big meetings.

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Speaker 4: That is a heck of a deal. I don't know

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Speaker 4: how you don't resign under those circumstances.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, me too. I don't know what the DNI

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Speaker 1: does day to day.

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Speaker 4: It is a is another layer added after nine to

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Speaker 4: eleven unnecessary. People always think you got to fix things

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Speaker 4: with more layers of people in government and offices.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it's unnecessary. There's definitely the danger

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Speaker 1: of what you're suggesting, but it could be like ten people.

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Speaker 1: And just because it's an umbrella organization meant to make

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Speaker 1: sure that the CIA is sharing with the FBI, who

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Speaker 1: is sharing with the NSA, was sharing with the d

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Speaker 1: i A make sure they're not siloed. Stove piping Jack described,

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Speaker 1: others have described it.

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Speaker 4: I was listening to Ken Pollock being interviewed, and he's

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Speaker 4: been in the intelligence agencies forever. I was listening to

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Speaker 4: him on a podcast yesterday and it came up and

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Speaker 4: he said, the DNA d and I was created. It

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Speaker 4: doesn't really have a purpose. It's it's it's hard to

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Speaker 4: figure out what they're supposed to be doing.

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Speaker 1: So right, that's what I thought, and I was glad

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Speaker 1: to hear him say that. It's funny. I forgot my

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Speaker 1: own point. I was driving toward the idea that, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't need Tulsi Gabbard in the meetings because

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Speaker 1: she's not the CIA. She's just the person who makes

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Speaker 1: sure the CIA is sharing with the FBON. Right, so

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Speaker 1: you have the CIA and the FBI in.

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Speaker 4: There, Yeah, that makes sense. Of course, having the president

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Speaker 4: say I don't care what you think.

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Speaker 1: This is not a good looks. I'm strong, You're ready.

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Speaker 1: Katie Green's strong.

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Speaker 4: I mean I've been told I don't care what you think,

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Speaker 4: and I found it hurtful.

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Speaker 1: Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty. Hey, let's

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Speaker 1: get a final thought from everybody on the crew, because

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Speaker 1: we care what they think deeply. Let's begin with Michaelangelo

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Speaker 1: or technical director. Michael final thought, Yes, support your kids

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Speaker 1: lemonade stands.

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Speaker 7: Anytime I see a little lemonade stand in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: I pull over Igimo dollar two.

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Speaker 5: So I will say, though, the quality of lemonade is

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Speaker 5: always suspect.

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Speaker 1: So I've had some good stuff and I've had stuff

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Speaker 1: that I've had to spit out the windows.

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Speaker 4: When Henry did his a couple of years ago, him

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Speaker 4: and his buddy, they were fresh squeezed, actual lemons from

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Speaker 4: the trees.

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Speaker 1: It was really good. Oh gimme, Katie Green are esteemed duswoman.

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Speaker 1: As a final thought, Katie, I think you guys will

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Speaker 1: be thrilled to know that the band name Ambiguous Genitalia

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Speaker 1: is up for grabs, not taken yet let's kick out

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Speaker 1: the jams. Huh jack. A final thought, how long well

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Speaker 1: my son and I last at a Dodgers game when

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Speaker 1: neither one of us are that interested? Do you think

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Speaker 1: there's enough of the old ballpark just between the food

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Speaker 1: and the vibe to keep you entertained for a while? Sure?

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Speaker 1: Watching people watching? Yeah, you're exactly right, I would hope.

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Speaker 1: So I have two final thoughts. This is unprecedented. Number One,

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Speaker 1: I've called Telsea Gabbert to crank, definition and eccentric person,

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Speaker 1: especially one who was obsessed by a particular subject or theory. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I see is a crank. And also, streaming is king

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Speaker 1: May this past May last month, first time ever Americans

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Speaker 1: watching television being streamed outnumbered cable and network TV combined.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually surprised he took this long for that line

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Speaker 4: to be crossed. Armstrong and Getty rare. I think about

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Speaker 4: another grueling four hour workday.

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Speaker 1: So many people thanks a little time go to Armstrong

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Speaker 1: Egeddy dot com. A lot of great clicks there for you.

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Speaker 1: Trust me on that. Will we be at war by

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Speaker 1: this time tomorrow? God bless America. I'm strong and Getty.

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Speaker 1: There are two ways to look at this Where shade

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Speaker 1: are you? This is a national emergency. Come on, you weenies,

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Speaker 1: grow up.

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Speaker 7: Okay for those of you that don't understand.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me say. Let me say one thing.

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Speaker 6: You're a senator who's calling them about the country.

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Speaker 7: No, you don't know anything about the country yet I know.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your attention to this matter. Armstrong and

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Speaker 1: Getty