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Speaker 1: Hey Russell, Remember me? Hey Russell? Hey, how you doing Russell?

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Speaker 2: Remember me? Yes, swirly whirlies, Russell.

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Speaker 1: Remember dunking my head in the toilet with poop in it?

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Speaker 2: Not so funny?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: to my face? Oh, you got a video on me

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Speaker 2: on me? Now, see what happens?

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Speaker 1: Oh, try to rub poop on me?

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Speaker 2: See what happened?

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Speaker 1: I dare you rub poop on me?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 1: Come on, rub poop on me? What you don't want

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Speaker 1: to smoke?

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Speaker 5: Come on, podcast listeners, This is a special episode for you.

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Speaker 5: We've got a full squad here in the Factory test

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Speaker 5: along with Skeetch, tray Lee, and of course JD. We'll

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Speaker 5: talk Kyrie and a whole lot of NBA rumors in

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Speaker 5: a little bit, But first we turned to an old

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Speaker 5: friend to prep us for the NBA Draft takes place

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Speaker 5: on Thursday, June twenty third. John Hollinger, of course has

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Speaker 5: seven years leading the Grizzlies front office, but more importantly,

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Speaker 5: he watches every college, international and G League player play basketball.

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Speaker 5: He even goes down to watch the ote here in Atlanta,

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Speaker 5: an alternative league to the NCAA or G League. Man,

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Speaker 5: this guy does it all. Tried to get him in studio,

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Speaker 5: but he's got so many deadlines coming up for the

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Speaker 5: Athletic he'll be live blogging the draft. I'm sure he's

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Speaker 5: so busy. So we thank John Hollinger for joining us.

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Speaker 5: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: John, thanks for having me on the show. I'm just

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Speaker 2: sweltering in the dark here in the Atlanta heat, just

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Speaker 2: like you guys.

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Speaker 6: That's what we do. All right.

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Speaker 5: Let's just start right at the top of the draft, John,

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Speaker 5: We've got our shamp Sharanya reporting that Auburn's Jabari Smith

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Speaker 5: the Magic and the Thunder. But according to Schamp's he

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Speaker 5: remains a favorite to go number one. So let's just

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Speaker 5: get to the question everybody wants to know. Is Auburn's

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Speaker 5: Jambari Smith going number one?

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Speaker 2: John, I actually think there's a decent chance Cheed Holmgren

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Speaker 2: ends up being Orlando's pick. I just feel like the

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Speaker 2: the story adds up, The story adds up a little

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Speaker 2: bit that they they love length they haven't. Like a

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Speaker 2: I guess, is a little unusual, like that that zion

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Speaker 2: Job draft lottery for instance, Like we knew two days

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Speaker 2: after the lottery who the top two picks are going

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Speaker 2: to be, and we haven't quite gotten to that point yet.

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Speaker 2: So pardon me, I need more coffee. That's a big week, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Uh So, I think there's a decent chance Orlando takes ched.

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Speaker 5: Holgren amazing, but you have him out of your top

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Speaker 5: three right because consensus top three Jabari Smith, Powell, Ben Caro,

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Speaker 5: right up? So why did you sub him in for chet?

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Speaker 2: I just think if you look at the past history

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Speaker 1: How does this year's draft john stack up to last

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Speaker 2: A I think last year's draft is going to go

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Speaker 2: We're actually so we're going to see a bunch of trades,

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Speaker 2: not because the draft sucks, but because the free agents suck.

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Speaker 2: There's just not a lot of players out there in

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Speaker 4: Who do you think is more likely to trade their

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Speaker 2: I see it's I think it's more likely that Portland does.

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Speaker 2: I just think there's more potential avenues for them to

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Speaker 2: So it gets a little messy once you start talking

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Speaker 5: I wonder about Sacramento and their position, specifically positions on

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Speaker 2: I just want them to see with all guards and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the open swerve right there, John, everybody, it's

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Speaker 1: wings right now. The Kings are thinking next level. No,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, because Jade and Ivy could drop to them

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Speaker 5: at number four. It would be yeah, totally understandable. Is

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Speaker 7: A little bit?

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's trying to guide where he's gonna

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's definitely a thing that's that's happened in

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Speaker 2: I hate to say it for Sacramento. I mean this

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Speaker 2: has happened to them on multiple occasions four because players

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Speaker 2: Detroit just yeah, you know, put in a second or

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Speaker 2: what's the what's the sugar that that Detroit is going

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Speaker 2: to throw in to do that trade? It probably wouldn't

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Speaker 3: You know, John in the past, you know mentioned things say,

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Speaker 3: for example, de Zion Williamson draft he was the number

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Speaker 3: year it's not so clear. So you know those teams

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I can relate to that. When we

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Speaker 2: likely to be there for us. At four. I mean,

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Speaker 2: down possibilities? And then you're talking to other teams too,

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Speaker 2: you know, and otherwise they weren't that interested. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: that was probably also the scenario where we weren't going

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Speaker 3: But you've only got five minutes too, don't you to

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Speaker 2: That sne you better, yeah, you better have all your

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Speaker 3: So absolutely in that scenario, is it the general manager

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Speaker 2: I mean, the GM is making the final call in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's it's a pretty it's a pretty stage

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Speaker 2: managed thing by that point. You know, that's why you know,

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Speaker 7: You mentioned that on draft night.

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Speaker 4: You gotta have your homework done ahead of time because

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Speaker 4: you only got five minutes. You gotta have your script,

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Speaker 4: and you gotta be able to make a call. So

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Speaker 4: that makes me think, like, what is a team like

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Speaker 4: Indiana gonna be doing? Because they've allegedly been shopping Malcolm

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Speaker 4: Brogden and Miles Turner, which has kind of been the

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Speaker 7: The sixth pick. It feels like they could go either way.

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Speaker 4: Trying to get back to the playoffs, which the Pacers

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Indiana has so many balls in the air right now.

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Speaker 2: I do think they're leaning more toward trade Turner, trade Brogden.

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Speaker 2: I know this is the thirty sixth time that we've

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Speaker 2: that the Pacers kind of want to go younger, build

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Speaker 2: you know, in return for Brogden and Turner and roll

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Speaker 2: in cap room. I think you know that nobody's really

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Speaker 2: talking about this, but like, if they trade one of

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Speaker 2: Brogden or Turner, then they have enough cap room to

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Speaker 2: make a run at Miles Bridges, which I think is

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Speaker 2: definitely a thing they would probably pursue. So there's there's

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Speaker 2: a lot to unpack there. They're they're also doing stuff

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Speaker 2: with pick thirty one, by the way, but that's like

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Speaker 2: the seventh most important pacer thing going on.

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Speaker 1: So talk about that's the real who is your and

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Speaker 1: maybe it's someone at the thirty first position, but who's

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Speaker 1: your sleeper or sleepers in this draft job? I mean,

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Speaker 1: we know the big names. Again, we're we're sort of

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Speaker 1: nubes when it comes to the draft. We're not watching

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Speaker 1: a lot of college basketball, but we know, of course

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Speaker 1: the big stars and the guys that are gonna go one, two,

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Speaker 1: three and all that. But like, who do you have

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Speaker 1: on your sleeper board that we should be like watching

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so a guy could go probably as high as

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Speaker 2: number seven as Dyson Daniels who played this year for

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Speaker 2: Jamie good Night. He wasn't uh, he wasn't in the

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Speaker 2: n c a A. Probably the one red flag is

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Speaker 2: that he's Australian.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I wasn't worry given everybody nicknames.

