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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast, presented by by Star Credit Union.

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Speaker 1: All Right, welcome to this week's Ozone podcast is done

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Speaker 1: by by Star. I gotta say I'm excited about this

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Speaker 1: week's guest. I always say that, but I really am

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Speaker 1: this week because we're joined by a guy who is Frankly,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know much about when he signed. Uh he

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Speaker 1: signed recently, did some research, talk to some people and said, hey,

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Speaker 1: this guy is special guy, and it's different when you

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Speaker 1: get the ball in his hand. That's true. I realized

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Speaker 1: how different until this beef and started. Thanky War's fans

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Speaker 1: know by now I'm talking about kick returner, but probably

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Speaker 1: more important right now, wide receiver Jamal Agnes Jamal, thanks

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Speaker 1: for joining us. First of all, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Happy to be here. Man. All right, John, tell me

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Speaker 1: about life in the week after the hundred nine yard

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Speaker 1: for you? What changed? I know people close to you

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Speaker 1: weren't surprised, but that was pretty lights out. Yeah. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was special. Um, just just to be a part

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Speaker 1: of something like that. I mean, you know, as a

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Speaker 1: whole we made NFL history. You know that wasn't just

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Speaker 1: me out there. Um, you know, there was ten other guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, grinding out there. Um, you know that everybody

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Speaker 1: did their job, and you know we made NFL history

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Speaker 1: or you know, tied NFL history. So um, it was

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Speaker 1: just special. And I had a lot of people hitting

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Speaker 1: me up, um, sending me the video telling me how

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Speaker 1: proud they are of me. And you know that's what

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Speaker 1: I love to do. I love to make plays like that.

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Speaker 1: I love to you know, make those energy plays or

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Speaker 1: spark plays. And you know that's what I said I

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Speaker 1: was gonna do when you know, Urban and Trent brought

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Speaker 1: me here. You know, I plan to just keep up

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Speaker 1: with that. Now, things like this are different. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: an old man, Jamal and fifty five and coming the

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Speaker 1: league for a while. Maybe when I first started, this

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Speaker 1: kind of thing wouldn't have much life for you to

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Speaker 1: see it on Sports Center once in a while. But

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Speaker 1: with social media, I think one of the positives of

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Speaker 1: social media, it's something like this lives. Have you heard

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Speaker 1: the Gus Johnson call on social media? And if so,

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Speaker 1: how much have you listened to it? How cool was that?

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Speaker 1: I guess? Oh man, I probably watched it like over

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Speaker 1: a hundred times, just just for just for Gus Johnson's reactions. Um,

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Speaker 1: obviously I kind of grew up watching. I mean just

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Speaker 1: like I used to hear him broadcasting in the college

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Speaker 1: football games all the time on and you know, he's

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Speaker 1: always been electric like that. But for him to just

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Speaker 1: to be able to cover that play was just like

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Speaker 1: a matchmate in heaven because he was honestly, you know,

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Speaker 1: the perfect guy for that, for that play call right there.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I've watched it so many times, and

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Speaker 1: I actually tweeted, I actually tweeted out. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I want I want Gus Johnson to to to narrate

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Speaker 1: my basic life, just like my everyday life. You know,

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Speaker 1: that would it would make all the most basic stuff

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Speaker 1: is exciting his heck, life would be a better place

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Speaker 1: if that was true. And and I haven't got any

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Speaker 1: chance to get to know you because the COVID there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of things separate. Um, but he listened to

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Speaker 1: the press conference. Listening to you, now you have an

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Speaker 1: appreciation for this maybe that some players don't. Meaning you

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Speaker 1: know other returners, you've watched them. If I threw out

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Speaker 1: great returners names, I'm sure you could list them off,

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Speaker 1: all right, is that important to you, sort of fitting

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Speaker 1: into history. You've got seven of these things now, that's

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know the deep down, that definitely does. Um.

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Speaker 1: numbers with them is is honestly an honor. But you know,

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Speaker 1: of dime. I'm not saying I can't do any of that,

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Speaker 1: But when you return a punt, you know, most of

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Speaker 1: and yet you win that. It's got to be pretty

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Speaker 1: cool when you're standing in the ends up. Oh, it's

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Speaker 1: I I would like to say pumpy turns a lot

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Speaker 1: What did it mean when your shoes went to the hall?

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Speaker 1: It was? It was it was, it was an honor.

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Speaker 1: I mean I never would have anticipated that. I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 1: Give me the top three in order fastest Jaguars players,

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Speaker 1: give it to you. Are you acknowledged that the fastest guy?

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Speaker 1: Or is this a competition? Because then in my experience,

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Speaker 1: I guess until somebody else takes that nine, you can

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Speaker 1: kind of say it right exactly. That's uh. Um, what

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Speaker 1: not sure exactly the history on this, but you're a

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Speaker 1: And they had already been using me sporadically on offense,

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