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Speaker 1: Why at the end, Okay, so you could see him

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Speaker 1: going as high as seventy said.

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Speaker 7: So, yeah, yeah, no.

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Speaker 2: I I really liked him when I watched him. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's he's good, he can handle the ball, he's got

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Speaker 2: good size. I think he's his background really checked out

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Speaker 2: really well, honestly, uh, you know, even though he probably

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Speaker 2: he really he really, I mean he he plays hard,

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Speaker 2: he plays the right way. He made a really good

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Speaker 2: not like a crazy explosive athlete, and he needs to

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Speaker 2: get better as a shooter. But I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of people like him. And I think even if it's

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Speaker 2: even if they trade that pick, I think other teams

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Speaker 1: Also interesting any other sleepers maybe or that's sort of

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Speaker 2: Let's see here. I mean, I like Jeremy Sohan from Baylor.

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna end up somewhere in the lottery,

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Speaker 2: like somewhere between maybe like nine to twelve. Good defender,

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Speaker 2: you know, has a potential get a lot better offensively,

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Speaker 2: and then my way out of left field guy is

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Speaker 2: Josh Minett from Memphis who I think most people are

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Speaker 2: I think he could be a good player.

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Speaker 1: And tell us about him for those again like myself

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he didn't play that much for Memphis

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Speaker 2: this year, but when he did, he was really good.

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Speaker 2: He's a good passer, pretty pretty active long arm defender,

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Speaker 2: fouls a lot. You know, has to get better as

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Speaker 2: a shooter, like kind of a raw player, but as

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Speaker 5: Let's talk about one mystery man because that's such an

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Speaker 5: intriguing story. Shaden Sharp of Kentucky, a six to six

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Speaker 5: a high lottery pick. What's the story there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he was number one. He was a

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Speaker 2: they thought he would come out. They thought he would

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Speaker 2: play college this year. And then be in next year's draft,

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Speaker 2: and he reclassified, but he came in kind of late.

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Speaker 2: And originally the plan was for him to spend like

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Speaker 2: the games, and then and then play for Kentucky for

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Speaker 2: second part when you know, he realized he'd be a

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Speaker 2: him quote unquote play. I watched him work out before

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Speaker 2: I mean he can he can really shoot. Uh, so

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Speaker 2: like good athlete, decent size, Like he's probably more two

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Speaker 2: worked out against him? Oh wow, Yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: He can he get dropped?

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Speaker 7: The chair?

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Speaker 1: The chairs going in the second.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's waiting, he's waiting for the call. I'm not

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Speaker 3: We just got to see, Hey, who who's stock really

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Speaker 3: rose after the Combine this year because I know that

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Speaker 3: can a guy really like climb up the board from

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Speaker 3: just showing, you know, he's got the good skills and

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Speaker 3: things like that, with that necessarily playing like it's just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Yovich. I mean I think for some

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Speaker 2: have helped him a little bit. I'm not really sure

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Speaker 2: on him because I've heard I've heard mixed feedback about

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Speaker 2: you know, I think some people like him more than others.

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Speaker 2: The guy who really rose at the Combine was Jalen

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Speaker 2: Williams from Santa Clara. You watch him on tape with

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Speaker 2: Santa Clara. I actually was watching another team for another player,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, who is this guard of Santa Clara.

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Speaker 2: He's huge and he's making plays and stuff because he

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Speaker 2: I think he's just a good, solid, all around player.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I see like star potential with him,

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Speaker 2: but I think he's guy when you get into that

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Speaker 4: Are there any player types that you're noticing seem to

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Speaker 4: be rising up draft boards this year? Because I'm thinking,

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Speaker 4: like you know, when Draymond first kind of came on

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Speaker 7: Diao, you need a big playmaker, things like that.

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Speaker 4: Is there like a body type kind of out there

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Speaker 4: that teams are looking for now? Having seen success in

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Speaker 4: the NBA six seven wings.

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Speaker 2: That's what everyone's looking for.

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Speaker 3: I saw you.

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Speaker 2: That's That's why Bennett Mathern is gonna go as high

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Speaker 2: That's why I think Jalen Williams has moved up. I

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Speaker 2: think that's why you're going to see somebody take a

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Speaker 2: flyer on Ousman Dang from the New Zealand Breakers originally

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Speaker 2: just just because he fits that. You know, size, length,

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Speaker 2: Everyone's looking for small forwards all the time, and you

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Speaker 2: there's a type that teams are looking for, that is

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Speaker 2: absolutely it.

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Speaker 7: Unless you're the Kings, I suppose.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, none of them exactly, they're just yeah, yea Kings,

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Speaker 2: no wings, Well the Kings.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you hit on something that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a headline on the Athletic tomorrow. Oh totally yeah.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Somebody tweeted in last night when I said you were

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Speaker 1: coming on the show, John Nick wanted to know, is

439
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Speaker 1: sort of flipping it on tip because we're always asking

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Speaker 1: about sleepers or who do you like in the top ten?

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Speaker 1: Nick wanted to know, who's a player you don't think

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Speaker 1: is worth the consensus projected? Pick someone that maybe you're

443
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Speaker 1: not as high. Is it ched hoolmgrin? Is it somebody else?

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Speaker 2: Johnny Davis from Wisconsin, Okay, I just I just don't

445
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Speaker 2: think he's gonna be what he would need to be

446
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Speaker 2: offensively to justify a top ten pick. So that's one

447
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Speaker 2: I struggle with. I think Usman Dang, I think it's

448
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Speaker 2: gotten a little overrated. People gotten to head themselves on

449
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Speaker 2: that one. Osha At Baji from Kansas would probably be

450
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Speaker 2: the other one where I'd like, I see him more

451
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Speaker 2: as like a second rounder, maybe back end rotation guy.

452
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Speaker 2: He could end up going to the lottery.

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Speaker 7: John.

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Speaker 3: So you know, obviously every year you want the number

455
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Speaker 3: one pick, every franchise wants it. But in a year

456
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Speaker 3: like this, when there isn't the Zion Williamson, there isn't

457
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Speaker 3: that like absolute luck? Is it? Okay? Being two and

458
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Speaker 3: three where you like you might you might lucking to

459
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Speaker 3: Kevin Durant. I mean, you might get the Kevin Durant

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Speaker 3: there at number two. Or do you just say no,

461
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Speaker 3: I want to have first choice no matter what.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's still rather have have first choice.

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Speaker 2: I mean that Durant draft was interesting because it was

464
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Speaker 2: you know, it was Odin and Durant all year, and

465
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Speaker 2: then everyone's like, well, you don't want to be number three, right,

466
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Speaker 2: you know number three ended up being Al Horford. Yeah

467
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Speaker 2: he turned out okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, But.

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Speaker 3: This is a pressure though, isn't there on Orlando to

469
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Speaker 3: make sure that they they don't in two years time. Go, Man,

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Speaker 3: they left this guy and this guy on the board,

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Speaker 3: and they.

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Speaker 2: Can in some ways. In some ways like Houston is

473
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Speaker 2: really in the low stress position, right because everyone perceives

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Speaker 2: the top three and Heughston is just gonna take the

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Speaker 2: third guy basically, right.

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Speaker 1: And then that guy's going to be pissed that he

477
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Speaker 1: went third. It's like the best of both worlds. It's like,

478
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Speaker 1: I'm better than those other two guys. So he's already

479
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Speaker 1: got that going for him. Well, let's put your feet

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Speaker 1: to the fire here. Let's make some predictions one through

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Speaker 1: five on Thursday night, John, how's it going with the Magic,

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Speaker 1: then the Thunder, then the Rockets, then the Kings, and

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Speaker 1: then obviously the Pistons, though you say there could be

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Speaker 1: some movement there, especially between Detroit and Sacramento. But how's

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Speaker 1: this going one through five? In your mind?

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Speaker 6: On Thursday, I'll.

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Speaker 2: Say holme Grin goes first to Lando. I'll say the

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Speaker 2: second pick will be either Smith or Holmgren. Whoever Orlando

489
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Speaker 2: doesn't take, that's who Oklahoma City will take. There's been

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Speaker 2: a little bit of muttering that they might like Jade

491
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Speaker 2: and Ivy too, but I think that's more like if

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Speaker 2: they try to move jump in from twelve and move

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Speaker 2: up that way. I don't think they're taking Jade and

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Speaker 2: Ivy at two three. Houston will take Palel Buncaro for

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Speaker 2: the fourth pick regard, I don't know which team will

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Speaker 2: make the pick. The player will be Jade Nivy okay,

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Speaker 2: and then I think Keithan Murray goes fifth, although there

498
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Speaker 2: is a little bit more noise that maybe Benedict Mathern

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Speaker 2: could be that pick for Detroit.

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Speaker 1: He's Canadian as well, wasn't he Benedict? So I would

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Speaker 1: want to do I have that right? I think he

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Speaker 1: is he.

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Speaker 2: Is he is, he is of Haitian extraction, right, I

504
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Speaker 2: think his past I think he has a Canadian passport.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that's I think that's correct. All right,

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Speaker 1: I'll be cheering for him then.

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Speaker 5: The teaching us so many things, John, I want to

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Speaker 5: thank you for everything, including letting us know via your

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Speaker 5: top seventy five draft board that Julian Champagne is Justin

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Speaker 5: Champanne's twin brother.

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Speaker 6: Incredible stuff.

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Speaker 5: I'm interested in that. And one last question for you

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Speaker 5: might be a little unfair. It's coming from a stream

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Speaker 5: teamer who's watching you on YouTube. Bill Malarkey says, why

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Speaker 5: is Hollinger listening to a portable Walkman circa nineteen ninety

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Speaker 5: six with those.

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Speaker 1: What jams do you got on?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 6: There?

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Speaker 2: It's the only way I can listen to to my

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Speaker 2: cassette tapes.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Man ninety six was a good draft. Maybe that's

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Speaker 5: why you're rocking them there. Well, we will see your

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Speaker 5: work all week this week on The Athletic, including the

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Speaker 5: live blog. Are you working during the draft on the

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Speaker 5: live blog? John, I imagine, Yes, I am.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's gonna be me and Sam Passini partying all

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Speaker 2: night long.

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Speaker 6: There you go.

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Speaker 5: It's a perfect companion to the draft. So thanks a lot, John,

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Speaker 5: We'll be reading your stuff all week. Appreciate the time.

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Speaker 5: As always, we'll get to someome Kyrie talk after the break,

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Speaker 5: more Kyrie talk and lots of NBA rumors, plus the

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Speaker 5: Warriors parade, So stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: All right back with the boys here in the Classic Factory.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again to John Hollinger with The Athletic for jumping

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Speaker 1: on talking about the NBA Draft. Shout out to the

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Speaker 1: stream teamers make sure you like and subscribe, comment away

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Speaker 1: as you are already. Okay, we got some news and

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Speaker 1: notes here. Yeah, we gotta talk about Kyrie. Uh we

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Speaker 1: sort of teased about talking about it on yesterday's show,

542
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Speaker 1: but that Sham's article had dropped right before we went live.

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Speaker 1: But Schams writes this, let me just read this part

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Speaker 1: to you. Okay. Kyrie Irving has a June twenty ninth

545
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Speaker 1: deadline on his thirty six point nine million player option

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Speaker 1: for the twenty two to twenty three season. However, multiple

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Speaker 1: sources tell The Athletic that conversations about Irving's future have

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Speaker 1: gone stagnant between him and the Brooklyn Nets. An impasse

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Speaker 1: currently exists among the parties that clears the way for

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Speaker 1: the seven time all start to consider the open marketplace.

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Speaker 1: Here you go again with Kyrie. Here we go. Trey

552
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: is Kyrie Dune in Brooklyn. Let's just rip the band

553
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Speaker 1: aid off. What's going on with past.

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00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 4: When those negotiations get stagnant? This is Kyrie Irving? So

555
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 4: who knows? Literally impossible. As soon as this report came out,

556
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 4: he tweeted a gift of brother moves on, smiling. Yeah,

557
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 4: no clue how to even interpret that I was like,

558
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 4: what is this supposed to mean? But basically what it

559
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 4: comes down to is the same thing it's come down

560
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 4: to for Kyrie Irving and the Nets. The Nets one

561
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 4: him fully committed to the team next year, they're probably

562
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 4: hesitant to give him a long term deal. Jake Fisher

563
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 4: at bleacher Report Today reported that the Nets want to

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Speaker 4: give Kyrie a shorter term, incentive laden agreement that includes

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Speaker 4: benchmarks such as games played, which makes sense if you're

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Speaker 4: the Nets. From Kyrie's perspective, He's thirty years old, so

567
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 4: he wants security, and when he's on the court, he's

568
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 4: been an All NBA level player. He's been incredible since

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Speaker 4: playing for the Net, but he's had a lot of

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00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 4: reasons not to play for the Nets. Played one hundred

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00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 4: and three games in three seasons. My guest, though, is

572
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Speaker 4: that he does begin the season in Brooklyn. Alex Schiffer

573
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 4: over the Athletic broke down four scenarios and it basically

574
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 4: comes down to Kyrie can decline his option and leave

575
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 4: for nothing, but the teams he's interested in basically don't

576
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 4: have cap space. The Nets can also offer him the

577
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 4: most money the most years, and they don't want to

578
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 4: lose him for nothing, so kind of all parties involved

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Speaker 4: want something to happen rather than just Kyrie leaving.

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Speaker 7: I would think.

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Speaker 4: Then you go into the trade scenarios, A Knicks trade

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Speaker 4: probably pretty unlikely unless r J. Barrett is included, in

583
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Speaker 4: which case, why are you including.

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Speaker 7: R J Barrett?

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Speaker 4: The Lakers it is the next They haven't been as

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Speaker 4: nick Sea since.

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Speaker 1: But we're all waiting for it.

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00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 4: We're all waiting for that next Nixy move. The Lakers

589
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 4: Westbrook trade is literally hilarious, Like, couldn't be a funnier

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Speaker 4: possible trade to have Kyrie and Lebron reunite and kad

591
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Speaker 4: in Westbrook reunite, right, it seems unlike the Clippers trade

592
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Speaker 4: that's rumored. Norm Powell, Morris, knard Man, Jackson Covington Totally.

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Speaker 4: That's interesting for Brooklyn, I do think just because it

594
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Speaker 4: rebuilds their rotation like this suddenly they have the Clippers rotation?

595
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: Right? But did the Clippers want.

596
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Speaker 4: To roll forward with Kawhi, Paul George and Kyrie Irving?

597
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 4: I mean they're all healthy for about sixty eight as well,

598
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 4: so I don't know about that one.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Kyrie could sign for the Max.

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Speaker 4: Does not seem likely at all, or he can sign

601
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Speaker 4: his player option this year go into free agency next year,

602
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 4: which is kind of what I think happens. Maybe extends

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Speaker 4: the trade window we saw this year. The Sixers brought

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Speaker 4: Simmons in knowing he probably wasn't going to play for him.

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Speaker 4: The Nets had hardened around for quite some time, knowing

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Speaker 4: he wasn't going to be completely committed to them during

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Speaker 4: the middle of the season, So it keeps the team

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Speaker 4: competitive and it maybe just extends the chance for better

609
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Speaker 4: offers to come forward, just the way happened with Harden

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Speaker 4: and Simmons last year. So I think Kyrie is still

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Speaker 4: going to be a Net at the beginning of training camp,

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Speaker 4: at the beginning of the season next year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 7: It'll be cool. It'll be very cool.

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Speaker 5: What do you think that's Well, if I'm the net site,

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Speaker 5: I can't just sign him to a long term deal,

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Speaker 5: especially because they have Ben simmonsonting there, remember him. I mean,

618
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Speaker 5: he is such a question mark himself. So it's sort

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Speaker 5: of like what Trey brought up with the Clippers. Do

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Speaker 5: you want to have multiple question marks on your roster?

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Speaker 5: I think Kyrie is yeah, kind of screwed because Ben

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Speaker 5: Simmons is also.

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Speaker 6: On the roster.

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Speaker 5: I don't think they go forward with two monster deals.

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Speaker 5: Ben Simmons is making thirty between thirty five and forty

626
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Speaker 5: for the next three seasons. How can you put Kyrie

627
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Speaker 5: beside him? When Kyrie it hasn't been there because of injuries.

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Speaker 5: Obviously COVID is an issue, was an issue, and maybe

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Speaker 5: that's not fair to him. It doesn't necessarily mean that's

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Speaker 5: going to change in the future. But they also were

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Speaker 5: just bounced in the first round. They had great game

632
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 5: won against the Boston Celtics, they lost at the end,

633
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 5: and then the team just shut down.

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00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 6: So how do you go.

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Speaker 5: Forward paying those same guys for multiple years? It does

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Speaker 5: make sense what Sean Marks is saying. I don't know

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Speaker 5: what Kyrie Irving's tweet meant, but he also said at

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Speaker 5: the at the end of the year that you know,

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00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 5: we're going forward as leaders of this team and as

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Speaker 5: leaders of this franchise. Like he put his name in

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Speaker 5: the same breath with Sean Mars and the ownership, and

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00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 5: now he's talked and now he tweets these things like

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Speaker 5: it's h it's unfortunate. I can see Sean Marks said

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Speaker 5: that they wanted as a franchise to go back to

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00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 5: that sort of we're all working together, we're all you know,

646
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,959
Speaker 5: hard at the grind doing that kind of thing. So it's, uh,

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Speaker 5: it's a mess. If Kyrie doesn't want to sign an

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Speaker 5: incentive based deal and he just wants to sign a

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Speaker 5: max deal, I mean, it's an impasse.

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Speaker 6: Maybe maybe that's.

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Speaker 5: An impass that, but that is two different ideologies, two

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Speaker 5: different thoughts. So I can understand the word impast being

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00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 5: used here.

654
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 3: And I think Kyrie is not getting the vibe that

655
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 3: other teams because a lot of them don't have the

656
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 3: space anyway, that that max deal is out there if

657
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 3: he opts out immediately now, so I think he realizes,

658
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: like to get the most money he does have to

659
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 3: be traded and then potentially a team can sign him.

660
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: So you don't think the Knicks would bend over backwards

661
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: to try and create the Caps bats cap space to

662
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: saying Kyrie to a max contract.

663
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 3: Probably not, I don't think so. I don't think I

664
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: think they would, like you.

665
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: Could get there. I know Fred Katz had a great

666
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: breakdown on the I mean, it takes a lot of work.

667
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 3: To get Fourny A and Burts and guys like that.

668
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: And then that means you're including draft picks to get

669
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: off those contracts and opening up the room.

670
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 3: Yet And so if you're the Nets, it's like, maybe

671
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: we can do something with those assets. Potentially there's not

672
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: much out there, but at least you move on there

673
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 3: from Kyrie. But I mean, if you're the Nets, if

674
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 3: you're Sean Marks and Joseph's side there, for sure you're

675
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: saying we'll give you a decent contract, but you have

676
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: to agree to these things. And if Kyrie's like, I'm

677
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: not agreeing to any of those things, then why would

678
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: they sign into anything else? I mean Trey mentioned one

679
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: hundred and three games and then in the playoff last season,

680
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 3: he had a really good game one Cary had thirty

681
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 3: nine points, awesome fourth quarter, nearly won them the game.

682
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: He had forty six points the rest of the series,

683
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 3: and that was even that was like a glorified forty six.

684
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 3: He was not engaged the rest of that series, so

685
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 3: he kind of checked out. And that's the thing with

686
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 3: Kyrie is like when he is on, when he really

687
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: is focused, like he nearly took Brooklyn to win in

688
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: that Game one. He was awesome in the fourth quarter,

689
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 3: but that was really the only time he gave it

690
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: is all in that series.

691
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: So you like the idea of the Nets Sean marks

692
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: the organization sort of digging their feet in a little

693
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: bit and saying, Okay, come on, we're not going to

694
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: be pushovers every time you want something or you want

695
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,239
Speaker 1: to go your way, we have to have a bit

696
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: of a backbone here.

697
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 3: Well, they've got some leverage there, for sure.

698
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what leverage Kyrie really has well, outside

699
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: of I guess Durant. That's an interesting part of this

700
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: whole thing. Yeah, where does Durant? How does Durant feel

701
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: about his buddy Kyrie? The spectators off him, then you're

702
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: in trouble.

703
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean the speculation that what Kevin Durant's

704
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: position is going to be. But we don't know until

705
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 3: we see exactly what they do there. But yeah, the Nets,

706
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 3: I think the Nets are saying, listen, we want you

707
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 3: to be the play we know you can be, but

708
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: you have to do these things. And Kyrie seems to

709
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 3: be like, no, I'm not agreeing to anything. That's what

710
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: it sounds like based on the reporting here.

711
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 5: Maybe Kenny Atkinson denied the Hornets job because the Nets

712
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 5: are going to promise him a rebuilding lineup without Kyrie,

713
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 5: without Kevin Durant even what a rumor, that's not true,

714
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 5: but they were sort of leaning or trying to go

715
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 5: back to that Kenny Atkinson era where everybody's playing for

716
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 5: each other and.

717
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 6: This is Splitsville already. No, he was after that, right, yeah.

718
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we will wait and see it's Kyrie. I mean this,

719
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: The news will change in twenty four hours and there'll

720
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: be another tweet or another leak to whoever from his

721
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: camp and whatever. Yeah, what were the teams he was

722
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: interested in?

723
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 7: The next person?

724
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, which which again is perfect for short

725
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 3: marks because he can't go there just of he will

726
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 3: and get big money. He could if he wanted to

727
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 3: sign some sort.

728
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: Of would you put it past Kyrie VI? This is

729
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 1: the crazy part to like take the most insane discount

730
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: to go play wherever he.

731
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 3: Wanted, so up out of the thirty six or whatever, then.

732
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: Go sign with I don't know, the Knicks or whoever

733
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: he wanted to play with for mid.

734
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think he would

735
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 3: do that. I don't think so.

736
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 1: I don't think so either, But if any NBA player

737
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: would do that, you'd probably say it could be him.

738
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 6: At different than Ricky Williams situation.

739
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: I guess.

740
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 5: I mean Ricky Williams walked away, but you know, almost

741
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 5: walking away, that'd be nuts giving up thirty to forty?

742
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: Who what do you think.

743
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 7: The Brother moves On tweet meant?

744
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: What could that have possibly meant?

745
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 7: He just smiled, smil It's got to.

746
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 5: Be him and Durance know something that the rest of

747
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 5: the world doesn't. It's Brother moves On. He's smarter than

748
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 5: everybody else, right right, right, Like he's got knowledge that

749
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 5: other people don't have.

750
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: He so he is reacting to the sham's new of

751
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: it all, and like the show's news is interesting because

752
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: it was I don't think it was coming from the nets.

753
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: Let's say that said Sean was getting this information from

754
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: Kyrie Camp. No, that's what I mean.

755
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 3: So it's like I think he knew. Okay, it's coming

756
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 3: out now, now it's time to tweak that Gip.

757
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 4: Was on was like he was a bit of a

758
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 4: mercenary character, right, Like he would come in from out

759
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 4: of town to going from from you know, city to city,

760
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 4: performing his jobs.

761
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: Does that mean anything? You think he was the smartest one.

762
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 4: Huh yeah, yeah.

763
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 5: It was the most well read I think of everybody,

764
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 5: library library dresser.

765
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 6: He also had streets, smarts, no doubt, no doubt.

766
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 7: I'm personally Marlowe. I think Marlowe is the smartest because.

767
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: He understood where he was.

768
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 7: Really everybody was trying to get out of the game.

769
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 7: Marlowe lived the game.

770
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Marlowe lived it. Let's say everybody's thoughts on all.

771
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 6: Marlow tried to get everybody else out.

772
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 5: He tried to get the the the old heads out

773
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 5: as well. He tried to take all the game as

774
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 5: the young So yes, indeed, I'm just trying to read it.

775
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 5: Maybe you should have tweeted marlow instead trying to get

776
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 5: rid of Sean Marx.

777
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 6: He wants to be the owner. It feels like he

778
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 6: wants to Joe side. What's up? Give me the ownership?

779
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's put Kyrie for a second. Besides Kyrie,

780
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: here's my next question. What was the juiciest tidbit from

781
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: Sham's inside pass that he posted yesterday which had a

782
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: lot of like rumors about other players and other teams

783
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: interest in those players, but was what jumped out to you, Kyrie.

784
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 5: Obviously a lot of rumors and I feel like they

785
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 5: have a lot of oxygen because of the free agency

786
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 5: cropping and John Hollinger, who you just had on Yeah,

787
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 5: I also fan those flames as well.

788
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 6: It feels like there's a lot of.

789
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 5: Chatter out there that teams want to be able to

790
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 5: dictate their future but with trades, because again, there's just

791
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 5: not great free agents out there, so let's do it now.

792
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 5: And I'm buying a lot of these here in Atlanta.

793
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 5: John Collins has been rumored to be dealt for a

794
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 5: long time. Where that is I don't know, but it

795
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 5: sort of makes sense even with what the direction that

796
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 5: teams are going wings big wings, and John doesn't necessarily

797
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 5: fit that. He's also not a shop blocking center, so

798
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 5: it's an interesting one for sure, and it's staying in Atlanta.

799
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 5: The Minnesota Timberwalls want Clint Cappella apparently, and I know

800
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 5: that's not the juiciest names, but it gets pretty interesting

801
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 5: that you would play Clint Cappella alongside of Karl Anthony

802
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 5: Towns a shooter and Karl Anthony Towns would I guess

803
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 5: if we're doing the All NBA ballots again. He probably

804
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 5: wouldn't be a center anymore if Clint's beside him. And

805
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 5: it makes sense because the Wolves rank dead last in

806
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 5: defensive rebounding last season. Clint Coppella socks him up. That's

807
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 5: that via Dane Moore. And yet sticking with the Biggs

808
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 5: and the rebounding. We talked about the Pacers and Malcolm

809
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 5: Brocken and Myles turn a thousand times, and it feels

810
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 5: like they're going the young route. They just traded for

811
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 5: Tyrese Haliburton. I don't think they want Brogden and Haliburton

812
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 5: long term, and it just feels like that is actually

813
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 5: gonna happen because they have the number six picks so

814
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 5: so much juice. Feels like there's gonna be some trades.

815
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: It does feel like the Pacers are not far away

816
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: from making a move, be it Brogden going out or

817
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: a Turner going out, or both of them going out.

818
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: I know, the Knicks and the Wizards with their picks

819
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: being linked to the Pacers a lot there and the

820
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: idea of maybe getting brogged in bringing in a point guard. Yeah,

821
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: what do you think about the well, what do you

822
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: think about if anything that test sed there or anything

823
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: else from that.

824
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 3: Well, the Hawks last season, remember Travis Slink basically said,

825
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 3: we didn't make any moves and we should have. And

826
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 3: it feels like they're not going to make that mistake

827
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: this season now. In fact, they're going to make basically

828
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: everyone apart from Trey and DeAndre Hunter apparently available. And

829
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 3: the John Collins one is interesting because put me down

830
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 3: as a John Collins stand still, I think he's really good,

831
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 3: especially in the playoffs. I think he's very, very good.

832
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 3: He was great last season in that long run they had.

833
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 3: But I also think that maybe he's not quite the

834
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 3: right fit there now during the regular season because his

835
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 3: numbers have slowly just sort of dropped off. He was

836
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 3: twenty and ten there for a couple of seasons in Atlanta,

837
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: but now he's sort of coming back a little bit.

838
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 3: So I think they're trying to look he's a young guy,

839
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 3: he's under got a pretty good contract, five years, one

840
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty five million. That's that's very movable, and

841
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 3: I think there is going to be a lot of

842
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 3: interest in him because he can shoot the three. He

843
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 3: can be an impactful player without necessarily having to touch

844
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 3: the ball, so maybe new role there for him and compel.

845
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 3: It sounds as well they're trying to find some home

846
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 3: for him, because I think they are going to make

847
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: a run for DeAndre Ayton somehow exactly John Collins. Yeah,

848
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: that's a thing they've got Stain.

849
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: I believe in his news Leather has said James Jones

850
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: has always been enamored with John Collins, and maybe there.

851
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 3: Is so and then yeah, then with some draft picks

852
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 3: or whatever, you can make something like that happen. So

853
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 3: I think the Hawks are almost certainly going to make

854
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: a fairly significant move here over the next few.

855
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: Days and then stayin. And I believe Jeremy Wiu of

856
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: s I said, keep an eye on the Blazers. Maybe

857
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: making a move for a John Collins like with the

858
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: number seven pick also a possibility.

859
00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 7: I guess it sounds like he's gone Karlin.

860
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 4: It sounds like the Hawks are probably gonna have a

861
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 4: completely new front court, which is quite the change up

862
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 4: from the way we've seen in the past, because I mean,

863
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 4: if they trade Capella and John Collins, is it gonna

864
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 4: be like Gallinari and a conglu or is their starters?

865
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 4: I don't know, Maybe should have made the moves last year,

866
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 4: and it'll be interesting to see if Collins ever gets

867
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 4: back to play and like he did in the playoffs,

868
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 4: because that was his contract year. So I don't know

869
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 4: Collins is good, But that's why I think the Hawks

870
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 4: are kind of interested in trading him, because you can upgrade,

871
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 4: no doubt about it. The Hawks have a lot of

872
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 4: good guys. They need a second great guy alongside Trey Young.

873
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 4: The most juiciest tidbit to me, though, is that the

874
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 4: Hornets may be hesitant to match a max offer sheet

875
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 4: for Miles Bridges. Miles Bridges last year twenty points per game,

876
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 4: seven rebounds, four assists, forty nine from the field thirty

877
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 4: three from three. Not as great as his forty percent

878
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 4: in the twenty one season, but he's just twenty four

879
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 4: years old. He's eligible to sign a deal that would pay.

880
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 7: A max of one hundred and thirty one million.

881
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 4: Over four years. Probably not worth that, I don't think

882
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 4: Miles Bridges, but he could be. He's young, and the

883
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 4: main thing for the Hornets is they would have no

884
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 4: way to really replace him, and as he goes further

885
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 4: into his career, we'll see how he goes improvement wise,

886
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 4: but he should still be a player that's kind of

887
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 4: in demand, being a six to seven wing like we

888
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 4: just heard about yea with John's twenty four.

889
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Hornets are I mean, if this

890
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: is true and they don't want to give him this,

891
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: I think it's silly. You're the Hornets, Like they.

892
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 7: Got to tell him.

893
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got to because there are teams that could

894
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 4: be interested. Jake Fisher mentioned the Pistons and the Pacers

895
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 4: both should have cap space. And like he's young, he's

896
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 4: still gonna be on that same timeline for young teams

897
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 4: and he's a really nice fit alongside LaMelo. So maybe

898
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 4: this is just a little bit of a I don't know,

899
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe Miles Bridges agents is trying to drum up

900
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 4: some interest from other teams to try and get that

901
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 4: max deal, because it seems unbelievable to me that the

902
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 4: Hornets would just draft him, develop him, then he gets

903
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 4: paid and you'll let him go, right, and when he

904
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 4: turned into a twenty point per game scorer.

905
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: And does other things what it used to know he's

906
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: a two way player too. I don't think he's a

907
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 1: bit of a John Collins. I think pretty good Okay,

908
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, he's a jail in brown light. Quite late, yeah,

909
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: quite late, but you know, give them more time, maybe

910
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: you can turn into that.

911
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 7: Yeah.

912
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: I think that he's a good player. They should definitely

913
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: keep them. But we'll see anything else from that article

914
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: or any other rumors address here.

915
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 5: No.

916
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 3: I mean they're definitely teams are like got good players

917
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: like this, and they're like, is John Like, would John

918
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,479
Speaker 3: Collins make the Hornets better? Would Mars Bridges make the Hawks? Better?

919
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 8: Like?

920
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 3: Probably not significantly, They're probably a bit of a watch

921
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 3: in that sense, but maybe in a new situation something

922
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 3: like that could help those plays.

923
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: Well.

924
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: Something else happened yesterday. In addition to all the trade

925
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: rumors flying around in the Kyrie News, we had the

926
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors championship parade. I'm not sure how much

927
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: you guys caught of this. Maybe you saw a lot

928
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: of just the social clips going around Twitters and stuff

929
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: like that. Did you have a favorite moment? Though? I

930
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: feel like there was like a million things happening at

931
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: this PERI look like, what hell of a party. I

932
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: gotta say, like, if you're a Warriors fan and you

933
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 1: were there in San Francisco, that looked like a good time,

934
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: great weather. But do you have a favorite mine?

935
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 3: I mean pretty much anything Clay did. And it started

936
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 3: off great for him because he blew off on his

937
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: boat on the way to Is that good?

938
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: He list his championship.

939
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then he said afterwards, I do not condone littering.

940
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 3: I tried to find her, but now she's one with

941
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: the ocean. Unfortunately. That's why I have the captain's hat on,

942
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 3: because he didn't have that.

943
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 6: Extra hat.

944
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: I'm not happy, but just I do not condone littering.

945
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 3: It's okay, we saw it.

946
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 7: Just blow up.

947
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 3: No one say you just like you chucked at it

948
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 3: left up. Clay let out a massive yawn. While Draymond

949
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: was addressing the crowd yesterday, he plowed through a fan.

950
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

951
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 1: He was like, he was like trying to get over

952
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: to the fan, was stumbling and there just yeah, nailed.

953
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 3: He dropped one of his championship rings on this tree

954
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 3: like those were you know, thousands and thousands of dollars less. Yeah,

955
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 3: but my favorite part was when he decided to bust

956
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 3: out a move with the Larry O'Brien trophy. We have

957
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 3: the clip here.

958
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 6: He was he was strong.

959
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 3: And then he's just like, hang on a minute, Yeah,

960
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: why did he do this?

961
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 8: But yelling at him who cares?

962
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, Clay, you never really know what's going on. But man,

963
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 3: he was having the time of his life. He was

964
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 3: also in the hot top. I think back at the

965
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: facility there afterwards, you say, like, man, what a day

966
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 3: we had. So it was great, Clay. I mean, it's

967
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: just that's a TV show right there. Just fully Clay.

968
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 5: Around and he called out his other two of the

969
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 5: Big three, called out Draymond. He said that guy has

970
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 5: the maturity of a third grader. And then he called

971
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 5: out Curry, who cries on a basketball court, killing it,

972
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 5: killing it, Clay.

973
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 6: These guys, it's just they know how to do a parade.

974
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 6: Like you said, a million things happened. It was.

975
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,959
Speaker 5: It was like the most action of a parade. Look,

976
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 5: we enjoyed the Raptors parade watching it from afar. They

977
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 5: know no equivalency here of how fun this was.

978
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: They correct me if I'm wrong. Is I don't remember

979
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 1: other parades doing this or other championship prades. They flipped

980
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: it on its head. They did the like the let's

981
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: talk to the crowd prior to then let's jump in

982
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: the buses and make our way down the street here.

983
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 1: I like that. That's what I think, one hundred times

984
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: better than usually. You see they start to parade, then

985
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: they end with everybody you know on stage and talking

986
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: to the crowd. They flipped it.

987
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 6: Well, maybe that.

988
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 3: Changes because Draymond tweeted something that they said no one

989
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 3: was going to speak, and he was like, maybe I'm

990
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 3: just staying the crib. Yeah, so maybe they decided, well,

991
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 3: let's all right, let's let him speak.

992
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 1: I don't know that's all they did it. I thought

993
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: it was I saw fits he had bars too, and

994
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: when he was introducing all the players. If you guys

995
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: saw that clip and then h Jordan Poole with the

996
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: super soaker really leaning into the pool party vibe. But

997
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: like that, he's like grabbed onto that brand. That's smart.

998
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: This is the very water forward team.

999
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 4: Thompson's boating, splash brothers, pool out there, spray and everybody.

1000
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: Right, But I'm with tasks.

1001
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 4: Like the big thing here is that they took their time,

1002
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 4: like this was a lengthy parade. Think about the Atlanta

1003
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 4: Braids Championship. It took him three hours to go a

1004
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 4: mile and a half.

1005
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: The Warriors Atlanta.

1006
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 4: They went from Atlanta to Cobb County in like thirty minutes.

1007
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: It was crazy.

1008
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, so slow it down and we get a whole

1009
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 4: bunch of great moments like this, Draymond swearing at people,

1010
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 4: step dropping, the mic, hitting the night Night, the announcer

1011
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 4: having no clue what where does night night? Did you

1012
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 4: watch a single game? I don't think so, Tim. And

1013
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 4: we had the guy from Workaholics there just hanging out. Yeah,

1014
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 4: just hanging Blake.

1015
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 3: Someone brought they go to long and put us.

1016
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: There's a funny cliff. I saw some kid proposing to

1017
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: Riley and it's just a really it's shot, really amazing.

1018
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: She sees it, and she seems like she's a little

1019
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: embarrassed but excited and stuff like that. Yeah, there's a

1020
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: lot happening. At some point, Aisha Curry is lifting dead

1021
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: like weights. Did you guys know that?

1022
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a parade.

1023
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1024
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: I guessing it was just something she did at some

1025
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 3: point and that was just.

1026
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: Wearing the same thing.

1027
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 3: But she's been wearing that as well. And she was

1028
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 3: dry humping the Larry Brian sure one of the clubs.

1029
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were. They had a party there yesterday. Uh,

1030
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: it looked like a lot of fun. So yeah, let's

1031
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: hear from you guys. Any other moments we're missing. It

1032
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: feels like we're missing like another one hundred moments. We

1033
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: could have done a whole podcast on just the things

1034
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: that happened.

1035
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 5: Is Steth was lying on the sidewalk doing the night

1036
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 5: night shut from you know, one of the best players

1037
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 5: in the world lying on the sidewalk amidst everybody doing

1038
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 5: the night night like sleeping on his hands.

1039
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: There was one thing stuff was doing yesterday with making

1040
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: me laugh. There's a great photo. He's got cigar hanging

1041
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: out of his mouth, and then he's holding all of

1042
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: his hardware. But he's not holding the Larry O'Brien trophy

1043
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: because I feel like Clay had that for most of

1044
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: the day. But he's got the Finals MVP, he's got

1045
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: the All Star Game m v P Trophy, the the

1046
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: Kobe Trophy, and then he's got the Magic Johnson Western

1047
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: Finals MVP. This guy, I mean, what a team player

1048
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 1: for the n b A. He's leaning into like, Hey,

1049
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: this means something and I'm gonna carry it around. At first,

1050
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell is that? Why does

1051
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: he have two finals m vps and like, oh, yeah,

1052
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 1: that's what that is.

1053
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 3: I like this shirt as well. That was well done.

1054
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 3: The back again with the I V Yeah, the four Wow, clever,

1055
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 3: good stuff.

1056
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 7: Very Do you like Chris Chios's shirt?

1057
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 4: Yes, I'd love to see if Steve Kirk give somebody

1058
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 4: a stunner.

1059
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: Wow? Who would you like to see Steve Kirk give

1060
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: a stutter Aliza? Yeah, someone on his own team. I wasn't.

1061
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't expected. That's not maybe gonna go like Jama

1062
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: Ranch or something. It's on a beef. Yeah, they're they're

1063
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: really beefing hard with the Yeah. I guess they just

1064
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: are like they're picking a young team they've got some

1065
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: history with.

1066
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 4: They're like, we're gonna need to stay motive. Yeah, it's

1067
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 4: very Yeah, so we're picking a competitive team.

1068
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 6: Yep.

1069
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's I guess. Anything to get you fired up.

1070
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 6: Give it to Pop, I mean they're perfect.

1071
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be like stone cold giving it to

1072
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 1: Vince McMahon retires.

1073
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 4: Like the retirement match becomes the Spurs coach, just like.

1074
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 3: He has had some beef with Dan TONI though Steve Curse,

1075
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 3: so maybe that too, because they're more friendly. I think

1076
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 3: Papovitch and ste course, of course, but him and d'An

1077
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 3: tony they didn't get along in Phoenix, and you know

1078
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 3: that's had some rivalries of the Rockets and as well

1079
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 3: in the past.

1080
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: All right, that's a great question for everybody out there.

1081
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: Who would you like to see Stone Cold Steve Kerr

1082
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: give the sun or two? Let us know who and why?

1083
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: All right, let us know the stream team tweeted in

1084
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: your answers if you're listening later at no dunk sink

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Speaker 1: anything else that you want to slip in there from

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Speaker 1: the parade. No, no, okay, great day, great day. Great

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Speaker 1: We'll take our break here and when we come back.

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Speaker 1: Tweeted the night, don't go anywhere, great cans. Let's get

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Speaker 1: to tweet of the night.

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Speaker 6: Tweet of the night. Wow, tw okay, I.

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Speaker 1: Got tweeted the night duties. Now, look, I could have

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Speaker 1: kept this pretty simple if I wanted to, and gone

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Speaker 1: with those Jahn Morant and Draymond Green and Grizzlies versus

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Speaker 1: the Warriors type tweets. Could have done that. I could

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Speaker 1: have went with Kevin Durant clapping back at Charles Barkley,

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00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: that old head who had some things to say about KD.

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Speaker 1: You know they got going on there. Yeah, yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: it just happens every couple weeks.

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Speaker 3: I might have been doing another pod together and trying

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Speaker 3: to build it.

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00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 1: That postly bust. I avoided all that because I saw

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Speaker 1: a tweet come in this morning, actually tweeted the morning.

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00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: It's from one Task Melice, and we got to show

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Speaker 1: this to you here on YouTube for our podcast listeners.

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00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: We are showing you a hat that the MLB has

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Speaker 1: made for the Toronto Blue Jays, and it's disgusting. Because

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Speaker 1: Task Melice tweets. As a dual citizen, I'm in the

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Speaker 1: position to declare this is hideous and uh well, tas,

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Speaker 1: how would you describe this hat for the podcast listeners.

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Speaker 1: It's obviously a Jay's hat with just the the stars

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00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: and stripes incorporated of the American flag.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I saw a tweet from my friend Gourmet Spud. He said,

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Speaker 5: if Hacksaw Jim Duggan was coming out in Toronto and

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Speaker 5: and screaming USA, USA, I think this would be the

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00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 5: hat equipment. You know, there's no way to say it.

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00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 5: It's it's the red and white emblazoned with the stars

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Speaker 5: and stripes.

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Speaker 1: Right, and now they did this for every MLB team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the stars and stripes looks.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so that's.

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Speaker 5: What's going on. But Canada is not America the other

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Speaker 5: do the other twenty nine baseball teams have to wear

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Speaker 5: Canada Day hats?

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Speaker 1: No they don't. I don't believe. I saw some other

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Speaker 1: great tweets about this. Mister Michael Lee, I'm offended for you.

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00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: He responded to you about this hat, and then at

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Speaker 1: Underscore Scott Johnson tweeted, it's mandatory for US dulies like

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00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: you task to wear this from July first to the fourth.

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Speaker 1: I don't make the rules. So Canada Canada Day hits

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00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 1: on the first and July fourth, of course, the American holiday,

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00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: that's the window for this hat.

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Speaker 6: I can't even what I can't.

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00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know how to describe it. It's

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00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 5: like the American flag pooped on Canada.

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00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like bird poop, a bird like nineties bird poop.

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00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got like the almost like a solo jazz vibe.

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00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 4: I actually had the same exact thought. This is a

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00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 4: hat made for tast Mellis as a dual citizen. The

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00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 4: Blue Jays are playing in America on July fourth, so

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00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 4: they're gonna have to probably wear it there playing against

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00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 4: the Oakland A's. I'm a little surprised though. Apparently the

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00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 4: teams get to pick whether it's a red back or

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00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 4: a blue back.

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00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 6: They chose red.

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Speaker 7: They're the Blue Jays.

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Speaker 1: Come on, well, I guess it's close enough to Canada. D.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I heard JD.

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Speaker 5: I heard a scoff, a verbal scoff from you and

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00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 5: that when that image came up verbal, So as a

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00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 5: as a Canadian and only a Canadian, describe your scoff please?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, I mean we've seen this sort of design,

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00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 9: the Canada and the UN the United States flag come together.

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Speaker 9: I mean, you have one hanging in your garage and.

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00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: It's burritos in front of that flag.

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Speaker 9: I don't it's very uh yeah, I'm not a fan.

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00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 9: Maybe it's the red Blue Jays logo, you know what

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Speaker 9: I mean, I think that can help.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that. Yeah, gets washed out at yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, Well do you have any thoughts on this

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00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 1: hot Do you find it hideous?

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Speaker 3: Like I don't find it hideous you're saying, you know,

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Speaker 3: I just think one thing I noticed about when I

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Speaker 3: moved to Canada for the very first time. I think

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00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 3: a lot of people see Canada as just an extension

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Speaker 3: of the United States. I'm just I'm just saying that's

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Speaker 3: the sort of perception right America's hat if Australia, America.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm not trying to offend any I'm

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Speaker 3: just saying, like, like you know, from living in Europe

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Speaker 3: and Australia, like people just say, oh, Canada is just

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Speaker 3: like it's just it's just the fifty first state of America.

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Speaker 3: But when you live there, you realize, oh no, it's

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Speaker 3: not very very, very very independent. And Canadians are very

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Speaker 3: much we're Canadians. You know, we're not Americans per se.

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Speaker 1: You could come into Canada get trapped wind, I can't

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Speaker 1: throw it at the game. You have to go to

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Speaker 1: the hospital and look, you're covering me.

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00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 3: Listen, I got hugged at the airport in Canada coming

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Speaker 3: through customs. Remember that that friend, she she saw us,

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00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 3: She's yeah, we've got a big hug. So you know,

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00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 3: that's that's a Canadian like stereotype. They're so friendly.

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Speaker 1: There's never been hugged entering the United States.

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Speaker 3: I have never felt the need to reach out. Bro,

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00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 3: you'ren to hug it out though, never never, never, But

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Speaker 3: that's all I'll say. So I can understand why, you know,

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Speaker 3: people are like, listen, we're Canadians, American nor you know,

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Speaker 3: United States of America, United States of Americans, not Americans.

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00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 3: We're not like one, if you know what I mean.

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00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 3: We're North Americans, North Americans.

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00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, North America, Mexican, North America.

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00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know. Some people say that's that's where

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Speaker 3: it starts. Test me, No, I'm just saving in trouble,

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00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 3: like some people started sort of there. But I always

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00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 3: people do people do people think people outside of here?

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Speaker 3: I think America is Canada and the United States, and

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Speaker 3: then it's like Latin America starts, whether it starts in Spanish.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, nafta, let's call it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again to John Holder, our American friend, for jumping

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Speaker 1: on the show here. So you talk about the NBA draft.

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Speaker 1: Always great to hear from one of the experts when

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00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: it comes to this stuff. Looking forward to Thursday night,

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Speaker 1: emailing your NBA questions to No Dunks at the Athletic

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Speaker 1: dot Com, tweet them in at No Dunk Thing, get

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Speaker 1: yourself an Athletic subscription now more than we should get

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Speaker 1: one if you really want to like brush up on

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Speaker 1: your NBA draft knowledge with John Hollingder or Samfassini, all

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Speaker 1: of our great reporters uh covering the draft. The Athletic

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Speaker 1: dot Com slize no Dunks so they know that we

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Speaker 1: sent you. I believe there's a great deal still on.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a dollar a month fro up to

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Speaker 1: six months. I think that's still popping. I'm never quite sure.

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Speaker 9: It's always a good deal.

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00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 2: It's always a good even regular price, it's always a

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Speaker 2: good deal.

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Speaker 1: Follow us on the Twitters and the Instagrams and the

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00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: facebooks and the tiktoks at no Dunk Sync. What's gonna

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Speaker 1: happen here for your boys is we are gonna be

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Speaker 1: off tomorrow and Thursday. No podcast unless something big happens,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, We'll be back on tomorrow and.

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00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 7: Then probably probably comes to an end.

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00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: Yes, definitely, Kyrie would be an emergency podcast type material.

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00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: But unless that doesn't happen, we're gonna take tomorrow and

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Speaker 1: Thursday off.

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Speaker 4: JD.

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Speaker 1: You're flying home to the great Country, the fifty first state.

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00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 9: Right across that border, wearing that.

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00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: Ha hug, every customs agent, everybody.

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00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 9: Everybody's getting a hug from me.

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00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: So where you're going, you're heading out east.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to Nova Scotia.

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00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's Rachel's family.

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Speaker 2: Excellent, Okay, exciting, awesome.

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00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, JD's headed there later today. So no show

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00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: probably on Wednesday, Thursday. Can we'll do it an emergency

1239
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: podcast if it calls for it, but we will be back.

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00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: The plan is in the yard at least on Friday

1241
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: to do a little post draft recap, yes, and whatever

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00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: else is happening in the NBA. So make sure you

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Speaker 1: subscribe to noducks here on YouTube or reve you listen

1244
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: to your notdunks of podcasts. All right until probably Friday.

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Speaker 2: Clipper bros, you heard it here first, have a great time,

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00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: turn up, Love you guys, awesome.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 5: And remember NAFTA it actually stands for now A fan

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00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 5: of the athletic.

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00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 6: Or or it's good.

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00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 5: Not a fan of the I couldn't find a word

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Speaker 5: better that starts with a.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't exist now, A fan of the not a

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00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 6: fan of the ass ugly hat.

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Speaker 1: Ass ugly hat just typhonate in the works. All right,

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Speaker 1: Raise the day, people,